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 No.486616[Reply]

<In a letter to the editor of Scotland's Sunday Herald, Dawkins argues that the time has come to lay this spectre to rest. Dawkins writes that though no one
wants to be seen to be in agreement with Hitler on any particular, "if you can breed cattle for milk yield, horses for running speed, and dogs for herding skill,
why on Earth should it be impossible to breed humans for mathematical, musical or athletic ability?"
<"I wonder whether, some 60 years after Hitler's death, we might at least venture to ask what the moral difference is between breeding for musical ability and
forcing a child to take music lessons. Or why it is acceptable to train fast runners and high jumpers but not to breed them," Dawkins wrote Sunday.
Breeding humans for PEAK PERFORMANCE would be a good thing imo. Too bad it'll happen only in a technologically advanced communal society with
polyamorous kinship, which could materialize in the near future.

I don't know what's the issue, just don't let literal retards or people with disabilities
that can be passed down to have kids

literally who cares? there's no real argument against eugenics, not even moral arguments work that well, it's a win win situation

it would interfere with the bodily autonomy of the parent/s what do we do?
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 No.486783

>>486775
>A lot of people seem to think that knowing how to solve advanced algebra equations without a calculator is more important than learning how to do basic home reapir.
Most of the blame for that goes towards industry that pushed for a throw-away culture. We could go back to repair culture, but you have to bully the industry to make stuff that can be fixed.

>Ive been saying that our popular culture plateaued in the mid-late 1980s.

>The technology, fashion, music, and media graphics.
Yeah that's probably caused by neoliberal economics. Everything had to go through the comercialism funnel, and new ideas rarely make it past that. Also the increasing rate of exploitation meant that people have less time and are more exhausted which isn't helping creativity.
Whether that also explaines stagnation in the "warbiz" I don't really know.

>Wrong. What is happening is the other way around.

I guess that's somewhat true, but if we invested into brain-science maybe we could figure out how to cure what ever brain-damage causes the neocons to drive towards human extinction through war. In that case scientific advances would lead to less militarism.
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 No.486784

>>486783
>I guess that's somewhat true, but if we invested into brain-science maybe we could figure out how to cure what ever brain-damage causes the neocons to drive towards human extinction through war. In that case scientific advances would lead to less militarism

Why do people think moral compasses are neurocognitively created?
Morality isn't something that's genetic. It's a transcendent force.

But,if you want my guess, methinks some of them are influenced by demonic entities.
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 No.486785

>>486784
>Why do people think moral compasses are neurocognitively created?
>Morality isn't something that's genetic. It's a transcendent force.
I'm setting the bar quite a bit lower than a "moral compass" , not trying to make your own species go extinct that's a reasonable ask.

The neocons baiting nuclear war, that's a behavior, like learning the guitar or reading a book are also behaviors. The brain causes behaviors. I have no idea what's causing neocon brains to malfunction. I'm quite puzzled why you jump to the conclusion it would be genetic, it doesn't seem very likely that evolution would select for "deliberate self-extinction genes".

Anyway i didn't intent for this to be entirely serious, i don't really expect anybody to medicate neocons away. Maybe people eventually grow tired of all the bullshit and they get thrown into a lava pit.

>But,if you want my guess, methinks some of them are influenced by demonic entities.

And the demonic entities are what ? Think tanks that come up with these schemes ?
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 No.486812

>>486628
>All he has done is stoke among the public needless hostility against biologists.

Maybe If your folks degree aren't the most useless among the STEM fields people would be less hostile toward your people
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 No.486815

>>486812
Curious how you came to that conclusion anon.


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 No.486695[Reply]

It's coming out that Matthew Livelsberger, the guy who exploded a Tesla in Las Vegas, was a special forces operations director & intelligence manager. Shamsud Din Jabbar did a car attack on the same day, but in New Orleans, which killed 16 people and injured 35, allegedly in connection with ISIS, and according to The Independent, he was allegedly stationed at the same base as Matthew Livelsberger:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/cybertruck-explosion-suspect-matthew-livelsberger-trump-hotel-b2672672.html

What are your thoughts, /leftypol/?
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 No.486746

>>486743
The highlighted part is the bit I found more interesting.
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 No.486747

>>486744
>Maybe we learn from this and categorize back-doors and all similar types of access-schemes as a conspiracy to engage in espionage.
This presumed that "we" are in control of US gov't policy as opposed to a cabal of power-grubbing creeps who are extra paranoid because they are actively committing atrocities which people will want revenge for.
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 No.486761

>>486717
Israel is an american satellite, they aren't pushing shit nor are they trying to "cannibalize" the USA because the moment the USA stop existing or lose their hegemony it's the moment Israel is completely fucked as nobody wants to cover their dumb asses including most jews.
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 No.486762

>>486761
>Israel is an american satellite, they aren't pushing shit nor are they trying to "cannibalize" the USA because the moment the USA stop existing or lose their hegemony it's the moment Israel is completely fucked as nobody wants to cover their dumb asses including most jews.
Eh, it's not like the US can take back all the money and weapons if the US collapses.
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 No.486778

Soldier shot self in head before Cybertruck exploded outside Trump’s Las Vegas hotel: Officials


 No.486585[Reply]

Per CNN:
Body-worn camera footage released Friday shows correctional officers at the Marcy Correctional Facility in upstate New York punching and kicking a handcuffed inmate in a fatal beating that is now under investigation by the New York attorney general.

Robert Brooks was pronounced dead on December 10 at Wynn Hospital in Utica, according to Attorney General Letitia James. Brooks, 43, had been serving a 12-year prison sentence since 2017 for first-degree assault, prison documents show.

CNN has reviewed the footage, parts of which show surrounding officers kicking and punching Brooks, who has his hands handcuffed behind his back in a medical examination room. Brooks’ face appears bloody in some of the footage.

At one point, an officer appears to shove something in Brooks’ mouth before repeatedly hitting him in the face. Another officer then punches Brooks in the groin before using a shoe to strike him.

The New York Attorney General’s Office of Special Investigations previously announced it had opened an investigation into Brooks’ death.

https://archive.is/LrIqT
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/27/us/marcy-correctional-facility-death-robert-brooks/index.html
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 No.486591

How often does this happen without cameras?
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 No.486599

>>486591
Probably a lot.
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 No.486733

>>486585
death penalty
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 No.486734

>>486585
probably more humane for the law to allow for them to kill violent prisoners then torture them like this


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 No.486668[Reply]

Thread mostly for disasters, but also some good things. What happened this year?
I can think of a few things:
Genocide and regional war in the middle east
Fall of Damascus
War in Ukraine continues to escalate (and US starts arming Azov again)
BioLab explodes in Georgia (AGAIN)
Coup attempt in South Korea
Arrest warrants for Israeli leaders (and US president sued for complicity!)
That CEO got shot
H5N1
Police states in western "democracies" brutally crack down on anti-genocide protests
Leftist coalition wins in France, Macron refuses to acknowledge it (and some shit happens in Germany, too)
Telegram guy arrested by France
Julian Assange let off (on the condition that he plead guilty to journalism)
TikTok ban
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 No.486675

>>486673
I think this was a government psyop. They just needed a good reason to go hard against the liberals
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 No.486676

>H5N1
>TikTok ban

>considered good things
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 No.486680

>>486675
So the man was shot multiple times and almost died out of some sneaky scheme to give himself more power?
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 No.486693

>>486676
That wasn't my thinking when I wrote the OP but I guess it's subjective.
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 No.486694

>>486676
>OP text:
>Thread mostly for disasters


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 No.486540[Reply]

This past year's "beef" between Kendrick Lamar and Drake was nothing more than a contrived plot in order to distract the masses from the genocide in Gaza. Both rappers are signed to labels which are under the umbrella of UMG which is owned by ultra-Zionist Lucian Grainge. Every stream from Kendrick's music is being used to fund Zionist genocide of Palestinians. But this goes far deeper and I'm entirely convinced Kendrick Lamar is being covertly funded and propped up by the CIA.
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 No.486544

Literally who?
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 No.486545

>>486544
when you take pride in how out-of-touch you are

how's the CPUSA?
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 No.486546

>>486544
There was a rap beef, Kendrick Lamar vs Drake (also others vs Drake, but mainly Kendrick). It was a sensation and most people would say Kendrick won, but it turns out UMG is owned by a Zionist and stuff.
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 No.486547

>>486545
Sorry I don't pay attention to gangster rap, the genre invented to divide and rule poor black neighborhoods.
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 No.486550

>>486545
<insane conspiracy theory about two celebrities being used to distract people
>who?
<ugh you're so out of touch


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 No.486538[Reply]

From AJ yesterday:
The first cross-border strike inside Afghanistan since March came after a spate of attacks by the Pakistan Taliban.
Islamabad, Pakistan – The Pakistani military conducted air raids in neighbouring Afghanistan late on Tuesday night, targeting hideouts of the Pakistan Taliban, known by the acronym TTP, armed group in Paktika province, according to security officials.

While no official statement was issued by Pakistan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs or military media wing, the Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), sources confirmed to Al Jazeera that the attacks took place in the Barmal district of Afghanistan, near Pakistan’s South Waziristan tribal district in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

The interim Afghan government, ruled by the Taliban, also confirmed the attacks but insisted that civilians had been targeted. The Taliban spokesperson’s office told Al Jazeera that at least 46 people, including women and children, were among those killed in air raids.

“The Pakistani side should understand that such arbitrary measures are not a solution to any problem,” Enayatullah Khowarazami, spokesperson for Afghanistan’s Defence Ministry, wrote on social media platform X. “The Islamic Emirate will not leave this cowardly act unanswered and considers the defense of its territory an inalienable right,” he added, referring to Afghanistan by the name given by the Taliban government.

The air raids, which were conducted for the second time this year, came just hours after Pakistan’s special representative for Afghanistan, Mohammad Sadi, met interim Afghan Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Kabul.

“Met Foreign Minister Amir Khan Muttaqi today. Held wide-ranging discussions. Agreed to work together to further strengthen bilateral cooperation and promote peace and progress in the region,” Sadiq posted on X.

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 No.486539

There's a Pakistan Taliban?
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 No.486549

>>486538
>What's gonna happen, guys?
Dunno, but it looks like more countries getting drawn into the regional clusterfuck.

If I'm not mistaken Pakistan has illegitimately imprisoned a very popular socdem politician (Khan something or other), and that is becoming politically untenable with masses of people protesting for his release. Maybe they are trying to stir a conflict to distract from that.


 No.486510[Reply]

Merry Christmas to all retards on leftychan. net and Merry Chistmas to every retard on this planet
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 No.486524

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Merry Christmas to Retard Occupants of Interplanetary Craft
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 No.486529

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KKKrackanap the Sandy KKKlaws!
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 No.486530

>>486522
"Happy new year!" is written there though.
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 No.486532

>>486530
Yeah, but Russian traditions on New Year's Eve and western Christmas traditions are very similar (Christmas tree and presents), so I didn't see it as a big contradiction when I posted it.
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 No.486534

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 No.485845[Reply]

What's the point of this site? Why don't you post on leftypol.org which is the real leftypol?
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 No.486430

>>486421
This is a partially correct analysis.

However you ought not conceptualize the state as a unitary thing. There are lots of different parts to a state. The same thing applies to the law.

Modern states are suppressing clan-society bullshit like honor-killings and blood-feuds. That's a good thing.
But modern states are also getting infiltrated by mafia organizations that are trying to legitimize their thuggery and make the police do what used to be done by goon-squats.

Think about copyright and patents in the context of the health-care industry. It's basically an ideological veneer for big and powerful mafia organizations declaring healing with medicines as their turf and taking a cut. But unlike street-mafias they're not fighting these turf wars with gang-violence, they are manipulating the state apparatus to do it with state violence.

The street-mafias also manipulate the state, usually via bribery and blackmail directed against low level functionaries of the state. So even in the embryonic stages the pattern already exists in some forms. Many small time mafiosi have aspirations to "go legit" and that can mean conforming their mafia-activities to what is considered "reputable business practices". However quite often they don't mean to change what they do, they mean to change the state and the law. They seek to conform the conception of legitimacy not their activities. When they succeed you get these absurd situations where what used to be a crime is redefined into enforcement.

When for example a street-gang raids and destroys the make-shift laboratory for biologically active substances of a rival gang, we call that gang-wars and talk about crime-syndicates. But when the exact same turf-struggle happens on a larger scale all the words change. It will get described as pharmaceutical company suing one another one for patent infringement and it's law enforcement shutting down the production of infringerínos or what ever the "correct" jargon is.

Obviously many people are harmed and killed because of what those gangs do and that's why it's considered organized crime. But the body count of the corporate sector dwarfs that, but somehow they're not considered organized crime. The difference is a mafia that got big enough to manipulate the state and the law.
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 No.486431

>>486430
posted this in the wrong thread
mods please delete post
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 No.486440

>>486431
You can delete your own post (usually)
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 No.486509

Over time, the likehood of an independent online community being taken over by malignant autistics approaches 100%.

I assume that is what happened on .org. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was a schism and the better mods moved here.
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 No.486515

>>486509
It wasn't like that before the wave of toxic identitarianism.

The identitarian subject processes all information with a specific filter that asks:
<Against me or with me ?

It's probably possible to cultivate a culture of maintaining some intellectual distance.


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 No.486494[Reply]

The US federal government and health insurers aren't the main ones charging most citizens extortionate prices for basic life necessities, including healthcare and housing.

Those charging such are simply… those who charge such: specifically banks, pharma companies, average land/homeowners, doctors etc

When you get a bill for a $400 doctor visit where no tests or equipment was used, that's not insurance's fault, that's the doctors fault for charging you $400 for 15 minutes.

That's a near universal practice, and every point of sale actor tries to point the finger at another as the source of extortionate prices. But no one is forcing them to buy expensive malpractice insurance, lavish offices, inflated tech service contracts, unnecessary equipment purchase, and their own lavish lifestyles.

The issue is, any of them could simply… not charge extortionate prices.

Private health insurance is a joke, but they aren't the root issue. The root issue are the doctors, landowners, homeowners, pharmaceutical companies, and other point of sale groups and individuals charging extortionate prices.

I'm not saying this to point to individuals as the issue, but rather the class those who provide or own expensive life necessities. There's a reason early unions mostly disallowed doctors from joining.

Also, on a tangent, most pushing for "universal health insurance" aren't really pushing for insurance, but a free, or near free private health care, paid by the government. Private insurance usually means you pay out the ass in the case of an unlikely event, it's was never meant to be a safety net for routine care.
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 No.486496

>>486494
>Also, on a tangent, most pushing for "universal health insurance" aren't really pushing for insurance, but a free, or near free private health care, paid by the government.
This isn't really accurate - the difference between what the US has now and Medicare-for-All is that the current model is largely a private insurance scheme and the proposed changes involve expanding the one major public insurance sector to cover everyone.

>Private health insurance is a joke, but they aren't the root issue. The root issue are the doctors, landowners, homeowners, pharmaceutical companies, and other point of sale groups and individuals charging extortionate prices.

The difference between the doctors and the insurers is that the doctors do, at least, provide a material service. It's true that the pharma cartels need thwacking, but the insurance cartels are much more difficult to redeem in popular consciousness than doctors because the insurance cartels are as extortionate but largely only serve as middlemen.
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 No.486498

>>486496
Another difference between doctors and insurance is that doctors are the ones charging the extortionate prices for their care because they set their prices

you didn't get my other point, insurance means paying out the ass to cover an unlikely or rare event. the "insurance for all" proposals, aren't really insurance because they propose more or less free care due to the size and frequency of the subsidies
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 No.486499

>The issue is, any of them could simply… not charge extortionate prices.
As owners they have the GOD-GIVEN RIGHT of charging you whatever they want and if you don't like it you can go to a competitor g-d bless.

Or so that's the logic that free market zealots use. The reality is that this tendency will create friction (at best) with a big number people until something gives. But I think everybody here knows that.
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 No.486505

Doc: ok Bobby your surgery is over, it took about an hour, are you feeling ok?

Bobby: yes.

Doc: That'll be $300,000

Bobby: And the health insurers won't pay for it! Those damn dirty bastards. I hate the insurers so much, they're practically villains.
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 No.486514

I think OP is conflating 2 different things.

The CEOs of insurance companies are in the hot-seat because they made it a "business-model" to deny health-care. It's not reasonable to deny health-care to people. The acceptable debate-spectrum is entirely contained in how to provide health-care, not whether to provide health-care.

You're looking a bit like you're trying to deflect attention to get CEOs out of the hotseat.

I don't know enough about health-care to speak intelligently about cost efficiency. But from the point of view of a layperson it seems that this discussion starts with funding for medical research, there seems to be a funding bias towards perpetual treatments rather than one time cures.


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 No.484694[Reply]

>One of the most significant pieces of evidence is the testimony of Otto Ernst Remer. In a 1997 interview, Remer admitted that he had received Soviet backing during his time in the party. Remer stated that he had met with KGB officials in East Berlin and had received financial and logistical support from the Soviet Union.[13] In addition to Remer's testimony, there are other sources of evidence that support the claim that the Soviet Union supported the SRP. For example, a 1953 KGB memo outlines the agency's efforts to cultivate and support right-wing extremist groups in Germany, including the SRP.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Reich_Party


What the hell guys, I thought the USSR was heckin anti-fascist???? What gives???
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 No.486458

Trotsky keeps getting vindicated
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 No.486466

>>486458
Was Trotsky vindicated when he wanted to retain a rump Russian state with him as leader by giving concessions to Nazi Germany?
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 No.486479

Did OP forget all of the ideologies Mussolini was inspired by?
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 No.486488

>>486479
anarchism? Syndicalism? Which other brands of liberalism
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 No.486489

>>486466
My brother, St*lin literally made a pact with H*tler and lead a bureaucratic counter revolution.


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