/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>490508
I will create a commune where your mom is for free

>>487934
>>487916
Yeah it happened.
Basically, Caballo was refusing to follow his own rules and constantly stepping out of line so there was an attempt to create some democratic methodology by Comatoast, Zero, and Watermelon with the supprt of some other users, but, they had a backdoor in Krates which had been inactive for like a year at that point.

Can't believe that's you, what a twist.

Most right-wing politicians now that aren't part of the dwindling "compassionate right" are basically just machiavellians that will adopt whatever policies will keep them in power. They don't even pretend to have a coherent ideology or worldview.

It's really difficult for me to make sense of conservitism when I think about it as a system of beliefs and values – There are way too many incongruencies between conservitives' stated beliefs and their actions. They make a lot more sense when you think of them as being connected in their persisting personal anxieties and insecurities. It creates confusion for me when I think of the right as simply the opposite of the left, because the projects of the right are moreso about expanding and preserving the spheres of comfort and control for the dominant groups inside a society. Every conservative gives their own sphere a kind of primacy. I think they appear pretty faithful when you see them like this. Basically, they don't actually have any allegience to an idea, but they have allegiences to themselves and have come together on the basis that each one's selfishness is useful to the other.

>>488824
First and foremost they are pedophiles

>>488824
most politicians don't believe in their own view. political views exist purely to attach people to certain politicians, to get votes, and eventually get bribed either way. politics is a shitshow and the current democratic system sucks.

>>490478
>Is this policy taken seriously? How effective is it in supporting child-rearing and families?
>Are employment conditions truly that difficult?
These two questions can be answered together. Due to the deterioration of labor conditions (hard work and low pay), people are no longer willing to engage in physical labor.Unfortunately, due to the economic downturn, non-manual labor jobs increasingly require a high level of education (just as it was during the Great Depression in the United States). Meanwhile, as it becomes increasingly difficult to find a good job and the pressure of life keeps growing, the younger generation is less and less willing to have children. Even though there is now a three-child policy to encourage children, the subsidies provided by the policy are far from covering the cost of raising a child.

>Could you expand on labor treatment? and gender conflicts? What are the major grievances from both sides?
Workers have long working hours but low salaries and their wages are often in arrears. The government will not easily assist workers who want to safeguard their rights and interests. When workers are forced to take radical measures to make a living, this is called "malicious wage claim".
As for gender conflicts, it must be frankly said that both men and women have problems. Some crazy extreme feminists constantly incite others, demanding that the entire society must fully serve women, and that women do not have to engage in any labor. Because of these extreme feminists, many people who could have supported gender equality were scared away and turned to the extreme male chauvinism. In this vicious circle, the conflicts between men and women are escalating. In this way, the male proletariat and the female proletariat were so busy quarrelling with each other that they ignored the bourgeoisie riding on their heads :(

>>490484
>Some crazy extreme feminists constantly incite others, demanding that the entire society must fully serve women, and that women do not have to engage in any labor.
It's funny because second-wave feminism in the United States was all about women going into the workplace and winning the same treatment as men as workers. It succeeded because there was a material shift that supported it: in the '70s and '80s American wages stagnated to such an extent that it was no longer possible to support a family on the income of a single parent. Women were forced into the workplace to be wage slaves just like men and the feminists thought they had won a big victory. Curious if you can identify a material force that accompanies the current gender conflicts in China.

>>490485
This is an article from 1943. I think it accurately summarizes the current situation of the feminist movement in China today. For instance, the article states that some feminists only know how to shout empty slogans and favor women.
In today's China, women who are truly involved in labor do not make such remarks. Instead, it is often middle-class women who support these claims. We call these women "little fairies" because they are so impractical.
The action you mentioned about women striving for equal labor treatment has already been realized in China (the "women can hold up half the sky" in the Mao‘s era).
However, when women's labor rights are increasingly being infringed upon, the voices of the working women who truly need to speak out are instead drowned out by these "little fairies".It is precisely because of these "little fairies" that the conflicts between men and women have become increasingly serious

>>490348
What are your recommended essential books on Chinese statecraft, warcraft, and spycraft?

What about the essentials for understanding Chinese culture, philosophy, and psychology?

Thank you!

As a foreign comrade in the U.S., have found China to be quite mysterious due to contradictory progaganda over the years. I see China as biding their time for capitalist nations to cannibalize themselves, avoiding conflicts as much as possible as recommended by Sun Tzu. Have read China is becoming more Americanized, with the youth embracing Halloween(with it being mostly restricted or banned), rap(before being banned), and 90s sitcoms(rumored to be circulated underground). Also read the government suppresses unions/workers to avoid Western bureaucratic pitfalls and excessive middle men. Have also heard the chinese are more liberal with their racism, though not as hateful or grudging with it and it is not as taboo to criticize whatever minority groups.

Regarding China's socialist aspects, they seem to be very fickle, given their actions during the Cold War and inaction afterwards, The chinese seem to be nationalists dipped in red. Heard from Chinese-American (who admires modern China but detests socialism) argue that Marxism conflicts with Chinese culture and is antithetical and only a label at this point. Personally, given the fact of seeing enough videos of Chinese industrial workers getting crushed and maimed, it seems socialism is only an aesthetic at this point with the poor work conditions.

Overall, see China as the lesser of many evils not a savior

>>490526
Since you didn't get a reply from OP i'll try.

>What are your recommended essential books on Chinese
>statecraft
Xii Jinping wrote a book about that. Can't recall the title, sry. Could be something like 'Governance of China in the modern era.'
>warcraft
Historic: Sun Tzu (as you mentioned) and Mao
Modern: i got nothin

>essentials for understanding Chinese culture, philosophy, and psychology?
i got nothin on that either

>I see China as biding their time for capitalist nations to cannibalize themselves, avoiding conflicts as much as possible
That is their attitude for the world at large, but they do want 'the string of Perls' aka the military encirclement by the US removed.
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>>490323
Ok I'm assuming you are arguing in good faith, and that you think you are only being consistent within your worldview.

However there is the neo-con conundrum.

If you criticize one of the designated enemies in the "neo-con hall of threats" they somehow become immune to any criticism you make against them and you also have agreed with their agenda. Even-though that was not your intention. No matter how much you protest, you get counted as consenting to their wretched warmonger causes.

Your strategy might even have been to undermine neocon political capital by equating them with their designated enemies. The neocons have figured out to hack this strategy and gain political energy from you if you do.

The neocons are very basic imperialists at heart. They operated on the economic circuit of investing into means of military domination that gets a return on investment every-time they manage too loot another country, by toppling governments or bombing countries to rubble. (Tangent: They are increasingly failing in their efforts to do so and every-time they invest into means of military domination, they cannibalize the "western host". Imperialism is causing losses )

They seek to imperialize the world, and they figured out a trick to convert every criticism you have of countries in their crosshairs into a virtue matrix that justifies what they are doing as a holy crusade to bring morality to the heathens. (Except they have updated the rhetoric). Take for example Afghanistan before the 20 year neocon forever-war (they labeled "war on terror") , that was ruled by the Taliban and you could probably make a reasonable criticism that it wasn't democratic, and then the neocon hijacked this for their war mongering: By pretending to bring freedom and democracy to Afghanistan. We all know how that story turned out. Trillions of dollars set on fire, millions dead, and the Taliban still rule Afghanistan.

I don't know how to "break the spell".
Maybe accusing the neocons as the threat might work. Like that drone-container attack on Russia's nuclear triad, that threatened our security by destabilizing the nuclear weapons balance.
Maybe blaming the neocons for all the faults in Russian, Chinese, Iranian,… societies could work. For example Iran lacks religous freedoms, and the neocons can be blamed Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>490320
>China, officially the People's Republic of China (PRC),[a] is a fascist and social-imperialist state located in East Asia.

OP delete your retarded website right now.

>>490330

Of course, random person on the internet! And with that, I will stop political activism entirely and live in a cave because you called us a mean word!

Thank you for your constructive criticism.

>>490305
>ideology selector tab
what is that? and how would that look like?

>>490528
Interesting idea actually. Knowledge bases have a propensity to suffer from the 'I'm the embodiment of truth' syndrome.

Without the assertion of 'Tha Truth' a opinionpedia can form. Let ideological currents be renamed to thought-collectives. And every such thought-collective can curate it's opinionated version of the pedia. If an article has several entries by multiple thought-collectives the reader can switch between them or access a diff-view that highlights opinion differences/agreements.

Not as a philosophical stance, objective reality exists after-all, but as a rejection of arbiters of truth. Because arbitration powers rarely coincides with an interest in objective reality.

quelling 2 problems: the splitting and the game of thrones for narratives.

This is one of the most damning strategic deconstructions from within the Iranian command sphere. Rezaei speaks not from triumph, but from precision, mapping the fault lines of a system that once called itself untouchable.

The Fordow retaliation triggering direct IRGC strikes on CENTCOM’s Al Udeid base shatters a long-standing psychological myth: that no state would dare touch U.S. military infrastructure head-on. Iran did. Qatari eyewitness confirmation of multiple explosions, contrary to CENTCOM’s “1 impact” claim, signals either a serious breach of U.S. interception capacity, or a deliberate media dampening to contain fallout.

But Rezaei then pivots from hardware to narrative collapse. $20 billion gone in 12 days. THAAD munitions drained at a scale that burns through 2 years of Lockheed Martin’s output. 80 Israeli drones downed, 32 wreckages in Iranian hands, including advanced Hermes and Heron ISR assets. These are attrition of ISR depth, escalation dominance, and economic pacing.

Then comes the core: Israel’s entire existential cohesion rests not on territory or ethnicity, but on a securitized myth. A promise to diasporic Jews that “here, no one can touch you.” Iran has now touched them, from Gaza, from Yemen, from Lebanon, and directly from Iranian soil. That illusion is pierced. Not just once, but structurally.

The implicit warning is clear: if security is gone, the glue unravels. What remains is a fissile settler colony with collapsing morale, rising capital flight, and no more monopoly on escalation.

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Thomas Keith, July 8, 2025
https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1942681676947038379

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1942992751848530260
MenchOSINT: The RC-135W Rivet Joint of the US Air Force is gathering intelligence on Yemen.

It could mean they could start attacking in the next couple of days.

https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1942946410099245253
WikiLeaks: Leaked documents show Tony Blair Institute (TBI) staff were involved in a postwar Gaza proposal for a “Trump Riviera” and “Elon Musk Smart Manufacturing Zone.”

An internal TBI paper called the war a “once-in-a-century opportunity” to rebuild Gaza with artificial islands, blockchain trade & tax-free zones.

Yemen has sunk 2 ships in one week.
https://x.com/Ahmed_hassan_za/status/1943021634027163748
Ahmed Hassan: The Yemeni army released footage of the attack on the ETERNITY C, which completely sank it.

This ship was heading to the port of Eilat despite the ban on Israeli ports…

This is the end for those who don't listen to Yemen.

https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1943029902917214563
MintPress News: Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu is reportedly extending his stay in Washington

This comes amidst reports unusual US military movement throughout the Middle East.

Israel’s Premier may extend his stay in order to have more meetings with Trump, according to media sources.

>>490546
Yemen shrugged off operation 'we hit em really hard'. They can enforce a trade blockade. Yemen is punching above it's weight, evidently.

>>490548
On and off again Iran war, round 4 incoming.

>He wants to make busses free, tax millionaires 2%, make childcare free and freeze rent in rent-controlled apartments

He wouldn’t act upon that, he’s basically just a other Obama

>>490400
acting on it was never the point, its a negotiating position
how do you mfers call yourselves marxists yet still dont understand capitalist politics?

>>490543
>how do you mfers call yourselves marxists yet still dont understand capitalist politics?
This fucker obviously doesn't. He constantly uses the rhetoric of compromise in his campaigning, talks about "working together" with bosses when they're obviously going to oppose wins for workers that hurt their bottom line at every opportunity. His list of "heroes" is a bunch of other mealy-mouthed sellouts. And most importantly he has made no pretenses whatsoever about using his office as a tool to build worker movements to actually win things.

Or maybe he understands capitalist politics better than you (the dupe he's swindling).

>>490544
he isn't a marxist, he's a capitalist politician, wtf did you expect
im not sure what you think im saying here but its probably wrong

Western left worships antisocial lumpens. It's not just this with grooming gangs, It's the same with Floyd, Neely, Kaba etc. Antisocial violent lumpens should be worshipped and allowed to do whatever they want because they are poor or something.

It's a main part as to why I hold the postion, the modern left is just the holier than thou version of the 1970s Punk counter culture. Same antisocial counter-culture attitude, same worship of lumpen lifestyle and culture with squatting and such, total inability to deal with the reality that being poor coded doesn't make you morally superior.
>>490507
Communism has never believed in Cultural Relatavism. Marx straight up calls non-Western cultures "barbarians" lol. The point of Communism is to create a new Communist society which will have a Communist culture.

>>490527
>Neither of the sources you posted one of which is literally wikipedia, lol proves that muh left denies the existence of the rape gangs and calls it a "nazi conspiracy theory"
Just search Grooming gang on Leftist Subreddits lol Non stop threads for years denying they existed and was just a racist right wing smear job.
Even on more mainstreal left subs rLabourUK, until the past couple months, it was just "made up scandal by right wing hacks".
Don't do this nonsense dude. This is a massive problem with the Left. Say things for fucking years and years and years, then pretend the left never actually called for this stuff.
"Uhh we never said defund, uhh we never said give puberty blockers to 4 year olds, uhh we never said all masculinity is toxic" etc etc, when it's clear these were dominating narratives for a decade. It's annoying and in bad faith. The left absolutely downplayed the existence of grooming gangs and still always does this nonsense thing of "well white people also raped kids like Jimmy Savile, why don't you care about that?", "uhh it wasn't Pakistani culture, it's entirely the fault of the police!".
Reality is, Pakistanis ran massive scale grooming and rape gangs that were extremely racialized targeting white girls, for decades, and the left largely treated it as a racist conspiracy theory.

>>490530
>my evidence: REDDIT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and again you failed to bring evidence

keep malding

Rape gangs exist within every ethnicity and population regardless of general cultural background. The majority of a country will always do the majority of the crime, blaming things on immigrants is a symptom of corruption and political bribery as the issue becomes them and not the actual crime taking place on both sides

>>490540
Nah fam. Civilized countries don't have "rape gangs" this seems like a UK problem to me lol

>>490442
>What do you think a black market is?
Capitalism isn't "markets", it is private control of the means of production. That's not enforceable without a government or other means of violence. You can't have freedom under capitalism.

>>490456
lolno, capitalism is wage labor for the production of commodities. Feudalism and slavery didn't become not-feudalism and not-slavery when the state owned slaves and serfs.

>>490447
>In the USSR. Cuba. Venezuela. And soon New York.
The food shortages in the early USSR came as a legacy from the previous system that neglected to mechanize agriculture. To be fair the USSR rushed mechanization of agriculture and did mess up at first. But they fixed it and from then on they did not have any food shortages until the 1990s when they got neo-liberal shock-doctrined.

Cuba only has shortages because of the US embargo, which it upholds out of pure spite. Venezuela suffers shortages because of US sanctions. They will probably get admitted into BRICS and that'll fix it.

New York is not going to have food-shortages because it might have a socdem Mayor. That is just ridiculousness.

>Free markets are self regulating because when one person gets too big and greedy there are a dozen smaller people waiting to swoop in with lower prices. This idea that if you just leave everyone alone then 1 person will somehow end up owning everything is nonsense with no evidence in reality.
>The reason we see so much wealth centralization in our current economy is because of external mechanisms (the state) stepping in to protect big corpos with bailouts and protective tariffs and legal immunity and regulations that smaller competitors can't afford to comply with. And sometimes the state straight up force citizens to buy corporate products. All of that is what leads the wealth centralization.
That 1 person that corners the market, will use his wealth to entrench a monopoly. Happens every-time. If there is no power that can enforce his monopoly, he'll use his wealth to create it. You can only beat monopoly formation by preventing anybody from centralizing so much wealth in the first place. Monopolies get destroyed when either A) the state gets used for monopoly busting, or B) there is significant technology change and the big monopoly can't adapt to it. if you invent a cheap fusion reaction ExonMobile, BP, Shell etc will be fucked, at least if you can dodge their hitmen.

>Private companies make money through voluntary trade. Violence is a cost. An expense. A risk.
There used to be lots of feudal lords that each had little private armies and they fought little wars all the time. States took away Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>490450
>Never in the history of civilization have markets existed without a state to set them up.
Learn to read
<This statement is trivially disproven. What do you think a black market is? What government is controlling the darknet drug markets? People in Somalia ran their own stock market without a government. You don't need government to have property rights, free trade and free association. In the long run government destroys all 3 of those things.

>Everywhere capitalism emerged it was through looting and coercion.
Capitalism is the realization that voluntary cooperation and trade is more profitable than theft.

>The first step was to enclose the common land in Europe and thereby throw subsistence farmers into the cities so they could perform wage labor.
Nobody forced farmers to move into the cities. They did it because they made more money by being involved with higher stages of production.

>>490451
>Chiquita does to banana workers
Who was funded by the CIA who is funded by the state stealing money from workers through taxes.

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>>490511
>Meanwhile people literally starved to death in Ukraine.
Notably, for the last time in history in a region with regular famines records for centuries.

>>490487
I think they might use nukes if they are invaded and about to lose.

>>490487
>Will Isreal nuke all the major cities in the middle east to expand and force God to armegeddon and bring back jesus christ?
This is a bafflingly idiotic false dichotomy. The idea that the Christian concept of the Second Coming has anything to do with the Zionist nationstate called "Israel" is a lie made up to sell Zionism. Pre-Zionist Christian eschatology didn't hinge anything on a modern colonization project. Even the idea that a "Jewish return" would necessitate genocide was contradicted in scripture - it was a product of Zionists like Herzl (an atheist) and others whose plan was to colonize Palestine and forcibly remove the Christians and Muslims in order to do so. Zionism was gradually inserted into Christianity with increasing frequency during the 20th century, often very cynically, as in the case of the influential "Scofield Reference Bible," which was likely commissioned by a Zionist named Samuel Untermyer.

There are, today, Evangelicals in the US who would insist that this interpretation is the only one, but American Evangelicalism is basically a state religion with a bunch of political functions at this point, and stuff like Christian Zionism and "prosperity gospel" would, at other times, have been viewed as heresy.

On top of that, your question is built on a premise that only God as interpreted by Christian Evangelical Zionists is relevant to this question. I won't ask how old you are, but it's a really astonishingly naive premise. Even religious Jewish Zionists, who apparently exist, don't predicate their belief in God on the Evangelical Zionist narrative that killing all the non-Jews in Palestine will bring Jesus back and then all the non-Christians will burn forever. Jews don't believe Jesus was the messiah, of course religious Jewish Zionists don't predicate their religious or political beliefs on bringing back someone they consider to be a false prophet! They reject the New Testament! It's part of being Jewish. There are some Jewish people who believe Menachem Scheerson was the messiah, there were some Jewish people who believed Sabbatai Zevi was the messiah, but religious Jews in general do not believe Jesus of Nazareth was the messiah, so any conception of a "second coming" is dismissed.

Muslims believe in the Abrahamic God, and also believe tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.