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 No.370215[Last 50 Posts]

/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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 No.445923

>>439057
oh peter, please stop defending caleb maupin ajd his stupidity
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 No.445991

>>445923
Why? Honestly since Coffin joined up with Maupin I have grown some respect for the guy. He complements Caleb's uber-tankiedom with some normie vibes.
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 No.446010

>>445899
Maoism level 100
Ally with Japan
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 No.446090

>>445244
I hope youre a paid shill and not this retarded. Nuclear is better than fossil fuels in every way. However bad a nuclear accident is doesn't start to compare to the damage done by pollution from burning fuels and having people breathe it in daily.
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 No.447328

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 No.447504

File: 1629239596352.png (157.21 KB, 600x414, jason-taliban-compassion.png)

Why does Jason Unruhe take PR statements at face value?
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 No.447510

>>447504
I don't even like jason but he's right about that
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 No.447522

>>447504
Taliban doing this would actually be a very good move on their part though
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 No.447525

File: 1629242952840.mp4 (5.74 MB, 640x360, 1629242950345.mp4)

>>447522
The taliban have been killing it with the PR stuff
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 No.447752

File: 1629287446321.jpeg (631.01 KB, 1713x2047, E8pfVUoVgAIH2i1.jpeg)

Founder of Russian feminist punk protest band Pussy Riot reveals new career as dominatrix & joins OnlyFans to sell raunchy snaps
https://www.rt.com/russia/532291-pussy-riot-tolokonnikova-joined-onlyfans/
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 No.447761

>>447752
Meh I’ve seen better.
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 No.447786

>>445899
Are you time travelling from the 1920s?
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 No.447862

>>443726
>>443751
Very few people have no imagination whatsoever, but they do exist. Even fewer have photorealistic imagination, but they also exist, and most of them probably don't make good use of their abilities since capitalism doesn't allocate talent effectively. In terms of visual imagination, most people are probably somewhere in the middle. Probably most of us can't imagine anything super detailed or elaborate, but can still produce something if asked to.

What makes aphantasia look fake, I think, is the framing of it, the way it's discussed in liberal media. There's very little concern over how much of aphantasia is nature and how much is nurture, or more specifically lack of nurture, because mass consumer culture murders imagination, and saying so is a cliché at this point. Capitalist realism is the murder of political imagination, most outstandingly. TINA, TINA, TINA.
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 No.447864

>>447752
I knew it was going to be pussy riot the moment I saw that picture.

uyghur her snatch looks horrible.
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 No.447875

Is bald and bankrupt a tanky or a porky?
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 No.447885

https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/lyndon-larouche-the-assassins-creed
All the questions you had about larouche, you were too afraid to ask
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 No.447898

Can someone explain the Maupin stuff about the 2015 Israel book? Is this marxism or is it larouche stuff, whatever that is
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 No.447899

File: 1629317006345.mp4 (885.66 KB, 320x558, pakistan.mp4)

>all cultures are equal and civilized, screech the maoist third worldists and first-world hippie progressives

https://twitter.com/sunaina_bhola/status/1427856043875332096
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 No.447900

>>447875
He's a massive anticommunist with a weird contradictory soviet obsession
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 No.447916

>>447864
>>447761
tbh honest I didn't posted it so you guys could compare snatches or whatever, but to bring out a sense of what kind of people constituted Les Puss de Rioteux.

Mind you, this individual, Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, has a child. While by no means am I a fan of "Pootinist Russia," I'm not going to cheer for literal PMC-tier individuals, who grew up in a liberal counter culture, started an art/protest group, got jailed, and when came out, started e-whoring themselves.

The fact that Western leftists took these people seriously makes me laugh. They never worked a single day in their lives, and they would rather e-prostitute themselves out than work…
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 No.447920

>>447875
>>447900
Neither, really. He's an ignorant Brit who is fascinated with the relics of a fallen socialist bloc. While his understanding of socialism is idiotic, this doesn't reflect more than the general education that goes on in the UK. However, he has several honest interviews with locals which he doesn't censor, where dozens of local Ukranians, Armenians, Russians, etc. say that the USSR was MUCH, MUCH better.

You shouldn't be angry at the dude, is what I'm saying. You could take his raw footage and portray it as pro- or anti-communist, depending on who he interviews and so on, while his own beliefs reflects the UK's.

I'd say that we should be glad (in our current situation) that a Westerner even bothers to portray the USSR even remotely good through his interviews.
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 No.447929

>>447875
He's neither. Just presenting it as is
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 No.447939

Since many here started asking what Larouche was about after Haz started shilling him, please see the latest TrueAnon podcast:

Episode 176: Lyndon LaRouche: The Assassin's Creed
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/lyndon-larouche-the-assassins-creed
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 No.447948

File: 1629325149738.mp4 (1.01 MB, 1280x720, 1629325116338.mp4)

Is haz just going to do this for 40 years? Is that his life plan? He would be proud of that as a career?
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 No.447950

>>447948
Can someone really do this as a career. Seems like a recipe for disaster.
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 No.447952

>>447948
>Ah yes mr haz we see you are skilled in the art form of "telling people you will fuck them in the ear"
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 No.447953

Nathan Robinson fires Current Affairs staff for trying to organize magazine into a co-op
https://nitter.net/lyta_gold/status/1428011761635143681
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 No.447956

>>447948
THIS IS THE MAN .ORG WORSHIPS!?
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 No.447962

>>447948
Thanks for still watching haz for gems like this
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 No.448004

>>447948
>fake pseudo
apply yourself
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 No.448027

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aaeig4JaVs
Leftism Today went off on MRN and Jason for letting kids take over his channel. Calls everyone weirdos who get laughed at on leftypol
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 No.448046

>>447953
rofl if anyone ever had any doubts about this disingenuous prick, they should be swept away now.
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 No.448056

>>447948
I wonder about that for many e-celebs unless they start doing weekly shows like Ceder and Dore.
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 No.448063

>>445089
Nah. The edgy "you will die in a mine working" larpers suck more as they propagate a dystopian and depressing view of a communist society that anti-communists propagate

Idealistic views on communism is preferred over cynical ones in the current capitalist world.
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 No.448100

>>448027
>shave your beard bro
lmaoooo this was a long time coming
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 No.448142

>>448027
Someone had to say it I really don't know what's up with jason and all these schizos/larpers.
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 No.448195

>OnlyFans says it’s getting out of porn, according to a company statement.
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-19/onlyfans-to-block-sexually-explicit-videos-starting-in-october
The company says it will prohibit users from posting “sexually explicit conduct,” starting in October.

OnlyFans has stated that changes are needed to the company’s policies due to mounting pressure from banking partners and payment providers.

“Long-term sustainability of our platform, and to continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines,” the company said.

OnlyFans has more than 130 million users, and handled more than $2 billion worth of sales, of which the company keeps 20%.
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 No.448196

>>448027
He should give his take on the split
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 No.448197

>>448195
Hahahahahahaha i can't wait to see all the seething libshit sluts crying cause they have to get a real job now. The tears are gonna be unreal.
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 No.448199

>>448195
This is good, but there will be a replacement. I don't believe they're that retarded. Eitherway, I don't care
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 No.448203

>>448027
He's right. Its not even content, its just fucking 15 year old larpers with anarcuck aesthetics that are faggots who have nothing of importance to say. All those retarded small ML channels run by underage irrelevant autists should be stomped out of existence
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 No.448204

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USSR Collapse: A Crash Course | RT Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EjWcpOIZa4
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 No.448207

>>448204
Why did noone shoot gorbachev yet?
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 No.448229

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 No.448237

>>448207
Why bother? His failure remains on his conscious, that's why he tries justifying his resignation, He knows it's his fault. He knows what he did, he knows the pain and suffering he caused, he knows that despite his riches his homeland views him as a traitor and a thief.
What greater form of torment is there? Surrounded by everything the people want, wealth, privilege, freedom– things he promised to the people of the Soviet Union yet they suffer.
What humiliation!
Ultimately, there is no greater pain than watching the suffering you caused until you die, covered by the meaningless things you thought you wanted, all while knowing you can't raise a finger.
He deserves this, the coward that he is. This is worse than any bullet to the head.
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 No.448331

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File: 1629418294644-1.png (283.61 KB, 600x333, TuckerCarlsonOnlyFans.png)

>>448197
>A real job…
Like selling empty titillation for profit?
Rightists shitting on entrepreneurs is the highest state of cringe.

The lack of self awareness is shocking.
>https://www.gawker.com/fox-news-defends-diverse-anchorwomen-brags-about-12-n-1604744220

Tucker crying that he isn't sexy enough; needs more views.
>https://www.towleroad.com/2020/06/with-his-fox-news-show-bleeding-advertisers-tucker-carlson-attacks-porn-sites-like-onlyfans-watch/
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 No.448334

>>448331
PMCs are pissed at Work from Home employees. WFHs are getting more done jerking off instead of being caught on office camera going to pee more than once a day.
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 No.448369

File: 1629425415467.jpg (94.91 KB, 1080x1062, 1629425405031.jpg)

lol
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 No.448376

>>448237
Why did he do it
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 No.448380

File: 1629428530468.mp4 (3.22 MB, 1280x720, 1629428467710.mp4)

Zucc unveiled his new metaverse today. It doesn't look any different than VRchat
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 No.448382

File: 1629428817473.png (541.67 KB, 1912x962, ClipboardImage.png)

THE TESLA BOT SHIT IS FREAKING OUT

THEY'RE NOT FUCKING NEW SMARTPHONES WHY THE FUCK DOES IT SEEM SO NORMALISED

I AM SO FUCKING SCARED
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 No.448414

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File: 1629442658816-1.jpg (78.72 KB, 800x788, asimo and his ball.jpg)

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>>448382
Nobody is freaking out because it's going to be a toy, making a good humanoid bot is much harder than a self-driving car (nobody has entirely cracked that)

The only robots in this category that we have seen that are any good are the Japanese ones and the one from Boston Dynamic. And those cost insane sums and only exist in small quantities. They do show off some advanced moves in presentations but those are choreographed by a horde of programmers. It takes a long time to do that, and that's why you see a presentation video of these about once or twice a year.

Human workers are "universal robots", because they have the ability to do any kind of work as well as reproducing new humans. So unless the teslabot also can produce new teslabots, they are just machine capital, not labor power. It will likely increase the organic composition of capital and lower the profit rate.

If we look at the development speed of humanoid robots it's really slow, 20 years ago Asimo garnered a lot of fame for walking up a few stairs and running after a ball. Elon didn't even demonstrate something like that he showed us a person dancing in a robot costume, a bit like scifi movies from the 60s.

For the economic prospects it be like this: Capitalists may dream about replacing workers with machines because that would give them more leverage in the class struggle. However the economic realities of capitalism are such that they can only build machines that do productivity enhancements for labor, because the economic purpose of the capitalist is to exploit labor.

In reality the historic effect of advanced computers is to replace the capitalists, they are by far the most expensive part of the system and what they do is far easier to automate. To replace all workers you have to replicate all human labor activities including building new machines. To replace capitalists, you only need to program a computer algorithm that goes through a table that contains all the inputs and outputs of production and calculate the respective material and labor costs of each production-step. It's not hard to do compared to the much harder processes of automating all human labor activities, and who ever does it first will have explosive economic growth because they no longer have to pay for profits.
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 No.448426

So some people are saying that the Nathan Robinson wasn't unionization but anarcho-syndicalism

what's that?
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 No.448436

>>448382
It's more Musk vaporware, no reason to be scared.
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 No.448437

File: 1629458167436.mp4 (2.63 MB, 1280x720, mi_fnt9fTSoacw8T.mp4)

Australian TV channel ABC has accidentally shown its viewers footage from a Satanic ritual during the middle of a routine newscast. The blunder was linked online to a current court case about teaching Satanism in schools.
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 No.448438

>>448380
this will revolutionize the world, i tell ya
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 No.448461

Lmao what the fuck is this, 3/4 of these weren't even memes, how does this guy make 60k a year off this?
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 No.448464

>>448382
Its 100% fake scam to try and pump the stock more. This same pattern has happened so many times by now. Its piggybacking off actual robotic work done by Boston dynamics to trick people into thinking it might be feasible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4DML7FIWk
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 No.448467

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>>448380
Rule of normalfag technology: If it's off the scale soytarded, it will be instantly and wildly successful.
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 No.448524

>>448382
Robot hyperloop
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 No.448572

David Doel Claims Jimmy Dore Is "Moving To The Right"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEszl97JGUk
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 No.448575

File: 1629496090320.png (1.31 MB, 1500x1884, dciqu4p-1dac7be1-9812-4f94….png)

>>448382
The design is stupid. They couldn't decide what to pretend it can do, so its some ugly androgynous thing.

Give us haydee. Technologically feasible with a clear purpose.
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 No.448593

File: 1629496877042.jpg (715.79 KB, 1080x2280, Screenshot_20210820-175954.jpg)

So much wrong here
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 No.448597

>>448376
Cowardice, he said he had to resign to avoid civil war, but this suffering is worse than civil war could've caused.
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 No.448747

YouTube Suppresses Jimmy Dore's Criticism Of AOC
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 No.448749

>>448593
they didn't even bother to align the noses
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 No.448763

>>448749
he's ukrainian, what did you expect?
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 No.448765

>>448763
proper nose aligment?

fucking pol-tier antisemites can do it, how can't these people?
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 No.448766

Uh guys? What the fuck is this saying? Is Haz trying to underhandedly attacking Marxist theory or am I misunderstanding him?
https://youtu.be/VRWSRdp0G0c?t=2069
(can't embed for some reason)
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 No.448767

>>448765
I doubt he made it, has to be from pol
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 No.448878

Why did most online leftists support the canjuck church burning?
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 No.448885

>>448766
This is old as fuck
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 No.448889

>>448747
fuck the Demonrats but holy shit that is straight up just a rightoid PragerU tier thumbnail. This dude's audience is gonna be 90% rightoids by the time midterms roll around
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 No.448891

>>448889
It’s one of the weirdest things. It’s fine if you wanna build a broad populist movement but when a lot of that crowd outright reject your radical leftism you end up with a shaker foundation. Like look at the video Dore did about CRT which got ratio’d. Dore finally does a theory video and it gets ratio’d because his audience or at least a large part of it doesn’t care about theory or a critique of theory and instead only cares about Dore “owning the Democrats” and “owning the libs”.
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 No.448892

>>448889
I dunno if Jimmy got a new intern from Gawker or what but his videos have had straight up clickbait images for the last couple months now.
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 No.448894

>>448889

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMrAnh21a2A&t=600s

>they don't need medicare for all right and you know bombing people middle east that's not their problem it's just it's just not their problem as long as they can you know go to lattes and hang out on the set of some big show you know hollywood corporate media program that's they're making money for billionaires and they can pat themselves on their back to say that they're not as bad as trump then they're fine they don't they don't care about poor people they don't care about the homeless people in their own city


>they don't care about the homeless people in their own city graham they don't care don't give a and we have a super majority democrat in california legislature we have a democratic governor and this car this state is just the biggest shithole as any other if not bigger


>we have democratic mayor of los angeles we have a democratic city council we got one nythia ramen was like one lefty socialist who made her way in there and and but everybody else in the la city council all gets money from the big developers which is why you can't drive i defy you to drive more than a half a mile in los angeles without seeing a tent city and across the street will be some luxury high rise


>we're just like brazil now yes yes with the favelas i've been to brazil there's the favelas the shanty towns that are dangerous and fire traps and then next to a handful of rich people by the beach it's it's it's that's what brazil that's that's what's in america that's what we've got that's what we're that's what's happening that's what you get when you vote democrat and people don't realize that but that's what you get


sounds like hes just going HAM
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 No.448895

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>>448892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2xHZPH5Sng

Clickbait is Unreasonably Effective - Veritasium
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 No.448896

File: 1629576287820.png (559.61 KB, 892x760, clown.png)

LIVE: Nathan J. Robinson Pulls A Cenk Uygur, Fires Current Affairs Staff For Organizing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ARqz_r12y0

Socialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7bmd7/socialist-publication-current-affairs-fires-staff-for-doing-socialism
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 No.448909

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>>448896
Not that suprising from the magazine that put this out
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 No.448913

>>448909
damn where's my socialist man-servant
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 No.448917

>>448909
Reminder that aristocratic communism is a valid pipeline because communism is simply the most efficient way of producing of allocating goods and services.

There is no dialectical contradiction in the idea of the bourgeoisie abolishing class structure and eliminating the, now useless, proletariats.
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 No.448943

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‘Teaching in the middle of a pandemic is HARD’: Jamaican teachers’ conference on Zoom turns into 18+ live sex broadcast
https://www.rt.com/news/532716-jamaica-teacher-zoom-sex/

Colombian schoolteacher apologizes for kissing wife’s breast during Zoom physics lesson (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/news/522363-colombia-teacher-zoom-fail/

Argentinian MP resigns after sucking on woman's breasts during online congressional session
https://www.rt.com/news/501701-argentinian-mp-camera-breast-incident/
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 No.448991

>>448917
I hate u
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 No.449021

>>448913
hey queen
i'm always here
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 No.449022

>>448467
nothing you said was english or human
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 No.449033

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 No.449038

File: 1629625552085.jpg (234.21 KB, 1200x840, power to the workers.jpg)

>>449033
this is the most artificial, of a person getting payed to read from a teleprompter so far
porky is getting desperate if they pay people to play as apolitical.
that means the class struggle is heating up.
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 No.449044

>>449033
>left griller
God, what a faggot
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 No.449045

I love Jimmy Dore I don't care what anyone says
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 No.449047

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>>448909
That is so fucking embarrassing, Jesus Christ. Also, wasn't Nathan J Robinson the one who accused Lenin of killing a gorrillion sex workers, and just overall being anti-Marxist?
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 No.449048

File: 1629643704975.jpg (Spoiler Image, 739.96 KB, 1080x2400, vaush.jpg)

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 No.449055

>>449048
vaush wishes he was that thin
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 No.449070

thought about posting this in the ongoing hegel thread but the conversation there is more versus cockshott.

I like this video as an introduction to Hegel generally with his ideas of negativity, knowledge, and the dialectic. But there are some issues with his reading of totality and recognition. Zizek's talks on the liberal readings of hegel by people like Pippin are good at engaging with this. That this idea of recognition in practice means building a statue to hitler in jerusalem. Since without the lower moment of the holocaust, the higher stage of israel wouldn't be possible.

Or a closer to home example is the way people now are fighting about Critical Race Theory, and what exactly is the role of racism in the american project, in what way is it present, economically or is america inherently racist? etc.. And the greater point is that it's always developing with your engagement with it. You never get to the point of escaping responsibility for the concepts by grounding it on a final totality.

I also agree with it on a personal level. Although some people do take that view of a trauma defining them or being a necessary part of something great they achieved later. But i don't think its a desirable position or holds up logically. Nothing happens for a reason.

https://youtu.be/iFfOByBigUQ Here's zizek's talk i'm referencing, which might work as a supplement to the video by Carefree Wandering.
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 No.449102

>>448889
>that is straight up just a rightoid PragerU tier thumbnail
Critizing democrats or AOC is not rightoid. Nobody likes the democrats. And youtube is protecting them. No lies in it.

>>448891
What exactly do you expect? That the video be all upvotes from people that already agree with what he says? The point of being a political commentator should be reaching out to people who aren't already on your side. Not preaching to the choir.
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 No.449154

>>449102
>What exactly do you expect? That the video be all upvotes from people that already agree with what he says? The point of being a political commentator should be reaching out to people who aren't already on your side. Not preaching to the choir.

I agree, Dore being able to attract such an ideologically diverse, and even contradictory audience, should be seen as a fantastic thing. Americans have been intellectually starved and propagandized for decades and if one uneducated midwit pothead comedian can singlehandedly chip away at that for god knows how many people, we should be rejoicing in the fact that maybe americans have not fully succumbed to the abyss.
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 No.449156

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>>448896
I can't believe this dude turned out to be a class enemy
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 No.449161

This is not fake! If only you knew how bad things really are…
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 No.449188

>>449161
This frightens you because you take movies too seriously. Humanoid robots are less effective as weapons of war than non-humanoid robots.
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 No.449196

>>448896
>Socialist Publication Current Affairs Fires Staff for Doing Socialism
Libs always ready to slander
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 No.449199

>>449197
How is it not the usual liberal slander of muh all socialists are hypocrites who use iphones and drink starbucks shit?
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 No.449201

>>449199
i feel as though using iphones is somehow less of an issue than preventing workers from organizing IDK
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 No.449207

>>449156
All champagne socialists will be brutally executed. This is not my opinion but the feelings of many.
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 No.449211

>>449201
who's talking about nathan dweeb

i'm talking about the socialism slander that they're ready to throw down always
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 No.449279

Canadian women face sexual abuse & violence from ‘trans’ biological males in prison, former inmate tells RT
https://www.rt.com/news/532803-transgender-abuse-women-canadian-prisons/
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 No.449368

Can anyone actually define “Nazbol”? Facebook and Twitter somehow believe it’s related to class-reductionism which makes no sense because the National Bolshevik movement is “nationalist”. Red-brown appears to be thrown around along witth it and appears to be identical in definition regarding Twitter and Facebook users. It appears to resemble leftists who actually focus on economics.
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 No.449379

>>449368
anyone i don't like
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 No.449386

>>449368
The funny thing is that radlibs like Vaush who throw Nazbol around are more nationalistic than those who they call Nazbols. Their chauvinism makes them seem more nationalist especially with their world police mindset so yeah. I think one of the biggest fault of leftists is their inability to say anything other than abstract jargon crap, whenever I hear Hasan say shit like Dengism I cringe because he only knows it because he hears other leftists use the term and maybe he looked up the Wikipedia on it. In order to combat abstract concepts is to speak of concrete things, you’ll notice that the moment that the radlib starts speaking in abstract terms you’ll be more convincing than they.
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 No.449387

>>449279
If you want to know how cultural power works, just look at what transgression of the official rules are punished and which are ignored.

>>449368
>Can anyone actually define “Nazbol”
It used to be a meme party that actually existed in Russia for a few years, now it's just a slur that means nothing
>Facebook and Twitter somehow believe it’s related to class-reductionism
"class-reductionism" the neoliberal word for Marxism that you shouldn't use because it's an expression of political persecution of leftists
I would seriously doubt that the original Nazbol party was motivated by Marxism.
>Red-brown
that's just liberal horseshoe theory condense into a buzzword
>leftists who actually focus on economics.
it's sad that this has to be specified.
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 No.449390

>>449387
It’s not even class reductionism because Marxism is not just reducible to that, but the fact of something simple in Marxism, that is that the ruling class of a given epoch put forward ideas they seem like ruling ideas to everyone, which can be empirically observed. When the communist countries collapsed, something like the Nazbols was inevitable. The way people live: how they make a living, collapsed almost overnight and people’s security was for once after 70 years not secure. Nazbols were nothing but a particular faction expressing itself after the collapse of the Soviet Union, of a united national identity. The radlibs have turned the collapse of the Soviet Union into an abstract collapse of “authoritarianism”. They have turned all leftism into abstract “ideas” and nothing concrete. We’re literslly starting from scratch where we have to bring materialism back as the main way of understanding history.
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 No.449391

>>449386
Thats a great point. Nazbol is a western chauvinist slur
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 No.449392

>>449368
>Can anyone actually define “Nazbol”?
From what I've seen, it means any leftist whose revolutionary views make for a liability in the new liberal-illiberal dichotomy being asserted to make sense of the crisis in globalization, because those revolutionary views make you have a different idea of what is powerful and dispossessed, what is progressive and what is reactionary.
>Facebook and Twitter somehow believe it’s related to class-reductionism which makes no sense because the National Bolshevik movement is “nationalist”.
They think class is a one factor analysis and using it entails rendering reactionaries as part of a revolutionary subject, incorrectly saying liberalism is no longer progressive, and reading the reckoning for the nation-state as a crisis in capitalism caused by its contradictions
>Red-brown appears to be thrown around along witth it and appears to be identical in definition regarding Twitter and Facebook users. It appears to resemble leftists who actually focus on economics
Red-brown just means that unless you accept the above mentioned dichotomy as the prime contradiction in history, not something like imperialism, then what you are actually doing is giving up revolutionary views just to oppose liberalism.
tl;dr there is a number of liberals and allied leftists whose critiques are no higher than a critique of the nation-state, and part of coping with this is accusing everyone else of being in bed with the nation-state and/or just opposed to liberalism
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 No.449400

>>449207
>you support socialism yet suit wine house iphone shoes refrigerator? curious!
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 No.449402

>>449390
>It’s not even class reductionism
Stop using the neoliberal hate label for marxism as if it was a valid concept.
The new concept that we need is about how class consciousness is suppressed.
Maybe we could call that class suppressive.
>because Marxism is not just reducible to that
Marxism is about centering class analysis as the foundation for all political thought, because it is a political philosophy to bring about a classless society. This isn't a form of reduction, it's about revealing how class relations in society affect virtually everything. If you do a class analysis you will know more about a topic, and you will have a more correct understanding. The purpose of Marxism is to find out the class character of societal motions, you can't put up artificial limitations to class analysis if you want to do Marxism. You are still trying to do gate keeping, as long as you hold on to the concept of class redudeling, it means you still want to have some things be exempt from class analysis, you have to do self criticism to find out why that is.
>When the communist countries collapsed, something like the Nazbols was inevitable.
No the Nazbol party was never a big deal, it's barely even a footnote of history, stop making it into a symbolic thing.
>The radlibs have turned the collapse of the Soviet Union into an abstract collapse of “authoritarianism”
You have to forget about the platonic forms of radlib politics, it leads to nothing but confusions. The neoliberal system is very forcefully trying to insert it self into the personal lives of people and start corporate down micromanaging/interfering of/with the daily lives of people to a degree that is beyond the wildest imagination of the most zealous KGB agent. The word authoritarianism has no meaning anymore, at the height of the cold war the Stasi surveilled 2% of the population of east Germany, by today's standards that makes the Stasi a champion of privacy because they didn't surveil the other 98%
>They have turned all leftism into abstract “ideas” and nothing concrete.
I think we have to let go of the notion that these people have anything to do with leftism, they are just doing a different kind of politics, they are self centered, self serving people who look to get a comfy place in the current order for them self by making tiny adjustments to the capitalist super structure.
>We’re literslly starting from scratch where we have to bring materialism back as the main way of understanding history.
You have no idea how down to basics we have to go, we are up against people who deny that there is such a thing as objective reality.
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 No.449405

Why are people defending hassan's million dollar mansion? I get that socialists focus on systems and not consumer choices, but there has to be a limit. Buying a mansion from being a twitch streamer is not working class
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 No.449413

>>449405
>you support socialism yet suit wine house iphone shoes refrigerator? curious!

Further, your class is not determined by your individual wealth. "I hate rich people" is not a valid basis for being a socialist.
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 No.449414

>>449405
It is not working class because he employs people to manage his social networks.
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 No.449415

>>449414
More importantly, if he decided to invest his revenue from twitch into stocks and crypto, then no doubt he is bourgeois, as he hired people to labour for him
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 No.449418

>>449413
>"I hate rich people" is not a valid basis for being a socialist.
why not? arrogant for you to think it's not a basis.
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 No.449419

File: 1629858490675.jpg (113.23 KB, 640x769, 1629858428169.jpg)

>>449413
>"I hate rich people" is not a valid basis for being a socialist.
Yes it is. You think most revolutionaries were intellectuals?
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 No.449420

>>449419
Can you tell me where Lenin wrote this and whom he said to hate in particular?
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 No.449421

>>449405
because he is my favorite streamer and he is my friend :)
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 No.449422

>>449413
>"I hate rich people" is not a valid basis for being a socialist.
Rich suburbanite detected. Are you even in a real worker's party? lmao
Tell me, when was the last time you even spoke to a blue collar worker about theory?
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 No.449427

Anyone can give me updates on anything that happened to Chris after his arraignment in court?
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 No.449428

>>449427
>>>/kiwifarms/
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 No.449446

>>449413
>"I hate rich people" is not a valid basis for being a socialist.
Don't be too pedantic about what motivations people have, this is a minor theoretical point, most rich people are in fact capitalists, the amount of properly rich proletarians is extremely tiny.
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 No.449452

>>449405
It is a fight in not letting conservatives and anti-communists label the movement of progressing to socialism and communism as just being "hippies, who live in mud huts and eat berries" as they have for decades and still continue to do so.

Any good communist should participate in the discourse not to defend hasan but to hammer down the idealist and infantile beliefs people have about communism being some peace, love, charity, humility religion

Dogmatic fools who have read no theory and anti-communists have many things in common as such is displayed in this discourse where they embarrass themselves and will help feed into the enemies attacks on communists later on.

Communism and Capitalism are economic systems. That is all it is.
Neither of them are your mother's love or the creation of satan
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 No.449476

>>449422
Please shut the fuck up you absolute retard no one has to pass your “real worker” test you fucking loser
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 No.449479

>>449476
>t. suburbanite working for his dad's company
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 No.449482

>>449479
Wrong and irrelevant you fucking retard
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 No.449487

File: 1629902719914.jpg (135.93 KB, 1400x1050, n4scgse21iuz.0.jpg)

Nirvana Sued by Baby From Nevermind Album Artwork for Child Pornography
https://pitchfork.com/news/nirvana-sued-by-baby-from-nevermind-album-artwork-for-child-pornography/
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 No.449494

>>449452
Well communism did have an origin in asceticism so.
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 No.449503

>>449476
>Please shut the fuck up you absolute retard no one has to pass your “real worker” test unless you're white you fucking workerist loser
Fixed, now this is western left position
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 No.449526

File: 1629917238762.mp4 (998.6 KB, 1280x720, 1629917203293.mp4)

Haz on lacan
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 No.449570

>>449503
Not my position though so you can also shut the fuck up and stop being retarded
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 No.449579

>>449487
i thought he liked nirvana
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 No.449616

>>442410
He called out on the p*dos in the website. Obviously Jannies get triggered because of it.
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 No.449679

https://old.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_call_upon_reddit_to_take_action_against_the/


there's gonna be some kind of reddit strike with big subreddits participating over reddit not dealing with vax misinformation

i think it's a good idea
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 No.449680

>>449494
i want to know more about this origin
not that i support such a foolish practice even if it is the very origins but i want to learn more

i thought the origin of communism was the primal state of man as he was building civlization
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 No.449682

>>449679
It is and it isn't. The overall problem is more all-encompassing, involving the society of the US as it is, its ideologies, its motivations, and so on. Naturally, if this would have effect, retarded anti-vaxers would take it as a "proof" of them being right (cuz muh "oppresshun")…
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 No.449684

>>449680
nta, but the line that "communism is rooted in asceticism" is a gross misrepresentation of actual historical processes, typically of the USSR and PRC, taking these regimes' actual material realities and the ruling communist party's justified responses as somehow "this was always the case."

TL;DR: where was the German communist revolution? It failed? Oh, wait! Communist rev. succeeded in China & Russia – literal third world hellholes – and they did severe economic adjustments that can be idiotically understood as "asceticism," and this didn't come from their actual material realities, but from their WRONGHEADEDNESS!!!

I AM VERY CLEVER!!!!!!!!!!

EASTERN COMMUNISM IS ASCETIC!!!!!!
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 No.449697

>>449680
The guy who responded to your post is a retard don’t read such trash. Anyways communist asceticism was only a very early stage of communism that appeared around the mid 18h century. They talked about creating a common community of property or simply the abolition of private property, but it’s basis and premise was a sort of Christian asceticism as a response. Read the Code of Nature and you’ll get the idea of what they believed. Now while it wasn’t about everyone being poor it still had some of the staples of communism like working in kind and there being a common stock or store for the whole community with limits in how much individuals can accumulate or take. Obviously communism didn’t stay this way, because communism isn’t one thing, it’s a movement that adapts to changing conditions. Also primitive “communist” societies weren’t communist per se but only communist in how tribes understand “property”. The truth of the nature of communism is that it’s only a response to the social question that was engendered by capitalism.
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 No.449698

>>449697
>around the mid 18h century. They talked about creating a common community of property or simply the abolition of private property, but it’s basis and premise was a sort of Christian asceticism
source?

>Code of Nature

link? pdf?
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 No.449802

File: 1629993679533.mp4 (5.16 MB, 1280x720, Muttwave.mp4)

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File: 1629996125478.png (85.78 KB, 689x1000, kawaiijaks.png)

>>449802
Nice. Have a kawaiijak
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 No.449827

File: 1630006225854.jpg (34.1 KB, 324x499, American-Marxism.jpg)

American Marxism by Mark Levin is the #1 seller in America on Amazon books this week. Exponentially more sales and ratings than all of Richard Wolff's, Yanis Varoufakis' and Bernie Sanders' books on Amazon combined.

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1430151937601773571
https://www.amazon.com/American-Marxism-Mark-R-Levin/dp/150113597X
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=D54E75EF42B19F4A1227E6DE56308D11
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 No.449828

>>449827
This guy is an amazing grifter who can't even name the "Franklin School" right in his own red scare book.
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 No.449837

File: 1630007853829-0.jpg (117 KB, 1080x1175, 1629504283308-1.jpg)

File: 1630007853829-1.mp4 (1.97 MB, 1280x720, 1629504283308-0.mp4)

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 No.449844

File: 1630008957817.mp4 (2.9 MB, 640x480, 9convert.com - The Indian ….mp4)

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File: 1630011223977.png (878.43 KB, 1227x824, 1.png)

youtube added SuPeR tHaNkS
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 No.449882

Infrared live stream for the last hour is basically Haz crying about one of his tweets not getting 1k likes and manipulating his watchers with insinuating that Infrared will end forever if they don't like his tweet and the radlibs will win.
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 No.449883

>>449882
Thank you based Jane Goodall
I've been putting off the lerouche pdfs, but if its the end then I guess I better start
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 No.449947

>>44969
>>449684

Alright thanks
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 No.450134

File: 1630207901137.png (916.31 KB, 1269x744, 1.png)

We've gone full circle. Haz is using his live feed to try to pick up girls on the streets on a Sunday night.
>h-hello lady, i am live with political show, want to give an "interview?"
<no thx

He keeps checking and fixing his hair and beard in the camera. He even brought his cousin (who isn't even a socialist) as a wingman to help him out.
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 No.450135

>>450134
Based mongol warrior just trying to get his dick wet, nothing wrong with that.
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 No.450136

>>450134
how many times will he get rejected before he does a squat?
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 No.450137

File: 1630208541885.png (747.96 KB, 1328x745, 1.png)

>goes into dance hall
>looks around
>sits in the corner
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 No.450138

File: 1630208611707.png (104.08 KB, 377x317, 1.png)

>>450137
bwahahahha
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 No.450139

File: 1630208688277.jpg (51.8 KB, 1004x567, hazcel.JPG)

>>450137
He's asking viewers to rate his "drip". God, I just wish he would go home
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 No.450140

File: 1630209046835.webm (580.86 KB, 1326x754, hazdance.webm)

>pay $20 to get into club
>go into cuck corner
>set up camera
>dance for your viewers
>go home
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 No.450142

>>449570
So, are you in a party or not? lmao
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 No.450146

3 million dollars
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 No.450152

>>450140
Confirmed incel.
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 No.450189

>>450140
wow I hope JonZerka doesn't see this
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 No.450190

>>449579
Seems just a cash grab by appealing to burger puritanism.
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 No.450191

File: 1630229186856.jpg (134.59 KB, 1330x748, 20180127_BKP506.jpg)

>>449697
Reminds me of the society shown and critiqued in the first part of le guins The Disposessed.
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 No.450205

File: 1630236325303.png (701.05 KB, 617x563, TNdt1khloCXCzIBjkPJrG2Vt5y….png)

>Anti-Idpol
>His analysis based on Materialism and the works of Marx and Fisher
>Pretty much goes into depth in all his videos how pretty much all social culture war fads of the left and right, Feminists and Trads etc are just manipulation and deflection by the Capitalist class and their mouthpieces in the media
>Get cancelled for saying that Jan 6th was just Larping and not an actual coup.
>Pretty much Leftypol/Stupidpol the Youtuber, but is despised by almost everyone in the Lefty/Stupid sphere.

Honestly why? Coffin is by far the best Leftist youtuber out there by a mile and I don't think has ever really said anything that most here would disagree with. I understand why Radlibs hate him (pic related from Reddit) but I don't get why so many here and on Stupidpol do. (Also his wife is 9/10 mommy milkie)
Angiespeaks as well. Same shit, massively Leftypol and Materialist based analysis, yet everyone shits on her for points that are made here all the time.
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 No.450211

>>450205

Hakim is better.
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 No.450212

File: 1630240237971.jpg (72.58 KB, 468x512, unnamed.jpg)

>>450205
>Honestly why? Coffin is by far the best Leftist youtuber out there by a mile
He's a lulzcow youtuber.
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 No.450229

>>450205
>Angiespeaks
oh you're right she's based
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 No.450230

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 No.450245

>>450230
Amazing analysis of the breadtube 'left'. I'd include leftypol.org in the milieu she is criticizing where social validation is far more valued than empiricism and principled discourse.
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 No.450256

>>450245

I keep seeing criticism of leftypol but what's actually wrong with it? Who exactly are they trying to appease for "social validation"?
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 No.450325

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erPq4ydMYAg
Haz hired a new editor. Sage gets a namedrop
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 No.450440

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 No.450444

>>450440
Im reading it and all I see are idiot redditors typing office quotes at eachother
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 No.450473

File: 1630365463438.jpg (49.57 KB, 854x510, kms865do1fk71.jpg)

Jerma is the Michaelangelo of our time
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 No.450475

>>450473
jerma, vinny, and joel are the Monster Three of streaming and are mega based
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 No.450571

>>450570
Fucking lmao, I always knew he was a fucking grifter

Literally no shame in accepting the fact that you are now bourgeois, fucking lifestylists.
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 No.450572

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File: 1630526875548.jpg (14.47 KB, 245x280, chortling Michael from Bur….jpg)

>>450570
>makes money off my surplus labor value
He's an Amazon employee?
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 No.450587

>>450586
Twitch streamers think they're the same as warehouse workers
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 No.450592

Arcadum, DND streamer, got #metoo'd by all the female players/streamers who was DM'd by him
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 No.450613

>>450587
Whats the difference? Does Amazon give partnered streamers control over AWS? Do they get voting shares?
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 No.450615

>>450570
Surplus value? I’m pretty sure this dumbass owns the majority of what he makes. Hasan thinks he’s entitled to a piece of the shares of Amazon stock because he does a few ads for them. This guy can not convince anyone he’s NOT petty bourgeois in his thought process. Even if ducking Amazon were a cooperative and they paid a retard like Hasan to advertise for them this fucker would say some bullshit like he’s “being exploited because muh surplus value”. He’s not an employee, he’s just a contracted celebrity that does commercials.
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 No.450616

>>450570
Isn't this guy Chunk Ogre's son? Why is leftypol so fixated on such an easy target?
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 No.450621

>>450615
> thinks he’s entitled to a piece of the shares
Has he said that?
>petty bourgeois in his thought process
Is petty bourgeois defined by someones ideology or their relation to means of production?
>contracted
Are contractors workers or bourgeoisie? What about uber drivers or coders and online work contractors?
>celebrity
Do celebrities own the means of production? Is celebrity a material class relationship? What about professional athletes that have sponsorships?

Sorry for all the questions I'm new to communism please explain it to me.
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 No.450623

File: 1630552624900.png (615.84 KB, 976x672, 1.png)

This is where all the patreon money goes and this is why he disappears for months at a time: healing from plastic surgery takes time.
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 No.450625

File: 1630554415989.png (1.18 MB, 640x720, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.450639

>>450616
He is Junk uyghur's nephew, not son
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 No.450648

<johns prey on the need of sex workers for money in order to have sex with them (when they could give them money without expecting anything in return.)
<the majority of sex workers in the world are from the global south, or from countries damaged by colonialism. so the relatively few western sex workers who might be ok with sex work shouldn't be taken as the reference point for the discussion
<sex work includes all types of porn and objectification
<all the sex workers I know view johns as class enemies

But mexie herself has shown ample cleavage in advertising thumbnails for her videos. She probably knows she's going to get objectified from it on some level. Or are the men who sponsor her on patreon immune from doing this? Obviously not. Does does she view them as class enemies because she needs a patreon income?
Anyway I disagree with the video but it's worth watching.
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 No.450649

>>450648
>the majority of sex workers in the world are from the global south, or from countries damaged by colonialism
the majority of the human population in the world are from the global south, or from countries damaged by colonialism

>the relatively few western sex workers who might be ok with sex work shouldn't be taken as the reference point for the discussion

Except they are the fucking loudmouths dominating the conversation 99,9% of the time, and now you, a Western e-celeb, wish to speak on behalf of third world prostitutes as well.
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 No.450656

>>450648
>>450649
What are you mad about. Her position is that the Belle Delphines shouldn't make policy for Epstein victims. What exactly do you disagree with?
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 No.450657

>>450648
<johns prey on the need of sex workers for money in order to have sex with them (when they could give them money without expecting anything in return.)
Whew, the staggering privilege of Western Women. Prostitution is fast and easy money no one has to do it. And it’s a young woman’s game, no one’s is shelling out $200-$500 a session to sleep with some menopausal 55 year old who need the money far more than some 20 year old. By Mixie’s logic prostitutes are predators because they don’t give their outsized profits to old ladies while expecting nothing in return.
And a lot of Johns are usually pretty poor themselves, just peek at any county’s ‘wall of shame’ after a prostitution sting.
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 No.450658


>>450657
>And a lot of Johns are usually pretty poor themselves, just peek at any county’s ‘wall of shame’ after a prostitution sting.
Yea, I agree. Just because you buy a newspaper in the morning, it doesn't make you Rupert Murdoch.
Do prostitution abolitionists ever get an Uber,or buy a coffee from an overworked barista? Or do they say I know you guys are badly treated, no I won't use it, the industry needs to be abolished.
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 No.450670

>>450658
What percentage of uber drivers and baristas are trafficked?
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 No.450674

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaTUaLpU6SQ
Jason is a conservative socialist now
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 No.450675

File: 1630632879351.gif (3.56 MB, 437x246, Implication.gif)

>>450592
Its always the cringe in the DMs. Why not wait until a girl trusts you enough as a friend to meet up. Then make a move
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 No.450684

Haz:
>If your dad is Arab, you are automatically Arab too, you belong to the Arabs. You need to speak Arabic? That's fucking cope. You only need to trace your Arabic last name to a tribe.
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 No.450685

I can 100% say that /r/loveforlandlords is not a satire sub

It's one of those "pretend to be dumb and say what you really want to say and pull the just zokes!1 card" kinda place

I can say after browsing that sub that I don't think mao landlordcide memes are too fucked up
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 No.450686

>>450675
implication of what?
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 No.450687

>>450621
bump i would like to know too
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 No.450694

>>450685

give me proof of this my dude.
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 No.450701

>>450694
proof: me and my excellent meme judgment skills

i'm never wrong
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 No.450702

>>450694
there is an actual satire sub called which also posts useful information

https://www.reddit.com/r/LandlordLove/
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 No.450707

>>450685
Yea the whole story about the creators making it to 'own those lefties' because we all hate landlords is a pretty bad fail now that the actual sub is a glorification of the most sociopathic actions taken by landlords.
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 No.450789

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 No.450790

>>450685
What’s wrong with just ignoring people like this?
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 No.450794

File: 1630769872977.mp4 (2.84 MB, 1080x1080, 9convert.com - Graduating ….mp4)

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 No.450796

>>450790
nothing infact that's how you kill such communities
by just not talking mentioning or giving them any traffic

>>370215
so what's the deal with gren greenwald hate exactly
all the popular leftie kids hate him because he's right wing and i thought it was because it was of some transphobic shit but apparently he was a friend of chelese e manning so i don't know
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 No.450833

Netflix’s Q-Force is a ham-fisted attempt to make the security state seem queer-friendly. Welcome to the LGBTQCIA

>Q-Force’s release has been well-timed, catching the crest of the wave of rebranding the same old neurotic, cruel, hostile practices via the hazy concept of diversity. The series depicts our characters killing, invading people’s privacy, lying, cheating, and stealing, but it’s all alright, because they’re LGBTQ. If the government is going to hack into your emails and read your private correspondence with your loved ones, isn’t it reassuring to know that they might employ a lesbian immigrant to do it?


>So, if you like your animated spy shows light on jokes but heavy on identitarian snark, such as, “Straight men are just lesbians with longer cargo shorts, fewer skills and evil in their hearts,” then Q-Force is the show for you. However, if you’ve tired of being told that state crimes are OK as long as they are ordered or committed by a diverse team that represents the whole of America, then I suggest treating this show like the cultural gonorrhoea that it surely is and steering well clear.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/533881-netflix-q-force-queer-friendly/
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 No.450835

>>450833
scathing review
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 No.450851

>>440338
you keep touching weeno
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 No.450854

File: 1630862776629.png (178.04 KB, 600x944, a56b00a55b1570e7d0bd4d1088….png)

>>450205
>Coffin is by far the best Leftist youtuber
no
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 No.450862

>>450855
Gamerghazi is liberal shitheels.
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 No.450927

https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/comments/pg5bl2/no_more_fatphobia/

I think it's time we took a stand with SRA and institute a similar policy here against fat shaming/fatphobia.
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 No.450931

>>450927
I thought we were over shit like this in 21
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 No.450933

>>450854
have you double checked if this is actually his account ?
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 No.450942

>>450927
The revolution will not be won by the obese anon. Go work off that flab and start thinking a little harder about what you shove in your mouth. Being unhealthy is not something to be proud of.
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 No.450970

File: 1630961988138.png (32.03 KB, 273x99, vausheyes.png)

>>450969
so what drugs is he on?
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 No.450974

>>450970
horse cock
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 No.451004

File: 1630998360736.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 27.04 MB, 1280x720, pq0i47.mp4)

Remember to share, like, subscribe, and hit that bell button.
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 No.451010

hasan using marxism to talk about worker co-ops was already infuriating but the fucking boomer tier anti-communist talking points from chat made me want to gut them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKxqkwHefiw

seriously wish i had an ability to shut people down until they fully listen
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 No.451023

>>451010
>seriously wish i had an ability to shut people down until they fully listen

just take the gulag pill
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 No.451127

>>450969
holy shit. what a hypocrite. you'd think wishing death on your political enemies and defending CP would harm the image of socialism at least as much as "le tankies"
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 No.451143

>>451004
Is this from Nick Fuentes stream?
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 No.451179

Vaush Independently Arrives at Socialism with Chinese Characteristics
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 No.451195

Newest culture war just dropped
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 No.451289

>>449827
> Richard Wolff's, Yanis Varoufakis' and Bernie Sanders
good, probably he slanders marxism less than these three
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 No.451290

>>449368
>Can anyone actually define “Nazbol”?
nazbol means based
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 No.451302

>>449368
meme or nazi or rightoid with spooked beliefs co-opting communist aesthetics because they think communism=gibs
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 No.451338

>>449368
>Can anyone actually define “Nazbol”?
I do.
The essence of nazbol is marxism without any historicism left. This clean Marx (and Engels) of all retarded progressivist takes they sometimes had.
If you keep this in mind you can figure what is real nazbol from what is not.
Nazbol is not:
third-positionism
racism
left natsoc
"social conservative" communism
campism
authoritarian versus libertarian
nazbol is:
pauperist
ruralist
anti-revisionist
but confuses many because it's anti-dogmatic and freeform

more if you ask
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 No.451339

>>442832
Their argument is similar to pro-Soviet leftists. You don’t need support “de-growth” to fight climate change.
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 No.451341

>>451338
Nah, nazbol is a meme ideology, read Marx and tou'll realize Orthodox Marxism basically disproves every twitter radlib claim.
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 No.451342

>>451341
you're a nazi, retard.
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 No.451357

>>451342
wtf leftcom-national socialist synthesis
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 No.451360

>>451342
Damn, .ogre is still assblasted and slabderibg everyone who opposes their ruthless clique.
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 No.451405

>>451357
or simply Bordiga
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 No.451408

>>451405
Bordiga isn't a nazi, and he doesn't deny the holocaust either.
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 No.451409

>>451408
>Bordiga isn't a nazi
Bordiga is dead, so you're right, he WAS a nazi.
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 No.451410

>>451409
>Bordiga was a nazi
Citation needed
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 No.451411

>>451409
uygha how the fuck was Bordiga a nazi?
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 No.451413

https://youtu.be/od8Wl-WrAiQ?t=536

Does this video discussion politician guy give proper advice in forming a union?
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 No.451422

>>451411
read bordiga and you'll see
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 No.451433

>>451422
Confirmed retard
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 No.451438

>>451422
No, literally, tell me in his writings, lol.
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 No.451472

File: 1631574444415.jpg (74.19 KB, 828x603, 1631574438978.jpg)

Jasons new video is stupid. Saying america is land theft but somehow in europe its not. The people we call European are not native to europe, they stole the land from the first peoples of europe during the aryan invasion. And even those first peoples had done a genocide of the neanderthals who were likely of comparable intelligence to people. You absolutely can have american patriotic socialism
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 No.451477

File: 1631580190090.jpg (14.72 KB, 243x272, nikocado.jpg)

>>450473
new face just dropped
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 No.451478

>leftcom shits up another thread
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 No.451484

File: 1631586049161.jpg (55.59 KB, 850x400, bordiga moment.jpg)

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 No.451485

File: 1631587458291.gif (225.26 KB, 240x137, AnotherDisfiguredJuliabutt….gif)

>>451478
>>451484
Yeah? Well the jewish nigger Lassallean store called, they are running out of you!
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 No.451497

>>451472
>The people we call European are not native to europe, they stole the land from the first peoples of europe during the aryan invasion
who lived in europe then
who were these people like the american indians that got their land stolen
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 No.451506

>>451438
>>451484
anyway I want to point out how you foolish people search texts for "proofs" like you were searching for material objects and can't do any hermeneutics
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 No.451533

https://twitter.com/tyromper/status/1437415242695254026

this is the most pathetic thread i saw today
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 No.451540

File: 1631630149089.mp4 (10.74 MB, 1280x720, Challenge The System..mp4)

Just noticed Jimmy's new intro video. Got me sentimental and made me think why… Been watching his coverage for 5 years and it's been a ride to remember.
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 No.451558

>>451540
I certainly respect him a lot less these days than I used to. His narcissism and insecurity has become extra apparent over the pandemic.
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 No.451559

>>451543
You sure are working hard to discredit a world-reknowned medication.
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 No.451564

File: 1631639609019.webm (717.16 KB, 1280x720, lmao.webm)

the highest stage of imperialism
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 No.451565

>>451558
t. Cenk Yoghurt
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 No.451580

>>451565
Nope, never spent more than 5 minutes watching the young turds. Jimmy just seems like he's been on the edge of a mental breakdown for the past year. I think he spends way too fucking much time on Twitter.
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 No.451690

File: 1631731182411.webm (24.41 MB, 1280x720, infraWUT.webm)

hello, fellow pussy-haver!
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 No.451691

File: 1631731348686.jpg (Spoiler Image, 503.09 KB, 1200x981, Female-Pelvis_Reproductive.jpg)

>>451690
for reference (for retards)
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 No.451692

What about the fourth hole. Where the squirt comes out of
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 No.451693

>>451690
>>451692
Thats piss and it comes from the butthole
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 No.451720

File: 1631739481136.webm (154.76 KB, 1330x694, never.webm)

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 No.451722

File: 1631740045922.jpg (62.13 KB, 1200x909, Screen-Shot-2020-07-27-at-….jpg)

>"J. Sakai was the original breadtuber"
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 No.451723

File: 1631740259159.jpg (15.95 KB, 480x360, bXXCeH5bE4Uw8Uh_6CUUlC8KuF….jpg)

>>451722
Theodor Jew Adorno was the original breadtuber. Think about it for a second. He was paid by the CIA just like the '68 synthetic leftists. The evidence is all over the place. How else could you explain the fact that Jim Morrison had a father who was involved with the imperialist US military?

CASE FUKKEN CLOSED
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 No.451726

File: 1631742085884.webm (393.35 KB, 340x254, incel.webm)

What amazes me about Infrared is that this asshole debated like 40 people already and nobody from his debate partners even thought about bringing up his incel shit.
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 No.451731

File: 1631743315867-0.mp4 (11.64 MB, 1324x718, soyboy.mp4)

File: 1631743315867-1.png (659.87 KB, 1027x899, lmao.png)

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 No.451732

File: 1631744770949.jpeg (24.05 KB, 474x397, images - 2021-09-15T17255….jpeg)

>>451726
PREACH IT KING
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 No.451733

File: 1631747006422.webm (6.01 MB, 898x570, personal_truth.webm)

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 No.451734

>>451733
so yeah, Haz is talking about his dad here
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 No.451739

File: 1631754475930.png (121.39 KB, 620x675, b6efbc06f79eddeb4e83a149d7….png)

>tfw hazposting was banned on leftypol.org
>tfw this isnt leftypol.org
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 No.451740

File: 1631754738437.jpg (158.19 KB, 1234x1104, 1631754685257.jpg)

In real life blue checks
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 No.451746

File: 1631757127904-0.jpg (124.56 KB, 1080x891, Screenshot_20210915-205033.jpg)

File: 1631757127904-1.png (256.01 KB, 291x609, d881655ac3bbc6bf4306a7fed2….png)

Infrafed IS LIVE
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 No.451747

>>451740
satire
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 No.451757

>I stand by the two hole theory, lmfao.
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 No.451764

>>451740
>>451747
It started off as satire, but people actually want them. So the artist is gonna start selling them.
https://bluecheckhomes.com/

>Baskin said she received more than 690 applications to get that badge as a crest on their actual home. "Not everyone is verified or famous, some people have 50 Instagram followers and do nail polish reviews. I'm like, 'Why do you want one of these?' I'm actually very curious, do they just appreciate the joke or do they really want one to signify they're a celebrity?" Baskin said.


>Baskin smiled when saying there is a 40-person committee reviewing applications. She committed to doing at least one real crest. The price tag? A cool $2,999.99.


>She got the idea after seeing actual crests on homes and figured the checkmark is the modern-day equivalent of a crest to show an "important" person lives at that house.


>So what does this say about us? "People do desire to become a brand and sort of become this dignified person," Baskin said. "That is, sort of, in the backburner of everyone's mind to show everyone that they are verified. I think that's what the internet wants you to aspire to be."

https://abc7news.com/twitter-how-to-get-verified-on-house-do-you-a-blue-check-for-your/10423310/
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 No.451765

>>451726
lol this is incendiary
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 No.451766

critical support to the t*rk against the idpol ridden stanoids in this stupid burger vaxx debate

i hate americans so much. it's unreal.
they have too much of everything and must create problems for themselves
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 No.451770

>>451726
beacuse he's an op and it's not the moment to shut him down yet
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 No.451773

>>451766
>they have too much of everything
bait
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 No.451775

File: 1631786393244.jpg (92.25 KB, 1100x825, false sheppard.jpg)

>>451764
I think the twitter check house decoration is going to turn into a symbol of shame, not a symbol of notoriety
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 No.451777

>>451773
?
are americans not literally throwing away excess of vaccines because they bought so much extra?
is your country not a production powerhouse so much that they regularly throw away excess of produced food and electronics just cause?
is your country not a first world developed country?

the only scarcity you guys face is the artificial kind that your porkies manufacture

my points is upper class americans have no real problems, so they must generate fake drama and crises like this anti-vaxx crap
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 No.451780

>>451777
>>>pfizer.com
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 No.451789

>>451782
>you mean the irrational fear of the unvaccinated that the ruling class is stirring up?
this isn't the first pandemic. Next one could be deadlier. if the death rate was 10%, anti-vaxxers still wouldn't believe it. being a skeptic is fine and dandy, but mRNA vaccine technology has been in development for 15 years or more. the white papers, journal articles, etc. are all available on the Internet for everyone to read. it's not a mystery happening behind closed doors.
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 No.451790

>>451789
Don't care, I'm still not taking it.
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 No.451791

>>451790
take your meds schizo
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 No.451794

File: 1631834585701.mp4 (2.01 MB, 620x360, E8v18izedvbhe_DA.mp4)

Black Hammer made the news
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 No.451795

>>451794
Apparently Nicki Manaj (big booty rapper for non-burgers) tweeted against mask mandates.
Tucker Carlson praised her on his show, and Nicki retweeted the clip.
Twitter's zoomers are on suicide watch rn
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 No.451796

>>451795
>mask mandate
Vaccine mandates*
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 No.451797

File: 1631836338936.mp4 (2.03 MB, 576x1024, 5za-OKcwssChj2t_.mp4)

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 No.451815

>>451795
pretty much. shits fugged
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 No.451827

>>451792
post proof schizo
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 No.451830

>>451540
What’s funny is that Jimmy is more Communist in agitation and practice than the majority of leftists. I’d go so far as to say that he’s more Communist then even other communist and socialist parties in America. His rhetoric, his ruthless criticism is akin to communist agitation in the 19th and early 20th century right up to the great betrayal of the social democrats.
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 No.451831

>>451782
>irrational fear of the unvaccinated
yeah okay shit for brains hippie
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 No.451835

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 No.451841

>>451789
goofy pharmabot
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 No.451853

>>451841
paid disinfo shill
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 No.451854

>>451853
goofyness overdrive
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 No.451860

File: 1631884204654.png (783.83 KB, 990x599, ClipboardImage.png)

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 No.451871

>>451855
Pee pee poo poo
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 No.451872

>>451860
They didn't allow the importation of foreign cars rhough
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 No.451911

File: 1632057803811-0.png (757.65 KB, 1764x622, 1.png)

File: 1632057803811-1.png (450.14 KB, 705x797, 2.png)

wut
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 No.451932

>>451917
Looks like she had cheap lip filler treatment.
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 No.451934

>>451792
>It's the first "pandemic" since 2009 when the WHO changed their definition of 'pandemic' to be based on prevalence rather than actual danger.
That has always been the definition of a pandemic/epidemic, how widespread the virus is and how many people are infected.
>then it would have more pronounced symptoms and it wouldn't spread as easily
small pox and polio come to mind as deadly viruses that are easily transmitted. they were stopped by massive vaccinations efforts. swine flu and bird flu are two other deadlier ones that are easily spread, except we didn't get rid of those, so people still get infected, albeit with a weaker form of the virus.
>And it has been a huge failure causing ADE and deadly outcomes.
how many people have died from the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, and how many were administered?
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 No.451938

>>451934
go away
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 No.451965

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 No.451975

what are some good lefty instagrams to follow. including your own if you post memes or leftoid stuff
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 No.451980

>>449487
good for him
get that money boy! whatever it takes

bleed the records industry
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 No.451981

>>451976
i can't read what language is this
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 No.451984

>>451980
I'm not an expert in burger-law but this could probably be used as a president for retard puritan takes on art they finally only recently got rid of.
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 No.451996

>>451984
when did they get rid of? could you post something about that
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 No.452011

Cringe Alert! Cringe Alert!
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 No.452035

https://twitter.com/MaoistRebelNews/status/1441551851095138307?s=19
RED ALERT
THE ROO HAS CROSSED THE ROO-BICON
I REPEAT
THE ROO HAS CROSSED THE ROO-BICON
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 No.452036

File: 1632528084489.png (46.35 KB, 886x487, 1632527875526.png)

>>452035
OH FUUUUUUUUUCK
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 No.452039

>>452036
>>452035
both of these guys are such extreme caricatures
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 No.452040

https://www.twitch.tv/infraredshow
Haz is debating the roo RIGHT NOW
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 No.452050

>>452049
by the law of retard motion every retard will clash with other retards at some point
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 No.452053

File: 1632575839994.png (759.54 KB, 445x1169, 1632537062329.png)

>>452049
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 No.452054

>>452050
so when are we debating then anon?
shall i put you down for 25th of october
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 No.452109

File: 1632723430451.png (6.69 MB, 2048x2048, ClipboardImage.png)

Oh man I can't wait for when azan talks about the LTV to h3h3
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 No.452121

Poo 💩
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 No.452123

>>452109
What the fuck am I looking at?
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 No.452124

>>452123
Erdogan and Sam Hyde have a new show
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 No.452125

What can be learnt from the African American Indo (Un)Civil Twitter War


How do you stop sensitive bitches from carrying about race? I think the path is of course class conciousness
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 No.452131

File: 1632827087542.jpg (66.89 KB, 904x960, 1435975932017.jpg)

>Anti-vaxxer american hogs storm a mall food court to LARP as revolutionaries against vaccine madates n shiet.
>Nobody is even checking vaccine passports
>They soyface and consoom their food!
<STUNNING, BRAVE, FREEDOM FIGHTERS!!!1

>One of them admits that two of his realtives have died from covid, b-but!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL49_gvCXb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JiBVjPY3pg

Oh man, I love and hate americans so much.
They really are the face of how much capitalism rots the mind and soul
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 No.452132

>>452131
I love too how gullible you are
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 No.452133

File: 1632829578929.jpg (848.43 KB, 1401x946, 1632750187625.jpg)

>>452131
They play with you like a fiddle. The more you believe Burgers are stupid, the more you believe stupid things, and before you notice you start reproducing behaviors similar to those depicted by the spectacle. You are already there and beyond: supporting the world take over and the dissolution of acquired livelihood and rights because "dumb suicidal magatards are against it."
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 No.452158

>>452132
>>452133
>future food cout invaders detected
brave revolutionaries you are, the 21st century lenins even
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 No.452164

>>452158
but you are really stupid.
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 No.452168

>>452164
no but you are american.
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 No.452265

>>452133
Red Kahina on leftypol??? lmfao based
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 No.452275

I barely got past the 2120 map, but when I got to 2:30, I almost lost it, what does he mean that the industry was really powerful but it didn't make sense because they had diminishing returns, what does that even mean?
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 No.452277

>>452275
at 7 minutes and 20 seconds
>everybody serious has realized that capitalism is the best economic system
why bother with this video, this person clearly hasn't been able to see through ruling ideology
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 No.452278

>>452277
Was in my recommended, was curious, instead I got an ass blast of cringe
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 No.452293

>>452168
need a source on that
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 No.452310

>>452275
Oh boy, what will I see this time?
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 No.452314

File: 1633237146992.png (820.06 KB, 1851x1055, 1.png)

>>452275
this is one of the most retarded things I've ever seen
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 No.452329

File: 1633280125150.jpg (187.9 KB, 1440x1544, 1633280119335.jpg)

Haz has gotten himself into enough trouble that he deleted the tweet lmao
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 No.452331

File: 1633280636795-0.jpg (189.95 KB, 513x2048, FAu8cZHXMAIywO3.jpg)

File: 1633280636795-1.jpg (184.15 KB, 1440x1037, FAuyUuTXEAAugyn.jpg)

>>452329
Tweet that led up to this. He's trying to invoke POC privilege now
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 No.452334

>>452331
What’s hilarious is that Haz is engaging in the patriotic nonsense that Vaush does. This uygha has gone full retard just to build his audience of larpers. The funny thing is that Has shares an audience with Caleb Maupin and in turn shares an audience with Peter Coffin and PACD. Leftist online discourse has become just nonsense drama filled with liberal fags like Vaush or spergs like Haz.
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 No.452337

>>452334
>ruhaan my child
>you are now an adult
>you must choose
<somewhat decent leftist politics
>or
<retarded shitposting and larping as a gorilla uyghur
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 No.452339

>>452331
This is the fate of all tankies that step outside of their echo chambers. They really are so much like /pol/. They have no idea how out of touch and coo-coo their ideas are.
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 No.452340

>>452329
It's an open secret that Asian women have white fever. But to say EVERY white male/ asian female relationship is solely motivated by this is so extreme not even incels will go this far, not unironically anyway.
Even if it was true, it has nothing to do with racism or identity politics. This is /pol/ tier.
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 No.452341

>>452331
LMAO, I watch a lot of non-compete and he's never once said people should leave the US.
This really comes across as jealousy to me since it's pretty clear to anyone Non-Compete lives in Vietnam for personal reasons like to be with his wife, and maybe because to cost of living is much lower. It's not motivated by his Anarchism LMAO.
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 No.452347

>>452342
Wow, the article is pretty unhinged. It's 10 pages of "no bully US about genocide".
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 No.452348

>>452342
I’ve been reading the article and he can’t under why it’s okay for MLs in other countries to be nationalist, but not okay for people in the US to be nationalist to the #1 imperialist power by a country mile.
Also he complains ALOT about the fact that Luna is a woman and Vietnamese National and her opinion is taken more seriously. Even though there’s no evidence of this.
He also just dismisses all the heat he received about his sexist and racist “sexpat” tweet with the boilerplate “you’re all too sensitive” and “it was no big deal anyway”.
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 No.452349

>>452342
He keeps saying that only white American ultra leftists hate America. Does his audience really believe this?
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 No.452350

>>452342
Haz’s argument against hating the American flag is just a repackaged version of “The confederate flag isn’t racist, it actually represents southern culture.” No one’s falling for it.
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 No.452351

HAZ is fighting DSARACIST on twitter
who will win?
you decide!
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 No.452352

>>452351
They're threatening to fight each other irl
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 No.452353

Seeing Haz's tweets
I get why you people make him your lolcow

This is some straight up basic ass internet comment section fighting lmao
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 No.452356

>>452348
Luna should just fuck herself since half of Vietnam is a settler state with genocidal tendencies.
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 No.452358

File: 1633355433175.jpg (245.98 KB, 1080x1454, Screenshot_20211003-075200.jpg)

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 No.452359

>>452358
Isn't he like 5 feet tall?
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 No.452362

Why I hate the USA Flag: Antipatriotism and Defeatism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgtw2T5y2OA
A response to "socialist patriots" by Non-compete.
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 No.452363

>>452342
I get Haz's point that when you say you hate America you are implying that you hate Americas as well.
But this assumes that everyone in America is patriotic and is offended by hatred of America, and that all US citizens identify as Americans.
Most Americans don't really identify with their government or nationalism, or do so very weakly. And while many Americans don't hate America, they have serious reservations and grievances and aren't triggered by American hatred, and in fact can empathize with it.
The idea that flag burning and calling America a genocidal state is an afront to every hard working and poor working class American is pretty laughable.
It's right out of the right-wing GOP playbook from the 2000's where they would wrap themselves in a US flag to deflect any criticism of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
Also, has Luna every claimed to be an ML. I watch alot of non-compete and have never heard her say she is. So I don't know why Haz keeps harping on the fact that she's not following ML orthodoxy.
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 No.452364

Has anyone seen this absolutely hilarious video devoid of any substance and is nothing but liberal idealist tears about why liberal democracy is so superior. It’s one of my favorite videos of a truly liberal idealist trying to explain politics. The absolute uncritical view devoid of any critical analysis except the most surface level analysis not only of geopolitics but history as well. A history devoid of connections, a politics separated from economic conditions and interest groups furthering interests and how that effects the politics of one nation to the other.
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 No.452365

>>452339
Luna oi is a tankie, what are you talking to about?
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 No.452366

>>452349
Haz actually believes that Trumpian rhetoric is itself representative of the average American, without understanding the material basis behind why a working class American would be for that rhetoric which has nothing to do with actual material realities. This means that Haz literally believes in a meme, in an ideal espoused as American patriotism devoid of any material base; basically Haz takes for reality, the things politicians like Trump say about America and not what Americans living in America say about America.

Haz funnily enough, in practice, speaks more like the conservative Hegelians or the “centrist” Hegelians like Max Stirner, more than he does the Hegelian left. When it comes to pure theoretical stuff, Infrared is Marxist but when it comes to practice, with Haz, it’s nothing but engaging in memery without politics. If the communists job is to clarify the points of struggle to the working class without engaging in sectarianism then what Haz is doing is nothing at all, at least when it comes to practice.

If there is any patriotism to be found for Americans when it comes to a working class background, it’s found in the black struggles or the civil rights struggles in the US. And the funny thing is that Haz looks down on BLM, and something tells me that if it were the late 60s he would look down on the Panthers for not sucking up to reactionaries.

I appreciate what Infrared brings with their theoretical knowledge when it comes to their theoretical videos but their practice is complete and utter larper trash.
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 No.452367

>>452364
>>452365
>>452366
Whoops, forgot to remove the embed.
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 No.452368

File: 1633382094045.png (202.89 KB, 1080x669, 1633382020979.png)

Facebook fuckin died
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 No.452369

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 No.452371

>>452370
the word is they fucked up something in networking and now they have to go in person to all those servers to fix it.
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 No.452372

File: 1633385510151.jpg (175 KB, 1080x1064, Screenshot_20211004-162827.jpg)

>>452368
welp, all the zucc companies are back up
interesting that this all came after a congressional hearing over Facebook's foreign influence and stoking ethnic conflicts across the globe.
its also interesting this comes right before a whistleblower is scheduled to testify on such allegations
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 No.452373

>>452365
Proofs? Doesn't seem plausiable given her husband is an anarchist. I've heard her say glowing things about three vietnam gov, but not that she is a tankie. Anyway Haz's claim they all tankies are nationalist is pretty superious, consider that most tankies want to ovet throw their gov.
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 No.452374

>>452366
this you-tube channel is pure cancer, in the video American entanglement he manages to demand that people who oppose war be punished.
After the revolution we will have to find an uninhabited island where all these warmongers can go to kill each other.
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 No.452375

>>452364
Kraut is either a historylet who researches wikipedia for his videos, or he just plain has an agenda
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 No.452376

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 No.452408

>>452375
He’s a neocon NATO dick rider, not even neoliberal since he stands utterly against any progressive movement with teeth. He says things like: you can protest you grievances but do not try to upset the established order or you’ll get famine, poverty, Venezuela, “authoritarianism”, even goes so far as to call Evo Morales a dictator typical of leftist politicians. Obviously him being a NATO type means that he stands with US hegemony against, China for example which he scare mongers over and in one of his videos gets really salty they Trump was so incompetent at challenging China that the country actually prospered during the tariffs. He cries about China making the whole world socialist and “authoritarian” because of its influence. His baby brain of geopolitics is hilarious.
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 No.452457

File: 1633603672261.jpg (200.05 KB, 1024x684, charity food line.jpg)

>>452364
>orbán stopped being against communism
yeah, look at all the communism we enjoy
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 No.452458

>>452363
>this assumes that everyone in America is patriotic and is offended by hatred of America
the majority are in my experience
>Most Americans don't really identify with their government or nationalism, or do so very weakly.
Right libertarians think of themselves as patriotic, they just pretend to hate the state. The state isn't the object of patriotism.
>Also, has Luna every claimed to be an ML.
I don't know but she does repeat the fact that she's a third generation communist in an ML country and then just offhandedly tells her viewers that the state should be immediately abolished after the revolution, as if that was a realistic option in any such country.
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 No.452467

>>452458
>the majority are in my experience
The majority of people don't vote. That tells you all you need to know about how patriotic people are. Most people don't care about the state because the state doesn't care about them. To think otherwise is not materialist.
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 No.452476

>>452467
>patriotism is about the state
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 No.452477

>>452467
Worker care about the state because it has social security services that support them during the times the capitalist class denies them employment.
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 No.452480

>>452476
What's it about if not that? Is it not patriotic to vote? Or is slvaishing supporting the state as it murders people around the world enough?
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 No.452481

>>452477
Social Security is a fig leaf of a socal safety net. People that live off solely social security are stupendiously poor.
Being given just enough so you're not earing litteral cat food isn't enough to invole loyalty to the state or it's citzens.
You'd have to give people major property for that. Haz is almost certainly propertied if not petitie booj.
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 No.452482

>>452481
*eating literal
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 No.452585

New "Классовая лирика//Выпуск 2// Грабить городами" just dropped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swZ-Ym5B9Ro
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 No.452720

Going to kill myself
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 No.452722

>>452036
Um, holy based?
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 No.452726

New "What is to be Read" just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwT0oO4IEIk
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 No.453160

>>453158
More like cringe.
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 No.453161

>>452720
You really shouldn’t do that over such a colossal faggot,
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 No.453166

>>453158
>replies to thots advertising their onlyfans
Holy cringe, he should just do what he does twitch and block everyone who @s him
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 No.453167

>>453166
It's the other way around, they're replying to him. The kid is a fucking mong but it's pretty cool how he uses blatant negging tactics to manipulate the radlib thots into sending him personalised lewds with notes about how he's been a very bad boy that needs to be scolded. A lot of people pay top dollar for that kind of attention.
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 No.453168

These people throwing around the I word. Everybody wants to be a fascist and punching down, but punching down is the most unchad thing you can do and people see right through it, it's comical. Fuck Haz.
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 No.453183

>>453168
The fuck did he do now?
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 No.453498

File: 1639010716063.mp3 (1.56 MB, cth_zizek.mp3)

Zizek went on Chapo Trap House in the latest episode
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 No.453499

>>453498
from this episode
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 No.453522

>>453499
I stopped listening to this shit after the primaries.
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 No.454006

File: 1642114816894.png (686.53 KB, 900x900, ClipboardImage.png)

i'm out of the loop. can i get a quick rundown on Haz / @infrahaz? what's the beef between him and that @margbaramerica guy? why does haz want to fight him? will it be streamed live on ppv? i'd like to bet $ on haz bc he looks like he trains for raw builtfat grizzly strength while margbar guy looks like he trains for aesthetics.
https://twitter.com/InfraHaz/status/1476432537857642496
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 No.454007

>>454006
Last I knew him and the CPUSA were in a shit throwing contest.
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 No.454009

>>454007
No I mean, WHO is Haz? what does he do? and why is he mentioned so often on the leftychans and certain twitter spaces?
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 No.454012

>>454009
He's mentioned often here because he was basically made here and on org. He started off as a small streamer who used to lurk here while he was streaming and give commentary on the ITG thread. Eventually (like everyone knew) he exposed himself to be a political hack and basically used leftypol to catapult his streaming career. It all cumulated in an alleged CP post by some one and him and the leftypol staff banishing any and all conversation about the other.
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 No.454018

>>454012
ok. so what is his specific ideology? and what is he proposing right now?
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 No.454019

>>454018
His ideology is pretty much all over the place. I have no idea what he's on about right now. I don't keep up with him, but, he's basically a nationalist with socialist tendencies. (Not to be conflated with an actual national socialist) but he follows a lot of Alexander Dugin unironically and is a pretty hard core revisionist. Hasn't read a lick of Marx, don't be fooled.
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 No.454020

>>454019
interesting. good to know.
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 No.454022

>>454020
No problem.
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 No.454764

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 No.454766

>>454019
Haz is a real comrade. He just impersonates duginism and larouchism and other nonsense for the monies.
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 No.454787

File: 1647300609920.png (167.37 KB, 652x1042, 511yjgjlm1zj.png)

anarchists being gay and retarded

again
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 No.454788

>>454787
global in its locality

I hate that I ever used to be one of these fucking people.
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 No.454856

>>454787
This is fucking astroturf I refuse to believe these beings walk among us.
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 No.454857

>>454856
It would take an incredible level of stupidity to get this low but nah believe it these people walk among us.
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 No.454934

File: 1648599859156.jpg (35.66 KB, 537x324, 1648599798769.jpg)

Is it possible to stop cancel culture at this point?
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 No.454935

>>454934
All of the libs from the early 2000's went on the become communists. At least I did.
Crazy to think about, though.
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 No.454936

>>454934
People were not more principled 20 years ago, it just wasn't practical enough to do it.
20 years ago it was a lot more difficult to track who attended a protest, and the kind of people that have power now, didn't have power back then. If you change the technology infrastructure to make it harder to track people, the social norms will change along with it.
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 No.455109

>>454766
>Haz is a real comrade. He just impersonates duginism and larouchism and other nonsense for the monies.
this sounds like
<ackchyually Trump fights the zionist lobby
or
<um ackchyually Putin is secretly a good communist guy who builds the USSR 2.0
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 No.455125

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 No.455133

File: 1650671084394.mp4 (3.25 MB, 432x432, 1650671078896.mp4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imVQRw7nU4
Hazs thought has quickly gained a lot of coherence. Its obvious he's been trying to find his own terrain intellectually and this sounds as close to a manifesto as I've seen. Don't fully agree with it, but it is serving a need thats been neglected by the rest of the left. Its ultimately not that different from leftypol.

This will likely become much bigger tendency in the near future.
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 No.455135

>>455133
I can't watch the video, so, I am just going to assume that haz is a fucking retartd still. What points did he make anyways?
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 No.455136

>>455133
I can't watch the video, so, I am just going to assume that haz is a fucking retartd still. What points did he make anyways?
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 No.455137

>>455135
it's just him being an accelerationist :/
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 No.455138

>>455137
Its hard to believe I used to buy into that shit.
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 No.455139

>>455137
Its hard to believe I used to buy into that shit.
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 No.455140

Elon musk bought the bird.
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 No.455144

>>455140
Trump will return and we will live through 2016 again
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 No.455145

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kaaYvauNho holodomor and wikipedia debunked
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 No.455146

>>455144
Frankly, I really hope so. Biden is so fucking boring.
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 No.455205

File: 1651795901245.mp4 (16.77 MB, 1280x720, VID_20220505_200146_570.mp4)

Theres a new ad for the US psychological warfare unit entitled "Ghost in the Machine".

Better than the CIA ad that got made fun of for being so woke. This one seems to be about selling a vision that you can know the truth behind world events. Not be one of the sheeple.
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 No.455206

>>455205
Could this be made to appeal to gamer bros any harder? I can't believe this is the world we live in where truths are suppressed via psychological warfare on the population and complacency is manufactured and those who would seek to stand in opposition to this tyranny are framed to be the murders of god.

Dark times are upon us.
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 No.455207

>>455205
Weird advertising looks like they made it for high school dropouts, when they want college kids.
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 No.455208

>>455207
Young adults fresh out of highschool or college are their primary demographic and most likely to find this kid of shit appealing.

Go look at an apex or COD trailer. The ad takes all its ques from them for sure.
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 No.456290

File: 1661183976774.png (655.35 KB, 1080x454, Screenshot_20220822-165826.png)

What did he mean by this?
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 No.456296

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>>456290
Does wanting to fuck fresh newly available pussy really make you a pedophile?
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 No.456350

>>456296
I know it might be trivial but the semantic degredation of "pedophile" into just another moral term worries me. It subtly implies that any vague notion of mental age or maturity is more important than the real physical changes that brains and bodies undergo.
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 No.456352

>>456350
Well you can blame the LGBT movement for that. Particularly trans people when they insisted that gender was a completely social construct when it clearly had always meant and been treated as the the material sex differences between men and women.
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 No.456353

File: 1661240074024.jpg (64.45 KB, 615x946, 1654323630244.jpg)

>>456352
Go back to pol retard. People have been equating the word pedophile to anything they dislike for decades at this point. The refusal to differentiate hebephila from pedophilia is proof 🧾 f this and has nothing to do with the fact gender doesn't exist kek. You fags will literally blame anything on gay people. Kys
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 No.456354

>>456353
>Go back to pol retard.
Projection
>People have been equating the word pedophile to anything they dislike for decades at this point.
No they fucking haven't.
>he refusal to differentiate hebephila from pedophilia is proof 🧾 f this and has nothing to do with the fact gender doesn't exist kek.
Gender does exist, ask your mom.
>You fags will literally blame anything on gay people.
This is on you and your trans allies. Yes, this militant disassociation from material reality and abstractions like gender was something you all did for the last 12 years.
Your gender crap is a religion, and unverifiable refuge that you can retreat into and be "right" no matter what. It was only a matter of time before it was started to be abused to extend to things like pedophilia.
>Kys
Come at me bro.
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 No.456355

>>456353
>You fags will literally blame anything on gay people.
I blamed it primarily on trans people's insistence that a penis somehow doesn't make you a man.
If you can deny that, you can deny anything.
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 No.456356

>>456355
The onus actually is on you to prove that gender is real. You're the one making the claim. Just because you learned it 20 years ago in highschool biology doesn't make it true
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 No.456357

File: 1661243663090.jpg (117.19 KB, 1022x1024, 1654278833990.jpg)

>>456354
>If you disagree with me you're a transhumanist

You believe in gender too. That's why you're obsessed with dudes wearing dresses because you believe that only people with a certain composition of chromosomes should wear certain things which is really weird when you put it like that.
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 No.456358

>>456352
The academics don't deny the reality of sex, they just differ from scientists and the general populace by using gender as a term distinct from sex. I don't have a problem with this at all, because it expands my ability to communicate and therefore gives me more freedom.
It's precisely these liberal "allies" who conflate the academic definition of gender with sex and thus degrade the meaning of both, not LGBT people (which is itself a concept twisted and degraded by liberalism).
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 No.456359

>>456356
Okay raise your hand if you were born from a MtF trans person? There, proved gender is real.
Now disprove my thesis, and tying yourself in dialectic pretzels doesn't count.
You guys are like atheists who say that because there's no proof of god that proves there is no god. You think you're objective when infact you just replace one spook for another.
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 No.456360

>>456357
No dipshit, customs like that flow from the material differences between men and women. Women have wider hips and dresses flatter that.
We have sperate restrooms because real women are vulnerable to sexual assault. You don't hit women because women can be pregnant and you could induce a miscarriage. A lot of gender roles revolve around women's ability to conceive a child.
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 No.456361

>>456357
>a racist and confused about his sex.
Can't make this up.
>inb4 the n word isn't racist
Then say it to some black guys in public.
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 No.456362

>>456359
See >>456358
Your understanding of gender is spoiled by how liberals misuse and manipulate the word.
>>456360
I'm curious, would you have transmen like Buck Angel be forced to use the women's restroom?
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 No.456363

>>456362
>Your understanding of gender is spoiled by how liberals misuse and manipulate the word.
I'm not, you're trying to make real an abstraction via social ostracization which in the social media age is a very real coercive power. Which is why I liken it to religion, it's a completely unfalsifiable belief that forced onto a populace via violence to serve political ends.
>I'm curious, would you have transmen like Buck Angel be forced to use the women's restroom
Yes, and I'd make him compete in men's sports too because both of those things were always segregated by sex, and the physical differences between men and women. And his sex is male.
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 No.456364

>>456362
>Your understanding of gender is spoiled by how liberals misuse and manipulate the word.
It's not, gender is your identity, but an identity is simply what you believe and beliefs don't effect physical reality. You work from the sophist assumption that people are referring to your identity when they refer to your gender because narcissism is endemic in the west people think their selfish view of the world should be validated by everyone instead of sharing some objective reality.
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 No.456365

>>456363
You don't even follow your own logic. Lol.
Some men and some women fit stereotypes but some don't. Buck angle doesn't and neither does line trap Bailey Jay. This is massive cope and just more proof that your magic conception of gender doesn't actually exist outside of anywhere but your head.
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 No.456366

>>456354
>No they fucking haven't.

What? I know people who have dated 16-17 year olds as a 20-something and have gotten canceled, called a pedo, and beaten up for it in public.
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 No.456368

File: 1661289065161.jpg (67.63 KB, 978x1094, 1654295272866.jpg)

>>456366
In my state it's not uncommon for people to follow a 4 year rule. When I was 18 I was dating a 14 year old. We never had sex or anything. And it was more of a summer romance thing but I am worried now that if people found out I would get the shit beat out of me for something I did when I was a dumb ass 18 year old and I was fucking stupid. I kind of think it was wrong now and I keep my age bracket no more than 5 years younger than me in my late 20s but Jesus it's still kind of ridiculous. I think it's mostly cause our society hates men tbh.

I mean 18 year old women are seen as naive uneducated retards and I der 21 men are seen as full grown adults. What gives?
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 No.456369

>>456359
No that isn't how it works. The issue is society has super imposed a concept like gender on objective facts like chromosomal composition. What part of an XY chromosome person says they can't wear a dress? It makes literally no sense. The only thing stopping them is your literal feelings that you try to pass off as objective science.
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 No.456370


>>456364
>instead of sharing some objective reality.

Thank you anon, there's a reason why strongly held beliefs and delusions are hard to discern in the world of psychology.

>>456365
Yeah people don't really fit into a box, some people feel more a type of way than others. I sit down when I pee, some call me a woman for that, but I'm still a man.

If you choose to identify with something then more often than not that is driven by belief. Some of us don't care what you want to be identified as, but refuting the fact that biologically one is either a man or a woman and if they so choose to be otherwise then that is subjective. Sure you can be whatever the fuck you want yeah, at the end of the day everything is an idea that exists in your head too. If your brain is telling you otherwise also because of how it is wired or whatever, I cannot stop you. However, don't force it as an indoctrination upon other people and expect me to coddle your world view because of your feelings. If you put your son in a dress before they can comprehend language and tell them they might be a girl it's fine, or this or that, will rob them of their free-will through indoctrination. If they are truly trans they will encounter the concept beyond being a child and know themselves what they are or not. This type of action almost refutes the fact that BIOLOGICALLY, there is a man and woman, which is inane.
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 No.456371

>>456368
>I think it's mostly cause our society hates men tbh.
Well it hates low status men that will not accept that they cannot exercise their own agency.
>What part of an XY chromosome person says they can't wear a dress?
>Why do we have use the word girl to describe females, why can't we use the word 'taco crotches', haha in fact that's what I'm doing right now gramps and you can't stop me.
This the extent of the intellect behind these Tumblrina gender ideology.
Women wear dresses because society appreciates the real physical and psychological difference between men and women. It could be something else but it's not.
You're not exactly blowing minds by putting on a dress and exclaiming "SEE, DUDES CAN DO THIS TOO'.
But you mental ill people go far beyond that. You are idealists that ideas shape reality. And since some parts of gender can be subverted, that means all of gender including the very thing between your legs can.
Sorry it can't, and what makes a woman goes far beyond a few culture shorthands that are totally bullshit maaaan.
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 No.456373

>>456371
Yeah no one thinks you are. Not here anyways but you are admitting yourself pretty much that it's all subjective and up to interpretation of individuals. Some people find traps attractive. Hell some.people find gigahins attractive. It has nothing to do with biology though.
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 No.456374

File: 1661294102466.jpg (517.84 KB, 1995x1248, jesus.jpg)

>>456365
>Some men and some women fit stereotypes but some don't.
Those stereotypes are ideals. Could every man be as ripped and adept at combat as a champion MMA fighter, no, but they could certainly be more fit and combat ready than the androgynous feminist ideology would lead them to believe.
And their potential far exceeds that of women.
Someone earlier talked about Andrew Tate, and while most of his stuff is so off the charts misogynist to a degree that he comes across like a feminist plant to me, he did say somethings that I think liberals and LGBT activists finding actually threatening.
He said that society is attempting to trick men into forfeiting their masculinity because it is a source of power for men that could potentially cause civil unrest in the system.
I think he's right on that point, most of the LGBT activism, especially the recent targeting of children, has been to confuse and mislead impressionable young boys about their budding sexuality to neutralize any masculinity they might cultivate before it's had a chance to start.
You don't need to indoctrinate every child into LGBT ideology when at best 7%-4% of the population is that.
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 No.456375

>>456373
>you are admitting yourself pretty much that it's all subjective
Did you not read my post, I did no such thing. Gendered icons are just ways to reinforce the real gender of men and women.
>and up to interpretation of individuals.
No, it's a collective societal thing and can very widely between even regions.
>Some people find traps attractive.
Those people are homosexuals.
>Hell some.people find gigahins attractive. It has nothing to do with biology though.
Most people find the opposite sex attractive, which is why we have billions of people on earth, and trillions more that have passed away.
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 No.456376

>>456374
Right but people with certain chromosomes can exibit attractive traits of the opposite sex even up to the point of being more well defined and attractive than the "authentic" sex itself no? I mean this is kind of the clear hole in your reasoning.
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 No.456377

File: 1661295218079.jpg (47.78 KB, 708x960, ijk0KG9.jpg)

>>456375
So basically you are just appealing to the majority? I still don't understand what is confusing. There is no "Women have to wear dresses", gene. Boys are not attached objectively to the color blue and even if societies (currently) expect boys to wear blue and girls to wear pink that doesn't make it objectively so and if it isn't objective fact then it's just your opinion and if it's just your opinion then you are just a dumb ass ignorant faggot who hates people cause your feelings tell you too which is very low autism score.
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 No.456382

>>456377
>There is no "Women have to wear dresses", gene.
Yes but just because that's true that doesn't mean the concept of women doesn't exist.
Women wear skirts because there's women and men, not because women wear skirts and men don't.
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 No.456384

>>456376
What person naturally looks like the opposite of their sex, I've never seen it IRL.
Even the best passing trans people aren't that convincing without make up or surgery.
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 No.456386


>>456382
Yes it does actually because that means it's an imaterial, abstract idea, that we can change at any point in time. Meaning, you are choosing to being a dick about it for no reason other than your feels. It's a conscious choice.
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 No.456387

>>456384
So what if some people require plastic surgery? There's a lot of cis people who use plastic surgery in order to look better. But when trans people do it it's suddenly a big deal? It doesn't make.much sense lol.
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 No.456388

>>456387
>So what if some people require plastic surgery?
You thesis was that some people look like their opposite sex, they only look like that because they go through a lot of effort to do so.
>>456386
>Yes it does actually because that means it's an imaterial,
No dude, if I don't have a word to describe a bat because I've never seen one, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Just because you can change the idea of a woman, doesn't change what a woman is.
>It's a conscious choice.
Idealist liberalism.
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 No.456389

>>456388
No my argument was that some people naturally even look like the opposite sex and even if they don't "well plastic surgery" isn't a good argument either cause everyone gets plastic surgery for various reasons.

A bat exists in material reality but as I said our concept of "gender" doesn't. It's a spook. People can dress how they want and you being upset about it can't really change that. Gender is just a way for people to control other people. Story as old as time.

>making choices is liberalism


>Adhering to literal idealist spooks is not
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 No.456390

>>456389
>Gender is just a way for people to control other people.

Have you ever thought about it the other way around? How is it not control when forcing one with indoctrination at a young age? How would feel if you were told your entire life as a male that you don't have to be one because that's just how it is and get your dick chopped off, only to realize later you really weren't born that way it was just what was crammed into your skull during nurture, and is not your nature. A population full of gender confused people, wearing whatever they want just because you say everyone should and can, seems to me like a subservient group of people not looking at the real problems of the world and their nation. Instead it's about identity and feeling safe, when the elite is robbing you of your life all the same.
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 No.456391

File: 1661322748085.jpg (2.45 MB, 3000x1997, halloween2.jpg)

>>456389
>No my argument was that some people naturally even look like the opposite sex
Proofs? I've honestly never seen one.
>and even if they don't "well plastic surgery" isn't a good argument either
You can't naturally look like your opposite sex and use surgery and makeup.
>cause everyone gets plastic surgery for various reasons.
You gotta be a burger.
>A bat exists in material reality but as I said our concept of "gender" doesn't.
A bat is both a real thing and a concept. I can draw a bat, but a drawing of a bat is not a bat. I can even abstract the concept of a bat to the point where it resembles little to nothing of it's natural counterpart, like say the Batman's logo.
You think because you can shape the abstraction that it means you've destroyed the material original.
You gender theories hold no more barring on what makes a man and woman anymore than Batman the comic changed bats in the wild.
>Gender is just a way for people to control other people.
It can be, but it is not inherently so. One reason for gender is to expatiate hetro sexual selection, men and women boost their sexual attractiveness by conforming to gender norms.
It's so clear to anyone outside the west that this obsession with transgenderism is a eugenic to frustrate and confuse young women, but especially men, about sexuality in the already dangerous minefield that is the western dating market.
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 No.456394

>>456391
Literally line trap


Look it up. One of the oldest memes on the internet.
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 No.456417

File: 1661352687156.jpg (1.3 MB, 1972x1612, Buck_Angel_Headshot.jpg)

>>456363
>you're trying to make real an abstraction via social ostracization
I've never once done such a thing. Show me where I've done so. If anything, I'm arguing for the opposite.
>Yes, and I'd make him compete in men's sports too because both of those things were always segregated by sex
Just to clarify, Buck Angel (pic related) was born female. You're saying you'd have him be forced to use the women's washroom? AND also compete in men's sports?
>>456364
>It's not, gender is your identity, but an identity is simply what you believe and beliefs don't effect physical reality.
Completely wrong, not even academics believe this. Gender emerged as an primitive form of division of labour, informed by sex and plastic to material conditions, allowing men to adopt the woman's role when women were scarce and vice-versa. Such roles are currently in the process of being rendered obsolete due to technological advancement, creating the misconconception that gender has always been a mere identity.
>You work from the sophist assumption that people are referring to your identity when they refer to your gender because narcissism is endemic in the west people think their selfish view of the world should be validated by everyone instead of sharing some objective reality.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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 No.456462

>>456417
>I've never once done such a thing. Show me where I've done so. If anything, I'm arguing for the opposite.
That's the whole core of transgender activism. It's why you fight for dumb things like men going into the women's restroom.
>Just to clarify, Buck Angel (pic related) was born female. You're saying you'd have him be forced to use the women's washroom? AND also compete in men's sports?
I'd force him to use women's restrooms and play women's sports. But only after a steroid test.
>Completely wrong, not even academics believe this.
Not true, but regardless I'm talking about the politics of this in the real world, no academia.
>Gender emerged as an primitive form of division of labour, informed by sex and plastic to material conditions, allowing men to adopt the woman's role when women were scarce and vice-versa. Such roles are currently in the process of being rendered obsolete due to technological advancement,
Gender also being a natural outgrowth of the material reality of the different sexes isn't mutually exclusive to this.
This is what gender queer brainlets like you can't understand. You think that because you can find admittedly profound critiques in gender therefore you have the moral authority to destroy gender altogether.
I won't even get into how no one asked you and the only reason why your view is so "popular" is because Silicon Valley VC money is amplifying your views on social media.
>creating the misconconception that gender has always been a mere identity.
If it wasn't merely an identity you wouldn't have to ask what someone's pronouns are, that shows it's completely subjective, like an identity.
>I have no idea what you're talking about.
You used strawmen to browbeat people into accepting that gender is something distinct from sex, when it wasn't.
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 No.456468

>>456462
This is some backwards gaslighting retardation right here lol. The people who actually suffer from being forced to behave a certain way in society in line with your dumb spooks are the ones who suffer and why we want to abolish the imaterial not just "cause bro" lmao. You yourself admitted that it's all a spook so why do you cling so desperately to your false ideology? It's like a religious person clinging to their faith. You're desperate to cling to tradition in an ever changing universe you're fighting against nature here, ironically enough.

Why can't you just let people be and act how they want?
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 No.456469

>>456468
>Why can't you just let people be and act how they want?
Why can't you, you're not arguing from a neutral position either. I'm saying that people recognize gender because a lot of different politics flow from one's real corporeal body.
You're saying everyone should have to pretend this isn't so because a few (like 1%) souls can't accept that their bodies are different than the one's they'd like.
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 No.456470

>>456468
I don't personally care what anyone does. You're the one who is trying to prevent people from doing things and you now have to equate me with the stereotypes in your head in order to make yourself feel better. Cooe
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 No.456471

How true is this
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 No.456472

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How true is this.
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 No.456473

>>456462
>I'd force him to use women's restrooms and play women's sports. But only after a steroid test.
Okay anon, so how would you do it? Would you have people guarding the entrances to washrooms inspecting people's genitals?
What do you think the reaction of the average woman would be if they saw Buck Angel pissing in their restroom? Maybe we shouls put a badge on such people to identify them as "born female" and so on, so that the reaction isn't as bad?
Please, explain how you would actually enforce such a thing, I'm very curious.
The rest of your post makes almost sense. At this point I'm convinced that you're just a troll, if not deranged. You're arguing against a fictional opponent.
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 No.456478

>>456462
>>456473
I want to articulate my position for you as best as possible. I do not want to argue about semantics, nor do I want to make such a long post, but some discussion of such is necessary to clear up misconceptions.

I claim that there are two different types of people who are identified as transgender today.
The first type are those who are born as one sex, but strongly recognize themselves as another.
The second type are those who are comfortable with their sex, but find that the social expectations put upon them based on their sex do not accurately reflect their identity.
For the first type of transgender person, the use of the word "gender" is synonymous with sex. For such people, there is evidence that sex reassignment surgery and related treatments are effective when done properly.
For the second type of transgender person, the use of the word "gender" is completely detached from sex, and is ultimately a performance that justifies their identity. For such people, sex reassignment surgery and related treatments are pointless and dangerous.
From the perspective of the first type of transgender person, the second type are clowns who maliciously destroy the legitimacy of the trans struggle, since they do not experience dysphoria with regard to their sex yet lay claim to being transgender by constructing and hopping between a near infinite multitude of identities.
From the perspective of the second type of transgender person, the first type are essentialists who reify cisnormative categories of gender identity and are unfairly policing their freedom to express their own identities.

We also see a similar divide on the use of the word gender outside of how it is used by transgender people.
In most scientific papers and for the average laymen, gender is more or less synonymous with sex. "Conservatives" take up this position to attack the liberal-transgender ideology, but simultaneously make no attempt to distinguish between the first and second types of transgender people and attack them both with the same line.
For many intellectuals and social scientists, gender is distinct from sex (but there isn't a consensus on this distinction is). Liberals assert the idealist position that gender is a pure performance, and thus side with the second type of transgender person at the expense of the first, while also conflating the two like the conservatives do. I suspect that liberals are responsible for creating the second type of transgender person.

I claim that the materialist definition of gender is, as I mentioned before, a pattern of behaviour emerging from the division of labour informed by sex roles in primitive societies. It's obvious that males are physiologically better suited for hunting and combat, and females likewise for gathering and homemaking. However, there were times when one sex was scarce, or some other situation occurs where the need for the physiological advantages of one sex drastically shifted. In such cases, one sex would (often temporarily) adopt the roles of another. In short, a man could be feminine and a woman could be masculine if material conditions demanded it, but both are ultimately defined by the physiology of the sex that performs best in that role.
Under modern conditions of production, the division of labour is continually becoming less dependent on physiological difference. To use an obvious example, a female cannot fight with a sword and shield or endure the stresses of combat like a man can, but she can still aim a gun just as well in most cases (if not better). Furthermore, the natural strength advantage of a male doesn't mean much in an office environment, though neither does a female's flexibility. It goes without saying that we have not transcended the need for physiological differences in all forms of labour, but supposing that it does one day happen (say with artificial wombs and significant automation), gender as it is presently understood would simply cease to exist - it would wither away.
From this materialist perspective, both types of transgender people are not transgender. The first type is actually "transsexual" and not "transgender", and thus experience "sex dysphoria". The second type are post-genderists who assert their position as actual when gender has yet to be overcome.

Liberals create their ideology by cherry-picking various academic positions that are most convenient to them and promoting misconceptions in order to construct a marginalized identity group to rally around. Their strategy is to create a false unity of a negation of the dominant identity groups and use hyper-moralization to bully and blackmail others into submission. When they are no longer able to compete by using the same marginalized identity groups, they attempt to expand said groups by creating new identities or by attempting to assimilate what others they can find (LGBTQIA2S+, slavs are people of color, et cetera). This is what is happening to transgender people and, anecdotally based on current trends, what I suspect will happen in the future for anyone with a mental disorder. "Conservatives" are, as expected, not merely a reaction but a reflection of this absurd state of affairs, who mirror the same strategy but for the dominant identity groups instead.

The unfortunate result of all of this is that the struggles of the first type of transgender person - the ones who experience "sex dysphoria" - are either erased or utterly mangled in any discussion on gender. Obviously I do not place their struggle above the class struggle, but I strongly sympathize with them as yet another victim of the liberal's rotten and cynical ideological manoeuvring. Enter into a discussion with these people and you'll find that they resent practically every mainstream position on gender, and I don't blame them.
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 No.456479

>>456478
Quality post anon, but it's honestly not worth it. (You) are being the only one engaged here.

>and, anecdotally based on current trends, what I suspect will happen in the future for anyone with a mental disorder


I hope not, I'm a proponent of everything is a spectrum and all mental disorders exist off of their perspective spectrum to be found latently in the average person with small traits– but not enough to be a clinical diagnosis. This however, can be abused heavily when applied to the idea of schizophrenia for someone's own subjective reality.
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 No.456480

>>456479
I'm seeing parallels between how gender degenerated into a mere token of self-expression with how Dissociative Identity Disorder is being presented on social media. The problem here is the same with gender/sex dysphoria in that a therapist cannot conclusively prove whether or not a person is really experiencing the disorder, or just believes that they have the disorder and acts a certain way in order to confirm it.
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 No.456482

>>456480
I see. I have conceptualized that view, but not at that angle. It's always been apparent to me that if someone identifies with something it will change how they think and in turn interact with the world whether they are or not. My last argument with people about this was in the Gifted subreddit.

I am afraid if schizophrenia is identified by my theories, and mixed with your logic, people will use it to justify their delusions strongly held beliefs. I never share this idea online for the most part because of this.
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 No.456492

File: 1661413250667.jpg (95.34 KB, 1885x1280, biguns.jpg)

>>456478
>TL;DR, there's two different types of gender, identity and societal expectations.
We used to call the latter simply "gender roles". Which is far more clear and was purposely abandoned to make the "oppression" more profound. You go from simply putting pressure on someone to do something they don't want to, to persecuting for their very being.

I have no problems deconstructing gender roles, and I agree that many expectations of either sex are unreasonable, but that doesn't make gender itself not real.

To return to the example of not hitting women because they could be pregnant. This is a gender role or gendered consideration. Should we just start hitting women if they step too far out of line as we would a man. Idk, maybe, but the gendered consideration of them possibly being pregnant is still real. It would be silly to ponder the same question of men, since men can never be baring a child.
>Under modern conditions of production, the division of labour is continually becoming less dependent on physiological difference.
Gender goes far far beyond simple labor or physiological considerations. There is beauty in the sexes, life, love and spirituality. The west is so feminist that they cannot conceive of wanting to celebrate gender. That people simply love women or men for being women and men.
That people want to lean into the tremendous strengths they already have.
And yes, this should be encouraged, doing otherwise is swimming upstream. If you want to fight the nature of your body that's fine, but don't tell people you're actually returning to your true form, because you ain't. The "You will never be a woman" meme is unfortunately true, that doesn't invalidate your feelings, transgenderism is a social maladaptation and should be recognized as such.
>Liberals create their ideology by cherry-picking various academic positions that are most convenient to them and promoting misconceptions in order to construct a marginalized identity group to rally around. Their strategy is to create a false unity of a negation of the dominant identity groups and use hyper-moralization to bully and blackmail others into submission. When they are no longer able to compete by using the same marginalized identity groups, they attempt to expand said groups by creating new identities or by attempting to assimilate what others they can find (LGBTQIA2S+, slavs are people of color, et cetera). This is what is happening to transgender people and, anecdotally based on current trends, what I suspect will happen in the future for anyone with a mental disorder.
Agreed
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 No.456497

>>456492
Your attempt to summarize my post resulted in missing the point completely. Good day.
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 No.456516

>>456387
>There's a lot of cis people who use plastic surgery in order to look better. But when trans people do it it's suddenly a big deal?
It's pretty revolting no matter who does it and feels like a mark of dishonesty to me. I only make exception for people who have been horribly disfigured in accidents and want to stop drawing attention to their disfigurements.
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 No.456517

>>456417
>Such roles are currently in the process of being rendered obsolete due to technological advancement
Not necessarily technological advancement, but more specifically the falling rate of profit/financialization that forced women into the workplace in the '80s. In the United States, anyway.
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 No.456518

>>456497
I didn't miss the point. The fact that reactionary conservatives and like liberals are opportunistically using gender as a political football doesn't really matter to what gender is and how people used it before it became a hobby horse for the western middle class.
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 No.456523

>>456492
>Should we just start hitting women if they step too far out of line as we would a man.
The problem with this argument is it assumes one barbaric standard of physical violence for men but places the standard for women somewhere else. No, we shouldn't be hitting men for stepping too far out of line either. We are not chimpanzees or even the same humans of 100,000 years ago and we don't need to live by their social rules.
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 No.456543

>>456518
No, sorry anon, you did miss the point.
>TL;DR, there's two different types of gender
>I have no problems deconstructing gender roles, and I agree that many expectations of either sex are unreasonable, but that doesn't make gender itself not real.
>The fact that reactionary conservatives and like liberals are opportunistically using gender as a political football doesn't really matter to what gender is and how people used it before it became a hobby horse for the western middle class.
I didn't write that fucking post to say "there are two definitions of gender because politics and also gender still isnt real LMAO"
You either didn't read it or you're still just responding to some fictional opponent that lives in your head.
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 No.456544

>>456543
I did read it homie, and what I said is just a generalization sheesh unbunch your panties.
You lay out your thesis here:
>I claim that there are two different types of people who are identified as transgender today.
The first type are those who are born as one sex, but strongly recognize themselves as another.
The second type are those who are comfortable with their sex, but find that the social expectations put upon them based on their sex do not accurately reflect their identity.
Like how are you gunna say I didn't read it, or that I'm starwmanning you?
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 No.456545

>>456544
*formatting bad
I did read it homie, and what I said is just a generalization sheesh unbunch your panties.
You lay out your thesis here:
>I claim that there are two different types of people who are identified as transgender today.
>The first type are those who are born as one sex, but strongly recognize themselves as another.
>The second type are those who are comfortable with their sex, but find that the social expectations put upon them based on their sex do not accurately reflect their identity.
Like how are you gunna say I didn't read it, or that I'm starwmanning you?
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 No.456546

>>456517
Perhaps, but how technology transforms labour is key, if only because the same processes occured in pre-capitalist society as well.
Even with the influx of female labour since the 80's, some work is still favourable towards male physiology (construction for example) and therefore contributes to the definition of what is and isn't masculine. On the other hand, programmers are mostly male but programming isn't considered particularily masculine, and consider how it was once a female-dominated career too.
>>456545
Did you also read the part where I said that from a materialist perspective on gender, both types of transgender person aren't really transgender at all?
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 No.456555

>>456492
SNIFFFFFFFF
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 No.456582

File: 1661646727882.png (6.22 MB, 3000x1680, ClipboardImage.png)

Sam Hyde won an influencer boxing match today and called out Hasan Piker after. But my question is: If Hasan accepts the challenge, who will he be fighting? Sam Hyde? The Candyman? Samuel Hydenko? Or Shamyiel Al-Hayadeen?

And more importantly:
He can't keep getting away with it!!
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 No.456584

>>456582
I am a boomer so I don't understand how this shit works, but, couldn't Hasan just fight himself? Is boxing really going the route of the WWE?
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 No.456586

>>456582
>memeing Sam Hyde
You have to go back.
>>>leftypol.org
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 No.456604

>>456586
<You have to go back.
<<<leftypol.org
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 No.456608

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 No.456615

>>456608
Think of all the stress being a nutcase like Alex Jones is out under
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 No.456621

>>456608
Wasn't Alex a bodybuilder at one time. Was it the roids that aged him?
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 No.456644

>>456621
I don't know if he was a body builder but he was fucking ripped when he was younger

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