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News 09/19/23 Alternate Timeline News Anon 2023-09-21 (Thu) 07:37:39 No.474269 [Reply]

Azerbaijani forces strike Armenian-controlled Karabakh, raising risk of new Caucasus war
Azerbaijan sent troops backed by artillery strikes into Armenian-controlled Nagorno-Karabakh on Tuesday in an attempt to bring the breakaway region to heel by force, raising the threat of a new war with its neighbour Armenia. Karabakh is internationally recognised as Azerbaijani territory but part of it is run by separatist Armenian authorities who say the area is their ancestral homeland. The South Caucasus region has been at the centre of two wars - the latest in 2020 - since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union.
https://www.reuters.com/world/azerbaijan-says-six-its-citizens-were-killed-by-land-mines-karabakh-2023-09-19/

Communications cut to flood-hit Libya city after protests
Communications were severed Tuesday to the flood-hit Libyan city of Derna and journalists were asked to leave, a day after hundreds protested against authorities they blamed for the thousands of deaths. A tsunami-sized flash flood broke through two ageing river dams upstream from the city on the night of September 10 and razed entire neighbourhoods, sweeping untold thousands into the Mediterranean Sea.
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2023/09/communications-cut-flood-hit-libya-city-after-protests

Tunisian authorities evict hundreds of undocumented sub-Saharan migrants
TUNISIAN authorities carried out a mass eviction on Monday of hundreds of undocumented sub-Saharan African immigrants from the improvised camps they occupied in the south of the country. The evictions from the camps in the city of Sfax continues what observers have called a campaign of repression by Tunisian authorities against the migrants. Authorities dispersed the migrants into small groups and forced them to seek shelter in small rural towns, according to statements by local activists. Tunisia has been the scene of a rising number of racist attacks on migrants since last February when President Kais Saied accused undocumented immigrants of causing a wave of crime and of wanting to change the Arab ethnic identity of Tunisia.
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Anonymous 2023-09-22 (Fri) 10:36:48 No.474438

>>474437
Yes ofc you're right. They are still a thing and do still exist but to the degree that they have sway over the economic conditions of our time is questionable. This is noticable in the sheer powerlessness held by the working class in many first world countries. Before industry was shipped over seas huge powerful strikes were pretty common place but now even to their credit unions are largely organized around service industry jobs and the thing about service is it's the bottom of the economic hierarchy. The nature of the work itself makes the labor easily replaceable and expendable. Walmart has the power to simply close up shop at the meter threat of Union activity. This is largely due to the fact that production is the most powerful element of the economy and that has been eroded over time and replaced with service and finance which are easily replaceable.

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Anonymous 2023-09-22 (Fri) 13:57:01 No.474440

>>474413
>There's millions of bullshit jobs
ok if a job is bullshit it might not be possible to calculate a SNLT, but then you have to ask why one wouldn't give people jobs where they perform useful tasks instead.

>when prices were really high on our products they expected us to produce more and faster
>you can increase or decrease the amount of time it takes to make product.
you average out all the fluctuations for SNLT calculations.

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Anonymous 2023-09-22 (Fri) 14:07:09 No.474441

>>474438

It's down mostly to union busting and neoliberal policies. In an economy where a certain amount of unemployment was not portrayed as desirable, and where keeping domestic production up was seen as more valuable than lowering costs of production (with lower labor foreign standards), service workers would not be so easy to replace - in fact, we're slowly seeing it change so that service workers in some regions have a little bit more leverage because it is becoming more difficult to find people to fill those positions for such low pay. Decisions were made at the political level to limit worker power and remove checks on corporate power.

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Anonymous 2023-09-22 (Fri) 22:25:40 No.474447

>>474441
No I disagree with thism this is an idealistic take. First and foremost the mechanism of capitalism will always trend towards the maximization of profits. This is why capitalists lobbies the government for the last70 years in order to ship jobs over seas and bust unions in the first place. That is why labor has been sent over seas and automated in the first place. And sure service workers can deff be organized and increase the value of their labor through collective bargaining but at the end of the day it doesn't take any real skill to put boxes on a shelf. Fast for work I can agree is slightly more skilled but even still. At the end of the day there's billions of hungry wanting people waiting to take your place. The service Industry is and will always be the weakest rung of the economy and they know this this is why they have gutted agriculture through technology and decimated industry through exporting it over seas.

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Anonymous 2023-09-23 (Sat) 00:31:21 No.474463

>>474447
I'm sorry I'm typing like a fucking retard too.
I'm at work still so I can only use my fuckin phone.

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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 13:57:36 No.473597 [Reply]

How do you apply Marxist theory? Is it even feasible or possible in today's climate?

And if it isn't practicable, isn't theory without application shit (Mao's words, not mine)?

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 19:34:53 No.474082

>>474069
Painting fascism in red is still fascism.

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 19:36:57 No.474083

>>474069
No, it's common in leftcom theory
https://www.marxists.org/archive/ruhle/1939/ruhle01.htm

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 19:51:03 No.474085

>>474074
>>474081
>>474082
cringe poster

>>474083
hm i didn't know there was overlap with leftcom-theory and neoliberal ideology.

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Anonymous 2023-09-20 (Wed) 01:51:09 No.474099

>>473830
This is why “leftism” is such a stupid deviation. Even Marxist “critical” of leftist tendencies fall into this pit of ideology,aesthetics and general politics. ironically if Marx and Engels were alive today they would think leftists are annoying and lame while they would exchange emails about some random fucking conservative economist or something who happens to have a material grasp on economic

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Anonymous 2023-09-21 (Thu) 03:06:46 No.474215

>>474099
Marx even thought the leftists of his time were lame and annoying.

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can face-filters be rehabilitated Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 20:45:59 No.474089 [Reply]

During the covid happening, wearing a particle-filter-mask was turned into a politically polarizing symbol of conformity. Most of the wearable particle-filter-gear was of the surgical-mask type which are also unpleasant to wear. These also only were 70% effective because they lack a proper air-seal for the skin-contact areas. Many people also didn't like that faces were partially obscured.

This has seriously degraded the perception of wearable filter-gear.

All the technical short-commings can be fixed, there are comfortable face-filters, that being transparent, do not mask parts of people's faces and have decent air-seals that make them very effective. If 80% of the population could be convinced to willingly wear those during flu-season, it might be possible to diminish the common-flue enough that most people wouldn't suffer any symptoms.

Can face filters be rehabilitated ?
Can people see these as particle filters that might free them from getting the sniffles and sneezies, instead of a political symbol ?

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 23:04:58 No.474097

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>>474095
>That ought to be a fixable flaw.
Well yeah, here's your fix.

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Anonymous 2023-09-20 (Wed) 00:21:52 No.474098

>>474097
A modified re-breather loop is actually not a bad idea.
You would not need CO2 scrubber material or an oxygen supply. You only need to make the loop out of a suitable gas-permeable materiel, that will equalize CO2 and oxygen concentrations with the outside air, via molecular exchange through the gas-permeable barrier. It's basically a filter that needs zero air-flow, because it can exploit Dalton’s Law.

<The Pressure of a Mixture of Gases: Dalton’s Law
<Unless they chemically react with each other, the individual gases in a mixture of gases do not affect each other’s pressure. Each individual gas in a mixture exerts the same pressure that it would exert if it was present alone in the container. The pressure exerted by each individual gas in a mixture is called its partial pressure .

Basically the air you breath out into the re-breather-loop only has around 16% oxygen left in it. The partial pressure for oxygen inside the re-breather-loop would be much lower than the outside air. Pressure equalization would draw in lots of oxygen-gas through the gas-permeable material. The same would happen for CO2 but in the other direction. Gas-permeability only needs holes large enough for molecules to fit through, viruses are huge compared to molecules.

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Anonymous 2023-09-20 (Wed) 04:24:09 No.474105

>>474091

As a non-science guy, why should I trust that instead of this?

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2119266119
>We resolve conflicting results regarding mask wearing against COVID-19. Most previous work focused on mask mandates; we study the effect of mask wearing directly. We find that population mask wearing notably reduced SARS-CoV-2 transmission (mean mask-wearing levels corresponding to a 19% decrease in R). We use the largest wearing survey (n = 20 million) and obtain our estimates from regions across six continents. >We account for nonpharmaceutical interventions and time spent in public, and quantify our uncertainty. Factors additional to mask mandates influenced the worldwide early uptake of mask wearing. Our analysis goes further than past work in the quality of wearing data–100 times the size with random sampling–geographical scope, a semimechanistic infection model, and the validation of our results.

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Anonymous 2023-09-20 (Wed) 05:01:15 No.474106

>>474105
Because the Cochraine review is a meta study of multiple randomized controlled trials, while that PNAS paper is an observational study based on self-reported data without any experimental design. Carefully controlled experimental design is more reliable at removing confounding variables than observational data.

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Anonymous 2023-09-20 (Wed) 06:09:26 No.474107

>>474106
I'm reading an article rn in which a guy claims that the Cochrane review included studies in which N95s were used "intermittently."
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/expert-slams-gold-standard-cochrane-review-mask-verdict/news-story/af7f698fefb0d4ea3e742a2fba3e06b3
>“The Conchrane review combined studies that were dissimilar — they were in different settings (healthcare and community) and measuring different outcomes (continuous use ofN95 vs intermittent),” she said.

If it was broad enough that mask use wasn't even required to be consistent, that seems like it might be too broad.

It also looks like Cochrane themselves have acknowledged the limits of their review:
https://www.cochrane.org/news/statement-physical-interventions-interrupt-or-reduce-spread-respiratory-viruses-review
>The review authors are clear on the limitations in the abstract: 'The high risk of bias in the trials, variation in outcome measurement, and relatively low adherence with the interventions during the studies hampers drawing firm conclusions.' Adherence in this context refers to the number of people who actually wore the provided masks when encouraged to do so as part of the intervention. For example, in the most heavily-weighted trial of interventions to promote community mask wearing, 42.3% of people in the intervention arm wore masks compared to 13.3% of those in the control arm.

This seems in line with the flaws the Australian critic pointed to…

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Socialist system of law? Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 09:14:19 No.474047 [Reply]

Hello, I hate leftoids.

Can someone explain to me why there are no marxists books on constitutionalism and the system of law in general? Countless books have been written about some irrelevant philosophycel wankings, but the only book that deals with the system of law, this fundamental concept of bourgeois society, is by Pashukanis, and by modern russkie constitutionalists, who analyze the soviet practice of law from their own positions, and who unironically vindicate Pashukanis's position that there could be no such thing as a "proletarian law", because the system of law in the Soviet Union was a fiction, a hollow imitation of the bourgeois institutions.

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 09:31:30 No.474048

>>474047
>the system of law in the Soviet Union was a fiction, a hollow imitation of the bourgeois institutions.
this also poses an interesting question from a histmat perspective of WHY there was an objective need to imitate those institutions? WHY the need for a decorative, formal, constitution? WHY the need for a complex hierarchy of legal norms completely removed from reality?

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Anonymous 2023-09-19 (Tue) 12:29:37 No.474051

you're a faggot

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Anonymous 2023-11-15 (Wed) 12:39:30 No.476740

>>474047
>Hello, I hate leftoids.
Basiert.

>>474048
>>the system of law in the Soviet Union was a fiction, a hollow imitation of the bourgeois institutions.
>WHY there was an objective need to imitate those institutions?
Because the ruling class wants to isolate itself from the other class(es) as much as possible, political system being the main obstacle between them.
Dang, really makes you think why would a commodity producing corporate-state want to ape the same procedures its commodity producing corporativist states partners in trade always did. Surely they weren't exchanging their collective experience in this regard.

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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 19:02:47 No.473633 [Reply]

>Is literally becoming petty bourgeois based?
>What about PMC?

It sucks working for other people, mostly because it's monotonous, you lack autonomy and anybsense that youre building something (alienation). Therefore, is it based to start a small business, do some sort of start up, or become a 'soloprenure.' Insofar, as revolution isn't on the table this week, is it a suitable and morally permissible personal alternative in the meantime.

What about something like PMC? Is it ok to become a social worker, teacher, marketer, graphic designer, security guard, or direct manager? It doesn't provide the same level of autonomy or freedom, but maybe that way I can make a difference and actually use my liberal arts degree and not be a barista my whole life.

How do these two options compare on different levels

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 18:19:53 No.473796

>>473794
The first essay in Mao's collected works is 'an analysis of classes in Chinese Society.' It's detailed an nuanced. He never says, 'lol, theyre just working class.'

Try again

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 18:21:27 No.473797

>>473736
>There's no such thing as a PMC.
We know that the managerial strata and the technical intelligentsia is a real thing. When the Soviet system was getting dissolved these people did not side with the proletariat.

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 18:28:51 No.473798

>>473794
>someone in transportation like a trucker or forklift driver wouldn't ally with the broader working class just because they don't produce surplus?
Are you sure they don't produce economic surplus ?
The production of a commodity tends to be spread over many factories that have transport in-between.

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 18:29:26 No.473799

>>473711
Exactly. This is literally the universal petty bourg experience

https://youtu.be/822KO8dPs0M?si=-XCAg7dM3gjJJ4Y3

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Anonymous 2023-11-15 (Wed) 11:11:09 No.476737

>>473663
>& managers who own or control their own means of production, but are not part of the capitalist class
So if you own your own means of production & participate in the economy then you are a kind of bourgeoisie but you're also not a capitalist @ the same time.
Ah, they must be the capitalist class of proletariat then.
Or they are still the capitalist class of bourgeoisie?
Both of which existed long before capitalism.

>simplysociology.cum
popsci is a tool of class ideology propaganda & all of its participants will be sent to reeducation mines in the Arctic, along with marxoids, their closest (& practically & also theorethically lobotomized) brethren.

>>473711
>becoming self employed… is a good escape away from the systems of capitalism
>when you start exploit yourself by yourself for serving the same economy it counts as an escape from the economy

>remaining a working class joe is more important due to the need to spread awareness and solidarity among the working class
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Anonymous 2023-09-10 (Sun) 06:01:18 No.473143 [Reply]

What can the left learn from 'compliance and behavior experts' (salesmen, marketers, recruiters, advertisers, etc)?

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Anonymous 2023-09-11 (Mon) 15:03:25 No.473188

>>473173
How has that worked out for you?

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Anonymous 2023-09-11 (Mon) 15:41:04 No.473192

>>473188
In marketing they see the consumer as the "enemy" they want to "wage information war-fare" against, and their goal is manipulating consumers to buy overpriced products with consumer-hostile features , like subscription scams that attack personal property, privacy-violating anti-features, non-standard-compliant design, modification/repair-hostile design , planned obsolescence, etc.

On the classical left we don't see the masses as the enemy. What are we supposed to do with those "emotion-manipulation-weapons"
Are we supposed to try to screw over the capitalist class, should we all turn into con-men that sell investor scams ?

Is your revolutionary strategy to trick the capitalists into abolishing their class-privilege ?
Can you explain how that's supposed to work in praxis ?

Usually socialists want a organized proletariat that gains the power to remake society to serve it's interests. How would we get from scamming capitalist to that ?

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 09:28:03 No.473772

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Lol. Far leftists are too dim witted to use info like pic related to their benefit. They'd rather pat themselves on the back for being above it all while constantly losing.

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 10:35:41 No.473773

>>473772
>during the COVID-19 outbreak of 2020

What's the next page say?

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 11:23:03 No.473775

>>473773
Basically, the most effective message to ensure cucks wear a cuckmask is showing them other cucks wearing a cuckmask.

This is probably why …they… are always trying to censor and cancel dissenting voices and opinions. Gotta keep up the appearance of social proof.

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sneaky Anonymous 2023-09-13 (Wed) 01:44:03 No.473287 [Reply]

It appears that the UK has arrested a parliamentary researcher and accused him of being a Chinese spy in order to manufacture consent for pressuring the current UK government to be more hostile towards China.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/uk-suspect-denies-being-chinese-spy-beijing-slams-claims-3762371
<The spying claims, first disclosed in The Sunday Times, are putting pressure on Sunak's government to toughen its policy on China as it seeks greater engagement with the Asian superpower.

I'm assuming Chinese spies are indeed trying to infiltrate the UK government and the reverse is also likely. That's to be expected from inter-state competition. But i don't believe that UK counter intelligence would make a public fuzz about uncovering a spy. If you catch a spy, you try to exploit the situation to feed you're opponent bogus information.

I wonder if that researcher was just some unlucky rando who got sacrificed for a political stunt, or whether they're purging that guy for political reasons. Like was he promoting a insufficiently hostile china stance or something ?

Any anons knowledgeable about the UK, or care to speculate about the spy biz.

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Anonymous 2023-09-17 (Sun) 01:25:43 No.473732

>>473287
It's probably just MI5 trying to justify their ludicrous budget by arresting some innocent chink.

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Anonymous 2023-09-14 (Thu) 17:35:49 No.473432 [Reply]

Random Thoughts on Happiness and Unhappiness

>quick aside about pic related

why do …they… try to gaslight westerners into believing that they are so happy. it's obvious that's not the case. Opioid and antidepressant use has been on the rise. along with suicides, homelessness, etc.

Is it part of a larger fake and ghey Truman Show-esque programming - one which goes in all sort of directions (Trump tried to become fashist dictator blah blah, look, aliens!, etc).

<what makes America such a spiritual shithole and terrible place to live, especially if you're in a city?

1) not just capitalism

The midwits will say something about capitalism in general. This dull and unoriginal belief ignores the obvious fact that every country is capitalist, and capitalism is fairly old with respect to conditions today

They then point to fake and ghey stats similar to pic related, citing countries like Norway and New Zealand. They mention social programs. These same countries are also pointed to by white supremacists as examples of countries where ethnically homogeneous white states have better outcomes for individuals. Ironically (?), Israel - a social imperialist settler state - also ranks high on expertly supplied stats comparing happiness globally.
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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 04:08:18 No.473578

>>473567
To expand, it’s literally the exact same notion as Christian nations portraying themselves as enlightened and “civilized” despite the barbaric and backwards conditions of feudalism, namely tsarist Russia. Nations who did not engage in Christianity were deemed savage or “in development”. It is exactly the same case with psychology today. Any nation that does not base itself on the theories of western psychology is considered not progressive enough or just flat out totalitarian.institutions for social peace have always existed I feel like, and sorel was right that the state has refined it into something that directly benefits the classes, when prior to the state it was more integral to maintaining a reality. I feel like this needs to be a huge aspect that needs to be added in Marxism.

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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 04:59:44 No.473580

>>473578
>sorel
who ?

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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 05:10:16 No.473581

>>473580
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Sorel

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Anonymous 2023-09-16 (Sat) 19:20:08 No.473635

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>>473578
Based reply

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Anonymous 2023-11-15 (Wed) 09:24:08 No.476736

>>473567
>Psychology is a bourgeoisie ideology
>muh kike physics
>science is the tool of the kike world ordnung to dunk on me
>psychos the rapists who directly challenged the present status quo from the position of anti-cumformistic human psychology must be planted opposition from the jewish glowing uyghurs
Leftardoids (left capitalists with welfare characteristics) just can't stop to amaze!

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U.S. soldier facing disciplinary action flees into North Korea Anonymous 2023-07-18 (Tue) 18:55:53 No.471158 [Reply]

U.S. soldier facing disciplinary action flees into North Korea

It said a person who said they witnessed the event and was part of the same tour group told CBS News they had just visited one of the buildings at the site when "this man gives out a loud 'ha ha ha,' and just runs in between some buildings."

CBS cited the witness as saying that military personnel reacted within seconds to the man's actions, but initially, there was confusion.

"I thought it was a bad joke at first, but when he didn't come back, I realized it wasn't a joke, and then everybody reacted and things got crazy," it quoted the witness as saying.

Recent news happening. Is he a real uygha?

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Anonymous 2023-07-27 (Thu) 07:46:45 No.471439

Honestly I would do the same and try to get sent to china and live the rest of my life there

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Anonymous 2023-07-27 (Thu) 20:11:12 No.471444

>>471161
Mein gott

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