/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>483162
>that's the economic system socialists try to build
No it's not. Under socialism the product of my labor doesn't belong to me it belongs to Bob because Bob "needs" it more than me. It's a good deal if you're Bob which is why socialism only attracts losers who want to leech from others.

>but it's not like that now
It's not like that now because of taxes. If you are self employed then all the product of your labor belongs to you except what the state steals.

>you mean like the bail-outs for wallstreet
Yes. Free stuff at the top to keep the rich rich and free stuff at the bottom to keep the plebs voting and the middle class has to pay for it all. It's not your ideal version of socialism but it is a type of socialism.

>Those were capitalists not socialists
Nope. The government is the one giving the bailouts and when the government does stuff that's socialism. In a free market when banks go broke they go broke and if the CEOs owes money to the people then we throw they/them out of a helicopter.

>Can't have a working theory of economics without that
You are deliberately evading the question
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>>483170
>See picrel.
I distinctly remember Blair abolishing hereditary peers, stuffing the house of lords with his own people and gratuitously banning fox hunting just to wind up the Tories but sure everyone you don't like is a secret Tory.

>Corporate deregulation
You're saying there are fewer regulations now than 40 years ago? Calling a big old bullshit on that one. The point of regulations is for corporations to use the government to screw over competitors so of course they are only going to pile up.

>outsourcing
<refuse to work
<cry when jobs move overseas
Also this has nothing to do with government policy.

>union busting
Unions are the ones who destroyed your economy in the first place but ok.
Unions only exist because the government protects them anyway.
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>>483179
Work in a primitive society, like ancient hunter gatherers, work is directly social, all the work is for survival. In a more complex society that has better tools, not all of the work goes into survival, that is what becomes surplus. In capitalism this surplus is mostly captured by capitalists as profits. The state also gets some of the surplus via taxes or state-run enterprises. A big chunk of the surplus that the states gets flows to capitalists, like with wall-street bailouts and arms spending. Only a small part is going into public well-fare. And keep in mind that most well-fare recipients only need it because capitalism denies employment to a section of society, because they want to have a reserve army of labor on stand-by. So try not to be a worm that kicks down.

You're right that socialism isn't 100% efficient either, it'll have overhead as well, but you'll get a much bigger part of your surplus back than in capitalism. Btw socialism isn't synonymous with when the government does stuff

The relations in capitalism aren't really voluntary because You can't choose another economic system.

Given how much damage the financial crash caused, you're idea with aviation based disciplinary measures, is understandable. However I would like an economic system where the accounting and transactions system is stable and doesn't operate like a casino.

Nazis used gas as a weapon of mass destruction in the extermination camps. They didn't use it on the battle field against advanced military because it was obsolete. That is not a display of morality it's just basic grasp of military tactics. The use of chemical weapons in later wars was just stupid, it doesn't prove effectiveness.

The Soviets failed to ensure food security and that led to starvation, the narrative that it was done on purpose, was propaganda by the Nazis that was later re-used in the cold-war. It's wrong please stop repeating this.

Some of Mao's polices were indeed retarded and backfired catastrophically, however China did industrialize under Mao. Live expectancy doubled. And yes most of China's early woes can be attributed to the decade of colonial subjugation, the Communists inherited a huge mess. China's introduction of market elements into it's economy are indeed responsible for a chunk of China's economic rise. However you also Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>483182
>outsourcing
<refuse to pay decent wages
<cry when the low wage periphery uses the outsourced industrial power to dismantles your empire

>The only reason a government would burn votes like this is because they are broke
They're broke because they blew it on pointless militaristic schemes.

Again?

And how come a government/president doesn't have control over its military?

>>482488
>Again?
Might just be a flash in the pan. Telesur says it's already "neutralized"

https://twitter.com/BTnewsroom/status/1806088019549557005
Pro-coup troops chased out by protestors.

>>482501
Yeah the hole thing was basically a reminder to the MAS coalition that they have a common enemy.

Interesting TrueAnon episode on the coup attempt.

If someone says "Eugene, you're an American hypocrite" - I don't profit from any further enclosure of Indian land, and what was done was done. America has a lot of questions to ask itself if it is to be a "thing" in the future. But, those questions won't be asked. Eugenics won. This is the world eugenics creates. So, I think only about that, and I will work with anyone who will kill eugenist filth.

Amazing read Eugene, after you finish your work here, I would like you to reconsider seeking a Phd or Masters at Cambridge.

Also publish on demand is a thing, I would very much like to read your work in hard copy.

If you need help typesetting, which tbh fam I reckon you could do yourself; We can help.

>>483102
I know how to format it to look "professional" or something close to it. Just a matter of obtaining materials to make the hard copy.
I have most of Book 3 finished but want to edit it for clarity, to make it clearer what I'm referring to. It looks like "rant at highest volume", which it will be since Books 4 and 5 tone down the "doom is nigh". It comes off as doomer because I'm writing about concepts which are basically trans-historical - that is, what it means to speak of the concept of the political and economic, which are rather grody if they are distilled to their essential characteristics, how we speak of them. I really need to make the point that you won't find answers to the political within the political itself, especially formulations of it written by aristocracy - written traditionally by religion and for the purposes religion serves. Religion itself gives some of the answers of where to look, since no religion is a "total system" in that sense, and I'm opposed to "total systems" as an explanation of anything useful for us. The only total system that is relevant for me is the world itself, and even there, the world is not a "system" in that sense.

I have a supplemental I was writing but it needs to be edited, since I want to avoid "rant mode" and clarify what I wrote in the first book about the concept of systems, and how this concept could be worked with in the future. My main goal there is to demonstrate how a systems thought could be reconstructed from simple components, rather than reliant on pedagogy to assert a fixed system in minds that aren't able to defend themselves against it. My more long-term hope would be to write something accessible to a young reader, so they can do something to guard against the poison of education and we might have far less of this toxicity. I believe this will happen without me doing anything out of necessity, but the fear is very strong now and there is something very real to fear. If there is nothing but "the system" that we're getting - if what they did to us in the 1990s is allowed to continue but worse when the brats around me are the elders - it will be terrible to live through that. That whole thing was set up so that the favored would have their private and special education and everyone else will get nothing but "retard! retard!" shouted at them from cradle to grave. Since it's not Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Moved to >>>/leftypol_archive/22975.

I assure you I suffer no mental , nor psychological disorders . But you on the other hand might be . Hating your own skin , your own kind , your own tribe just because they made fun of your head containing 2 brains mass . Such a pity . I'm at least non less , in constant becoming into what the cosmos will be . While no futur for you or the likes of you have anything to partake in . I was actually looking for a clue about this and I found it . So humble yourself and come close or whatever dude . This comment is for the writer of that first text. Not for any newbies here .

I don't mean offense 😅 anyway . I'm your fan your work throughout the history is fascinating. If anything is happening in reality it always has it's causal reasons so anyway life is life and it is what it is . Please do accept my friendship invitation on telegram . Xoxo . If I'm redpilled schizophrenic it'd be fun talking to me 😉

Another day another conspiracy theorist gone completely mad . How the fuck you can control 8 billions of breeding people like how do you control each individual's choices and thoughts

>>482841
silence those people who keep speaking about "diversity is beautiful", "inner beauty!", and "non-whites are beautiful too!". we will do the breeding program after a red victory, then we can do the program without much of a hurdle. because in truth, actual victory is achieved when we can steamroll those delusional "diversity"-people.

>>483065
You need a cute brown girl (or boy idc) to blow your pent-up load into. Doctor's orders to cure your eugenicist brain-rot.

China is now getting involved, they brokered a reconciliation between fatah an hamas. Something along the lines of uniting all the Palestinians as a prelude to establishing Palestinian-statehood.

They managed to get the Iranians and the Saudis to bury the war-hatchet. Given how deep that conflict went, they must have used especially potent diplomacy to make that happen. With that in mind I'm wondering whether this is a sign that shit will get done now, or whether this is just more declarative non-happenings.

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=X2rTINHPT9g

New thread: >>483169

>>483013
Defect or not, conceptually a "third gender" is nonsensical. It's funny how "third genders" which are very clearly relitigations of male and female sexual roles to essentialize behavior, are considered free standing forms. They are defined entirely by compliance with the roles of males and females, exaggerated and fused with psychology and personality. That was always a test of the eugenic creed and compliance with it, and with the method of internalizing and torture-programming and pornification.

Same with Intersex - it is always understood as malformed male or female traits. "Gender" conceptually is an essentialist view of sex, while "biological sex" was always understood to refer to function - the bodies of males and females always orient around the functions of hormonal development and the function of reproduction. But, this thinking contradicts the eugenist ideology about natural selection, where "nothing really changes". By their own ideological thinking, the only way evolution could work is through degradation - nothing new could be possible except by "freak random chance". This was always used to justify a hereditary aristocracy, which always believed it was a distinct race from "base humanity".

Since there are abnormalities among marked males and females of "wrongsex", it's not like the sexes are ideal forms or "hardcoded structures", and this hasn't been a problem for anyone with common sense about the body. It doesn't mean that there is a "spectrum of sex". We know what a penis does and weren't not as retarded as the ruling ideas require us to be.

And like I said, "intersex" conditions are both from early development (and never from hereditary defect since everyone who reproduces has to be a viable male/female, so there are no "intersex parents"), and from damage where someone becomes a eunuch or female equivalent. Guess what else has been pushed hard - sterilization and various forms of outright castration of males and females. That's what birth control is - chemical castration.

>>483011
>Males inseminate the females, females can carry children.

Except there's more than this in nature, and more than this in human sexuality as well.

>Most intersex people hate this ideological shit by the way.

It's not strictly ideological, and there are plenty of intersex people who've campaigned for recognition.

>>483013
Based on what exactly?
Saying it's sexual variation is way more objective than trying to decide on whether or not it's a defect, which is a pretty meaningless value judgment without any absolute material basis. To say someone has genitals which do not conform entirely to categories of male & female is objective and requires no ideology; to say it's a defect is subjective, and requires ideology.

>>483014
>Defect or not, conceptually a "third gender" is nonsensical.
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>>482758
I think he'll be open to restoring relations with the US. Although not at the expense of Iran's relations with Russia or China. He'll likely pursue an open foreign policy, but only to the extend it excludes foreign impositions. Basically this is an offer towards the US to choose economically beneficial relations rather than block-confrontation.

Everybody in Iran sees Israel the way Europeans saw Nazi Germany at the end of ww2. Evil and weakened. Basically Israel either gives up its malevolent comportment in the region or it chooses to self destruct with a Lebanon war. In the latter event, Iran would emerge as the uncontested regional hegemon. Israel doesn't have the leverage to get concessions from Iran.

Iran has all the components for building nukes, they're offering to remain a non-nuclear power as long as Israel doesn't threaten them with nukes.

From the perspective of the west this is the best deal we'll get. And the price is exceptionally cheap: bully Israel to turn down the belligerency-knob.

The WSWs take:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/07/08/zvxm-j08.html
(I'm neutral on it)

Didn't Gaddafi increasingly demilitarize toward the end of his life? We saw what happened to Libya.

>>482890
>Didn't Gaddafi increasingly demilitarize toward the end of his life?
Qaddafi gave up on Libya's nuclear weapons program. And that likely did shorten his life.

The golden path would have been to max the pursuit of a Pan African Union, and make Libya the center of an African block, that played all the other power off each other. He'd have gotten nuke-technology and imported industrial development out of that.

>>482753
I guess the correct way to handle something like this was to let other people discover your art and let word of mouth do the work. At least assuming you got artistic talent and skill, that'll happen naturally. I may be wrong but the culture of graffiti artisans has always been about avoiding personal fame and not tell anybody. Graffiti-culture developed before the internet and it was a sort of a local artistic exchange.

If your main goal is to put stuff on the internet you can just use plywood as a canvas. You can remove that after you're done taking pictures.

If you really want to irk Zionists, you should jump through all the necessary bureaucratic hoops to get the official stamp of approval for displaying your artworks. That'll make it really hard for them to have your stuff removed. And they might even fail all-together and your stuff will stay up.

>>482753
That's a good question.
You could have a friend register a website for you in their name. That would work, and it would be more anonymous than registering it yourself. I think there are ways to technically register websites anonymously, too, but that seems to be pretty rare, and I'm not sure how.

With instagram… you could use a friend's phone or perhaps get a burner phone without your name on it. It's been a bit since I've bought a phone, I'm not sure how you'd do that. It does really suck that many big social media sites, like instagram, require that sort of info, now. I remember when none of them did. It's kinda classist, frankly.

>>482753
In the meantime you can post some of your work here over Tor or I2P, those are both technologies that hide your IP address from the website. If you are careful and remove Exif data from your pictures that's the most anonymous you can be with current technology.

first person is germanic. second person is not. case closed

>>482736
>What about actual tanks?
Maybe you don't grasp the communist mindset with regards to industrial warfare.
The main unit is a battle factory, what you call a tank is a component.
Designing a tank-component has as priority:
crew survive-ability,
ease of production,
combat cost efficiency,
repair-ability, recyclability and interoperability with other components or modularity

It would look like any other industrial component optimized by statistics, bereft of aesthetics. The only concession to sentiment is making it fun to operate, so that tank crews like training on it.

These days funding tends to go towards expensive stylish-gadget-tanks, as self contained units, and the design priority is making profits for the arms-industry. This is almost diametrically opposed to the above.

>Go on Hexbear.net
>First picrel is the second post on the front page
>Hexbear goes down for a bit so they make second picrel on Lemmygrad which makes it to the front page too

But how could trans be one of the MOST TALKED ABOUT THINGS? Why is it SO IMPORTANT?

Will transhumanism

<help unify the working class
<help stop the climate crisis
<help stop wars
<help me get a job or lower my rent?

I'm not shitting on trans people, be whatever you wanna be but if leftists want to win a class war they are going to have to justify spending that much time talking about sex, gender and race for that matter.

>>482692
Yeah the left should be laser focused on class, but try telling that to the idpol brains that make up most of the modern "left".

>>482746
>Leftists are middle class degens not interested in advancing the interests of working people
Always been and always will be

>>482672
>I'd do nothing about the political situation, and would not consider it in any calculation.
Dumb.

>I haven't for a long time, because politics does not work to give people nice things like you seem to believe for these narratives to work.
I don't believe that.

>and they were destroyed by the avarice of the middle class and their desire to kick down to get ahead. You people did more to hurt me than those at the top, who are happy to let you be their hatchetmen.
Does the American middle class even exist?
Picrel. Which part is the middle class? This looks like two classes.

>>482674
🦀🗑️

>>482695
The middle class kept doing it to themselves, and weren't allowed to say no. They cling to some distinction to say "at least we're not retarded", and that's all they will have. You will own nothing - not less, nothing. That's always been the goal, and it's right in front of your face. Why does anyone pretend it is anything else?

That's why you faggots make me so sick.

>left
>right

stfu uygha, should take this chance and become king. it's every man for him self.

>>482739
Apes together stronk