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>Three Mass Shootings in America during one weekend
>New York State
>Republicans will defend all of this… Somehow.

Out of curiosity, how many mass shootings have there been in all of Western Europe over the weekend? Or this month? Or for the entire year, for that matter? Any guesses?

It's time to ban the guns. I know. Radical concept.


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>It's time to ban the guns
Fuck off libshit. No the hecking gunerinos aren't the reason why mentally ill faggots go unchecked

<All our people are armed in the full meaning of the word. Every Albanian city-dweller or villager, has his weapon at home. Our army itself, the army of a soldier people, is ready at any moment to strike at any enemy or coalition of enemies. The youth, too, have risen to their feet. Combat readiness does not in any way interfere with our work of socialist construction. On the contrary, it has given a greater boost to the development of the economy and culture in our country.



What were the others even about? I know one was a poltard but were the others copycat?


This post glows, just like all the false flags.


The government kills way more people than mass shooters. Shouldn't they have to give up their guns first?


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Lol how did a lib find this place? Can't be a serious post, this has to be a troll. Only retards think that guns are the actual issue and not the underlying societal foundations that allow this type of hateful ideology to gain traction in the first place.


how many millennia we should wait til its gun-ready society ?


the albanian example is they're mussies its their culture and they know how to resolve it
or how to deal with issues


in america it was common to shoot blacks for fun
it isn't civilized country


>I know. Radical concept.
It's not radical, it's not going to the root of the problem.
Alienation caused by capitalist society is driving people over the edge.
A radical solution would be to improve society so that people aren't as alienated.

>It's time to ban the guns.

People willing to commit mass murder are probably also willing to commit other crimes like getting outlawed weapons.

>how many shootings in Europe

Well if you count the people getting shot in that war the CIA caused. A few hundred to a few thousands per day.
Europe should ban the CIA, it's causing really big mass-shootings.


What does this even mean? People have the right to bare arms. Cope.

Society has been gun ready its foundational social alienation that drives people to the point of being retarded skitzo pol posters not guns. Fix the alienation in the society making people crazy and there's no need to ban guns.

Its nature vs nurture.


>herp derp


just like how pathetic these arguments: "bro, not all society"


we don't have anything to do with them, just lock them in and that i mean that solves things rignt bro
not all humans


lets also ignore that we used to shoot up negro villages on holidays less than 100 years back


that happens to this day but yeah
thats police, not us


Lol not even close to a valid argument.
Liberals think to emotionally.


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Californoa shooter was a communist upholding Xi thought

The extreme left and right must both be disarmed


How did liberals find this place? Kek.
Post actual proof. This is more proof the guy was a Chinese nationalist not a communist you lying fucking faggot.


I got banned on ogre for saying that. Look the only real argument I ever get from leftists online is that one meme about Marx. Explain how having 9/10 guns in ameriga where the population is utterly retarded is a good idea. This is the equivalent of flooding a reactionary shit hole with weapons like glowies do in the middle east, but expecting somehow it will benefit communism lol. Guns in general are useless and antiquated now, modern warfare will make easy work of muh people's .45's. Just like the security guard to shot at the ny shooter got killed bcuz some retarded poljak had body armor.

The military has far more than just body armor, guns arent going to win a revolution, that is larp. Only mass support will and you dont need retarded amerifats with full autos for that


>A radical solution would be to improve society so that people aren't as alienated.

never gonna happen in a shithole like burgerstan

>People willing to commit mass murder are probably also willing to commit other crimes like getting outlawed weapons.

Thats the point of banning them, to make it hard for common retards to get the equipment they need

>Europe should ban the CIA, it's causing really big mass-shootings.

And you think glowies would be antigun in murica somehow? Glowies love spamming a country with guns to destabilize it, these kind of rightoid mass shootings only benefit glowies, hence why they knew about the spergy ny shooter and didn't stop him. Now it will cause more racial tensions in burgerstan which will take the heat off porkies and benefit the booj.


>Guns in general are useless and antiquated now,
Is that why the military and police have huge Arsenal’s?




I am sure a large portion of people would hand them over also sure that police would do their job. If an individual resisted local authorities could either disarm a person directly or through economic means (shutting down your bank accounts and getting you fired). Once the US goes completely cash-less it will be much easier for this to happen economically.


NEW YORK – New York Attorney General Letitia James today announced that her office is launching investigations into social media companies in connection with the terror attack in Buffalo that claimed 10 lives and wounded three individuals. The investigations will look into the social media companies and other online resources that the shooter used to discuss and amplify his intentions and acts to carry out this attack. Specifically, the investigations will focus on those ​platforms that may have been used to stream, promote, or plan the event, including but not limited to Twitch (owned by Amazon), 4chan, 8chan, and fbi.gov.

“The terror attack in Buffalo has once again revealed the depths and danger of the online forums that spread and promote hate,” said Attorney General James. “The fact that an individual can post detailed plans to commit such an act of hate without consequence, and then stream it for the world to see is bone-chilling and unfathomable. As we continue to mourn and honor the lives that were stolen, we are taking serious action to investigate these companies for their roles in this attack. Time and time again, we have seen the real-world devastation that is borne of these dangerous and hateful platforms, and we are doing everything in our power to shine a spotlight on this alarming behavior and take action to ensure it never happens again.”

>inb4 everything is shutdown


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The Buffalo shooter was not "red flaged" for one reason. USA law enforcement is a bunch of good ol boy far right extremist. His and his computer alone should have been back doored by NSA. And the moment he broadcasting his plans his door should have been kicked in by a law enforcement agency that currently does not exsist, one that invetigates htreats and prepares to prevent them from being carried out.


Damn, they don't sound like they're playing around this time.


artillery and drones are what wins modern warfare. guns are for police/counter-insurgency actions now




If they're so ineffective then the state should have no problem letting us keep them.
Police shoot way more people every year than mass shooters do anyway. Tell them to give up their guns.


>His and his computer alone should have been back doored by NSA. And the moment he broadcasting his plans his door should have been kicked in by a law enforcement agency that currently does not exsist

We shouldn't put backdoors into computers period. People use computers as extension of their brain these days. We are less creepy cyborgs. We just don't implant technology directly into the flesh. Even criminals get to have their own mental space.

When there are signs that somebody has a mental breakdown, that would lead them to go on a rampage, it might be that putting them into a deathmatch against the police isn't the best solution. Something with a lower body-count would be nice.


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Sorry, I did not mean to promote "bult in backdoors"
I should have said already exsisting 0-days should be used on those who are red flaged for threats of violence. Of course he was using spyware like fbi.gov and the government wouldn't have wasted thousands or millions revealing a zero-day to save Americans live from this one real stupid kid. New Yorks AG should resign along with every law enforcement member who failed to invoke the red flag law on someone who said something that caused others to contact law enforcement which detained and assessed that the dipshit was a high risk threat to society. The AG and LEOs should be charged with fired, lose their pension then charged with negligent homicide.


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I think we should tell software security people about known flaws in the code so they can patch it, not turn it into digital weapons. Look at the bigger picture, all these machines have to be reliable and predictable for the end users, or we're all going to be fucked. Your vendetta isn't worth throwing the concept of computer security overboard. Computers are very useful please don't ruin that. Ideally we'd have 100% of talented hackers work on improving the code, and 0% trying to break our computer infrastructure. If all the people who can hack work on improving computer security, computers will be perfectly secure. In the real world we want to get as close to that as possible.

These shootings are the result of structural problems in society, you can't fix it with the police. Just think about it, you want to break into people's minds, and then determine if they are a threat (which on it's own will create more enemies, because people really hate having their minds violated) and then you want to send storm-troopers to kill them, based on some mode of judgment, that has a really good chance at turning into random state terror. You're also going to sacrifice many of these storm troopers. Instead of trying to solve social problems you pit people against each other into a fight to the death. Why do you think the police doesn't intercept the shooters even if they know about it. It's simple, they don't want to be gunned down either. You can rage about increasing internal police discipline measures all you want, but they will still avoid it, because getting shot is worse.

You might even create a new type of shooting. People who wanna go out in a burst of gore, will arm up, prepare a battle arena and then bait your enforcement system into sending them a bunch of gladiators. The system will also be abused for assassinations and that will turn the police into predators in the eyes of people. When people are threatened by predators they can't fend off easily, they set traps. Angry grandma with a pipebmb will will beat your attack squat in a set-up. It could even turn into a cyber-dystopia-betting-sport.

If you are going to make the police do horrible things it's going to become even worse than it already is, because normal sensible people won't join your police-force, you'll get psychos who like having petty-tyrant powers over others and like to inflict harm. And that's also going to be the people who police the rest of society. Always itching for an excuse to use violence.

You have to start thinking about how you improve the social environment so people don't grow up into mass-shooters. To gain any utility from punitive measures, you ought to go after those who benefit from this mayhem. Because they are likely the ones that are perpetuating it. If there are people who profit off mass-shootings, you can bet your ass they will find a way to keep it going.

If you create a society with a solid social foundation, you can use the police to maintain it. But you cannot use the police to compensate for a society without a good social foundation.


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That's really the difference between liberals and us is we want to systemically change and alter the foundations of our society that result in things like people getting shot up and liberals want to (playing in tune to the capitalist system of competition) pit people against one another and see who comes out on top.

It's all pretty disgusting.


How many mass-shootings happened before and after freeing uyghurs and allowing faggotry?
How many happened before and after they put different chemicals in our water or Operation MockingBird?
How many happened before and after WW2?


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Take your meds chud


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>The freeing of uyghurs



stop being bitch and answer mr left guy


Not h! But it's a completely retarded question that doesn't even deserve an answer. What does it have to do with anything?


The association of socialism with left-liberalism has been a disaster for the human race.

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