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 No.459044[Last 50 Posts]

MAGA Communism is the future of American Communist movement because the MAGA movement itself is in many ways proto-communist. It is by far the largest and most powerful anti-establishment movement in the US. Anti-establishment democrats have immediately cucked out when elected (AOC and Bernie Sanders in particular), and while grifters like DeSantis try to appeal to the MAGA movement they cannot inspire the same populist energy that Donald Trump did when he promised to end foreign wars and bring back jobs. "Peace, Land, and Bread" if you will. Regardless of if Trump is a corrupt fuck or not seriously investigating the reasons behind why his movement has basically defined American politics since 2016 should be a priority of Communists.

MAGA Communism is necessary for reaching the masses - even those that don't like communism right now! Rejecting much of the American people for believing in MAGA results in making communism an edgy thought to be consumed by university students and other idiots.

"Out of the movement, into the masses."
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 No.459045

Explain maga communism to me.
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 No.459047

>>459044
We have this thread every day, comrade.
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 No.459049

>>459045
it is the real anti-imperialist and communist movement even if it doesn't know it yet. It is the job of Communists to understand this movement and guide it in the right direction - guys like DeSantis can't be allowed to distort a populist movement into something else.

"Peace, Land, and Bread" was the slogan Lenin used and America needs something similar. "Make America Great Again" conveys a lot of the same energy Lenin's slogan did, especially in America's current political climate.
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 No.459052

>>459049
I mean, guide them how though? Like are we going to usurp the maga movment? I am all about reaching out but I dunno that seems like a tall order.
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 No.459055

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>>459044
Read Marx man. Especially the part in the communist manifesto where Marx shits all over revolutionaries and reactionaries teaming up.
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 No.459059

>Contemporary tankies are so fucking pathetic their last hope is to disregard any notions of “socialism” entirely and tying their fate to the Trump movement
Pathetic
Tankies really are a fucking joke
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 No.459060

Based op

Lonely fbi.gov addicted leftypol refugeefags masquerading as r r r revolutionary, btfo.

You can tell this is effective by how much it makes moral grandstanders seethe. The fags needs to 'feel' right but objectively 'do' absolutely nothing, anyways.

You're doing god's work. Keep it up
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 No.459061

>>459060
>Catering to fash-adjacent elements irritated you, I must be onto something.
Are you on winter break right now anon?
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 No.459062

>>459061
Back to leftypol
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 No.459063

>>459062
>anyone who disagrees with me is from leftypol
Sage this thread in every field.
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 No.459064

File: 1665809629409.jpg ( 102.42 KB , 828x977 , IMG_20221015_035007_483.jpg )

Comrade Trump does not support stageism
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 No.459065

>>459044
>MAGA Communism is the future of American Communist movement because the MAGA movement itself is in many ways proto-communist
The MAGA movement was started by a billionaire ultra capitalist.
>It is by far the largest and most powerful anti-establishment movement in the US
Nope they literally are the establishment, the entire republican establishment has converted to MAGAism
>Anti-establishment democrats have immediately cucked out when elected (AOC and Bernie Sanders in particular)
<electing Trump isn't voting for the establishment
Nope nope and nope.
>and while grifters like DeSantis try to appeal to the MAGA movement they cannot inspire the same populist energy that Donald Trump did when he promised to end foreign wars and bring back jobs
Trump was still drone striking shit and almost started a war with Iran early 2019/2020, also no jobs in the rust belt were brought back and the industry was not brought back. The working class that voted Trump was lied to.
>Peace, Land, and Bread" if you will.
Trump is a capitalist billionaire btw not like Lenin.
>Regardless of if Trump is a corrupt fuck or not seriously investigating the reasons behind why his movement has basically defined American politics since 2016 should be a priority of Communists.
Who are you state the priority of communists. What is even the priority of communists? American politics will always be defined by capitalists and liberals, the American state will always be capitalist and liberal. Revolution is the answer not some shitty "go and vote Trump!" shit.
>MAGA Communism is necessary for reaching the masses - even those that don't like communism right now! Rejecting much of the American people for believing in MAGA results in making communism an edgy thought to be consumed by university students and other idiots.
NO it is not necessary to reach the masses. And you don't get to decide what is and what is not for the communists. Leftists don't need to hike on the back of an asshole capitalist tycoon to get our message out, this is the true defeatism. This is really the most prime example of defeatism, when you self willingly enslave yourself to a capitalist movement and group.
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 No.459066

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>>459065
forgot pic
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 No.459067

>>459066
Ummm. Based truckers ftw
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 No.459068

>>459065
lol do we have our own sage now? This can't be the original sage
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 No.459069

>>459068
Nope. 1 guy who sages everything.

If only everyone else would shut up and listen to him, we'd have fully automated space luxury communism by now.

Leftypol does not send their best
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 No.459072

>>459068
I'm not.
>>459069
I'm not from leftypol either. Anyone disagrees with you and you think they're from leftypol. And yet you complain about echochambers on .org or whatever but you want one to form here.
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 No.459074

>starts crying and shitting himself when anyone disagrees
Yeah and this is fine lol, but any serious posts should be ignored and shit on with no effort. Why even put any effort.
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 No.459076

>>459074
That's a good question, and something I've been wondering myself

Why have you been putting in so much effort?
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 No.459078

>>459072
Dude based, lmao we spawned a new sage fellas
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 No.459080

>>459078
Magacoms can't stop winning
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 No.459081

>>459080
I think some of the shit haz talked about was way off the mark and dumb but yeah he's doing the right thing redpilling magapeeds and shit.,
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 No.459082

>>459081
Agreed tbh
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 No.459172

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MAGAComs

>Handsome nationalist, gymbrosocialist
>Patriotic
>Talks to normal everyday people
>Makes panties wet
>Leftychan, Telegram, Matrix
>Tanned and juicy
>Has read Marx, doesn't act condescending to people who haven't
>Thinks it would be fun to smoke a joint with Jimmy Dore
>Wants to unite truckers with service workers
>Committed to freedom
>Fresh ideas
>Not really concerned with debating weirdo, do nothing MAGAhaters online

MAGAhaters

>Dysgenic, vitamin d deficient
>'Lets organize the workers by telling them to hate their country'
>Doesn't have irl friends, hates their own family
>Wears panties
>Leftypol, Reddit, fbi.gov
>Reads the communist manifesto once, starts using 'read Marx' as an argue against people who are far better read and more experienced than them
>Hates Vaush, agrees with him on 95% of issues
>Gets off by starting drama
>Identifies with their own thoughts and opinions, slave to their own mind
>'No, Jeff Bezos and the porkies are lying with all their DIE/ESG messaging. But I really do stand for equality and inclusiveness'
>Spergs out, mass reports, and demands you answer their constant allegations of ideological transgression
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 No.459186

>>459172
I think one issue is that leftists today equate understanding the history of the country with hating the country or negating the concept all together.
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 No.459187

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>>459186
Tbh, even most historycel leftists have a pretty shallow and limited view of history, combined with vapid enlightenment morality

>America was built on conquest and slave labor!!

<Which country wasn't prior to 1800?

I love how Mongolians still stan Genghis Khan. They would think Americans are pretty big fags for taking down Columbus statues.
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 No.459193

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What would john fetterman think of magacommunism?
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 No.459204

>>459193
You lost me at 'Fedderman think'
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 No.459206

>>459204
What? Why are you guys so against these people, kek
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 No.459207

>>459206
Have you actually looked into this guy's background or seen his present state?
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 No.459225

>>459172
>Handsome nationalist, gymbrosocialist
post body
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 No.459228

>>459225
Suck Pasquale's ladydick
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 No.459231

>>459207
Yeah, I mean, the guy he pointed the gun at endorsed him it was a simple misunderstanding stop believing the media on this shit. Also his healthy, he had a stroke, that doesn't mean he can't do his job.
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 No.459232

>>459231
His parents supported him into his 50s and he's never had an actual job in his life. That's on top of him being a mushbrain.

Democrats like vacuous marionettes that can be tugged along to whatever side 'the narrative' demands this month.
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 No.459234

>>459232
>his parents supported him into his 50s

No one on this board has any room to talk tbh. Will he fix our broken labor laws to some extent?{ Lower my taxes? protect my gun rights? protect abortion rights? His policy are all that matters
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 No.459247

>>459062
>Just straight up lying about where he's from.
A tankie I take it?
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 No.459263

>>459247

Back you go! Tell Pask I said hi
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 No.459270

>>459263
>It's the .ogre pretending to be a leftychad again.
What will you say when Russia collapses a second time.
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 No.459272

Since I'm not spastically spamming this place about it and in the midst of a histrionic episode, I'll probably yawn
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 No.459273

>>459272
Well this just goes to show how little tankies care about the human lives they destroy.
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 No.459275

>>459273
Tankies don't force you to be a miserable fag
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 No.459276

>>459275
Whoa there buddy, cool it with the homophobia.
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 No.459279

>>459276
Back to leftypol!
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 No.459282

>>459279
Homophobia is not cool.
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 No.459283

>>459055
To me, liberals are the real reactionaries. It doesn't seem possible to work with them.

Also can you point me to the part you're talking about?
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 No.459284

>>459282
A whole image board of people who agree with you

>Leftypol.org
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 No.459286

While mentally ill fags larping as revolutionaries dig their heels in to cry online, the MAGAcommunism win train keeps chugging right along
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 No.459312

>>459283
Probably because you were a regular polyp before Soviet memes made you into a red polyp
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 No.459313

>>459283
Of course you would think thst, you're a fash sympathizer.
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 No.459319

Chugga chugga chugga chugga
Chugga chugga chugga chugga

chooo chooooooo
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 No.459451

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https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qk4b/what-the-hell-is-magacommunism
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 No.459453

>>459451
Can't believe this shit made it to vice
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 No.459455

>>459453
Best article they've put out in a decade tbh
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 No.459457

>>459453
I can, Vice is clickbait trash.
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 No.459459

>>459457
Imagine being part of a political movement that gets attention and has people talking about it
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 No.459461

>>459451
our boy is climbing to the top..
and I can see Lenin and Stalin in Haz and Chairman Trump..
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 No.459476

>>459313
Fascism is the highest stage of liberalism.
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 No.459511

>>459476
It's actually the end stage of settler-colonialism. Which is why so many Republicans cotton to it so easily.
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 No.459513

The only thing that MAGAcommunism gets right is in rejecting the belief that the republican party is antithetical to a working class movement. Both parties are bourgeois parties but have historically had elements which at one time or another favored one or more sections of the proletariat. It is possible for the republican party to make a leftward turn, just like the democratic party did during the great depression.
But it should be plainly obvious to contemporary communists that allying with either bourgeois party would be a grave mistake. MAGAcommunism would be little more than a stupid meme were it not for a couple interesting questions it brings up. It's a sort of "cognitive bomb" like fully automated luxury communism.
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 No.459518

ITT: dumbfucks who don't want to make proletarian internationalism great again
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 No.459519

>>459518
That's kind of a simplistic interpretation
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 No.459525

>>459518
How do you have internationalism without nations?
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 No.459527

>>459525
Internationalism….in struggle against capital. Goal is no borders or nations
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 No.459530

>>459527
Internationalism: between nations
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 No.459531

>>459530
Right but from the communist perspective that isn't the end goal.
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 No.459532

>>459531
I don't say this often, but that's kinda a retarded goal
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 No.459548

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 No.459583

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MAGAcommunism is now being suppressed by Big Tech and its lackeys in the idpol cultleft.
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 No.459600

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 No.459611

More like #CacaCommunism amirite
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 No.459630

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 No.459632

>>459630
>China has no homeless people
<t. "I've never been to China"
ebin
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 No.459633

>>459632
You are literally retarded if you think the rate and level of homelessness in China compares to the US
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 No.459634

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>>459630
>>459633
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population
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 No.459635

>>459634
Tell me anon, why does China have a high homelessness rate?
Do you think that homelessness in China might be different than in the United States?
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 No.459637

>>459635
>You most be insane to think homelessness in China is even comparable to America!
<*Posts proofs that it’s literally fucking worse
>Uhhhhh have you ever considered that being homeless in China is actually cool and fun?
Tankies irl
What a bunch of stupid fucking clowns
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 No.459639

>>459637
…what the fuck are you talking about?
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 No.459640

>>459634
Source for that number of the wiki page is a broken link
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 No.459649

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>>459640
Nope
>>459634
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_homeless_population#cite_note-12
https://web.archive.org/web/20160930015343/http://gbtimes.com/life/homelessness-china
>“In 2011 there were 2.41 million homeless adults and 179,000 under-aged homeless individuals and kids," says Cheng Fucai, Associate Professor at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, "these numbers are quite high, and national policies catering to helping these individuals have led to some progress already. In particular, efforts done for kids are especially obvious and there has also been a higher level of concern for homeless kids in society.”
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 No.459650

>>459649
Okay, nice try. Let's actually read this article

>At the crux of the matter is the Hukou – household registration papers held by every Chinese citizen linking them to their birth province. Chinese people can only claim benefits, education and health care from their Hukou province, which is often nonexistent in rural areas and means migrants working in the city have absolutely no social support.
>So what has the government put in place for these kinds of homeless people? According to Cheng Fucai, Shelters have been established and there are outreach stations which actively look for homeless adults and kids:
<“If they are willing, they will be brought to the shelters where they will be provided with free food, a place for sleeping, and if necessary, medical and psychological assistance as well. In accordance with national stipulations for homeless under-aged, they will also receive psychological and cultural counseling. Staff at the shelters will also actively look for the kids’ guardians and families through the help of the local police security bureau. As for homeless adults, free train tickets will be provided for them to return to their families. Finally, hotline numbers are also set up for people to report any homeless adults and kids they see in the streets who need help.”
>A more sympathetic approach
>China’s traditional approach to managing the homeless has been to detain them and then send them back to their hometowns. However, over recent years the government’s mindset has been changing and in a seemingly more sympathetic approach they have been setting up shelters offering basic necessities.
>However, although China has a long way to go to cope with the swelling ranks of its destitute, it is looking for alternatives to the Hukou and trying to amend the country’s social security. But until then, communist ideologies are made a mockery of every time another picture related to homelessness makes the news.

Compared to the impoverished urban hellscape that is part of many American cities
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 No.459651

>>459650
>The US has no homeless shelters or homeless help services.
<This is a Chinese innovation.
ebin
https://endhomelessness.org/homelessness-in-america/homelessness-statistics/state-of-homelessness/
>In January 2020 , there were 580,466 people experiencing homelessness on our streets and in shelters in America.
>The nation has a system of temporary shelters that reaches 354,000 people on a given night.
>Homeless programs and systems provide shelter for most people experiencing homelessness (61 percent in 2020 ).
>Overall, homeless services systems have actually increased their capacity to serve people. As illustrated in the below visualization (Permanent vs Temporary Bed Inventory Trends, 2007-2021), systems have been steadily growing their available bed numbers. However, they have been increasingly focusing their resources on permanent housing rather than temporary shelter. Thus, more and more people may be benefitting from housing and services, but an increasing share is living in permanent housing as opposed to languishing in temporary shelters. Further, growth in overall bed numbers is likely failing to keep pace with the number of new people entering homelessness, and specifically unsheltered homelessness.

>Compared to the impoverished urban hellscape that is part of many American cities
As opposed to the impoverished urban hellscape of many Chinese cities? You don't unironically think all Chinese live like the Shanghai/Beijing real estate and industrial tycoons do you? Lol. Ask me how I know you've never been to China.
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 No.459652

>>459651
Pic of homeless tent city in china?
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 No.459655

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>>459652
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dcmaster/3321903786/in/photostream/
>Migrant workers temporary Camp Shenzhen China
>Homeless workers makeshift camp from scrap materials. Typically labourers or scavengers to collect recyclable materials to sell
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 No.459656

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>>459652
https://www.flickr.com/photos/varlamov/13724680883/in/photostream/
>Chinese homeless people, Beijing
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 No.459657

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>>459652
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 No.459659

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 No.459660

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>>459655
>>459656
>>459657
>>459659
Most of those are people living in semipermanent structures, not strewn about of urban sidewalks. In your last pic, they look downright happy having dinner as a family tbh, obviously have a means to cook, have a motorbike it looks like

Meanwhile, Venice, Minneapolis, and (checks notes) Akron.
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 No.459663

>>459660
>Most of those are people living in semipermanent structures,
These tents >>459655 aren't anymore "semipermanent" than these ones >>459660
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 No.459671

>>459663
I guess the difference is that Chinese people have the sense to clear homeless from out of city centers where they create a massive nuisance for everyone
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 No.459678

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>>459655
>>459656
>>459657
>>459659
dengoid got btfod lmao

<b-b-but this is akshully socialist homelesness!!1
frome the same people who brought you "socialist unemployment"

that Real Estate Bubble not lookin good dengoids tbh, not looking good I tell you..
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 No.459687

>>459678
Doesn't china have a dramatically lower average of homelessness than the united states? Let's look at that. That is what really matters.

Also,I thought housing was nationalized in china? I'm not defending Xi but this is just what I understand
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 No.459690

>>459687
>Doesn't china have a dramatically lower average of homelessness than the united states? Let's look at that. That is what really matters.
Lol >>459634
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 No.459705

>>459690
>>459690
You realize both of those are less than 1% of the population right?
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 No.459716

>>459678
>that Real Estate Bubble not lookin good dengoids tbh, not looking good I tell you..
They actually made the same stupid mistake that both the US and Japan did and juiced their GDP numbers with huge real estate projects that there's no demand for.
Except they took the fraud one step further and took money on homes and projects that weren't even finished.
There's no way Xi will be able to stop this.
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 No.459854

MAGA Communist who idolizes Qasem Soleimani and condemns the US assassination of him while supporting Trump.
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 No.459995

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 No.459998

File: 1667313303553.jpg ( 1.17 MB , 1080x2131 , LeopardsAteMyFace-yimejd.jpg )

>The right is turning on Ben Shapiro for being Jewish.
Haz is next kek.
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 No.460000

>>459998
Stay on reddit
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 No.460011

>>460000
So you're saying the party that cheered on the slaughter of a quarter million Muslim civilians won't lynch this one?
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 No.460012

>>460011
You're equating Trump and Maga with the Republican Part establishment.

This is why no one likes the left besides other insipid disingenuous fags
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 No.460013

And what does crying about Iraq have to do with building socialism exactly?

Nothing.

It's about being a preening faggot who wants to make themselves feel better by placing themselves atop some fake moral hierarchy.

Back to reddit
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 No.460015

>>460012
>You're equating Trump and Maga with the Republican Part establishment.
The people that voted for Trump voted for Bush
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 No.460016

>>460015
Go back
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 No.460017

>>460013
>And what does crying about Iraq have to do with building socialism exactly?
I don't think you can build socialism with people already have the blood of 100's of thousands of innocent civilians all in the name of American Imperialism.
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 No.460018

>>460017
Go back. Liberal PMC losers will be gulaged under socialism
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 No.460019

>>460017
Socialism for you sounds like a fantasy of a faggy moral hierarchy, not a class arrangement.

Take your salty ass back to reddit and whatever gourmet coldbrew coffee shop you prefer.

You have no connection to the American masses. You have even less, despite your faggot pretensions, to the Iraqi masses.
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 No.460021

>>460017
>Socialism is a dick measuring contest between white liberals over who hates america more. The more liberal and america hating, the more socialism
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 No.460028

>>460018
>Liberal PMC losers will be gulaged under socialism
Most of Trump's base are petite booj.
>>460019
>Socialism for you sounds like a fantasy of a faggy moral hierarchy, not a class arrangement.
Because I don't trust a party that invaded 2 countries and killed 100s of thousands?
This is the party that took advantage of 9/11 to squelch all and I mean all dissent against the murder of workers and their children.
>You have no connection to the American masses.
The Republican party are an extreme minority. They'd be a regional party at best of it wasn't for voter suppression.
>You have even less, despite your faggot pretensions, to the Iraqi masses.
But the people that supported their slaughter do?
>>460021
>Socialism is a dick measuring contest between white liberals over who hates america more. The more liberal and america hating, the more socialism
Isn't the US the biggest impediment to revolution? Aren't Republicans the biggest supporters of tue military?
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 No.460029

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>>460028
>Most of Trump's base are petite booj.
The amorphous 'petty booj' that expands and contracts as needed to support the rhetorical ends of humanities students
>Because I don't trust a party that invaded 2 countries and killed 100s of thousands?
This is the party that took advantage of 9/11 to squelch all and I mean all dissent against the murder of workers and their children.
Conflating MAGA and the RNC establishment. Already covered this. You're a disingenuous millennial faggot, morality grifter, and idealist to boot.
>The Republican party are an extreme minority. They'd be a regional party at best of it wasn't for voter suppression.
Peddles DNC talking points. You really belong on reddit or grindr.
>But the people that supported their slaughter do?
More moral preening from fags with nothing to show but a a vapid opinion.
<Ascribe belief to wide swath of people. I don't have that opinion though. That makes me one of the good guys.
Apex fake and ghey
>Isn't the US the biggest impediment to revolution? Aren't Republicans the biggest supporters of tue military?
The ruling class is. Retvrn to reddit. Your fake moral outrage, idealism, and petty party shilling will find a better audience there.
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 No.460030

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>>460029
>The amorphous 'petty booj' that expands and contracts as needed to support the rhetorical ends of humanities students
No, as in the Marxist definition of someone that owns a business but still must labor.
>Conflating MAGA and the RNC establishment.
No, I'm conflating what the Republican base with what they did.
>Already covered this. You're a disingenuous millennial faggot, morality grifter, and idealist to boot.
Trump supporters are not new to the Republican party. These are the same voters that voted for Bush Jr. twice and kept the Iraq and Afgan wars going for 20 years.
>Peddles DNC talking points. You really belong on reddit or grindr.
No it's true, and has been going on since the Civil Rights Era.
>More moral preening from fags with nothing to show but a a vapid opinion.
Not trusting imperalists murders is moral preening?
<Ascribe belief to wide swath of people. I don't have that opinion though. That makes me one of the good guys.
>Apex fake and ghey
They have beliefs and have started wars. This is history.
>The ruling class is.
So the military invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for themselves?
>Your fake moral outrage, idealism, and petty party shilling will find a better audience there.
Yes, I do find killing 100's of thousands of people morally outrageous.
And I'm not going to trust them because you've decided that they're the salt of the earth even though they are a small minority.
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 No.460033

The American working class is practically nonexistent in US electoral politics. The closest you will get is some sections of support from the labor aristocracy for the progressive wing of the democrat party. The remaining workers, if they ever even vote, tend to have no loyalty to either party and vote pragmatically - and correctly so. Ultimately, any genuine worker's movement must be detached from either bourgeois party, but this applies more to the democrat party since that's what American communists have been tailing for decades.
A revolution in the imperial core must happen if the international working class is to sieze power. We need to take these matters more seriously. Something like MAGA Communism is obviously not self-critical enough in this regard, but neither are the myriad other forms of socialist politics in the west.
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 No.460036

>>460030
That's right, comrade. Tens of millions of people decide who to vote for based on which candidate promises to slaughter the most Muslims half a world away. Hyper intelligent, pristine souls like ourselves are the only thing redeemable about amerikkkka
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 No.460038

>>460036
Consider the fact that you seek an alliance specifically with US fascists and then consider you deserve to be hanged alongside them

I hope the stab you in the throat
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 No.460044

>>460038
Yes, those bad fascists who make 40k a year and live in run down homes must be defeated by an alliance between the 'revolutionary left,' google, and the DNC.
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 No.460045

>>460036
Pause for a second and breathe before you type.
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 No.460052

>>459172
u r just gay
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 No.460053

>>459453
spooks being promoted by other spooks, incredible!
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 No.460054

>>459531
>abolishing nations is the communist endgoal
lol shut the fuck up uyghur jew, get a job
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 No.460056

>>460044
These poor whites want to bring back Jim Crow just so that someone will be even poorer than them. They slavishly supported the most extreme Republican neoliberalism all in the name of getting the negro.
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 No.460057

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>Be Muslim
>Find regional minority party that killed 250k Muslims all based on racial animus and lies that were easy to see through.
>Declare these reactionaries "The REAL Proletariat" even though just several years prior they were howling for Muslim blood.
>DO IT FOR FREE.
Is #MAGACommunism some sort political cuckoldry?
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 No.460058

>>460056
If only those poor whites had a pure soul like you
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 No.460061

>>460057
>Cuckoldry.

Lol. Everyone knows that Third Worldists are the equivalent of male feminist pick me bois
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 No.460064

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>>460056
N ice spooks nerd
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 No.460070

>>460058
The majority of the working class is against the reactionary policies of Republicans. They wouldn't be anything more than a regional party without authoritarian voter suppression.
>>460064
No, the anti worker laws that Republicans passed are very real.
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 No.460073

>>460070
I think what you're forgetting is that the democratic party is also a reactionary party, also engages in voter suppression, and also does not have the support of the working class.
Communists for decades have wrongfully tailed the democratic party for years based on an illusion that it is somehow more progressive than the republican party.
Both parties are bourgeois parties that seek to contain, exploit and when necessary destroy the working class.
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 No.460075

>>460070
What the fuck is this crazy pivot? Are you legitimately retarded?
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 No.460078

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>>460073
There really isn't much of a "workers" movement in the United States, currently. Most of that was kneecapped during Nixon and Regan and Clinton. It's true that both parties are bourgeois parties and they will openly admit it, but, we would still have roe if Clintion would have been in office not trump. Dems are still marginally better on some individual issues like abortion. There's more potential in the dem base though as we can see through organizations like the DSA and many subsidiaries that exist under and beside it. But, you still should vote for dems because yes republicans are far far worse.
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 No.460082

>>460078
>But, you still should vote for dems
mask off moment
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 No.460083

You should vote with your bullets
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 No.460084

>>460082
What other options are there?

>>460082
Childish larping
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 No.460085

>>460084
>What other options are there?
A socialist movement that does not tail any bourgeois party. If it doesn't exist, then it's creation must be fought for. Simple as.
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 No.460086

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>>460084
>Childish larping!!
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 No.460088

>>460086
Now that's what I call voting.
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 No.460093

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>>460086
>WAAAAA NO MY IDEAS ARE RIGHT THEY JUST ARE OK!
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 No.460094

>>459055
Shouldn't we be judging people as reactionaries on a case by case basis not treating everyone like a monolith?
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 No.460102

>>460078
>It's true that both parties are bourgeois parties and they will openly admit it, but, we would still have roe if Clintion would have been in office not trump. Dems are still marginally better on some individual issues like abortion

Simp
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 No.460103

>>460070
>They wouldn't be anything more than a regional party without authoritarian voter suppression.

Ackshully, most people think you're a faggot but are just polite

https://youtu.be/GNs86NsevHI
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 No.460104

>>460102
Can you guys actually respond with something that isn't a personal attack?
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 No.460124

>>460104
>Useless fag
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 No.460126

>>460124
Lol, exactly
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 No.460129

>>460126
You don't deserve better at this point.
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 No.460135

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>>460129
ITT: Coping
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 No.460138

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>>460135
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 No.460142

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>>460138
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 No.460147

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>>460142
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 No.460151

>>460044
Not only do Trump supporters have a higher income than the average American, you can be poor and still be a fascist or sympathetic to fascism
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 No.460152

>>460085
Why are you promoting socialists ally with MAGA then? You mean you want a fascist political party to take power in America? Why shouldn’t you be shot, hypothetically?
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 No.460154

>>460151
Back to leftypol
>>460152
Spiteful weak wristed fags with poor genetics always make these sort of empty threads. Go back to stroking Pasquale's micropenis on leftypol
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 No.460167

>>460151
You can also be petty bourgeois and end up supporting socialism but this is typically the minority
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 No.460168

>>460152
>Why are you promoting socialists ally with MAGA then?
You are confusing me with other anons. I do not want an alliance with any wing of any bourgeois party.
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 No.460169

>>460168
Calling it an alliance is extremely dishonest. If you don't think we should at least reach out to people in right wing camps you're and ultra.
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 No.460171

>>460169
>Expecting honesty from the cultural identity left
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 No.460172

>>460169
Of course building a socialist base will require recruiting from non-socialist camps. I simply don't want to tail any bourgeois political movement since that's the exact mistake that leftists made with the democrats. We shouldn't even tail the workers for that matter.
MAGA and the Trump wing in general has a mostly suburban and rural petty-bourgeois base. Even the progressive wing of the democrats, which leftists fawned over until recently, is mostly urban petty-bourgeois and labor aristocratic. It's fair to consider recruiting from these camps, but our time will ultimately be better spent looking amongst the "apolitical", those non-voters and non-committal voters, since they are mostly working class.
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 No.460175

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>>460030
For people who are doing such as piss poor job of organizing 'the masses' (for anything that isn't a bankrolled DNC grift), you'd think you'd take some time to self reflect and figure out why your message fails to land. If you actually listened to working class people, it wouldn't be hard to figure out.

Pic related had over 1000 likes in a few hours
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 No.460184

Imagine allying with people who think you're a Satanic anti-white baby raping cannibal because you're leftist
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 No.460185

>>460184
Imagine not understanding the working class at all and instead substituting wild hyperbole, then wondering why youre irrelevant as a political force
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 No.460186

>>460184
Also, kinda sounds like a tactic admission that you've given up on the working class and are more willing to make alliances with the ruling class.

Then wondering why people perceive the left as allied with the ruling class.
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 No.460187

>>460185
>Imagine not understanding the working class at all
Imagine thinking the working class stars and ends at white republicans and imaging still being in denial that Q shit is practically on the border of mainstream, some shit you saw sprout on 8chan years ago if you were there now being known by people in congress
>then wondering why youre irrelevant as a political force
Oh so you're telling me to vote democrat now? The GOP opened its legs up an Overton window going further and further right, while dems spit leftists out
>>460186
>and are more willing to make alliances with the ruling class
Don't bring up fucking nerd ass debate terms if you're gonna do them yourself
>Then wondering why people perceive the left as allied with the ruling class.
Because they're brainwashed retards who think all black people are on welfare and automatically get into college, that fat lazy drug smuggling Mexican babies are stealing their babyfood, that every leftist college kid is simultaneously a rich white trustfund baby but also a lazy burgerflipper who can't get a job, because they don't think burger flippers are real working class people, because they think working class starts and ends at being an aesthetic, snake boots and pick up trucks, which is why they cocksuck people like Ted Cruz. 9 times out of 10 you're siding with some rich fuck baby boomer in the Villages in Florida rather than some poor duped miner in West Virginia.
They are disconnected from reality
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 No.460188

>>460187
You sound upset
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 No.460189

>>460154
>Uhhh uhhhh you’re faggot
Kill yourself
>>460167
>Uhhhh ackshually SOME pett bourgeois would support socialists!
Yea I’m sure the ones that wanted to hang Nancy Pelosi as a “secret communist” definitely would
>>460168
MAGA communism is mentally retarded red-brown shit, you and every Hazfag should have your genitals removed
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 No.460190

>>460189
Never once supported Haz nor MAGA communism. Cope and seethe.
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 No.460191

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>>460188
Yeah no shit faggot
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 No.460193

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>>460070
>No, the anti worker laws that Republicans passed are very real.
>laws
>real
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 No.460194

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>>460189
>the ones that wanted to hang Nancy Pelosi as a “secret communist”
How can you not think that liberals getting death threats for being "communists" is utterly hilarious?
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 No.460195

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>>460193
>Laws aren't material reality so they don't effect people at a material level
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 No.460197

>>460195
This but unironically. laws don't affect people. Men with guns and clubs who beat people and throw them into cages when they disobey do. Laws just codify the mandates of ruling class. They are a perceived legitimacy for violence, nothing more.
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 No.460198

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>>460197
Hang on I'm about to go kill my neighbor so I can get a new house cause laws aren't real….Laws give the mandates for those in power to obey. they don't just do it for no reason which is why laws are important and max stirner was a retard in this regard as some kind of law is going to have to exist for society to exist
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 No.460199

>>460194
It's more depressing than anything else. America is a mental illness
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 No.460201

>>460198
>Hang on I'm about to go kill my neighbor so I can get a new house cause laws aren't real…
You being too stupid to understand concepts is not an argument.
>Laws give the mandates for those in power to obey.
Oh, that is just precious! Say, do you know anybody who is looking to buy some real estate? My uncle just died and left me some bridge in San Francisco, and I have been trying to unload it.
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 No.460202

>>460199
I'm not the guy who thinks that just cause concepts don't literally exist in material reality means they aren't "real" kek.
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 No.460210

>>460202
I know, right? Imagine thinking things that are not real are not real!
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 No.460218

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MAGAMaoism is here
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 No.460284

>>460175
>Pic related had over 1000 likes in a few hours
How is that indicative of society at large?
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 No.460303

>>460284
You're right anon. It's transhumanists on fbi.gov who represent real life
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 No.460306

>>460303
>likes on social media are the real world
Come with me
And you'll be
In a world
Of pure imagination
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 No.460310

>>460306
>popular opinion isn't real!
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 No.460316

>>460310
>1000 likes
>popular opinion
Are you fucking retarded? Leftist tweets get fucking millions of likes, certainly more likes than reactionaries get. Right-oid YouTube comments easily get fucking thousands of likes, is that indicative? You sound like a hypocritical asshole telling people to "go outside and touch grass" When you're fucking using some obscure right wing tweet to fucking base all of society of off. Retard.
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 No.460345

>>460316
>Malding
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 No.460360

>>460194
The GOP's messaging for the past ~14 years means that ever since Obama took office is that every single Democrat, regardless of how square and corporate and conservative and bipartisan, is a radical blue-haired leftist beholden to the wild demands of the woke mob. There's no real difference between an ad against an AOC and an ad against a Josh Gottheimer. They'll just tie the conservative Dem to Bernie Sanders or whatever, same as they would do with a progressive, and go about their merry business.

In the 70s-2000s all Democrats were weak and effete and eggheaded and soft and naive, but post-Obama they are radical and socialist and dangerous.
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 No.460368

>>460360
>In the 70s-2000s all Democrats were weak and effete and eggheaded and soft and naive, but post-Obama they are radical and socialist and dangerous.
Why is this site filled with retards? radical socialists my fucking ass you retard.
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 No.460369

Trump and the GOP lost the midterms /pol/tards.
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 No.460371

>>460369
Instead it was just spectacle - Reps could have had a landslide victory if they just refocused their efforts to things that actually matter. High crime, funding ukraine, economy broke, state oversight etc
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 No.460372

Haz raped and killed a girl in 2020.
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 No.460374

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>>460372
Based
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 No.460378

>>460372
yeah no
Haz is still a virgin
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 No.460385

>>460371
No fucking way are they going to do that. Beyond the plain fact that the purpose of the two parties is to distract us from those very things, mentioning any of those things in more than a superficial manner is inviting the question, "What will you change to correct those things?" Of course, the real answer to that is, "exactly jack shit," and they can only throw up so many "social issues" smoke and mirrors before answering that question. It's best for them to just keep talking about silly bullshit non-issues like abortion rights and transhumanists grooming children. You have to remember that the goal of the two parties is not to defeat the other but to maintain the thin illusion of democracy.
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 No.460386

>>460385
Doubling down on abortion cost the republicans. Boneheaded move tbh. Insured bouebstate went blue and sent younger women, especially in red states, swinging toward the dems. Unironically done by Clarence Thomas in the name of anti-racism too.
(Many troons are goomers though, fr, and valorizing valorizing clear mental illness only increasing mental illness and it's associated social costs)

Whatever party starts focusing on bread a butter issues in a way that people understand will win. Health, prosperity, security. Really a no brainer.

Politico recent had an article talking about this conflict between retarded niche ideals vs winning by appealing to people, albeit from their own repugnant lib perspective.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/11/04/cocktail-parties-that-could-define-democrats-00064560
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 No.460398

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>>460386
>Whatever party starts focusing on bread a butter issues in a way that people understand will win.
They are not trying to "win" against one another. That is not their goal. Liberal electoral politics is professional wrestling–it's all about putting on a show of competition.

Think about it: what would "winning" for one of the major parties look like? The "winning" party would then be entirely responsible for enacting all of the policies that their bosses tell them to–policies that workers absolutely hate. No, the party actually wins when their own base blames the opposite party for all of the shitty boss-friendly policies even as they keep enacting those same policies themselves.
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 No.460402

>>460386
Really interesting article, I think any entryist candidate that ran locally on a platform of actually reducing state funding would do very well. The point shouldn't be for politicians to figure out a way for the state to solve these issues, rather getting the state to get out of the way (reduce taxes etc).
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 No.460480

Yo I was fine with MagaComm as discussed in the substack article but this weird fucking religious turn is fucking revisionism. Half of the fags on twitter acting like Lenin and Mao weren't extremely anti religion:

"i.e., to be an atheist, which every socialist is, as a rule." - Lenin

"Man created this foundation through practice… Obliged to submit to natural forces, and capable of using only simple tools, primitive man could not explain the surrounding phenomena and hence sought help from spirits. This is the origin of religion and idealism." - Mao

Along with some bizarre claims about materialism isn't physicalism, to wit I'd like to know a single materialist since the fucking Enlightenment who wasn't an atheist or cryptoatheist(Spinoza/Hobbes).
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 No.460481

>>460480
yes, you cannot trust a ML in that regard lest you become a 'useful idiot', unless the party you join makes an explicit exception in regards to religion, I guess an example would be CPUSA's 'bill of rights' socialism which gurantees freedom of religion, but whether demCent could just override it idk.
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 No.460504

Professor Wolff likens MAGACOMMUNISM to Nazis calling themselves socialists
Oh on Haz sisters, we got too cocky.
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 No.460505

>>460480
Religion is, at root, a transcendental philosophy centered around a big other. In this respect, Marxism has always been a secular religion

https://youtu.be/s7Aumd1TpZE

>>460504
Oh no. Prof fart snoz took a break from his busy academic/college speaking career to denounce MAGAcommunism. We'll never recover
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 No.460627

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>>460505
>Religion is, at root, a transcendental philosophy centered around a big other. In this respect, Marxism has always been a secular religion
What a load of tripe.
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 No.460629

>>460505
Take your meds
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 No.460635

>>460504
MAGA Communists is basically Strasserites 2.0, and, god willing, will suffer the same fate.
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 No.460644

>>460627
>Big other
History, the revolution, the masses
>Heaven
Communism
>Original sin
Class society, raycissm
>Microsects
Check
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 No.460646

>>460644
This is some dumb 9th "I am such a big boy ain" take and understanding of Marxism
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 No.460647

>Garden of Eden
Primitive communism
>Patron saints
Marx, Lenin, Mao
>Martyrs
Luxembourg, Che, Sankara
>Holy Trinity
Base, structure, super structure (ok, that one's a stretch)
>The point
Marxism is basically the sublimation of Christian slave morality into a secular, post enlightenment religion

>This is some dumb 9th "I am such a big boy ain" take and understanding of Marxism
Cope
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 No.460648

>>460647
the trinity can be the dialectic.
>thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
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 No.460649

>>460647
>slave morality
umm sweatie nietzsche was a proto-fascist.
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 No.460653

>>460649
Seven degrees of separation between any topic on leftychan and some random fag saying 'dats fashist'
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 No.460655

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>>460653
Pretty sure anon was joking, lol.


>>460647
what is actually funny is modern capitalist ideology actually tells you that being a slave to the whims of unaccountable authorities is good and in your own self interest and that you are week and stupid and deserve to be where you are.

It's literally cuck ideology and fits a lot better into the Nietzien mold of slave morality than marxism which says that it is up to the proletariat to take control of its own history and control its own fate and break free from the domination and exploitation of capital.
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 No.460681

Who is the bigger retard? The man sloshing around in a manure pit yelling how this is "da real movement" and everyone should do the same, or a virtue horder who runz around the manure pit and yell for all who would listen about how much mistaken the man in the manure pit is?

Just don't fucking start with magacoms. Arguably even a bigger batch of dipshits than the 8chan nazbols. And please, don't argue about how sloshing around in the mud pit (DNC) is the real answer.
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 No.460683

>>460505
>Oh no. Prof fart snoz took a break from his busy academic/college speaking career to denounce MAGAcommunism. We'll never recover
>It's no big deal that one of the premiere living Marxist academics in the world is calling MAGA Communism fascist.
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
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 No.460699

>>460683
>Typical member of the western left
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 No.460709

>>460699
>He thinks appealing to a proto fash party is cap so he's "western" Marxist.
I think I'm going to believe the scholar that actually cites history over a bitter reactionary that only casts aspersions.
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 No.460714

>>460709
More like major projection. Prof fart snoz gets to be a tenured professor with a full speaking calendar while pretending to be the systems biggest critic. It's a smoke and mirrors show and it's sad you fall for it.

Haz is certainly retarded, but people nasally insisting 'dats fashist' are fags.
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 No.460785

>>460175
You're a complete retard, trying to use a right-oid tweet with 1000 likes to base all of the opinions of the working class on.
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 No.460793

>>460785
Just pointing out that faggy cultural identity psuedo leftism is actually unpopular outside of the twig undergrad and PMC crowd. Sorry if that offends you
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 No.460808

>>460714
Trump candidates, who all just got shellacked in the midterms btw, are most definitely protofash.
The real proletariat has spoken, and they want MAGA crazies out.
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 No.460809

>>460808
>dats fashist
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 No.460811

>>460785
>>460793
both of you are right
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 No.460812

>>460809
protofascist isnt thr same as fascist chud
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 No.460853

>>460812
I'm sorry I don't quite understand the nuance underlying 'erythang I don like iz fashist.' can you please educate me?
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 No.460868

>>460853
Fascism typically describes an authoritarian, class-collaborationist capitalist state. Fascists usually present themselves as anti-capitalist, and gain their main base of support by appealing to national conservatives, who are most often found among the petty-bourgeois.
Trump isn't a fascist. He isn't a dictator, he's just another oligarch. He isn't anti-capitalist, especially since he's a capitalist himself. He isn't any more or less class-collaborationist than his peers. However, what Trump shares very closely with fascists is his base of support. The Trump wing of the republican party is overwhelmingly suburban and rural petty-bourgeois, and his rhetoric is a direct appeal to national-conservative sentiment.
In short, Trump is not a fascist, yet what Trump represents is a fascist base, hence it isn't a stretch to call him proto-fascist. Does this make sense to you, chud?
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 No.460869

>>460868
Sure, but didn't Mao also organize the rural population around a program of class collaboration?
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 No.460876

>>460869
I don't like Mao and view him as a reactionary in many respects, but I can't group him in with proto-fascists. Despite his criticism of Soviet doctrine, Mao, like Lenin, was still subject to semi-feudal conditions and had no choice but to contend with the peasantry. Furthermore, his rhetoric wasn't typified by appeals to national conservatism, and the cultural revolution is proof of his strong rejection of cultural traditions in China.
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 No.460901

>>460809
>republicans aren't protofascist
Shut the fuck up retard they absolutely are, really same with the democrats but republicans just straight up accept and peddle the Great Replacement theory.
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 No.460904

>>460901
>White people are bad and should be dispossessed
>Great replacement isn't real
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 No.460939

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It's only a matter of time before they lynch Haz kek.
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 No.461143

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 No.461144

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 No.461145

>>460901
I'm not calling anybody "fascist" until I hear a definition of "fascism" that applies to anything that happened after WWII.
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 No.461147

>>461145
Is this the same retard that thinks western imperialism never happened after 1947?
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 No.461148

>>461147
Who else thinks fascism can only exist in a 1930's political climate.
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 No.461149

>>460904
Yeah supporting and propagating conspiracy theories about the white race supposedly being replaced is totally not proto-fash at all.
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 No.461150

>>461148
You realize fascists can exist without fascism?
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 No.461151

>>460681
>muh don't argue with the trolls
You can criticize people fighting trolls all you want, it does not inoculate people from replicating its/their very nature.
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 No.461152

>>460809
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 No.461154

>>461148
It would sure seem like it.
>>461150
What makes them fascist if they don't claim to be? It's just another ill-defined identity.
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 No.461155

>>461147
Lel, "imperialism" is bullshit that doesn't describe anything that has happened in your lifetime. Cry more, victim.
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 No.461156

>>461154
https://researchanddestroy.wordpress.com/2017/02/20/the-landing-fascists-without-fascism/
>>461155
Right west-oid nobody has every been bombed or hurt by the western world since 1947, fucking retard.
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 No.461207

>>459044
>Falling for that retard Haz.

Seriously "MAGACommunism" is nothing but a grift to feed Haz's ego. Everythibg Haz does is to get attention and grow his brand.
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 No.461208

>>460175
1000 likes is nothing. That's like the size of one small town. Twitter is not indicatave of reality but a filter bubble that you're stuck in.
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 No.461215

>>461207
Anybody who unironically fell for the MAGAcommunism shit is not a human being.
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 No.461222

>>461156
Oh, so now "imperialism" is when bombs fall! Then every country that has waged war in the last century is "imperialist." Oh, or maybe it's when a foreign army does it? Like Lenin invading Poland. But he was supporting the freedom fighters! No where have I heard that one before?

But war isn't really Lenin's "imperialism" despite your pearl-clutching victimhood. No, the theory of imperialism is that it is, by means of force (as if there were any other way to keep capitalist production going), funneling value from one PLACE to another PLACE where it is somehow injected into the new place's economy which makes it more "developed." The idea is complete nonsense. Of course, both in marxian theory and in practice, the only direction that surplus-value goes is up. Capital itself is not a geographic reality. CapitalISM is only geographic in so far as capital production is done within a given area. The trick there is that once capitalism takes hold in a region it quickly integrates production in the region into the greater capitalism as a function, not as a distinct entity. There is no "more developed" and "less developed." It's entirity is just one body.

The flagrantly false notion that "The West" is accumulating treasure in the form of commodities that are produced elsewhere is marked departure from marxian economics and flies in the face of the law that the value of labor-power fluctuates around the equilibrium of the value of the means of subsistence. No "labor aristocracy" in the Big Bad West is accumulating treasure; capitalism will not allow such an inefficiency. All that is happening is the same thing that has always happened–the bourgeoisie is accumulating surplus-value and reinvesting the lions share of it in capital growth while spending what's left on hookers and blow while the workers are given just enough wages that the necessary work will get done the next day.

When you get over being a victim, maybe read a bit of theory.
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 No.461229

>>461222
TL:DR impieralism is still occuring.
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 No.461234

>>461229
>I am a massive faggot. Please rape my face.
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 No.461236

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>>461229
>if I ignore the logic it will go away
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 No.461263

>>461234
>>461236
The ballot-box socialist defenders of imperialism here, fucking pigs…
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 No.461287

>Imperialism is a real thing!
<No, it's not, and here's why…
>You support imperialism!
lel
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 No.461300

>>461287
You're an incel, euro-centric trash.
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 No.461303

>>461300
Oh yeah, well you're a doodie-head.
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 No.461305

>>461303
>incel mental breakdown
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 No.461311

>>461305
>trying to cover up the fact that he is an incel by calling other people incels
Post your glasses and negative canthal tilt.
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 No.461312

>>461311
You okay baby incel-jak?
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 No.461319

>>461312
>I-i'm not an incel
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 No.461321

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Behold, the true proletariat
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 No.461322

Reminder that both MAGA republicans and progressive democrats are petit bourgeois.
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 No.461324

>>461322
>petit bourgeois
I would imagine that most of them are just basic bitch liberal workers with particular sets of spooks. There aren't a lot of petit-porkies left.
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 No.461325

>>461319
You're projecting.
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 No.461333

>>461322
Depends on what you mean by petti bourgeois
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 No.461337

>>461325
Projecting my dick. Too bad you can't.
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 No.461339

>>461333
Do you mean tradesmen who have no employees but hold their own means of production? I have long been of the opinion that such individuals were classless rather than petit-bourgeois.
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 No.461345

MAGA is a fascist white-supremacist movement btw.
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 No.461348

>>461345
>Erythangz fashist
Get new material
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 No.461350

>>461348
>Calling Republicans fascists is calling everyone fascist.
Get new material.
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 No.461352

>>461348
Why are you so hell-bent on defending reactionaries? The same people that fucking hate Marxists, and anyone who isn't a white male christian. Maybe it was a good idea to have proclaimed incels to be a ban on site because they seem reactionary as fuck.
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 No.461353

>>461352
Yeah, but they're liberals, not fascists. Liberalism is shitty enough. It's doesn't help to apply a false perjorative like "fascist" to them. Call liberalism what it is so that it is clear just how shitty it is.
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 No.461354

>>461353
Nah they're fascist. Libtards don't try to coup the government and they aren't as blatant about their white supremacist motives.
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 No.461355

>>461352
Tfw you substitute cultural identity politics for class analysis
>Muh white christians
Let's be honest. Nothing is whiter and more steeped secular neo christian spooks than DSA liberals posing as marxists
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 No.461357

>>461355
Yes republicans are white Christians.
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 No.461358

>>461353
How is it this possible to be out of touch of reality? Yeah republicans are totally not getting more and more authoritarian.
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 No.461359

>>461358
They're not out of touch, just fascist shilling.
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 No.461361

>>461359
Maybe I don't really care, this anon has gone out of his way to protect the names of the ultra-reactionaries from being "slandered" with the term fascist, which they rightly deserve, for months now. What a shitbag, I would gladly put a bullet in his fucking head.
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 No.461364

>>461354
The trumptards did not attempt a "coup." They were honestly surprised when, after getting just let through every supposed barrier, the bullets finally started flying when they tried to breach the chamber.
>>461358
>getting more and more authoritarian.
Yeah, and so are the Democrats. The police state has become absolute. Is that what you think differentiates liberalism from fascism–how "authoritarian" it is?
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 No.461366

>>461364
>The trumptards did not attempt a "coup."
Cope
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 No.461374

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>>461366
You can't meme your way out of the fact that the "coup" narrative was cooked up political gamesmanship. Shutting down the Capitol Building is not a coup. They went there clueless and without any plan whatsoever beyond the usual "plan" at the heart of liberal demonstrations, that is to say, "pay attention to my cause!" Then the cops just got out of their way and let them in for a tour.
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 No.461375

>>461374
Lol, they were trying to stop the certification of the election. And they had the support of Trump and the DC police.
Cry all you want about the media ya fucking loser.
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 No.461376

>>461374
Lol, they were talking about hanging democrats for months and came in with guns.
The MAGA cult are lapdogs for the booj and their leader is a literal orange billionare.
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 No.461377

>>461375
>Lol, they were trying to stop the certification of the election.
Demanding a recount is not a coup. That's just interrupting a bureaucratic process. A coup is trying to actively sieze control of the state, which was never even a prospect given that Congress had evaculated the building.

Honestly, why do you buy into that obviously bullshit, mainstream media-concocted narrative? Is it just to pwn the red-libs? The truth is more damning than the lie.
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 No.461378

>>461374
huh, I didn't know someone died there

what was that all about? who were the organizers?
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 No.461379

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>>461378
There was this one crazy bitch who tried to climb into the chambers through the broken window on a door. Prior to the protest, she had recorded a schizo rant in her car. Honestly, it's hardly a surprise that she managed to get herself shot.
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 No.461380

>>461377
>Demanding a recount is not a coup.
LMAO, they were trying to overturn the election. Trumps acolytes are crying about election fraud right now because they lost again.
>That's just interrupting a bureaucratic process.
Kek, no it's insurrection because you lost.
>A coup is trying to actively sieze control of the state,
Yes, that's what Trump would have done if he could have stopped the certification. He had a plan to blitzt the airwaves with election FUD and try to convince everyone he actually one. Exactly what Bush did in 2000.
>Honestly, why do you buy into that obviously bullshit,
LMAO, the right wing has been stealing elections for generations. But the GOP has gotten so looney that they can't steal them anymore. You storm a capital to stop a transfer of party armed with the full support of the sitting president and that's an attempted coup.
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 No.461381

>>461379
so who were the organizers?
there must be some bourg sponsor behind this

inb4 Trump
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 No.461382

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>>461377
>Demanding a recount is not a coup.
>MAGAtards dindu nuffin.
Ebin
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 No.461383

>>461381
It was Trump.
Cope.
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 No.461384

>>461380
>He had a plan to blitzt the airwaves with election FUD and try to convince everyone he actually one.
what's the point? how are his policies different from the dems lol?

I always found you people bizarre who claim Trum is a wannabe Mussolini of something
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 No.461385

>>461383
Trump is fuckin broke ass
no way he could've pulled that off alone
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 No.461386

>>461384
>what's the point? how are his policies different from the dems lol?
He got a million people killed by purposefully botching the COVID response to save his own political hide.
Say what you will about dems, but that wouldn't have happened under them.
>>461385
I know, how could the president foment an insurrection. It's ridiculous on it's face!
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 No.461387

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>>461378
>who were the organizers?
>organizers
There were none. The idiots just blundered on in with no direction and no clear objective.
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 No.461388

>>461387
>There were none.
Cope
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 No.461389

to all the Trump=Hitler/Mussolini people:
How do you square the circle that Hitler/Mussolini had to deal with the MASSIVE radical communist movements at home when they came to power

where was this movement in a fucking US of A? You had Bernie cucking the fucking burger retarded proles hook line and sinker lol
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 No.461390

>>461387
seems too convenient man
people don't just blunder into a congress
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 No.461391

>>461386
>I know, how could the president foment an insurrection. It's ridiculous on it's face!
again, no way he could've pulled that alone
his ass would've been couped faster than you can blink if didn't have some support base and some backroom negotiations beforehand
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 No.461392

>>461387
>The idiots just blundered on in
The cops let them in.
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 No.461393

>>461391
Nah, the US has always let the right wing run amok. They just didn't expect it to get this out of hand. Now that they've been burned they're putting the muzzle back on the fash in burgerland.
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 No.461394

>>461380
>LMAO, they were trying to overturn the election.
They were trying to stop a certification in the hope of uncovering some dastardly plot to rig the election with fake ballots, because they bought into a bullshit media-concocted narrative just like you did.
>Exactly what Bush did in 2000
What? No, what Bush did was to have the election officials in Florida, who had been personally appointed by his brother futz the recount, and then he had the U.S. Supreme Court, which was packed with his father's and Ronald Reagan's appointees, stop any further recounts. That wasn't a coup either. It was just election rigging.
>LMAO, the right wing has been stealing elections for generations.
They're all stolen by the right-wing. That's why elections happen in liberal republics. Only the interests of capital ever win.
>>461383
Telling a crowd of assembled idiots to go to the Capitol and then giving them no direction whatsoever is not what I would call "organizing." It's irresponsible and stupid, which is the opposite of organization.
>>461384
>I always found you people bizarre who claim Trum is a wannabe Mussolini of something
It's a kind of hysterical hyperbole that folks who have invested too much in the spectacle are often prone to. While each stripe of liberal is calling the other "communists" or "fascists" none of them can see the plain fact that all the shit that they hate about politics is being done by other liberals.
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 No.461395

>>461392
Exactly. They even stood around the Capitol building taking selfies with the protesters. Some "coup."
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 No.461396

Trump is not an American Mussolini because it is not a time for Mussolini. Yet.
Until you get a massive labor movement it will be business as usual in a parliamentary republic. I trust historical precedents more than some hysteric liberals that are completely immersed in the political spectacle.
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 No.461398

>>461396
As old and fat as Trump is, it will be a wonder if he lives another fourt years.
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 No.461410

>>461396
I agree that bourgeois democracy is not going to get a brand change to fascism, that is, only if the left can pose a serious challenge to the elites or gain some actual political power. Trump/the Republicans are really fascists without fascism, I'm not really sure why some anons have thrown a hissy fit over the label.
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 No.461411

>>461410
>Trump/the Republicans are really fascists without fascism
that doesn't even make any sense
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 No.461412

>>461410
>Trump/the Republicans are really fascists without fascism
They are plainly liberals. Why are so insistent upon distancing one of the two major American political parties from status quo politics?
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 No.461418

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>>461411
Here retard, try reading
https://researchanddestroy.wordpress.com/2017/02/20/the-landing-fascists-without-fascism/
>>461412
I'm really not sure how the fuck you think MAGA is just "plain liberalism" when Trump tried to use state and mob power to overthrow a bourgeois democratic election. I mean the fascist tendencies really started with Nixon's southern plan to attack and demonize blacks to get white votes. The GOP is openly ethnically nationalist, they promote fantastic conspiratorial lies, they have burgeoning authoritarian tendencies, these are the people who want to call antifa a terrorist organization and drone strike them, they had no qualms and cheered when Trump brought in unnamed gangs of government thugs into Portland to beat up protesters. Yeah that sounds like full-blown fascism ready to rear it's ugly head out of the dead corpse of neo-librealism. MAGA is not a movement that will go away silently into the night after an election loss, they won't ever give a monotone and optimistic concession speech. They are the reserve to call in once the elites shadow game of Red vs Blue loses favor from the masses, once it becomes untenable to project the already fucked American system that's when the barbaric vanguard will move in.
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 No.461419

>>461418
>Hilary Clinton peppered with Marxist phrases
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 No.461423

>>461419
What makes you think I wouldn't also shoot a Clinton in the head? All of the bastard elites in this rotten state play us for chumps, fuck em and the house they dwell in.
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 No.461425

>>461423
Usually when people resort to effete power fantasies, I dismiss them outright. Do something more more productive that occilating between righteous indignation, despair over the lefts irrelevance, and tailing DNC talking points.
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 No.461430

>>461418
>I'm really not sure how the fuck you think MAGA is just "plain liberalism" when Trump tried to use state
Please, the parties use state power in every election to rig things one way and the other. That's part of the game and the inspiration for Stalin's famous quote about who counts the ballots.
>and mob power to overthrow a bourgeois democratic election
They staged a protest at the Capitol building. Whoop-de-shit. That was no more a coup attempt than the Million Man March was.
>The GOP is openly ethnically nationalist
No, just regular nationalist. Nationalism has been part and parcel with liberalism since Hobbes and Locke.
>they promote fantastic conspiratorial lies, they have burgeoning authoritarian tendencies, these are the people who want to call antifa a terrorist organization and drone strike them, they had no qualms and cheered when Trump brought in unnamed gangs of government thugs into Portland to beat up protesters
More spectacle bullshit. "They call for," "they want to," "they have no qualms"–blah, blah, blah. It's talk.
>They are the reserve to call in once the elites shadow game of Red vs Blue loses favor from the masses, once it becomes untenable to project the already fucked American system that's when the barbaric vanguard will move in.
Right here is the problem with this idiocy–it imagines a bunch of basic bitch liberals as being something outside of liberalism, some big threat that is external to the status quo that will rise up if the status quo were ever allowed to fail. No, they are 100% a function of the status quo. They are performing entirely within the framework of the liberal system. This frankly stupid notion that they are "fascists" and the vanguard of the new reation only serves to disassociate the present system from the effects of its own propaganda. It's counter-productive mis-framing.
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 No.461435

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>>461430
Thank you for entirely missing the point that Trump/MAGA is not regular libtardismism and is willing to further use authoritarian violence unabashedly. You really think it is unreasonable to call the party that blindly follows a racist sociopath businessman fascist? Let me guess your some old fart, maybe you also watch CNN and are a "moderate democrat" and we can't call the GOP fascist because we can't cross those lines, some bullshit.
>Right here is the problem with this idiocy–it imagines a bunch of basic bitch liberals as being something outside of liberalism, some big threat that is external to the status quo that will rise up if the status quo were ever allowed to fail. No, they are 100% a function of the status quo. They are performing entirely within the framework of the liberal system. This frankly stupid notion that they are "fascists" and the vanguard of the new reation only serves to disassociate the present system from the effects of its own propaganda. It's counter-productive mis-framing.
>if you kill your enemies, they win
Thank-you Justin Trudeau I am ready to see the light and become a moderate liberal, I will not support violence against my hated enemy and oppressor and I will not slander them at all. I really wonder why you throw a pissy fit over calling reactionaries fascist, yeah we should definitely make sure we shouldn't do that, cannit cross those lines. You're retarded and Trump is a fascist.
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 No.461436

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Republicans have feelings t-too guys don't c-call them f-f-fascists man… wE HAVE TO BE MODERATE LIBERALS DO NOT SLANDER YOUR ENEMIES
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 No.461437

>>461436
>DNC intern tier
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 No.461442

>>461437
>shitting on MAGAfags makes you a shareblue jewish nigger
You think like a 5 year old.
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 No.461443

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>>461435
>Thank you for entirely missing the point that Trump/MAGA is not regular libtardismism and is willing to further use authoritarian violence unabashedly.
How did you manage to get such a whitewashed view of history that you think that "authoritarian violence" hasn't been openly practiced throughout the history of liberalism? There is absolutely nothing new about the "authoritarian violence" that MAGAts say they want. It's just the same violence that liberal states have always practiced ever since they chopped off Charles I's head.
>You really think it is unreasonable to call the party that blindly follows a racist sociopath businessman fascist? Then every U.S. president since Lincoln has been a fascist. My eyes cannot roll hard enough.
>maybe you also watch CNN
Top kek! Your bullshit IS a mainstream media narrative. The only leftist news that ran with DNC's "Republicans are fascists" hysteria was WSWS, and lol trots.
>I will not support violence against my hated enemy and oppressor and I will not slander them at all.
Please, the only support you offer is with you keyboard. You're support is worthless.
>You're retarded and Trump is a fascist.
Since mindlessly flailing and name-calling seems to be the only you know how to argue, let's try a little mental exercise: give us a definition of "fascist" and a definition of "liberal" and then tell us what you think the difference between the two concepts is.
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 No.461444

>>461443
>The only leftist news that ran with DNC's "Republicans are fascists" hysteria was WSWS, and lol trots.
Did they really? I'm actually surprised to hear that, because Trotsky himself had a very sober take on fascism. According to Trotsky, fascism is best described as the repression and violence that comes after a failed revolution. It's not a thing you can magically "resist" until the bad people go away, it's a situation you prevent from occurring by winning the revolution.
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 No.461447

>>461444
>Did they really?
Yeah, WSWS went all-in on the goofy-ass "fascist coup" narrative.
>According to Trotsky, fascism is best described as the repression and violence that comes after a failed revolution.
Now that would be a useful definition, although I wonder who could be called "fascist" using that definition. Although, I wouldn't mind the perjorative being put to rest.
>It's not a thing you can magically "resist" until the bad people go away, it's a situation you prevent from occurring by winning the revolution.
Every now and then I wonder if Trotsky himself could have actually been based and it is just his followers who are retarded.
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 No.461451

>>461443
They were trying to overthrow a democratic election that they lost. Do you think subverting the majority of the workers will is okay because liberalism is violent kek.
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 No.461454

>>461451
>the majority of the workers will
uyghur please. "None of the above" won the plurality in the election.
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 No.461456

>>461454
People who didn't vote didn't support Trump's ultra neoliberalism. Polls show people support Progressive politics which Trump is against.
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 No.461458

>>459044
Trump destroyed a bunch of worker protections while in office and had a long history ripping off workers.
You racist reactionaries can go back to .org.
Laugh about it all you want but you'd all get punched in the mouth around anyone but MAGApedes which is why you all only hideout online.
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 No.461463

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>>461456
People who didn't vote knew not to bother with the bullshit.
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 No.461465

>>461463
Cope, Republicans never win the majority of votes in the house or Senate. Trump would have never won in 2016 if the Voting Rights Act hadn't been overturned.
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 No.461470

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>>461465
>Cope, Republicans never win the majority of votes in the house or Senate.
The funny thing is that the last time that either party won an actual majority, it was the Republicans. Since then, it has been "none of the above" by a landslide.
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 No.461472

>>461470
>More land = more votes.
The Democrats win the majority of votes all the time. The electoral college is anti democratic. Cope Haz
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 No.461473

Are you seriously going to die on the hill of "Walter Mondale would have won the popular vote"?
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 No.461475

>>461473
This is just cherry picking, the Dems have won the majority of votes in nearly every election for the last 40 years.
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 No.461477

>>461475
No, they haven't. Absolutely no policital party has won an actual majority in the United States since 1984.
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 No.461479

>>461477
The Dems won the majority of votes in both the house and Senate this year dipshit, and they did it for 2020, 2018, 2014 and more elections.
Fuck off, no one like MAGApedes and you couldn't even sweep the Dems in a Midterm where Repubs always do well.
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 No.461480

>>461443
Read Marx, fuck off Haztard.
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 No.461481

>>461477
Fuck off reactionary.
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 No.461482

>>461477
>No, they haven't
Cope they have. The working class is even more left than corporate Dems (although not socialist) but people keep voting for them to keep out fash Repubs.
The US would already be a Euro style welfare state if not for Repubs.
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 No.461483

>>461482
NOOO YOU CANT CALL REPUBLICANS FASCIST YOU'RE LE HYSTERICAL LIBERAL REDDITARD AHHHH 4CHAN CONTRARANISM IS ACTIVATING
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 No.461484

>your enemy's win when you call them fascists
Ah yes thank you wise old Justin Trudeau teaching me that the mainstream corporate media is too radically left wing, and that republicans ARE IN FACT just wholesome liberals.
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 No.461485

>>461483
>reddit tier boilerplate MSNBC democrat
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 No.461486

>>461485
>the only people calling republicans fascist are mainstream liberals
This is your brain when you live in a Haztard incel echo chamber.
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 No.461487

>>461479
>The Dems won the majority of votes in both the house and Senate this year dipshit
Only if you only count those who voted, you damn fool. The plurality stayed home.
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 No.461488

>defending republicans to the last breath so they won't be called fascists on a mongolian throat singing advice forum
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 No.461489

>>461487
Those who didn't vote don't secretly support Trump butt nugget. They're even further left then even dems and poll after poll proves it.
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 No.461490

>>461482
>The US would already be a Euro style welfare state if not for Repubs.
You actually think that the country goes according to what the majority want? Liberal republics were specifically designed to not allow that.
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 No.461491

>>461489
They also don't secretly support the other side, you ninny. They largely say, "a pox on both your houses."
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 No.461492

>>461490
Shut the fuck up, the Repubs are not a benign player in US politics. Things would absolutely be much better without them, and they do get better when they are BTFO'd.
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 No.461493

>>461491
I didn't say they did, read my post dumb fucking reactionary. I bet your dumb ass is a minority like Haz. You ain't getting any settler gibmedats. You and Haz are going to get hung by your own fucking party during the next depression.
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 No.461494

>>461493
Actually anon republicans are not racist or extreme at all, they are literally the same as all liberals. Now next time you try and slander MAGA with slander like "fascist" I'll have to write another paragraph to prove you wrong. Stop being a hysterical lib.
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 No.461496

>>461494
Cope fascist
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 No.461498

>>461493
>I didn't say they did
Yes you did, asshole. You said, "the Dems won the majority." And, no, they didn't get a fucking majority. Fuck off.
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 No.461500

File: 1669793675889.gif ( 3.49 MB , 385x232 , 1498928394784.gif )

>>461496
You need to get your sarcasm radar checked, or this is a concern troll.
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 No.461501

>>461496
Pwned by facts, the libtards fall back on calling everything "fascist." You know what the funny this is? The funny thing is that you are responding to a guy who was taking a piss.
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 No.461502

>>461498
The majority of votes, goddamn wtf did you think I was talking about. The fact that most people don't vote just makes Republicans an EVEN SMALLER MINORITY.
Oh and Trump lost the majority of votes to Hilary in 2016 by 1 million. The only reason why Repubs have any power is voter suppression, gerrymandering and the electoral college. Basically silencing the voice of workers who do vote.
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 No.461503

>>461500
Oh fugggggggg :DDD
>>461501
Shut up fascist
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 No.461504

>>4614500
Dude, do you know those uyghas?
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 No.461505

>>461503
On a 1 to 10 scale, how stupid do you feel right now?
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 No.461506

>>461505
I feel pretty silly, you gunna ride my ass about it forever goddamn.
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 No.461507

File: 1669794111458.jpg ( 150.19 KB , 747x849 , 1669622171224323.jpg )

Reminder that MAGAcommunism is not communism and they are not leftists
>muh no true scotsman
Yeah well calling yourself a communist, marxist, leftist doesn't automatically make you one.
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 No.461509

>>461501
Complete projection.
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 No.461510

>>461507
If you accept the maoists (assuming that you do), why not accept the MAGAts?
>>461509
Projecting that I fell for a blatantly sarcastic post? Idiot.
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 No.461515

>>461451
>democratic election
an oxymoron, lib
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 No.461516

>>461436
>Republicans have feelings t-too guys don't c-call them f-f-fascists man…
you're an actual wrecker worse than any republican
by muddying the waters about what fascism actually is you make the whole term useless
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 No.461517

File: 1669796764439.png ( 55.33 KB , 1018x1404 , 1663557602186646.png )

>>461507
Isn't this a no true scottsman fallacy?
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 No.461518

>>461486
>incel echo chamber
back to .orge
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 No.461519

>>461492
>Shut the fuck up
lol
seethe libshit

it makes absolutely no difference what party is in the house
well, if you don't count transhumanist bathrooms and abortion laws as a "difference" lmao
but I know for your middle class ass it makes the whole world lol
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 No.461520

>>461481
>Fuck off reactionary.
>>461496
>Cope fascist
>>461503
>Shut up fascist
lol
this lib is absolutely hysterical
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 No.461521

>>461520
Ikr, every post by this clown is a poorly written midwit emotional screed about 'dats fashism.' no wonder the left gets nowhere beyond being shills for Dems. Look at the quality of thought and people.
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 No.461522

File: 1669802206401.png ( 289.55 KB , 432x551 , 1667954741248.png )

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 No.461523

>>461522
>stuck in 2004
In other news, Dems vote to force rail workers to continue working. Reps vote for gay marriage.
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 No.461525

>>461523
You realize everyone knows the Dems suck right?
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 No.461526

>>461520
>>461521
>t. booty mad Haz cultists.
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 No.461528

File: 1669820626043.jpg ( 98.82 KB , 676x485 , FavoriteTrick.jpg )

>>461526
Lel, and now he tries the "u mad" play.
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 No.461529

File: 1669820819915.jpeg ( 16.8 KB , 474x266 , th-394215380.jpeg )

>>461526
is this Haz you keep talking about in the room with us right now?
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 No.461530

>>461529
Si
>>461528
Seething
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 No.461531

>>461530
So, if your whole goal was to make people mad, that would mean that nobody here actually believes that Republicans are fascists, right?
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 No.461534

>>461531
>People don't believe Repubs are fash.
Kek
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 No.461535

>>461534
Remember that time republican governors locked people in their homes and demanded people submit to experimental medical treatments because of a bad cold. Oh wait…
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 No.461536

>>461534
Remember that time fascist republicans engaged in digital book burning and erased people off social media who disagree with their narrative. Oh wait….
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 No.461540

>>461523
Yeah nobody else believes Trump is a fascist except people stuck in the 2000's, fucking retard.
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 No.461541

>>461540
>liberal
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 No.461542

>>461540
I wouldn't call him a fascist so much as he is a useful idiot for people who fall closer to fascistic tendencies.
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 No.461545

File: 1669867349034.png ( 19.04 KB , 703x911 , brainlet-potato-brain.png )

>>461542
>The billionaire class that was on the brink of being overthrown by a workers movement propped up Trump by cancelling him from social media platforms
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 No.461547

>>461545
>A bunch of boomers (many of whome are small bussniess owners) larping at the capital was a revolution.

Pure brain rott.
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 No.461549

>>461547
>Only the PMC and naive people with limited experience functioning independently can create a better world
Lol, ok zoomer
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 No.461556

>>461549
Again not what I said at all but keep reaching for the stars faggot.
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 No.461557

>>461556
>Strawmaning is only ok when I do it
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 No.461559

>>461557
Lmao you literally started it.
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 No.461560

Trump is a fascist, you disagree go back to fucking reddit you liberals.
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 No.461563

>>461560
>orange man bad (bleep bloop)
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 No.461566

No idea why you expected Mensheviks to be anything near close to the principle of "socialism" with your moral talk, so OP already makes me 'lol'. Also, the fact that he does some "Communism is for the common weal" shit when convincing them sets off alarm bells in my head, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and just say he's trying to not trigger their programming against any concept of class struggle.
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 No.461570

>>461566
To clarify, his rhetoric sounds like it could go either way from something Trump-ish or class struggle, and while I was suspicious of it at first, I'm starting to think that that's the point, and it's actually sort of genius.
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 No.461571

File: 1669893535071.mp4 ( 8.3 MB , 692x380 , michaelmoorenailsit.mp4 )

>>461560
Even terminal liberal Michael Moore thinks you are an idiot.
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 No.461577

>>461563
>You can't call an attempt to fuck over the majority of workers a fash ;_;
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 No.461578

>>461535
>COVID denialism
Can't make this up folks.
>>461549
>Petite booj bootlicking and casual racism.
Mask off moment.
>>461560
>Nooo you can't call someone attempting to over throw democracy fash!
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 No.461579

>>461578
Mask up and back to reddit, fag
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 No.461582

>>461579
>He doubles down on his retardation.
Bold choice
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 No.461584

>>461582
>Bleep bloop initiate calling people retarded sequence bleep bloop
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 No.461585

>>461584
>I called you an NPC.
You and Trump are why the US had the most COVID deaths of any country.
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 No.461587

>>461584
>COVID vaccines demonstrably worked but the media said it so it's not true.
Trump only denied COVID to save his political career, he literally didn't believe anything he said about it.
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 No.461588

>>461586
Lol cope, Trump didn't even do the basics because he is that corrupt
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 No.461589

>>461585
Americans are fat and sedentary. Fags also have weak immune systems. No wonder you're so scared. I caught the coof. Literally a nothingburger. Still exercised outdoors. Still fucked.
Also
>ongoing and persistent TDS
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 No.461590

>>461587
Trump's faggot ass shilled the moderna vaccine and 'operation warp speed' so hard. Wtf are you talking about.
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 No.461591

>>461589
Lol, yes they died because they were fat, had nothing to do with him making people work during a pandemic.
Haz rats will hang for their criminal malfeasance during the revolution.
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 No.461592

>>461589
Kek, the fucking bible gives instructions on how to quarantine. So its not like we don't know how to stop the spread of a virus kek.
Trump didn't do it for political reasons. And do you think only fat people died of COVID?
Also, what are you even saying, that Trump actively making COVID worse through his corruption was okay because the victims were fat?
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 No.461593

>>461590
No he denied it all the till like May 2020. He only talked about the vaccine long after the damage was done. STFU bootlicker, you'll be hung to
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 No.461594

>>461590
No he didn't. And he was anti mask and anti quarantine as well. Lol, COVID is why he lost to Biden ya bald faced liar.
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 No.461597

>>461594
Bleep bloop, wear the mask, stay inside, take the vax, listen to media
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 No.461598

>>461592
Ya, the average number of comorbidities with COVID deaths was 2.x Obesity and vitamin d deficiency being 2 major ones.

Keep shilling for pharma companies and the biosecurity state, faggot. And you won't hang shit. Your MO is cheerleading the bourgeois state while fancying yourself as 'muh antifascist resistance'

Derpy dickless fag
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 No.461599

>>461592
Sorry, just checked the data again. By far, the biggest 'comorbidity factor' for COVID death was being old as fuck. So we locked everyone indoors and stole 2 of the most important years from the lives of young people to save people who were 70+ years old (and to assuade the anxiety of psyoped fags like you).
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 No.461600

>>461597
>Haha you believed the media even though they were right.
This is your average Haz rat.
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 No.461601

>>461599
There are more than the 2 options, of lock-down vs no-lock-downs.

Societies can also be prepared and knowledgeable. It would have been relatively cheap for every person on earth to have a decent quality (good air-seal, low breathing resistance, high comfort, multi-use) breathing-filter-gear. And people learn when and how to use it. If virologists find a virus that easily spreads person to person, then everybody wears their filter-gear for a week or 2 to murder the virus in the crib. Scientists get a sample of the virus and plenty time to develop a vaccine in case the virus comes back. Without the ticking clock they can workout all the side effects and make the vaccine non-leaky so it gives actual immunity from infection. The breathing gear gets made out of transparent plastic so that it doesn't occlude anybodies face.

High-tech society could easily decouple it self further from micro-organic pests by installing virocidal air-condition in every room.
In order to prevent a population with weak immune systems, all children and young adults (until mid twenties) go through yearly immune-training-therapy, where the immune system gets small doses of all sorts of inactive viruses for "target practice", to get all the immune adaptations without any ill symptoms. With this scheme we could even eradicate the common cold. It's worth doing that because having the sniffles is annoying and there would be economic benefits from people not getting sick once or twice a year.

All of this came at a minimal material cost and barely any personal inconvenience. It would be far more civilized than bio-primitivism.
Human biology would benefit too, if viruses don't eat host-cells to multiply them selves people have more metabolic energy to grow into stronger and more intelligent "specimen".
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 No.461602

>>461598
Right so that means only fat people died of COVID kek.
>>461599
Niqqa the US has the worst fucking COVID fatalities of any 1st world nation and even some 3rd world ones. There's more people buried in the ground in the US and it was 100% fucking preventable.
And again, fuck off with your bloodthirsty eugenics. The deaths aren't okay because a disproportionate number of people were fat or old.
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 No.461603

Donald Trump Voters Are Reportedly ‘Tired’ ‘Angry’ And ‘Fed Up’ That He ‘Skimmed’ Campaign Funds From Candidates
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/donald-trump-voters-reportedly-tired-103058319.html
>Be Donald Trump
>Be billionaire or at least 100 millionaire
>Have decades long history of ripping off workers but still run on economic populism kek.
>Run on comically racist platform and platform and win completely destroying the veneer of liberal civility.
>Criminally botch COVID which tends to kill old and fat people (I.e. your own voters).
>Lose 2020 to a dem candidate worse than Hilary
>Have all your acolytes lose in 2022 because you stole their campaign funds.
>Continue to undermine DeSantis by running guaranteeing to split the vote and elect Biden again.
>Have Haz rats unironically patrol the internet for any reactionaries left stupid enough to follow Trump again.
Is Trump secretly a Democratic double agent?
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 No.461604

>>461577
Yeah, that would be stupid, because fucking over workers is not what fascism is. That's what capitalism is.
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 No.461606

>>461601
Or you can just go outside like a normal person
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 No.461607

400 replies

MAGAcommunism lives rent free in the freakshow fagleft's heads
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 No.461612

>>461607
indeed
Haz lives in the heads of rainbow pilled libs
just ctrl+f Haz itt lol
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 No.461614

>>461607
>>461612
MAGAts and red-painted liberal, a pox on both your houses.
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 No.461615

>>461606
You want to stop living in houses because of viruses ?
I guess that was normal roughly 10 millennia ago, but i don't think you'd find many people willing to do that nowadays.
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 No.461617

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>>461614
There is no alternative to capitalism, the left is dead, deal with it!
You WILL tail bourgeois parties and you WILL like it.
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 No.461618

>>461607
>>461612
>Be retarded
>Get (you)s
>Rent free
Indeed
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 No.461619

File: 1669922334008.jpg ( 69.37 KB , 750x559 , noalternative.jpg )

>>461617
>There is no alternative to capitalism, the left is dead, deal with it!
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 No.461620

>>461617
Yes voting for retarded racists like trump will certainly revive the left.
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 No.461623

>>461615
Bugman staying comfy in their prefab pod
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 No.461635

File: 1669927966029.jpg ( 73.91 KB , 600x432 , Cope.jpg )

>>461619
>mfw
>>461620
That's right comrade, don't vote for red booj! Vote for blue booj instead. Capitalism is eternal, after all.
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 No.461644

>>461635
It's not like I want to vote for either.
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 No.461645

>>461644
Exactly, now you get it comrade! Capitalism is the only viable system, whether we like it or not. Now, go out and vote for the lesser of two evils!
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 No.461646

Reminder that of the 20 senators who did not vote in favor of the rail strike bill, 13 of them were republicans.
>vote blue no matter who!
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 No.461648

File: 1669949121767.jpeg ( 89.92 KB , 862x960 , VotingDoneRight.jpeg )

>>461646
>voting
lel
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 No.461649

>>461645
So where's the actual working class party to represent me?

>>461646
Yeah Dems suck but republicans have worse policies elsewhere. It's like one rail strike where republicans got it right but Regan (a republican) broke up the airport workers union and did just as much damage as Dems have ever done they are both equally fucking deplorable but the question right now what can we do to soften the blow and both parties are going to do shit we disagree with and cherry picking shit like this is just myopic and smooth brained.

Everyone knows both parties suck even the most limp wristes liberal or the most braindead Maga faggot. This isn't enlightening it's obvious.
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 No.461650

>>461649
I agree with you completely, if not for the fact that leftists were consistently deepthroating democrat cock for 60+ years at the same time as they pretended to be against them.
Thankfully, we now have MAGA communists who are bravely willing to deepthroat republican cock instead, thus bringing balance to the force.
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 No.461651

>>461650
>leftists were consistently deepthroating democrat cock for 60+ years
Maybe in the gay porn that you watch.
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 No.461652

>>461650
>Deepthroating democratic cock is bad

>So deep throating republican cock is some how better.

Kek get over yourself you delusional looser.
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 No.461656

>>461652
Do you have aspergers?
>>461651
What the fuck do you think the American left was doing for nearly half a century, anon?
Certainly not struggling for socialism.
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 No.461657

File: 1669971211615.jpg ( 482.56 KB , 1080x1583 , IMG_20221202_155018.jpg )

>>461656
Lol. There does seem to be a strong correlation between autism and faggotry - both sexual and social.
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 No.461658

>>461656
Do you have an actual response?
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 No.461659

>>461658
>Why won't you respond the way I want you too after I insult you
Definitely on the spectrum
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 No.461660

>>461659
>Crying about being insult on an image board.

What a thin-skinned faggot.

IF you don't have an actual response though I am just gonna dip.
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 No.461661

>>461660
>I'm just going to leave
No you won't lol
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 No.461664

File: 1669996815805.jpg ( 161.07 KB , 1024x675 , 1980RevolutionParade.jpg )

>>461656
>What the fuck do you think the American left was doing for nearly half a century, anon?
Wait, what "half-century" are you talking about? Surely not this one.
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 No.461665

>>461664
LOL, you said specifically "American." Because the left must be measured by the place that is drowning the deepest in capitalist propaganda. In that, case, I don't know–the WTO riot? Occupy Wall Street? Organizing Amazon workers?
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 No.461669

>>461664
Not America retard.
Besides that, posting an image from 1980 was a bad choice for your argument.
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 No.461670

>>461658
Yeah, my response is that you probably have aspergers since you can't understand the most obvious sarcasm.
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 No.461671

>>461669
See:
>>461665
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 No.461672

File: 1669999564769.png ( 1.82 MB , 1260x901 , 1990 Revolution Parade.png )

>>461669
Also, I figured that you were aware that the Soviet Union stuck around for a decade after that picture was taken, but here, have some proofs that it did.
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 No.461678


>>461672
And I figured that you were aware that the USSR after Khrushchev had no interest in communism and was ruled cynically.
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 No.461679

>>461665
>Because the left must be measured by the place that is drowning the deepest in capitalist propaganda
Yes.
>In that, case, I don't know–the WTO riot?
An impotent failure that barely addressed the property question.
>Occupy Wall Street?
Directly lead to a massive explosion of anti-class politics, to which leftists gladly capitulated to as they usually do.
>Organizing Amazon workers?
Hahaha, typical leftist appropriating the efforts of workers as one of his own achievements.
Yeah, bullshit. All the left does is superficially cheerlead workers when it's politically relevant, then immediately resume deepthroating the progressive capitalists.
The left is just the right.
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 No.461686

>>461679
How is organizing a union not leftist kek
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 No.461687

>>461686
It is leftist, but "leftists" had nothing to do with it. Understand?
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 No.461688

>>461687
Thats a bit totalizing to just stay "no leftists are in unions at all" come on now.
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 No.461691

>>461688
You're right if by "leftist" we both just mean "shills for the progressive capitalists". Which the overwhelming majority of American leftists are. In fact, most Americans, even the most fervent "anti-capitalists", are just that. Even when they claim to believe otherwise, they reveal in their actions that they really believe there is no alternative to capitalism and capitalist politics.
Once again, the left is just the right. At least MAGA communists are honest about their slavish devotion to this or that wing of capital.
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 No.461695

>>461679
>Yes.
Why? What sense does that make? In a world where a billion people were living under red flags, how is the capitol of anti-communism the measure of the left's efficacy? To be clear, I think that you are a propaganda sucking bitch, but I am curious about what absurd logic would lead any thinking human to that conclusion.
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 No.461701

>>461695
Because it's currently the center of global capital and thus ought to be the primary target for revolutionary struggle. But every major socialist movement after Lenin's death has refused to confront this uncomfortable fact, and instead chose to come up with myriad excuses for why struggle in the "first world" is short of impossible.
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 No.461704

>>461691
>Everyone I don't like is XYZ!

Kys. HAz used yo literally be anti union and now he's jumping on the bandwagon cause some trumpies are about it. You literally suck propoganda too just because it comes from fox news and Tucker Carlson doesn't make it propaganda retard. Everything is propaganda it's just about understanding that and looking for the truth amongst the weeds.
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 No.461705

>>461704
I don't give a fuck about the failed grifter Haz or MAGA "communists" you fucking moron, but even if I did you still have no argument.
Face it, MAGA "communists" are almost no different from the rest of the left, the only exception being that they prefer to slob the knob of the national conservative bourgeoisie rather than the progressive bourgeoisie. But I'm sure that veeeery important distinction makes you feel better about yourself.
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 No.461707

>>461705
>Face it, MAGA "communists" are almost no different from the rest of the left,
How much copium are Haz sluts on?
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 No.461708

Trump lied, fatsos died
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 No.461710

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 No.461725

File: 1670126429430.jpg ( 410.38 KB , 750x467 , PoliticalHumor-zbgmvv.jpg )

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 No.461726

Trump is a fascist.
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 No.461727

>>461726
>Dnc shills are back
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 No.461728

>>461727
I love how a bunch of MAGA republican shills think they are better than people who vote dem, kek. This post was written by soy fingers,.
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 No.461729

>>461728
Trump isn't the RNC. But keep parroting the same line as nearly every major ruling class institution while calling yourself the resistance and wondering why an increasing number of people equate 'left' with 'middle class faggot.'
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 No.461730

>>461729
Trump is a multi billionaire capitalist you retard.
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 No.461732

>>461730
Who was also hated by the media, academia, tech companies, CIA leadership, the Bush Cheney wing of the republicans, the DNC, etc etc.
The one time someone from from outside the political establishment becomes president, they all line up against him, and faggot low t psuedo leftists take the bait.
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 No.461733

>>461732
>Who was also hated by the media
Haha, sure, which is why they never stopped talking about his giving him billions in free adverstising.
>CIA leadership,
Lol wut.
>the Bush Cheney wing of the republicans,
Yes, because he exposed the Republicans for the colonial apartheid party that they are.
>the DNC,
Well he is in the rival party.
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 No.461734

>>461732
What does any of that have to do with the fact that he is a multi billionaire and thus will act in accordance with his own class interest? You realize that right? You are voting for porky Literally.
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 No.461735

>>461734
Jesus, you people are guy. keep sucking off Kamala's clit I guess
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 No.461736

>>461735
No argument left, huh? Good, then you can piss off.
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 No.461751

>>461735
>Everyone that disagrees with me is a democrat.
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 No.461755

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>>461736
Faggot+don't care, you're broke+poast fizeek+reddit tier+spooks+soyjack.jpg
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 No.461756

>>461755
Hey, you came back to meme after getting destroyed! lel
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 No.461757

>>461756
>Destroyed
Jesus, you fags live online
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 No.461758

>>461757
>meme
Do you enjoy being laughed at?
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 No.461760

File: 1670253164135.jpg ( 126.07 KB , 1170x1029 , IMG_20220818_134629_876.jpg )

>>461758
>Muh based CIA Director
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 No.461761

>>461760
The memes aren't even coherent anymore.
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 No.461777

File: 1670289009458.jpg ( 134.17 KB , 1200x1600 , trump.jpg )

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 No.461778

>>461777
do MAGAss really spergout against debt jubilees lol?
what are even their arguments? "I-I paid my debs and so should you!" lol?
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 No.461780

>>461778
How is it even possible that anyone other than bankers sperge out against debt jubilees? What spook would drive them to such idiocy?
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 No.461781

>>461780
indeed a weird hill for MAGAs to die on..

especially when this shit has no chance to pass and just a virtue signal by dems
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 No.461785

>>461781
I would not be so down on its chances of success. The plain fact is that an enormous chunk of that debt is never going to be paid back regardless of whether they pass the jubilee or not. It is debt in theory only, as it is not a practical reality. Surely, the ruling class knows that and will see this as an opportunity to turn worthless debt to their benefit.
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 No.461787

>>461780
Retarded people who went into debt over a useless liberal arts degree should face the consequences for the terrible choices as a matter of principle.
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 No.461788

Ideal solution: cancel the debt to spite the banks and financial underwriters, and send every liberal arts grad, business student, and all other wannabe PMC fags (regardless of debt status) into the countryside to participate in a work reform program (i.e., a gulag)
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 No.461791

The ideal solution is to not have any debt at all.
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 No.461793

>>461791
Just put the lib arts fags in a gulag before the even consider taking a loan. Great idea comrade!
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 No.461798

>>461793
You don't like music?
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 No.461801

>>461707
>repeatedly shits on haz and maga communists for being part of capitalist politics
<"lmao nice cope infratard"
"leftist" moment
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 No.461802

>>461801
Speak English. No hablamos poltard.
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 No.461805

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 No.461807

>>461727
This shit is so idiotic I'm guessing it's a troll of course, just like all of the MAGAcommunist shit.
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 No.461808

>>461780
People should be forced to be government debt slaves because a small percentage of them got liberal art degrees, and that really triggers my id-polled brain.
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 No.461809

Idk man if you throw a hissy fit and demonize other leftists over calling a reactionary-billionare and former president of so-called America a fascist, you are the real terminally online retard.
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 No.461810

>>461809
If you get butthurt by people pointing out that your rhetoric isn't any different than DNC talking points, then you should probably keep your fingers out of there for a while.
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 No.461811

>>461809
Also ironic how that retarded anon posted an NPC meme from 5 years ago in his defense >>461755
This is from the same anon who has been continually (maybe it's even been a year or at least close to it) trying to I guess shit on leftists calling themselves revolutionaries. Maybe he's against the "lifestylists" or the "blue haired college students" who think they're revolutionaries but are "middle class faggot." [sic] to me it seemed more of a forced strawman injected into different threads but never a thread of it's own. It is almost like a 4cuck /pol/ user turned leftist who still mumbles about some things like it's still 2016/2017.
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 No.461812

>>461810
>everyone I don't like is a dnc shill
What fucking talking points? As far as I know the DNC is not calling for the complete destruction of our current society, to work towards a free communist one. All you have to say is just more worthless and false dribble, you should leave.
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 No.461813

>>461812
Though bullshit and lies from everyone can be expected from this abhorrent, reactionary, and capitalist thread is to be expected.
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 No.461814

>>461812
No, anon, you don't understand. If you vote for the party that doesn't want to outright collapse society you aren't leftist enough.
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 No.461816

>>461807
Almost all of this thread is trolls trolling trolls. That or leftists have truly degenerated into republican vs democrat gang warfare.
Both are probably true IMO. Either way, leftism is a colossal failure and it's time for communists to stop drop out of the coordinates of capitalist politics entirely. We need a commiepol.
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 No.461817

>>461809
>can't tell the difference between fascism and bonapartism
leftist moment
>>461812
>As far as I know the DNC is not calling for the complete destruction of our current society
<finally admits that the DNC is a conservative party
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 No.461818

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>>461817
>bonapartism
Fucking Bonaparte. Just as soon as the Jacobins get finished killing every last aristocrat in France, that asshole goes and creates a new royal line.
>finally admits that the DNC is a conservative party
Yeah, duh. Who doesn't know that?
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 No.461819

>>461809
He was right about that, though. Trump and his idiot followers are just liberals who say mean words.
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 No.461820

>>461812
>No, you have to take me at my word. It's only me that gets to read into the hidden intentions and political implications of others!
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 No.461821

>>461817
That's easy. Trump is a fashist. Bonaparte is fashist too. The left is kinda fashist tbh. Fascists are fashist, but not in the way they think. Op is defo a fashist. You are lit ter ra ly a fashist by implication. Anyone who is reading this is also fashist by association.
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 No.461822

>>461818
>Fucking Bonaparte. Just as soon as the Jacobins get finished killing every last aristocrat in France, that asshole goes and creates a new royal line.
Crying about 200+ year old history. New levels of faggotry reached
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 No.461825

>>461818
>Yeah, duh. Who doesn't know that?
I know its hard for the marxist-bidenists and magacummunists in this thread to understand what this means, so I'll explain it as simply as possible.
Let's start by assuming that a socialist movement (made up primarily of workers) gains enough power to start contesting the rule of the bourgeoisie (basically the elites) in America. Sure, nobody in this thread actually believes that can happen, or wants that to happen, ever, but lets just assume that it does.
In the unlikely event that history hasn't ended as described above, which capitalist political parties do you think will support such a movement? Also, which parties will ally together to oppose such a movement? Well boys and girls (male), since there's only two parties, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out:
>republican party = conservative = opposed to socialism
>democratic party = conservative = opposed to socialism
So, in other words, the number of parties allied with socialists are 0, and the number of parties opposed to socialists are 2.
Oh, but what about MAGA you say? What about based Ilhan Omar and AOC? Okay, let's modify our model slightly with two additions:
>MAGA republicans = national conservative = opposed to socialism
>progressive democrats = social liberal = still opposed to socialism
Huh…well, looks like the number of potential parties in favour of socialism is still zero, but the number of potential parties opposed to socialism has actually increased to 4!
So, which potential party should anyone interested in a socialist movement ally with? The answer appears to be none of them. It makes more sense for someone interested in a socialist movement to focus on building a socialist movement independently of any capitalist party.
In conclusion, I hope this short essay has educated the youth of America present in this thread. I know the American educational system isn't very good, but always try your best to read books! I personally recommend "The Communist Manifesto" for anyone interested in this stuff.
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 No.461826

>>461821
Is this what leftypol meant by telling me to read theory?
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 No.461827

>>461820
>the hidden intentions and political implications of others
Hol' up. Are you trying to say that you think that the DNC–the American Democratic Party, one of the two ruling parties in the military heart of the capitalist world–is secretly trying to engineer a social collapse?
>>461821
>Bonaparte is fashist too.
Lel, you had me going for a moment. Damn. this thread got goofy.
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 No.461828

>>461826
It's sarcasm, a joke at the expense of idiots who call absolutely everything fascist regardless of the how obvious it is that they are something else.
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 No.461829

>>461825
Fucking seriously, man? You actually thought that needed breaking down? Forget the American public school system; you look like the idiot here.
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 No.461830

>>461829
Don't forget to read books, bucko!
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 No.461832

>>461830
Every modern Marxist needs to have 3 books on their bookshelf.
The Communist Manifesto
The Bible (KJE)
The Art of the Deal
Personally, I keep extra copies of each to give to friends and family.
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 No.461833

>>461832
Same.

The Communist Manifesto keeps my chi balanced.

The Bible cleanses my spirit.

The Art of the Deal sharpens my mind.

It's the perfect triad.
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 No.461888

What a shit fucking website, 500 posts on a Haz meme thread.
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 No.461889

>>461888
Lol u gay
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 No.461890

>>461889
You're an idiot.
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 No.461933

>>461818
you disgraceful retard, like the jacobins were freaks obsessed with bloodlines. jesus what a burger.
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 No.461944

>>461888
>What a shit fucking website
>>461889
>Lol u gay
>>461890
>You're an idiot.
>>461933
>you disgraceful retard
What a poetic ending to a MAGA thread.
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 No.461945

>>461890
He mad
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 No.461968

>>461933
>>461944
>>461945
RNC shills
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 No.461970

>>461944
Indeed. This entire thread is a farce.
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 No.461976

>>461970
welcome to leftychan, an even bigger skinners box than .org.
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 No.461977

>>461976
Also 70 % of the users who post this site are reactionaries, incels, or trolls. The other 30 % don't post ever, and they don't read theory, but just smoke weed and jerk each other off on matrix.
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 No.461983

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>>461977
This is is still upset that he couldn't get some one he disagreed with banned on the matrix and has literally been seething about this for months.

You never even bother to actual define reactionary or troll and then just pull this statistic out of your ass to justify your own inane asshurt skitzo posting. Cope.
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 No.461984

>>461977
He's back
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 No.461986

>>461977
what is your problem with incels man? you're like a poltard who constantly brings up der jude in a completely unrelated discussion, except with you it's incels…
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 No.462000

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>>461977
>they don't read theory
I know what "theory" you mean.
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 No.462006

>>462000
>Everyone
>Everyone is a sheltered propertied settler like me
Cope honkey
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 No.462009

>>462006
Kek, called it. Trips prove true again.
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 No.462033

>>462009
Cope whitey, anti idpolers get BTFO'd outside of your faggy hug boxes.
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 No.462037

>>462033
Yawn. Mentally ill white leftypol transcel from some shithole like Wisconsin is back to humor us with more deranged self owns. Unfortunately, this is like the 3rd or 4th time we've seen this routine.
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 No.462047

>>462037
meds
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 No.462055

>>462047
Don't you know. I'm the coof resistant autist that thinks fresh air cures cancer and sunshine puts hair on your balls. Vitamins and amino acids are the closest I get to meds.
Now slink back to leftypol, and offer up a packet of estrogen to your transhumanist friend Pasquale as penance.
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 No.462068

>>462037
Like I said, I never see your type running their mouth around other people. Go back to /pol/ with your ilk.
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 No.462069

>>462037
>self own
Is that what they tell you in your circle jerk.
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 No.462162

>>462055
meds
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 No.462284

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 No.462285

>>462284
You mean the CP with Natalie? Can't wait
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 No.462661

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 No.462667

>>462661
You will never be a woman
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 No.462669

>>462285
Wait she was underage?
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 No.462684

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>>462667
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 No.462688

>>462667
Why would I want to be a woman. Sounds like projection fren.
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 No.463090

>>460198
>Hang on I'm about to go kill my neighbor so I can get a new house cause laws aren't real….Laws give the mandates for those in power to obey. they don't just do it for no reason which is why laws are important and max stirner was a retard in this regard as some kind of law is going to have to exist for society to exist
Except Max never said this, he just said that you shouldn't buy into the idealist or moralist justifications of spooks "like that they are "right" or "just"" Not that you should act like a retard and get your ass hemmed by the police because your dumbass thinks that laws aren't real.
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 No.463091

>>460210
>Afraid of breaking laws because of state violence. HA SPOOKED!
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 No.463092

>>460809
Si
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 No.463109

>>463091
The violence is real. The laws that are used as justification for said violence are not.
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 No.463128

>>463109
The law is real because it's backed by violence. Obeying the law because you're afraid of police is not spooked, obeying it because you think it's "good" is. Maybe actually read Stirner.
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 No.463129

>>463128
>The law is real because it's backed by violence.
Perhaps inside the head of an idealist it is. The plain fact that the violence is not a function of the law. That can be seen plainly in how violence is not applied consistently according to the dictates of the law. Violence is frequently applied contrary to the dictates of the law, and it is often not applied in instances where the law prescribes it. Violence does not follow the law. The law merely justifies the violence.
>Maybe actually read Stirner.
I have. You haven't, clearly.
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 No.463130

>>463129
>Violence does not follow the law. The law merely justifies the violence.
Simple counter-factual.
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 No.463131

>>463130
Bullshit. It is clearly true right now. Support your claim.
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 No.463132

>>463129
>The plain fact that the violence is not a function of the law.
It is stupid. Police aren't allowed to enforce their own laws.
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 No.463133

>>463129
>Perhaps inside the head of an idealist it is.
How is thinking laws are enforced by violence idealist. Idealism is not simply recognizing a concept dumbass.
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 No.463134

>>463131
You're the one with unsupported claims. If you think laws aren't real, raid one of porky's factories see what happens, you won't though.
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 No.463135

>>463131
>Idealism is when you believe in ideas.
Would you STFU you knuckle dragging Haz rat. Laws are formalized social relations, they are every bit as real as a proles relationship to the means of production.
They are part of what Marx called the "Superstructure" which is also real. Or does that make me spooked since I think that's real?
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 No.463136

>>463129
>That can be seen plainly in how violence is not applied consistently according to the dictates of the law.
This was typed with soft, Cheetos powder stained hands.
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 No.463137

So please correct me if I'm wrong but from my experiences so far it seems to me that:
1. leftypol is populated by democrats pretending to be communists
and
2. leftychan is populated by republicans pretending to be communists
Does anyone know of any websites populated by real communists, or should I just permanently stop using the internet?
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 No.463138

>>463137
Go back
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 No.463139

>>463138
Go back to where, motherfucker!? Go back to the womb? Let me dial up Freud first.
I have no fucking idea where to go anymore.
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 No.463140

>>463137
you're back again dog? will you ever quit your whining?
what is even a "real communist" to you?
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 No.463141

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>>463132
>Police aren't allowed to enforce their own laws.
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 No.463142

>>463133
>How is thinking laws are enforced by violence idealist.
No, thinking that violence is made possible by the law instead of the other way around is idealist. You dumb fucks really did just fall off the liberal turnip truck, didn't you?
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 No.463144

>>463135
>Laws are formalized social relations, they are every bit as real as a proles relationship to the means of production.
The DSA, ladies and gentlemen! Let give 'em a round of applause.
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 No.463145

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>>463129
Jus tbecause that violence isn't evenly distributed among different classes A: Doesn't mean that it doesn't work as intended to some degree and B: That some how the rule of law isn't upheld through a (arguably) legitimate threat of violence.

The only idealism I see here is thinking otherwise, some how.
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 No.463146

>>463145
"Not evenly distributed?" It's selectively enforced. Some crimes are an open secret, and very frequently lawmen harrass, beat, arrest, and kill people who were not violating the law.

Enforcement isn't even delineated along class lines. Prostitution and drug deals are performed out in the open in certain neighborhoods (eveyone knows which ones, too) at the same time that cops are shaking down people who supposedly "match a description." Likewise, among the bourgeoisie, tax laws get aggressively enforced against certain individuals while others commit fraud for years without getting a look.

Enforcement, and thus violence, does not flow from the law. The law merely justifies the violence that is being performed.
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 No.463147

>>463142
You're just too much of a brainlet to get what a dialectic is. The law does make the violence possible, but obviously it's subservient to material things like the commodity form.
Changing the laws demonstrably changes society, just as changing a program changes a computer.
>>463141
They don't, they enforce the booj's. You're not too smart are you?
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 No.463148

>>463137
>2. leftychan is populated by republicans pretending to be communists
That's just the couple of Haz rats and Ziggers we have the shit up any thread that talks about the Ukraine or colonialism.
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 No.463149

>>463144
Prove me wrong. Protip, you can't.
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 No.463150

>>463146
>"Not evenly distributed?" It's selectively enforced. Some crimes are an open secret, and very frequently lawmen harrass, beat, arrest, and kill people who were not violating the law
Property is 9/10ths of the law as they say, it's civil liberties that aren't enforced. But that's only a small part of the law.
>Enforcement isn't even delineated along class lines.
Imagine believing this.
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 No.463151

>>463142
>No, thinking that violence is made possible by the law instead of the other way around is idealist.
No dipshit, the laws are real because a police man will really kick your head in if you break them. That's why people follow the law, you're just arguing against a strawman and thinking you're an intellect because you're winning.
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 No.463152

>>463142
>Idealism=spooked
Read Stirner brainlet
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 No.463153

first there was a threat of violence - then there was a law

seethe idealists
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 No.463154

>>463147
>You're just too much of a brainlet to get what a dialectic is.
And here comes the red-painted liberal to inform us all of how dialectics work (spoiler: his imaginary bullshit is real).
>The law does make the violence possible
No it doesn't, no more than making a thing illegal makes that thing stop happening.
>Changing the laws demonstrably changes society
The change comes first. The law that justifies the change appears afterward.
>They don't, they enforce the booj's.
The bourgeoisie does not benefit from many of the routine extra-legal activities of the police. In fact, I imagine that the bourgeoisie would prefer a bit more social stability, but I riot now and again is the price one pays for employing a bunch of armed thugs with no effective oversight.
>You're not too smart are you?
Funny, I have the same impression of you–just another mid-wit using basic bitch dialectics to justify a worldview that doesn't match the reality that is right in front of him. You would no doubt be intellectually stimulated by touching grass.
>>463149
uyghur please, you get proven wrong every time lawmen break the law before a law gets passed to make what they did legal.
>>463150
>Property is 9/10ths of the law as they say, it's civil liberties that aren't enforced.
It is also property that does not always get enforced, notably personal property. The police never do anything to secure personal property claims, and I mean nothing. It doesn't matter whether you have a theif's face on video as he steals your shit, they will never lift one finger to either prosecute the criminal or to secure the return of your property. That isn't the only property claim that doesn't get enforced, though. Property may be nine-tenths of the law, but, just like every other law, it is selectively enforced.
>Imagine believing this.
The cops are not as class conscious as we give them credit for being. Certain individuals get treated better than others do. There is absolutely a difference in how proles tend to get treated as compared with petit-pigs, but class is far from the only thing that determines who gets treated in what way by the police.
>>463151
Scroll up, moron. Another moron already said that, and it was already put in its place.
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 No.463164

>>463154
>And here comes the red-painted liberal to inform us all of how dialectics work (spoiler: his imaginary bullshit is real).
And here comes the reactionary to smear everyone as a lib.
>The change comes first. The law that justifies the change appears afterward.
Nothing comes first, it's relative. Doesn't matter regardless, they reinforce and influence each other. See I told you you are a brainlet.
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 No.463165

>>463154
>The bourgeoisie does not benefit from many of the routine extra-legal
It doesn't hurt them either.
>Funny, I have the same impression of you–just another mid-wit using basic bitch dialectics to justify a worldview that doesn't match the reality that is right in front of him.
Lol, you're the one that thinks being spooked is simply believing or even repeating a concept.
Are you spooked for speaking English to me "A fixed idea!" kek. Egotism is the purest form of anarchy. Not some philosophical masturbation about how laws written on paper aren't literally real. Like no shit sherlock, that's not what anyone is saying.
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 No.463167

>>463154
>The cops are not as class conscious as we give them credit for being.
Wow you sure showed that strawman. Not a single goddamn time did anyone say cops are class conscious.
>uyghur please, you get proven wrong every time lawmen break the law before a law gets passed to make what they did legal.
Only when they violate the civil liberties of proles. Name some cops that killed some booj…. Yeah thought so.
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 No.463169

I dunno wtf are you retards arguing about

laws are formalized violence
there can be violence without laws, but no laws without violence
or more precisely coercion, which implies violence
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 No.463170

and to think of violence in the abstract, without its connection to the process of societal reproduction, is peak bourg idealism
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 No.463171

>>463164
>And here comes the reactionary to smear everyone as a lib.
Reactionaries are libs, you basic bitch.
>Nothing comes first, it's relative.
Yes, something comes first. The unfolding of time is not relative; it's linear. inb4 pomo non-linear time bullshit.
>>463165
>It doesn't hurt them either.
Some of them it does. It hurts petit-porkies and some financiers. It hasn't hurt them enough to warrant actual oversight of the poilice yet.
>Lol, you're the one that thinks being spooked is simply believing or even repeating a concept.
That's a narrative that you made up in your own head. Resolve it there.
>>463167
>Not a single goddamn time did anyone say cops are class conscious.
>Only when they violate the civil liberties of proles
Catch up to the conversation, dipshit.
>Name some cops that killed some booj…
Pablo Escobar springs immediately to mind. Oh, and how about Jeffrey Epstein?
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 No.463172

>>463169
>there can be violence without laws, but no laws without violence
This uyghur gets it.
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 No.463181

>>463171
>Reactionaries are libs, you basic bitch.
I guess you're a lib then dipshit.
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 No.463182

>>463171
>Yes, something comes first. The unfolding of time is not relative; it's linear. inb4 pomo non-linear time bullshit.
Not when you're in the middle of a dialectic. It's like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg. It's relative to your own perspective. And it doesn't matter, as a materialist I've got chicken and eggs to deal with. Knowing which came first doesn't help at this point. You're a pseudo intellect that thinks he knows and has some kind of authority when in reality you know nothing of value.
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 No.463183

>>463171
>Some of them it does.
How? Even after the Floyd riots little about how police operate changed.
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 No.463184

>>463171
>Pablo Escobar springs immediately to mind. Oh, and how about Jeffrey Epstein?
These were both career criminals that had documented protection from both police and intelligence agencies. Both were only killed after public out cry for gross crimes (Pablo for bombing an airliner, Epstein for sex trafficking).
Epstein's story broke back in 2006 by the now defunct Gawker, and Pablo openly operated for years.
Now show me a story where a book was victimized by police randomly like proles are always subject to.
Using this as an example is like saying the state hates capitalism because it goes to war with capitalist countries so much.
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 No.463185

>>463184
Yeah, the state only reluctantly killed Pablo and Epstein after years of public outcry. Technically anon is right but to say this is an example of police killing porky at parity with how much it kills proles is such a fucking cope.
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 No.463200

>>463181
>reactionary
>problematic cis-het white male
>librul
>faggot
It's all used the same way, and it all just means the same shit–people who say things that I don't like. Faggot.
>>463182
>Not when you're in the middle of a dialectic.
Not everything is a dialectic, and "Law and Violence" is one of those things that is not a dialectic. This absurd notion that everything can be explained with dialectics is precisely what Stirner was mocking in The Ego and Its Own. Dialectics can be a useful tool for analyzing certain phenomena (actual dielectics as opposed to "law and violence"), but it does not describe everything, any more than the scientific method does.
>It's relative to your own perspective.
No, it's not. It's a perfectly verifiable question of which thing came before the other, and which thing still exists in the absence of the other.
>You're a pseudo intellect that thinks he knows and has some kind of authority when in reality you know nothing of value.
The difference between us is that you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole so that it fits your a priori prejudices, while I am actually looking at a thing and seeing how it works.
>>463183
What? We are talking about the effect that extra-legal police violence has on bourgeois interests. Keep up.
>>463184
>These were both career criminals
Top lel! Do you have any idea how many of the bourgeoisie is "career criminals?" None of them abide by the law, and most of their fortunes are heavily supplimented with ill-gotten loot. Hell, just look at what happened to Epstein. He wasn't killed legally or out of any sense of justice. He was murdered so that he couldn't talk about allllll of the bourgeois bastards he got teenaged prostitutes for. Those supposed "non-career criminals" killed him.
>Pablo openly operated for years.
Yes! Exactly! Right out in the open and in plain view of law enforcement, just like so many other porkies do right now. Only some of them get SWAT teams at their doors. As in the case with Epstein and Escobar, the law justified the violence used against them, but that violence was not applied for legal reasons. The law is just an excuse for having done the violence.
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 No.463201

>>463185
>to say this is an example of police killing porky at parity with how much it kills proles is a blatant strawman
FTFY
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 No.463206

>>463200
You just talk past all my points like the pseud that you are.
If you had ever read Striner you'd know he actually uses following the law as an example.
In the example he uses someone in their home watching a thief being arrested.
If the person watching is happy that the thief is getting arrested because that will keep their own property safe, something that is materially true, that is not spooked. However if they think it's good that the thief is getting arrested because it's "good" and "keeping order" then that is spooked.
Stirner or anyone is not debating on whether laws or ideas are real. Yes I know laws written on a page cannot literally leap up and hurt me, for you to think that this is some kind of deep insight shows how dumb you are.
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 No.463207

>>463200
>Not everything is a dialectic, and "Law and Violence" is one of those things that is not a dialectic. This absurd notion that everything can be explained with dialectics is precisely what Stirner was mocking in The Ego and Its Own. Dialectics can be a useful tool for analyzing certain phenomena (actual dielectics as opposed to "law and violence"), but it does not describe everything, any more than the scientific method does.
The Law determines how police met out violence. It it self is in a dialectic with the base and private property. You used to be able to not hire someone because they were black, now you cannot do that and if you do state violence will fall upon you.
>No, it's not. It's a perfectly verifiable question of which thing came before the other, and which thing still exists in the absence of the other.
No it is, because the dialectic is in motion.
>The difference between us is that you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole so that it fits your a priori prejudices,
Lol, no it's you that's trying to abstract Marx into idealism. Unmoored from material reality you, like so many reactionaries, use it's authority to push backwards and bigoted politics.
>The difference between us is that you are trying to shove a square peg into a round hole so that it fits your a priori prejudices,
Answer the question, you said police violence hurts porky, even though we had nationwide riots over police violence and little changed.
How does police violence against proles hurt porky?
>It's all used the same way, and it all just means the same shit–people who say things that I don't like. Faggot.
I can tell you get called these names alot because you are dumb boor who thinks he's right all the time when you aren't even correct on the basics.
>Top lel! Do you have any idea how many of the bourgeoisie is "career criminals?"
This supports my case that the police do not in any real sense prosecute the booj even when they are committing staggering crimes.
>Yes! Exactly! Right out in the open and in plain view of law enforcement, just like so many other porkies do right now. Only some of them get SWAT teams at their doors. As in the case with Epstein and Escobar, the law justified the violence used against them, but that violence was not applied for legal reasons. The law is just an excuse for having done the violence.
This only happened after they became comically large and public liabilities. Do you really think those two men were the only porkies committing those crimes?
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 No.463208

>>463200
BELIEVING IN A IDEA IS NOT IN OF IT SELF SPOOKED, READ STRINER
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 No.463209

>>463208
Imagine actually reading that fag
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 No.463213

>>463207
>The Law determines how police met out violence.
No, it doesn't. Not at all. Police violence does not confine itself to acting on behalf of the law, nor does it occur in even most instances where the law prescribes it.
>You used to be able to not hire someone because they were black, now you cannot do that and if you do state violence will fall upon you.
Jesus, imagine actually believing that that's true. Employers can not hire someone for any reason that they want. They just can get into trouble if they boast after the fact that they did so for a particular reason.
>No it is, because the dialectic is in motion.
That phrase is meaningless the way you use it.
>backwards and bigoted politics.
What in the actual fuck are you even talking about? Now, the way that you make everyone who disagrees with you into a caricature of a particular enemy that you have in your head actually IS the function of a dialectic–the one that every identiarian is stuck in.
>Answer the question
I did. You're an idiot who can't comprehend what he reads.
>you said police violence hurts porky
I said that it can hurt individual porkies. I also said that it can, on occasion, work against bourgeois interests. "Porky" is not a real person, and he definitely isn't one monolithic cabal.
>I can tell you get called these names alot
Of course! It's impossible to talk about politics online without getting accused of being one caracature or anonther at any given time. They want that idealist simpletons like you use the term "reactionary" is exactly the same way that /pol/tards use the term "cuck." They are both empty, meaningless perjoratives. Inb4 well achshully, "reacionary" means blahblahblah
>This supports my case that the police do not in any real sense prosecute the booj even when they are committing staggering crimes.
Not always but sometimes, because the law is selectivelty enforced.
>This only happened after they became comically large and public liabilities.
Epstein and Escobar were not killed over any public outcry. "Public libilities" are big nothings. They get forgotten in the next news cycle.
>Do you really think those two men were the only porkies committing those crimes?
You really are too stupid to follow the points in this discussion.
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 No.463326

>>459049
The mistake here is thinking that Trump himself ever cared about any of his populist slogans. Once he was actually in power, he filled his cabinet with corporate ghouls and cut taxes like any other Republican. His voters didn't care because the populism was always just a pretense and the real foundation of the entire MAGA movement was just owning libs. It was never about fighting for the working man in anything but rhetoric.
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 No.463655

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 No.463656

>>463655
Damn Poe's Law. I can't tell if this stuff is serious.
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 No.464052

>>459313
Nah. You’re a fascist. You measure skulls like a Nazi, you demand racial segregation like a Nazi and you apply whole stereotypes to an entire people like a Nazi
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 No.464054

>>459312
>red polyp
Contradiction. It’s impossible
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 No.464055

>>464052
>Erytangz fashist
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 No.464056

>>463326
It literally does not matter. The movement is what is important, and MAGA is the closest thing to a Communist movement that exists now. If Trump betrays his own movement that creates an opening for new leadership and new direction.
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 No.464057

>>464056
NOW THIS IS RETARDATION
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 No.464114

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>>464056
>The movement is what is important
Pic related
>MAGA is the closest thing to a Communist movement
Comrade Lenin save us all from this cringe
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 No.464347

This counterpunch article is really the perfect article to shit on the idiots here. https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/19/latin-americans-can-call-fascist-coup-attempts-fascist-but-us-americans-cant/
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 No.464358

>>464347
>Muh, Lula, the globohomo WEF president, must be defended.
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 No.464360

>>464347
Also written be a fart sniff academic who has never done real work in his life, who exists as defender/dependent of the extant system while posing as a critic/subversive.

Funny how all these superduper radicalleftists seem to have coushie jobs in media and education…
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 No.464363

>>464360
What the fuck are you talking about? Did you forget that we are all dependant on the system, the only way you escape capitalism is either revolution or death. It's ridiculous to try and call a leftist a sell out for taking an academic job. There are much worse jobs out there under capitalism, I've had few myself, and there is nothing wrong with taking a job that offers good pay, benefits and generally decent working conditions. Unless you're some type of academic boss, who has teaching and research assistants working for you.
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 No.464364

>>464363
What is the function of the university system under capitalism, you dense faggot
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 No.464365

>>464364
You realize this Paul Street guy isn't the head of a university, right? From what I've read of this guy he is an anti-capitalist, and a progressive, of course.
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 No.464370

>>464365
>he doesn't know that anti-capitalism has become a mainstream position
>he doesn't know that progressivism is just liberalism with a human face
>he doesn't know
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 No.464375

>>464370
Liberals don't know what capitalism is. They hate "capitalism" as if it were just some stupid ideology.
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 No.464377

>>464370
Aging millennial fag still suck in 2003
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 No.464380

>>464377
Arguably, anti capitalism is more popular than ever. More and more people are at least leaning towards anti-capitalism every day now. I just jumped in this convo I hope it isn't some retarded polfag.
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 No.464382

>>464380
That's great an all, but the world has already moved on to a managerial state mode of production. As usual, the western left is about 50 behind the times. But keep on conveniently ranting about small business owners and tailing the imperial academic strata (which couldn't independently organize itself out if a paper bag) while the oligarchal class and its technocrat servants class seize more power.
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 No.464384

>>464382
No it hasn't and this is retarded for numerous reasons. Oligarchies of corporations controlling the world is not "state control" of anything. It's people who want to get rich off their investments running the economy producing things for profit.
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 No.464385

>>464382
>managerial state mode of production
>oligarchal class
>technocrat servants class seize more power
By these alone I can tell you didn't even have the basic Marxism 101 introduction necessary to opine about such topics. You are so full of shit yet so self-confident, I can not but assume you are an American.
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 No.464389

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God bless whoever this retard is
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 No.464391

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I think Haz might be having sex with the wrong gender.
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 No.464404

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Chairman Trump has spoken
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 No.466892

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#magacommunism
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 No.468240

In case you nighas forgot
>Trump is /ourguy/
https://thegrayzone.com/2023/02/15/trump-empire-they-hated-him/

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