/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>467205

So are borders, money, and words - even "fake," here. What's it mean? It's gibberish. Just a bunch of chicken scratch imbued with arbitrary meaning, unless there's some reason to imbue it with meaning, some usefulness.

>>467214
And so is your manhood

>>467205
"fake" and "abstraction" are two different things and something being an abstraction doesn't inherently make it bad or not useful.

>>467221
Comrade dk just reupped and is ready to enlighten us

Socialism can unironically be somewhat monarchic.

have visited last year
here we go
>trashy neighborhoods, i mean lots of actual random trash
>social climate is that suspicion/distrust(extra burger toppings)
>Dogs wander the streets
>hipsters(gentrification)
>females usually are snobby cunts, also so many dykes
>residents are especially self centered
>chicano cringe pride
>globohomo condensed into a city
>cracked sidewalks, shitty roads
>streets are shit
>part of car culture is to ignore ambulances and not pull to the side
>excessive circle jerking among the labor aristocracy(its a union town)

anyway Mao Mao, Pol Pot, and Franny Franco were spot on about cities

>what is deindustrialization
>what is neoliberalism
<muh bureaucrats
<muh eye cue
Leftoids and cryptofash proving once again that they share the same quality of being historically illiterate

>>468657
>cryptofash
woot is dis

>>468657
Don't you have coffee to pour?

>>468662
probably busy having anal with a goat fish

>>468132
>lazy moderators
>semi-shit posts are realized to be semi-shit posts
>circle jerks get the acid treatment
thats all really

troon-joon modocracy tyranny

no gods no masters

transhumanists

>>467937
I'd honestly not be surprised if it's some white dude trolling

>>468631
no worker wears a suit of their own volition, it's literally a slur for a boss, manager etc.

it's like worker wearing a tophat - ridiculous

Here's the take from the Geopolitical Economy Report

https://invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=kseAIrInKcM

>>468602
about a 2/10 compared to based De Gaulle

>>468600
>he's actually a Multipolarista
It adds up actually

<Pootin raises the retirement age and russian cucks swallow it.
<Macron tries to do the same as his fellow multipolarista but gets massive riots and strikes.
I think Macron should blitzkrieg Germany next because Alsace-Lorraine needs national self-determination.

and yes, I know that Alsace-Lorraine is part of modern day France..

>>468521
Well, multi means more than one, so I guess a bipolar US-China Imperial redivision of the globe with new-era Tito-esque fence sitters is multipolar as well!

I mean he’s not completely converted. He still has an obsession with the middle class

I love reading pieces like this by actual rightoids who can fucking READ because it's really an interesting insight into how at least the intellectual thought processes of the other side.
Something I see the same with this author, and rightoid figures like say Hitchens is that they sound reasonable for the most part, but then become completely fucking blinded by their dumb preconcieved notions and moral/romantic views of the Middle Class, Capitalism etc
It always boils down to "Capitalism is actually good, but bad faith actors like cosmopolitian international capitalists are bad because they're not nationalistic so don't have loyalty". This is ridiculous, the reality is Marx was always right he just saw through the romanticsed views and saw the cold reality of Capitalist realism. These aren't bad faith actors, they're the most viciously successful element of the Capitalist class who Capitalism rewards.
The Marxist view isn't that Capitalists are bad people, they're just agents of capital. How can Marxism view Capitalists as bad people when Engels himself was a Capitalist elite? Again the Rightoid mind can't seem to seperate systematic logic from moralism. They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
I definitely get the view that the most intellectual rightoids, seem to be massive romantics and moralfags and this leads them to having utterly childish, "splitting" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology) ) views when confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism.

Also "Waah if Socialism is correct, why did the USSR collapse" uhh because the USSR was ruled by shitheads and Radlibs? Because the Materialist development for a transition to Socialism has not yet been achieved? (Unlike what this article claims (can be chocked up to Engels overeagerness), Marx seemed to imply that Socialism was literally hundreds of years away)

>>468607
>They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
This lacks basic common sense. Any successful communist party understood the personal quality of people of of paramount importance. I feel really bad for you if you can't distinguish between decent and shit people, and constantly fall back on, 'Well they're a prole so we're on the same side.' basically a prey mentality
>confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism
Let's ignore the cultish verbiage for a moment. The hallmark of scientific knowledge is the ability to manipulate and change that which is the object of study. By this very definition, considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.

>>468608
A prole can be an asshole, but he still has the same class relations and values than I do. I don't have to like people to stick up for them. I understand that personality disorders like BPD and ASPD exist and they SHOULD be kept away from movements and from power. But those are the exceptions rather than the rule, a decent system should be able to root out these types anyway.
I know plenty of Business people, they're "good" people, they polite, kind, do a lot of community stuff, blah blah, this doesn't stop the role they play in the Capitalist system, they are class enemies and when the moment of truth arises, the reality is, these people will most likely side with the forces of reaction.

>considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.

Western Marxism basically doesn't exist outside of Cockshott and a few other fringe autists who are treated as "red brown strasserites" by Baizuo. This doesn't disprove Marxism, all it debunks is Western "Leftists" from adhering to Scientific Socialist methods. Quickest way to see if a Baizuo is a Leftist, ask him to do a Materialist reading of Gender and explain how can they accept Transwomen are Women?

>>468458
relevant video (with dogshit audio)

>>468577
it looks like she got gangbanged by the cookie monster and elmo

>>468578
Even with the paint she's an 8

>>468578
even with the paint she looks like a taint

>>468580
Don't say things like that about her, she's very pretty.

>>468581
white knights belong @org gtfo

I wonder if I could have my cake and eat it. Be a right wing media grifter, but literally just engage in Marxist takes.
It seems when it comes to Idpol, being a Marxist is literally a far-right position according to Libs.

>>468569
Maybe if you can center on class politics you can gain support from people across the cultural spectrum. You should probably avoid using the bourgeois political left-right divide to understand politics. I think that would be limiting your self to cultural preferences of different bourgeois factions.

We may have to update our labels, because liberals are not liberal anymore, their focus is almost entirely on regulating the individual, they seem to be increasingly opposed to granting people more autonomy over their immediate environment, bodies, minds and personal possessions.

The liberals are also no longer championing social progress. For example there has been a huge regression in terms of prostitution. The liberals of the past used to agree with socialists that women ought not be forced to rent them selves out as prostitutes to affluent men. The people who see them selves as liberal today will explode in rage if you suggest that they can't command sex with money.

I'm also suspicious about other social theories from the liberals, i think it's going to be used to attack reproductive-rights for women. G-theory for example is minimizing the focus on the reproductive aspects of sexuality. This is certainly very convenient from the perspective of somebody trying to cloak their attacks on female reproductive rights. If womanhood is no longer defined by reproduction than the protections for womanhood will no longer cover reproduction.
The material explanation for this development might be that capitalism is attempting to commodify human-gestation. So that affluent bourgeois women no longer have to bare children but can rent surrogate wombs for that. Wealthy women will no longer need the protection of female reproductive rights to have autonomy over their bodies. They might even come to see it in the opposite light. The physical demands of pregnancy are a big disadvantage in the game of capital accumulation, and bourgeois women might see access to "womb-services" as a way to gain more "bourgeois-equality" compared to bourgeois men.

Socialists and people who used to be considered left would obviously be opposed to turning proletarian women into living gestation-pods for bourgeois spawn. But the liberals will likely champion this the same way they regressed on prostitution. I foresee surrogate womb services as a kindPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Finkelstein's definition of woke

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=EsffmdaoqZc

Look, I’m gonna level with you here. Like the vast majority of leftists who have been minted since Occupy Wall Street, my principles, values, and policy preferences don’t stem from a coherent set of moral values, developed into an ideology, which then suggests preferred policies. At all. That requires a lot of reading and I’m busy organizing black tie fundraisers at work and bringing Kayleigh and Dakota to fencing practice. I just don’t have the time. So my politics have been bolted together in a horribly awkward process of absorbing which opinions are least likely to get me screamed at by an online activist or mocked by a podcaster. My politics are therefore really a kind of self-defensive pastiche, an odd Frankensteining of traditional leftist rhetoric and vocabulary from Ivy League humanities departments I don’t understand. I quote Marx, but I got the quote from Tumblr. I cite Gloria Anzaldua, but only because someone on TikTok did it first. I support defunding the police because in 2020, when the social and professional consequences for appearing not to accept social justice norms were enormous, that was the safest place for me to hide. I maintain a vague attachment to police and prison abolition because that still appears to be the safest place for me to hide. I vote Democrat but/and call myself a socialist because that is the safest place for me to hide. I’m not a bad person; I want freedom and equality. I want good things for everyone. But politics scare and confuse me. I just can’t stand to lose face, so I have to present all of my terribly confused ideals with maximum superficial confidence. If you probe any of my specific beliefs with minimal force, they will collapse, as those “beliefs” are simply instruments of social manipulation. I can’t take my kid to the Prospect Park carousel and tell the other parents that I don’t support police abolition. It would damage my brand and I can’t have that. And that contradiction you detected, where I support maximum forgiveness for crime but no forgiveness at all for being offensive? For me, that’s no contradiction at all. Those beliefs are not part of a functioning and internally-consistent political system but a potpourri of deracinated slogans that protect me from headaches I don’t need. I never wanted to be a leftist. I just wanted to take my justifiable but inchoate feelings of dissatisfaction with the way things are and wrap them up into part of the narrative that I tell other people about myself, the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

At Oxford students now live in fear, they think cancelling each other will help them get ahead

<Even basic human connection is tainted at Oxford. Every student will at some point inevitably learn what’s known as a “hack” is, and realise that they did not make an enthusiastic new friend (“We should do coffee sometime, yeah?”), but in fact, the entire interaction was designed to get your vote for whatever minor position they may be running for that term. The coffee will never happen, and you won’t hear from them again until they pop up in your messages, asking for your vote.

<It’s been said that at Oxford “You don’t have friends, you have alliances”. However, even those are shaky at best. Whilst I imagine the nature of this has been the same for many years, it is certainly worse in ways today. At parties and events, people live in fear of something they say or do being recorded. This is more than just the effects of the internet age - it is well known that certain people, especially in student politics or journalism, often secretly audio record the entire evening in the hope of catching someone out.

<The worst part is that it doesn’t matter who it is they catch. People have publicly “cancelled” their closest friends, and even their partners. Furthermore, nothing is off limits to be used as material. Family issues, mental health, relationships - all of it can and will be used against you.

<Concerningly, some people do not even feel bound by the truth. They know that there is nothing their victim can do, and trying to do anything would just draw more attention to the claim, alongside requiring lengthy battles and lawyers not all students can afford. The process is the punishment, and the evidence will live online forever. And thanks to a popular anonymous Facebook page (the content of which is controlled by a few with vested interests), attacks can be made anonymously too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/21/oxford-university-students-intolerance-free-speech/

This is even more hardcore than i thought.

Meanwhile, burgers would literally let their boss have sex with their wives while they watch.

French protests.

https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash

FOUND MULTISTREAM FOR FRENCH PROTESTS.

https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash

>>468070
MULTISTREAM
neet

thanks

Based frog protestors stormed a Blackrock office

<Paris/London(CNN) Demonstrators forced their way into the building that houses BlackRock's office in Paris Thursday, taking their protest against the government's pension reforms to the world's biggest money manager.

<Videos shared on social media showed protesters entering the Centorial office block, located near the Opéra Garnier opera house, holding red flares and firing smoke bombs.

<About 100 people, including representatives of several labor unions, were on the ground floor of the building for about 10 minutes, chanting anti-reform slogans. BlackRock's office is located on the third floor.

<"The meaning of this action is quite simple. We went to the headquarters of BlackRock to tell them: the money of workers, for our pensions, they are taking it," Jerome Schmitt, spokesman for French union SUD, told CNN affiliate BFM-TV. BlackRock declined to comment.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/06/business/blackrock-office-stormed-paris-protests/index.html