/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>444873
my numby wumby

>>487934
>>487916
Yeah it happened.
Basically, Caballo was refusing to follow his own rules and constantly stepping out of line so there was an attempt to create some democratic methodology by Comatoast, Zero, and Watermelon with the supprt of some other users, but, they had a backdoor in Krates which had been inactive for like a year at that point.

Can't believe that's you, what a twist.

>>488672
"genocide bad" is not the same thing as having an opinion on bourgeoisie elections.

>>488681
Yeah, genocide bad is an actual coherent position which people actually hold, unlike US elections now which are electoral manifestations of Stockholm syndrome where people are psyopped into voting for candidates half of them only think are "less evil."

It's way less than 53% of the country who are actually deciding American policy. There are also polls going back a year which get higher numbers than that for specific questions like "should the US NOT send weapons to Israel?"

Yemen’s Houthis claim shooting down another US drone

Yemen’s Houthis claim to have shot down a US MQ-9 Reaper drone over the northern al-Jawf governorate.

The Houthi-affiliated Al Masirah TV satellite news channel said it was the third such drone shot down in 10 days. The advanced drones – which can fly at altitudes up to 15,240 metres (50,000 feet) and for up to 24 hours – have been flown by US military and intelligence agencies over Yemen for years.

The purported attack occurred after US air strikes pounded an area in the Red Sea port city of Hodeidah, killing at least six people, according to the Houthis.

Netanyahu back in Israel, to testify in court today: Report

Netanyahu has returned to Israel after a weeklong overseas trip, reports The Times of Israel.

Despite an ICC arrest warrant against him for alleged war crimes, the Israeli PM travelled to Hungary and the US, meeting Trump on Monday. His flight routes were reportedly adjusted to steer clear of countries that might enforce the International Criminal Court arrest warrant against him in the event of an emergency landing.

Netanyahu is slated to appear before the city’s district court for a corruption trial this morning, the news report said.
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So Grayzone released some leaked AIPAC audio recently. Really demonstrates how compromised the Trump administration is.

Hamas, PIJ release video of attacks on Israel from Gaza

Qassam Brigades, the military wing of Hamas in Gaza, has released footage of its rocket attacks on Israel three days ago.

It was the group’s largest spate of attacks in months. Most of the rockets were intercepted, and one Israeli was reported to have suffered shrapnel wounds.

The Palestinian Islamic Jihad also released a short clip to show how its fighters detonated a buried explosive device as an Israeli tank was advancing in an area east of Gaza.

https://twitter.com/AJA_Palestine/status/1910015224008302754

Devastating Israeli strikes on Shujayea: What to know

Hospitals in northern Gaza were once again overwhelmed earlier today after a series of Israeli air strikes destroyed an entire residential block, killing at least 35 Palestinians, wounding dozens and leaving another 80 missing.

At least three of the victims were children.
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>>488544
S&P 500 closed under 5000

I guess 100% tariffs on China will do that huh.

Another day opening in red

>>488687
Such a pretty color

How long will MAGAtards keep defending this imbecile?

Judge gives Trump administration deadline to justify Mahmoud Khalil’s deportation
An immigration judge ruled on Tuesday that the Trump administration has until 5pm on Wednesday to present evidence as to why Mahmoud Khalil, the Palestinian activist and Columbia University graduate, should be deported. She said that if the evidence does not support deportation, she may rule on Friday on his release from immigration detention.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/08/mahmoud-khalil-deportation-judge-deadline-trump

Keystone oil pipeline shut down after a rupture in rural North Dakota
The cause of the rupture and the volume of crude oil spilled were not immediately unclear. An employee working at the site near Fort Ransom heard a “mechanical bang” and shut down the pipeline within about two minutes, said Bill Suess, spill investigation program manager with the North Dakota Department of Environmental Quality.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/keystone-oil-pipeline-shut-after-rupture-rural-north-120601318

US Justice Dept disbands crypto enforcement team, citing Trump order
The memo from Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, sent out to employees late on Monday night, accused former Democratic President Joe Biden's administration of pursuing a "reckless strategy of regulation by prosecution" of the digital asset sector.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-dept-disbands-cryptocurrency-enforcement-unit-2025-04-08/

Feds end a civil rights agreement on treatment of Native students, citing DEI
Education Department spokeswoman Madi Biedermann said leaders at the Office for Civil Rights will review other resolution agreements entered into during the Biden administration that it finds may be illegal or inappropriate.
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Episode 449: October H8THE (TrueAnon)
We’re joined by Dylan Saba from Palestine Legal (palestinelegal.org) to talk about the new hasbara film “October 8,” the rash of nuisance suits by big law against protestors, and the unifying strategy of the Zionist assault on several amendments.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/october-h8the

Breaking the Silence on Palestinian Armed Struggle
On February 22, 2024, China’s Ambassador to The Hague, Zhang Jun, uttered the unexpected. His testimony, like that of a number of others, was meant to help the International Court of Justice (ICJ) formulate a critical and long-overdue legal opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Zhang articulated the Chinese position, which, unlike the American envoy’s testimony, was entirely aligned with international and humanitarian laws. But he delved into a tabooed subject—one that even Palestine’s closest allies in the Middle East and Global South dared not touch: the right to use armed struggle. “Palestinian people’s use of force to resist foreign oppression and complete the establishment of an independent state is an inalienable right,” the Chinese Ambassador said, insisting that “the struggle waged by peoples for their liberation, right to self-determination, including armed struggle against colonialism, occupation, aggression, domination against foreign forces should not be considered terror acts”. Expectedly, Zhang’s comments didn’t reverberate much further: neither governments nor intellectuals, including many on the left, used his remarks as an opportunity to explore the matter further. It’s far more convenient to assign Palestinians the role of the victim or the villain. A resisting Palestinian—one with agency and control over his own fate—is always a dangerous territory.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2025/04/08/breaking-the-silence-on-palestinian-armed-struggle/

Boycotts, Buycotts, and Real Worker Power
Regarding the events of February 28, it is both to the boycott organizers’ credit and their detriment that they started and promoted their campaign through unconventional means. Primarily spreading on Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488676
>Cyber defense bill allows collection and use of private information without consent
>The bill under discussion states that the government may enter into agreements with private businesses, including key infrastructure providers and home appliance makers, to have them provide correspondence information.
The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology, they should be calling this "cyber-breach bill" instead. The US forced a backdoor into infrastructure providers too and the Chinese managed rummaging around for 2 hole years before they got detected.

Obviously the war on privacy is an egregious crime, and this should be viewed as a conspiracy not a legislative proposal. I think tho that as a means of repression it could backfire because these kinds of systems are inherently vulnerable to saturation attacks, basically people can use this to ddos the police.

Lastly if a mafia manages to use corruption to get access to this, they'll get the cyber-yakuza

>>488690
>The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology
Known by whom? You shouldn't trust a fucking thing anyone says about state cyberwarfare after the Vault7 leaks. Here's why.

I am not a nazi and have never tried to cope by scapegoating imperialism solely on jews. however, the jews have lost their fucking minds.

overwhelming majority of jews worldwide support Israel, believe Israel is part of their identity, believe Israel is in their interest, and want the world to view jewishness as synonymous with Israel. you would think if jews had any sense of long-term self-preservation, they would see that this will necessarily be disastrous for jews in the long term (a minority of jews oppose israel because they recognize this). the level of brainwashing that zionism has achieved on jews is frightening. and worse, the same brainwashing techniques can be used on other groups of people.

what's the moral and necessary way to deal with people who have been brainwashed to such levels of bloodthirst and greed?

>>488695
Assuming that this is in good faith (I wouldn't normally assume such a thing, but this past year I can really, really understand why someone might genuinely ask this), I'll give ya my thoughts.

It's a real fucking bitch. Looking at the events of the past year+, I can find no evidence that all Jews are bloodthirsty Zionists. The amount of Jews who have been brainwashed is still staggering, though. It sort of recontextualizes the supposed "antisemitism" of Stalin's later years for me, because I realize now that once the Mossad and Zionist terror organizations became prevalent, people started having good reason to be suspicious of Jews even if this looked bad and might have resulted in false positives. Zionists unfortunately have a tendency to use the conflation and ambiguity to their advantage. I don't recommend taking the position I do to others, because I don't necessarily trust others' ability to think critically and "walk the line," but my thinking is that Zionism seeks to abuse both wholesale trust and wholesale distrust of Jews. An anti-Zionist movement generally shouldn't take a position of distrust towards Jewish participants, but, at the same time, such a distrust could be justified purely out of paranoid concern for security within an organization. I think that this is a fundamentally unfortunate state of affairs, and I'm glad that organizations have not seen it as necessary to concede to this paranoia - despite all the efforts of Zionists to throw non-Zionist Jews under the bus.

I reiterate that this is a fucking goddamn bitch of a situation here, and I think it might well be even worse than I ordinarily discuss. It really fucking sucks, and it would honestly be so much more convenient and simple if all Jews were just evil Zionist bastards at this point. You know, being accused of being "antisemitic" would probably bother me less if I actually was anti-Jewish, and likewise, I'd probably have more quickly acknowledged the sheer amount of Zionist influence on US politics had I been an actual bigot.

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UAW President Shawn Fain explains why he supports Trump's tariffs
Fain referred to last Wednesday's announcement of global tariffs as "reckless," but firmly supports an earlier round of tariffs on the U.S. auto industry. Those tariffs both help and hurt U.S. auto companies, because they produce so much in Canada and Mexico. Auto parts typically cross the border multiple times as a car is assembled. GM has already said it will move some production back to Indiana — but Stellantis ordered layoffs.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5352409/trump-auto-tariffs-uaw-shawn-fain

Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs
The New Civil Liberties Alliance filed a suit against Trump’s imposition of import tariffs on exports from China, arguing that doing so under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) – which the president has invoked to justify the duties on nearly all countries – is unlawful.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit

Bogus report on tariff pause briefly lifted markets before White House denied it
The Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly erased a morning loss of 1,700 points, shot up more than 800 points and then went back to a loss of 629 points. The S&P 500 likewise made sudden up-and-down lurching movements.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-kevin-hassett-false-bogus-report-ad825e7d8c06514843821dfd898bd3f9

Mother and three kids released by Ice after protests from US ‘border czar’s’ hometown
A mother and her three children who were taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents as part of a sweep in the tiny hometown of the Trump administration’s “border czar”, Tom Homan, have been released following days of outcry from community figures, advocates and protesters calling for their freedom.
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Ukraine is a capital of freedom!
These are the very theses that every Ukrainian can see in the space of the own city. Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the authorities have begun to strengthen the theses about freedom and democracy. It is worth noting that during the times of "independence" in Ukraine there has never been an influential opposition. And the opposition, as is known, is an indicator that there is at least some kind of struggle between certain sides in the state.
https://libcom.org/article/ukraine-capital-freedom

Urban Ore Workers Fight for Fairness!
For nearly two years, workers at Berkeley’s only remaining salvage yard, Urban Ore, have been bargaining for their first union contract. Urban Ore workers unionized with the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) to advocate for living wages and better working conditions in their shop, and to join other workers in a growing labor movement that is fighting for the working class. But over the last two years, the owners of Urban Ore have focused their energy and money on fighting our union rather than bargaining in good faith for a fair contract.
https://www.iclcit.org/urban-ore-workers-fight-for-fairness/

Throwing Washington Overboard By Daniel De Leon ( During Spanish–American War)
Capitalism, threatened from behind by the Social Revolution, turns around to the uprising Proletariat, and with a sanctimonious scowl invokes the past as a sacred thing, to be worshipped and bowed down before. What?! Does the Socialist Movement want to break with the “time-honored” habits of the land? What?! Shall the principles of Americanism, consecrated by the Revolutionary Fathers, be done away with? What?! In horror the Pillars of Society throw up their arms, and the conviction leaps from their eyes that, as the Socialists have no reverence for the past, they must be wiped out. Nevertheless, we have again and again maintained that there is nothing more infidel than Capitalism; all its gods, its idols, its principles are readily sacrificed whenever it can thereby turn its sacred things into money. It came into the world decapitating everything in sight and out of sight; uprooting chPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488674
>Bogus report on tariff pause briefly lifted markets before White House denied it
In other words how to do a pump and dump.

>>488673
>Sri Lankan police detain youth under anti-terrorist laws for opposing Gaza genocide
<Don't mass murder children !
<well well you must be a terrorist !

It's going to happen, eventually the word "terrorist" will undergo a dramatic change in meaning to "a person with humane ethical values". And the spelling will change to "terrurest", Yes that's oddly specific but i'm going with it.

>>488679
One more thing, organizing shouldn't involve paying money for anything other than your own expenses for projects your team is doing. If there's something concrete they want, they can set up a fundraiser for it.

I know these parties want you to pay them for newspapers and have a subscription model, but I really think they don't deserve it. More like… if it's a volunteer effort and I am volunteering I am already paying with my time.

If they want to generate money they have to produce something.

>>488679
Tbh the PSL is at least good at campaigning, their numbers in the 2024 election were like the highest any ML party has ever had in the US. Their mutual aid/outreach stuff is also a step in the right direction.

That said… the protest movement in the US has obviously failed to seize public anger and direct it into decisive action which can meet the urgency of the situation, and PSL, however much I respect them compared to the DSA (who don't even bring the kind of protest energy the PSL does, let alone anything more concrete), is not about to carry out the actions that are called for. We absolutely need new organizations devoted to that, and if I had the money I would put it towards defensive local organizing and decisive blows against the organs of state engaged in genocide. I feel a fucking fire inside which isn't satisfied by marching and making demands of those evil bastards in charge who won't listen, and it's not satisfied by posting about it either. The frustration that comes with knowing there are others who feel the same, but almost exclusively encountering people who are unwilling to act is profound. I'm sick of wasting time.

>>488684
I'll also add, and this is a bit mean, but it's difficult to think of a greater indictment of the American opposition than the fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day than people who spent over a year protesting and calling for strikes and (very) temporarily shutting down roads & ports with protests did. Like, nobody can say we didn't have time to pool resources for something big. Nobody can say we didn't have time to make real plans to take out arms factories and damage the infrastructure of genocide financiers on a large scale. Thinking about the kind of stuff the American orgs didn't want to do because they wanted to avoid breaking the law genuinely pisses me off.

>>488684
>>488685
>The fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day
That might be a culmination of features built into capitalism itself all coming to a conclusion. I wouldn't necessarily compare what protestors can do at current levels of organization with what capitalism can do to itself.

I'm reminded by a quote from Lord of the Rings:

>Strange powers have our enemies, and strange weaknesses! said Théoden.
>But it has long been said: oft evil will shall evil mar

>>488686
I mean, there was gonna be a recession hitting between January and March 2026, anyway, sure, but Trump did kinda give it a big boost.

What I'm not seeing that much of is a real effort to prepare for an action which could cause damage like that. In the time the protestors have been protesting, we could at least have built something able to do much more damage than we did.

>>488601
How is that trashing Korea though? The US likes military dictatorships in Korea, they propped one up for thirty years. Provocations against the north are also an excellent excuse to funnel yet more money into the weapons industry.

>>488606
>How is that trashing Korea though? The US likes military dictatorships in Korea, they propped one up for thirty years.
I think the South Korean people would have had an allergic reaction to that.
The South Korean techies would likely have fucked off to China, who would have granted them a special economic zone tailored for their needs, to Vietnam and Taiwan.
The Korean entertainment industry would have withered away, with some artists going to western countries.
>Provocations against the north are also an excellent excuse to funnel yet more money into the weapons industry.
I'm not sure, at the moment China and South Korea have been doing rapprochement, that may have been in part a result of the scare with the ghost of past dictatorship.

>>488592
It must be so fucking easy to be a liberal. You just have to walk around "knowing" you're "right" all the time. That's all.

>>488669
uygha stfu

>in our hug boxes
Usually I associate the word "hugbox" with a place where power tripping jannies ban anyone who deviates from the House Position on something. Like 4chan or leftypol.org for instance.

>>488634
>dissolusioned right wingers
The only people disillusioned are boomers who just had part of their retirement deleted. Trump barging in and dropping a trvth nuke on global trade is one of the best things he's done as president. I hope he crashes the global economy with no survivors
>I post on /b/
lol who are you planning to convert? /sfur/ and andy sixx?

>>488649
>The only people disillusioned are boomers who just had part of their retirement deleted.
>Trump barging in and dropping a trvth nuke on global trade is one of the best things he's done as president. I hope he crashes the global economy with no survivors
Ehhhh OP's not wrong that we can work with that.
Like yeah, fuck the stocks, but it's foolish not to reach out to people as the economy gets wrecked. But there are better ways to reach people and more important things to do than arguing on 4chan.

>>488642
Do nothing left. The reason the left is dead is because we have killed ourselves. Old leftypol wouldn't have been against this. If anything to spread knowledge that we exist. none the less 4chan is going to cont to exist no matter what. I also have irl discourse with right wingers. That doesn't mean you can't dual lurk here and 4han, lol.

The CIA will never let actual leftist rhetoric take hold on any mainstream platform. That's just not a thing. For every one of your posts they have 10 bots posting gotchas.

Go to a march. Get organized with socialists. Find the next step you guys are going to work on.