/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>444873
my numby wumby

>>487934
>>487916
Yeah it happened.
Basically, Caballo was refusing to follow his own rules and constantly stepping out of line so there was an attempt to create some democratic methodology by Comatoast, Zero, and Watermelon with the supprt of some other users, but, they had a backdoor in Krates which had been inactive for like a year at that point.

Can't believe that's you, what a twist.

>>489460
>this fuckin piece of
Yeah the profusely polite Alexander Mercouris described Starmer as a non-entity.

Maybe they should apply the "terror act" (that naming scheme is a terror act all by itself) to Starmer and Co if only to insensitive getting rid of that sh..oddy legislation.

Craig Murray: ''"The complete lack of curiosity by the UK media as to why a trio of Eastern European "male models", at least one of whom was an "escort", just burnt several properties belonging to Keir Starmer, is extraordinary.
This is not normal."''
https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1925309794706993501

>>489672
So Kid Starver finally caught some blowback ?

Murry's right that it's not normal if you consider the post WW2 period of moderation by increased democratic influence as the norm. However if you also consider British imperial history, then having a psychotic mainstream media, is just a return to the mean.

The Metropolitan Police must arrest Keir Starmer IMMEDIATELY!

>>489702
this is too on the nose, he's got to be aware about what he's doing, right ?

>>489668
Some are saying it was a false flag

>>489704
Based.

>>489705
>Some are saying it was a false flag
I've seen that. It certainly could be. I don't personally think that it is, but then that would make it a good false flag wouldn't it?

I think the idea that there was anything unreasonable or unlikely about this is a stretch. The manifesto was reasonable, the action was reasonable, and the frustration which, if it is not a false flag, led to the action is completely warranted. The most surprising thing about this is that it took so long to occur. Astonishingly, despite over a year of aggressive crackdowns, witch hunts, arrests, attacks, and murders both in Gaza and in the US targeting Palestinians, there has been nothing like this. There has been protest after protest, and those hundreds of thousands of people who have shouted slogans and marched patiently have been constantly smeared as terrorists by the highest criminals in politics & media. What few politicians opposed the genocide have been shut out. Court cases have been dismissed on the grounds that the president is too big to sue even if he's guilty, so it's out of the court's jurisdiction. Every avenue of peaceful opposition failed dramatically by a year ago, and still the orgs insist on peace and marches.

The idea that any organization could realistically have prevented something like this from occurring over such a long span of such tyranny and brutality and callousness is foolish. It has been the orgs who have devoutly held Americans back from taking such actions, and I think that this was, at best, a mistake. An organized opposition to the bombs, to the supremacism, to the theft, could utilize all its numbers to act much more effectively and meet the momentum of the moment with great force and accomplish a lot. Instead, very little has been accomplished. Instead, the enemy has struck down good people time and time again without retaliation. It's completely predictable that people have decided to do things alone when the hopes of accomplishing anything together have been so denied - judging the action of an individual without recognizing the context of the utter failure of the group to attain results is not materialism. If everyone who was upset about this killed IDF soldiers or employees of the Israeli state or arms factory execs, this could have ended a year ago. Instead, peoplPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

February 2025 poll of Israel's favourability in Europe.

>>489706
People organizing to effectively shut down the weapons deliveries to Israel would have prevented Gaza getting turned into rubble, but it could not have prevented the starvation siege.

I don't know how you envisage people who are upset about the genocide destroying the IDF and so on. Hundreds of millions of people marching towards the middle east ?

As for the false flag speculation, you make some reasonable points, but embassy staff isn't exactly pro Zionist billionaires. If somebody wanted to pull on a thread that unravels a part of the Zionist machinery, they'd go after the funding not a couple of minions. So the false flag possibility isn't entirely ruled out yet imho.

I think there is a possibility that a Iran war can be avoided. The reason for the push towards an Iran war is mainly driven by a need for political consolidation because Isreal's internal problems are destabilizing the regime. Secondary motivation is Zionists feeling that the historic window of opportunity, to get the US to go on the attack on their behalf, is closing. But it's probably easier to throw Netanyahu under the buss to fix at least some of Israel's political instability. Iran is extremely heavily armed and the oil-monarchies that would not survive proximity to said war, have just payed a fantastic amount of protection money to the US. Also there is a good chance the US could loose badly enough that it triggers rapid imperial influence evaporation.

>>489676
I think that the criticism of the "effective altruists" still accepts their premises. They can't actually predict whether or not some of their proposed horrors in the here and now will pay off in the long run. They don't have a crystal ball that tells the future, and therefor all their arguments rest on a false premise. Same thing with Hyaek, markets are not a cybernetic system, premise is bunk.

If they hand over the nukes to a computer, the most rational course of action for the Russians and the Chinese is to hack that computer to make sure, they don't get nuked.

>>489676
>“I just want to have peace in the world,” says GPT-4, before bombing its opponents into oblivion
That's what your average American politicians do already, it's not a bug, that's a feature.

>>489662
Not even the anon you were replying to. People in Europe criticizing NATO is quite obviously not the same thing as people criticizing a rival power in their home country. You didn't demonstrate anything with that retarded false equivalence, moron.

>>489665
>People in Europe criticizing NATO is quite obviously not the same thing as people criticizing a rival power in their home country.
Okay, Europe isn't exactly a rival to the US, very well. Russians can't criticize NATO then? Is that what you're trying to say?
>You didn't demonstrate anything with that retarded false equivalence, moron.
Kys, faggot.

>>489659
>people in Europe criticizing NATO are singing the imperial song
dafuck ? Nato is the empire

>I live in Russia so by your own logic I'm fully justified in criticizing my own bourgeois government
That part is correct. Russians criticizing the Russian government is not likely to function as a pretext to manufacture consent for US imperialism, the way criticizing Russia in the west tends to.
>and sabotaging
that part is not correct, nobody said anything about sabotage.

>>489667
>Russians can't criticize NATO then?
That one is somewhat true, in the sense that it's pointless. Nato does not care about political consent from Russian citizens. If Nato gets criticism from citizens in Europe or the US there is at least a possibility that it could move the political needle at least a little bit. Russians really don't need to convince the Russian government about the "downsides" of Nato, they already know.

>>489697
>nobody said anything about sabotage
Is it bad for Ukrainiens to sabotage the war effort then?
>That part is correct. Russians criticizing the Russian government is not likely to function as a pretext to manufacture consent for US imperialism, the way criticizing Russia in the west tends to.
Okay, okay, but we can at least be honest with ourselves about both NATO and Russia. Just because we want Ukraine to make peace with Russia doesn't mean we must genuinely believe that Russia is "le good guy," that's some Orwellian doublethink. You can be like: "Yes, Russia is fascist but I support their brand of fascism because it's against Western imperialism." Although I don't think Russian leftists will be excited to hear this… because they live here.

>>489698 (me)
Also, opportunism, opportunism, opportunism.

Heil anarchy.

The Kent State massacre was a regular crime. Had it been committed as part of, or under the auspices of, the "war effort," or had it been committed in or anywhere near the battlefield, or had it been committed by occupying soldiers in the place they were occupying, then it would have been a war crime.

Obviously Mai Lai and things like that were war crimes. Mai Lai is crazy - growing up I don't remember hearing as much about how the American soldiers were gang raping women and children during that.

The thing to remember about the My Lai massacre is that it wasn't even the most extreme example of shit US troops were doing in Vietnam, it's just the one that someone blew the whistle on.

People should support the ACP because at least it's a stepping stone for rightoids into Left wing politics and working class politics.
Not everyone is going to instantly sign up to some troon infested smashie rainbow hair leftist org, especially the working class right. Parties like the ACP are absolutely needed to present leftist ideas and communism to your average rightoid.

>>489650
>People should support the ACP because at least it's a stepping stone for rightoids
<ACP becomes too popular
<rightoids don't move to a less conservative and class collaborationist party
Uhhhhhhhh… Is that supposed to be a success?

>>489650
>>489652
see >>489649

>>489634
What have leaders said when confronted about this?

>>489634
>Really conspicuous that this thread will criticize them for anything except this.
Well, ideological criticisms are the most immediate. After all, when people see a new party the first thing they check out is their ideology.

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>>489611
>Anarcho-capitalism is impossible
True.

>>489611
It's impossible because it's an oxymoron. Capitalism needs a government.

>>489628
>It's impossible because it's an oxymoron
It's impossible because it's a utopia, it not working is merely a side-effect of utopian thinking. Because utopian thinking is always alien to praxis, it's all just ideas on paper.