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 No.485034[Reply]

Just 9-10 years ago Reddit was campaign central for Bernie Sanders. Now if you advocate for a left-wing presidential candidate they'll downvote you so much that Reddit's algorithm bans you from the platform.

And not just Reddit, Jill Stein and Cornel West have *terrible* net favorability polling (-16), in every single net favorability poll. The only candidate who ever had worse net favorability was Trump after J6.

I don't really buy the spoiler argument either, the left-wing candidates positions are very far from Harris. Sometimes Democrats will claim they are the last defenders of the American welfare state, but I can't see any of it left, public housing is only open in my area 2 hours per decade.
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 No.485106

>>485093
>the bourgeois response to that was to purge Bernie supporters and leftists in general from reddit
</r/BernieSanders
</r/SandersForPresident
</r/antiwork
</r/marxism
All alive and kicking. The only people where ever a real threat to the reddit shareholders and were actually purged from the platform were Trump supporters and /r/The_Donald
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 No.485110

>>485067
>communist central bank
Oh it's retarded.
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 No.485112

>That's not what's happening. Prices go up because the government is spending way more money than it has and the deficit is filled in by creating new money out of nothing. Anybody with a brain trades their government tokens for hard assets like real estate to avoid getting fucked by inflation. If the value of money was stable then owning property for no reason would be nothing but a liability and supply would open up to people who actually use the property.
Kek. Libertarians are smarter than basically anything this sub produces and they're kooky. You know the government can just allow more housing and those investments are poof and those investment aren't as reliable as it would seem and a cursory search and first gen immigrants have not been more likely to be imprisoned since 1880. Word salad =/= rational argument.
Then left wingers saying increase in immigration (supply) decreases wages (price) ignoring the ceteris paribus part of the law. I guess I can also be a billionaire if I'm the only one on say one of the military bases China is building in the Spratlys but it's not looking like any of the soldiers there are millionaires. Left wing and right wing horseshoe turds on the internet sure are interesting.
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 No.485113

I sure do hope that the leftwingers engage smartly (doubt) with the guy who think all sources are propaganda outside "obvious" "sources" like peeing on the public toilet floor is more popular than at home in an obvious case of projection. I'd just be disappointed. This mistaken perception of a source, I wouldn't brand you as having understood basic economics and history. The peeing in a public bathroom guy would just be branded wrong as seen from his lack of basic understanding of immigration economics. (which isn't an argument btw and something you like to do.)
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 No.485114

It's as if I can live in la la land and pretend ceteris paribus doesn't exist. Ha! I can't let go. Maybe I'm part of the brainrot system. Replace capitalist with brainrot, maybe a more passable view.

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 No.621[Reply]

Anyone here whom is in the minority that prefers work over school?
Work may suck but at least you dont have to deal with bullies and being broke or absurd rules from teachers.
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 No.635

>>633
>The principles apply as before, we have to assume nothing is for granted and then build in mechanisms that prevent this from being turned into child-labor even if other parts of society go to shit.
The first thing is children who perform this have to be payed a regular wage. And each activity has to be limited to the time-span it takes for learning a skill. And we're giving children the power to declare the work as exploitative and quit without consequences.


Thepoint of community service is both learning and child labor.
And yes, kids will be paid a reasonable wage and nothing beyond their means.
Again, It will only be for twelve to fourteen weeks (first week of March thru the second week of June) with Friday off.

Child labor within itself isnt bad.
Ironically, the view of children as invakids that need protection and representation from parents is what makes them vulnerable.

Most child abuse is due to family dysfunction.
The way society views kids as biological property of parents and criminlise childrens social autonomy is why we have delayed maturity.

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 No.636

>>634
>private companies will only pay the smartest and hardworking
>the ones most likely to get a return on investment
The premise in this argument is that returns on investment depend on how "smart and hardworking" the workers are.
That conveniently leaves out the capitalist or the managerial cast as a factor in failure or success.

The thing is if you are skilled at organizing a work-place, you'll be able to get good results with actually existing people. Not some kind of hypothetical ideal unicorn worker. This is like an architect that complains that steel and cement are not infinitely strong building materials. Or a farmer that says he needs magic multiplication beans to get a good harvest.

Companies that complain about their workers, suck at business and they are deflecting blame.

>>inb4 add diversity quotas
Socialists only ever used proletarian-quotas to make sure most political positions got staffed by actual workers.
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 No.637

>>635
If your argument is that making children partake in regular work activities because you think that is a learning experience that modern schools lack, i can see your point. Keep in mind that i want to pay children for learning stuff or gaining skills, not for doing labor.

However if your argument is that people have to give more time to the economy, by making them work during childhood. You loose me completely.

The only way an economy grows is because better technology enables better tools that allows people to do more in less time.

Making people work longer is not a valid strategy. Human labor has to be a scarce resource in order to make the system adopt new tools. If people work longer that means human labor becomes less scarce, and the pressure to get better tools goes down. That's how you get a shitty stagnating economy.

We have seen this happening, the neo-liberals drove down wages, labor power got a lot cheaper, and investment into productivity enhancing tools went down, it became possible to just hire more people instead of figuring out new and better tools to get more work done within less time.
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 No.638

>>637
Why not both?
Children will be paid for learning on the job while also contributing to the economy.

Also, neoliberalism works by overselling loans.
People are entering the workforce at a much later age than historically possible, and we have more advanced tech compared to a few centuries ago amd wages are still nil relative to quality to life. And people are expected to do more stuff in a smaller unit of time thanks to he hype about automation.

Irony is, the onl way for one to survive their twenties economically is to start work at age thirteen.

But thats not what Im really aiming for.
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 No.639

>>638
It doesn't make economic sense to make children work, capitalists only want that because they think it will increase labor competition and lower wages.

It's likely that birth-rates would go down even more if parents see that the economy tries to eat their children. So it's also demographically risky.

Lastly the experience of child-labor in the past was really bad, like absolutely atrocious. That alone is reason enough to never try that again. We got burned too bad.

IMHO currently automation is done wrong. The goal usually is to use technology to replace workers. Economically it would work out a lot better if we tried to use technology to augment workers. The latter is easier from a technical perspective, because it's easier to make a tool to be wielded by a person than make a machine that does everything the person previously did.

Basically automation by augmentation represent smaller technological steps and you reach productivity benefits sooner. It has the same destination so that eventually most or all work is done by machines, but the path for getting there is less steep.

The capitalists buy automation because they want to save on labor costs. That's why they want replacement-automation. The augmenting-automation has as goal to make the workers you have more productive. Capitalists could also benefit from that, but i don't know if you can convince them to change their perspective.

So automation has the potential to be great.

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 No.7573[Reply]

the holodohoax did not happen. it's a complete lie. it have vague description and changes description every time.

give me things that help me get the message to people that it have vague description and that it changes description every time. post copypasta, papers, books, your own writings, websites, videos, debunks, and etc.
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>>7602
A lot didn't and you can probably go find a different URL if you were so inclined.
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>>7592
>some of the website linked can't be opened or is no longer there
help
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 No.7801

>>7592
< The 1932 Harvest and the Famine of 1933 by Mark Tauger
< Natural Disaster and Human Actions in the Soviet Famine of 1931-1933 by Mark Tauger
where is the links for these?
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>>7801
Just checked my files, those links are missing there too. My guess would be linkrot.
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 No.7813

I can't archive anything because of OCD symptoms. Can anybody do the archiving for the pages? Or put links directing to an already existing archive of the unavailable pages? And the likes?

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Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.


Pro-Russia sources:
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https://nitter.net/mdfzeh
https://nitter.net/AZmilitary1
https://nitter.net/wargonzoo
https://nitter.net/TheHumanFund5
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/vorposte

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>>485085
>What terrible thing do they think is going to happen if the war ends with Putin controlling all of Ukraine?
For the proles in the west it might be beneficial, because it would mean the fighting ends and there's one less battle to burn public funding on.
For the small and medium capitalists it might also have an upside because they realize their profits in the consumer commodity market. Which always shrinks when military spending goes up.
For the big imperial capitalists it's obviously going to be a loss because they could not expand into Ukraine to loot resources and super-exploit the population.

>>485096
>From a Ukrainian POV, it would still be bad though. It would end the war as we know it, but it would also result in decades of permanent low-intensity conflict.
This has always happened during the various US occupations, but i'm not sure if that logic applies here.

The US primarily bombs from the air, and that means all the fighters can hide in holes, and wait out the air-campaign, and then make an insurgency afterwards.

The Russians fought an attrition ground war, that is a different beast. I don't think there would be many "ukro-rebel-fighters" left over to make an insurgency, when this is done. The Russians will probably go after the Bandera types, because they consider that as unfinished business from WW2.

In case you meant it as a power-vacuum causing a struggle for power and a civil war. That can happen, but Ukraine likely isn't going to go that way. It's located in a strategic position between big power blocks, so it's very likely that as soon as one government falls another one gets installed right away. Ukraine might get carved up and then there could be multiple new governments.
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 No.485105

>>485100
>For the big imperial capitalists it's obviously going to be a loss because they could not expand into Ukraine to loot resources and super-exploit the population.
Why didn't they loot and "super-exploit" Ukraine before the war started then? They are never going to take back the lost land it is obvious they want to war to continue because the war itself is where the profit is.
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 No.485108

>>485105
>Why didn't they loot and "super-exploit" Ukraine before the war started then?
Imperial capital isn't actually that potent by it self, if they have to compete with other capitalists they're not getting imperial super-profits, only regular profits. They needed the Ukrainian state to enforce imperial monopolies and repress the population. The Ukrainian state didn't go for that, they tried to make economic deals with Russian capitalists and a bunch of others who would settle for regular profits.

That's when the regime change program started. Bandera-fascism was basically attempting to become a comprador-elite with enforcer-goons that would divide the population into a small-ish section of people who would be exempt from super-exploitation in exchange for repressing the rest of the population. That's the purpose of all the discrimination shit along religious and ethnic lines. All the shelling of residential areas and so on. That's why you get parts in Eastern Ukraine splitting off like Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk. That's them saying fuck that we're not yours to sell out.

>They are never going to take back the lost land it is obvious they want to war to continue because the war itself is where the profit is.
They probably genuinely thought that the sanctions-squeeze plus the military-expenses would force Russia to yield Ukraine and eventually cause Russia to balkanize. That's why they did provoke a major escalation into the realm of big military hard-power, because they thought they were going to force another neo-liberal shock-doctrine on Russia and make bank like in the 1990s.
The war-profits they are making now is just an internal wealth transfer in the west, they're not bringing in any new wealth from the outside. They are not just harming western workers with that, they're also killing the majority of small and medium capitalists. That's not a viable system, that's the system eating it self.
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 No.485109

>>485108
>That's when the regime change program started. Bandera-fascism was basically attempting to become a comprador-elite with enforcer-goons that would divide the population into a small-ish section of people who would be exempt from super-exploitation in exchange for repressing the rest of the population. That's the purpose of all the discrimination shit along religious and ethnic lines. All the shelling of residential areas and so on. That's why you get parts in Eastern Ukraine splitting off like Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk. That's them saying fuck that we're not yours to sell out.
You're just making things up. The east broke away after the president they voted for was overthrown and replaced with a pro-NATO/pro-EU alternative in 2014.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Donbas_status_referendums

>That's not a viable system, that's the system eating it self.
They've been doing it since WW2. Clearly the system is working for someone.
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 No.485111

>>485109
>The east broke away after the president they voted for was overthrown and replaced with a pro-NATO/pro-EU alternative in 2014.
Yes the guy that was overthrown tried to make trade agreements with Russia and others. Which meant that Ukraine was trying to play investors from all sides against each other to get a good deal, hence negating the potential for locking in an imperial monopoly. That's why he was overthrown.

>You're just making things up.
Dude we mostly agree.

>They've been doing it since WW2. Clearly the system is working for someone.
Yeah but it seems different now.

They made bad imperial bets before, but on the hole imperialism always payed off, mind you not for the working class, but for the capitalists. I don't think that's the case anymore. I think they made an imperial deficit because of the Ukraine quagmire. All the imperial stuff they did before never had a clear and direct negative impact on the domestic economy in the west, there only were minor disturbances. This time it clearly did. You can clearly see it, they activated the sanctions against Russia and with some delay as the effects work their way through the economic networks, it impacts on the western domestic economy with significant damage. I think they planned that looting Ukraine's resources would more than offset this. Some of the strategy papers i've seen even planned for a broken up Russia being forced into selling off assets for cheap. And that clearly never happened.

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One Year of Genocide

Continued from >>483169

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 42,000. With over 10,000 missing, it's expected that current estimates are lower than the actual death toll, and excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

Hamas political leader and negotiator Ismail Haniyeh was killed in Tehran by an Israeli bombing.

Israel sabotaged the international supply chain to put bombs in 3,000 pagers and other electronic devices in Lebanon, resulting in thousands of injuries and several deaths, in a major blow to both Hezbollah and the Lebanese civilian population.

Israel launched an ongoing series of carpet bombings of the Lebanese capital of Beirut, killing several high-ranking Hezbollah commanders. A strike dubbed "Operation New Order" which used 80 2,000 lb bombs took out several blocks of apartment buildings and killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on September 27, and also killed an IRGC commander.

In early October, Israel began launching ground invasions of south Lebanon, which are ongoing and have met resistance. Thousands have been killed, and over a million displaced.

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Israeli army demolished UNIFIL observation tower in southern Lebanon

An Israeli army bulldozer “deliberately” demolished an observation tower and perimeter fence of a UN position in Marwahin, southern Lebanon, UN peacekeeping mission UNIFIL said in a statement.

“Yet again, we note that breaching a UN position and damaging UN assets is a flagrant violation of international law and Security Council resolution 1701,” read a statement. “It also endangers the safety and security of our peacekeepers in violation of international humanitarian law.”

The incident is the latest in a series of attacks against UN bases in southern Lebanon as the Israeli army is pressuring the peacekeepers to leave their positions.

“Despite the pressure being exerted on the mission and our troop-contributing countries, peacekeepers remain in all positions. We will continue to undertake our mandated tasks to monitor and report,” UNIFIL said.

In Jabalia, Israeli forces ‘detained all men and warned women to leave’

The Israeli military siege of northern Gaza, now in its 16th day, continues with access to food, water, medicine and vital services cut off for an estimated 400,000 trapped residents.

Some of them say they have been separated from their families after Israeli soldiers stormed their shelters and detained dozens of men.
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87 people killed or missing in Beit Lahiya: Health Ministry

A total of 87 people have been killed or are missing under debris after an Israeli attack on the town in northern Gaza, according to the Palestinian enclave’s Health Ministry.

More than 40 others were injured, it added. The Israeli military said it is checking on the report.

Israeli forces have conducted a large-scale incursion in northern Gaza as they also destroy residential buildings in air and artillery attacks and carry out mass arrests, with tens of thousands of people stuck there.

Fatah says far-right Israeli government ‘fully responsible’ for Beit Lahiya ‘massacre’

Fatah has issued a statement saying it holds “the Israeli occupation government fully responsible for the bloody massacre” in northern Gaza’s Beit Lahiya, Wafa reports.

Fatah, which controls the Palestinian Authority and has partial administrative power in the occupied West Bank, called on “the world” to help “stop the systematic Israeli war of extermination” in Gaza, Wafa reported, adding it was a Zionist conspiracy to displace Palestinians from their land.

“Palestinian people are being subjected to an organised war of extermination led by the far-right government in Israel with the utmost criminality and hatred,” Fatah added.
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https://x.com/artistsagainst_/status/1848151277345411291
HAPPENING NOW: Kamala Harris Jazz Fundraiser in NYC disrupted by Artists Against Apartheid!

We are outraged at the use of the revolutionary tradition of jazz to fundraise for Kamala Harris, who has continued to fund genocide in Palestine.
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 No.485102

>>485088
>Israeli Foreign Minister Israel Katz says he ordered legal proceedings against French President Emmanuel Macron after France banned Israeli firms from participating in an upcoming naval trade show.
seething Zionists
small amount of surplus enjoyment

>“[These] are undemocratic steps
I somehow always expect Netanyahu to burst into flames when he says words like "democracy".
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Suspected hack at Haifa’s port database

The Israeli Broadcasting Authority is reporting that port workers in the northern Israeli city of Haifa have received messages that the port’s computer systems have been hacked and that it will be subjected to a missile attack.

Port officials estimated that workers’ phones were located in an external database that was hacked a few years ago.

“We know you work at the port. It will be one of our targets” was the message that was reported to have been sent.

Haifa has been the target of several attacks by Hezbollah in recent weeks, with some rockets evading air defences.

Israeli strikes target three locations in Beirut

As we’ve reported, Israeli air strikes have targeted southern Beirut yet again.

According to reports, the strikes hit Dahiyeh in three locations: Ozai, Jinah and Haret Hreik.
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Interesting new article from DropSite. Here are some selected sections:

Yarvin and Land’s New Right ideas have taken a central place among Trump’s intellectual support structure. Within a month of Trump’s 2017 inauguration, Politico reported that Yarvin “had opened up a line to the Trump White House, communicating with [Trump advisor] Steve Bannon and his aides through an intermediary.” (Yarvin denied reports of speaking with Steve Bannon.) Peter Thiel—described as a friend of Yarvin, who invested in Yarvin’s startup in 2013 and hosted Yarvin at an election night party in 2016—reportedly became disillusioned with the Trump White House for not taking Yarvin-like ideas far enough. “Thiel fantasized that Trump’s election would somehow force a national reckoning,” according to Barton Gellman, who published a wide-ranging interview with Thiel in 2023. “He believed somebody needed to tear things down—slash regulations, crush the administrative state—before the country could rebuild.”

VP nominee J.D. Vance, a former employee in one of Thiel’s firms, has discussed similar ideas, citing Yarvin. In a 2021 podcast appearance, Vance was prompted to give his advice for Trump in a possible second administration. Name-dropping Yarvin, Vance advised: “fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, and replace them with our people.” As Gaby Del Valle at The Verge pointed out, the advice Vance offered is Yarvin’s proposal “Retire All Government Employees” (RAGE)—intended to “‘reboot’ the government under an all-powerful executive.”

We can see the osmosis of these ideas into mainstream Republican politics with “Schedule F”: an executive order that would eliminate employment protections for federal workers, and allow the Trump administration to retire all government employees and crush the administrative state. Trump signed this executive order in 2020 — and had Biden not been elected that year, it would have gone into effect.

Vance finished his statements by adding: “We are in a late republican period. If we’re going to push back against it, we’re going to have to get pretty wild, and pretty far out there, and go in directions that a lot of conservatives right now are uncomfortable with.” James Pogue at Vanity Fair notes this language also comes from Yarvin’s New Right ideology: evoking America as Rome in its “late republican period,” waiting for its Caesar to come anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.485101

>>485097
>an executive order that would eliminate employment protections for federal workers, and allow the administration to retire all government employees and crush the administrative state.
This is very strange. You can't order the state apparatus to abolish it self, they're just not going to do that.

>“Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE)
Seriously ? like that joke-crypto-coin with the dog logo ?

> that the entire social landscape of political bribery (‘lobbying’) is exactly mapped, and the administrative, legislative, judicial, media, and academic privileges accessed by such bribes are converted into fungible shares.
>At that point, the people who hold true political power can be identified.
>The conclusion of this exercise is the mapping of a ruling entity that is the truly dominant instance of the democratic polity.
>If anyone were in position to see that “the entire social landscape of political [lobbying] is exactly mapped, and the administrative, legislative, judicial, media, and academic privileges accessed by such bribes are converted into fungible shares,” it would be person in charge
and would be called Grand Nagus or Ferenginar

Lol they copied the Ferengi from Star Trek Deep Space 9.
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 No.485103

>>485101
>Seriously ? like that joke-crypto-coin with the dog logo ?

Yes. Musk is a boomerfaggot in desperate need for validation and to look kewl
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 No.485104

>>485097
>“Retire All Government Employees” (RAGE)—intended to “‘reboot’ the government under an all-powerful executive.”
Funny way of saying get rid of all the unelected bureaucrats and return power to the people via democracy.

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I see no hentai thread
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Coal on the darkweb

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 No.485028[Reply]

Sinister communist thread
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 No.485031

sinister is keyed for any newgens
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 No.485032

for any newgens in the chat sinister means keyed just so you know
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 No.485033

>>485028
What is this O9A Nazi bullshit lmao
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>>485033
Soviet power, comrade.

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 No.484602[Reply]

A biolab exploded in Conyers, Georgia the other day. According to Jordan Chariton, it's now leaving 90,000 Georgia residents sheltering in place. Chlorine gas going into the air, 32 miles from Atlanta. This is after hurricane Helene just came just came through, and damage and flooding from Helene is still terrible in the southeastern states of Tennessee and North Carolina.

Earlier this year, Atlanta's neglected water infrastructure broke, leaving a huge part of the city without water for days. A lot of commentators are contrasting the dangerous deregulation of industry and middling response to Helene with the eagerness of the Biden admin to send billions to support the genocide in Palestine and brutal war in Ukraine.
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 No.485061

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This is fucking crazy
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 No.485071

>>485059
You have to conclude that this is a cover-up for a murder, because otherwise it causes a loop-hole for murder, based on not investigating suspicious deaths.
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 No.485076

>>485071
Based on that + >>485061, it's totally possible that the guy just straight up dropped dead from exposure to the fumes, which would also be something they'd want to cover up.
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 No.485077

>>485076
>it's totally possible that the guy just straight up dropped dead from exposure to the fumes
And an autopsy performed by somebody without links to that town or that chemical company could have answered those questions, since that hasn't happened, it's reasonable to assume the worst. If politicians in opposition to powerful interests drop dead, that is very suspicious, and it requires investigation.

>which would also be something they'd want to cover up.
Yeah but the death-fumes probably un-alived several people and lots more animals, so a cover-up seems unlikely. Also the massive billowing smoke plumes were on the news everywhere. I don't see how they sweep that under the rug.
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 No.485089

>>485077
>Yeah but the death-fumes probably un-alived several people and lots more animals, so a cover-up seems unlikely.
I mean, that's totally contradictory to what they're saying publicly, so why would it seem unlikely that they'd cover it up? They've absolutely been downplaying it at the EPA and in the media.
Like, the incident in >>485061 hasn't been mentioned at all afaik.

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 No.7526[Reply]

petite-bourgeois who must pay their way in thanks to public debt at the proletariat's expense. Proletarians, who have high autism score, get in for mostly for free in America. College is the only hope, otherwise the proletarian must work and die at backbreaking and subsistence wage construction, Mcdonald, or walmart.

The problem is all of these petite-bourgeois failsons speculate both in regards to their ability and the value of the degree, not that it is hard to access. These failures cannot get scholarships. Even under socialism, the petite-bourgeois will be price gouged by state monopoly to make way for the proletariat.
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 No.7527

>>7526
This has been studied a great deal, people who have extra ordinary high intelligence, rarely turn up in positions of academic prestige or high posts in organizations. The people with genius level brains mostly end up in relatively mundane professions. Maybe our present societies lacs the appropriate interface for highly intelligent brains or something.

You're out of your mind if you think we'd paywall knowledge or learning in socialism. Quite the opposite we'd pay people to learn shit or get skills.

Scholarships are not an excuse to exclude the masses from knowledge or learning. It doesn't count as empowering the proletariat unless it's available to the entire proletariat.
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 No.7529

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>>7527
Most of mankind's problems are solved only after leaving the confines of schooling
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 No.7530

>>7529
>Most of mankind's problems are solved only after
the proletariat takes over the reigns ?
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 No.7811

The real problem is that college is over-promoted as the golden ticket to the good life.

.Most people think college is gonna save them from doing elbow grease hence why college expenses are so high.
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 No.7812

>>7811
>The real problem is that college is over-promoted as the golden ticket to the good life.
This is inherently a left-wing problem. The leftist myth that all humans are born as blank slates with equal potential means there is no reason why everyone should not go to college and become brain surgeons. If they fail it must be some environmental cause like systemic-racism or not enough socialism.

>Most people think college is gonna save them from doing elbow grease hence why college expenses are so high.
College fees are high in western countries because the government guarantees the loans and the government has infinite money. Do you really think that greedy capitalist investors would give out $200,000 loans to 18 year olds to study gender theory otherwise? If you're smart you'll ask the real question which is what is the government getting from the universities in exchange for propping up their insanely high tuition fees.

/tech/

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 No.12969[Reply]

Fuck imageboards. I want text. And if you do too, then hoo boy do I have the thread for you!
This thread is for sharing textboard links. Hard mode - No Clearnet.

(Yes, I'm begging. But come on, my mouth is open and the spoon is right there…)
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 No.12971

Same here! Text is based!
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 No.12973

That's so 1990.
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 No.13211

https://eregime.jcink.net/
Good textboard
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 No.13244

bumpy

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 No.598[Reply]

I never liked waging but I did wage for a good 4 years of my life and invested in crypto. which went relatively well. although i should have been a multimillionaire already. I fucked up many trades. But I'm still relatively well off and have 5 bitcoins and another 1 bitcoins in shitcoin. i also sold off a bitcoin between 60/70k. I have not really worked a job the past years and idk what the fuck is going on but I'm just not motivated anymore. for anything. especially not a job. I actually have a super wagie wojack factory job interview today but I think I am not going to go. the NPC interview is going to go full retard. Any job really. the entire B.S Human resources… the… slavery. the people talking to you like you are some retard ( I have a degree but do do low jobs now cause i gave up my IT carreer many years ago when my folio was big). I'm stuck bro's. my CV/RESUME is completely fucked with a 3 year gap and a 1 year gap. I could explain the one year gap saying I'm traevlling … but now i also have a 3 year gap (I was just enjoying my life and travelling). so when the HR Roasters see that they probably never want to hire me cause I am not a good wage slaves.

I also lived outside of the country for more than a year with my new foreign gf. but even that doesn't really scratch my itch right now. it feels over. is it normal that it feels over at 33?
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 No.599

>>598
>I never liked waging
You and everybody else.
>I'm just not motivated anymore.
Might not be you, neo-liberalism seems to have brought on a general feeling of malaise.

>I'm stuck bro's. my CV/RESUME
Playing the paper-stack lottery probably isn't your best bet, corporate bureaucracies run on nepotism and connections. You have to do "people-networking"

Maybe find a worker-coop or people to start one with, or look for a gig in an NGO that lobbies for peace. You know these places usually aren't filled with as much dread. If you know IT maybe join an org that lobbies for digital liberties.
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 No.618

Just lie about the gap, say you ran your own stuff
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 No.626

Methinks you're lazy and disillusioned with the idea that get rich quick is not eternal.

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 No.481775[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Who are you voting for, anon?

So far, the top candidates are:
Jill Stein (Green)
Cornel West (Independent)
Claudia De la Cruz (Party for Socialism and Liberation)
Joseph Kishore (Socialist Equality Party)
and now "Based Chase" Oliver (Libertarian)

and then there are some unserious candidates nobody likes.
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 No.484993

Stein is actually the least liked candidate according to polling (ignoring the Libertarians, who somehow score worse).

If there was instant runoff or whatever Stein would not benefit from it. Most people don't like her. Could be because most never saw her in a debate scenario (and she is good at debating) and most Americans are dumb as a box of rocks about political policy
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 No.485001

I'm voting Jill for the 3rd time. :)
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 No.485004

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Reminder that "the average American appear to have
only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant
impact upon public policy"
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 No.485006

>>485004
Reminder that this study's data was from 1981 to 2002. This was well before the McCutcheon v FEC and Citizens United v FEC cases that blew open the floodgates for dark money in elections.

Reminder that for two thousand years after the death of Aristotle the word "democracy" was defined in opposition to elections, and that it was figures from the American and French revolutions that redefined the word to describe one of the historic rivals to democracies.
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 No.485070

I love this lady's voice. It's like if Dakooters was a political wonk.

/leftypol/

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 No.485055[Reply]

Gaddafi - Green Book and Mao - Red book (Turkish edition)
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 No.485056

Which of these actually deals with socialism?
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 No.485063

>>485056
Neither
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 No.485068

>>485063
retard
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 No.485072

>>485068
Gaddafi was a racist islamist and Mao was an anti working class counterrevolutionary.

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 No.12627[Reply]

Because freedom matters.

If your computer still is running a proprietary prison.
And every time it fails you, your frustration grows.
When the system's not free, you will always be hosed.
Put a GNU system on and reboot it
Put it in your horn and toot it!
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 No.13238

>>13237
>Whats really fucked up is that people ationalise it.
>"Thats the price you gotta pay for greatness."
To some extend it's true tho, the time and effort expended on learning how to act "normal" isn't available for obsessing about philosophy, science and technology.

There are other factors.

Science for example has always been opposed by something like religion applying the label of bad person to anybody who believed things that contradict holy doctrine. Theocracy has been defeated, and scientific discovery doesn't lead to people being burned to death or drowned for sorcery. But there still are powerful forces leaning against scientific discovery. Not giving a shit what others think is very helpful in overcoming that, but it also comes with the downside that you're more likely to act like an asshole.

Stallman was able to endure all the abuse he was subjected to because he cared about being correct a lot more than how others viewed him. The flip-side of that is he also would go on stage and do things like remove his socks to clip his toenails while he waited for his turn to give a speech, because he couldn't give a shit.

FOSS is still being attacked by the monopoly-mafia that wants to suffocate all technological innovation with patents and so called copy"rights". FOSS is necessary to maintain a technology stack that is open and accessible in order to prevent total technological stagnation. Otherwise you get the situation where you can't build a machine without having to wait for a 1000 IP-lawyers to bless your design. In that situation you can't build new stuff because by the time you have overcome all the IP-obstacles, it's obsolete tech that was rendered too expensive by IP-overhead costs, to be worthwhile anymore.

Unless we have political progress that liberates people from the reign of terror that is copy"right", patents and so on, we're going to need callous assholes that can build a FOSS technology stack while not giving a shit about all the crap that gets hurled at them.

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 No.13239

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>>13236
Drew is a scheming bastard that wants Stallman and most of the FSF gone so him and his friends can install themselves. You don't want people like Drew leading FSF because these scheming ambitious types don't give a shit about ideals or principles and will 100% sell out.

Drew already has a bad track record. He used to be a huge fascist then suddenly flipped to being a progressive trans ally. Not a trustworthy man.

Also he's a huge hypocrite accusing Stallman of being a pedophile while being an avid browser of /u/ and /c/.
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 No.13241

>>13239
I wonder if this is one of those cases where an accusation is a confession. The most self-righteous always seem to have skeletons in their closet.
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 No.13242

>>13239
I do not care about attention seekers with nothing interesting to say.

I do not care about hating on them. I do not care about their opinions.
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 No.13243

>>13239
>he bookmarked /c/
>1 of the 200 threads on /c/ is a loli thread
>HE IS A PEDOPHILE
This is just as retarded and dishonest as the attacks on RMS you're complaining about.

/music/

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 No.553[Reply]

Post lyrics you like or find memorable or funny.
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 No.555

I was born without a soul inside
So I'm gonna tear out your heart
And try it on for size
You gotta have a soul to get to go to hell
That's where I wanna go to ring the demon bell
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 No.556

ARISE, PRINCE OF HELL
KING ZHABAR THE ONE WHO RULES
HIS ROTTING CARCASS SMELLS
HE'S EVIL AND HE'S CRUEL
HE'LL CRUSH YOUR BONES AND YOUR FLESH
AND HAVE THEM FOR HIS FEAST
HE'LL TEAR OFF YOUR BALLS AND EAT THEM
CUZ HE'S A FOUL BEAST

ZHABAR THE HIDEOUS HORNED DEMON

HE LOVES
HUMAN FLESH
ITS SUCCLENT TASTE HE CRAVES
HE STEALS
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 No.557

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 No.561

I WANT SUM PUSSY
FLIP DA SWITCH ON DA PUSSY
P U S S Y
P U S S Y
P U S S Y
P U S S Y

I'M GONNA FUCK YOU
AND I MIGHT LICK YOU DICK YOU
(???)
I WANT DAT PUSSY

MMM… YEAH… YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM YUM

/music/

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 No.525[Reply]

dance music thread
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 No.533

Demagoguery of the Obscurants by Xenomorph is all bangers all the way through.
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 No.540

RETVRN
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/ga/

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 No.8533[Reply]

>No animal crossing thread for 10 pages
Absolutely disgusting you uncultured plebs.
Post friend codes and Island codes, or just screenshots in general.
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 No.8575

>>8561
Wow thank you. I really didn't expect a positive reply.
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 No.8639

animal crossing won’t help you have sex. you might as well play a real video game, creeps.
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 No.12098

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Is Tom Nook a real uygha for letting you pay off your debt or is he still a jerk?
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 No.12203

>>12098
bump for answers on the Tom Nook question
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 No.12204

>>12203
Haven't played that game and don't know the Nook character, so i'm just saying something about debt.
From a materialist perspective debt is not a reasonable idea. It's a negative quantity and that makes no sense. You can't have less than zero of something.

Many people are being tricked to accept the concept of debt because they are being deceived by ideology that conflates the organic social relation-ship of owing somebody a favor with debt.

The system however is not operating like a human and it does treat debt like a negative quantity, which contradicts the very fabric of reality. This contradiction is cumulative and eventually it leads to a crisis, where the system either chooses a debt-jubilee. Or it goes to war to expand the system in order to find new means to paper over this contradiction. That is what the Roman empire did. But eventually it couldn't expand anymore, after that debt became one of the factors that lead to the collapse of the Roman empire.

One of the reasons why many Marxists want to create an economic system with labor-time and resource accounting instead of money is because that won't let you do negative quantities and then this problem never arises.

In theory you could do capitalism without debt too. You just have to gift people money to enable the creation of new capitalist companies. I guess you'd create multiple organizations that can gift money for this purpose and then you periodically cull the worst performing one that doesn't fund enough companies that become viable according to capitalist criteria (capital accumulation). Once you culled one, a new org gets chosen at random. I imagine you would not lack for applicants that want to have a go at shaking the magic money tree.

If you think this is retarded, keep in mind the limited goals of this thought experiment. Now lets look at the pitfalls. There would be fewer reasons for banks to lend money and big capital investors would be less attractive than free money from the magic money tree. Banks will be opposed to that because having a lot of debtors on a leash is a form of power, and big capital will be opposed because they want to be able to buy into new companies when they are still small. So making this politically viable in a bourgeois political system would be tricky.

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 No.11[Reply]

Welcome to the work day general.

Tell us about your day anon. Did you have a good day at work? Its OK we know work is horrible.

I work graves at a factory. If you have it shitty at work I can relate.

Tell us about your day under the crushing weight of the profit motive.
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 No.615

>>614
Curious, what do you think your class is?
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 No.616

>>615
clerk like from Gogol stories. not really a prole, moreso a pleb. am a class traitor though– i deeply loathe plebs and can't stand the people at my job. would support a revolution even if it led to a liquidation of my "class," would rather be executed by the proletarian revolution than continue living in this shitscape.
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 No.617

>>616
You don't think plebs have revolutionary potential?
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 No.619

>>617
not really no. they are mostly fascists. also burger plebs especially have been poisoned and traumatized from birth so they suffer from all sorts of mental and physical ailments (obesity, anorexia, autism, adhd, anxiety, etc) that make many of them incapable of fighting even if they wanted to.
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 No.620

jiggling my mouse and shitposting with the above anon tbh. still one of the few hold outs at my company that refuses to come back into the office. eat shit, i'm riding this gravy train until they fire me.

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 No.1024[Reply]

Discuss the Manga Dub genre as seen on Youtube
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 No.1025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18xCCTjoz3Q
[Manga Dub] I fell in love with the girl on the train at first sight but she rejected me immediately
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 No.1027

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Why does the pervert have to look like m̶e̶ that? So stereotypical..
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 No.1028

>>1027
You look like a manga character ?
With giant eye-balls ?
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 No.1029

>>1028
No, I'm talking about the pervert with glasses and slight facial hair
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 No.1030

>>1029
You can self-identify with manga characters ?

I get the impression like it's an alien species similar to humans, or maybe some alternate reality evolution on earth.

It's not just the giant eyes, instead of hair they have some kind of flaps, like a cleaning mob. And their heads are sometime 3 to 4 times the size of a regular human head.

In the picture in >>1027 the glasses are opaque, so he clearly is blind or something. If those crinkly lines represent facial hair, he's growing a beard on his forehead ? Maybe it represent some kind of bumps or maybe water droplets ?

/leftypol/

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 No.472619[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are the political implications of the world's first presidential mugshot? What will happen if he's convicted?
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 No.473259

>>473060
>Muh magatards
>I'm not psyoped, you're psyoped x 10
What a faggot
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 No.473261

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>>473255
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 No.473283

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 No.484994

He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power. Dems poll awful against almost every candidate except Trump.
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 No.485025

>>484994
>He would have been convicted way sooner if Dems didn't think he was their golden goose to stay in power.
Convict him of what? After 8 years of investigations and impeachments and lies and propaganda they ended up convicting him of putting a business expense in the wrong tax category. The only rational explanation at this point as to why the richest and most powerful people in the establishment hate him so much is precisely because he is so clean they have nothing to blackmail him with.

/leftypol/

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 No.483825[Reply]

In only six months, Sahra Wagenknecht's new party has BTFO'd the remnants of Die Linke and is already the 3rd most popular party in recent German state elections in Thuringia and Saxony. Is she gonna do it, anons? Can Germany be saved after all?
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 No.484465

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>itt hazoid larpers
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 No.484466

>>484465
>if a shit eating e-celeb has the same views as you, you now have to reject them
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 No.484983

>>483870
climate change deniers get the bullet

immigrant dehumanizers get the bullet

especially since the former phenomenon causes the latter
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 No.485007

>>484465
This has to be a shitpost from him, bacause ive definitely laughed, didnt know this guy
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 No.485023

>>484983
>climate change deniers get the bullet
>immigrant dehumanizers get the bullet
If you actually lost access to fossil fuel energy and had to share your food and living space with migrants you would change your opinions in a heartbeat. You only support this shit as long as it's not costing you anything.

/music/

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 No.535[Reply]

Kpop general

Post and discuss Korean pop (both sides)

inb4: "kpop is reactionary!"
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/nct-taeyong-message-resurfaced-starbucks-boycott/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKsj5mCR7qs
Chollima On The Wing - DPRK Music Video

Furthermore, there is a blockchain themed Kpop group active right now named tripleS (that lets fans vote using NFTs), and the DPRK has been dabbling in cryptocurrency, so there you go..
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 No.536

Pochonbo Electronic Ensemble - This Is Offensive!
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 No.537

>>535
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKsj5mCR7qs
This fuckin rules

Moranbong band have some bops ,too.
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 No.558

New MV dropped. Hitomi-chan's redebut..

/leftypol/

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 No.484627[Reply]

Iran is bombing Israel. what do you think? I stand iran.
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 No.484731

>>484726
>If I was the leader of Iran and the US assured me that I could retaliate and the US wouldn't attack me, it would have little bearing on what decision I made.
I think the previous case of a "choreographed theatrical retaliation" where the Iran negotiated the details and timetables of the attack with the US could have become a blue-print for defusing escalations. While in the end it did not work, it was definitely worth the attempt of turning war-fare in a spectacle without much real destruction. It's a shame the jedi-mind trick didn't work on the warmongers.

Iran now seems to be aiming for a strategy of degrading Israel's offensive capabilities. Like damaging air-bases. While they currently are on a wave cadence, I think they'll end up on a constant slow attrition strategy that puts pressure on Isreal's re-supply. The US and most of the western weapons industry is having difficulties of organizing timely production of those very complex weapons systems, because of the neo-liberally eroded industrial base. Slowly depleting the offensive potential also was the strategy of the Russians during the middle part of the Russian-Nato-proxy-war in Ukraine.
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 No.484734

>>484731
History does not repeat nor tolerate the present state Israel wishes to impose on it.

With what Iran is building up, I would not be surprised if they flatten Israel and rain hellfire, and US looks the other way.
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 No.484763

>>484734
I don't think Iran really intends to "flatten" Isreal. They're looking for deterrence primarily, and if they can't have that they'll attempt to destroy Isreal's capacity to attack other countries in the region, while preserving Isreal's viability as a state.

They do have the fire-power to obliterate Isreal, but that won't come into play unless Isreal tries to use nukes. Some of the ultra Zionist hardliners want to use nukes in Lebanon, not because it serves a military objective, but rather as an attempt to intimidate.

If that happens Iran would switch it's economy to a war-time command economy, begin underground nuclear weapons testing and start continuously hammering Israel with conventional weapons, this time with the aim of destroying Isreal's viability as a state. I.d.k. if the US pulls out and looks away, but it's definitely possible, it's not worth it for the US to throw down on behalf of Israel, not economically and especially not politically.

At the moment this scenario is not very likely, the US military probably would act resolutely to frustrate any use of nuclear weapons they haven't approved. The other factor, as Alexander Mercouris puts it: "Russia's long shadow descending upon the middle east", is changing the power equation in a major way.
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 No.484797

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<484627
>i support one militant anticommunist hellhole against the other militant anticommunist hellhole, in words
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 No.485011

>>484797
What's grosser than the turd was the way the foreskin was peeling outward over the glans.
Also, something tells me that turd was fake.

/tech/

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 No.6724[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is only for feedback related to technical issues(bug reports, suggestions). Otherwise use
>>>/leftypol/30356
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DemainDark is really good for a default theme, please, the mono font tires the fuck out of my eyes, its unreadable

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keep mine in check so
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 No.477627[Reply]

Do they go

>I have to carefully construct what say to get the proles to do what I want and tolerate what I am doing

Or do they go

>I am so fucking god-like, I will use ruling-class language with my people and they will do my bidding.

Basically what I'm asking is do they have ideology of their own that they are unconsciously committed to, or are they blatantly just lying when they talk about things like creating jobs?
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 No.480674

>>477986
>People think "the Mateix"(aka REALITY) is some virtual reality program they can log out of.
I don't think anyone does, you are taking it too literally, and I am guessing you never saw the movie since the Matrix is not reality.

The metaphor is that the matrix is how most people see the world, but once you see the real world (take the red pill) then you can never live in the matrix again. Like how once you obtain class consciousness you can never see capitalism the same again.
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 No.480704

>>480674
I watched all four Matrix movies.

People do treat the Matrix metaphor as a more literal thing than anything.
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>>477627
Why did musk buy twitter? Because the smart people he has employed advised him to do so.
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>>477627
>Basically what I'm asking is do they have ideology of their own that they are unconsciously committed to, or are they blatantly just lying when they talk about things like creating jobs?


As a class they have class consciousness and powerful organizational structures in place to maintain their power. As individuals they are often retarded and out of touch even with the scope of their own power. Some of them really do believe they're job creators and not job gatekeepers. Some of them really do believe they should earn a billion dollars per second for "taking the risk" of owning the legal titles to stuff that other people manage and labor upon for them.
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 No.485005

>>484984
I'm increasingly believing that this is the case. That they act in their class interests because of their material conditions, but on an individual level they're not smart enough to really see themselves for what they are: instead they genuinely believe that they're the good guys and deserve their position.

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 No.12073[Reply]

So apparently big publishers want to kill the internet archive again.

They accuse I.A. of having done a copywrong by lending out books. I won't bore you with the legal technicalities because i think it's just a pretext for publishers trying to kill a library because it's a cartel that wants a monopoly.

I think the lessons here are if you pay these people money, they're going to use it to attack nice things like the Internet Archive, and "copy-right" is nothing but a heinous weapon.

People who build archives to preserve the memory of the past are like really rare flowers, it's an incomprehensible act of barbarism to try to burn down their archives.

https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/
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Looks like archive.org is under a major attack today. They've had their usernames, emails, and passwords compromised and are offline due to a DDoS attack. Source:
https://xcancel.com/brewster_kahle/status/1844183111514603812

Do you think the purpose of this is to push the internet archive into the arms of the CDN racket? Am I going to have to solve a fucking Cloudflare captcha when I want to view an old website in the future?
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>>13224
God don't even fucking bring the Cloudcancer faggotry up, it makes me so mad. These faggots are fucking enemies of the people, doing their best to make Firefox unusable
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https://xcancel.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1845502888480579860
A group claiming to be Palestine solidarity activists is claiming credit for the hacks and DDoS. Apparently we're supposed to have sympathy for victims in Palestine after they just attacked the good guys.

Here's a real juicy bit of their write-up:
>On June 1st, 2020, four major publishing houses— Hachette Book Group, Penguin Random House, HarperCollins, and John Wiley— filed a lawsuit against the Internet Archive in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, claiming that the Internet Archive’s regulated digital lending practices constitute copyright infringement. On March 25th, 2023, the court ruled in favor of the publishers. The negotiated ruling issued on August 11, 2023, prohibited the Internet Archive from lending books for which electronic copies are sold digitally.

>On August 11th, 2023, the major music companies Universal Music Group, Sony Music, and Concord (along with their subsidiaries Capitol Records, Arista Records, and CMGI Recorded Music Assets) also filed a lawsuit against the Internet Archive in the same federal court in New York regarding the archive's Great 78 project, demanding $621 million in damages for alleged copyright infringement.

>The archive was supposed to be a reference for information, but the site has started to resemble piracy sites. Frankly, we are astonished, as the picture has become clear: The archive is officially responsible for this circus they created to escape from lawsuits and financial crimes. Do you want a job with us, Brewster Kahle?

In other words, this entity wants us to be mad at Internet Archive for violating copyright law. They want us to think IA actually deserved to have a bunch of scumbag publishers go after them. A hacktivist group siding with copyright law? First one I've ever heard of.
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 No.13228

>>13227
>A group claiming to be Palestine solidarity activists is claiming credit for the hacks and DDoS.
Yeah they probably are neither a Palestine solidarity group nor the people who done the hacks and ddos.

>In other words, this entity wants us to be mad at Internet Archive for violating copyright law.
Publishers want to get rid of public libraries, that's all there is too it.

IA probably didn't violate copyright law, by any reasonable interpretation. (I do understand the irony of putting the word reasonable in the same sentence as copyright in present year)
And it's just madness to accuse people who run websites to be engaged in mercenary naval warfare.

There is a technical aspect. Libraries do have to pay to lend books. But during covid many people were cut off from libraries on account of "lock-downs" (horrible terminology) and could not use the book lending services. However publishers did not offer a refund to libraries, that means they took license money but nothing was offered in return.

There is another argument, the extremist expansion of copyright was not exactly done with democratic consent, powerful lobbies wrote those laws and then it was foisted onto society. To what extend copyright law falls into the category of unjust might-makes-right and justice respectively is debatable. Unjust laws are not valid, it's not a crime to violate unjust laws but it is a crime to enforce unjust laws. A recent example of an unjust law would be banning birth-controle medications, because it violated the right to self-determination and it is political interference into medical treatments. Basically medical treatments ought to be decided by patients and their doctors, without any third party interference.

If they kill Internet Archive that will create damages in opportunity cost for billions of people. The copyright pushers already have infringed on personal property rights of billions of people by infecting digital goods with malware that they call "digital rights management". So what they are doing likely isn't above board either.
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>>13227
>"Palestine soldarity group"
A Zio-op, non plus ultra

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"I endorse for president of the United States Green Party candidate, Dr. Jill Stein," former KKK leader Duke said on his radio show on Monday. "Although Dr. Stein and I obviously have our differences on important issues, she's the only candidate who speaks clearly against the war in the Middle East."

https://www.newsweek.com/former-kkk-leader-david-duke-endorses-jill-stein-trashes-donald-trump-1969710
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 No.484986

In other words you're saying that the KKK is now officially less Nazi adjacent than the people in charge of the Republicans and Democrats.
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Dick Cheney has killed way more people than David Duke, and he endorsed Harris and Harris liked it. Also Liz, too, pictured here.

The real hilarious thing about the David Duke endorsement, which has, amazingly, gone totally over the heads of liberals, is that a former KKK leader just endorsed a Jewish woman's campaign which has a black Muslim as VP. You people hate Jill Stein so much that you have no idea how funny that is. He may as well have just endorsed Jesse Jackson, it's comedy gold, and you're so deranged that you don't get the joke.
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>>484991
there's no way you are a real person
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>>484992
Real person, lived through the Bush years. A Dick Cheney endorsement is not a compliment. Cheney was at the forefront of advocating torture, pushing for two disastrous foreign wars, suppressing opposition to those wars, and shredding the constitution in the hugest expansion of mass surveillance and forced disappearances in American history. The Bush era ended with all of that + the worst recession since the Great Depression.
A David Duke endorsement isn't a compliment either, which is why Stein rejects it - although it's still funny as fuck. Dick Cheney is easily as hated in America as David Duke, but Harris acts like it's a badge of honor to be endorsed by a guy who even conservatives despise at this point.

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 No.484897[Reply]

Can a Muslim be a Jucheist?
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 No.484898

I heard DPRK has religious organizations or something
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>>484897
>>484897
Yes but not without some cognitive dissonance

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