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I have 2 questions.

Why is it that as different political parties become more similar in terms of policy, the greater the political strive and conflict in the political arena ?

For example in UK politics tori and labor parties have grown ever more similar, or in the US republican and democrat parties only have very few policies that differ. And yet the political hostilities have reached a fever pitch.

Without understanding the nature of this samer-angrier dynamic, i ask another question should the left have lumped those parties with similar politics together. As in referring to a Labori party or a Democrublican party ? In order to create a new 2-way choice the-left vs the-other-lumpbable-parties
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Jesus Christ another thread shat all over by a schizo who refuses to take his meds.


this is one schizo I listen to.
Compared to the whiny "tfw no gf" manbabies on LeftyPol, this guy is a breath of fresh air.


>If it isn't about males or females, it has nothing to do with sex, and "gender" only refers to assigning sexual characteristics to non-sexual things. Being gay is not a "gender". Usually "third genders" were categories to include failed males who lived under abject humiliation. It's disgusting that such ritual abuse is glorified, but eugenics will always do that.


There would not be an intersex condition if it weren't understood to be related to sexed characteristics. Sex is not an essence that is imposed on reality, but premised on function. Males inseminate the females, females can carry children. Every function distinguishing males and females is related to that.
Most intersex people hate this ideological shit by the way. They almost always aim to pass as whatever sex they most resemble or find most convenient. It has long been known and it's yet another eugenics and Germanic ideology offensive at the expense of people who wanted none of it.

Do you think about what it's like for someone to know they were sterile at birth and will never have a family - not because of social rejection and the shame and humiliation ritual, but because their body will not allow it? It fucks with someone to know that from birth, because they committed no moral offense. The eugenic creed is that all biological conditions are moral offenses against the state - the highest offenses, since they do not believe in law and laugh at justice, as fags always do. They want everyone to be as Satanic as them and those who did the least are the most guilty simply because they can't stand anyone who doesn't reinforce their Satanic religion.


The social rejection and stupid gender rituals are just more kicks in the teeth and an exercise in eugenism and its predecessors. I don't even regard them. I'm a male because I have a penis, and that's all that I really care about. I don't assign to it this great moral value that defines what I am. What eugenics does is conflates sexualism and adherence to their Satanic ethos with maturity, and only men and women who are granted this seal of approval are valid. All of that ideology is for eugenics and you're an asshole for advancing any of it. It doesn't mean that I have any confusion about being a male or when men are like, and I'm not getting any younger. I want the same things most men of my age want or wanted, for the same reasons. They are not complicated and I am not an essentially different entity. "Gay" as a social identity is another test of that. There is a gay "culture" or rather a set of perverse rituals, much of which is either an artifice of eugenism or a precursor of the eugenic creed rooted in ritual sacrifice. So many homosexual men will tell me or anyone who will listen that they fucking hate "gay" and this idiotic culture that was made "for them", to humiliate them and entertain the ritual sacrifice and aristocratic malice. They just wanted to fuck. It's prison sex, really. It really is. You can go ask them yourself.


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Continued from >>479880

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 34,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll.

The US Congress, with Biden's support, passed the final version of a bill to authorize more than $26,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel. It's been pointed out that this is illegal under US law.

Israel initiated its ground assault of Rafah.

Israel attacked the Iranian consulate in Damascus, killing 16, and resulting in a carefully planned Iranian missile retaliation against military targets in Israel.

The International Court of Justice made an interim ruling in South Africa's favor in their case accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza, deeming it plausible. Ireland, Turkey, and Colombia joined Nicaragua in signing on to South Africa's case against Israel.

Yemeni Houthi attacks on shipping, in solidarity with Gaza, have continued, expanding to the Indian ocean.

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>500 health workers killed in Gaza, including doctors with rare specialisations
it's this kind of shit that really hammers it home.
The Zionists really are trying to annihilate the Palestinians.
Wiping out a societies ability to provide medical services, that really clarifies the intentions.


Drones target Iraq base housing US-led coalition: Report

Two attack drones were launched against a military base in Iraq where US and international forces are stationed in Anbar province.

“One drone was shot down outside the [Ain al-Assad] base by defence systems, and the second exploded inside the base without causing any injuries or damage,” an unnamed security official told AFP news agency.

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq, an alliance of Iran-backed armed groups, has carried out more than 175 rocket and drone attacks against US-led troops in Iraq and Syria in recent months.

It says the attacks are in solidarity with the Palestinians during the continuing war in Gaza, demanding an end to the Israeli invasion.

Maersk: Red Sea shipping ‘disruption’ effects spread globally

Denmark’s shipping giant AP Moller-Maersk says “disruption” to its routes via the Red Sea has now extended beyond the Middle East and Europe to its entire global network.

Shipping groups have diverted cargo vessels around Africa’s Cape of Good Hope since December to avoid attacks by Yemen’s Houthi militia in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden, with the longer voyage times pushing freight rates far higher and delivery times taking months longer.
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'Stunning Abdication': Appeals Court Dismisses Biden Genocide Complicity Case
"We turned to the law to help stop the horror, and the court chose to do nothing," said one plaintiff in the case. "We are beyond disappointed."

Palestine defenders on Tuesday decried a U.S. federal appellate panel's dismissal of a case brought by Palestinians accusing senior Biden administration officials of failing to prevent and complicity in Israeli genocide in Gaza.

A three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco affirmed a lower court's dismissal of the lawsuit against President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken, and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, which was led by the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) on behalf of several Palestinian groups and individuals.

During a Tuesday interview on Democracy Now!, CCR attorney Katherine Gallagher—who represented plaintiffs in the case—said its dismissal "essentially gives the blank check to carry out any kind of conduct that the executive wants in times of genocide, in times of war."

Gallagher's interview followed a Monday statement in which she referred to the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling granting the president "absolute immunity" for "official acts."

"On the heels of Trump v. United States, this stunning abdication of the court's role to serve as a check on the executive even in the face of its support for genocide should set off alarm bells for all," she said.

The lawsuit—originally filed in November in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in Oakland—sought to stop the Biden administration from aiding Israel's bombardment of Gaza. U.S. weapons have played a critical role in Israel's war, which Palestinian and international agencies say has killed, wounded, or left missing more than 137,500 Gazans.

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Ben-Gvir told ministers delaying captive deal could help Trump: Report

Israel’s National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has told Israeli cabinet members that reaching a deal now would be a slap in Trump’s face that would benefit Biden politically, according to comments reported in Israeli media outlets Channel 13 and The Times of Israel.

Israeli military kills member of al-Jamaa al-Islamiya in Lebanon

Our Al Jazeera Arabic colleagues are reporting that the Israeli military has assassinated a member of al-Jamaa al-Islamiya group in a drone strike on a car in the east of Bekaa governorate in Lebanon.

We will bring you updates on this story when we have them.

China urges ceasefire, calls on Israel to stop ‘collective punishment’ in Gaza

In a speech at the UN Security Council on Wednesday, China’s permanent representative to the world body called for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and the implementation of a two-state solution, while also urging Israel to “cease its collective punishment of the Gaza people”.

“Countries with important influence should earnestly make sincere and responsible efforts to promote parties concerned to demonstrate political will and implement relevant Security Council resolutions,” Fu Cong said.
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How hilarious that Trump worship fucks over the dips who boosted him too. He screws over everyone fool enough to allow him to exist.


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Who are you voting for, anon?

So far, the top candidates are:
Jill Stein (Green)
Cornel West (Independent)
Claudia De la Cruz (Party for Socialism and Liberation)
Joseph Kishore (Socialist Equality Party)
and now "Based Chase" Oliver (Libertarian)

and then there are some unserious candidates nobody likes.
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My guess is, if anyone from Team Democrat is interested in challenging Trump, it will be announced by making clear that the republic really is dead, and the objective will be to create a new thing, except without the faggotry we see on display from Trump and company.


Why did my post about state-assigned girlfriends get removed? .net is showing they are no different than redlib Ogre..


I'm looking into it. Was it a post or thread?


org has threads about state assigned gfs all the time that dont get deleted.
Its the threads about other things that are


Iirc De la Cruz was at some previous iterations. I think those were the debates for the primaries or something?
I forget if West has attended any.

I honestly don't care about "left vs. right." Tbh my personal ideal would be that the Greens, Libertarians, West, PSL, etc. just join forces for one election to fix our foreign policy and then work out the kinks afterwards. It's unlikely to happen, but it would probably be the best electoral outcome. We're headed into an era of empire desperately trying to protect itself from collapse with increasingly brutal repression, and also an era of an overstretched empire at a vulnerable point where it can be hijacked by Odoacer types. What I'd like is to alter the course, and I don't care if others who disagree with me on a lot of things are involved in that - I find right-libertarian economics very dumb, but I'd still love to have them on board for a coalition if it meant the country that I live in doesn't get trampled by the Iron Heel or instigate WWIII.


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So I thought here and now would be a good time to tell you I'm uploading parts of my book that I have completed. You can find them at:


I have up to chapter 13 written of the third book, and the whole of the second book. Maybe you all can provide feedback (and anyone saying snark will be given the fag tag).

It gets pretty depressing but I saw Chapter 13 as one of the more uplifting, since I basically say the way out… if only humans wanted such a thing. We've always known that, but all of the build-up to that is where we would really have to go. It's a pity humans will never think like that, not now.
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Eugene, where does pedophilia/ephebophilia etc. lie in the eugenics trend?


Sounds like you don't have much opinion on MGS, which is fair ofc. I thought you might have more thoughts on it bc the series puts a lot of focus on stuff like genetics/eugenics, "memes", mind control, forced injections/medication, and similar topics that you write about a lot. It comes across to me on the one hand as criticizing those things, but also reifying/reinforcing those narratives at the same time.


Not him, but my 2c are that if eugenics is a ruling class cult, the child trafficking is 100% expected behavior that is normal for the ruling class, cults, and ruling class cults in history.

For example, Engels:
>Among the Scots, as among the Welsh, a relic even of the punaluan family persisted into the Middle Ages in the form of the right of the first night, which the head of the clan or the king, as last representative of the former community of husbands, had the right to exercise with every bride, unless it was compounded for money.

Or this stuff:

I can't find a source for this, but I also read that some ancient cult societies had a practice where a girl would be sexually initiated by the priests when she had her first period.

Think of all the slave masters, kings, princes, emperors etc in history. Did they obey AOC laws? Lol, no they didn't. Present-day laws and taboo around AOC are not really different from the ancient taboos, they apply to commoners and not the rulers so that the rulers get first dibs.


This was at the heart of the euthanasia push. It was in the discourse during the 1990s, then as a "hypothetical" - but they were making us public humiliation targets and attacking the family for "genetic sin". Behind the curtain, where "real society" happened, they bragged they would kill us, and there was nothing we would do to stop it. Cue "euthanasia" and the push-back when it was rammed through, against law and reason and all sentiment. Everything about so-called "euthanasia" is illegal on multiple grounds, violates any possibility that there can be law, and is a declaration of open season on anyone not granted explicit license to live. It is an extension of "papers please" in every institution - so you could see this happen from the moment it became obligatory for human beings to be tracked from cradle to grave. In principle, states always did this as is their right - there's nothing preventing the state from knowing what happens within its domain, and record-keeping regarding the people is basic to any concept of the state. But, the new innovation was occulting the state and denying any basis for law as such - and eugenism and euthanasia are deliberate assaults on any law that is anything other than a procedure for glorifying eugenics. That was what was always at stake, rather than the moral sentiment regarding the death of any one person or genocide. It would be horrifying if very few people were actually killed, and one way they "mollified" people is to assure that this would be a rare, edge case "for those that needed it". Then you get MAiD gone haywire.

What gets me about the autism thing isn't that they're being killed and a good person is put to death because of the label. Most of us have long been ready to die, knowing that this world will never be different and humans will always hate us. The point is that they wish to control how we live and how we die. We don't get "clean death", and this is exemplified throughout the "euthanasia" discourse. They do not believe in "clean death", yet that is sometimes sold to the damned as a way to impose unlimited torture and the thrill of torture for the valid. Such are the values of eugenism.
Like I say, this is the worst thing humanity has ever done. Much worse than the Nazis.

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Well yeah, Kojima I imagine is someone "in the know". Nothing in that game is a new revelation.
It's still a pretty cool game, and as far as I know there weren't games like it up to that point. The paranoid style is difficult to pull off in a video game.

Now, if you want to have a video game discussion, the subtext of Undertale and Undertale Yellow is a whole other thing, for good or bad. It's the definitional "Zoomer" game.


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literal who


a nazi faggot


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you're retarded this self-loathing piece of shit is not known for his bnwo nazi troon agenda and one of the reasons why he gained many followers? he's into that shit, it ain't visible because of terminally online this cunt is.

Here's some more details, he fucks for a living - https://x.com/saucynudles


i don't have twitter and i don't know and don't want to click on the "fbi" link. can someone please post wall of text for me to understand the situation ?


How is being a faggot justification for a raid from a leftist imageboard? /i/ is not a personal army request board


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First of all this is incredibly based and God bl3ss them shoot R.I.P To a real one but this is fucking bad news politically. He's gonna win for sure now and this will cause a reaction upswell we haven't seen in a hundred years not only in the US b UT globally. This is terrible news and propaganda of the deed is fail3d as a political strategy.
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He's been getting below 40% approval for most months since October, and regularly polling worse than Trump since that time, and Dems have been wanting him to drop out 'cuz of his age since before that. He lost enough votes in Michigan over his active support of Israel's genocide that it could mean the difference between losing or winning that swing state, and he hasn't been able to go anywhere without protests in this entire 10 month span.
On top of this, Trump is not actually a great candidate, and he won without the popular vote in 2016 to a candidate who was substantially outpolling what Biden has been polling since October. Biden could easily lose the popular vote to one of the least popular presidents in recent history, and this was true even before the debate. His numbers dropped even more after the debate, but he was already lagging behind in like half the polls at that point. He's fucked and he's been fucked.


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Hello /leftypol/, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
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>Every school of economics mainstream or not switched from labor theory of value to subjective value in the late 1800s.
Ah yes, the Counter-Enlightenment. Members of the ruling class got a little too uncomfortable the logical conclusions of classical political economy so they started funding stooges to sap all the empiricism out of economics and replace it with unfalsifiable naval gazing and cheerleading.



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Hello lads. I was recently released from prison, come home to find I do not know where to lurk anymoar. I used to hang out on lainchan and 8chan. Reincarnations of both are still around but they have changed quite a bit.

I don't want consoymerism threads. I just want to know where the similar faggots are gathering these days. I know that there are people like me too stubborn to give up on this so I'm sure they are all congregating somewhere in a virtual valhalla. I've tried here for a few days but this is too fringe for my liking although I may share your politics.

Any advice appreciated
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What error?

Does your browser not have cookies enabled?


>Does your browser not have cookies enabled?
nope Borwser-cookies are enabled


Which browser? (and, do you have any unusual settings which might affect it)


i'm a bit too paranoid to give exact info, it's a very common browser and the config is pretty standard.

You seem to think the problem is on my end, I'll try using another browser.


>it's a very common browser and the config is pretty standard
That's good enough. I've tested Chromium and Firefox.
>You seem to think the problem is on my end
It works for me and I just haven't heard anyone else mention a cookie problem yet. I might affect other people and just no-one said anything, it's hard to know.
Maybe there's a cookie-blocking extension?



Sunak came out and declared they're on for July 4th. Corbyn's now running as an independent. Andrew Feinstein is running against Starmer, and maybe he'll knock him out of his seat - who knows?

Are you excited, /leftypol/?
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How do I do bold in your fake gay vichan clone.
>No they were forced to divest because constant trade union agitation in the 60s, 70s and 80s made it completely unprofitable to run any kind of factory in the UK.


You are correct about the huge human losses caused by the neocon proxy-war in Ukraine. However you are wrong to downplay the industrial production weakness of the west, it's so blatantly obvious that even with ideological blinders on max, it can no longer be denied.
You are correct that the best course of action is to make peace with Russia. However you are wrong that the alternative would be a NATO escalation, the alternative to seeking peace will be the Ukrainian state collapsing, and the Russian victors dictating what happens then.

You are trying to scapegoat the trade unions, the socialists, and so on. But it is a capitalist economy and the capitalists are the one's that decide where the surplus of society gets invested. Nobody but them can be responsible. The capitalists decided to de-industrialize the west to chase after low-wages in the periphery. The result of that is that the west is now de-industrialized and it's no longer possible to maintain the imperial system. The capitalist chose short term profits over long term sustainability of their system. They have nobody to blame but them selves.

The high energy prices were caused by neo-liberal economic doctrine, they could have chosen to have a public energy sector that invested into nuclear power. The cost of energy would now be to cheap to meter. I suppose that you could also blame the investors for failing to invest in nuclear power, there was nothing stopping them from doing that after-all.

BTW some of the rise in energy cost is price-hiking. They could hand over controle over the energy sector to socialists, energy costs would go down. All the industrial socialist states managed to have very cheap energy after-all.

It sounds like you are accusing me personally of having caused global warning. That's obviously nonsense.

>Pretty sure Thatcher was pro-nuclear. You've only got Blair and New Labour to blame at this point.

The fact is that investment into nuclear power plummeted during the time the neo-liberals controlled economic doctrine. Almost everywhere not just in the UK. There is a systemic problem with neo-liberalism that prevents it from making rational choices. They didn't just fuck up the energy sector, you know.


The working class is revolting against the neoliberal capitalist world order by supporting Reform.


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>you are wrong that the alternative would be a NATO escalation, the alternative to seeking peace will be the Ukrainian state collapsing, and the Russian victors dictating what happens then.
I don't see the war propaganda winding down, between the two options a NATO escalation seems more likely. Just because they won't win doesn't mean they won't do it. The U.S. has not technically won a war since the 1940s.

>You are trying to scapegoat the trade unions, the socialists, and so on.

Correct my timeline if it's wrong but "neoliberalism" started with Thatcher in 1981 but British industrial decline and the famous energy blackouts started in the 60s or 70s did it not.

>You are trying to scapegoat the trade unions, the socialists, and so on.

It's not "scapegoat" that's what happened. You can't have a revolution if everything is going great. You have to destabilize things to a point where people are desperate for change. Unfortunately for you the change you got was Thatcher not Corbyn.

>is a capitalist economy and the capitalists are the one's that decide where the surplus of society gets invested

Except industrial action and government policies in the 60s and 70s made it impossible for "capitalists" to turn a profit in the first place so they had nothing to invest. You can't have it both ways your whole worldview is that capitalists are parasites who are nothing without the workers, so what are they supposed to do when the workers stop working. Obviously they all fucked off and found new workers in another part of the world.

>The high energy prices were caused by neo-liberal economic doctrine, they could have chosen to have a public energy sector that invested into nuclear power.

Wasn't Thatcher a trained scientist of course she was pro-nuclear. It is the global warming cult (i.e. Leftists) who have blocked nuclear energy development everywhere in the west.
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>I don't see the war propaganda winding down, between the two options a NATO escalation seems more likely. Just because they won't win doesn't mean they won't do it. The U.S. has not technically won a war since the 1940s.
The US ruling class appears to be loosing interest in the Ukraine war. The Russians want 4 buffer-oblasts and when they got that they'll likely stop. They will probably fuck with the Bandera-politics in the remaining West-Ukraine in some way. Probably spy-shenanigans. Europe can't send troops because that's not politically viable. I see the propaganda stuff as a means to prolong the fighting, and the intention for that is perhaps a vague hope that something unexpected shakes loose, or just to inflict some more war-expenses on Russia. A real war between Nato and Russia means a nuclear war that will collapse civilization.

>It's not "scapegoat" that's what happened.

Nope the economic system is capitalism, that means the capitalists are responsible for what it does. If the capitalists hand over the means of production to the workers than the workers will become responsible.

>Except industrial action and government policies in the 60s and 70s made it impossible for "capitalists" to turn a profit in the first place so they had nothing to invest. You can't have it both ways your whole worldview is that capitalists are parasites who are nothing without the workers, so what are they supposed to do when the workers stop working. Obviously they all fucked off and found new workers in another part of the world.

The systemic function of labor-strikes in social democracy is raising the cost of labor-power to force the capitalists to invest into labor-productivity enhancing technology. If labor is cheap it's not worth investing into new technology that raises labor productivity, because you can always buy more labor-power. However if labor-power is expensive it makes more sense to invest into technology that produces more with the same labor. Lets face it the soc-dems tried to save capitalism from it self.

>Wasn't Thatcher a trained scientist of course she was pro-nuclear.

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Thread dedicated to psychological operations against the leftypol.org administration.

Things to consider:
<The .org mods will read this thread, use this to your advantage
<Posting over your mobile data will arouse less suspicion than over a proxy
<Threads created over an IP with no post history are heavily scrutinized
<Post in /meta/ and try to appeal any mod action against you
<Abuse the report feature
<Use a wide variety of proxy services
<Antagonize individual moderators
<Create as many personas as possible, try to have the mods always chasing a previous persona and not your current one
<The less consistency between the ideological beliefs of your personas the better
<Be consciously aware of your writing style
<Fermenting internal conflict among the mod team is of the upmost importance
<Sow dissent among the userbase whenever possible
<Have fun :)
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Are you guys responsible for the asshole thread?


The left's passion for sodomy and the anus long predates leftychan.


>there's one fag here who spends hours a week making dozens of copypaste flood posts
>any of the mods click one button and delete them
>any users who see the flood posts learn its from this site and dont come here
i dont get it :/


Shut the fuck up you Ogre cuck


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We got spammed by those posts too once (it's a script that gets used against many imageboards) but within a few hours we added the tor captcha and haven't had the problem since. Don't blame your dev team's inability to implement basic features on us. Picrel.


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Why did the Western far-left become the 2SLGBTQRPGMMO+++ rainbow mafia?
It genuinely is perplexing to me that Western leftists seem to hold even the most absurd AGP sex fetish shit and BPD tumblr furry xenogender larping as the most ultimate leftist purity test, yet then will accept literal fucking Capitalists into the movement wihtout hesitation.
I used to think this shit was exaggerated, but it's honestly not, most western leftist spaces are just rainbow mafia/idpol obsessed and you can't push back on even the most absurd, eye rolling narratives, without getting asked to leave, or if online, copping a ban, this includes communities like leftypol(dot)org.
Even holding the same policy positions, as most Communist Parties in the Global South, will get you banned from basically any Westoid "Leftist" space. Leftypol lets you claim Xi is based or whatever, but if you actually espouse his policies, enjoy your ban because it doesn't align with Western Idpol shit.
Why is the Western left like this? Don't they realise that this shit makes them look like absolute pozzed student larping retards to the majority of the working class?
Would most Western "leftists" even want to live in a Working Class led society? They do realise the Working Class is largely soft-Socially Conservative right?
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Your talking about the dramatic increase of identitarianism ?

Identitarian politics aren't new and has persisted in all political camps to some extend
the basic operating principle is
<If you disagree with me, you are attacking me personally.

In contrast to formal logic, where you have statements, and those statements can be true or false for example. These statements are also treated as independent objects, not attached to a person. Extremely dedicated Logicians only have a box that contains all their opinions, and if a opinion is refuted they just remove it from the box and replace it with an updated opinion. It's not possible to make them feel personally attacked. This is why the Vulcans in star trek are the diplomat species. It has to be said that formal logical reasoning also has limitations, that make it impractical as a political philosophy in the real world.

I admit that i do not know what the change in material conditions was that made identitarianism so dominant in recent years.

An obvious factor is influence from the ruling class. They do not want a united working class, they much prefer a crab-bucket of ident-groups fighting among them selves for privileges. That's just a fancy way of saying divide and conquer, and that has existed forever, and doesn't fully explain recent developments. A part of the explanation is missing.

There is a lot of eloquent criticism of the Identitarian phenomenon, but not much that moves beyond critique. So another question arises, what would a political counter tendency look like that sees identities as prisons from which people ought to be liberated.


the Trump shooter appears to be more a neet incel cis straight male than an LGBTQ whatever

the major think that's changed is people insisiting over and over that the left is short haired female twinks when, as fantastic as that sounds, is not the reality on the ground. The left on the ground are just normal people watching people at the national level broadbrush them in a million different ways.




The "far-left" in the Empire never existed outside of ephemeral cells that were immediately snuffed out or re-directed. Every expression of that which was allowed to live was built as a straw man to be knocked down or channel dissenters to entirely useless ends.

The fag mafia is not really part of "political life". It is a very violent anti-politics, intrinsically supplicating to the institutions. When the left made its choice to value the institutions over the people, there was no more "left" at all, anywhere in the world. There was only the Empire, and its right wing vanguardists to tear down all forms of democratic expression. The fags are very much a construct of the right wing, and when you look at "right-wing radicalism" like the Nazis, they're drenched in faggotry hitherto unknown in human history. Fags - and I speak here of fags rather than the homosexual act in of itself - are always going to choose supplication to the state and the ruling institutions, and this is emphasized in every part of the "fag agenda" and the narratives for public consumption. It has always been a weapon of eugenics in particular, and to a lesser extent a defender of the ruling institutions in all circumstances - a call to lock ranks and enforce an anti-democratic lockout.

It's actually funny because if you look at the left and the "free love" types, they were usually far more anti-homosexual and disdained gay men in particular. Gay and bisexual men were seen as inherently treacherous, eunuchs who would ruin anything they touch. The right, historically, has always been strangely tolerant of homosexualism, and aristocrats have always enjoyed an exception to all of this stigma. It's one of the transgressions they celebrate to distinguish them from us, and homosexualism always was an aristocratic vice.

That said, gay men tend to be dissatisfied with the status quo, so they can be drawn into radicalism of the left and right. In faggotry, political alliances are always alliances of convenience. They can wear a swastika or a hammer and sickle and change the slogans, for fags revel in the superficial and disdain any meaning. Gay men in general are, like any men, made to live in conflict and struggle, and they have been told that they must accept relationships and social status that make them live a lie - that their relations are anything other than perversions. In practice, this is all about social stigma and an inroad to MAKE them internalize the alienPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


The people on the ground tend to be ordinary people trying to live, against the vanguard of the institutions who are shouting "DIE DIE DIE" in the open and glorifying the shouting. At this stage of history, "left" and "right" are more historical artifacts than genuine struggle. The left as a genuine political force was repudiated by the two world wars, and it chose to retreat to the institutions. As it did, it embraced all of the shibboleths of the arch-conservatives - retreat to the institutions no matter what, defeat of the people - and the right was propped up as "populist", dominated by the veneer of faggotry. That is Nazism and things like it, and it is common to fascist ideas.


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Masoud Pezeshkian was elected the new president of Iran on Friday. He's reportedly a moderate. What do you think of him? Will he be up to the challenges ahead for Iran, in its struggle against imperialism and Zio-fascist savagery?


I think he'll be open to restoring relations with the US. Although not at the expense of Iran's relations with Russia or China. He'll likely pursue an open foreign policy, but only to the extend it excludes foreign impositions. Basically this is an offer towards the US to choose economically beneficial relations rather than block-confrontation.

Everybody in Iran sees Israel the way Europeans saw Nazi Germany at the end of ww2. Evil and weakened. Basically Israel either gives up its malevolent comportment in the region or it chooses to self destruct with a Lebanon war. In the latter event, Iran would emerge as the uncontested regional hegemon. Israel doesn't have the leverage to get concessions from Iran.

Iran has all the components for building nukes, they're offering to remain a non-nuclear power as long as Israel doesn't threaten them with nukes.

From the perspective of the west this is the best deal we'll get. And the price is exceptionally cheap: bully Israel to turn down the belligerency-knob.




Didn't Gaddafi increasingly demilitarize toward the end of his life? We saw what happened to Libya.


>Didn't Gaddafi increasingly demilitarize toward the end of his life?
Qaddafi gave up on Libya's nuclear weapons program. And that likely did shorten his life.

The golden path would have been to max the pursuit of a Pan African Union, and make Libya the center of an African block, that played all the other power off each other. He'd have gotten nuke-technology and imported industrial development out of that.


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the world works on looks. looks are important. we human will always fully think and associate people with lighter skin color as looking better, better to look at, and is more beautiful/pretty/handsome.
we all also associate lighter skin color with being more feminine for women consider feminine. we can never change this. not a single thing anyone do and say will ever change this. you can never change how people think like this. man or women everybody think like this.

now then have and obvious answer. for the sake of use call it the “Blond Path". we need to produce white people with blue eyes and green eyes and blond hair and ginger hair. the quota would be 10 times the world population including the world population of whites with natural color hair and eyes. To do this we ignore or erase things that are a hindrance such as marriage, monogamy, family unit, relationship, and romance. Production does not stop there, we also need to group ethnic whites together with the same ethnic whites (Ex: Scotts with Scotts, serbs with serbs, and etc). Although this one is of a different program. This program also require us to get rid of the same hindrance the former program have. Both program do not see heigh, body or looks. As long as your face are not horrendous you are good, so even if your not handsome and beautiful you will still be in the program.

As part of the Blond path and to prevent dehumanization and other such unwanted idea,we will educate people. Specifically we will tell them about that one zoning infrastructure real-estate thing (I forgot the name of it) that put black and brown people in place were the chemicals,paint ,water ,walls and environment in general are doing things to their head (mind and brain) and body. In general everybody need to be educated about racist laws and myth and other such things. Other then that we need to eliminate race science and race bias in science.

In short. The world need to have industry level production of ethnic whites and more importantly whites with blue eyes, green eyes, blond hair and red hair because the world work on looks. But we also educate people so they don’t believe in race science and race biased science.

we must advertise this to every rightoid, boomers, and whites.

I am speaking as a brown.
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Wtf who're you xir this is something straight out of baby factory or what


ah yes, my fellow based and redpilled schizophrenic(s).


I assure you I suffer no mental , nor psychological disorders . But you on the other hand might be . Hating your own skin , your own kind , your own tribe just because they made fun of your head containing 2 brains mass . Such a pity . I'm at least non less , in constant becoming into what the cosmos will be . While no futur for you or the likes of you have anything to partake in . I was actually looking for a clue about this and I found it . So humble yourself and come close or whatever dude . This comment is for the writer of that first text. Not for any newbies here .


I don't mean offense 😅 anyway . I'm your fan your work throughout the history is fascinating. If anything is happening in reality it always has it's causal reasons so anyway life is life and it is what it is . Please do accept my friendship invitation on telegram . Xoxo . If I'm redpilled schizophrenic it'd be fun talking to me 😉


Another day another conspiracy theorist gone completely mad . How the fuck you can control 8 billions of breeding people like how do you control each individual's choices and thoughts


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Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.

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Bellingcat's original founding purpose was attempting to manufacture Russian culpability in the Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 disaster.


Didn't the Azov battalion do something similar to a theater in Mariupol?


>Bellingcat's original founding purpose was attempting to manufacture Russian culpability in the Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 disaster.
Thanks for sharing, i had already forgotten what had spawned it.

>Didn't the Azov battalion do something similar to a theater in Mariupol?
There were so many Azov horror stories, i mussed have missed this particular episode.


school was hit but it was full of combatants probably. ukrops do that. they film themselves doing that.


>school was hit but it was full of combatants probably. ukrops do that. they film themselves doing that.
I guess that if a empty school building is garrisoned by combatants it would be technically legal to destroy it.

However it's probably not worth the trade offs. Your intel could be wrong, and it's civilians hiding in it. Also if you can keep the municipal buildings intact, it'll be much easier to rebuild after the war. From a tactics point of view it's not necessarily a disadvantage. If the other side figures out that you spare certain types of buildings, they're likely going to seek those out as shelter. And it means those buildings can be a lure for intercepting troops trying to get to it. If there are already troops sheltering inside, they'll be stranded as in everything around the protected building is lava. That's a good way to tie up enemy combat forces. You just need to leave one spotter that can call in an airstrike the moment enemy forces try to leave.


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I upgraded the software and it seems to be chillin'


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Thoughts on 'bad manners' in videogames? Is it accelerationist to be bad mannered or is it neo-feudalist supestructure pathology manifested?


How do you draw the line between bad manners and "being an asshole"?


There is no line. I only do things I can be proud of in non-hentai games. In hentai games open season.
This isn't for some moral reason, but rather because I feel too guilty to have fun being bad in normal games, but being bad makes me cum harder than I feel guilty.

Guilt is probably good, it's extremely limiting and conservative, but I don't see a better way not to hurt people.


As long as directed towards the other team it's OK by me.


>Thoughts on 'bad manners' in videogames?
Not sure what you mean with this, but manners only exist in relation to sentient people. You can't be rude to a program. At least not yet.

>Is it accelerationist to be bad mannered or is it neo-feudalist supestructure pathology manifested?

This is intriguing, were feudalists bad mannered ?


>Is it accelerationist
Not quite. Even if you'll manage 2 bully some fag out of this particular game xir could just move 2 1other.
Also, as any m*rxist you should always remember th@ actively being a fucking retard shapes you into a fucking retard, so don't be just a stupid uyghur faggot without any purpose 2 it. It's ok to be against the cuckitalist society, it's not ok to be antisocial in general either you slid into tranarchism.


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All right can someone explain why the hell there aren't more death race games? I've never been able to understand this. Why would I want to settle for kiddie kart racing where no one ever dies when I could strap guns to my vehicle and kill everyone in front of me?

It's always baffled me why there's a whole bunch of car combat games taking place in an arena, but nobody wants to combine the idea with racing. What gives?


>why the hell there aren't more death race games?
Are you sure ? Have you checked all the indie game makers ?

>Why would I want to settle for kiddie kart racing

It's the same game mechanic though.

There's a spaceship racing game which is somewhat popular. It has interesting maps that blend atmospheric and space obstacle courses. It also has various game modes with "strapon guns". I think it's open source and has fancy graphics as well. But i can't remember the name, sorry.


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Just remembered I played this like a billion years ago.

Also do kart racing games count? I guess that's where the genre went.


>I played this
what game is that ?


didn't see the game title was in the image file name


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sportsbay dot dk
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the reason the irish lost is to show their dedication to anti-angloism and their anti-colonial cause


you mean the scottish? doesnt matter anglos will always be incapable of doing shit in the euros


no i was referring to when ireland lost vs portugal


thoughts on the eurocup?



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Probably same shit for electronic viewfinders on digital cameras, but it's not as intense and constant.


LMAO imagine SAO-players waking up from their shit to have literal blindness


They spy on you AND they ruin your eyes.


NOOO, this can't be happening! What about my escapism and virtual companionship?!


[it's been] 4 fucking years, you massive autistiche faggot


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Grad degrees are legit if you have a field with A LOT of information. The higher you go the more specific stuff you learn.

The deal is that getting a BA is kind of exactly like high school. You take the same range of classes and don't focus on much. So, it's like a movie that starts an hour in.

Back in the 30s etc you could become a doctor in like four years, now it takes 12 and doctors don't know that much. I mean a general practitioner.

If a four year degree was specialized, you would not need a masters.

In psychology, they try to wear you out with all you must do. So, it's a money hustle and to keep people out.


>I think it's pathetic
Okay, but what is science? I haven't heard an answer from this guy, just a critique. I just finished a long book, The Invention of Science, that pretty persuasively argues that some of things that distinguished the new discipline of science in the Renaissance from previous methods was the emphasis on experimentation, reproducibility, and testing/verification. You have to have a community where people publish their work and read the work of others in order to accomplish these things. Simply coming up with an idea is not science. People invented or discovered many things in history before the idea of science was realized, it doesn't mean they were secretly doing science. Science isn't simply the acquisition of new knowledge, it's a particular method of doing it. There are some strong critiques of the modern peer review institutions that can be made, but if you throw out the very idea of a community you don't really have science anymore.


This is reasonable, but you can still have group-bias within a community. Science needs to be open to the hole of society.


>experimentation, reproducibility, and testing/verification
Oh yeah I missed one. Perhaps the most important thing to accomplishing the rest of these was publishing your methodology. This is what for example distinguished the new science of chemistry from the old woo of alchemy. Alchemy books often attempted to hide their made-up bullshit behind a veil of extremely arcane esoterica and this paradoxically enhanced their credulity in the read by through the allure of secret, forbidden knowledge. There was a very conscious and deliberate demand by new institutions dedicated to the advancement of chemistry that whenever someone wanted to publish in their journals they had to describe their methodology to a sufficient degree that others could reproduce their results.

If someone is unwilling to publish or barred from publishing their findings (this is where the critique of institutionalized publishing arises), others have no means of reproducing them and you cannot establish a scientific process.


>Alchemy books often attempted to hide their made-up bullshit behind a veil of extremely arcane esoterica and this paradoxically enhanced their credulity in the read by through the allure of secret, forbidden knowledge. There was a very conscious and deliberate demand by new institutions dedicated to the advancement of chemistry that whenever someone wanted to publish in their journals they had to describe their methodology to a sufficient degree that others could reproduce their results.
They went from trust me bro to show me bro


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Hello, Im a graffiti writer, Im interested in using my skills to make some anti-Zionist art here in the heart of the imperialist machine. Is there a way to make a completely anonymous IG acct and Website so that I can post photos of my work without getting caught? Obviously graffiti is illegal but anti-Israeli graffiti is going to attract much more attention. How do I cover my digital tracks?


I guess the correct way to handle something like this was to let other people discover your art and let word of mouth do the work. At least assuming you got artistic talent and skill, that'll happen naturally. I may be wrong but the culture of graffiti artisans has always been about avoiding personal fame and not tell anybody. Graffiti-culture developed before the internet and it was a sort of a local artistic exchange.

If your main goal is to put stuff on the internet you can just use plywood as a canvas. You can remove that after you're done taking pictures.

If you really want to irk Zionists, you should jump through all the necessary bureaucratic hoops to get the official stamp of approval for displaying your artworks. That'll make it really hard for them to have your stuff removed. And they might even fail all-together and your stuff will stay up.


That's a good question.
You could have a friend register a website for you in their name. That would work, and it would be more anonymous than registering it yourself. I think there are ways to technically register websites anonymously, too, but that seems to be pretty rare, and I'm not sure how.

With instagram… you could use a friend's phone or perhaps get a burner phone without your name on it. It's been a bit since I've bought a phone, I'm not sure how you'd do that. It does really suck that many big social media sites, like instagram, require that sort of info, now. I remember when none of them did. It's kinda classist, frankly.


In the meantime you can post some of your work here over Tor or I2P, those are both technologies that hide your IP address from the website. If you are careful and remove Exif data from your pictures that's the most anonymous you can be with current technology.


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This is exactly the kind of shit that's holding the left back.

>I don't think we can expect <minority> to team up with a bigot…

Actually that's exactly what communists must demand. And we must demand the reverse of this too: bigots must team up with minorities they claim to hate.

Workers aren't responsible for minorities' grievances, the bourgeoisie class is. When no one can put food on the table, the fact that you're offended isn't going to change this.

I don't know who needs to hear this but quit acting like a bunch of snowflakes, hetero-normative whites included. Just shut the fuck up. Organize. And squash the rich. It's really that simple.
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first person is germanic. second person is not. case closed


>What about actual tanks?
Maybe you don't grasp the communist mindset with regards to industrial warfare.
The main unit is a battle factory, what you call a tank is a component.
Designing a tank-component has as priority:
crew survive-ability,
ease of production,
combat cost efficiency,
repair-ability, recyclability and interoperability with other components or modularity

It would look like any other industrial component optimized by statistics, bereft of aesthetics. The only concession to sentiment is making it fun to operate, so that tank crews like training on it.

These days funding tends to go towards expensive stylish-gadget-tanks, as self contained units, and the design priority is making profits for the arms-industry. This is almost diametrically opposed to the above.


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>Go on Hexbear.net
>First picrel is the second post on the front page
>Hexbear goes down for a bit so they make second picrel on Lemmygrad which makes it to the front page too

But how could trans be one of the MOST TALKED ABOUT THINGS? Why is it SO IMPORTANT?

Will transhumanism

<help unify the working class

<help stop the climate crisis
<help stop wars
<help me get a job or lower my rent?

I'm not shitting on trans people, be whatever you wanna be but if leftists want to win a class war they are going to have to justify spending that much time talking about sex, gender and race for that matter.


Yeah the left should be laser focused on class, but try telling that to the idpol brains that make up most of the modern "left".


>Leftists are middle class degens not interested in advancing the interests of working people
Always been and always will be


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“The Court effectively creates a law-free zone around the President, upsetting the status quo that has existed since the Founding,” Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor wrote. “When the president uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution. Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."


I mean, this is pretty much the definitional opposite of "left wing". This is a mostly right-wing country by law now.
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>I'd do nothing about the political situation, and would not consider it in any calculation.

>I haven't for a long time, because politics does not work to give people nice things like you seem to believe for these narratives to work.

I don't believe that.

>and they were destroyed by the avarice of the middle class and their desire to kick down to get ahead. You people did more to hurt me than those at the top, who are happy to let you be their hatchetmen.

Does the American middle class even exist?
Picrel. Which part is the middle class? This looks like two classes.




The middle class kept doing it to themselves, and weren't allowed to say no. They cling to some distinction to say "at least we're not retarded", and that's all they will have. You will own nothing - not less, nothing. That's always been the goal, and it's right in front of your face. Why does anyone pretend it is anything else?

That's why you faggots make me so sick.



stfu uygha, should take this chance and become king. it's every man for him self.


Apes together stronk



The brain chip company has successfully implanted a brain chip into a person. It's a paraplegic and this allows this person to thought-control their wheel-chair and even do high fidelity computer inputs (good enough for playing games)

At this time the brain chip is one way communication only, only relaying thought-commands from the brain to external devices, but nothing flows back into the brain. But if this thing is going to become the tech that fixes most handicaps it will have to become 2 way communication. And there are serious worries about it becoming a attack vector for brain-hacking. If brain chips were free open source technology, protected by a very diligent community, and absolute brain privacy was vigorously enforced (as in death penalty for brain privacy violations), that probably would mitigate risks enough though.

For able people this promises hands-free computing. I suspect people would not undergo brain surgery to get this unless they need it to fix a handicap. Because of the medical risks and it eventually turning into obsolete e-waste rattling in your skull.

This thing uses thousands of wires connected to electrodes directly stuck inside the brain. So people who have this implanted, probably become vulnerable to electromagnetic fields. Getting an MRI scan is probably off the table. Humans generally are not affected by magnetic fields, even extremely powerful ones. Hence why there is lots of technological EM in the human environment. People who get the brain chip would have to be even more careful than those who have a pacemaker. Nukes produce a big EM pulse, so the brain-chipped people will die first in WW3. Safety wise this really would benefit from optical data links that electrically isolate the brain.

Whats the real world application going to be ?
My hunch is it'll get used for medical and military purposes (soldiers thinking what their shoulder cannon shoots at)
If the functionality can be replicated with a wearable headband/cap it might enter general use, but if it's surgical implants only, it'll remain a niche.

vid not related


>This thing uses thousands of wires connected to electrodes directly stuck inside the brain.

So we should expect the same problem of the body forming scar tissue around the foreign body and attenuating the signal fed to the electrodes that occurred the last however many times this was tried.

No real breakthrough here, just PR hype.


>So we should expect the same problem of the body forming scar tissue around the foreign body and attenuating the signal fed to the electrodes that occurred the last however many times this was tried.
That's a good point.

>No real breakthrough here, just PR hype.

Yeah i guess to get around the scarring issue they'd have to find a way to measure the electrical pulses in the brain without contact. But these pulses are extremely faint and make hardly any detectable EM fields. Dis a tough one


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So according to you in socialist countries people get mental health treatment and in capitalism they get homelessness and crack, am I getting that right?


Sounds about right. But it's not the hole story. The main cause of homelessness isn't mental illness. It's economic precariousness.


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Return the jacket back to the museum 1st, you reactionary lumpen bueraucuck (served you right btw).


>I enjoy democracy
No you don't. Democracy means Tr*mp will be the next president.

>the rule of law

No you don't. Rule of law means all the BLM monkeys will be in jail.

>freedom of speech

No you don't. Freedom of speech means there's no such thing as "misgendering" or "medical misinformation".

>and freedom of association.

No you don't. Freedom of association means no more hiring diversity.

>most capitalist countries allow the non-productive poor to exist unlike most socialist countries, where they are forced into mental hospitals or jails
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That's gonna b3 a yikes from me dawg.


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Is there a reason that they seem to only hire chronically asshurt middle aged people? They make you feel like dirt when asking to pick up a pizza. None of them seem to want to be there.Very rare to see a teen employed at any Costco.

Why the fuck do I need to pay Costco a membership fee to shop there just to deal with some pissed off wage earner (Union no less) in order to maybe save a buck or two on large quantity consumable goods?

Small to commercial business usually have a supplier that beats Costco for what they need. Individuals and households with a brain understand that bulk needs can be met by something like a Walmart or even Home Depot.

Why the fuck would any human with an ounce of self worth want to piss away a couple hours minimum just to shop at Costco? Idiocracy made fun of this damn near two decades ago and it's more true than ever.

BTW - the rotisserie chickens are shit now and it's not because of the package change. Fuck Costco.



The U.S. military ran a secret anti-vaccination campaign at the height of the pandemic in the Philippines and other nations to sow doubt about COVID vaccines made by China, according to a new investigation by Reuters. The clandestine Pentagon campaign, which began in 2020 under Donald Trump and continued into mid-2021 after Joe Biden took office, relied on fake social media accounts on multiple platforms to target local populations in Southeast Asia and beyond. The campaign also aimed to discredit masks and test kits made in China. "Within the Pentagon, within Washington, there was this fear that they were going to lose the Philippines" to Chinese influence, says Joel Schectman, one of the Reuters reporters who broke the story. Schectman says that while it's impossible to measure the impact of the propaganda effort, it came at a time when the Chinese-made Sinovac shot was the only one available in the Philippines, making distrust of the vaccine "incredibly harmful."


>The campaign also aimed to discredit masks and test kits made in China. "Within the Pentagon, within Washington, there was this fear that they were going to lose the Philippines" to Chinese influence.

Did it ever occur to these people that what they were doing was going to discredit the US and push the Philippines towards China.


No, and tbf they were probably right not to expect that.
When that happens, it'll probably be because of even worse stuff.


>No, and tbf they were probably right not to expect that.
why ?
Are they so arrogant that they think that they're above it all, that their manipulations aren't being accounted for by other countries ? Even if they think the Filipino government can't penetrate US psy-ops the Chinese government almost certainly can and is likely to tip off the countries the US fucks with.
>When that happens, it'll probably be because of even worse stuff.
It kinda depends, the Filipino government may ask the question, what if this had been one of those terrible plagues that wipes out half the population unless people get vaxed. At the very least there is now uncertainty about the level of belligerency they ought to expect from the US.


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When will dorky millenial online activists and state sanctioned leftist influencers (i.e., teachers with twink tok accounts) realize they are making the right seem cool?

Think about it: a lot of hate that vegans receive isn't because people are overly hostile to eating vegetables. It's because vegans themselves brand themselves in a negative light: emotional, effeminate, weak, etc. Additionally, many younger people will naturally rebel against the professed values of the generation ahead of them. When will those who vehemently consider themselves part of the left realize they're actually helping to boost those they claim to oppose?

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It wasn't impossible to "stop capitalism", as if this just happened by anonymous inertia. Throughout their history, the commons were seeking to enter the nobility, and that's what purchasing venal office was. The professions of the commoners that won in the liberal revolutions were already attaining the privileges of the nobility, and the commoners were not a united bloc with a singular ideology as such. It's the same with the ideologies as such of their associations like the Jacobin club and the secret societies. These outfits weren't united by an ideology or a singular thought-form, but were associations of men who climbed the ranks of that social hierarchy. There were liberal nobles who saw the revolution as a way to carry out their intercine struggle in new conditions, if we speak of France. How this worked in England and America is a very different story.


The ancien regime falls because the agents who would have maintained it saw no reason to continue it. There is a long trajectory of feudal privileges being displaced by the autocratic and despotic tendencies of the 16th-18th centuries, and that trend line didn't really go away with "revolution". It rebranded, found entry into the new way of doing things, and the game of musical chairs settled in the early 19th century.

The revolutions themselves all stem from 1776 in one way or another, and what the British Empire was aiming for to take the world, and their piratical approach to their Empire.


By time Louis XVI is there, he's a weak king, and doesn't have the heart for intrigue in him. Some would say he was a decent human being by the standards of his class, which doesn't say much, but mostly, the nobility were already distressed with the situation and the games played with the wealth of the nation - like entering the American Rebellion for spurious reasons that are the great "open mystery" of the period, which explains a lot of what was really happening and is a favorite of the conspiracist theory of history. This event was not self-contained in an ecosystem and then reproduced by "the theory". France faced conflict from the aristocratic order of Europe who were remarkably disinterested in the wages of war until they started losing and the French installed republics or kings of their choosing, and this was always understood as putting a rubber stamp on the effort to conquer Europe. At this time, no one but the French thinks of themselves as "national actors", and French nationalism is a new thing with the revolution. That was the thing that they really had to contain, and the most lasting effect of it.


If you look at how the French monarchy understood economics, they had their theory before the revolution, and the revolution wasn't really waged over economic ideas. The liberalizing tendency had more to do with the interests of actors in France and globally, then any belief that liberalism worked like magic. There was a theory of physiocracy, but the thing with them is that the physiocrats were more in line with the ancien regime than a naive faith in free trade. What the physiocrats wrote about was a precursor to both the idea of a planned economy - a precursor to the socialist idea - and a precursor to biological politics and biologically centered economic thought, using the example of economic life and the land as an organism with blood flows that could be regulated. That was what Quesnay invoked, due to his background as a physician.


All of these things are very interesting if you dig into them, and that's why I disdain these grand narratives that are divorced from history that can be independently verified. Any political event involves the agency of those things in the world that have the greatest stake in it - human beings, and particular human beings.

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