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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello /leftypol/, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftychan.net/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.pictures/post/list/debunk/1
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 No.485134

is there anything like maxists org for modern authors. or modern marxists org


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This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
>>>/777/
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.
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 No.484185

>>484163
>Russia isn't Christian (socialist)
>They have sinned (they're not AES)
This is your brain on capitalist nationalism.


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 No.481775[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Who are you voting for, anon?

So far, the top candidates are:
Jill Stein (Green)
Cornel West (Independent)
Claudia De la Cruz (Party for Socialism and Liberation)
Joseph Kishore (Socialist Equality Party)
and now "Based Chase" Oliver (Libertarian)

and then there are some unserious candidates nobody likes.
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 No.485755

>>485752
Why do Harris voters care about abortion and 'democracy', but not as much the economy or foreign policy?
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 No.485761

>>485755
Generally speaking if they're voting democrat it's because they're economically comfortable and also support the Democrats' fp because orange badman and vladolf putler are friends and want to do big evil together. "Fighting for access to abortion" is one of those feelgood talking points that the dnc has been selling to its base as essential to saving "our democracy" or whatever.
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 No.485762

https://covertactionmagazine.com/2024/11/17/cia-democrats-and-other-party-hawks-win-races-in-2024-election/

>In March 2018, Patrick Martin of the World Socialist Web Site published a political pamphlet entitled “The CIA Democrats.”


>In it, he wrote that “an extraordinary number of former intelligence and military operatives from the CIA, Pentagon, National Security Council and State Department” were “seeking nomination as Democratic candidates for Congress in the 2018 midterm elections.”


>This is a departure from the 1960s and 1970s when Democrats like George McGovern, Leo Ryan and Frank Church were against wars like Vietnam and sought to reign in the CIA.
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 No.485765

>>485751
I literally do not understand why the current left is taking up the mantle to defend liberal idpol. So often on the internet I see people attacking "the left" over culture issues that should have nothing to do with us.

Like DEI for example, instead of taking a reactionary approach and defending it reflexively just because conservatives are against it, we should be pointing out how that kind of investment power is entirely because of capitalism. I mean a lot of what they complain about is literally just capitalism, they are just too ignorant or afraid to name it. This is such an easy win and I will never understand why so many so-called leftists fumble it.
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 No.485766

>>485765
We're getting a lot of converts who were the late straggling holdouts on the crisis of ethics in journalism.


 No.484995[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

One Year of Genocide

Continued from >>483169

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 42,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll, and excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

Hamas political leader and negotiator Ismail Haniyeh was killed in Tehran by an Israeli bombing.

Israel sabotaged the international supply chain to put bombs in 3,000 pagers and other electronic devices in Lebanon, resulting in thousands of injuries and several deaths, in a major blow to both Hezbollah and the Lebanese civilian population.

Israel launched an ongoing series of carpet bombings of the Lebanese capital of Beirut, killing several high-ranking Hezbollah commanders. A strike dubbed "Operation New Order" which used 80 2,000 lb bombs took out several blocks of apartment buildings and killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on September 27, and also killed an IRGC commander.

In early October, Israel began launching ground invasions of south Lebanon, which are ongoing and have met resistance. Thousands have been killed, and over a million displaced.

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 No.485746

>>484995
The exStarminator is trying to change the definition of the word "genocide".

Leaving aside the obvious psychopathy, does it mean the Zionist impunity to commit mass murder is eroding ?

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=i6MWBg6Ap_w
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 No.485747

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US House to vote again on NGO bill that could target pro-Palestine groups

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) said the legislation, dubbed the “nonprofit killer” bill, could return to the floor on Tuesday or Wednesday for a new vote that would only require a simple majority after the bill failed to reach a two-thirds majority last week.

“This act … threatens to chill legitimate criticism of Israel and advocacy for Palestinian human rights while undermining free speech, due process, and nonprofit independence,” CAIR said in a statement.

The Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act, or HR 9495, would grant the Department of the Treasury broad authority to revoke the tax-exempt status of nonprofits deemed to be supporting “terrorism”.

Last week 256 representatives voted in favour of the bill, including 204 Republicans. Among Democrats, 52 voted in favour of the bill while 144 voted against it.

Member of the Knesset cut off while calling Netanyahu a ‘serial killer’

Ayman Odeh, a Palestinian citizen of Israel and head of the Hadash-Ta’al list in Israel’s parliament, has accused Netanyahu, who was in the chamber at the time, of being a “serial killer of peace”.

“There are 17,385 babies in Gaza which your system has killed, of those 825 are under the age of a year,” Odeh said.
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Three Lebanese soldiers killed by Israeli fire in south

The Lebanese army says three soldiers have been killed in an Israeli attack in the south.

“The Israeli enemy targeted an army position in the town of Sarafand in the south, killing three soldiers,” the army said in a statement.

The Health Ministry said the attack also wounded eight people, including “citizens who were nearby”.

Israeli troops use Palestinian paramedics as ‘human shields’: PRCS

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) says Israeli forces used one of its teams as human shields in Jenin, in the occupied West Bank.

Soldiers detained the paramedics inside a house “while they were en route to evacuate an injured person in the eastern neighbourhood of Jenin during a raid on the house”, the emergency service said.

More than 1,000 ultra-Orthodox Israelis hit with arrest warrants for ignoring draft orders
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Incoming Senate leader tells Israel: ‘Reinforcements are on the way’

Senator John Thune, the incoming Republican leader of the Senate, has said that Republicans “will make clear that the United States Congress stands squarely in Israel’s corner” when they reclaim the Senate majority in six weeks.

“To our allies in Israel and to the Jewish people around the world, my message to you is this: reinforcements are on the way,” Thune said in a video shared on X.

“We will help the Trump-Vance administration, defend Israel and promote peace in the region.”

Thune also criticised Senator Bernie Sanders’s push to block US arms sales to Israel and renewed calls for sanctions against the International Criminal Court (ICC) for its investigations into Israeli official’s alleged war crimes.

“The ICC’s rogue actions are a threat to our ally, Israel, and left unchecked, it could pose a threat to America in the future,” he said.

Israel’s latest attack takes death toll among Lebanese soldiers to 41

As we reported earlier, three Lebanese soldiers have been killed in an Israeli air strike on an army base in southern Lebanon’s town of Sarafand.
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 No.476326[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The nuclear threat is back. But we don't see any nuclear panic like in the 1980s. Why is that? Why does nobody care?

I am not some prepper retard but even I am getting nervous.

Just look at this shit
A time of unprecedented danger: It is 90 seconds to midnight
https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/current-time/
>This year, the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moves the hands of the Doomsday Clock forward, largely (though not exclusively) because of the mounting dangers of the war in Ukraine. The Clock now stands at 90 seconds to midnight—the closest to global catastrophe it has ever been.
>As UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned in August, the world has entered “a time of nuclear danger not seen since the height of the Cold War.”

and also this
US Nuclear Test Raises Concerns of New Arms Race With Russia
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-19/us-nuclear-test-on-day-of-kremlin-s-treaty-abdication-fuels-doubt

https://archive.ph/EoqWY
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 No.485757

>>485750
>I don't buy the notion that Trump & Biden are at odds at all. Biden is basically handing Trump a domestic political victory
Why ascribe to conspiracy when you can simply attribute this to a demented, spiteful old man who is no longer mentally competent enough to think ahead?
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 No.485758

>>485750
>I think this is probably what's actually going on - for the record, I don't buy the notion that Trump & Biden are at odds at all. Biden is basically handing Trump a domestic political victory, where Trump can get credit for "deescalating" the conflict in Ukraine without actually doing anything to effectively end the war. The American state will seek to minimize concessions made to Russia.
OK if they're doing a really clever good cop bad cop routine, why are they doing all the other really dumb shit ? They had some major self-owns lately, like helping to bootstrap BRICS, accelerating dedolarization, tanking western economies, provoking a war without having enough ammunition to fight it and on and on. I don't really see what they gain from duping the Russians into delaying a retaliation.

>There are a few problems with this, though. Firstly, the US has proven itself to be very dishonest in the past, and Russia is unlikely to abandon its current partners for the US,

I don't think betrayal was ever on the table. I think the deal that can be had is that the Russians could be moved to convince the Iranians to not get nukes and not finish-off Israel, if they get in return a Ukraine arrangement that they like.

At the moment Israel is destroying it self chasing after gReaTer iSrael. Iran will soon become the dominant regional player as a result, and the Russians probably are the only ones that can convince Iranians to have mercy.

Keep in mind that the more force-projection the US has to expend to prop up Is-failed-state-rael the fewer resources there will be for messing with Russia. So for the Russians it probably doesn't matter that much which way this goes.

>So it's likely a more 'nuanced' strategy than it seems on the surface

It looks like unhinged emotional decisions without any strategy what so ever.
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 No.485759

>>485756
>What's ridiculous is expecting the current US leadership to look at its limitations and make a rational decision based on those.
Ok there's truth to that. But the Pentagon probably wouldn't go along with it, they've demonstrated self-preservation so far.

>Ritter's too optimistic sometimes tbh.

>This would be more effective than striking the US directly ftr, though.
So hypothetically if the Russian decapitate Ukraine, that'll be the result ?

>When was that ever my premise?

OK never mind then.
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 No.485760

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2312-1.html



Chinese Communist Party General Secretary Xi Jinping's reported order to the Chinese military to be prepared to invade Taiwan by 2027 and China's ongoing nuclear buildup have raised U.S. concerns over the prospect of a U.S.-China conflict. A conflict with China would be distinct from the wars the United States has fought in the post–Cold War period against regional powers without nuclear weapons. This report summarizes a series of reports on how U.S. joint long-range strike, especially the U.S. Air Force's bomber force, could adapt to better balance military operational effectiveness, force survivability, and escalation management to achieve desired military and political objectives without triggering catastrophic escalation, specifically Chinese nuclear first use.

This report is the product of a mixed-methods research approach that combined regional studies, analytic strategic theory, and historical case studies, all informed by operational analysis. The authors (1) conducted original Chinese-language research leveraging open-source Chinese military writings; (2) supplemented the limited information available from open-source Chinese military writings with historical case studies and a broad review of analytic strategic theory dating back to early RAND work in the 1950s, along with a literature review of Western scholarship on China; (3) reviewed publicly available U.S. Department of Defense documents and recent non-U.S. government wargames; and (4) developed an analytic framework that linked China’s nuclear escalation with specific technical or employment characteristics of U.S. joint long-range strike.
Key Findings

If fully committed to fighting and winning a war with China, the United States must be prepared for nuclear escalation and place more emphasis on managing these risks.
China's nuclear threshold is unclear but also likely movable, meaning that the United States has an opportunity to make the threshold better (but also risks making it worse).
There will likely be trade-offs among military operational utility, force survivability, and escalation management.
The single most influential factor under U.S. military control for managing escalation is target selection.
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 No.485763

>>485760
The language in these is just amazing.
<Balancing the force survivability
<escalation management
<Build a portfolio of strike force structures

The ability to linguistically trivialize existentially threatening brinkmanship is unparalleled. I wish George Carlin was still alive.


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How did genderism and transgenders become associated with and straight up completely dominate the left? They're regressive ideals. When I was growing up, I was advocating that people should be free to express themselves no matter their sex. I thought it was the progressive consensus at the time. Now they push for identitarianism and I myself frequently suffered abuse at their hands as an androgynous intersex gay man being strongly pushed not only to identify as a woman (because men are le bad(? - I think anyway)) but also pressured to claim to be attracted to female sex characteristics if the owners didn't claim to identify as women, which would be quickly called homophobic and therefore a bigotry in the past but now is being pushed and homosexuals are called bigots for being homosexual.

The 'leftist' politicians no longer even seem to do anything but peddle the culture war focused on gender, especially transgenderism. The liberals don't even seem to believe in it, they just peddle it, with the new man vs woman divide being mostly men vs non-men but when it comes down to it they divide it as 'amab' vs 'afab'.

There are many issues disproportionely affecting men, but no one speaks about it on the left anyway, no one acknowledges many female privileges which become extremely prelavent when the society is struggling: they don't give a fuck about the huge amount of homeless men, how women avoid sentences and get far less harsh sentences (I work in a prison and everyone here speaks of it and it is materially very blatant), how women's wellbeing both physical and mental are prioritised while men's frequently targetted with the aim of making them worse; how in spite of all the alleged progress men are still fully expected to provide and suck all up; the unnamed androcides which are falsely called 'wars' and so much more.

This isn't to even mention how worldwide collectively male genital mutilation is widely encouraged, misnamed to a 'circumcision', but also including nearly all intersex people who will be operated on to make their genitals appear female, no matter the price (health, chronic pain and so much more) - I myself fell a victim a few months ago when a surgeon during a surgery on my urethra decided to perform a partial vaginoplasty without my consent and hide behind my intersex disease claiming it was needed even though I didn't have a vagina and I cannot even fathom how one could rule making one could ever be medically necessaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485716

>>485715
It seems like you're deliberately misreading my post out of some emotional, identarian attachment to a word. That's fine but you should really try to understand that terminology in biology (or any other hard science) is about removing emotions and subjectivity, in order to describe an aspect of the natural world in the most precise and consistent way possible. Precise and consistent language is key in exchanging ideas and testing hypotheses. In biology we do not use intersex to refer to disorders of sexual development, we use it to refer to a widespread aspect of a species' biology that exists because natural selection deemed it to have some kind of fitness advantage.
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 No.485717

>>485716
You're literally just making a delusional semantic argument based on a fantasy idea of biology.

Nothing I say is identitarian; I'm dealing in the objective facts, and that is that this has been the terminology for longer than there's been any kind of retarded "debate" around it. You are basing your disingenuous argument in an ahistorical lie, which is so steeped in contemporary culture war nonsense that you literally refuse to process any fact which contradicts it.

>In biology we do not use intersex to refer to disorders of sexual development,

And yet it's used that way in medicine, and it has been used that way in medicine for longer than you've been alive. Even if your claim that it's not used that way in human biology was correct (and your claim is clearly not), you are in no position whatsoever to lecture anyone about terminology when another hard science, which applies to human medical conditions rather than those of other species (and the author of this thread was, importantly, a human) uses it in the way you claim it isn't used.

>natural selection deemed it to have some kind of fitness advantage.

This also isn't how natural selection works. This is remarkably spooked language coming from someone claiming to be a "biologist" when the reality is that evolution proceeds as incremental mutations which only gradually lead to broadly shared traits. There is no way whatsoever of deciding definitively in a single lifetime whether certain mutations in a species have a functional purpose, and to the contrary we see intersex conditions appearing in the human race over and over again for the entire course of human history. There is no sentient natural selection to appeal to here - it is a largely random force which only makes sense when looked at as a historical process, and if you try to establish that it ""deems"" anything to be a fitness advantage, you'll find that it regularly replicates traits which you yourself would try to define rigidly as disorders. It's magical thinking to assume that evolution, in spite of all evidence, can always be separated neatly into disorders vs. a normal orderly course of progress. Natural selection isn't some guy who decides what stays or goes, it's a process defined after-the-fact by humans observing traits shaped by centPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485720

>>485717
>and it has been used that way in medicine for longer than you've been alive
And it has been used in the study of arthropods in a much clearer defined way for an order of magnitude longer than that. Sociology is a very recent appropriation of the term. I find it especially hilarious that you tried to support your case with a Wikipedia link, when right in the very article they direct you to an alternate article, "Intersex (biology)", in clear acknowledgement that it's a distinct concept in biology. Even Wikipedians agree that it needs to have a separate article to delineate it from your imprecise co-opting of the term in sociology.

>pseudointellectual screed about evolution

Seems we've hit on an insecurity here. There are in fact many ways to establish the selective advantage of a given trait in a population, especially where it occurs in large numbers and you can measure it across generations (unlike for example exceptionally rare disorders found in human populations). Another fun fact about intersex conditions in animal populations: unlike humans with disorders of sexual development, the animals presenting intersex traits are generally not sterile. That is how they persist across generations.
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 No.485737

>How did genderism and transgenders become associated with and straight up completely dominate the left?
1: Western Leftist isn't based on Materialism, but is very much an "outcast" counter-culture that ranks heiarchy based on "oppression". This means leftist spaces find it near impossble to gatekeep against crazies, if those crazies check certain oppression boxes. This is easily manipulated by malicious power hungry types, for decades the black and muslim community who would use the left for their own idpol agendas then stab the left immediately in the back the moment they sniffed power or money, now it's the LGBT community.
2: Modern LGBT movement is essentially Narcissism the movement, and 98% of Transgenderism is viciously Narcissistic Cluster B fuelled AGP and extremely thin skinned autists who think playing a girl is life on "easy mode". Being terminally online, while also pushing all the right oppression boxes, and being experts in tumblr woo academia woke speak and manipulation of statistics and victim narrative, Troons literally took over the entire online left, completely silenced and purged anyone who even just dared questioned their clearly horseshit, delusional claims and mass gaslighting. I mean, look at the "Trans genocide" claims and then realise, Trans people literally have some of the lowest rates of abuse, hate crimes or crime against them of any demographic. Troons a near equal to Zionists in the sheer ability to crybully and spout memorized hasbara horseshit.
This also flows into real life orgs due to number 1, throw on the fact that LGBT today is also the compelte Vanguard force of modern Liberalism and most Western leftists are shitlibs, this means nobody can really stand against them.
To understand how absolutely pathetically dogshit troons are at debating, look at this Trans rights activist just completely fall apart from being asked basic questions and some light pushback against their questionable logic
https://x.com/DouglasSpaeder/status/1852414050145292795
This is why Troonies always scream "TERF" and try ban literally anyone who even dares question some of their logic, because there really is no material coherent basis. It's completely incoherent horseshit and literally based on metaphysical feels.
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 No.485744

>>485715
> I was probably reading the ISNA's site before you were even born,


people often learn about things years after it happens.
People can be ignoranr of phenomenom or terms that have been around since their prime.

Chances are, the peron youre arguing with could be as old or older.


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 No.484154[Reply]

She fucking won. She will be the first female president whether you commies like it or not!
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 No.485693

>>484158
Called it
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 No.485694

>>485693
She didn't get more votes tho.
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 No.485718

>>485694
Election was rigged
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 No.485719

>>485694
True.
I actually underestimated how much of a world historic loser campaign Harris was running. People are calling it the worst campaign of all time. It's a disaster, folks!
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 No.485721

>>485719
yeah it was deff one of the worst./
>The kids are deff feeling liz chenny


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 No.457563[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.


Pro-Russia sources:
https://nitter.net/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/mdfzeh
https://nitter.net/AZmilitary1
https://nitter.net/wargonzoo
https://nitter.net/TheHumanFund5
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/vorposte

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 No.485595

>>485594
In Kursk.
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 No.485597

>>485594
Russia and the DPRK have something like a mutual defense pact, not exactly but similar, can't remember what's it called. So like >>485595 said it's plausible that DPRK fighters could help with defense in Kursk.

This mutual defense thing is pretty recent tho, so it's perhaps more likely that they've just started out doing military cooperation training. You know overcome language barriers, find ways to harmonize military doctrines and so on.

There is another thing, the DPRK has a stupendously massive standing army, and most of those soldiers are also part of something like engineering corps, that build stuff. To make it economically viable to have such a large army.

It's also somewhat likely that the DPRK has "lend" them as labor supply to Russia. For the DPRK that means they can fill up their long term food reserves while all those mouths are eating Russian food, and they probably get industrial and military development in return. The Russians get temporary labor-power to fill the gap caused by all the workers that signed up for military deployment in Ukraine.

The DPRK lacks arable land and as a result their food security is rather tenuous, and sending people away is better than starving them. On the order of 10+ years ago they send workers to Poland where they worked industrial jobs for the parts-supply industry, they used to send workers to the Soviet Union also, so this is not unusual.

The mainstream media has picked up this story because they're looking for cope to explain away Russia's ability to withstand the "Nato proxy pressure" and to maintain the exaggeration-lie about the number of Russian battle-field losses, which in reality likely are much lower than reported in mainstream media.

Another aspect to consider is, whose initiative this would have been. The DPRK knows how hard it gets when there's no "big-power-friend" from the "dark times" in the 1990s, so if any of these rumors prove true, it's somewhat likely that the DPRK would have been eager to prove to the Russians they're good for it.

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 No.485599

>>485594
Definitely the most retarded piece of neocon war propaganda we've heard in a while.
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 No.485703

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Uh oh, looks like World Famous Actor Zelensky is finally gonna be out of the job soon. Neocon rags like The Economist are talking about Ukraine elections scheduled for 2025, with America's favored puppet Valery Zaluzhny "polling well" against Zelensky.

https://archive.is/Kce28

Guess he played his cards wrong when he threatened a few weeks ago to blackmail the US by pursuing nuclear weapons if they stopped sending endless military support. Turns out the West has its own threshold for nuclear power they can't control, much like his statement at the Munich Security Conference in 2022 finally prompted the Russian invasion.

The big question for the Z-man is gonna be whether a spook agency will have any sympathy after they've finished using him and have any willingness to abscond him out of Ukraine to the safety of some Western asylum, or whether they'll leave him out to dry and presumably hanging from a lamppost in Kiev.
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 No.485705

>>485703
>Turns out the West has its own threshold for nuclear power they can't control,
Maybe, although the Russians probably gained some leverage because they're exerting a moderating influence on Iran when it comes to nukes.

>Ukraine elections scheduled for 2025

I'm curious about how that's going to go.
You know with the US trying to install a new client regime and the Russian intending to purge the Banderites.


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 No.485632[Reply]

If Trump keeps making good decisions like these, I don't give a fuck who calls themself right or left.

RFK Jr. actually cares about making America healthy, which is it it's #1 or #2 issue overall. Nice fucking decision. Made me happy.
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 No.485691

>>485690
Obviously replace autism score filter with the appropriate two letters :)
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 No.485695

>>485690
>floride alert .org

>Look bros here's my totally not full of shit website that is totally unbiased.


Fuck off clown man
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 No.485696

>>485695
Your tier of argumentation is:
>I don't like the messenger so these scores of peer-reviewed scientific studies are invalid.

Pretty low on the totem, level up anon.
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 No.485701

>>485696
uyghur it's equivalent to citing info wars you're fooling no one
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 No.485711

>faggots here suck all over some fucking high-up uyghur
Holy fuck if Flomp still won't build the fucking wall we will have a shortage of housing due to all the shills getting shot.


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What actually is "Fascism" these days?
Leftists these days will seemingly call, quite literally anything, that isn't the most ultra-liberal, "progressive" position of the day "Fascism", that adhering to social beliefs that were literally the mainstream even among most leftists a decade ago, is "Fascism", that mild center-right neoliberalism is "Fascism", that the policies of the CPC or CPSU are "Fascism", that positions even Marx would hold are "Fascism", hell, even .org is now claiming Cockshott is a fascist.
This is slightly bizarre to me, because I was under the impression that Fascism was a very specific ideology born out of Italian Futurism, Nietzschean master/slave morality, adaption of tradition to a new modernist futurist framework and a concept of social/state organism (all elements of society are an living organism, the family unit being cells etc, capitalism the brain, the state the body etc If any element is sick, like families are all unhealthy fatties, then it harms the wider "body") and suddenly I'm learning that literally everyone who isn't a radical shitlib suddenly adheres to this ideology.
I didn't realise I was so blind for so long. Can I read about Trump's statements on the application social-state organism? I didn't know that Cockshott believes Christianity as a slave morality should be abandoned and the return of heroic folk paganism should be returned, what work did he mention that? What? Norm Finklestein questioned the current zeigeist of gender and race politics so is "Red-Brown" now? Does that mean he considers Pasta as a food that caused lassitude and should be replaced by brown rice which promotes virility? (yes, this was a core belief of Fascist movements)
Oh wait, none of this is true because the idea that Fascism exists anymore, or that completely mainstream miquetoast opinions that weren't even controversial among Leftists before Tumblr brain is completely and totally fucking retarded.
The only lasting legacy of Fascism, is the fucking loser scions of Eastern European Nazi collaboraters who try to sully the memory of the Soviet Union in WW2 by whitewashing their nazi collaborater grandparents as "Anti-Bolshevik, anti-totalitarian heroes" and this is generally all now purely done because they seethe at Russia for winning and their grandparents being fucking loser traitors, not because they actually adhere to Fascist beliefs.
Fascism literally doesn't exist anymore. It's the Dubstep of ideologies. YesPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485669

>>485663
>Read Fascist theorists, it absolutely is an ideology with it's own tenants and theory, no different from Marxist Leninism or Neoliberalism.
I tried that, you know as a exercise in know-your-enemy. And it's not coherent enough to be a theory or an ideological worldview.
Let me give some insights into aspects of fascist "theories".

One winter day some Nazi forgot to put coal into the oven that heats the water and took an especially cold shower, But he felt strangely invigorated, because exposure to cold jumps up the metabolic rate to heat the body back up. That also creates a natural high that feels really good. Many cultures in cold regions figured out the up-sides of dipping in ice-cold water, usually followed by a sauna session. However the fascists turned that experience into Aryans are special Ice-people with a hole origin story, alternate geological history and physics. They're not the first to make up mythology out of mundane shit like cold. But you can't call stuff like that a theory.

>Its a ideology of Traditionalist futurism

Italian fascism (Musolini type) borrowed the aesthetics and slogans of the futurists, but they didn't pursue any of the goals the futurists had.
>and nationalist social organism.
This is just word salad, let me explain:

First the shape of an organism at the most basic is an enclosed body, nations would be like an exploded carcass that splattered it guts all over the place, but it remains alive because little ants interconnect the dispersed organs.

Social organization in all forms do not mimic biology. Biology is a mad free for all where everything expands along metabolic pathways with random cross-connects. Imagine biology inspired social organization to be like the mail-man breaking into your house to deliver the mail, steal your coffee and clip the toe nails of your dog, clean your toilet and then take a shit in your bathtub. Biology works but it's chaotic as hell.
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 No.485670

Literally no one on the internet gets fascism right in its meaning, despite a wealth of historical information and writing from the fascists themselves about what they did and intend to do. It's funny that in all of the discussion the obvious - look at what the horse's mouth is saying - is ignored. Fascist organizations aren't difficult to miss and they will tell you they want to kill all of the communists and socialists and democrats in the world as a start, and give you their reasons why. The cowardliness of the left is so conditioned into them that they defeat themselves and they're the only ones who have doubts about what fascism is. Whether anyone else cares about stopping fascists is another question altogether.

If you're looking for fascism as a stable political idea, Futurism and Nietzschean moral "thought" are the obvious indicia. The fascists wrote considerably about the origin of their movement in syndicalism, the origin of the Blackshirts in Italy, and what is known about Mussolini's history (since he spoke English and was for a time a well-regarded and "normal" world leader). The Nazi Party has been described by god knows how many sources and by neo-Nazis who never left "the real movement". Fascism is not so specific that it is a fantastical unicorn, but the first people to lie about fascism are the post-1945 revisionist slime like Eco (worked for the fascists, sickening that this asshole is promoted as an anti-fascist). Then if you really know what Gramsci was, he was basically saying fascism or something like it was how the revolution would happen - a coup of the state and corruption of its institutions. They were abandoning mass politics because they saw in the 1920s that no longer worked for their aims, evidence being the first world war and all that followed. More and more, the communists were divorced from any democratic interpretation of "communism", and really doubted anything we would consider "communist" that the USSR aspired to be. The communists were all for the institutions now, and to hell with the now-worthless masses, us "sacks of potatoes".

The corporatist obsession was more of a post-war retrenchment of Germanic essentialism and the core Nazi spiritual principles. The analogy of the body and corporation was used by the fascists, but this is not unique to fascism. Communism doubted the corporate state but the "party of new type" was effectively "Communism Inc." Political elitism, which posited the political ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485673

One thing I try to tell people is that we're not getting "fascism" as such. We're getting full eugenism, and that leads to a novel situation that no political ideology or "system" adequately describes. But, fascism still very much exists and informs far more thought than we're "allowed" to acknowledge. The "cultured fascist" artfully denies their link to Nazi atrocities but upholds the thinking of the German ideology, and to fascist conceptions of the technocratic polity as their preferred, "efficient" model. The thing we're getting is very much endorsed by those who would be fascists in that time, in the same spirit and for the same purpose. What has changed is that what the fascist wanted to do with fascism is now the only idea - "there is no alternative" is precisely this. They don't "need" fascism or a particular projection for some ill-conceived ulterior motive or because the rulers have a fetish for it and don't know what they're doing. What we're getting is fascism for the poor and a type of socialism for the rich. The "national socialist" stage of history is gone forever, but "national socialism" was neither national nor socialist. Nazism or the slop that was "national socialism" was about cannibalizing the nation and selling it off, and that's all the Germans did from 1933 to 1945. There are arguments from fascists about whether Germany was "fascist" at all, since the Nazis continued the German State of before with little interruption. Germans despised democracy to their core and mocked the idea, and were told how much stronger they are than weak and gay democracy. Fascism does not have a monopoly on anti-democratic impulses, and while no interpretation of fascism was democratic in the sense that we would consider worthwhile, it regarded a "democratic" basis that was subsumed within the state. The interests of the state and its office-holders were to become the interests of the masses, and there was not explicitly anything forbidding a low rank scumbag from becoming a fascist, as long as he remembered what it was for and that he's there to become an elite himself. What was forbidden was any sense of political equality or legal rights, and look at where we are today in the liberal order of things in the 21st century. In our time, freedom is now "freedumb" and the concept is now "fake and gay".
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>>485669
Good post, decently organized, makes clear points and is easy to read.

>>485670
>>485673
Unhinged wall of text by someone with an inflated ego.
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 No.485679

>>485678
You and you mother are whores.


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