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Wtf. You guys told me that electing Biden and beating Cheeto Hitler was a victory for labor?!
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I'm gonna need a better source than "trust me bro"


fuck off ukrop


>This was typed with Cheeto stained fingers.


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Good job, team left


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I'm so glad we voted out Orange Man to appease a bunch of histrionic roasties

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I'll start
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Yes, we live among you. Impostors, if you like.


Is wrk the opposite or r9k?


Idk. I browse leftychan and 4chan /r9k/ at work. I'm sure NEETs are overrepresented on those boards but I have seen anons on the 4chan board post proof of earning six figure salaries. Being able to bullshit your way through an interview and having a job doesn't mean you can get sex.


I ment to say of r9l* but sure lol


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How come people don't want to work hard?


People don't want to work for capitalist bosses, in the eyes of the capitalist bosses that becomes nobody wants to work in general, because obviously they can't imagine them selves being part of the motivation problem.

Marx thought that when class society was overcome, work would become live's prime want. This will be true to an extend non-alienated work can be extremely rewarding in a way that waging for porky can never be. But realistically there is work that is just dread-full regardless of the social relations.

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Don't want to work for what we give you? Fine, be replaced by robots.
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>work at a bakery
>make 100 loaves of bread
>get paid minimum wage
>buy slice of bread

Who produces anything of value again?


No, dead labor, is labor that achieves no productive output. Like making mud pies. I don't know what you have been reading but it isn't Marx.

>Marx made the argument that technological advances would undermine the rate of profit, and that isn't entirely true.

Marx pointed out that the tendency of the rate of profit to fall happens because of innovation in the market, or, through greater exploitation of labor. I am unaware of any writings he made where he clearly states that this would cause the system of capitalism to collapse. Marx understood that over throwing the system of capitalism was in the individual interest of the working class as a whole and up to us to pick up sed reigns of history.

Now, capitalism can become something else other than capitalism as we know it through market mechanisms such as the rate of profit to fall and rolling the dice maybe that could be communism (though I highly doubt that would be the case in the modern day and age.) but this sounds a whole lot like the misreadings of Marx as some deterministic path of history when it clearly wasn't.

Also you are going to have to explain how the technological argment was "refusted" because I work and I don't have time to really watch the video currently though I can catch up to it in the future, though, I have trouble believing this because it clearly makes intuitive sense.


I agree that people should make their own arguments but it's a bit silly to believe some one doesn't or does have a point based on the fact they merely posted a video or that videos/books mean that some one has been "indoctrinated" That is just anti-intellectualism. Everything we know about our entire reality has slowly been built up and passed on to us now over the course of hundreds of thousands of years.
Math, Science, Language, Writing, philosophy. We stand on the shoulders of giants, etc etc.


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>Maybe in absolute terms more energy and complexity is emerging but relative to the amount of wealth being created complexity and energy use are dramatically going down.
Societies that deploy more complex technology use more energy without exception.
Measuring how much total energy was embodied in a commodity (assuming that is what you mean with wealth) is almost impossible in a capitalist economy, because capitalist economics doesn't record externalized costs.

> With AI a single worker will be able to run an entire factory floor, it will unironically be like "The Jetsons".

That means increasing the amount of capital-stock, You need the regular factory production machines plus the AI tools.
The rate of profit goes down if Capital-stock increases proportionally to the population size.
Capitalism is not tending towards the Jetsons scenario. The capitalists are not investing in technology driven labor productivity increases anymore. It has completely stagnated for over a decade. (see graph)


When This Pilot Quit Her Job, Her Employer Billed Her $20,000

You will work for is and you will like it.

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Post wagie humor here


To be fair that quote isn't entirely true.
The workers might be quitting.


Kek that shit cracks me up. People complain "no one wants to work!" "Look at all the help anted signs!" When they have them up 24/7


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heres one said by blacks
"last to get hired, first to get fired"

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How do young people even move out of their parents now? I'm nearly 18 years old with zero plans to go to college and I don't have my driver's license. I live in California so rent will cost an arm and a leg. My dad bought a house in this hellhole and he's expecting me to work and help him pay the mortgage if I want to live to live here. I don't want to live in this hot as fuck place, if you know California as it is now it's getting hotter every year and the fires get worse and worse. What I really want is a place to start fresh in another state, but rent is going to be costly as fuck in every city in this country.
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Very Poetic, Anon.


The extended family as an economic unit is making an unwelcome comeback.


by having sex with other peoples parents duh


I know a couple people who unironically live this way.


Rent reviving polyamory is some hilarious late capitalism shit. Hmm, would I be willing to repurpose my man cave into a flat for a tenant who would pay her way with sex and cleaning? Nah, I really like that cave.

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Hi I am Middle Data scientist, good ComputerVision skills with OpenCV. I am very wide skilled.
I want relocate from Russia.
I have skill with Linux Administration Gentoo/Debian/Ubuntu, and basic security skill.



Can't tell if bot or Non English speaker.


It's just data scientist Vitaliy Chepelev from Belgorod, Russia.

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"Just pick up a trade" is the new "just learn to code bro"
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>Omg, don't tell me to learn a useful skill. I should get paid for just existing!
Millennials and gen z were a mistake


And he has already been doing the trade for the past ten-plus years, most of which he spent doing the miserable bitch work for a pittance.
>Learning a trade allows you to potentially become self employed
Fucking lel. The petit-bourgeoisie is dying out and yet bootstrappers constantly put forward the claim that you can join them with just a little (read "a decade or two") of poorly paid and miserable hard work.
Construction is good, except when it's not. It's a boom-and-bust business, and it's a young man's game.


90% of coding under capitalism is paper pushing bullshit


you seem to be lost.

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Why the fuck do we have a society that has rationalized and normalized the idea of working grave yard shifts? Literally no human on earth is biologically designed for this shit.

It doesn't make any damn sense what so ever.
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Just sleep during your shift after everyone leaves lmao


I work on an assembly line.


The answer is literally in Capital Volumn 1. Any time that the means of production are not actively being used they are losing value. Thus, it behooves the ruling class to keep them producing as close to constantly as possible. When extending workers hours stopped being practical, shift work become a necessity.


>Our biology is fine with night time
>the sun gives me a headache



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ITT: We post our recent poverty moments


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ITT: I live in a camper. Recently my camper toilet was backed up so we basically had to keep shitting in a giant pile of shit that smelled horrible and we had to literally take a giant pipe and stab a giant pool of shit and get shit all over the place in order to unclog the tank. it was fucking disgusting. I had literal shit all over me.


The income threshold for rent assistance got raised to just above my income!

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