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This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.
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We're actually trying to move to more open discussion here more akin to like ULP or something.

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Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
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Fundamentals of Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism, DPRK: Seven Decades of Creation and Changes, On Nationalism, Complete Exposition of the Principles of the Juche Idea are all great reads relating to the DPRK
Also if you want good documentaries Pyongyang Today, My Brothers and Sisters in the North are good starters
Some links

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Continued from >>475181

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 24,000.

The US House, with Biden's support, approved more than $14,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel.

South Africa filed a case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza.

Houthi rebels in Yemen have attacked cargo ships in the Red Sea in an attempt to disrupt the supply line of Israel's ongoing carpet bombing campaign against Gaza. The Biden admin has responded to the Houthis with a retaliatory bombing campaign.

400,000 marched in Washington DC in protest of Biden's support of Israel's genocide.
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I know it's kind of silly to talk about "poor Israelis" but they are in a fucked situation if they don't have dual citizenship, and they know it.

They're banking on this turning into a coup of the US in the near future - and Project 2025 would be effectively that, which looks like the direction they want to go. And so, there's going to be a really shitty situation coming up, and it can't be contained to Israel's existence in a model. No one in the region is thinking that this will be a neat little war.


>What they're doing now is what they've been doing "slyly" since the 1970s
Maybe bloodshed accumulates, and after 50 years of mass murdering civilians that changes the political context.


>the Red Sea becoming militarised
It's a trade choke-point, it's easy to avoid that, just build a few rail connections with shipping terminals at each end that run parallel.

BTW not my idea, there have been official studies, and it's viable, but for some reason they never get build. I wonder why.


It is only the mask that is dropping. Up there, "in the know", they've been clamoring for blood, and they talk all the time about overpopulation and how much they hate stupid people taking up their oxygen. If they constantly mention this and don't let you forget this for 50 years, put it in all educational curricula and millions of lives are steadily destroyed for this - and this continued a trend over the preceding 50 years that no one alive then could not have seen - you should take them at their word and stop pretending it totally isn't happening. The only difference now is that where before deniability was a useful tool for herding the hoodwinked, now the eugenic faithful must rally to carry out the Jehad. The more ultraviolent the eugenists, the greater the fear they created, and the more the left is trained to be herded and wimp out as they have since the 1960s. It's amazing how much they conditioned the people to be humiliated and degraded like this. Nothing like it was ever done, and because "nothing new is possible", it was not permitted to say any of what this was without being "retarded" and ipso facto evil and ritually sacrificed. The thrill of torture has been maximized.


Israel is not an exceptional country, despite its efforts to claim an exceptional "right to exist" that no other country dares utter. All they have done is inherent to the fuckery that went on in that region, and they selected the most faithful soldiers and were more committed to eugenics than most. What happens there is not going to stay "over there", and the Zionists will make sure of it, along with their allies who have always wanted to fulfill prophecy and bring the End Times.

I hope to god there is some fight somewhere against these Christian Nazis coming up next year, but I doubt it.

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I would like to know, who is browsing this site. So I'm asking you this fundamental question. Give me your isms!
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For the strong to eat the weak, you have to regard there is a reality where this happens. What you propose is incoherent faggotry. Faggotry is a very common ideology.

You're not really a nihilist unless you're going to do a Kefka and destroy the world - and if you go there, you start to see that nihilism as a philosophy is fake and gay, and you instead denounce the sordid body of knowledge called philosophy altogether and all of the human conceits about the world and their gay pseudoscience.


>data gathering threads are suspicious
>yet you are using the internet. Curious.
implying that internet technology shouldn't be privacy respecting ?
Are you a glowy ?

Nobody is choosing to have their privacy violated just by using a technology.
Private data collection and surveillance is abuse.


Bruh, your entire ideology and your name revolves around Eugene Krabs, you have to try harder to attack me. Beside that, incoherence is a feature, not a bug. This is why my ideology is based and Eugenism-Krabism is cringe.


The internet is inherently privacy disrespecting. Noobs believe they can outsmart governments with encryption, but in the end, the corporate states control the entire technology. When was the moment, when people become aware of the NSA leaks? Too late, waaaay to late. It's over. The only people who are save, are our grandmas who never used a computer. People who never interacted with the internet in their life. Its so over.


Even before the Internet, your privacy is relative.

People could access public records and make fake IDs of you and get away with it.

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Who's next?

Sometimes a two-word OP is all you need to get the point across. Especially on an image board.
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If corporations had enough clout to force these mass immigration policies against the will of the native voters just to get cheat labor then they would repeal minimum wage laws first. Paying jamal $15 an hour is not actually more profitable than paying karen $15 an hour. At least karen can speak english.


>union membership rate dropped to all time low under biden
Seems like a suspect assertion, considering union membership and strike frequency has actually been going up for the past six or seven years.


This is the biggest example of "corrleation does not equal causation" I have ever seen in my life.
Unions aren't busted up by immigrants retard they are busted up by massive capitalist conglomerates and other corporate hegemons breaking them up.


Immigrants all together make up 44 million people. In the united states there is 350mill + individuals living here. That is not even 1% of the population. This is so dumb.


>44 million
>350 million
Sounds like a bit more than 1% to me.


It's miniscule cope.

It's not even 1/4th and again you still are correlating two charts with out any proof one is caused by the other when union busting tactics have existed for centuries now.

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The more older I become the more I understand just how strong is my urge to murder other communists.

Almost every one of them is some kind of a sperg, an idealist, a dogmoid automaton, a lib, a nationalist, a culture warrior, a grifter, a socialite, I could go on and on.
I can't fucking stand you. Every time I talk to one I imagine him choking on his blood, and this image gives me a relief.

First thing that triggers me immensely is the obsession with philosophy. Every time some idealist sperg mentions dialectics to me it takes me titanic effort to not pick up a chair and bash their head into the nearest wall with it.
Seriously, it got so bad that I sometimes daydream about choking Engels and Hegel with a stupid smile on my face.
I'm now convinced that there can not be such thing as a proletarian philosophy. Philosophy is a mind poison of the ruling classes, always has been, and it poisoned the minds of the leaders of the workers movement due to them all being intellectuals. All according to Marxism lol.
This obsession is so widespread that I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who came to Marxism through the study of history and not through some philosophic elitist drivel. It tells

The second thing is idealism (being an insufferable sperg is closely related). It seems like you just can't expect communists to be pragmatic in this day and age. It's like they are stuck between the Scylla of maximalism and the Charybdis of defeatism. It's either "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!" or "capitalism is actually socialism because they say so". It seems like communists don't have the patience or the mental capacity to just keep fucking grinding to their aims, slowly and methodically, using everyone and everything they can, and patiently waiting for their moment. No, they just NEED to sperg out and express their very important opinion (that 10 out of 10 times is some banal idealism or empty populist platitudes) on every little matter!
At moments like this it usually takes me two to three cigarettes to calm down.

And as we touched on it already, lets discuss the third thing - cheap populism. It is so widespread that I got in more fights over populist rhetoric than over any other thing. It seems like every communist takes his audience for fucking 10-year old kids who can be manipulated by simple tricks. Hey, you know that I can SEE what you are doing? You know we're all adults here? Hey, look me in the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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I don't know why you are raising the question about what level of self-contained the brain is. The brain doesn't have much IO (input-output), human senses are very limited, and human expression even more so. In that sense human brains are relatively isolated.

There is the famous neuralink project, where people are trying to stick thousands of electrodes into people's skulls, attempting to install a computer port. But the human brain doesn't have anything that would resemble a network adapter or a digital communications protocol. I doubt that it'll enable direct IO. It could yield a leap in prosthetics which could improve medical treatment options for a number of disabilities and enable some creepy "military applications".

If you wanted direct IO for the brain, you would need people to grow a biological network adapter, that is far-out scifi, requiring a combination of many fields, for example genetic manipulation as well as nano-scale bio-molecular fabrication.


The brain and knowledge - what "we" are - are two different things. We could see the brain as alien to ourselves, and this has come to pass - and by essentializing the brain over any other quality of knowledge or any meaning, knowledge can be essentialized, commanded, controlled, corralled, and destroyed.

I don't believe anything I say will ever be admissible in your world system. Once you taste that blood, you never go back, and you know very well what I am saying. You refuse, absolutely refuse, in service to the eugenic creed. Always.


If however you wanted to genuinely pursue the belief that physical phenomena are the basis for rationality - and this is entirely permissible - you would arrive at very different conclusions. My argument isn't that physical reality cannot dictate nature, but that what you're calling "physicalism" is nothing of the sort and deliberately so. You're just laundering ideology by saying it's "the science". If you were to root reality and knowledge entirely in physical phenomena, you would come away with very different conclusions of what we are, and what those phenomena mean, than if you essentialized everything and "looked for the penis" like a bad psychological inquistor, looking to latch on to the first idea that suits your preferences and reinforces itself institutionally. That is, if you really did look at the world as the result of physical activity, of forces we regard as material, you would come away with a world view skeptical of institutional science, and desirous of what science would have been if knowledge were not monopolized. That world can no longer exist politically, or be described without being "retarded" and ipso facto a wrong idea.


That is to say, I would be classified as a "physicalist" in that sense - that the physical world precedes any of OUR knowledge, and that we are physical entities before we can be anything else. There is no metaphysical essence of "us", or any form - that's not really what metaphysics answers. If you accept that though, then there's not really much physics has to explain politics, biology, or many complex systems. It can explain their origin from prior physical conditions, but it doesn't explain what we consider life, or knowledge, which are always abstractions entailing things that arose from their priors. If we were to imagine the universe as a gigantic physical clockwork, we would either have to reduce it to empty ideas dictated, or we would be caught in a morass of details that can be disputed ad infinitum to make adjudicating facts - to make sharing science - impossible. At some point we would regard that there are things in this universe that don't correspond to a crude physical impulse, the way you have ultraviolently hectored me because you smell blood and your lizard brain thinks "i'm winning i'm winning" and must do so. That is all humans ever really were, though. The idea that it was different would be snuffed out every time it formed, as "reality" asserted itself. In the past, this only happened when it needed to, because states and institutions only reached so far, and it was both impractical and undesirable to insist on ideological conformity for such a worthless cause as torturing others and assertions of fundamental truth by imperium alone. Most people can figure out that such a thing turns on itself eventually, and carry on with science, reason, and their investigations with that in mind. Eventually, though, human knowledge reaches an impasse where something new is needed, and it has been the dominant idea that nothing new is ever possible, and to deny precisely that would would allow such a new thing to exist. This ultimately requires full enclosure of all space, all time, all reason, all potential. There is no alternative to the aristocratic program. Now we are seeing the final results of it. Some of us tried to warn you, but you'd rather feel good, and so you did.


Basically, even if the world were rooted in physics, it clearly has little bearing on politics. It doesn't politically matter where life came from, for instance. But, it is very relevant for the claims of eugenics, which were conscious lies told to project forcibly and destroy the brain of the lower classes - to maximize the thrill of torture.

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Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.

Pro-Russia sources:

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I don't think the West is going to rebuild Ukraine because I don't think Ukraine is going to be independent after all this is said and done, but if there was a rump state left over, it would behoove NATO to rebuild it if only to the extent that it would be useful in a future conflict with Russia.

There's some chatter about this possibility, particularly that the responsibility is going to be offloaded onto the EU, but I don't really see that happening either.


<behooved nato rump base
wouldn't the Russians interfere with the construction of that ?


ukraine lost lol seethe faggot


Looks like Western thieves are paying off a bunch of lawyers to claim it's totally legal to use Russian assets to pay for Ukrainian war funds. Will they really do it? Will the neocons be so bold to put the final nail in the coffin of the petrodollar?


>Looks like Western thieves are paying off a bunch of lawyers to claim it's totally legal to use Russian assets
It appears that even in western ruling circles most are opposed. I think they wanted to keep the assets frozen until those can be given to a pro-western Russian political faction that stands in opposition to the current Russian government. That way it would become a tool for foreign meddling as well as legitimacy theater.

>Will they really do it?

The neocons might be risking their political viability, if they miscalculate and screw over big finance, they'd be reduced to a weapons lobby.

>Will the neocons be so bold to put the final nail in the coffin of the petrodollar?

The neocons probably have deluded them selves that they're only blowing up that one bank in Belgium which is called Euroclear or something similar. But you are right the financial blowback will likely be directed against the Dollar or more accurately the sphere of US financial influence. Finance calculates "political risk", they won't be fooled about the source of that political risk.

This will be wind in the sails of that new BRICS financial system. Considering that Russia was a early investor in that project, they might recoup their losses, which would be ironic.

I don't know what to make of all this, neocon foreign policy had the effect of significantly reducing the power of western imperial capital on the global stage. I'm puzzled about how they keep going. They propose a stupid scheme that won't work, loads of people explain why it can't work, they do it anyway, it blows up in their face. And then the hole thing repeats it self with a new scheme.

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So I took a 1 year break of leftypol and now I see this site, leftychan? Another split? Oh you leftoids, we do you keep splittin all the time? What was the reason this time?
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Also post here because we have an i2p address, also. I forgot to mention.


Ah ok, so the usual powerstruggle between the lefty staff. Ok I will give leftychan a try. My guts are tellin me, this is the better place.


It only took one bullshit ban for me to never want to go back there, but it's really amazing to me to hear just how long the shit moderation has been going on over at .org at this point. Do they really not realize that they're driving away their own userbase like this? Or is that actually the whole point?


It is. It's more closer to bunkerchan.


leftypol was always an op, and now that fascism is here, it's rolled up like the rest of the ops.

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Less than 2 hours until Assanges extradition hearing

This will likely decide the fate of Julian Assange who is a journalist that was kidnapped and tortured for his democracy advocacy.

If the UK extradites Assange to his executioners in the US, the UK will declare it self a rogue state.

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>He's an Australian citizen
thanks for correcting my error

>after four fucking years the Australian parliament just passed with overwhelming support a motion demanding his return to Australia.

>Is Australia finally ready to stop being a US vassal state?
To be honest i know next to nothing about Australian politics. If they decide to defend Assange that doesn't necessarily mean they uncucked from being a vassal. The Assange case isn't about geo-political interests. It's about petty revenge.


For domestic US politics it is about petty revenge (and partisan bullshit when Clinton is involved), but on a geopolitical stage the Assange case is about flexing hegemonic soft power and keeping its "allies" in line.


I remain unconvinced that soft-power behaves analogous to a muscle that can be flexed. I think soft-power behaves analogous to a finite resource. It has to be build up before it can be spend. A muscle grows stronger the more it's used, a resource just diminishes the more it's used.

I think they are wasting finite soft-power resources for the sake of taking petty revenge on Assange.


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I love how everyone outside the tiny neolib/neocon bubble universally agrees that Assange is based


yes very based indeed


How much damage will Javier Milei be able to do ?
He seems to be a US vassal, and a rather unhinged nutcase.
He wants to make children a commodity that can be bought and sold, and give the police, Judge-Dredd style, on the spot judgement/punishment powers.

Will that be like in Bolivia a few years ago where crazy reactionaries got into power and began causing massive upheaval and than quickly got kicked out again.

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You actually think money is made of magic and the line going up is due to offending the gods? Look at real inflation and then imagine if you didn't have the social and capital controls available to the US, the only country that can print unlimited money and get away with it. The triple digit inflation is a consequence of that policy since it is a global rather than national policy. All of this is intended - create crisis with neoliberalism, find a figurehead who will plunder the place and promote faggotry, then find either an actually competent fascist or a socdem or someone who settles the matter and makes the advance of plunder the new line to retreat from. Repeat every generation. That's what we have been consigned to. It relies on endlessly relitigating history, pretending that we're looping to some past example, and then rewriting the examples to say that we were always at war with Eastasia and humanity was always this.

None of that resembles reality, and it's always been a dogma of the fags who only think of kicking down to take the wealth of anyone who worked or built anything.


Im from Argentina and I CAN SAY any argentine who opposes Milei is effeminate.


why though? I get it if you just want to fuck with social democrats or something.


Bump. Ben Norton is profoundly based


He's a dumb contrarian who never successfully got out of his Brooklyn Trotkyite hipster roots. He should stick to journalism (which he's good at), and leave the analysis to more careful thinkers.

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