The Russia and Ukraine war is just the next Israel/Palestine really. What I mean is for the working class especially in foreign countries this conversation on who to support Russia or Ukraine is bullshit. How could the working class decide to support one o

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Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 00:12:17 No.457237

The Russia and Ukraine war is just the next Israel/Palestine really. What I mean is for the working class especially in foreign countries this conversation on who to support Russia or Ukraine is bullshit. How could the working class decide to support one or the other? Well in truth it is not for the working class to to support or choose nations, fascism, democracy, or any other political form; how could this opposition organize itself? In fact how the hell could the Ukrainian proletariat oppose Russia? Or the proletariat of the West oppose NATO? The working class is in fact not a political body at all, they cannot make final judgement on these issues.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 00:16:15 No.457239

I also made this thread partially because of the retarded war in the other Ukraine thread. Where if you don't support one side you must be an evil anti-reddit tankie! Or you are a liberal NATO America bootlicker! these people cannot be taken seriously. They looked at me as a child I even got moralized by some idiot.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 00:41:25 No.457242

>>457237
No, fam. This isn't like the Israel-Palestine conflict. The Ukrainian proletariat is fighting Russian Proletariat over the ambitions of a single man, and against the wishes of even the Russian capitalists. Do not worry, though. Russia is going to lose, and lose badly.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 00:57:35 No.457243

>>457242
How could the Russian proletariat have opposed Putin?
>Do not worry, though. Russia is going to lose, and lose badly
I think it is more likely we'll see a stalemate.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 01:25:09 No.457244

>>457243
That's not to say the Russian performance in the war hasn't been pathetic.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 01:37:19 No.457245

>>457243
There are reports of RF soldiers looking to surrender in the Kherson region, and Russia has stopped shipping soldiers into UKR and is now recalling some. It's over, anon.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 02:10:13 No.457249

>>457245
Well we will see. This operation has been a failure for the Russians.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 05:36:23 No.457260

>>457242
>The Ukrainian proletariat is fighting Russian Proletariat over the ambitions of a single man
idealist great man theory garbage

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 13:31:33 No.457266

>>457260
Individual actors can do bad things and it doesn't make it great man theory. If a single US president decided to give a nuclear launch and end humanity as we know it, he would definitely be the one changing history, but it doesn't make it great man history, since the mechanisms for him to do that were already there. Putin himself could end this war, but won't. You don't understand what is said by great man theory of history. You're just a fucking retard.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 14:21:37 No.457267

>>457260
It was Putin's gamble to invade Ukraine. Putin gambled again just like he gambled with Georgia, Crimea, the separatist republics.

Leftytrol 2022-09-13 (Tue) 14:34:02 No.457269

Good poast.

People in the west who take a side in far off hot conflicts and get emotionally attached to it come across as sports fans.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 15:54:11 No.457271

>>457260
This.

Anonymous 2022-09-13 (Tue) 22:11:40 No.457272

>>457260
There are powerful men that singlehandedly make things happen. The problem was that all of history was explained like this.

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