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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
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 No.480748

>>480742
interesting docu thx for posting it


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This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
>>>/777/
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.
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 No.480075

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>>480064
>idpolist idpolly idpollers
Huh? Yea, sure.


 No.481432[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Continued from >>479880

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 34,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll.

The US Congress, with Biden's support, passed the final version of a bill to authorize more than $26,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel. It's been pointed out that this is illegal under US law.

Israel initiated its ground assault of Rafah.

Israel attacked the Iranian consulate in Damascus, killing 16, and resulting in a carefully planned Iranian missile retaliation against military targets in Israel.

The International Court of Justice made an interim ruling in South Africa's favor in their case accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza, deeming it plausible. Ireland, Turkey, and Colombia joined Nicaragua in signing on to South Africa's case against Israel.

Yemeni Houthi attacks on shipping, in solidarity with Gaza, have continued, expanding to the Indian ocean.

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 No.482217

>>482205
>Solicitor Shaid autism scorebal
>Solicitor Shaid (I)qbal
kek the word filter strikes again.

>>482216
>Ex-Knesset member cites Hitler in rant about expelling Palestinians
>A far-right former Israeli lawmaker quoted Adolf Hitler as he discussed the military takeover of Gaza and expulsion of Palestinians.
>In a video shared on social media, Moshe Feiglin said: “We are not guests in our country. This is our country, all of it. As Hitler said, ‘I cannot live if one Jew is left’. We can’t live here if one ‘Islamo-Nazi’ remains in Gaza.”
>He added he wants to “turn Gaza Hebrew”. Feiglin was a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party from 2013-2015 before launching his own far-right Zehut party.
Wow i never thought they'd be so explicit.
They're even more far gone than i thought, if inspirational Hitler quotes seems like a reasonable thing to them.

Some people are saying that Israel might be nearing internal collapse, I'm no longer certain about that being hyperbole
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 No.482219

>>482217
>>Solicitor Shaid autism scorebal
lmao

>Wow i never thought they'd be so explicit.

They're completely fucking insane.
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 No.482224

>>482203
And why not fuck with them? A little slashed tyre, a little cum in their clam chowder…

I envision an app you can use to snap a pic of counter protesters at a pro-palestine rally that adds an entry to a centralized database of their location and face, and allows crowd sourcing of their identities. I guess all that would be highly illegal, but it sucks that only glowies are allowed to do this. This can be used against cops too.

Still I wanna know an actual reasonable next step: I materially support my local student encampment but it seems like we are against a clock: it's either socialism or extinction as they say.
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 No.482227

>>482224
>I guess all that would be highly illegal,
It probably isn't tbh. They seem to leave openings for a lot of their heinous behavior, even stuff you'd think would be illegal.


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 No.481725[Reply]

there is not one reason why i should help them or make their life easier. they generalize and exagerate about every government on earth ever. they lie through their teeth as natural as as they breath. they take advantage of the progressive zeitgeist that happen in society. they take advantage of everybody lying about nation/tribe/etc that are againts the libtard view of the world. they take advantage of people not caring but still having the drive to bully the non-"""normie""" part of society. not a single healthy society from the stone age up to now allow them to speak. THEY SHOULD BE ROPED!!!! when we have a new hammer&sickle revolution they should- no- MUST! THEY MUST BE ROPED!!!!
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 No.481733

>>481725
I hope some day you overcome your urge to eat paste.
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 No.481951

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>>481725
The world was better before SJW.
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 No.482200

>>481951
So just to be clear: "class reductionism" is a word that feds made up, doesn't exist and politics focused on gender and race are called identity politics and are counter-revolutionary, did I get that right? I just want to know that I'm not crazy for believing this.
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 No.482206

>>481951
>>482200
That's RIGHT!!!!
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 No.482223

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>>482200
Das right, uyghur. The core of identarism (= "racism", "sexism", "ageism", "ableism", "classism" ("people of means") & so on) is social division cringed on inherent characteristics of individuals & specific groups & subsequent ruling over the unleashed societal chaos. The more chaos is there @ the bottom, the more order there is @ the top.
If they like to tug the rope so much, let them do that with their actually fucking privileged necks. They do not want to dismantle the system of killing alienation, they only want to better their own positions in it by means of societal discrimination, & therefore they are the most rabid pro-system anticommunists of our times since they are the middle class of the present world.

>>481725
They are not persons, they are system-serving fascists.


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 No.361470[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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 No.481629

Damn it Che…
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 No.481632

>>481562
Gee, & I thought I am unhinged!
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 No.482210

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 No.482222

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>>482210
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality

Reactionaries tremble with joy by being placed into a system of relations, & their own position in this system in question doesn't even m@ter all th@ much, only the mere xistence of it. In other words, slaves by mentality will kill 4 remaining as slaves, 4 they cannot even imagine being free on their own. That's why their unhuman & unlife degeneracy is fused with necrophilia in its totality so much.
So yeah, mautism/turd-worldism/multiimperialism is just plain old nazism but for nonwytes.


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 No.482170[Reply]

the world works on looks. looks are important. we human will always fully think and associate people with lighter skin color as looking better, better to look at, and is more beautiful/pretty/handsome.
we all also associate lighter skin color with being more feminine for women consider feminine. we can never change this. not a single thing anyone do and say will ever change this. you can never change how people think like this. man or women everybody think like this.

now then have and obvious answer. for the sake of use call it the “Blond Path". we need to produce white people with blue eyes and green eyes and blond hair and ginger hair. the quota would be 10 times the world population including the world population of whites with natural color hair and eyes. To do this we ignore or erase things that are a hindrance such as marriage, monogamy, family unit, relationship, and romance. Production does not stop there, we also need to group ethnic whites together with the same ethnic whites (Ex: Scotts with Scotts, serbs with serbs, and etc). Although this one is of a different program. This program also require us to get rid of the same hindrance the former program have. Both program do not see heigh, body or looks. As long as your face are not horrendous you are good, so even if your not handsome and beautiful you will still be in the program.

As part of the Blond path and to prevent dehumanization and other such unwanted idea,we will educate people. Specifically we will tell them about that one zoning infrastructure real-estate thing (I forgot the name of it) that put black and brown people in place were the chemicals,paint ,water ,walls and environment in general are doing things to their head (mind and brain) and body. In general everybody need to be educated about racist laws and myth and other such things. Other then that we need to eliminate race science and race bias in science.

In short. The world need to have industry level production of ethnic whites and more importantly whites with blue eyes, green eyes, blond hair and red hair because the world work on looks. But we also educate people so they don’t believe in race science and race biased science.

we must advertise this to every rightoid, boomers, and whites.

I am speaking as a brown.
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 No.482179

>>482176
are u one of those people who make porn captions?
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 No.482207

>>482178
>>482179
if im the president im going to clone slavs so they can rape you faggots in your death bed
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 No.482211

>>482207
If your political program is limiting partner-choice and clones that commit elderly abuse, you'll never be present of anything.

We don't really care what people look like, we want everybody to have a nice life. That also means that if you find a way to alter the genetic makeup of people to the effect of letting them choose their hair/eye-color, we won't get in your way, because, well we don't really care what people look like.

If this bugs you so much, go study biology and genetics, don't bother with breeding programs, people don't go for that, but they might go for minor genetic modifications.
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 No.482218

I think oart of the problem with lookism is that people dont choose their looks. They have to pay money for cosmetic substabces to make them look good.
Cosmetic substances that dont change the physiological.

Gene therapy would change them directly.
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 No.482220

Whenever rightards once again screech about wye xtinction/genocide, I always have 2 make only 1 bitchsmack on them by 1 simple fact: IF all the nonwhites in the world will gain all the political power there is 2 get, one of the 1st, if not the 1st of them would be about enforced cattle-style breeding of whites so that there would be enough of them 4 the whole world 2 bleach themselves with. Whiteness is too precious 2 get rid of, wye slaves were always much more xpensive 2 buy than slaves of different skin colors, even if the wyes had a hideous appearance besides th@ (remember sjws trying to blame this phenomena on wyes themselves?).

>>482170
>To do this we ignore or erase things that are a hindrance such as marriage, monogamy, family unit, relationship, and romance.
>Both program do not see heigh, body or looks. As long as your face are not horrendous you are good, so even if your not handsome and beautiful you will still be in the program.
>In short. The world need to have industry level production of ethnic whites
>I am speaking as a brown.
Nice, I haven't even read your post yet ffs.

>>482207
Slaws are honorary negroes of e*rope themselves, didn't you get the memo?


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 No.482164[Reply]

So, Saudi Arabia is ditching the prtodollar. Isn't that wild?
What does /leftypol/ make of this one?
Thoughts? Feelings? What's going on?
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 No.482188

Things have been set in motion that can't be turned back now. A big question I'd like answered is whether or not Modern Monetary Theory still applies when you're no longer the world's currency hegemon.


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 No.482189

>>482188
>Things have been set in motion that can't be turned back now.
Technically the US could do a massive political shift away from militarism towards civilian production of goods, and then the rest of the world would try to buy those goods and the Dollar exodus would reverse. The US has a lot of natural resources, a large workforce and a lot of high tech know how that makes this possible. The probability of that happening is somewhat low. The more likely outcome is that no significant political shift occurs and the currently gradual Dollar exodus will go on for a while, but as more and more feedback mechanisms kick in it'll begin to accelerate and follow the curve of an inverted logistical distribution.

>A big question I'd like answered is whether or not Modern Monetary Theory still applies when you're no longer the world's currency hegemon.

Yes and No. The value theory parts of MMT were never correct, regardless of the currency hegemony status. The political application of MMT can still work. Specifically the public sector economy can print money to hire every last employment-excluded citizen as long as those people are instructed to do productive labor (in the strict Marxist definition) and there would be no resulting increase in inflation. There are some caveats, this assumes the US chooses a geo-political path of a managed de-dollarization with a soft-landing. If they continue down the path of ramping up militarism, currency wars and trade wars it'll cause a hard landing with significant inflation pressure, that would make MMT schemes more difficult.
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 No.482197

>>482189
Controlling inflation is as simple as a government-mandated price freeze. The US itself has done it at least twice in history. Inflation isn't controlled, or rather, is actively sought out, because it's a policy to keep workers desperate and difficult to organize.
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 No.482208

The best way to beat inflation long-term is by controlling inflation in land prices - IE taxing the shit out of land speculation so that it becomes unprofitable and land prices drop.
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 No.482214

>>482197
>>482208
So you want to take on big real estate hedge funds like Blackrock ? What's your "game-plan" for doing that ?


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 No.473096[Reply]

India renamed it self, a bit like Turkey recently was renamed into Türkiye. However unlike Türkiye which makes a nice sound, Bharat sounds harsh like somebody burping during speech. They're undoing the colonial naming legacy and have been renaming their cities for some time, but they could have picked a nicer name for their country. Oh well.

I wonder if BRICS for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South-Africa , now has to be spelled BRBCS. 'Brubkess' def. is a downgrade from 'Bricks' too.
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 No.473097

The full regional name, "Bhārat Gaṇarājya," sounds a lot prettier. Ending it on "rat" sounds terrible in English… but it's not an English word anyway, so what do I know?
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 No.473101

>>473097
>The full regional name, "Bhārat Gaṇarājya," sounds a lot prettier.
Any idea where i could listen to somebody saying that aloud.
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 No.482212

i forgot about this. did everyone just ignore it?
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 No.482213

>>482212
Internationally, yeah pretty much, whether they did internally i don't know.
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 No.482221

>Bharat sounds harsh like somebody burping during speech
>they could have picked a nicer name for their country. Oh well.
Look up the definition of cultural appropriation (the og 1)


 No.481737[Reply]

Sunak came out and declared they're on for July 4th. Corbyn's now running as an independent. Andrew Feinstein is running against Starmer, and maybe he'll knock him out of his seat - who knows?

Are you excited, /leftypol/?
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 No.482181

Is it wrong to vote for whoever gets my dick hard?
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 No.482182

>>482181
And who is that?
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 No.482191

>>482180
Wasted vote.
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 No.482192

>>482182
George Galloway.
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 No.482195

>>482191
This. Why even bother making the effort to go to the polling station if you're just going to vote Labour?


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Our society is organized by identity. We have systems that recognize somebodies identity and that grants/denies access to powers and resources. While that mostly works, we might be able to do better. I propose as an alternative that we organize around deeds instead, and have systems recognize actions rather than identities.

History of identities
Early tribal societies used identities and lineages to prevent inbreeding. In slave societies identity was used to keep track of slaves. And in feudal societies identities were used to attach hereditary political power to people. Identity also served persecution alot, for example: which hunting, or in ww2 the Nazis holocausting the Jews. States use identity to attempt to conscript-nap people and force them to wage wars.

Anonymity
This is what enabled many slaves to free them selves. It is what enabled many Jews to evade the extermination camps. It also is necessary for democracy, because votes have to be anonymous in order to prevent coerced votes. Anonymity became a political value during the beginning of the bourgeois revolutions, and are conceptually based on early cities where masses of people had to cooperate without being able to know everybody.

examples for proof of deed, recognize action instead of identity
We already use some systems that recognize action but not identity. For example when you buy a ticket for amusement rides, the ticket grants you access by proving that you payed for the ride, and there is no need to recognize your identity. Voting systems can also work entirely without identity, people vote anonymously, then stick their thumb into a die that stains the skin for a few days and prevents voting more than once.

Political intentions
Proof of deed systems are better at enabling rewards for beneficial actions, while proof of identity systems skew a lot more towards punishment. Proof of deed systems are less easily abused for persecution. Identities also get abused to establish aristocratic domination (privilege for me and burden for thee). So less persecution, more fairness and motivation by the carrot rather than the stick.

A society of the deed would be anonymous safe for interpersonal relations, and perhaps counter-intuitively also more orderly, since it operates on actions directly. One would have to try it out to know for sure.
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 No.482134

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holy hell nig next you're going to tell me that objective truth doesn't exist you Machfag
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 No.482148

>>482134
>objective truth doesn't exist
>Mach
Where do see that in the opening post ?

Why do you think this proposal would philosophically break with materialism and a conception of objective reality ?
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 No.482150

>>482148
Ok I re-read your op. I thought that you were suggesting that systems of identification drove historical development instead of relations of production.
Is your post instead about information technology? I'm confused about the applications of 'deed actions'. If there were to be incentives for a public program it would need financing whether that be in money or labor time. If that's the case then a coupon only system would shut an organizing party out of doing analytics which would be important for evaluating success outside of a raw number of times a program was accessed. What would be the benefit?
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 No.482161

>>482150
>I thought that you were suggesting that systems of identification drove historical development instead of relations of production.
No, i just added the historic bits for context.
>Is your post instead about information technology?
I suppose it would also have an effect on that as well, to be honest i haven't thought that far ahead. I ranted about bio-metrics because i think that it is foolish, and this was just another opportunity to bring that up.
>I'm confused about the applications of 'deed actions'.
You are going too fast, I'm not yet thinking about applications, to me this is in the stage where we think about the philosophy of organizing principles. Most of our current systems of organizing, at the most fundamental level begin with detecting the identity of people interacting with it. I think it's possible that we might do better with systems that center on detecting actions instead of identities. Conceptually the next thought would be to figure out all the ways to recognize an action.
>If there were to be incentives for a public program it would need financing whether that be in money or labor time.
Not yet, i think we would have to begin experimenting in a setting where the stakes are lower. I think this is a very novel idea and it will require trial and error to get a bearing on what works and what doesn't.
>If that's the case then a coupon only system would shut an organizing party out of doing analytics which would be important for evaluating success outside of a raw number of times a program was accessed. What would be the benefit?
This is a reasonable starting point. A coupon for a deed, that would be a system that centers on recognizing actions. Obviously that won't be sufficient. The coupon system would fall short in many ways. Once you collected experience, you can formulate additional structures to compensate for those shortcomings. Figuring this out would be a process. It's not going to be just one mechanism, it'll be multiple ones working in concert.


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