No.461885
Currently there are two mainstream interpretations among historians regarding Yagoda. The first one comes from Yagoda himself
>he claimed that he was an active revolutionary from the age of 14 when he worked as a compositor on an underground printing press in Nizhny Novgorod, and that at the age of 15 he was a member of a fighting squad in the Sormovo district of Nizhny Novgorod, during the violent suppression of the 1905 revolution. He said he joined the Bolsheviks in Nizhny Novgorod at the age of 16
and the second one comes from former NKVD officer Aleksandr M. Orlov, who claimed that
>Yagoda invented his early revolutionary career and did not join the Bolsheviks until 1917, and that his deputy Mikhail Trilisser was dismissed from service for trying to expose the lie.
The Yagoda Third Pill (TYTP) synthesizes the first two positions (Yagoda said something + Yagoda lied) while adding a third proposition: Yagoda never existed. This way you have to read these three propositions backwards as such: 1) Yagoda was invented; 2) the inventors said Yagoda lied; 3) the invented Yagoda claimed otherwise.
Photographic evidence
First, the ""photographic"" evidence. Picrel1: the most famous """photograph""" of Yagoda is clearly edited using an original source and mirroring one half of the original man (let's call him "pseudo-yagoda") as pic2 proves.
Second, pic3 & pic4 shows the alleged Yagoda arrest card and the real Stalin arrest card under Tsarist Russia. (Disregard the fake yellowish discoloration for a second, that's sepia effect added later.) The forged "Yagoda arrest card" was stylized after Stalin's. Notice the same attire: black shoes, trousers, jacket, hat, white shirt. Also notice how this supposed "Young Yagoda" looks nothing like "Mature Yagoda" in pic 1.
Third, the supposed "Yagoda marches with young Khruschev" pic5. Look at it very closely! Notice something? Look closer. The picture of "them" is clearly added onto another background picture. Also of note. By this time Hitler was a known figure and whoever created the mirage known as "Yagoda" tried to make him look more and more like Hitler.
Anecdotal evidence
An American journalist who was allowed to join "him" on the trip described Yagoda as
>"a spare, slightly-tanned, trim looking, youngish officer"
adding that it was
>"difficult to associate terror with the affable and modest person".
Compare this to the chemist Vladimir Ipatieff's account who briefly met "him" in Moscow in 1918 and later recorded that he had thought that
>"it was unusual for a young man in his early twenties to be so unpleasant.
Clearly, there is a discrepancy here. First, someone who is pleasant person not possible to associate with terror, then someone who is unpleasant, a terrorist. But there's more. The same chemist Ipatieff met "Yagoda" later, and recalls that "his":
>"appearance had changed considerably"
Clearly, several people played the part of the supposed "Yagoda".
Further historic evidence
When supposed "Yagoda" was arrested in 1937 the newly appointed NKVD chief Yezhov accused him of
>diamond smuggling, corruption and working as a German agent since joining the party in 1917.
As I said above, the fiction of a "traitorous Yagoda" was to be associated with Germany, Hitler specifically. But this is where it gets beyond parody:
>It was discovered that Yagoda's two Moscow apartments and his dacha contained, besides a large collection of female clothing and apparel, 3,904 pornographic photos, 11 pornographic films, 165 pornographically carved pipes and cigarette holders, one rubber dildo, the two bullets that killed Zinoviev and Kamenev and 549 books - some of which were trotskyist works.
Clearly, since the soviets associated Nazis with degeneracy, they wanted to print accusations of ridiculousness such as this.
But most importantly, after the leadership change following Stalin's death
>Yagoda was the only defendant not to be posthumously rehabilitated.
The reason? There was nobody to rehabilitate. You can't rehabilitate a fiction.
Most likely conclusion
"Yagoda" was made up by the NKVD. He served several purposes over his fictional "existence."
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No.461891
The Bolsheviks also lied about being communists, so I think this is definitely possible.
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No.461892
>>461891Oh, they were communists alright, but, like us, they were composed of a number of different factions that were not entirely keen on one another.
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No.461893
>>461891>The Bolsheviks also lied about being communistsgonna need a sauce on this
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No.461894
>>461893I don't know. Maybe he's talking about Trotsky? Even in Trotsky's case, he seemed to have legitimately become one of Lenin's disciples. As critical as I am of Lenin's theory, he was about as staunch a communist as anyone.
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No.461895
>>461892>>461893>>461894You really don't know the true nature of the USSR? The supposedly "socialist" state, was really a totalitarian dictatorship, with state-capitalist workings.
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No.461896
>>461895Obvious troll is obvious.
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No.461897
>>461895>You really don't know the true nature of the USSR? The supposedly "socialist" state, was really a totalitarian dictatorship, with state-capitalist workings.B b b b based
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No.461899
>>461895>totalitarianUsually this word just refers to societies that capitalists aren't able to dominate and subject to a bourgeois dictatorship. It absolutely has no bearing on how the rest of the population is being treated. When Hugo Shavez began using the oil revenue of Venezuela to create poverty alleviation programs, they called that totalitarian.
That word has zero weight anymore.
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No.461911
>>461891>>461895>well ackshually anon, the USSR wasn't my ideal magical utopia>therefore the bolsheviks werent communist, checkmate tankiesyeah, the communists weren't omniscient and made many mistakes in their attempt to radically alter society, but i'm sure you could've done better. what the fuck did you expect would happen?
or maybe being a conservative is more your style.
BTW, notice how simple minds that can't grasp this basic fact of reality cant help but resort to conspiratorial thinking.
>>461905>y-y-you're all incels!the latest battlecry of every childish hypermoralist
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No.461913
>>461911The USSR was shit, and so are you.
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No.461916
>>461913I'm a leftcom, and even I have to admit that the USSR was something special. Sure, it's all that the leninists can possibly aspire to, but it was a thing of beauty none the less.
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No.461917
can we plz discuss TYTP?
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No.461920
>>461917No. Arguing with yet another underage idiot about muh totalitarianism is much more important and interesting somehow.
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No.461952
>>461920>muh totalitarianismBruh tankies still think the Soviet Union was heaven on Earth. Except it was a corrupt and reactionary empire, MLs are not marxists nor are they communists.
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No.461954
>>461952>still think the Soviet Union was heaven on Earth.Oh, THIS shit. "You defending something that means you think it's perfect and infallible, haha!" Seriously, i've seen that shit hundreds of times now, in many contexts, but i still don't have a slightest idea what compels every moron on internet i've ever met to spew this bullshit. THE HELL IS THIS, AND WHAT IN THIS THRICE CURSED WORLD MAKE YOU THINK IT'S A LEGIT ARGUMENT OR AT LEAST AN EFFECTIVE DEMAGOGIC TRICK?! ANSWER ME, WHAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR STUPID HEAD WHEN YOU WROTE THIS? No, really, i'm sincerely curious at this point.
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No.461957
>>461954Pure fucking idealism that's what all of the Soviet Union was. The Bolsheviks were the fucking counter-revolutionaries, glad to see their statues getting shit on. I was dancing and fucking laughing watching the "Marxist" eastern countries finally collapse, it was a real time of joy.