>>459167> Tankies’ lifted hundreds of millions from povertyTankies are an internet subculture that consists of postmodern nationalism with red aesthetics
Marxist-Leninists governments have lifted millions of poverty…but so have capitalist governments, so this is a dogshit thing to prop up as the specific success of your ideology
I’m not going to read the rest of your rant because it’s self-evident that Marxism-Leninism was, and is, a failure. MLs dominated at least 1/3 of mankind and the USSR was one of the two most powerful countries on Earth for the better half of a century. And the entire system completely collapsed in on itself despite that to revert to warring capitalist states that have mostly hardcore anti-communist cultures and rehabilitate pre-Soviet imperialists and the fucking Nazis.
Yes, Leninism was an abject failure, the fact that it was destroyed internally due to how the system was organized (wow shocker when you don’t build a worker’s democracy but instead just create a one-party welfare state it actually isn’t remotely difficult to transition back to regular capitalism with no substantial pushback from the populace, who knew!?) directly delegitimizes it, the fact that modern day MLs not only support something that utterly failed but also delude themselves into believing it wasn’t a failure delegitimizes all of them.
It actually speaks miles that the only people MLs can construct a coherent rebuttal towards are actual explicit pro-capitalist ideologues, specifically ones that promote western capitalism and basically no one else. Like, your arguments literally center around whether or not ML governments could do economic development that can only actually be a rebuttal to specifically pro-west capitalists that claim ML states had stagnant economies. You already capitulated towards non-West capitalists so, you know, not like you faggots have even a single rebuttal to them, and you basically have nothing to say when you’re reminded that the Soviets actually didn’t bring humanity anywhere closer to communism and probably pushed us back with their “based” slaughter of any leftist that disagreed with them, either directly in their own country or indirectly through their foreign proxies.
MLism is almost like a repudiation of communism in a way, and I’m pretty sure, in hindsight, having been an MLtard, the real reason you faggots hate Orwell is because you know you would actually support a shithole like Oceania and call it “Actually Existing Socialism” if you read the book.