/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Kanye

There won't be a collapse.

This is a cope by powerless leftoids who are hoping the world's problems somehow get solved by some big cataclysm (part of their religious thinking). Instead, what you'll see is a graceless decline and further tyranny while clueless leftoids stand around scratching their heads and doing nothing (as usual) except occasionally screeching about the supposed fascism of anyone who actually opposes the powerful elite.

>>463247
You are such a retarded faggot. No one who says this thinks some how things will magically get better. It's a concession that we are doomed you tard.

>>463248
You are such a self important yet pessimistic faggot with nothing to offer the world except your own fart sniffing appraisal of yourself as 'muh imma good person.' No pretense of a solution, but a whole lot to say about what's worng. Basic energy vampire shit.

Go ahead though, keep defending your defunct left despite admitting that it's worthless and doesn't represent a challenge or solution to anything.

>Muh, everyone else is wrong. I'm right, but we're doomed

Huurhurr braindead fag

>>463248
>Left is when you feel hopeless and defeated. The more hopeless and defeated you feel, the more left you are.

My sides. And people wonder why this site has basically become a platform for people to make fun of the left. Spoiler alert: nothing is stopping you from posting good leftist content. You just have nothing worthwhile to say.

>>463247
>There won't be a collapse.
Yeah, man, things can go on indefinitely, that's how history worACK

>>463247
>There won't be a collapse.
Every nation collapses now and again. It has been over a hundred years since the last time that the United States last collapsed and much longer since the last time that Great Britain collapsed. All that means is that they are due.

>>463256
This isn't just the cyclical look at the clock country collapse time, bro.

We are looking for an event akin to the collapse of the Roman Empire or European feudalism.

>>463267
>We are looking for an event akin to the collapse of the Roman Empire or European feudalism.
Something that gets drawn out over a thousand years? Why?

>>463268
Some empires fall in way shorter periods, e.g. Mongol Empire. As for the reasons in case of the USA:
>the empire reached its maximum territory/sphere of influence (Syria, Ukraine prove this, losing Africa and South America to China proves this)
>rampant corruption and incompetence among a gerontocratic leadership that can't renew itself anymore
>failing infrastructure, lawlessness, massive discontent among the populace
>loss of legitimacy inland and abroad (allies no longer trust it, even when they follow suit they have other agendas)
>power shifting to a competing bloc
>etc.

>>463281
>(Syria, Ukraine prove this, losing Africa and South America to China proves this)
It was odd how Trump just backed out of Syria to please the Turks and to avoid raising tensions with Russia. Ukraine has already gone better than the Americans could have possibly hoped for given that it has exposed the utter incompetence and surprising weakness of Russia (lol hypercock missiles that can't hit shit). I mean who would have thought that the Russian military would be this impotent? The only interests that the Americans had in Africa were related to oil, and the Seven Sisters haven't gone anywhere. South America being more heavily invested in by Chinese interests has not had any effect that runs contrary to the interests of capital, so meh. Hell, the Chinese are just as invested in the United States as they are in South America.

That's one of the central things that anti-imperialist turd-worldists misunderstand about the "American Empire"–The United States is a barracks, a place where the global bourgeoisie keeps its soldiers. It is not some feudal lord sitting upon a golden throne collecting taxes from the world. The United States is an instrument that keeps capital flowing. Thus, when the supposed "empire" falls, it will be as a symptom of capital failing.

>>463282
Keep your cope in your containment thread please.

>>463244
Every time someone predicts the collapse of America, it gets delayed by one year.

>>463254
Nothing lasts forever, but the end of America might not be in the form of a fracturing of an empire but as a component into some kind of neoliberal superstate. Like, you people have no idea how bad it can get.

>>463282
>Ukraine has already gone better than the Americans could have possibly hoped
you are that guy from the parallel universe

>>463286
US offered Zelenskyy a way out of Ukraine because they were predicting collapse within a month. The fact that Ukraine is still around, that its military is not only fighting, but succeeding, is nothing short of a miracle, mostly helped by the utter incompetence of Russian command.

>>463288
>Ukrainian military bogged down in a meatgrinder over a worthless piece of land
>top military commander just said the war is lost unless the US rains hardware on them
>US instead sends Zelensky home after his PR visit with a single useless Patriot missile battery
>guys, w-were succeeding!
You are a very funny court jester, much like your leader. Tell us another joke please.

>>463294
If it's a meat grinder, then Russians are what's in the sausage.

>>463294
Didn't Putin say he'd have this wrapped up in a week?

>>463302
I mean, that's about how long it usually takes for a supposed superpower to rout the military of a small, weak nation.

>>463294
>Ukrainian military bogged down in a meatgrinder over a worthless piece of land
Ukrainians are defending in Bakhmut, and it's not worthless to the Russians, which is reason enough to hold it.
>top military commander just said the war is lost unless the US rains hardware on them
And they also said that about making advances in Kherson and Kharkiv. Look how that turned out.
>US instead sends Zelensky home after his PR visit with a single useless Patriot missile battery
If it's so useless, why are you obsessed with it? Wasn't HIMARS useless as well?
>You are a very funny court jester, much like your leader. Tell us another joke please.
The Russian military.

>>463320
>And they also said that about making advances in Kherson and Kharkiv. Look how that turned out.
No, I'm afraid the commander of the Ukrainian military did not say that. You delusional moron.

>>463321
Yes, dipshit. He also said that about the previous offensives. He said they did not have the ability to carry out large counteroffensives without hundreds of tanks. You haven't been paying attention.

>>463327
Present a source. Here's the source for
Zaluzhny's recent statements:
https://www.economist.com/zaluzhny-transcript

>>463329
I know about his recent statement.
This article is authored by Zaluzhny and Zabrodskyi.
>Preparation of an offensive campaign demands that Ukraine sets up one or more operational (operational-strategic) groupings of forces consisting of 10 to 20 combined arms brigades, depending on the intent and ambitions of the Ukrainian Command. In the current situation, the above could be done exclusively by replacing the main types of armament available to the already existing brigades with modern ones, provided by Ukraine's partners. Separately, a need should be highlighted to obtain more missiles and ammunition, artillery systems, missile launchers, EW assets, etc. All of this will require consolidated efforts of all partner countries, while taking up a significant amount of time and financial resources.
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3566404-prospects-for-running-a-military-campaign-in-2023-ukraines-perspective.html
This article was written in September, before the Kherson retreat. The man has always said he needs more and that it will be critical to end this war with Ukrainian territory remaining part of Ukraine. You're stupid and don't pay attention because you only read Russian blogs and propaganda sources and think this is some kind of gotcha or admission of loss. Nobody ever said fighting Russia would be easy for the poorest nation in Europe, yet here we are, almost a year into this so-called "special military operation," with no end in sight and vatniks coping a few words said as if that changes the situation on the ground. Here's a hint, dipshit: Russia is going to lose this war and lose badly. This is why Putin is now screeching about how he just wants to negotiate, not realizing that the only negotiations the Ukrainians want to see is how much reparations Russia is going to have to pay and who will be tried at the Hague.