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 No.471175[Reply]

Are there any radical environmentalist anti capitalist forums, threads, or private chats you know of?
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 No.471190

no, i'm not a member of the communist party, officer
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 No.471264

Radical as in?
Terrorism is bad pr.
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 No.471269

>>471264
>Terrorism is bad pr.
So is socialism.

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 No.471184[Reply]

Now that the dust has settled, we can conduct an analysis of this confrontation as a struggle involving various parasitic and degenerating elements of France. Individuals of Arab or African descent with the class interests of benefitting from the exploitation of the third world, left their imperialized nations to become part of the privileged labor aristocracy in the imperial core. They intended to benefit from the welfare state's remarkable social-fascist agreement working on neocolonialism, but now ironically find themselves in an untoward predicament, following the gradual proletarianization of this labor aristocracy due to the imperialist's setbacks across Syria, Mali, etc.
The emergence of this amalgamated fusion of lumpen and downwardly-mobile labor aristocracy has propelled them to the utmost of extremes, with their ambition being the destruction of imperialist France, because they aren't able to reap the promised rewards due to the setbacks rendering this social pact unsustainable. These "lumpen-aristocrats" are determined to dismantle all the institutions emblematic of this state, such as hospitals and police stations, and harbor a desire to harm the despised people of this nation. Therefore, it appears relevant to cite the teachings of Marx:
>The lumpenproletariat, this scum of the decaying elements of all classes, which establishes headquarters in all the big cities, is the worst of all possible allies. It is an absolutely venal, an absolutely brazen crew. If the French workers, in the course of the Revolution, inscribed on the houses: Mort aux voleurs! (Death to the thieves!) and even shot down many, they did it, not out of enthusiasm for property, but because they rightly considered it necessary to hold that band at arm’s length. Every leader of the workers who utilises these gutter-proletarians as guards or supports, proves himself by this action alone a traitor to the movement.

These riots obviously didn't hold any revolutionary character, as opposed to the claims made by the Trotskyite and socdem factions LFI, NPA, etc. However, I do perceive a possible opportunity for an authentic revolutionary movement somewhere down the line. Our paramount task should be to reveal the underlying cause of France's fragmentation. This situation demonstrated the absurd character of cosmopolitanism and imperialism, born out of capitalism, resulting in pervasive disorder within the exploited nations. It is contriPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.471189

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>>471187
>The working class in the imperial core has higher wages
Nope the wages in the imperial core are not high, the wages in the periphery are just low.

You can't pretend to be a Marxist or Socialist, and then attempt to manufacture consent for lowering the wages of workers, by saying their wages are high. Socialists never ever argue against the material interests of the workers. Not even indirectly by the way they frame reality.
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 No.471193

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kek

reminder that our russkie multipolarist """comrades""" bring up those riots as an example of the west destroying itself with """irresponsible""" immigration policies

reminded me of those nazoid pogroms of the immigrant markets in the 00s
how they said "Russkia is for russkies!" lol

Gods, don't you just LOVE multipolarism kek
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 No.471196

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>>471193
>our russkie
the imaginary Russian 5th column talk is at best paranoia, and at worst anti-democratic attacks against opposing view points.

>multipolarist
that are usually leftists that are opposed to imperialism and/or warmongering

>immigration policies
there are 2 groups of people that are opposed to immigration
The first one is people motivated by racism and/or xeno-phobia, that is not a valid motivation, and that has to be criticized. Fanning the flames of racialism is dividing and weakening the working class.

The second one is workers motivated by avoiding an increase in labor-competition from imported labor-power, that is a valid motivation. The working class always has an interest in keeping labor-power a scarce commodity. So in order to make immigration compatible with working class interests, the work-day has to be reduced in order to account for the influx of labor-power and prevent it from harming labor-power-scarcity.

You would be wrong to conflate all these disparate groups as the same. The only thing they might share in common is opposition the status quo in various areas. Unless you are motivated to uphold the status quo, you have little reason to stuff them into the same mental box.

You would also be wrong to attack criticism of the French state for cracking down on it's population, making a criticism is not the same as being a foreign agent. It has to be considered political persecution if opposing political views are attributed to an outside enemy.
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 No.471197

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>>471193
Rent free.
Do you really have to post this reddit-spaced drivel in every thread?
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 No.471207

>>471186
actually good post (op's)

 No.464825[Reply]

Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson are arguing that inflation is mainly caused by rent-seeking capital doing asset inflation. They are doing an economic policy that will cause a recession, and are doing this on purpose, a bad economy will increase unemployment, and that will harm the economic interests of workers.

So are recessions a type of class-war by capitalists against workers ?

If they do this, aren't they screwing them selves too?
In the present by letting China overtake the US economically even faster
And in the future through labor-supply shortages because recessions drive down labor birthrates.

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=ZhZbB0jjDTM
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 No.470606

>>470556
Price-gouging and monopoly markets are inefficiencies in the capitalist system, not economic drivers. They are the sort of thing that gets corrected during crises. They are certainly not creating inflation.
>>469980
>From the socialist perspective inflation can be solved simply by switching from money accounting to labor-time accounting.
That would not solve inflation right now, because fiat currency is already fluctuating around the equilibrium of the value of future labor-power. Using Marx's half-formed idea of labor vouchers would address the ancaps' complaint about the Fed printing too many dollars, but that is not the actual problem. The problem is that capital is not growing at the rate that it needs to to sustain itself long-term, and, after 2008, nobody with any control over investment is buying the myth that eternal growth is possible anymore.
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 No.470988

Colonialism or sovereignty?
How the global financial system traps countries in debt

<Political economists Radhika Desai, Michael Hudson, and Ann Pettifor discuss how the international financial system traps Global South countries in debt, reinforcing a neocolonial order.

https://inv.in.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=x13cSy8S8To

For those that would rather read
https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2023/07/11/colonialism-sovereignty-financial-system-debt/
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 No.470991

>>470988
>geopoliticaleconomy
maybe you should read some actual theory, nazoid? even 19th century writings would be better!

hudson especially is a fucking clown
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 No.471174

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 No.471182

A nice animation that explains inflation in 3 minutes

https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=24gfGRHpxpc

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 No.470041[Reply]

So apparently lesbians got demoted to "non-men" in the rad-woke caste hierarchy. Lesbians always were on the lowest rung, but it seems they are now getting the boot.

I wonder what's going on here ?
Are they just erasing Lesbians or are they erasing women altogether ?
What is the material basis for this ?
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 No.471152

>>471151
They were paid a lot of money to shill in the churches, and being good Nazis they knew to march when the neocons did their Nazi impression. No one actually believed there was a good reason to be there, and the rulers wanted you to know that America was being run into the ground. They let you know that and know that you couldn't do anything about it. There was no effort to sell the war to the people because the people were no longer relevant to anything that happened, even to the small extent they ever were.

I remember plenty of small-town churchgoers say the war was bullshit, and they heard from soldiers sent there that nothing about the war was real. It was all run by specops and CIA assholes to build torture facilities, and they let you know about the torture. They advertised it on television. It was so over-the-top that it made it clear this was a fascist country now.

It is a necessity of the fake left to believe nothing ever changes until their thought leaders have declared it so, and it only changes as needed. That is why the left is arrested in time, always religating the past. Anyone operating in the 21st century is purged and silenced. So eugenics marches on…
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 No.471153

>>471151
You can find a small portion of people who are always amenable to war and fascism, because that is their god and natural proclivity. Bush was banking heavily on them to make people go along with what he was doing, and by 2008 that failed. Both the war and the president had basically no approval with the people, seeing as the bottom fell out of the country so that Bush can try and make the millenarian prophecy xome true. There were a few at the time saying Bush was a maniac, and these were basically the old liberal order types.
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 No.471154

The fake left needs to believe in the story that they were the only anti-war voice and "knew the truth", and then jump in front with the same boilerplate stories that don't actually tell anything. It's all an op to keep the left retarded, because the left is politically irrelevant now. All that is necessary is to keep the retards in their pens while they're killed off, and that is what is happening now.

It's really sickening how the people lined up to be killed by eugenics are often those who internalize the Satanic religion the most.
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 No.471159

>>471154
still don't really believe that everyone was on it, but i guess that's really hard to even prove. i would have mostly seen true believers at the time but i also grew up in a sheltered environment. although, i've even seen true believers of the ukraine narrative.

>It is a necessity of the fake left to believe nothing ever changes until their thought leaders have declared it so, and it only changes as needed. That is why the left is arrested in time, always religating the past. Anyone operating in the 21st century is purged and silenced. So eugenics marches on…
agree with this though.
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 No.471162

>>471159
The propaganda works well on those who were children or young teens at the time of the Iraq War. Those old enough to fight in it knew it was bullshit. Literally no one bought the "we were in danger" story, and you were allowed to say Bush's story was full of shit. It was encouraged.
Why was that? Because mass support didn't matter, and the sense that democracy didn't matter was more valuable than any popular support for the present war. Fear and terror created an impression worth more for them than love.

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 No.471143[Reply]

So the EU will require that all battery operated gadgets need to have user-replaceable batteries by 2027. It's kinda sad that these days this is reason to congratulate law-makers for consumer-friendly and eco-friendly rules, since it used to be universal praxis that batteries and other wear-parts were replaceable not that long ago.

However there is another more interesting part about this, this is the beginning of what is called "circular economy" which is a horribly vague marketing name for a push towards aggressive resource recovery from waste-streams.

That means potentially the beginning of the end for the natural monopoly on resources, given the abundance of waste that has accumulated in the last 200 years. Resources might loose their monopoly-rent and prices might begin leaning towards the cost of production (labor + machine capital). Mass resource recovery from recycling will in the beginning be more expensive then mining but it will cap how much monopoly rent can be extracted from resources, and eventually as productivity enhancement from automation start coming through, the monopoly rents should get squeezed out entirely. At least this should be the case in resource-poor places.

I wonder what the wider economic effects will be ?

Is this unwarranted optimism ?
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 No.471155

I mean, before I even consider your question… I have questions of my own. Like, how effective, exactly, are our recycling methods now? How do we plan on recovering this stuff?
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 No.471156

>>471155
>recycling methods
>how effective
material recovery rates are pretty decent
Labor productivity is terrible, most recycling methods still involve people picking out bits from a trash-conveyor-belt.
Plenty of recycling methods are atrocious, for example in very poor countries people are made to burn electronic waste to recover metals
Some types of material recycling have fully automated separation processes tho.
There are huge gaping holes in recycling techniques, certain materials have not gotten any love in terms of somebody developing a recovery process.

You can use a high temperature electro plasma torch to heat up material until all molecular bonds dissolve and then separate out elements by molecular weight. Commercial machines that do this exist, but currently only do really small quantities. For industrial scales they need engineering investment to tag-on some thermal recovery systems to become reasonably energy efficient. The plasma recycler is best suited as a last stage in a recycling chain where it catches what previous less intensive recycling stages missed.
A industrial scale plasma recycler would be extremely potent technology that could be modified to extract and concentrate trace radioactive elements that are universally present in all stuff, so it will require nuclear inspections to make sure that it's not being abused for illicit fissionable material enrichment. Pretty much all technology that is sufficiently advanced is going to require this type of inspection, even in high tech botany there are gmo-plants designed for soil decontamination that carry a similar risk, so don't hold this against it.

As an industry the recycling sector is pretty underdeveloped, but that also means there is plenty of low hanging fruit.
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 No.471157

>>471155
One of the biggest issues I've heard is that recycling at best tends to break even in emissions and at worst can actually be less carbon efficient than just using raw material right out of the ground.

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 No.455247[Reply]

Opinions on the Unabomber and specially his manifesto
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 No.470970

>>470964
What exactly do you agree with him and what influences did he have on you? Because almost everything from him sounds like worthless ranting from some facebook boomer. I imagine there's better people to hear from if you just like living in the woods or think technology went to far, his hyper individualism and meme understanding of leftism and even fucking hating enviormentalists offers very little.
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 No.470972

>>470970
>What exactly do you agree with him and what influences did he have on you?
NTA, but his contempt towards academia and intellectuals in general.

His dismissal of marxism was not surprising considering all major marxists were academia fags. And he admitted as much.
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 No.470973

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>>470972
anon we have better examples than Mk-ACKzynski
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 No.471006

>>470972
>His dismissal of marxism was not surprising considering all major marxists were academia fags. And he admitted as much.
He targeted STEMcels and I'm not sure how left leaning those types of guys tend to be. In fact maybe he would've have a better and consistent ideology if he wasn't a STEMlord himself. Or if he wasn't MKUltra'd.
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 No.471013

>>470815
One criticism I heard of the Weatherman is that is was a bunch of white trustfund college kids stirring shit which just made the FBI feel more justified in brutalizing people actually trying to get shit done like the Black Panthers.
>Seattle Liberation Front exposed how the FBI would engage in false flags to discredit protest movements and this was one of the first instances where that information came to light in court
That I can respect though

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 No.450916[Reply]

ITT: We help each other in our dystopian quest to sell our worthiness as a good candidate to be exploited in this hellscape society

Tips, Career Advice what not
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 No.453542

>>453226
>I am creative director,started as a coypwriter
How'd you start as a copy-writer? I know I could write that bullshit.
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 No.469560

bump
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 No.469936

>ITT: We help each other in our dystopian quest to sell our worthiness as a good candidate to be exploited in this hellscape society
Why?
Is this some kind of reddit-style shill thread to convince people to join the system?
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 No.470959

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Does any anons have the sauce for the logo/1st image? think someone posted the archive/link of the possibly deleted youtube channel somewhere
Pls Halp
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 No.470971

>>469936
Not all of us can NEET freely

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 No.470916[Reply]

I'm thinking Was Lenin the last great Aryan king?

Considering he's buried in a Ziqqurat (stone kurgan)
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 No.470955

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He isn't buried, he's just sleeping.
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 No.470958

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Take the Aryan pill, anon. The Soviet Union was a Scythian empire.

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 No.466060[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

The more older I become the more I understand just how strong is my urge to murder other communists.

Almost every one of them is some kind of a sperg, an idealist, a dogmoid automaton, a lib, a nationalist, a culture warrior, a grifter, a socialite, I could go on and on.
I can't fucking stand you. Every time I talk to one I imagine him choking on his blood, and this image gives me a relief.

First thing that triggers me immensely is the obsession with philosophy. Every time some idealist sperg mentions dialectics to me it takes me titanic effort to not pick up a chair and bash their head into the nearest wall with it.
Seriously, it got so bad that I sometimes daydream about choking Engels and Hegel with a stupid smile on my face.
I'm now convinced that there can not be such thing as a proletarian philosophy. Philosophy is a mind poison of the ruling classes, always has been, and it poisoned the minds of the leaders of the workers movement due to them all being intellectuals. All according to Marxism lol.
This obsession is so widespread that I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who came to Marxism through the study of history and not through some philosophic elitist drivel. It tells

The second thing is idealism (being an insufferable sperg is closely related). It seems like you just can't expect communists to be pragmatic in this day and age. It's like they are stuck between the Scylla of maximalism and the Charybdis of defeatism. It's either "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!" or "capitalism is actually socialism because they say so". It seems like communists don't have the patience or the mental capacity to just keep fucking grinding to their aims, slowly and methodically, using everyone and everything they can, and patiently waiting for their moment. No, they just NEED to sperg out and express their very important opinion (that 10 out of 10 times is some banal idealism or empty populist platitudes) on every little matter!
At moments like this it usually takes me two to three cigarettes to calm down.

And as we touched on it already, lets discuss the third thing - cheap populism. It is so widespread that I got in more fights over populist rhetoric than over any other thing. It seems like every communist takes his audience for fucking 10-year old kids who can be manipulated by simple tricks. Hey, you know that I can SEE what you are doing? You know we're all adults here? Hey, look me in the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.470858

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>>470857
>what, you expect to lose a war against china without a draft lol?
fixed, also…..
>what, you expect to win a war against other states lol?
further fixed, the union is in all likelood gonna shit itself before that happens
>if you're not a literal cripple, all it takes is one law to make you eligible for a draft buddy
yea the 1960/70s really shits on the idea of draft even kicking in, having actual retards reinforce the ranks is gonna cause feddies to get more teddies, frendo
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 No.470873

I still haven't read a single word of this screeching
I hate this site but I prefer being surrounded by commie retards than the usual other kind of retards
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 No.470883

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>>470873
>I prefer being surrounded by retards than the retarded usual retards other kind of retards
dis u?
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 No.470885

>>470883
Yeah, me on the right
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 No.471915

>>466060
kneeggerpill faggot autistic infantile screeching
go back

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 No.470568[Reply]

I'm a trans girl, who lives in NL, which is generally considered gay friendly country. I'm not a dutch speaker, but everyone here speaks English, especially in IT. And still I can't get any employment. I don't have a BSc degree, but, AFAIK, BSc is not required for machine learning and I get rejected even from McDonalds type jobs. I also have schizotypal disorder. So I have to conclude I'm getting discriminated by employers due to my gender and mental issues. Why there is no affirmative action for trans girls? Black people at least can get employment inside of Black community, but there is no trans ghetto. Further more, I got kicked out of local LGBT spaces, like COC, due to refusing to accept and support children from AMAB life (cuz they make me dysphoric, and it is not my fault I had no puberty blockers and they got born) and threatening ministry of healthy with terrorism to get my HRT meds (NL has aggressive HRT gatekeeping policies). Other trans believe I'm dangerous and give them bad rep, so they refuse to help me getting employed. Yet the fact I have no mean to earn money doesn't get me less dangerous. I'm vegan, but if I can't afford to buy bread, I could relax my diet to include human meat.

What should I do?
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 No.470635

>>470631
>yea, I'm sure terrorist troons who fail to pay their child support and want to get into machine learning can just stumble upon a board that doesn't even appear as the first result when you google "leftypol"

Maybe they went to both boards. Idk. Maybe they clicked one or two results down. How'd we get here if it's such an exclusive club?
>so the first time a copypasta is written it doesn't count as a copypasta?
Yeah, by definition. The first time it's posted, it's just a post, it's not a copypasta until it starts making the rounds and other people repost it. If you write something original down, the sheet you wrote it on isn't a "copy."

>the way pasta is written it's obvious that transhumanist himself told everyone about his kids "from the past life"
>it's a stereotypical image of a narcissistic radlib who just couldn't shut up about his personal life

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ok.
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 No.470637

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>>470635
>Maybe they went to both boards. Idk. Maybe they clicked one or two results down.
if you need to add epicycles to your theory to make it work then it's probably wrong

>How'd we get here if it's such an exclusive club?
I got here because I was banned by jannoids. So you can add another epicycle of OP getting banned by the ogre transhumanist-jannies..

>The first time it's posted, it's just a post, it's not a copypasta until it starts making the rounds and other people repost it.
JUST NO. That's absolutely, utterly ridiculous.

copypasta is a feature of the STRUCTURE of text, not of the actual act of copying and pasting

you can write a copypasta that doesn't get copy-pasted EVEN ONCE and it STILL would be a copypasta by the end of the day
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 No.470648

>>470637
>if you need to add epicycles to your theory to make it work then it's probably wrong

I mean, I do stuff like that. Personally, I find it weird that anyone only clicks the first result. That seems like the way a goldfish would use a search engine. Your assumptions about other people's behavior seem bizarre to me, because it makes it sound like finding leftychan.net is some kind of Herculean effort, when it's actually quite easy. Like, "ohhhhh, I'm straining my muscles to click the 4th result on google, ohhhh it's so hard…"
Nukka do you read the things u type?

>JUST NO. That's absolutely, utterly ridiculous.

No it's not, and I told you why. The first time you write something, it isn't a copy. I have only ever heard people use copypasta to refer to actual copypastas. This could be a shitpost, but it's not a copypasta, and I doubt that it ever will be.

>you can write a copypasta that doesn't get copy-pasted EVEN ONCE and it STILL would be a copypasta by the end of the day

No, it would be a failure. Learn the difference.
A copypasta is defined by users' interaction with it, not its structure. There's no utility in saying "copypasta" to refer to an original post nobody ever copies when you can just say it's a shitpost or bait or something. Like, there are words for the thing you're trying to describe, but "copypasta" isn't it.
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 No.470649

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>>470648
>I'm straining my muscles to click the 4th result on google
it's 7th
and nobody looks past the 3rd if it's not something they are purposefully looking for

>The first time you write something, it isn't a copy.
Gods. It's not about if it's a copy. It's about STRUCTURE of the post.

>No, it would be a failure.
It would be a bad copypasta, but copypasta nontheless.

>A copypasta is defined by users' interaction with it, not its structure.
ABSOLUTE NONSENSE.

If a post was CONSCIOUSLY, PREMEDITATEDLY structured in a way that is characteristic of a copypasta - it IS a copypasta.
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 No.470849

>>470568
>I'm a trans girl
lol kill yourself faggot

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