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 No.487883[Reply]

What will happen to this site and leftypol if there is an actual revolution
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 No.487886

Probably depends on whether internet infrastructure gets damaged or not. If anything sites like this will be shut down before a revolution happens.
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 No.487887

>>487883
Not sure what you mean ?

Do you think that shitposting is merely a symptom of capitalist alienation ? and once socialism is installed that goes away ?

I doubt that very much.
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 No.487888

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>>487886
It would have to be a global rev of some sort to shut this place down. The server aren't in burgerland. But burger fags need to be on the look out because the burger gov is talking about reppealing S230 and has tried before. They were talking about it in the D.O.G.E oversight comity hearing when musks bullshit got started.

If you guys are not familiar with radio. Now is a good time to get into shortwave and ham radio because that is the way to get news and information in when you live in regime dictator-ships.
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 No.487893

IDK OP, let's find out. Arm, organize, help others do the same. Help with agitprop, do OC, let's build the community and gain power and then see what happens to the site.

>>487886
I've said for years, but socialists desperately need to fucking be working on alternative internet infrastructure… whether it's mesh internet (which I don't fully understand) or something more conventional, it's extremely fucking worrying that I don't think we have even the slightest fucking handle on this or funding for it.

>>487888 is also a good post though.
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 No.487904

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>>487893
I think that radio is the most intuitive. I don't think we will get the internet full shut down, or, something. Maybe….a firewall like china? Idfk with the reactionaries at the helm anything is possible. I deff know that if section 230 got repealed though it would vreak a lot of the internet as it exists today and data degradation is already is a huge problem. AKA "Link rott"

Mesh nets are a cool idea, but, it's a lot easier to pick up a 100W CB Radio off ebay and shoot skip. The major problem is infrastructure. The modern internet already has the infrastructure for the modern internet. Mesh nets don't have anywhere near the same infrastructural hegemony as the internet.


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 No.476004[Reply]

In which onion forum can secret intelligence exchanges be seen?

War always hurts civilians, fuck wars.
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 No.476005

>>476004
>secret intelligence exchanges
care to explain what that means ?
Is this about spies and top secret documents ?

>be seen

isn't secrecy about not being seen, why'd you expect that anything would be visible to outsiders like us.

>War always hurts civilians, fuck wars.

true
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 No.476009

>>476004
You're looking for the War Thunder forums.
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 No.476029

>>476009
DHS sama, you're talking to MI6 kun rn
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 No.476067

>>476004
#Thug_Shaker_Central @ fbi.gov

Now fuck off, faggot.
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 No.487868

>>487867
mods


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 No.483825[Reply]

In only six months, Sahra Wagenknecht's new party has BTFO'd the remnants of Die Linke and is already the 3rd most popular party in recent German state elections in Thuringia and Saxony. Is she gonna do it, anons? Can Germany be saved after all?
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 No.487790

>>487789
Only true of Germans.
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 No.487797

>>487762
>>487764
>>487789
Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson give a good breakdown of this at the start of an interview today.
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 No.487811

>>487797
Interesting point that they think the BSW might politically benefit from not being in parliament while the next government continues the status quo path of wreckage.
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 No.487836

>>487789
how many people who lived under fascism are still alive today?
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 No.487849

>>487836
Good point, that other guy was also leaving out the part where communism in east Germany ended 30 years ago, and what ever political situation exists now can't possibly be blamed on that, but rather should be seen as the consequence of what happened after the Soviet system was dissolved.


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 No.483782[Reply]

These kinds of people are literally just black chuds, they worship "black owned businesses", they have their own black version of schizo-tier race science (Yakub), are religious extremists (just Muslim instead of Christian), are often antisemitic, homophobic, etc., and essentially just want a Fourth Reich but in Africa ("Pan-Africanism"). Basically take any /pol/ talking point but replace "Jews" with "whites" and "Europe" with "Africa". There's a reason the American Nazi Party regularly attended Nation of Islam conferences.
How do you get them to realize they have a lot more in common with the white proletariat than the black bourgeosie?
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 No.487670

>>487667
Paternalistic babble.
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 No.487800

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>>483782
Unironically Dr.Umar is closer to getting it than most people on this website.
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 No.487820

>>483782
It needs to be said… the push back on black idpol justifies itself with the necessity of collaboration to fix massive financial issues, but it is obvious that these people are doing the whole bit to feel better about themselves. They're insecure, and believing that an evil black genius cooked white people up in a lab or that black people had floating pyramid temples is a way for them to feel significant. Many men need self-confidence, and some men need placement in a grand history.

I habitually mock black people relentlessly- I've been banned from every olive garden, every mcdonalds, every burger king. Black people love fighting, they love getting angry, and as a Byronic shadow empath I have to oblige.

But, it is obvious that suppressing the "we wuz kangz" impulse is not going to help them thrive. When a guy comes around draped in colorful dutch wax print, that guy is not someone I need to antagonize. That man, has demons. This means he may be on the precipice of genius. I refuse to drag him away from that caldera.
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 No.487834

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>>487820
This is terminally online retardation.
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 No.487848

>>487820
>as a Byronic shadow empath
Apparently byronic is a painting style, name after a guy with the name Lord Byron, (who the fuck names their kid "Lord"), anyway apparently his paintings were about despair and misanthropy.

Now all i need to know is wtf a "shadow empath" is. Wasn't "empath" a scifi thing about telepathy ?


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 No.487266[Reply]

Comrades,

I come to you today to convey what I deem an urgent message regarding the tumultuous times that lie ahead. In brief, I have substantial reasons to believe that we are on the precipice of a significant escalation in censorship on a global scale. Indeed, I regret to inform you that this troubling trend seems to have already commenced. For those seeking to bypass these oppressive measures, I encourage you to focus on the tools and guides that follow.

For various reasons—some of which must remain undisclosed—I urge all to swiftly acquire fundamental skills to counter what I categorize as mid-level censorship tactics. Below are some points I can share to underscore the gravity of this situation.

Firstly, the United States made a genuine attempt to ban TikTok, an app that, while initially intended for lighthearted dance videos, has now evolved into one of the fastest avenues for disseminating information. It is worth noting that despite the attempted ban, my investigations (details withheld for security) have revealed a marked increase in censorship compared to the period prior to this initiative.

Moreover, I suspect that the Tor Project anticipates a rise in global censorship, which may jeopardize the Tor network's capacity to circumvent these mechanisms. However, I am constrained from disclosing further information on this matter.

Additionally, it has come to my attention that several social networks are actively suppressing links and discussions surrounding tools designed to combat censorship, such as Linux and Distrowatch.

Here is a concise list of essential tools, predominantly free software, that I recommend:

1. An affordable laptop or desktop.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.487618

>>487603

Never heard of it but i would stick with what most people use like simplex and signal.
To my knowledge signal is at least more battle tested than whatever delta is by suppoenas to my knowledge>>487603
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 No.487721

Signal Compromise Likelihood Increase

When I mentioned on .org that Signal was compromised I was immediately told to kill myself and there were an interesting amount of other emotionally charged language from an anon attempting to claim expertise when they clearly couldn't understand the methodology of the audit they used as proof of its soundness.

Soon after I made it clear their reactions to me were tells that demonstrated that Signal shouldn't be trusted .org went down.

Salient; Coincidence or significant?
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 No.487722

>>487721
Signal has been suspect for years, ever since the worm in charge of it ("Moxie Marlinspike") decided that they weren't ever going to release the server code so that people could self-host it.
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 No.487737

>>487721

Well what else do we have for secure messaging?
Simplex?

Theres generally more faith in signal due to it having been battle tested by the us gov in the past, so i believe naturally people are hostile to believing in criticism of the app ss being a fed product
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 No.487831

I address you in a spirit of utmost seriousness. We find ourselves at a critical juncture—indeed, we are at Defcon 1. I am in the process of revising my technological recommendations, and I shall provide more comprehensive updates as swiftly as possible. I apologize for my recent absence; my efforts are now directed toward collaborating with multiple factions within the resistance. This message will be brief, yet I assure you, further elaboration will follow in the coming days!
In true revolutionary fashion, I have been engaged in Soviet-style shock work for our cause, and I encourage each of you to do the same. Below, you will find two significant updates!
Firstly, I am in direct communication with numerous members of the resistance, including the alternative park rangers. I possess the ability to leak vital information to them, albeit with the necessity of maintaining strict anonymity. We can ensure that neither your names nor your email addresses are exposed—layers of protection are paramount! Furthermore, I can provide leaks to other groups I am assisting, ensuring that your data remains fully anonymized before any information is transmitted.
Next, I must convey an urgent update regarding my technological advice. There exists an elevated risk associated with our communications; an exploit has emerged in signal that could potentially lead to de-anonymization. Moreover, we face increasing challenges concerning anti-censorship efforts. Therefore, my current recommendation is to utilize Briar and to avoid cell phones whenever possible. A more detailed update will be forthcoming, likely in a new thread. Major updates are urgently required!
Comrades, it is imperative that we all contribute to our collective struggle! I implore you to prepare an extensive E-library of banned literature—our intellectual arsenal must be as robust as our resolve!


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 No.487825[Reply]

Meant to post about this before today, best of luck though!
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 No.487827

No McDonald's?!?
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 No.487828

>>487827
IT IS FORBIDDEN!!!
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 No.487829

Who's organizing this? Did someone neglect to inform them that organizing is more than sharing a flyer on social media? General strikes don't happen from viral sensations like in the movie Network.
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 No.487830

>>487829
Someone'll probably buy less. But yeah, I don't have high expectations for this. Good on them, but they should actually do it better.


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 No.486421[Reply]

THE STATE CALLS ITS VIOLENCE AGAINST THE INDIVIDUAL LAW AND THAT OF THE INDIVIDUAL AGAINST THE STATE CRIME!
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 No.487793

>>487792
>i disagree with you therefor you like trump
Anyway. Name one political dissonant they didn't try to smear with the exact same tactics. I'll wait.
https://www.vox.com/2015/8/11/9127653/bernie-sanders-black-lives-matter
https://www.npr.org/2016/03/07/469545384/bernie-sanders-faces-criticism-over-comments-on-race
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 No.487794

>>487793
They would never smear my party, The Terrorism Party, for being racist. The Terrorism Party is the least racist party there is! They can't touch us!
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 No.487795

>>487793
>they can't smear me as racist because i'm not racist!
My sweet summer child.
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 No.487796

>>487795
They WILL NOT call The Terrorism Party racists!
They WOULD NEVER slander our good name that way!
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 No.487816

>>487791
>Name one political dissonant they didn't try to smear
The point of calling it the terrorism party was to pre-empt smears.
You might also need to declare that your terrorism party is also hyper-racist and whatever else they might throw at you, to continue pre-empting. If you do it with very thick sarcasm, and practice the opposite, you might gain a layer of political teflon, where none of the smears stick anymore.


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 No.482869[Reply]

Why did the Western far-left become the 2SLGBTQRPGMMO+++ rainbow mafia?
It genuinely is perplexing to me that Western leftists seem to hold even the most absurd AGP sex fetish shit and BPD tumblr furry xenogender larping as the most ultimate leftist purity test, yet then will accept literal fucking Capitalists into the movement wihtout hesitation.
I used to think this shit was exaggerated, but it's honestly not, most western leftist spaces are just rainbow mafia/idpol obsessed and you can't push back on even the most absurd, eye rolling narratives, without getting asked to leave, or if online, copping a ban, this includes communities like leftypol(dot)org.
Even holding the same policy positions, as most Communist Parties in the Global South, will get you banned from basically any Westoid "Leftist" space. Leftypol lets you claim Xi is based or whatever, but if you actually espouse his policies, enjoy your ban because it doesn't align with Western Idpol shit.
Why is the Western left like this? Don't they realise that this shit makes them look like absolute pozzed student larping retards to the majority of the working class?
Would most Western "leftists" even want to live in a Working Class led society? They do realise the Working Class is largely soft-Socially Conservative right?
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 No.487533

>>487532
By
>Why is your default metric for the virtue of a political order are the wages it's workers receive?

I meant
Why is your default metric for the virtue of a political order the wages it's workers receive?
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 No.487537

>>487532
>>487533
>Why is your default metric for the virtue of a political order the wages it's workers receive?
Not that anon, technically the metric would be delta-wages, as in how much do wages increase over time.

I think that after decades of real wage stagnation under Neo-liberlaism it should be obvious why.
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 No.487579

>>487537
I know what the wage system entails, and it is obvious to me that it is not good for the people it entraps no matter what they are bribed with.
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 No.487607

>>486491
Because of some insecurity and standard set up by the previous imageboards they went to, desperately not wanting to be anything like the sjw boogeymen. It's also a very easy and smart way for right wing opportunists to sneak in reactionary viewpoints against minorities or other people, "You don't want to be 'woke', right?"
>>487439
>Immigrant/Ethnic Minority politics is inherently antagostic to the native population, and for the most part leftists here are just being played as useful idiots by people who largely disagree with everything the Left actually stands for. Your average Black dude or Muslim chick opposes 90% of the shit Leftists or even Liberals believe in.
Like this absolute fucking anti materialist ooga booga spiritual trite. You side with this dude and get rid of black or muslim dudes, you crippled your own movement by getting rid of people who relate to you on class boundaries, and then he'll get rid of you when you only got reactionary idpol'ers left. Ironic,because this is LITERALLY what many right-wing gays say about nonwhite people, though he probably thinks they're all "faggots" and not in the imageboard sense.
Anyways, I think it's fucking retarded and even though I think a lot of the gay shit is silly and irrelevant(even when not talking about working class issues specifically, you can't compare transphobia to shit nonwhite people have faced, hell unscratch that, their issues are directly connected with labor 9/10 times), I won't pretend they're worse than people who will actively violently refuse leftist issues and solutions. I don't give a shit, I prefer them and their cringe flags over that. Attacking them for their gay shit helps no one, it just gives the right more talking points and seem like their valid in picking boogeymen.
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 No.487773

>CIA/NSA chat room overrun by Troons
>They literally turn it into a creepy polyamory kink sex grooming chat.
>Bunch of the shit in there is literally gay conversion therapy talking points.
LMAO. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.


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 No.487293[Reply]

"A primitive; radical cell is best organized in a militaristic, wrathful and amoral way in order to erode the tyranny of the industrial age which continues to consume humanity, internally and externally, leaving a path of ecological sorrow wherever a factory may dump its waste." — @ChimeraMidnight
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 No.487295

Tell us more
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 No.487742

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Yeah, fuck the fucking industrial society. Ted K was right
The Unabomber manifesto has some parts that are very similar to marxist analysis. Read it.
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 No.487744

Who wants to return to primitivism? Try it for a week. Don't be a Luddite, move THROUGH modern technological society to a new paradigm. Do it in a militaristic, wrathful and amoral way if you want.
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 No.487745

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>>487742
Nah, fuck off already. Ted spend decades in jail and somehow never managed to grasp the absolute basics of Marx's Capital while he spent his time beating up a straw man of the left. LSD is a helluva drug.
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 No.487747

>>487742
>>487745
IIRC the only thing about Kaczynski's ideas which overlapped with Marxism in any way was his basic (correct) assertion that the progress of technology and production fundamentally changes the character of society. This is a really simple materialist observation about how economics and society work, which inevitably made it mindblowing in the context of the idiotic 1990s era of neoliberalism and culture war shit where the relationship between production and culture was completely obfuscated in popular analysis.


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 No.487033[Reply]

Honestly, I'm sick of Trump already. He's just been going around, ordering the drilling of oil (aka destroying the fucking planet) and making a bunch of useless changes – none of which make America better. I'm a democratic socialist, and I believe that Trump needs to be IMPEACHED. Except that would leave Vance, who I'm not too fond of either. Trump has been ABUSING EXECUTIVE POWER, and I just wish he would fucking stop. What do you think about this?
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 No.487585

>>487062
Most emotionally stable liberal
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 No.487614

>>487067
This is the problem. The meta-presidential powers are making him out to be "The Man In Charge" just because of Trump's big mouth

Donald Trump is getting exactly what he wanted. He never cared about doing his job. He only wants the drama because he gets attention and profits.

Trump is only good at running his mouth.
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 No.487655

>>487060
The January 19 ceasefire in Gaza was the result of the May 2024 talks started by the Biden admin. Trump had no involvement in it. This is confirmable with a simple search / Wikipedia check. As for "why didn't Biden stop the genocide," there is a certain thing called a path dependency.
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 No.487656

>>487655
In May, Hamas agreed to it. The Biden admin then turned around and claimed the opposite and continued to support Israel without applying any pressure on Israel whatsoever.

It was not until Witkoff visited Netanyahu and, reportedly, made threats to Israel that Israel immediately agreed to the ceasefire agreement which Hamas had already agreed to in May of 2024. I do not know if I believe the official account, I think that Trump may very well have simply made a deal with the Israelis beforehand, but in any case, Biden refused to apply any serious pressure at all on the Israelis, lied on behalf of the Israelis by (falsely) blaming Hamas for the failure to reach an agreement, and bears no credit whatsoever for the ceasefire. Whether Trump made a deal behind the scenes or simply applied the pressure that he reportedly (according to people who were in the office when Witkoff visited Netanyahu) applied on the Israelis, he took action which got the result. Biden categorically refused to do that.
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 No.487657

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>>487656
>In May, Hamas agreed to it.
Picrel: Palestinians in Gaza celebrating the ceasefire agreement on May 6, 2024. Israel proceeded to immediately back out of and sabotage the deal after Hamas had already agreed to it, and the Biden admin then proceeded to lie on Israel's behalf and pretend that Hamas was the party blocking the deal.


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