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▶ No.182[Reply]

How come people don't want to work hard?
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>>430
Thats a fair point but theres still alot of bad actors.

Alot of lumpenproles, at least where Ivlive, they came from well off homes but they splurged.
They wasted away their prime on booze, drugs, and fights.
And now they think the world owes them something just because they were the last generation grow up before the Internet.


Byt ok, if proles cannot be blamed why do adults blame children for the state if academia?
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▶ No.437

>>435
>Thats a fair point
So why do you continue your attempts at punching down ?
>but theres still alot of bad actors.
the much bigger problem is the bad system

If you have a system that screws people over, it tends to attempt to demonize it's victims. If you partake in this praxis, you'll just making me think you're part of the perpetrators. People are what they are, you have to make the system fit the people, otherwise the system is wrong.

>generation before the internet vs generation after the internet
>adults vs children
I'm sorry but those divisions don't make a lot of sense. It's usually the rulers vs the masses.
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▶ No.438

>>435
>why do adults blame children for the state if academia?
There is a kernel of truth in this sentiment.
We probably should invert some of the evaluations mechanic in education.
For example we could test explanations for their potential to enable children to learn and understand, rather than doing it the other way around.
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>>392
>>400
Does the boss man give wagies a script to read from or what
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▶ No.445

>>444
If true, that piss man should be fired from the economy for such inefficiency in running business & get all his stuff redistributed to the demos who's running this cuntry.
Imagine ever wasting your time on shitty proles when every respectable citizen knows that the responsibility of supporting the ideology of class society is on the slaves themselves, not on their natural masters.

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▶ No.439[Reply]

He is a thespian operative (a real life actor) portraying himself as a blue collar tradesperson inclined. Mike Rowe has powerful connections with Koch Industries to con people into the trades. I am not against the trades and I appreciate trade workers & was one myself, but Rowe is misrepresenting the benefits therefore. In certain blue collar trades, you may never get to retire because of occupational induced illnesses leading to premature death and disability.
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The world's most famous scab.
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>>440
ohh, it's that guy

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▶ No.294[Reply]>>370

What do you think of the push to make employees working fro home, to return to the office?
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▶ No.370

>>294
good
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>>368
Not sure I understand your point. To clarify I'm saying that workers got a huge concession of being able to work from anywhere in the world and not spend time or money commuting. That's a really big win! And they didn't fight at all to keep it. Pathetic.
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▶ No.372

>>371
>Not sure I understand your point.
I'll try to do better.
>To clarify I'm saying that workers got a huge concession of being able to work from anywhere in the world and not spend time or money commuting. That's a really big win! And they didn't fight at all to keep it.
How would they fight to keep it ? Create a picket-line and protest for turning the video-call software back on ? I don't see any potential in trying to make corporate bureaucracy go back to working from home. I don't see any hope you can convince big organizations to give up on having a special place/building, or just change them selves in general.

The potential benefit for workers is that they can create a coop even if they lack the capital to rent/buy office space. I see this as a mechanism for making boot-strapping easier, as in lowering the bar to entry. Like something people do in the beginning, to reduce costs.

So instead of seeking to change existing organizations, the goal should be creating new organizations, that's where this technology has it's strong points.
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▶ No.379

Socially and historically necessary.
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▶ No.436

Yet, remote schooling or homeschooling is still pathologised by people.

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▶ No.205[Reply]

JUST
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>>206
>In a socialist system people would be payed to gain skill and experience
Just 50 years ago, it was normal to work your entire life for the same company so it was not a problem for them to pay, even sometime a lot of money to train their workers.

I wouldn't call that socialism.
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▶ No.357

>>356
I guess that the difference is that in a socialist system it's worth it to try to up-skill the entire population, not just workers of specific companies. Because even 50 years ago, many workers never got the opportunity to get skill training, let alone get payed for the effort.

From the perspective of the entire economy it's of course well worth it to have a population that is as skilled as they can be. But the capitalist class clearly has concluded that they prefer the opposite, because what they did was cause massive de-skilling.
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▶ No.360

>>206
>In a socialist system people would be payed
Socialism is when the government-owned enterprise pays you stuff for selling your work hours by the wagie contract you signed with the appointed manager of that enterprise.
Cool.

kys
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>>422
That's simultaneously funny and sad

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▶ No.411[Reply]

Whenever you don't have a job, you are ostracized from society. You literally don't exist.
Why are people like this? Working is fucking miserable.
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This is such a a spoiled and entitled additude. Working sucks, but, it probably isn't the fact you don't have a job that you are ostracized it's probably the fact you are a whiny spoiled brat about work on general. Working generally does suck but to enjoy a modern existence we must do labor to survive and sustain ourselves. It would be nice to not have a parasitical class of leeching sucking the blood from ounlive force/labor but even with out that some work will need to be done. Most people flip burgers and get very little from such work, but, ask anyone working in an actual factory or some type of production facilities and you will discover they are quite happy.
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workimg is better than school
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▶ No.419

>>417
>>412
Holy fuck leftychads, proof reading.
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>proof reading
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>>420
Check'm

Are you saying proof reading is soy?

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▶ No.33[Reply]>>109

inb4
>you can have no friends and be a socialist
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▶ No.109

>>33
>you can have no spooks and be a socialist
yes I have no spooks
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▶ No.110

>>35
>>38
I can be your friend tho
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▶ No.111

I have a hand full of irl friends. Statistically speaking people are more lonely now than ever before especially men.
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>>44
>most of the working class are young guys who call women bitches, get into fights, and drink.
those are the few good people
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>>44
thats more middle aged guys.

But its not like the women are better either.
I work in customer service and the females are catty and will dump thehard wirk on the males.

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▶ No.23[Reply]

Welp here we go again
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▶ No.395

>>394
Don't destroy yourself because capitalism has failed you. The system is wrong, you're not the problem.

You're going to have more luck if you apply the logic of mass artillery barrages to Sending applications. Send tens of thousands to improve your statistical odds of "hitting the target". Also optimize the information you put in those papers, the only metric is whether or not you get a job, everything else is idealism.

If the paper-route doesn't work, try the organic route of in person contact.

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▶ No.381[Reply]>>385

How do I stop being a nervous wreck during job interviews? I shake and stutter over my words.
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>>381
Overthrow capitalism and deploy socialist full-employment policy. If the economy has to hire you the hole anxiety-thing will go away.
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>>385
Is it time for me to trip on psychedelics again?
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▶ No.387

>>386
Some people are claiming that psychedelics help with anxiety. No clue whether there is anything to it. There also are risks and side-effects, like seizures for example.

The precarious existence under capitalism is anxiety-inducing, the only real solution is to change that environmental variable. Chemically nuking your temporal lobe to attempt to pave over the symptoms of a detrimental environment, is probably not a sustainable strategy in the long run.

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▶ No.374[Reply]>>376

Why is it so hard to get a job that isn't wagie retail or fast food? I've been applying since July and nothing yet aside from Interviews
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▶ No.376

>>374
Maybe the (in)human-resources algorithm has combobulated all the snooping data from the anti-privacy machine, and determined your purpose is to pass the burger / stack the boxes.

Maybe you have to trick the algorithm for it to give you a better purpose.

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▶ No.369[Reply]>>375

Reminder that the reason employers ban gossiping in the workplace is to silence workers from banding together which often results in combating abuse in the workplace and solving workplace issues. Gossiping can lead to the formation of unions which employers don't like so they've made up the issue of "workplace bullying".
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▶ No.373

Lol, when people tell me "work is not the place for politics" Their jaws always hit the floor when I tell them "actually I think work is the most important place to discuss politics that there is"

It's really, really, funny, actually, lol.
People who don't understand why though are so fucking brainless. It's amazing, really.
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▶ No.375

>>369
If you can't use gossiping for the formation of unions, use something else.
Or just make gossiping appear as "combating abuse in the workplace and solving workplace issues" by mimicking the appropriate social rituals while gossiping.

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