https://matrix.to/#/!kzoqXuohBiiRfMupqm:matrix.org?via=matrix.orgHello everyone, we are attempting to involve the users more in our decisionmaking process by making a public moderation discussion room. We (the mods) intend to try use this chat instead

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New public matrix chat room for administrative matters Anonymous ## Mod 04/10/21 (Sat) 03:18:59 No.4169

https://matrix.to/#/!kzoqXuohBiiRfMupqm:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Hello everyone, we are attempting to involve the users more in our decisionmaking process by making a public moderation discussion room. We (the mods) intend to try use this chat instead of our normal private chat in order to get closer to the user base. Users can also post in the chat but should stay on topic and try not to be disruptive.

I hope some of you will find this to be an interesting experiment.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 03:21:48 No.4170

Hi, you must be new here! We already have a >>>/meta/ board :)

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 03:44:40 No.4171

Your crimes will not be forgotten wrecker jannies.

AJAB

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 04:02:49 No.4172

>>4171
go back lol

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 04:07:43 No.4173

>>4170
kek

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 04:15:16 No.4174

>>4171
stay mad counter-revolutionary

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 04:30:51 No.4175

Patiently waiting for a hobby room, a tech room, an edu room, a games room, an anime room and a music room on the matrix server.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 05:23:11 No.4176

>>4171
While I've had my issues with the staff in the past, this is actually a surprisingly positive development that constitutes a complete shift in how /leftypol/ moderation has interacted with the user base in the past. Keeping all discussion behind closed doors and neglecting to keep anons involved in decision making was a policy which continuously caused disaster on every iteration of /leftypol/, and for once I have to say I'm impressed that the mods decided to let anons be involved in the discussions regarding how the board is run and keep us in the loop. It's a breath of fresh air to the closed off backroom dealings we have become accustomed to, and if it is a trend towards more developments like this, then I cautiously look forward to what the future may bring. "Cautiously" being the key word though.

Regardless of our likely mutual disagreements with jannies both present and past, I think even you can admit that actually consulting and involving anons is a good thing. Its actually rather unprecedented for /leftypol/ historically.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 05:23:25 No.4177

>>4171
Currency, please.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 05:24:45 No.4178

>>4170
I know this is a joke, in all seriousness, /meta/ doesn't actually allow us to observe mod discussion.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 07:19:40 No.4179

>>4175
Someone made a /tech/ room in the last day: https://app.element.io/#/room/#leftylambda:matrix.org

forgive me if that link doesn't work I haven't figured out how the matrix room names work yet

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 07:25:57 No.4180

>>4175
There is a tech room, a games room, and a tv/film room
https://matrix.to/#/+leftychat:matrix.org

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 09:38:31 No.4181

It seems the mods want to kill the site and lure everyone to their namefagging web3.0 chatrooms: >>>/tech/7754

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 09:44:41 No.4182

>>4181
This isn't even sanctioned by the mods you autist.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 09:45:57 No.4183

>>4175
here's an idea: make a chat thread instead and stop the boards being dead.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 09:52:35 No.4184

>>4178
Instead of moving to a different chatroom, they could have moved to >>>/meta/.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 10:06:10 No.4185

>>4184
tbf this has problems for moderation, for example if the site is spammed to the point of being unusable.

Anonymous ## Mod 04/10/21 (Sat) 10:07:27 No.4186

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>>4170
>>4184
The reason we have not moved all mod discussion to /meta/ is because an imageboard is not a conducive environment to working out issues, it's an environment suited to writing out polemics. The instant feedback of the Matrix chat helps us to confer with each other and come to compromises.

I understand that not everyone wants to join a separate chat, and we will always attempt to ensure that we represent the users of leftypol.org and not just the users of Matrix. However, this is an optional avenue of transparency for those people that are interested in overseeing our decision-making process.

>>4185
Also yes, the Matrix functions on the rare occasions that the board doesn't which allows us to get it back running.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 10:19:03 No.4187

>>4186
Well definitely make sure to update the /meta/ sticky so no-one has false expectations of /meta/ and everyone knows where to go to find something.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 10:20:55 No.4188

>>4187
We will continue to make vote announcements and so on on /meta/, the new constitution obliges us to do so in fact. Feedback of board-only users is still important.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 10:43:57 No.4189

>>4188
Yet your chat buddies get preferential treatment.

priliv 04/10/21 (Sat) 11:13:09 No.4190

>>4189
yes because they use a means of communication that is more convenient, this is simple to understand anon

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 13:36:48 No.4191

>>4190
>implying using an off-site matrix that we all know is already a clique for mod team and friends is more convenient than having a thread on the board we all collectively use.
ridiculous. Fuck off.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 13:45:41 No.4192

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>>4191

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 13:50:11 No.4193

>>4190
It is more convenient to you, but not to the anonymous users.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 13:55:08 No.4194

>>4192
>implying the matrix isn't a hangout for the hyper-autist zoomers.
okay

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:03:06 No.4195

>>4191
There are valid complaints to make about the mods, but this isn't it. We've been demanding for years, before even .org, for the staff to be more transparent and make their discussions public. This is exactly what we've been pursuing. With the /meta/, it's just the staff responding to the rare user question, and then discussing things and voting amongst themselves elsewhere out of view. With this, we can actually see their discussions. Even if you don't use it, it's still beneficial to have if only to observe. And it can't be a clique if other anons use it, that's one of the main points to make it public. I haven't ever used Matrix, but I just made a throwaway account to keep tabs on this yesterday.
>>4193
Matrix is actually anonymous. I literally just put my name as anon, and I would advise others to do the same and not link their's to anything.

priliv 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:12:09 No.4196

>>4193
>>4191
There is no difference for anons because the secret mod chat is now public on the matrix, if you are salty that it is easier for other users to see the mods action,while you are left
>>4195
unaffected then you can just make a throwaway account and lurk. You are no more anon here then, since your ip is recorded

see
>>4195

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:17:38 No.4197

>>4195
You have to register an account on a homeserver. That's not anonymous.

priliv 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:22:10 No.4198

>>4197
so matrix.org or whatever server you pick has the ip you post with? That's it no? How is this different than posting on leftypol?

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:29:31 No.4199

>>4197
you can access by tor i believe

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:30:54 No.4200

>>4197
>>4198
also element is federated with matrix protocol i think meaning you could host your own server even and still work to join element rooms but idk tbh

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 14:35:56 No.4201

>>4198
If I wanted to use accounts I would be on reddit, not here.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 16:04:19 No.4202

>>4197
Your account is not actually shown unless you make it shown, you can set a display name. All messages are also encrypted, and account deactivation takes everything with you (save for what messages other users have). Registration also requires no personal info whatsoever, and you can set it to not have recovery as well.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 16:09:09 No.4203

>>4201
Just set your username and display name as anon, and make yourself undiscoverable. No other information is required. It's mostly just to keep tab on the mods anyway.

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 17:01:46 No.4204

>>4170
based

Anonymous 04/10/21 (Sat) 18:05:01 No.4205

>>4200
The desktop client can be routed over tor as well. Not sure how, check out the operations thread >>152258

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