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 No.486037[View All]

Police search for gunman after Brian Thompson, 50, killed in Manhattan in ‘brazen targeted attack’

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/04/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-what-we-know-so-far
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 No.486291

>>486278
It will keep happening and nothing will fundamentally change as long as property relations remain untouched and class consciousness is low.
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 No.486292

>>486291
That's true but I also think this shooting demonstrated that there is some baseline of class consciousness in America.
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 No.486293

>>486290
Again you retard he was into adolf hitler. You can keep denying reality but all you are doing is showing how fucking shallow and pathetic your beliefs are. He was most likely a pollfag. You are not a leftist you are just a roll player. Sucking his dick dry because he inadvertently killed a ceo because he is a skitzo (big suprise) is not leftism.
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 No.486294

>>486292
>skitzo poll fag randomly kilsl ceo because his health insurance fucked him over

>wow bro the revolution is so close!!!
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 No.486295

Wtf I just learned Obama read Fanon & Marx once I guess he was a Communist after all!
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 No.486296

His politics don't matter. What does matter is that it's based and that people everywhere agree.
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 No.486297

>>486274
>waaah he wasn't ideologically pure enough you can't cheer for his action because of this
>also you're dogmatists btw
I've been reading 4chan and the corporate shills there are deploying similar tactics but in reverse, "you can't like this guy because he was muh leftist commie libtard, only muh ebil lefties would do this, also you're brown and jewish" and such. It's not working any better there. Almost all of 4chan is celebrating this bourg faggot's death too, and a lot of them are getting classpilled because of this. For my part, I don't care if this guy was a Nazi pedophile who eats well-done steak. This was an objectively good thing to do.
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 No.486298

>>486297
4chan hasn't been relevant since at least 2017 who cares
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 No.486299

killing a single individual CEO is a highly ideological act

it's something you would expect someone who wrote a long manifesto or a statement of beliefs to do.

At this moment, he appears to be a status seeker without much conviction, especially after his not guilty plea. The fact other leftists don't want him to be honest is even more pathetic.

What would be revolutionary would be for him to show a dedication to intelligently articulated issues with private health insurance, which it's not clear he does or many people on the chans and twitters do.
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 No.486300

A Lakeland, Florida, woman has been charged after police said she told an insurance company, “Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next.”

She reportedly called BlueCross BlueShield regarding medical insurance claims she was denied

It seems Mangione is inspiring females to make vague meaningless threats that get them thrown in jail immediately

"A Lakeland woman was charged Tuesday after police said she ended a call to an insurance company with the words, “Delay, Deny, Depose.”

https://www.wfla.com/news/polk-county/lakeland-woman-threatens-insurance-company-says-delay-deny-depose-police/

I find it interesting how the meaning of those three words are so obvious and yet the media universally acted like it was some mystery
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 No.486301

>>486300
“She readily admitted that, ‘Yeah that’s exactly what I said but I didn’t mean anything by it’,” Chief Taylor said. “Well, you don’t get to pull that back after you say it.”


Literal state of the left right now
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 No.486302

>>486298
Important enough for the bourgs to send shills there. And apparently so is this place despite much lower traffic.
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 No.486303

>>486302
I just checked 4chan and they're cheering the shooting so I dunno wtf ur on about

CEO execution is the right-libertarian method of corporate justice. Drill down on how right-libs want to deal with corrupt corporations and after an hour or two of arguing it always end with them arguing to execute CEOs.

CEOs get replaced in two seconds, it's a retarded ideological stance.
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 No.486304

>>486303
>I just checked 4chan and they're doing exactly what you said they're doing, I dunno wtf ur on about
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 No.486305

>>486301
"she's a patsy for the REAL woman who called BlueCross, the CIA set her up, it's a conspiracy hurr durr"
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 No.486306

>>486304
That poster's showing some serious *cough*fed*cough*nitive dissonace.
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 No.486307

>>486037
Think I'm changing my mind about Luigi, because his haters are so annoying, case in point:

https://hexbear.net/post/4075049
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 No.486309

I was reading an essay the other day by a medico on his reflections about covid and how "the science" is losing out to antivax nonsense. The tldr is that he thinks he (at the time) and people like him were too focused on having the right opinions and missed the wider context of what was happening, and what kind of psychological benefits antivax ideology was providing the people they were arguing with.

https://buttondown.com/abbycartus/archive/candle-in-the-wind/

He connects his experience to a similar problem where there are people on the left more interested in having the Correct Take at the expense of actually accomplishing anything. In particular he points out the failure of the left to meaningfully oppose and gain against Thatcherism.

This killing has energized the proletariat in a unique way, and rather than utilizing that energy in a useful way instead "Leftists" want to squabble over dogma and obscure colorations given to the act by oracular divinations of the perpetrator's character.

However you slice it, people love that it happened and particularly who it happened to. "Finally it happened to someone that deserved it."
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 No.486310

>>486294
You forgot about the part where everyone in the country started memeing about how based that was.
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 No.486313

>>486312
this is giving me the ick. I think we shouldn't talk about this CEO shooting anymore, this guy is problematic fr. like UGH he was no angel! hello!
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 No.486314

>>486313
>I think we shouldn't talk about this CEO shooting anymore
Well the ruling class probably wants to make an example out of this guy (who could just be a patsy) , but they probably can't as long as there's attention on him. Regardless of what you think of him as a person, you probably don't want to let a ruling class do something like that.
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 No.486316

>>486306
I suppose next he's going to be telling us that socialism is bad and we should all just vote for Democrats because that's what real leftists do. Imagine actually having a problem with a porky getting offed. And the idea that it's a bad thing has already been disproven by BCBS backing down on some more penny-pinching corporate bullshit they were going to do. They're not sending their best.

>>486313
>t. health insurance executive
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 No.486317

>>486313
We should talk about him and how his actions weren't the correct ones to take. Capital can easily sweep these isolated incidents under the rug.
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 No.486318

>>486317
>t. health insurance executive
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 No.486322

https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/12/11/wanted-posters-target-top-health-ceos-in-nyc/

>Authorities in New York City have issued a warning to healthcare executives following the distribution of ‘wanted’ posters featuring prominent industry leaders. These developments come after the apparent assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on December 4. The posters depict OptumHealth CEO Heather Cianfrocco and UnitedHealth Group CEO Andrew Witty. A poster of Thompson is included, with his face scored through with a bloody red ‘X.’
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 No.486326

>>486265
It's frankly hilarious how all the CIA has to do is plant some """right wing""" twitter posts under his name and suddenly your working class hero is a nazi. And you wonder why your movement is such a joke they don't even bother banning your from reddit.
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 No.486327

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1867234126086254976.html

> THREAD: The official narrative of how Luigi Mangione was apprehended doesn’t add up. Evidence suggests a deeper surveillance operation involving real-time facial recognition technology. Let’s delve into the inconsistencies and explore the implications. 🧵 Image

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>Considering Mangione’s efforts to conceal his identity, it’s improbable that a fast-food employee could identify him based solely on limited public images. We’re talking about a high-pressure, fast-paced environment where employees process hundreds of customers daily.


>But what if the real key to his capture wasn’t human recognition at all? I’ll bet you didn’t know McDonald’s kiosk cameras have facial recognition technology: pointjupiter.com/work/mcdonalds/


>Given the integration of this technology, it’s not unlikely that federal agencies can access these systems for surveillance with real-time facial recognition across multiple venues. The NSA and other agencies already have a track record of using private surveillance networks.


>Admitting the feds are running real-time facial recognition surveillance across the country would spark outrage. Instead, they sell a more "believable" narrative that a heroic employee saved the day.


>If this is true, it means federal agencies have access to live camera feeds in private businesses, and they’re using AI to scan and identify individuals in real time. Surveillance isn’t limited to fugitives – it could extend to anyone, anywhere.


>This has massive implications for privacy and civil liberties. If McDonald’s can be used as a hub for mass surveillance, what about other chains? Grocery stores? Gas stations? The infrastructure is already there. Image


>Kroger has faced scrutiny for using facial recognition tech too – and it’s even more dystopian. Not only are they scanning faces, but they’re linking that data to shopping profiles and potentially altering prices in real time based on your data. aclu.org/news/privacy-t…


>This isn’t just about marketing – it’s surveillance capitalism on steroids. Corporations are turning our faces into data points to manipulate our spending, while the government secretly piggybacks off that infrastructure to track civilians.


>We should demand transparency. If facial recognition is being used at this scale, we have a right to know. How much data are these companies collecting? Who else has access to this data, such as third parties and law enforcement? How are these technologies regulated, if at all?


>We’re at a crossroads. If we don’t push back now, this kind of tech will become the norm. Surveillance will be baked into every facet of our lives, from shopping to dining to simply walking down the street. Image


>The Mangione case and Kroger’s practices show us the future: a world where our faces are not just tracked but exploited, both by corporations seeking profit and governments seeking control.


>We need transparency and accountability: Clear limits on the use of facial recognition tech, protections against price manipulation based on profiling, and strong oversight of government access to private surveillance networks.


>This isn’t just a McDonald’s or Kroger issue – it’s a systemic shift. Facial recognition is becoming the foundation of a surveillance economy, and we must demand better protections now.
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 No.486328

>>486327
Tbh this narrative is the 2nd most feasible after him being a patsy and it being a setup.
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 No.486329

>>486326
Ftr that poster is also CIA. ;D
Most users here don't buy the psyop.
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 No.486330

>>486318
Yes, let's condone the actions of people that thank feds and don't value human life.
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 No.486331

>>486329
>badjacketing this hard
>tfw the entire board of directors of United Healthcare is in this thread begging us not to throw turtle shells at them
Riddle me this you fucking shill faggots. Assuming it actually was a psyop, what the fuck would be the point? Why would the porkies put together a psyop designed to bring people together across political boundaries in utter contempt for them? If it is a psyop it's the worst psyop ever. Seems to me like the only psyop here is the people attempting to convince you it's a psyop. This is the standard porky tactic whenever somebody does something that they actually feel threatened by. They try to make it out to look like it's fake because obviously nobody would ever actually attack the filthy rich bastards screwing the whole country over. They need to do this to maintain their illusion of invincibility. But the truth is that they're not invincible and this shooting has proven that to everybody. They're quaking in their $1000 boots right now.
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 No.486332

>>486327
<Door N°1
The guy from the burger-restaurant recognized him
<Door N°2
Surveillance shit
<Door N°3
It's the wrong guy and they're framing him, because the actual shooter got away, and they can't admit that.


You also are not grasping the full extend of a surveillance society.

It's not just about spying on everyone. They're creating something like a theocratic institution that can accuse people of literally imaginary crimes, just by making up fake surveillance data. Also actual criminals can do the reverse by hiding their crimes with fake surveillance data, manufacturing fake alibis.

The problem isn't just about getting rid of the surveillance, if people decide to remove all the bugs, they can . It's perhaps much harder to make people realize that it can't really be trusted. Remember the Iraq war ? They made up fake satellite images and invented a story about weapons of mass destruction. Aside from the malicious stuff, systems have errors.

It used to be that it was very difficult to create fake images sounds and what ever else, movie studios could do it but that cost a lot of resources and time. So people trusted pictures, videos etc to be genuine recordings of reality. But it's not anymore and therefore the first step towards a better world is addressing misplaced trust, and ask our self's is surveillance actually a recording of reality.
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 No.486335

>>486331
>Riddle me this you fucking shill faggots. Assuming it actually was a psyop, what the fuck would be the point?
I was saying the poster that AnCap flag was replying to was a fed. Check who AnCap flag was replying to. The psyop I'm referring to is the "HE WAS A NAZI!!!! STOP CLAPPING!!!! DON'T GAIN CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS!!!!! NOOOO!!!" guys, who are clearly feds. ;P
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 No.486337

>>486335
Sorry, I misinterpreted what you were saying as a shill accusation against ancap poster. I figured it was intended to set us against each other because socialists and ancaps don't normally get along, but it turns out ancaps don't like Thompson either because the Obamacare mandate to buy private health insurance is anti-free market. But what I said is generally applicable to the shills here regardless.

>>486330
>let's value the life of a guy who had so little respect for others' lives that he let them die by the thousands solely because it wasn't profitable to keep them alive
How about no.
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 No.486342

>>486297
Literacy is at an all time low and it's so sad. You are free to do whatever you want but if you want to cling desperately to some random right wing skitzo (of which he was as again I have stated several times that his amazon library had fucking mein comph in it) rather than, I Don't know, get off your fat lazy ass and actually build a left wing collective movement to fight for something more then you are just going to come off to the average person as another shallow freak libtard. You are a desperate parasite shifting from on host to the next.
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 No.486343

>>486299
Yeah it is a highly ideological act. His insurance company fucked him over. You can fire a gun and stalk a CEO and have zero class awarness.
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 No.486344

>>486310
>hahaha a ceo got killed

>wow bro the revolution is tomorrow!


You have a childs fucking understanding of politics.
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 No.486345

>>486312
>He praised a right wing fucking primitivist who killed literally thousands of innocent people!!!


Foundationless fucking worthless opportunists up in this bitch.
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 No.486349

>>486343
>His insurance company fucked him over.
Luigi Mansione was not a customer of UHC.
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 No.486350

>>486344
>>486345
You write like an actual child anon.
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 No.486351

>>486349
Why is his name Luigi's Mansion? WHY
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 No.486353

>>486349
and he probably could afford proper surgery anyway since his family is filthy rich.
i personally think the backpain post-surery drow him crazy and made him hate the medical industry,he started reading up on it and realized how fucked up and inpopular the insurance business is, so he then figured out that he might aswell sacrifice himself for a greater cause and become a martyr.
His life quality would be shit anyways because of the pain and being unable to have sex, might aswell do something to be remembered and idolized by
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 No.486354

>>486351
Why isn't yours?
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 No.486366

>Ex-United Healthcare Employee BLOWS WHISTLE: FORCED to Deny Claims
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 No.486377

>>486350
He's not wrong though
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 No.486378

>>486350
He's not wrong though
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 No.486379

>>486344
Bro, are you like upset about the death of that CEO?
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 No.486392

>>486379
How did things get this bad? Seriously?
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 No.486403

>>486379
They're not upset at the CEO dying they're just pointing out that isolated violence like this won't lead to real revolutionary action.

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