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 No.449782[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A vote has passed in the congress to establish a right wing debate general to argue against right wing talking points and keep them from leaking out onto the rest of the board. From this point on all right wing discussion points should be confined to this thread and this thread will be used for debunking them and generally punching rightoids in the dick. All right wing nonsense posted outside of this thread will be subject to a deletion hence forth if deemed necessary.
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 No.461233

>>461130
I would ask you what you think socialist economics are.

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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
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 No.461067

>>460436
Between mining, processing and transporting graphite, cutting, milling, and treating wood, the paint and all that goes into making that, synthesizing the rubber for the eraser, producing and punching out the alloy that forms the little metal bit that holds the eraser in place, and doing everything that is involved in packaging and distributing the finished product, yeah, I imagine that the pencil contaims more socially necessasry labor time.

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 No.459598[Reply]

After much discussion and being voted for by a democratic majority, in the matrix. the new leftychan constitution has come into effect, replacing the outdated pre-split document. This should hopefully provide more clarity over the general goal of leftychan, the rights of users, the powers and constraints of mods as well as the specifics of how our user democracy functions. Please feel free to ask any questions regarding the constitution in this thread or in the Matrix Congress room, which we encourage you all to join using the link above.
Additionally, another vote has passed to trial a self-improvement board on /777/ under the name of /chad/, which will be the roulette board for the next two months, replacing /roy/. Finally, for those not in the matrix chats, here is a recent votes and their outcomes:

10/21/22 - All mod account and janny accounts that have been inactive for 15 weeks or longer be deleted on the staff democratically decided upon. PASSED - 5 Yes - 0 Nay
10/15/22 - Make the maga communism thread cyclical in order to keep the board from getting shit up with tons of maga communism threads NOT PASS - 1 Yea, 4 Nay
10/11/22 - Tupamaro becomes an official jannoid PASS - 5 Yea, 1 Nay
10/11/22- /a/ will return to the board roster PASSED - 6 yeah 0 Nay
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 No.461021

>>460145
they have rules but zero are enforced usually you get banned for 'wrongthink'

 No.459044[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

MAGA Communism is the future of American Communist movement because the MAGA movement itself is in many ways proto-communist. It is by far the largest and most powerful anti-establishment movement in the US. Anti-establishment democrats have immediately cucked out when elected (AOC and Bernie Sanders in particular), and while grifters like DeSantis try to appeal to the MAGA movement they cannot inspire the same populist energy that Donald Trump did when he promised to end foreign wars and bring back jobs. "Peace, Land, and Bread" if you will. Regardless of if Trump is a corrupt fuck or not seriously investigating the reasons behind why his movement has basically defined American politics since 2016 should be a priority of Communists.

MAGA Communism is necessary for reaching the masses - even those that don't like communism right now! Rejecting much of the American people for believing in MAGA results in making communism an edgy thought to be consumed by university students and other idiots.

"Out of the movement, into the masses."
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 No.461735

>>461734
Jesus, you people are guy. keep sucking off Kamala's clit I guess
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 No.461736

>>461735
No argument left, huh? Good, then you can piss off.
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 No.461751

>>461735
>Everyone that disagrees with me is a democrat.
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 No.461755

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>>461736
Faggot+don't care, you're broke+poast fizeek+reddit tier+spooks+soyjack.jpg
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 No.461756

>>461755
Hey, you came back to meme after getting destroyed! lel

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 No.461546[Reply]

>What are the political implications of the pareto principle both in the left and in the wider world.
Does fact that 80% of impact/results stem from 20% of agents explain the inherent inequality of the world. Is this necessarily a bad thing, or is it just a thing that is devoid of value but should simply be accounted for?
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 No.461653

>>461624
Yes. Have you made one that wasn't about the disingenuous misuse of statistics?
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 No.461654

>>461653
>You made it it to the 20% of visitors who create 80% of threads. Congrats.

But…. Was it one of the 20% of threads that garner 80% of replies….?
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 No.461666

>>461645
Those are invariably the shittiest threads. They are about internet celebrities, arguing with rightards, and what is and is not idpol.
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 No.461753

>>461546
the number of places you'll find pareto distributions/zipf's law keeps me up at night. hell if i know what it means, hopefully not that social equality is physically or mathematically impossible
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 No.461754

>>461753
Equality is impossible
>Find a place where equality exists

Protip: you can't

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 No.442165[Reply]

It has been said often that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. This being said, there seem to be quite a lot of boycotts regardless. Are we to interpret each and all of these boycotts as being futile attempts to reconcile a lack of ethical consumption under Capitalism? Is there reason to participate in boycotts if all consumption under Capitalism is unethical anyway?

Is all consumption equally unethical?
Is there any meaningful difference between purchasing items like clothing or computers brand new vs. used?

I guess these are novice questions. I hope these aren't considered gauche.
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 No.446959

>>442372

From what I understood yes: Its in a Brazil style situation.
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 No.447149

If workers form a picket line outside their shop

is it ethical consumption not to break that picket line and go into the shop to buy something?
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 No.461745

bump
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 No.461750

>>442168
>t. brainlet burger
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 No.461752

>>447149
>muh ethics
Incredibly useless framework for this question.

Breaking a picket line wouldn't be solidarity, which is a shit move most of the time since it weakens every other worker action little by little - particularly if I'm screwing them over to buy something like an iphone or some other useless junk.

And do note I said most of the time, because in a hypothetical scenario of the picketers withholding food or water from their fellow proles instead of redistributing it, then they're gonna get it (and that's a good thing!)

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 No.449829[Reply]

Since we are throwing out Marxism anyway just to appease liberal sentiments we could go way further.

>fetish work
A subspecies of sex worker specializing in shitting or peeing on their customers. Very endangered worker.

>mafia work
A mafia worker is a proletarian who is exploited by the mafia boss. He is forced by The System to extract out money and/or gold teeth from his victims for protection, but his evil capitalist mafia boss takes almost all of that and pays back the poor mafia worker only a small part.

>politi-worker
The proletariat working in the US congress, UK parliament, etc. They produce new laws without which we couldn't live under capitalism. Sadly the politi-worker is not free and is controlled by the evil bourgeoisie.

>NGO work
The section of the proletariat that produces awareness about social injustices. Sadly, they are exploited by George Soros (their boss) who doesn't compensate them properly for all the awareness they created with their hard labor.

>NEET-proletariat
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 No.461706

>>450064
>Sex as a public service
Early Mesopotamia actually had something like this in the form of temple priestesses.
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 No.461709

>>449829
Productive labor in the marxist sense means producing a commodity with a persistent use-value, that is not for big bourgeois luxury consumption, or for war. Prostitution in the Marxist sense is unproductive labor.
Socialism would abolish prostitution but the police would persecute the Johns, not the prostitutes.

A mafia worker is just a lumpen-prole, or informal economy worker or a precariate.

I like the idea that Matter is proletarian.
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 No.461717

>we
who
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 No.461748

>>461709
>Productive labor in the marxist sense means producing a commodity with a persistent use-value
Source? As I understand it, "productive labor" is any labor that was employed in producing commodities and thus surplus-value.
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 No.461749

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>>450038
>Where are the "communists" that aren't working with Kaiser Wilhelm II?
>Where are the "communists" that aren't working with the Kerensky government.
Cook County Jail

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 No.457563[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.


Pro-Russia sources:
https://nitter.net/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/mdfzeh
https://nitter.net/AZmilitary1
https://nitter.net/wargonzoo
https://nitter.net/TheHumanFund5
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/vorposte

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 No.461742

What’s the point . They are both gona be shit ……
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 No.461743

>>461740
You do bring up one point that I am curious about, though. How is Russia utilizing its air power? Could some of the Russian military's underperformance in the Ukraine be due to a lack of air supremacy? Do they not have that? Before the war, I honestly would have thought that the Russian military would have completely routed the Ukranian military within two weeks like the Americans and Brits did with the Iraqi military in 1991.
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 No.461744

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>>461741
It's in Ellsberg's book. An early chapter argues that one of the major reasons for the disintegration of Westphalian norms towards warfare against civilians during WWII was because of the development of aerial bombing. Bombers couldn't hit simple shit like massive factories even during broad daylight for decades and this eventually lead to carpet bombing as a battle tactic.
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 No.461746

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you WILL starve for for ukraine, wagie
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 No.461747

>>461744
So what? Carpet bombing was not precision bombing. Blow up the whole neighborhood, and the factory goes with it.

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 No.461565[Reply]

What is the viability of the civil disobedience campaigns such as these garbage protests by the Young Lords in 1960s Harlem? Are there any successful more recent examples of such tactics, or have the police adapted to counter them?
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 No.461694

>>461685
>>461689
The cops are not in the habit of providing statistics on the people they kill.
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 No.461697

>>461694
t. has no idea how police departments function
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 No.461698

>>461697
Do you mean that there are statistics compiled regarding the individuals who were killed by cops? Show me.
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 No.461699

>>461698
Every bullet a cop shoots has to be accounted for in reports, you don't think they catalog kills too?
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 No.461700

>>461699
Of course they do, but they sure as hell don't make those numbers public, nor, do I imagine, does each department give those numbers to other departments. That's why I said, "show me."

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 No.461341[Reply]

<Xi Bros…. I don't feel so good

Over the past week or so, major protests have been escalating in China due to the Zero COVID policy. Apparently, Chinese visitors to the world cup were astonished that no one outside of China cares about the coof anymore, and shared their thoughts on WeChat, which has exacerbated existed discontent. Now, protestors in China are calling for the removal of Xi and the CCP. Maybe nothing immediate will come of it, but it does indicate that cracks in the social cohesion and unity in China are developing, and this may have longer term ramifications.
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 No.461638

>>461636
Is there some kind of freebasing version of Nicotine I'm not aware of.
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 No.461639

>>461638
There are multiple ways to absorb nicotine.
In relation to these studies, nicotine, and smoking, a relavent distinction is that former smokers may on one hand have damaged lungs and thus more susceptible to negative outcomes from COVID while no longer ingesting nicotine which seems to offer some protection against infection.

I don't expect you to pick up on complexity though. So by all means, continue the reddit tier snark and dunning kruger syndrome.
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 No.461640

>>461637
>Presents claim with no supporting evidence

>NOOO U CAN'T DO EXACTLY THAT ONLY I CAN DO IT!

>>461638
Gum, patches, Chew, Smoking, Vaping, Hookas… There's many different ways to ingest nicotine.
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 No.461641

>>461640
>Gum, patches,
That's for people quitting smoking
Chew,
The only different one
>Smoking, Vaping, Hookas…
These are all just smoking
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 No.461642

>>4616

Chewing gum is an alternative to smoking. Some people chew it to get their nicotine fix. It's not 1980 anymore.

Vaping and hookas are not the same as smokgin especially vaping. Hook smoking is closer to smoking unfiltered cigars which are much WORSE for you than cigarettes.

I was a smoker for like 20 years m8.

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