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 No.483326[Reply]

Football fans and Gregg's connoisseurs from around England are currently rioting following the murder of three schoolchildren by an asylum seeker (Axel Rudakubana) and subsequent non-response by the courts. The riots have only escellated following Starmer's absolutely braindead response & the response of local law enforcement.

Bongs to follow for updates:
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK
https://x.com/visegrad24
https://x.com/Sargon_of_Akkad
https://x.com/AkkadSecretary
https://x.com/9mm_smg
https://x.com/TRobinsonNewEra
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 No.488243

>>488221
>Labour has been an increasingly Thatcherite party economically since Blair
Yeah Blair getting into Labor, kinda wrecked it. I think the neolibs think in terms of power-brokers, meaning they seek out positions in organizations and society at large in order to sell out. I bet you they think that is what everybody is doing. From the perspective of social democrats this was hostile infiltration.

I sometimes wonder if the left could have done something like this too. Except, you know, the other way around. You know in the 70s when neo-liberalism began to spread the rot. To be fair i don't really have a clue how to invert the power-broaker dynamic.
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 No.490406

>>488214
UK left is completely turbo pozzed LGBT and open borders cargo cult.
Left parties will never get off the ground here because there is no "big tent" they are working towards to bring across a standard working class agenda, so you will just get left parties that are extreme in all the wrong ways and follow whatever shitlib pozzed zeitgeist they get fed from largely US dominated Social Media.
This is why even most Green parties don't even focus on Environmental or Industrial/Agricultural policy anymore, because they got hijacked by every quack "left adjacent" group out there to push their personal agendas, and the only "cross faction" difference they need to cover, is how much "girldick" should you be forced to suck because being declared a real leftist.
>>488243
>I sometimes wonder if the left could have done something like this too.
Yes if the Western left was actually competent and had any basis in normal working class people at all. No in reality, because the Western Left is nothing more than a cargo cult of quack losers and freaks.
Honestly Corbyn when he played the game, and focused only on bread and butter working class economic issues with broad appeal, literally hit 45% in UK polling with the Tories sitting on 37%. Do you think the modern British left would accept Corbyn's popular policies like massively strengthening police powers and hiring 40k more police? Of fucking course not.
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 No.490407

>>488221
>My bet is that poster above you is an oblivious sufferer of duopoly brainrot
Or it was sarcasm so advanced that a galaxybrain such as yourself couldn't detect it.

>Labour has been an increasingly Thatcherite party economically since Blair

Is that why taxes are higher than ever, public spending is higher than ever, and millionaires are fleeing the country in record numbers?
https://londondaily.com/over-10-000-millionaires-depart-from-the-uk-in-a-year-amid-changing-financial-landscape
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 No.490640

>>490407
Millionares are fleeing the UK because it's an absolute miserable fucking shithole that is going to the dogs.
If you are a british Millionare, and your assets are being taxed in any meaningful way, you're actually retarded. The UK literally set up the global system of tax avoidence.


 No.489198[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>487384

Updates and current status since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 61,000. Excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

In early January 2025, Israel agreed to a ceasefire in Gaza and a prisoner exchange. Despite all of the killing, Hamas's military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, appears to have largely replenished its numbers. Israel proceeded to violate the ceasefire with airstrikes and a resumption of their illegal blockade of Gaza before resuming full-scale attacks in March and destroying the ceasefire entirely.

Israel has continued to violate the ceasefire with Lebanon more than 600 times, and has refused to leave the country entirely after multiple delays. After months of the IDF violating the ceasefire in the south of Lebanon, Israel returned to bombing Beirut in March.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by US-backed al-Qaeda operatives. Israel proceeded to steal more land from Syria and launched a massive bombing campaign on Syria and Syria's arsenal without any resistance. Meanwhile, Abu Mohammed al-Jolani, the leader of HTS and current de facto leader of Syria, has launched attacks on Lebanon and attacked Palestinian liberation factions within Syria.

The International Criminal Court issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnayahu and Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The ICC also issued warrants against Hamas leaders.

Following the warrants, the Biden administration invited Yoav Gallant to the White House.

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 No.490638

Al-Qassam’s military spokesman Abu Obaida:

“Our enemy is being supplied by the world’s most oppressive powers with endless convoys of weapons and ammunition, while the regimes and forces of our own nation stand by watching their brothers in the land of resistance being slaughtered by the tens of thousands, starved, denied water and medicine.

The leaders, elites, and scholars of the Islamic and Arab world bear the heavy burden of the blood of tens of thousands of innocent people betrayed by their silence.

The enemy would not have dared commit this genocide so openly had it not been assured of impunity, guaranteed silence, and bought betrayal.

We do not absolve anyone of responsibility for the ongoing bloodshed, nor do we exempt anyone who has the power to act—each according to their capacity and influence.”
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 No.490639

https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1946337109419188676
Yemeni Armed Forces announces that it targeted Ben Gurion Airport with a Palestine-2 missile, disrupting
airport operations and sending settlers fleeing to shelters.

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1946273961777459688
BREAKING: Hezbollah Secretary General vows to fight Israel in defence of Lebanon to “victory or Martyrdom”

Sheikh Naim Qassem, speaking live said that the Lebanese group “will never surrender” & that his country faces three primary threats today:

1- Israel
2- ISIS linked elements on its eastern border
3- American conspiracies to dismantle the nation

The Hezbollah leaders language suggests that a defensive operation will take place against Israel, following its failure over 8 months to implement the ceasefire agreement.
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 No.490641

Statement from Catholic Arcivescovo Carlo Maria Viganò:

The bombing of the Church of the Holy Family—the only Catholic parish in Gaza—is yet another brazen and murderous attack by Israel in violation of international law. Latin Patriarch Cardinal Pizzaballa himself has questioned the sincerity of Prime Minister Netanyahu's words, who attributes the attack to an error, since there are no targets in the immediate vicinity of the church.

Leo deplores the victims of the attack in Gaza, but does not mention its perpetrators.

Netanyahu, responsible for the attack, thanks Leo and reiterates that Israel protects the safety of civilians and holy sites. Meanwhile, with absolute impunity, Israel strikes the defenseless civilian population of Gaza with Western weapons and attacks Lebanon, Syria, and Iran.

Numerous members of the Israeli government support the Zionist project of "Greater Israel" because, since the end of the 19th century, the Messiah awaited by the Jews has been the Jewish State. This ideology (a true "heresy" of Judaism) considers Jews to be a superior race by divine decree, and on the basis of this self-proclaimed superiority—and the inferiority of the goyim that it implies—Israel considers itself justified in violating every moral principle and demands to enjoy absolute impunity.

No president or prime minister of Tel Aviv's vassal nations—first and foremost the United States of America—will ever dare to speak out, as they are most likely being blackmailed by Mossad and its emissaries.

If this were the Russian Federation, what would be the reaction of the international community?

How many more deaths and injuries will we have to witness before the United States of America and the entire West wake up from this subservience to a state that replicates with greater ferocity (after having been a victim of it) the horrors of National Socialist totalitarianism?
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 No.490642

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1946661195689128105
Hamas release footage of their fighters destroying two tanks & gunning down Israeli soldiers

The screams of Israeli soldiers can be heard, as 3 are shot dead from close range.

This ambush occurred in Jabalia Al-Balad (northern Gaza).
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 No.490647



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 No.490628[Reply]

When I first started working in the tech industry, I didn't understand the point of Scrum. I couldn't recall a single time when I thought that our daily meetings actually mattered. It wasn't long before my attention was captured by the horrors of writing mountains of documentation that would never be read, living through Jira hell, and nearly going mad from the pointless rituals of test-driven development and eXtreme(ly shitty) Programming.

The story I was sold is that all these big ideas are bigly necessary because big complex systems need big complex teams, which in turn need these big ideas. This struck me as a big damn lie. All you really need is good code, which needs good developers, which needs good teamwork - duh, right? But what follows is a bunch of bullshit boilerplate, standards and methodologies. Why? Because they serve to obscure the root of the problem: people giving a shit about the shit they're doing so that they can do it well.

If you're hiring people to maintain some voodoo code written by an overworked and disgruntled codemonkey ten years ago, or refusing to hire junior devs because you need "real talent" to maintain your Kafkaesque SaaS nightmare, then problem runs a *lot* deeper than just "not being agile enough" or whatever the hell other coping mechanisms we use to repress the problem. These insane business practices that drive insane development practices are literally insane, because they do the same thing over and over and over again - fixing the problems created by fixing the problems created by fixing the problems.

What the professional commentariat - the business gurus and glorified cultists, the chattering classes who preach incessantly on such matters - avoid mentioning is that the crux of good management involves _protecting the workers from such pathologies so that they can do their damn jobs._ The workers can learn to direct and motivate themselves if they want to, and they will if they have the freedom to do it. In one sentence: *They need to be given tools and techniques, not pizzas and parenting.* This has nothing to do with "agile processes" or "servant leadership" or whatever other perverted corporate ideologies that are being peddled to the successfully incompetent - it's a working-class reality.

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 No.490629

Obviously a lot of this can be solved with Actually Democratic workplaces.
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 No.490636

>>490629
Sure, and this is where I admire people like Richard Wolff. Even Jim Coplien's critique of agile points in this direction, though it still remains within the tech industry logic to a large extent. But my point about Cookie Clicker Capitalism is that this is a structural problem that can't be easily solved by just throwing workers co-ops at it; the neoliberal capitalist system rewards the spectacle of work far more than real, productive work. I'm not saying that we shouldn't push for "economic democracy" or whatever you want to call it, but that it will ultimately need a political programme as well in order to be meaningful in the long-term. Otherwise, the Cookie Clicker Capitalists will always have the most cookies, and the successfully incompetent will continue to succeed.


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 No.490348[Reply]

Greeting's from PR.China)
Its my first time using leftypol ,so actually I don't get how to use it correctly ,will keep learning I guess. Cause of the firewall, we Chinese seldom have chances to communicate with foreigners,especially politalcal communication :(
So I'm kind of curious to know how foreigner comrades think of China ,on other websites I can only find tons of, trash informations (Must know what Im saying lol) Also, I may answer some questions too,welcoming communication
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 No.490526

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>>490348
What are your recommended essential books on Chinese statecraft, warcraft, and spycraft?

What about the essentials for understanding Chinese culture, philosophy, and psychology?

Thank you!

As a foreign comrade in the U.S., have found China to be quite mysterious due to contradictory progaganda over the years. I see China as biding their time for capitalist nations to cannibalize themselves, avoiding conflicts as much as possible as recommended by Sun Tzu. Have read China is becoming more Americanized, with the youth embracing Halloween(with it being mostly restricted or banned), rap(before being banned), and 90s sitcoms(rumored to be circulated underground). Also read the government suppresses unions/workers to avoid Western bureaucratic pitfalls and excessive middle men. Have also heard the chinese are more liberal with their racism, though not as hateful or grudging with it and it is not as taboo to criticize whatever minority groups.

Regarding China's socialist aspects, they seem to be very fickle, given their actions during the Cold War and inaction afterwards, The chinese seem to be nationalists dipped in red. Heard from Chinese-American (who admires modern China but detests socialism) argue that Marxism conflicts with Chinese culture and is antithetical and only a label at this point. Personally, given the fact of seeing enough videos of Chinese industrial workers getting crushed and maimed, it seems socialism is only an aesthetic at this point with the poor work conditions.

Overall, see China as the lesser of many evils not a savior
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 No.490551

>>490526
Since you didn't get a reply from OP i'll try.

>What are your recommended essential books on Chinese

>statecraft
Xii Jinping wrote a book about that. Can't recall the title, sry. Could be something like 'Governance of China in the modern era.'
>warcraft
Historic: Sun Tzu (as you mentioned) and Mao
Modern: i got nothin

>essentials for understanding Chinese culture, philosophy, and psychology?

i got nothin on that either

>I see China as biding their time for capitalist nations to cannibalize themselves, avoiding conflicts as much as possible

That is their attitude for the world at large, but they do want 'the string of Perls' aka the military encirclement by the US removed.
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 No.490572

>>490526
Sorry for not replying to you in a timely manner.

>What are your recommended essential books on Chinese statecraft, warcraft, and spycraft?

For the official governance methods in China, you can choose to read "Xi Jinping Talks about Governance", which has an official English translation.As for the warcraft and spycraft sections, to my knowledge, there are no official books specifically introducing these topics, as these strategic issues are not so openly discussed in China.However, you may be able to search for websites and magazines aimed at Chinese military enthusiasts, where you may find the answers you are looking for。

>What about the essentials for understanding Chinese culture, philosophy, and psychology?

If you want to have a detailed understanding, then there are plenty of things you need to read.But the simplest way, as the comrade who answered for me said, Mao's books can help you quickly understand all of this.By the way, you can also read some books by Lu Xun, as he is widely recognized as one of the most revolutionary writers of the early 20th century in China.

Yes, young people in China consider some customs from foreign countries as fashionable, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Just like foreigners sometimes celebrate the Chinese Spring Festival, I think it has closed the gap between people in different countries.It's just that the consumerist atmosphere inside makes me feel a bit…nah
Unfortunately, if I understand correctly, you seem to have made some mistakes about the situation of Chinese trade unions. China's suppression of trade unions has not solved the problems of bureaucracy or intermediaries. The government only suppresses workers who organize unofficial trade unions to protect their rights, while government established trade unions do not work for workers' rights at all.And yes, China allows complaints from the public about minority groups because the goverment needs to divert people's attention

Simply put, Mao appeared to be a nationalist because he needed China to serve socialism (Stalin's theory of building socialism in one country).And those who after him, in my opinion, regarded socialism as a tool to serve the Chinese nation.So when some principles of socialism hinder the strength of the Chinese countrPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.490573

>>490551
>They don't export the revolution, true. Their contribution to socialist projects in other countries is that they continue trading with them, negating weaponized isolationism.
During the Mao era, China provided support to other revolutionary forces in Asia, even aiding Albania in Europe.However, after that, as a price for joining the World Trade Organization, China officially gave up exporting revolution and only did business with countries around the world.

>It's lower stage socialism. They have social wins like dramatic poverty reduction, really good public infrastructure, really steep rise in wages/living standards and expanding public services. They're genuinely striving towards 'real' socialism at a snails pace.

In the eyes of the left-wing in China, just like Brezhnev's "developed socialism", the primary stage is completely a deceitful lie

Thank you for your reply on my behalf. It was very accurate.
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 No.490614

>>490572
>>490573
Thanks to you both, sorry for saying it so late. How’d you even find this dead site?


 No.484519[Reply]

what is to be done about the masses of sheeple who always do whatever the empire tells them to do? how are we supposed to organize in solidarity with vaxies who support vax mandates? how am I supposed to deal with people who vote in support of genocidal zionist politicians like Harris, Trump, and Kennedy even though it's clear they are screwing their own voters regardless? what are we supposed to do about the brainwashed, bloodthirsty psychos who support the global 4th reich?
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 No.484574

That said, compliance is no longer an option, and all of the compliance with COVID was premised on fear and marking down the enemies of the "Jehad". It was inevitable after what you allowed to happen in the 1990s. The eugenists brag that you were operating the death camps and couldn't stop them. A Satanic race cannot change.
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 No.484586

Propaganda is a helluva drug, but good teaching and persuasion principles apply here. Use the Socratic Method, lean into evidence whenever possible, develop a habit of tactfully reminding people when their assertions haven't been supported enough to be arguments. When someone realizes that they can't support their own beliefs in a friendly, non-confrontational setting, that's when the conditioning starts to break down.
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 No.484590

Have you consodered tgat most sheeple are "truthseekers" like you and hence why theyre the easiest to dupe?

The game of mass deception is avhievable because of "alternative" media.
Most "alternative" media spreads the same biases as their respective mainstream counterparts.

In fact, alot of alternative news media are indirectly corporately owned.

Even if not, most "truthseekers" are unable to read further than pop culture cliches.
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 No.484919

>>484586
I've found more common ground with conservative and libertarians than the liberal types where I live. Libs will smugly and self-righteously support literal fascism and talking to them has been largely a waste of my time and a test of my patience.
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 No.490597

>>484919
That's strange. Usually everyone hates libertarians


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 No.486001[Reply]

Yoon Suk Yeol (emphasis on the suck) has declared martial law, out of the blue. Probably because he's loosing power, his approval rating tanked, there's scandals surrounding his wife and the opposition is blocking his political programs.

The pretext he gave for the martial law was "eradicating the pro north Korean communist forces"
If only there were communist forces about to topple the wannabe dictator of BRoK
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 No.486971

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2025/01/jk-kim-dong-wook-faces-legal-complaint-for-violating-south-koreas-foreign-nationals-political-activity-ban
In the document, the complainant stated, “JK Kim Dong Wook (John Kim) relinquished his South Korean citizenship to acquire Canadian citizenship, making him a foreign national. According to Article 17 of the Immigration Control Act, foreign nationals residing in South Korea are prohibited from engaging in political activities. Violators may face penalties.”
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 No.487956

From Twitter:
KF-16 Accidentally Bombs South Korean Town
During a joint military exercise between the U.S. and South Korea, a South Korean KF-16 fighter jet accidentally dropped eight 500-pound bombs in the residential area of Dong-myeon, Gyeonggi Province, injuring between seven to fifteen civilians according to different reports. The incident occurred close to the North Korean border, highlighting concerns about military operations near populated areas.
https://x.com/i/trending/1897530854777479338
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 No.487957

>>487956
I bet the DPRK news said something like
<Clumsy imperialist pig-dogs bombing their own people.
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 No.487962

https://x.com/NatalieRevolts/status/1897591027076055234
Footage of South Korea/US "accidentally" bombing a church in southern Korea.
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 No.490591

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1944360661384855570
North Korea said on Sunday it stands ready to take military action to counter any security threat against it in a warning against the U.S., South Korea & Japan following a recent aerial drill by the allies with a US strategic bomber. (KCNA)


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 No.489611[Reply]

Anarcho-capitalism is impossible because no ideal society is possible, anarchy is disobedience to authority and free association and communism is a movement that abolishes the present state of things, not a society. If our history is class struggle then thinking about the future society is a distraction from it. Nothing but praxis matters, the strength of the far-left isn't that its ideal societies are better but rather that they actually do shit instead of sitting on the Internet all day and mining crypto or voting in elections and marching on meaningless protests that lead nowhere and achieve nothing or supporting economic superpowers that don't care about them and barely acknowledge their existence.

Go read Bordiga or Negri or whatever, I dunno.
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 No.490513

>>490511
>Meanwhile people literally starved to death in Ukraine.
Notably, for the last time in history in a region with regular famines records for centuries.
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 No.490574

>>490456
>>490457
capitalism is the contradiction between bourgeois social relations and the forces of production
a capitalist economy is the general market of commodities produced for profit through privately ownership of the means of production
the capitalist mode of production is the specifically capitalist surplus extraction mechanism constituted by a wage contract formed between legally free and equal parties
(different modes of production can coexist within the same society within the constraints of the dominant mode of production)
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 No.490575

>>490574
You didn't address my critique of this mealy-mouthed imprecision at all. Did slavery and feudalism become not-slavery and not-feudalism when the state did the same thing private individuals did? Will you seriously call what the German Empire did in the 19th century not-capitalism because the state came in and arranged wage labor and production?
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 No.490579

>>490575
>You didn't address my critique of this mealy-mouthed imprecision at all
thats because i didnt intend to
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 No.490587

>>490446
Anarcho-capitalism is mostly a post-pubescent ideology


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 No.490583[Reply]

I think reason why we are so unpopular is due to us being cuntish.
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 No.490584

I think trusting entities who's only purpose is profit is insane.
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 No.490586



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 No.490362[Reply]

The Second `French Revolution`

Is increasingly clear there is an intense fight to eliminate nationalism.
Who and why have almost become irrelevant at the face of severity and urgency of the situation.
But my best guest is that the wealthy class coupled with ideological groups like academic communists clique and religious groups (there are intersecting circles as well as opposing circles on other issues. because life is not that simple). They all formed an alliance to suffocate and wipe out nationalism.

Humanity needs to make a choice. Either let it play out and accept the ideals of a unity and try to eradicate the racial differences. Or embrace the differences and take step towards the next level of the nation-sate: ethno-state.


Shall we aspire for popular uprisings to protect the national identities as second 'French Revolution' {actually a Polish Revolution or a Balkan Revolution or a European Spring?} (Since the French is digested anyway by the wealthy global ruling elite) against the global clique of nameless families and individuals who have been pulling the strings behind the scenes for far too long?

(I Dont wanna seem like I like Europeans, I want African states to set colonialism tribunals to punish to EUropeans and demans $trillions in reparations)

{I focus on europe because it is the region getting the most rape from the global ruling class and become their lab for the ethnic experiment. but I guess CHina and India is far from their reach at the moment anyway.}

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 No.490408

>>490385
>>490385
workers? wake up Neo, its no 1800s-1920s anymore. things change a lot. workers arent so important anymore also businesses evolved way beyond from those times. a person sitting on a desk can create incredible wealth, the workers cannot run business anymore.
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 No.490411

>>490408
Nah dude you are being myopic.
Something cannot come from nothing. You will always need labor. Most labor today is done over seas by children though and Chinese. That's what allows you to sit at your cush desk job. I worked a desk job for three years and I couldn't take it. There's more to life than that.
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 No.490430

>>490408
>workers arent so important anymore
>a person sitting on a desk can create incredible wealth
Who creates wealth? Workers.
If they know how to create the wealth then they're already operating the business. They're just not receiving the value they create.
This is marxism 101 dumbass. Why are you here peddling infantile pro-capitalist takes?
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 No.490581

>>490430
who created the wealth of apple an nvidia(((????))) can workers own and run these companies?
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 No.490582

>be me
>go into every thread on leftychan.net with a list of corporations
>"but SURELY u all will agree that the self-made capitalist owner of [name of random company from my list] had more to do with the value of the company than the thousands of workers whose knowledge and labor is actually required to design, manufacture, and transport the products!!!"


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 No.488824[Reply]

Shitlibs seem to think that conservative politicians genuinely believe in their bs if they're not outright Nazis who want to establish the Fourth Reich. But what do you think? Do conservatives genuinely believe what they're saying or are they just vicarious parasites who say it just so the proles leave them alone with their complaints and are actually absolute deviants behind the scenes?
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 No.490519

>>488824
First and foremost they are pedophiles
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 No.490552

>>488824
most politicians don't believe in their own view. political views exist purely to attach people to certain politicians, to get votes, and eventually get bribed either way. politics is a shitshow and the current democratic system sucks.
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 No.490553

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>>490552
>democratic
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 No.490561

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>>488824
>Trump
Is a 90s Democrat the only reason he is considered "conservative" is because the overton window has moved so far to the Left.

>Putin

You know literally nothing about him that hasn't been filtered through western propaganda.
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 No.490565

>>490561
Truno flip flopped between Democrat and Republican for years.
He's a fiercely independent libertarian.


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