>>455640>I read that Russian media reports
You base your opinion on western mainstream media disinformation ?>nobody cares about it even if it was true.
Well i do care about truth, you on the other hand, seem to be invalidating your opinion.>Okay how about fuck the US and Russia? no stance needed just screw them both.
The Us is imperialist but Russia is not, they are not the same. US foreign policy caused this war.>Russia is not the Soviet Union
Yes, Russia is more patient and restrained. The Soviets would have smoked Ukraine in 2014 when the US overthrew the Ukrainian government.>Yes it is and it is also imperialist and reactionary
Russia has a mostly commodity exporting economy, and it is in the semi-periphery of the imperial system, that means it is not imperialists in Marxist terms.>No they weren't Ukraine was no where near to joining NATO when Russia invaded
Not officially but nato integration of the Ukrainian military began 2014. This is very much a proxy war between the US and Russia.>why do you care if Russia balkanizes,
1. Russia is not neo-liberal, there is state control of big industries and state investment into industrial development, and compared to Russia in the 90s it is a big improvement for workers. If Russia were to be balkanized the resulting Russian fragment states would not be strong enough to resist US power and would go back to 90s level brutal neoliberalism. That means that the Russian state is a progressive force. Even if you are just a chauvinist from the core and only care about the workers in the core, if Russian workers are treated better, that also lowers the pressure for workers in the core, and they will not have to accept worse conditions.
2. Anti imperialist logic:
Russia being a much weaker capitalist power than the US, has to work with Socialist countries, While the US being the big hegemon is busy trying to stomp out everything to the left of neoliberalism. Look for example in the Crimea region and the Russia allied Donetsk and Lugansk People's republic there are communists and social democrats in political offices, while in West-Ukraine Communists are killed or in hideouts, and all the other opposition parties are banned.
The worst thing that ever happened to the international socialist movement was having a giant capitalist power reigning over the planet unopposed.>No it wouldn't have been the right move they had no reason to go to war with the Nazis,
Fascism is the arm of the most reactionary imperial finance bourgeoisie. The big bourgeoisie of that era wanted a Nazi Germany to throw it at the Soviet Union, in the hopes of destroying it in a war. (they probably wanted to destroy both Germany and the Soviets, to be honest).
It's a reasonable assumption that any socialist country faced with hard fascism on it's border will inevitably be invaded, so it's better to go on the offensive so you can set the terms of the conflict. >the Soviets would not have been able to push into the fascists anyway
that is true the Soviets weren't fully ready yet when ww2 started, but lets say that hypothetically the Soviet revolution happened much earlier and they were ready, then it would have been very prudent to invade Germany the moment the capitalists and some left-over feudal aristocrats installed Hitler in power. That would have resulted in a much shorter and less bloodier war.>I don't care
You don't care that West-Ukrainian Leftist were persecuted ?
You lack international solidarity.>the working class wants affordable gas prices cheap food not airstrikes on fascists
There won't be any affordable gas/food prices as long as the US is able to impose sanctions.
The ruling class in the US thinks like feudal elites, they want to starve the world (including US citizens) of food and energy as blackmail to get their way, and it won't stop unless somebody makes it stop. By the way the airstrikes that are raining down on (not exclusively) fascists in Ukraine are being conducted with mostly Soviet weapons and Soviet derived weapons, produced by the industrial base that Socialists initially set up. And you would be kidding your self if socialists would not have smashed a US puppet regime that collaborates with fascists.
Anybody that is serious about creating actually existing peace, talks about neutral countries between power-blocks.>Yeah no shit. We can't stand up to our bosses and if we were to go against the state it would be a failure.
I'm not sure i understand this, but i guess that yes it would be great if we could prevent the bourgeois factions that want to start wars including economic wars (which is what sanctions really are) from wielding any kind of state power.
There is no State (with a capital S) that wants anything, there are factions within the state that have objectives.
You aren't going against The State by opposing sanctions and war, you are just going against a specific faction.
I doubt that western leftist currently have the numbers, too many people are still stuck in imperial delusions of liberal world hegemony being a vehicle for any kind of progress. I think the rest of the world is going to break the US's sanctions-war mechanisms long before we get our shit together.
If you are a rightist social democrat that thinks they can get social democracy in the core by going along with imperialism, you are a moron. The imperialists are using up the resources and surplus of the core to pay for militarism and sanctions-war, they steal wealth from workers by inflation and austerity to pay for imperialism. If you want to improve the conditions for workers, that is going to come from reducing imperialism.
If you think that it is even remotely plausible the US will regain it's primacy and subjugate the hole world and all the workers in the core will become labor aristocrats, you are delusional. Look at the chaos they have caused when they tried to engage in "big power competition" against Russia. These people suck at their own game, they spend 8 years provoking a proxy war with a large industrial power while they de-industrialized the economy at home.
If they go against China who is a true industrial colossus without peers the consequences will shatter the west. They will continue to suck even if everybody in the core fell into line and repeated their propaganda. These people live in a distorted reality bubble that is so dense that even Russian artillery couldn't shatter their illusions of grandeur. These people will drag the west into the abyss.
For basic political literacy, you have to oppose anything that goes against your interests. If Sanctions cause your energy cost to go up and inflation is eating your spending power, you have to be opposed to it and everything that comes with it. This is the reality of politics in a capitalist system.