/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>455410
The Soviets come off as very competent villains in that show, tho.
Spoilers ahead:
The Soviets managed to build a giant underground research compound in the middle of America without the US government noticing, during the height of the cold war no less, i kinda wished thy explained how that happened. Nobody noticed the heavy burrowing equipment ?

I thought the monsters were representing neoliberalism breaking down postwar social democracy. They explicitly say in the show that the ultimate end-boss is basically a fascist race supremacist alien from the decay dimension that wants to enslave humans as a lesser race

I know nothing about esoteric stuff but the monsters do look a little like the Corpse Lilly which is a giant flower that grows as a vine parasite.

>>455413
Op here. I don't actually know if it's a deliberate attempt to uphold such esoteric beliefs, but the series certainly do bring about some essential elements of it.
Either way, it would be interesting to talk about the ideological implications of Stranger things and other series.
The boys also has the idea of child experiments bringing superpowers. These are all pop culture representations of the MK ultra experiments, which seem to be more and more common these days

>>455413
I believe the soviets did it through the shopping mall construction, it's literally the same building

>>455413
To me the main vilan immediately rung the bell to the Unabomber, which was also a victim of MK ultra. Though he was not a anti humanist

>>455414
>I don't actually know if it's a deliberate attempt to uphold such esoteric beliefs
Yeah maybe they are just copying ideas for the monster exploitation part of the show.

>the ideological implications of Stranger things
It doesn't have much explicit ideological content, they talk about the mall as a bigger capitalist displacing petty bourgeois shops. They ruled out a military solution to the monster problem. One of the side characters (the little sister of one of the main protagonists) is saying that she is a capitalist, but then she wants to trade her ability to crawl through small vents for ice-cream, which would make her a worker that is being payed in commodities. She says she wants to be a capitalist but then she doesn't even try to get any capital. I don't know if that was a deliberate ideological statement or not.

They are also saying that electro magnetic fields propagate through dimensional membranes based on how all the lights react, but they also say that gravity does not propagate through dimensional membranes, based on the scene with the towel-rope. Scientifically speaking we don't really know, but most physicists seem to think it's the other way around. They have science advisors in the show because they explain how electromagnets work, and how magnets can be demagnetized, which makes me wonder if the dimensional field bleed-through theory is intentionally inverted.

The big soviet machine that can open gateways in to the other dimension looks like a big mechanical voltage multiplier that is coupled to a big magnatron. So they are trying to microwave a hole into the fabric of the universe ?

>>455414
>The boys also has the idea of child experiments bringing superpowers.
It's science-magic because these superpowers use too much energy, even if they had an organ that could make the energy, they would cook them self from all the heat that would release.

In The Boys show they basically are saying that super-powers have fascist origins, but they are also comparing the superhumans to the gods of antiquity. Maybe the makers of that show want to point out the similar themes in these ideas.

I don't know about the implications. Eugenics was invented by pseuds to justify class society, they weren't competent scientists, so that part of the show is a bit iffy. But they also do link corporations to the Nazi past, and that part is correct, the corporate sector was heavily involved in fascism, and i wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't retained or reinvented fascist ideology.

The connection is that both are obsessed with nostalgia. The trauma of the 80s potentially promised by the ideological outlook of the time. There was a lot of innovation happening after microchips and it led to the birth of the late 70s early 80s futurism. Blade Runner, Star Wars, Robocop. The way people talk about how we got all the boring parts of the cyberpunk future dystopia with none of the flying cars. Growth stagnated and living standards dropped.

It's all an attempt to form a cohesive narrative between where society seemed to be going, to where it ended up now. To keep repeating the past until it's properly symbolized.

>>455444
>It's all an attempt to form a cohesive narrative between where society seemed to be going, to where it ended up now. To keep repeating the past until it's properly symbolized.
Can you explain what that means repeating until it's symbolized ?

Didn't the same shit happen with Taylor Swift previously? Maybe I don't get it but it seems like fascists have an odd relationship with unremarkable female pop stars in general.