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Right wing blood sport

A vote has passed in the congress to establish a right wing debate general to argue against right wing talking points and keep them from leaking out onto the rest of the board. From this point on all right wing discussion points should be confined to this thread and this thread will be used for debunking them and generally punching rightoids in the dick. All right wing nonsense posted outside of this thread will be subject to a deletion hence forth if deemed necessary.
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For breaking news, political developments, etc. especially from Lefty sources.

wsws spammer – post here or get fucked
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Reading General:

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engles Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.
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Russian Communist Party Manifesto Released:

Here is the party programme of the KPRF

>Stop the extinction of the country, restore benefits for large families, reconstruct the network of public kindergartens and provide housing for young families.

>Ban on abortion and contraception for ethnic Russians.
>Recognise ethnic Russians as founders of the state
>Nationalise natural resources in Russia and the strategic sectors of the economy; revenues in these industries are to be used in the interests of all citizens.
>Return to Russia from foreign banks the state financial reserves and use them for economic and social development.
>Break the system of total fraud in the elections.
>Create a truly independent judiciary.
>Carry out an immediate package of measures to combat poverty and introduce price controls on essential goods.
>Not raise the retirement age.
>Restore government responsibility for housing and utilities, establish fees for municipal services in an amount not more than 10% of family income, stop the eviction of people to the streets and expand public housing.
>Increase funding for science and scientists to provide decent wages and all the necessary research.
>Restore the highest standards of universal and free secondary and higher education that existed during the Soviet era.
>Ensure the availability and quality of health care.
>Vigorously develop high-tech manufacturing.
>Ensure the food and environmental security of the country and support the large collective farms for the production and processing of agricultural products.
>Prioritise domestic debt over foreign debt
>Bring former Soviet countries back under a new USSR.
>Support Communist parties abroad which pursue a Stalinist line.

>Introduce progressive taxation; low-income citizens will be exempt from paying taxes.

>Create conditions for development of small and medium enterprises.
>Ensure the accessibility of cultural goods, stop the commercialisation of culture, defend Russian culture as the foundation of the spiritual unity of multinational Russia, the national culture of all citizens of the country.
>Stop the slandering of the Russian and Soviet history.
>Take drastic measures to suppress corruption and crime. Restore the political crimes commission to enact justice on corrupt officials

>Strengthen national defense and expand social guarantees to servicemen and law enforcement officials.

>Ensure the territorial integrity of Russia and the protection of compatriots abroad.
>Institute a foreign policy based on mutual respect of countries and peoples to facilitate the voluntary restoration of the Union of States.
>Illegalise homosexuality and restore it as a mental illness in medical practice.
>Illegalise transgenderism.
>Increase the punishment for pushing LGBT ideology to 20 years in prison.
>Maintain a policy of party atheism while supporting the Russian Orthodox church as a cultural bulwark in Russia.
>Form a new Warsaw Pact with China, North Korea, Syria, Vietnam and other Socialist nations

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Ukraine 3.0

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.

Pro-Russia sources:

Pro-Ukraine sources:
Everywhere else
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I couldn't find it so i'll make a new one.
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Spaghetti elections general - facsist gesturing and actual issues edition

After headlines poured in about the 'far right' victory in Italy, I decided to do some digging.

Given that the media lies so much, I decided I shouldn't trust the 'far right' label thrown around by the walking SSRI addicted biomass globs known as journalists. Instead, I decided to try and figure what the Brothers of Italy's policies are. Here's where they stand on various issues according to:


I've judged each stance as based or cringe based on my own subjective opinion. Feel free to do the same yourself.

(These are all described by the aforementioned website as being the positions of the party's support base. It's very hard to find any media outlet to cite the party's platform on many issue. they're more concerned with repeating buzzwords like 'far right' ad nauseam while patting themselves on the backs for being 'serious journalists.')

Require employers to pay men and women the same for the same job - support (based)

Increasing environmental regulations to cut CO2 emissions - support (based)

State endorsed euthanasia - oppose (based)

Same sex marriage - oppose (don't care)

Adoption for gay couples - oppose (based)

Should Italy quit the EU - oppose (cringe but no real other option)

Death penalty - support (based)

Govt allowed to monitor electronic communication - oppose (based)

Tax incentives to keep businesses afloat - support (based, what do you think a SEZ in China is)

Require businesses to have female board members - oppose (based/who cares)

Raise minimum wage - support (based)

Gender reassignment surgeries for minors - opposed (based)

Quotas to limit the number of foreign migrants in the EU - support (based)

More privatization of healthcare - oppose (based)

Compulsory military service - support (kinda based tbh)

United States of Europe - oppose (based)

Term limits for MPs - support (based)

Ban disposable non biodegradable materials - support (based)

Instigate a war with Russia over Ukraine - oppose (literally don't care/lean based)

Vaccine passports - support (mega cringe)

While hardly ideal, this party seems leagues ahead of cadaver-looking eurofag bureaucrats who represent global oligarchal interests while waving a rainbow flag.

There you have it - the super scary 'neo facsists' that mediafags keep warning you about.

>Inb4: seething from people who equate 'left' with having a hormone imbalance

A strong, united working class is a prerequisite for further drives toward socialism. None of the policies
of Brothers of Italy are to the right of the Chinese Communist Party.
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What do you guys think of elite over production theory?

If you've never heard of it, it goes a bit like this:

Social unrest occurs during a period of economic stagnation following a period of economic growth. In this juncture, a coming-of-age generation achieved an education and expected to join the ranks of the elite or upper middle class. When reality hits them in the face, they encounter economic hardship, and their hopes fail to materialize, they turn to radical left wing politics. But, in effect, they seek to take out the old elite in order to make room for themselves.

A much more detailed summary can be found here:


To me, it seems plausible. Interestingly, it also comports with the theory of the causal factors of revolution laid out by John Foran in 'Taking Power' (which you should read if you don't want to be a psued all your life).

<Tldr: a bunch of reasonably smart and creative people develop their minds but have no outlet through which to socially/economically succeed with it. As a response, they turn to leftist politics and hope to 'overthrown heaven,' to make use of a Chinese term.

Pic related is Chou En Lai

>Like many others, the economic fortunes of Zhou's large family of scholar-officials were decimated by a great economic recession that China suffered in the late 19th century…

>According to Zhou's own account, he was very close to his adoptive mother and acquired his lasting interest in Chinese literature and opera from her. Madame Chen taught Zhou to read and write at an early age, and Zhou later claimed to have read the famous vernacular novel Journey to the West at the age of six.[8] By the age of eight, he was reading other traditional Chinese novels

Many such cases
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/webm/ thread

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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The axis of resistance is the target

This declared war has greater dimensions than Ukraine, and its goal is to qualify Russia to lead the world and to lead the axis of resistance and to rehabilitate Putin, who has a black history of seizing power, liquidating his opponents, violating the rights of the Russians, and trading power with Medvedev for decades, qualifying him to lead the axis of resistance. Which includes Iran, the Islamic resistance, the Palestinian and the Yemeni as well.. This is how the West hopes that Putin will become qualified to lead the peoples with the right judges. And to reproduce the old polarization with the Soviet Union, which was somewhat comfortable and did not threaten Israel in terms of existence as the resistance threatens Israel. If this situation indicates anything, it indicates that the real conflict exists, even if it is not visible, between Russia and the axis of resistance over the leadership of the peoples, and not between the United States and Russia. Putin is a creation of the West, not a representative of the Russian people. And now his view of Dugin has entered the line, and the goal of assassinating his daughter may be to float his Eurasian project, which is the new incubator of Israel.
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On the resilience of capitalism

Saying that capitalism is unstable is a cope. If anything, it's proven itself to be especially adaptive to social pressure, able to coopt and leverage social movements against socialism. It won the cold war and forced AES to concede in one way or another. Part of this, I presume, has to do with the financialize of the economy. Production, in essence, has taken a back seat of circulation. This has put workers on the backfoot when it comes to organizing. A recent article by Compact Magazine does a good job of laying out the case for the stability of capitalism. However, I also have misgivings about this line of thought, which I'll detail later in the comments:

>for the first half century or so after Marx’s death in 1883, the emphasis on instability seemed to be amply borne out. From the 1890s to the 1930s, not only did the system seem to be teetering on collapse, but the very contours of social conflict appeared to amply vindicate Marx’s expectations—it was the emerging industrial proletariat that was at the helm of the revolutionary outbreaks across the capitalist world…

>Classical Marxists and the postwar left were both wrong in their belief that capitalism was stabilized by something outside the class structure. The real source of social order in capitalism—of its stable reproduction over time—isn’t culture or ideology; it is the class structure itself. The structure ensures that individuals within the working class choose individualized forms of resistance over collective ones. They do so not because they fail to recognize their interests, as theories of false consciousness or cultural hegemony would have it. Both of these approaches insisted that workers in some way failed to understand their immediate material interests. Actually, it is because workers accurately perceive the risks and costs associated with collective action. Hence, they typically opt for individualized forms of advancement over collective ones. But to opt for an individualized strategy is nothing other than to accept the dominant position of the employer—and of capitalists as a class. It leaves unchallenged the employer’s structural power over the worker and seeks simply to maximize the worker’s welfare within the latter’s parameters. It is a tacit acceptance of the rules of the game, rather than an effort to transform or even challenge them…

>Institutions enabling working-class formation aren’t naturally occurring. They are hard to build, and the project of sustaining them as effective fighting organizations is even harder, which means they are highly vulnerable to destruction. Mistakes are therefore very costly—a badly timed strike can destroy a union, a corrupt leadership can demoralize the members, even the death of a leader can send an organization into decline. And the resulting losses can make the entire enterprise appear to be a Sisyphean undertaking. In sum, capitalism places the burden of class formation entirely on the shoulders of the working class. And this is why the process is highly contingent.

>Employers, on the other hand, have less need to generate their own class organizations, because their interests are preserved simply by the reproduction of the employment relation. The contrast with the conditions faced by labor is very stark. Capitalists don’t have to organize themselves in order to advance their interests. Since the class structure places every employer in a position of dominance over his employees, collective action is unnecessary to secure an advantage over the latter. As long as workers show up to work every day, as long as they submit to the terms of the employment contract, they also serve to advance the capitalist’s economic interests. This is the basic asymmetry between the two classes.

>Precisely because of this structural asymmetry, how the classes utilize their political agency is also very different. For laborers, any advance of their interests depends on building up and then sustaining institutions that enable collective action. The working class has to direct its political agency toward creating political organizations and defending them. But relative to labor, capital is relieved of this burden. Employers do benefit from creating class organizations of their own to coordinate their activities against labor. But this is not a precondition to their sustaining their position, much less advancing it. Their greater power is built into the class structure itself.

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Ukraine 2.0

Last Ukraine thread is full. Why don't we have a new one to stay out of other threads?

At the time of posting this, Ukraine's "methodical counteroffensive" in the Kherson Oblast has started. Where do you think this is headed, anon?

Let the debates begin!
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FIRE General Thread

Let's get a general thread about FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate). Include topics about crypto as well.
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>The "tax" for keeping the Second Amendment just increased by 14 kids and 1 adult.
>But, hey, it wasn't anyone you knew so what difference does it make, amirite?

Are we ready to ban the guns yet? Go ahead… I'm ready for the "thoughts and prayers" guntard playbook.
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Alexander Dugin's daughter killed in car bombing

It's now been confirmed that Darya Dugina, daughter of Russian political philosopher Alexander Dugin, has been assassinated in a car bombing in Moscow Oblast. Her father was supposed to be in the car, indicating that he was the target of the attack.

This has literally just happened and I will try to post updated news when I see it.
Link to the RWA twitter thread:
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The Russia and Ukraine war is just the next Israel/Palestine really. What I mean is for the working class especially in foreign countries this conversation on who to support Russia or Ukraine is bullshit. How could the working class decide to support one or the other? Well in truth it is not for the working class to to support or choose nations, fascism, democracy, or any other political form; how could this opposition organize itself? In fact how the hell could the Ukrainian proletariat oppose Russia? Or the proletariat of the West oppose NATO? The working class is in fact not a political body at all, they cannot make final judgement on these issues.
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The correct side is the side against Nazis in Ukraine

I think the conflict between Russia, Ukraine and the United States is going to turn into another Syria-esk conflict that divides the left pretty heavily. I want to be clear, the correct stance to take a stance against Ukraine and it's NATO alliance with the united states.

I don't necessarily care if you support Russia or don't support Russia. Russia is basically a theocratic totalitarian state at this point but when NATO was created in the late 80's an agreement of not moving "one inch to the east" was part of the compromise between the USA and the USSR. Since then how many other eastern bloc countries have joined NATO? It's plain and simple Ukraine joining NATO is an obvious act of aggression by the United States. Further more the Ukrainian military are basically ethno nationalists at this point. The military is infected with em.

Hands off Ukraine!
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"Eat the Rich" ?

After the meal, what is to be done to prevent new Rich from growing in their place right away?

Is there a strategy that involves eating the systems of the Rich, so as to prevent the cyclical occurrence of eating every few years?
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Gorbachev dead at 91.
The former Soviet leader has died.

>Pizza hut leaves Russian Federation

>Gorbachev does


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>Three Mass Shootings in America during one weekend
>New York State
>Republicans will defend all of this… Somehow.

Out of curiosity, how many mass shootings have there been in all of Western Europe over the weekend? Or this month? Or for the entire year, for that matter? Any guesses?

It's time to ban the guns. I know. Radical concept.
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Some clarification is necessary with regards to the Russo-Ukrainian War.
When Lenin quoted Clausewitz in saying "war is politics by other means", he should have appended "in capitalism" to it. Capitalism may generate crises that result in wars, but war is not about economic interest, nor is war merely a different expression of politics.
War is a political failure, appearing as one party (oftentimes the weaker one) using force to "negotiate" and to achieve their goals. War is ultimately a pseudo-politics that relies on morally blackmailing others to pick a side. It is pseudo-politics because politics is not about morality or justice, despite any such motivations, but is about freedom and power.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies in capitalist politics, opportunistically taking positions based on political clout. Of course a socialist movement should take advantage of divisions among the ruling class, but it should also point out the rotten and unprincipled positions that members of the ruling class tend to take in this context (bourgeois pacifism, bourgeois defeatism, et cetera).
Socialist politics is the class struggle, the struggle to organize the working class to seize political power without national boundaries; all other activity ought to be subordinate to this goal. Socialists ought not cede to capitalist politics by taking sides on capitalist wars.
We are constantly being manipulated by capitalist politics, making it difficult for us to imagine an alternative. Therefore, our first step should be to ask how we can organize workers independent of capitalist policy.
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/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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Lifestylism is a major problem in the American Left. It encourages purity spirals and alienates tentative supporters. Shitting and pissing because a leftist is economically successful feeds into the liberal argument that socialists are all just loser burnouts bitter at the world. Stop it.
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Can I get a redpill on this fella? I don't know how to wade through the propaganda and get a clear picture of him. Was he just a pure fabricator? A useful idiot for Western imperial ambitions?
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>Trump's Home has been raided by the Fed's and the Right is on suicide watch.
Where were you when Civil War II Electric Boogaloo was canceled?
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Ukraine's Thread, for fuck's sake
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Is this shit even worth talking about?
Some retard shot up an FBI feild office in Connecticut. Probably some maga retard who thinks he's fighting a revolution. What is the deal with these people?
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"Just" War and Warfare Against Capitalist States

Was gonna make this thread on that other site but got smacked with an insane bullshit ban for hurting a janny's feelings, so let's see if we can get an interesting discussion here instead. Since the end of the Thirty Years' War and the Peace of Westphalia, Western warfare had been conducted through rules of engagement excluding the targeting of civilians. Sherman's March to the Sea was an early exception, and the Japanese civilian bombings in China in the early 1930s seemed to shock many Western powers at the time. However, it wasn't until World War II when the major powers threw this idea completely out the window and began targeting civilians in mass with the justification that long-range aerial bombardment can theoretically quickly bring a conflict to an end where previous conventional wars had been bogged down. Modern military power is such that most belligerents can reduce the others' cities to rubble or kill each others' populations indirectly through the targeting of infrastructure if they choose to.

Let's say the workers in a country have just won a revolution against their own capitalists and they now find themselves at war with other capitalist powers. Is there any room left for restraint among anti-capitalists when it comes to targeting noncombatants in the 21st century? Can or should anti-capitalists engage in "just" warfare when fighting for their existence?
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We're completely fucked

The FED just popped the biggest bubble in the history of man kind and we are about to experience one of the most dramatic down turns in history.

The question is what are YOU doing in order to take control of history and lead the prolotariate out of this endless market anarchy?

Look at this:

subprime loans are begging to default

This is the same kind of predetory borrowing that we saw in the 2008 financial crisis and these people, forced to choose between debt and good in the face of infaltion, obviously are choosing food.

Fanne Mae expects economic contraction in the housing market.


Not only are subprime loans defaulting, but, the housing market bubble is finally about to crash; At historic highs the housing market bubble is about to crash and, of course, the poorest people are the only ones who are going to loose to this and massive monopolies like blackrock are going to get much richer.

Food Shortages are about to occur

Ukraine and Russia are just the tip of the ice burg. Ukraine and Russia are responsible for a not so insignificant portion of the worlds exports of grains and if you haven't noticed sanctions on Russia and war against Ukraine are making global wheat supplies dry up.


India has started Closing off to the global economy and egypt has as well and many other countries are about to follow as this becomes a cascading effect where each country is looking out for its own.

African nations are literally about to straight up starve. The sitution is extremely dire.

Economics say it could be 3 - 4 years before we bounce back, but, nowing the truth I think we are about to enter a straight up great depression the likes of which we have never seen and will not even remotely bounce back till 2030. As we all know this is because of the greater over arching system of capital and its mad dash for profits, but, the fed raising interest rates after lowering them in covid might have just done the trick.

Prepare for dark days ahead.

More reading:



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Observers seem totally lost regarding the latest developments. They cannot put the pieces together and they jump from one place to another not knowing where to head or where to reach. Some observers are completely lost . One analyst today said that the US is unable to overcome Russia, and therefore it hopes to push Russia into China’s arms and after that it would be easy to deal with China because the US will deal with it the same way it dealt with the USSR, and will cause its collapse . This is close to delirium and is just to give you an idea about how people are looking at things . Certainly , the situation is complicated and what makes it more complicated is that no one is looking at facts or is giving a good reading of what is happening , and they are either linked to a certain agenda or starting from a wrong assumption . No one wants to understand the reality about the war on Ukraine and they want to see in it a righteous cause or a Russian self defense initiative while it is something totally different and is a conspiracy on Ukraine and on Russia and on the world security and stability , and will cause penury and food shortages. What we are witnessing is the next chapter after the Covid 19 conspiracy that has struck all societies and undermined them socially , financially and economically. But the tendency is to see in this a Russian cause at the time the NATO missiles were not even deployed and Ukraine is Not a NATO member and has difficulties joining the EU even . And this will lead to partitioning Ukraine and displacing the people and sanctioning Russia only to find new markets for the israeli gas in Europe . No one wants to investigate Putin’s past to find out who Putin is, for how to invest in someone who has starved his own people by stealing the money reaped from exchanging foods in return of minerals ? The media now is demonizing Putin – they say- but this not true because no one is casting a light on his past and this recent demonization is to remain for consumption and will never reveal who Putin is . As for the alignment USA+Gulf Countries+israel it was outshined by the spectacular Iran+Russia +Turkey alignment after Turkey has been promoting its relations with israel and the gulf countries and when Russia is still coordinating with israel the raids over Syria that have multiplied lately . And they say that this is a strategic alliance between the 3 and many are buying this, keeping in mind that withholding Turkey from annexing more Syrian territories was costly on Iran and sounded like a victory while Turkey is occupying large portions of Syria still and is not carrying on the Sochi agreements . In comparison, the Riyad alignment seemed dim and this is intentional, and bin Salman who has been granted a small victory by his US sponsor seems over secured and will not deliver the full amount of required oil because simply the ceiling of productivity has been reached and cannot be transgressed . These are small insignificant victories reached on both sides . They are only a waste of time and a further blurring of the situation but everyone seems satisfied except those who really are seeking truth and looking for answers .
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Hostage to Putin, cynically exploited by Biden

Free Brittney Griner!
>The basketball star is an innocent victim of the reactionary conflict between US imperialism and the Putin regime in Moscow.

The USSR and the USA used to trade captured spies, which each considered an asset. The haggling was done quietly and behind closed doors. Now, the US and Russia - and others - frame and use just about anyone as a bargaining chip for geopolitics.

In this case, obviously politics is overriding justice. Ms. Griner's medical records and doctor's prescription are evidence of medical necessity. She was not using hard drugs for recreation or entertainment. She should have never been arrested or imprisoned. Putin's regime is opportunistic as are others.

In a capitalist dominated world, everyone is treated as a commodity and disposable (at minimum expandable). Worse, even entire countries are being used as proxies, such as Ukraine and Taiwan, not just ordinary citizens. Millions of human beings suffer as a result of geopolitics.
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Was the internet good or bad for radical leftists and pro-revolutionarys? Before the internet you were say either in or out of the local groups, you disagreed with a few things, and you're kicked out, burn the heretic. This either led to people making their own group, conforming, or just abandoning theory all together, to become one of those people who called it just a "phase" now they happily vote liberal. The internet allowed these disgruntled and say vagabond, despised people to spread their books and pamphlets, now everybody interested could read what they had to say and those not possessed by the local mantra could become a follower. Everything said on here, the internet is nothing, it has no value whatsoever, irl groups had more power of course around town, but they're still as powerless as groups on the internet are.
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Leftypol is a shithole and so are 95 % of the users. Perfect example imo, is this, and the Israel vs Palestine shit, even though that is a bit different. I don't give a damn about this conflict or any conflict, or supporting the people of Ukraine, my first and foremost goal is the revolution, the destruction of capitalism. Also from what I've read there and in the Ukraine thread, their proposed anti-imperialism is just whining about US imperialism, while supporting Russia and China (both capitalist states), this is in fact entirely pro-capitalist.
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This board's users are no different from 09a cultists

You are all mentally deranged, cultists who will not succeed in your attempt to subvert healthy societies to international socialism, there is nothing good here. Your administration support a virtue signalling cult where dissent is not allowed, you do not have free thought. A society which operates under your principles and rule will inevitable collapse. There is no hope in leftist or any other politics which attempts to subvert the raw, tribal society.
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socialism is giving resources to wrong people, and not giving them to good people

i hate socialism –karl marx
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/brg/ Brasil General /brg/

Tanks in Brasilia edition

Last one got full

Bolsonaro calls a review of troops to intimidate congress in the day of the printed ballots amendments is to be voted
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I think I found the only* (matriarhal) comunist society in the animal kingdom

BEES are the only* (dunno for sure) purely matriarhal communist society in the animal kingdom.

A deep analisys of how they interact with eachoter, how to act, what they believe, what they decide and what they like is the same between all types of bees, be them male or female

All the types of bees:
Male worker bees
Female worker bees
Qween (worker) bee

The Male worker bees are the Male counterpart of the Female worker bees, but the differences between the Males and the Females are:
-Males are fully sexually developed (they can reproduce and shiet)
-Males are bigger and stronger = get more resources = consume more
-Males have a different way of flying (they "levitate" above the ground, keeping an altmost perfect height above it, like in those superconductor videos; when they land, it's like a crash landing, or like a monkey when he jumps from tree to tree but he's about to fall because he's very close to not getting a good grip), which still bamboozeles scientists (Area51 already figured it out, that's from eye witnesses seeing different aircraft behaving like superconductors)
That's about the differences between Male and Female worker bees

The differences between Female and Qween bees:
Qween bees are sexually matured (they can procreate)
Qween bees are harder to create (they consume ~3x more than a regular Female worker bee)
Qween bees require ~10 Male worker bees to mate effectevily (I remember this from years ago), who later die cuz their ding ding dongs got ripped ripped off
Qween bees can be made in higher numbers (more than 1-2) in case threaths are seen by any of the hive members while carrying their duties towards helping the Hive

NOTE: Hives' populations aren't greater than some town's (~30k or so | https://schoolofbees.com/how-much-does-a-beehive-weigh/)

Hives might also go against one another if they are of a different race, belief or place, them preffering to stick togheter and help only their own race to survive (homogenous "echo-chamber" society, otherwise communism wouldn't take place because there would be medium-big differences in the bees' brains, creating divisions and separation, creating new homogenous societies that follow this rule)

TL;DR: Nature shows us that Communism can be practiced ONLY when everyone in that society knows each-other arround 80% of the time (everyone would know each-other to a general idea under 50k at about 80%, the smaller it is, the higher the chances that everyone would know eachother), everyone has the same beliefs, race and place of province, making Bees matriarhal (the qween is protected more cuz she's more expensive to make, but can be replaced if the Hive thinks so) communists that are homogenous and xenophobic (more like national communists, if you think about it)
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COVID 19 - I have a doubt

> You won't reach herd immunity with pfizer
My country is over 85% vaccinated and there's still a push to get more people vacced, still restrictions, still mandates.

> Omicron is a ticket out of the pandemic

It's not deadly and getting will give you immunity to the virus. There's no reason to be worried about it.

> Pfizer doesn't reduce your chances of death

> There's no reason for young people to get the shot

Little kids don't go to the hospital for covid, that's not a thing. So why
are they being pushed to get the vaccine? Or even forced to wear masks in
schools for that matter?

> The pcr tests over-report deaths

Apparently there's no such thing as asymptomatic covid carriers.

I didn't know any of this and I have two shots of pfizer. I regret getting
it fully. I think my government (and the news) lied about everything covid related.
Vaccine safety and efficacy, fake measures, etc.

I am convinced at this point that science and medicine is on the same side as
the trucker protest in Ottawa, Canada.

It's so upsetting watching leftists both online and offline fail to realize what's going on. And what's going on is so large in scope and so devious that it makes me quite scarred. I can kind of understand why it's a tough thing to swallow but from what I've read COVID is mostly a conspiracy against workers by the rich, and what's happening is not at all backed by science or medicine but through censorship and propaganda is being allowed to happen.
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The PLA will conduct military drills in these regions around Taiwan in August 4-7

They're calling it a special "military exercising and training operation"
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Are there good arguments for why communists should or should not become entrepeneurs, landlords or investors?
What should the few bourgoisie who find themselves sympathetic to communism be directing their efforts towards?
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pure Ideology

That's quite a normie subject, but it only makes it more concerning
So, stranger things season 4 just dropped and something caught my attention:
>Kate Bush - Running up that hill is the season main song
>This very same song was used for several of the esoteric fascist meme of "hyperborean edits"


Considering the very premises the show runs into, such as MK ultra like experiments, parallel words within our own (such as the hyperborean mith itself), all indicates that Hollywood is actively working to constitute this esoteric fascist mythos, and bringing it to the mainstream
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Are they run by FBI agents?

I have often heard it said that the FBI took over Communist Party USA back during the Cold War, and that the organization is now used as a honeypot to trap socialists. Is this true?
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Tech Fascists in the Federal government control election outcomes

They do this through communications obstruction.

They fabricate support where there is none through astroturfing and censor all dissent to give the appearance that anyone they want won.

Internet is the primary mode of communication.

ISPs can censor DNS, DNS can censor clearnet, clearnet tech companies can censor anyone using their platforms, and Tech-Fascist Feds can upload illegal content to any rival platforms to raid and capture it under the guise of enforcing the laws.

But it's the Feds themselves behind it all, since they control the kill switch, 47 USC 202. They can shut down the ISPs, DNS, and tech sites for violating 47 USC 202 and nullify 47 USC 230 at any time.

It's Tech-Fascists in the Federal government's law enforcement pulling the strings to rig elections and it doesn't matter if you're Left, Right, or anything else because the elections in the USA are totally illegitimate and have been since 1996.

The solution to this issue might just be to make state laws protecting communications from obstruction, then arresting everyone that played a role in the conspiracy to undermine the USA's democracy, including the Federal law enforcement themselves.
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is this true?
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Kek, all you honkies that shit on idpol you're about to get rekt.
Can't wait to repeat back your own talking points to you soon.
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Is this place different from leftypol.org?
I am just curious because both the places have /leftypol/ board, however, the domain name is different. Leftypol.org is a shithole so I just wanted to make sure.
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The Incel Solution: Communism

Do you ever wonder why low-status white men can go to Southeast Asia and can easily get brides compared to the United States? Because even if he's poor in America, he's relatively richer there, meanwhile women in his native country wouldn't give him the time of day because by American standards he's poor, ugly and fat. In other words, that man has been cockblocked in his own country by the rich who have brainwashed everyone. That poor bastard doesn't have millions of dollars, so he's not attractive in America.

Then /pol/yps wonder why white birthrates are declining. Or why men drop out of the dating game. They don't feel like they can live up to these impossible and disgustingly filthy bourgeois standards.

It's all part of a theme, really. A system that benefited men – and particularly white men – in the past is not benefiting them now. Worse for them, the system that white people in America built (although they weren't the only ones who built it) and based their living on is beginning to betray them, or so they feel. Even worse than that, they fear that might end in righteous revenge from the growing ranks of angry black men, angry brown men, and maybe even some angry Asian men too who have been oppressed by the same rich, white elite this whole time, leading to a white "doomsday."

Because after all, someone came to pick the cotton and do the "dirty jobs" that white plantation and business owners or their kids with their inheritances didn't want to do. Or it was fine as long as the people who came to do the jobs (sometimes against their will) "served" as nice, obedient "Uncle Toms" and "Uncle Pedros" and "Uncle Chens" who were oppressed – and still are oppressed – by the same white elite beauty standards.

But you can't expect that to last forever.

So Americans simply need to reeducate themselves. Unite. Protest against the rich. Protest against the beauty standards that the rich, white elite have used to brainwash everyone and that makes poor, ugly, fat white guys hate themselves in their own country so much that they'd rather move to Thailand or Vietnam or the Philippines so they can get married.

While we're at it, the American monopoly capitalists who have enslaved and brainwashed the oppressed masses should refund the third-world countries for the amount of money and blood they suck from them. Americans – and this goes for people in the West generally – should develop a culture of respecting male and female workers of all races. They should also try cheering on marriages between two poor black people rather than two monarchic clowns in London.

Then maybe the /pol/yps can avoid some of the negative "karma" that they've built up over all these years. Then maybe instead of white "doomsday" at the hands of the non-white people who have also been oppressed by the rich, white elites, we can unite and struggle together to build a society without racism, sexism, or class oppression – and where everyone can get married and have a family, because people won't be brainwashed into thinking the poor fat white guys are ugly anymore. They're not ugly! We refuse to accept this bourgeois lie! No longer will a high-born prince or princess be able to refuse to accept the love from an honest, dirty worker.

Some people don't like my ideas. But they can have it the nice way, or the not-so-nice way. Or they can just grow old and angry, just like the boomers, and crawl into a hole in a place they hate and die. Or they can take a leap into communism, which is the only thing that can end this revenge from angry Asian and black and brown men once and for all. It's not too late to stop the upcoming of the doomsday which Asian and African and other people are suffering now.

We have a world to win.
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Roe vs Wade and precedent: An autistic perspective

Roe vs Wade and precedent: An autistic perspective


And yes, an autistic genocide is likely enough that we should be very conscious of it. It's especially plausible considering that climate change will reduce global food supply and stability while the world population is rising. Moreover, the propaganda from Autism Speaks, and, more broadly, the autism awareness movement, mean that in the case of genocide or mass eugenics, Autistic people will be targeted far more than anyone else.
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free assange, last change

If Assange is handed over to the US, they are going to murder him.

If he is to survive, there is a pressing need to get him released or help him escape.
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How should we best ban alcohol from society? It is clear that alcohol is harmful to personal health and the abuse of alcohol seems to be greater than the economic benefits of it's normal consumption.
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What's your current thoughts on strategies towards socialism?

From what I have gathered there's at least a guiding principle. That is that the proletariat can only come into its own through practical experience. This means that the transitional movements into socialism should treated with more interest and enthusiasm(rather than only a temporary evil). Local councils and credit unions should have control over their own capital. City capitalism instead of State capitalism. Give all workers experience and responsibility with the production and distribution of the social product.

Then transition into labor vouchers. With an empowered social body all around, there's not a need, and likely a disincentive, for any bureaucratic managers trying to leech off society. An actual withering away of the state and its old politics.

I think the left took a wrong turn somewhere that emphasized the vanguard as too much of an academic mission. Leading to a lot of the bad politics we see today, where the fight over consensus is the main struggle. If someone doesn't agree with a particular interpretation of their own economic experience then they're an enemy. Education really happens through practical hands-on experience and not (only) book reading.
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The Absolute State of Libertarians

We've been dropping truth bombs about Marxism, and there's actually a ton of people conceding about the LTV and how even Adam Smith recognized it's manifest truth and then their lack of chins always derails them into this

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Glowuyghurs be damned, I'm just not scared of you clowns anymore. Everyone should go full NEET now. Drop out of school, quit working, leech off your GF and family, church and state. Work is exactly the problem. If you're not working to dismantle work at your work (aka, not a saboteur or wobchad) just stop the fucking enabling. Make your landlord cry. Make everyone cry who just doesn't "get it". There is a terrible, demonic conspiracy that exploits your brothers and sisters. Refuse to feed it.
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This place needs a new icon for us leftychads, the .ogre transhumanists will sneed, the 100+ ABSOLUTE CHADS will bathe in high quality posts as the .ogre transhumanists will wallow in total subhumanity. Let's equip the OLD leftypol icon and disassociate with the .ogres entirely.
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Some questions about the italian mafia

Why were they glorified in the united state
Why were they criminals in the first place
Why were they so much more violent compared to modern gangs in the united states
What was their political influence and the ideas they stood for
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Brazil's President, Bolsonaro, Asked Biden for Help on Re-election


All US CPUs are backdoored by Silicon Valley. Any data or computation can be changed, deleted or stolen. It uses radio, works even without Net access, including for BR voting machines. That is why Bolsonaro decided to ask Biden and not Xi or Putin. Your CPU is compromised too.

Safe to say that Bolsonaro only was elected in 2018 because the US defrauded the election for him and now he wants a repeat.
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The Mechanica of Power ?

Anyone know of a good book on a scientific analysis of power?

I mean like the very LOGISTICS of how a poeer structure exists. Doesn't have to be government, but that's the major thing one would talk about.
Like we obviously understand a king/chief has polic3 he van order to throw someone in the dungeon, etc. but I want something really broken down with lots of technical terms and autism. Not only kings/rulers and revolutions that ocerthrow them, but even something like "the mechanics of blackmail" for instance.

Any ideas?
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Some black nationalists are within British political power

I've done some research into some local people sources and in the UK ever since the first black police officer British police have had and still have black nationalists in there ranks and some of them are using that position to push for more ethnic tensions between blacks and whites we shouldn't be encouraging this as leftists we should be fighting to fix this problem it's not about sides it's about the working class so please let us do more research on this because it happening with the whites as well within British police.
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Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread

The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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Opinions on the Unabomber and specially his manifesto
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Janitors is a psyop called cointelpro for the most part are made from synthetic fibers and the rest are all the same here in this country so we have to be able and not be afraid of what is going to be
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What is leftypols true opinon on blockchain?

I think hat block chain has huge benefit to mankind and how we can allocate resources in society but even crypto like bitcoin itself I think needs to be defended. Bitcoin and decentralized networks of finance, whether you believe it or not is Important IMO. Even if it flies in the face of our own ideals. It is a step forward for people. Think about how many people have never even entertained the ideals of decentralization before bitcoin and blockchain? Now its fresh in the ears of millions of people who may not have ever known such a formation was possible.

There's many powerful interests that want to see block chain destroyed or controlled by their influence. (The same people who we want to fight against)

And this is why I think we should be defending crypto at the end of the day.
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Why do other races buy into racial idpol so much compared to whites? Don't they understand that the world has already moved on since this race thing was relevant?
Also, share your soviet era posters/graphics depicting racial unity against capitalism. It's surprisingly hard to find on most popular image search engines.
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hello anons, do you guys think that dialectical holism is confluent with dialectical materialism? here is a link to a dissertation summarizing it:

if you want a decent summary, check out pages 299-310 of the pdf. i believe it presents a solution to the problem of consciousness that is more continuous with cybernetics than many other approaches…

<II. Metaphysical Pillars

>(1) Nominalism – This system is anti-realist about abstract structures including: (i) propositions; (ii) properties; (iii) universals; and (iv) worlds. In the case of (i), (ii), and (iii), the dialectical holist relies upon a coherence theory of knowledge (see below) that considers these terms conceptual tools that do not directly correspond to anything independent in the world. Concerning (iv), the ‘possibilities’, or counterfactual ‘worlds’ are converted into hypotheses. In all cases, a great deal of effort is exerted to distinguish between these linguistic structures and the empirical phenomena to which they refer, or from which they are derived.
>(2) Process Ontology/Dialectical Relations – What exist in nature are relatively stable, modes of organization instantiated through dialectical processes. This is to say that nothing exists intrinsically, but only as interdependent dynamical relations (i.e. mutually contingent or interdependent). While universal patterns (i.e. forms, unifying principles, or implicate orders) of respective spatiotemporal scales may be identified, they are granted no independent ontological status, but are believed to exist in and through intra-relational processes of the whole within which they obtain.
>(3) Neutral Monism – Natural evolution, just as the advance of scientific and philosophical theories, are both recapitulated as the self-differentiation of a single whole or Concrete Universal. Mind and matter are considered two modes of a single whole that is not to be identified with either the qualities of matter as empirically observed, or with phenomenality. Importantly, while respective forms are understood to be emergent with respect to one another – matter exists as a plurality of unifying principles or organizations – each of which is not an addition to, but abstractions from the neutral whole, i.e. a scale of forms or holomovement. The resulting “dialectical whole” is considered a synthetic a priori presupposition of science, philosophy, and phenomenology, i.e. this structure-process is fundamental to our knowledge (paradigms) and in Nature (ontology).
<IV. The Universe as a Complex System
>(1) Process/structural ontology – Process ontology in combination with OSR is a viable (if not preferable) foundation for understanding complex systems. Accordingly, relational processes constitute entieis at all scales though the two are ontologically equal and interdependent.
>(2) Emergent constraints – Forms arise through self-organization that both restrict and enable future states, dynamics, structures, and relations.
>(3) Deterministic function – The components of a complex system are interrelated/coupled such that if one of the constituents is absent the function (or evolutionary trajectory) is incomplete.
>(4) Historicity – Complex systems are path-dependenent meaning small events can become locked-in to constrain future dynamics and emergent structures.
>(5) Hierarchical levels – Nested structures obtain within complex systems, each requiring different (irreducible) descriptions.
>(6) Situated dynamics – The constituent states/structures depend upon the environment within which they are embedded.
>(7) Intricate and cycling behaviour – Complex systems obtain between simple order and total chaos, which instantiates periodic behavior that does not exactly repeat.
>If the Universe is a complex system, its function is identified with a space of determinant forms/states that obtain throughout its evolution (E).
<IV – b. Revised Criteria for Scales (ϕ)
>(1) Identification of ϕs should involve at least three parameters, whose combined values are unique to the respective scale: (i) structure – a-temporal relations within an identifiable boundary; (ii) kinetics – capacity to do work via energy transference (ET chain of a particular form); and (iii) periodicity (relatively stable self-organized spatiotemporal dynamics).
>(2) While some relations will be multiply realized across scales, i-iii results in a function that arises at a global level for each ϕ that is indicative of emergent laws, formal governance, or a PSE). Importantly, the emergence of such laws should be explicable in terms of symmetry breaking.
>(3) The formal governance of a given scale ϕa, will permit certain (thermo-) dynamic relations and phase transitions both within and beyond its bounds (e.g. order parameter and some self-organized boundary conditions), that permit the (at least second-order) emergence of scales ϕa 1 , ϕa 2 , ϕa 3 … ϕa n , dependent upon ϕa.
>(4) As a result of their irreducibility, it should be impossible to conduct a priori investigations from a given ϕ to its neighbors. While common principles will be discovered that unite identifiable ϕ with increasing systematization, their discovery and relationships will require ongoing a posteriori observation.
>(5) Just like the investigation of states within an infinite dimensional phase space or structures within a fractal curve, it is hypothesized that the discovery of scales (i.e. phases) will be ongoing.

i think the weirdest part is the teleological anthropic principle which ive honestly not looked too deep into
<III – e. Dialectical Argument for the TAP
>(P1) Teleology (in dialectical holist terms) obtains iff particular entities X bear a dialectical relation to their wider system Y such that the physical nature of Y depends upon the physical nature of X and the nature of X depends upon the dynamical constraints of Y.
>(P2) Some material phenomena (X) bear a dialectical relation to their superordinate system (Y).
>(P3) X instantiates irreducible relations (laws) that are necessitated by the constraints of Y.
>(C1) If ∃R instantiates irreducible dynamics (laws), then this phenomenon can be considered the result of a teleological process (E) instantiated by U

anyways what do you guys think?
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Could China take over North Korea if it wanted to? It seems as though, without China, North Korea would seemingly collapse overnight.

I can only imagine that China could stage a "soft coup" and force North Korea to become a part of China.
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How do I become a better socialist? Having dealt with the American healthcare system for the past 3 years, I can't even begin to bring myself to defending capitalism anymore. It doesn't create a better product or service; It just makes for a more conniving business strategy and if, by chance, that creates a better product… All the better for THEIR bottom line.

Had enough; What do I have to do to bring about a socialist utopia?
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How the fuck is this piece of shit alive?

Seriously, what the fuck is the assholes problem? How deep are the hands in his pockets? up his ass?
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Crytpo Crash General

The Crypto market is crashing and hard.
General thread for crypto crash 2022

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What's the point in having science and scientists if all you people are going to do is cherry-pick the stuff you agree with and toss out the stuff that you don't?

You realize that you don't get to choose your own reality, right? There's only one reality and it's kinda sorta important to figure out what that reality is. That's how progress is made… Figuring out that reality and then designing procedures to best utilize that reality to solve the problems that our society faces.

I thought you so-called "intellectuals" would understand that fact. Apparently, you don't.
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So there are some type of nano-chip that is smaller than rice, is black in colour and has GPS capabilities, you can't even notice it and we may have them inside ourselves.
1. they can see us from the sky with the St Satelite
2. they can track us with phones (can be blocked with faraday bags)
3. they can now track us with nano-chip (if you deny this, then deny that while we in 1950's we couldn't even access advanced cameras, while the army had Ultra-High Quality infrared cameras on their Air-to-Air missiles, the army has technology far ahead of anything we have, they have supercomputers the size of an office computer (talking bout the secret army, dug deep underground), which means that they already have tech beyond our comprehension)

NOTE: arround that size is the chip
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Forced vaccinations

What is leftychan opinion on forced vaccinations? I'm on the fence about it. On one hand I don't think workers should be loosing their jobs. On the other hand I think it's kind of selfish and stupid to be a fucking child about getting the poke when your inaction effects the lives of every one around you possibly with death.

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True low-cost universal healthcare will only be achievable when the population adopts scientifically valid practices, such as abolishing alcohol, cigarettes & marijuana.
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OC Thread 9.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
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Do you support the taliban? From reading comments here I've seen some support for them but idk if it's people trolling or /Pol/yps

What are your thoughts?

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/mlm/ - Maoism General

While there are surely some people interested in Maoism on /leftypol/, the tendency has no noticeable presence here. From my observation Maoism has been gaining traction in socialist communities online recently. Though the ideology's influence is still relatively small, I'm optimistic that we're witnessing the earlier stages of Maoists winning leadership in the movements of the working class which will result in the reconstitution of Communist Parties guided by MLM. I started this thread to spur investigation and discussion amongst potential comrades.

Why Maoism? https://tjen-folket.no/index.php/en/2019/08/14/why-maoism-what-is-maoism/
"Maoism is developed in the first place by six great communist leaders: Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Gonzalo."
"The rightist line led China back to capitalism, and dismantled the dictatorship of the proletariat into a fascist state. (…) But the cultural revolution and Mao Zedong Thought inspired millions of people all over the world, and led to the creation of a number of new communist parties on a revolutionary basis. They started people’s wars in Peru, India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Nepal."
"Gonzalo and the PCP maintain that Mao’s mass line, the line for the protracted people’s war and the line for the cultural revolution are the foremost examples of Maoism’s universal applicability, along with Maoism’s advancement of Marxism’s philosophy and economy."
"Gonzalo Thought is Maoism applied to the concrete conditions for revolution in Peru, but it is the universal conclusions in these thoughts that apply to the rest of the world."

Maoist Resources:

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The French Situation

>Marine Le Pen open to appointing leftists if she wins French presidency

<“I could very well have people, for example, from the Chevènement left, in other words a sovereigntist left, a left which supports re-industrialisation, the defence of our great industries,” she told RTL radio.

<“There are lots of people on the left who are attached to French secularism — which fits well, it’s a fundamental issue for me — who are attached to education and are very opposed to the way in which Emmanuel Macron is planning to destroy schooling,” Le Pen said.
<“There are lots of people attached to the civil service, when Emmanuel Macron is in the process of sinking the state,” she added. “Those people could equally be part of my government.”

So it increasingly appears that the upcoming french election will embody the "neoliberalism vs everyone else" attitude that is growing in liberal democracies across the world.
Macron, the firmly centrist neoliberal candidate, is all but guaranteed a place in the second round; but who his rival will be has been uncertain throughout the past few months. Zemmour, Le Pen, Melenchon, all oppose Macron's laissez faire, europhile, small-government views for their own reasons and have all seen surges in the polls. And crucially their voters disapprove of Macron's ideas too, meaning that whoever does take on Macron in the second round will need to appeal to both the far-right and ideologically socialist sections of the electorate to be in with a chance of winning.

As Marxists, we should be hoping that this situation forces socialists like Melenchon to address the concerns of the large right-wing voting working class, who have been disillusioned from the left because of issues such as immigration, liberal idpol, the EU and sovereignty. Hopefully getting the European left back on track and focusing on what really matters after an extended period of decline and decadence. However, this is almost certainly wishful thinking. The most likely scenario is that we end up with a Macron v Le Pen second round.

So the question is, how should socialists approach national conservative candidates when offered an olive branch? After all, on paper we agree with them more than we do with neoliberals like Macron. But is it all just a dastardly trick to get our precious vooots, or is this a crucial moment for us to take advantage of opportunistic reactionary politicians, and help weaken the global neoliberal order and its powerful organisations such as the EU and NATO?
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Russian Thread

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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Oc thread

Post all your oc. I did some, I did a bit.
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DOOMERS BTFO! Climate Change has been averted
Expect mass suicides by the /r/collapse crowd
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Pic related is how tankies use the same logic as European colonizers.
I believe that soviet occupation of eastern Europe is exactly the same as European colonialism of places like Africa and India. This is because countries like Estonia and Lithuania are quite distinct from Russia. Even western and central Ukraine has a healthy reason to stand aside from Soviet or Russian claims.
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Why do they always start revolutions in industrially backwards shitholes?

Haven't they read Marx?
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The Banderites

Let's talk about Sheldon from The Big Bang Theory and his gang.

I mean, Stepan Bandera, OUN-UPA [Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and Ukrainian Insurgent Army] and their relevance in today's Ukraine and its politics.
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What's going on with south korea? The opposition candidate is said to have won off an anti-sjw platform

>He is seen in ROK as an Masculinist & Anti-Feminist, being framed as the "Candidate of Incels", promising to “Abolish the Gender Equality Ministry”, something that could be compared to Trump’s “Build the Wall”, of the Moon's Liberal Government that promoted Radical-Feminist ideologies into 🇰🇷 ROK society

>Yoon blames the later point, the spread of Feminism in South Korean society, for the Low birthrates in ROK, which angered (a lot) the so-called "K-Pop" fans in South Korea
>Yoon has a kind of Laissez-faire Economic policy, which attracted the support from ROK Libertarians
>Yoon, despite having participated in the Gwangju Uprising, expressed favorable views on the Government of the "Far-Right" Military Strongman, General Chun Doo-hwan that ruled ROK from 1980 to 1988 via a military coup
> He is overtly Anti-China, to such extent South Korean liberals call him an "Extreme anti-chinese Racist" & "Xenophobic"
>Yoon has a Belligerent Policy towards DPRK (North Korea), more than any Candidate than the ROK Military Juntas of Cold War
>Yoon is in Explicitly in favor of deploying Tactical Nuclear Weapons in South Korea/ROK to counter the Nuclear weapons of DPRK (North Korea)
>He vowed to get as much as possible THAAD systems from US to counter the "DPRK Threat", something that many South Korean liberals see as "dangerous to the policy of unification of Korea"
>Unlike the South Korean Liberals, Yoon and his faction have a Pro-Japanase stance and shares Japan views on 🇰🇵 DPRK and 🇨🇳 China
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to signal your support for world peace and the soviet union, please post your favorite ukrainian and laugh at the genetic mumbo jumbo that gave us NOTHING in 100+ years
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the guy in cockshotts new video mentions a post or paper he wrote detailing this plan he has for a parallel socialist society. Anyone been able to find it?

He makes some interesting suggestions with keeping labor inside the community and not paying taxes. Could go far even within an american audience.
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Is communism autistic?

Think about it; We need to categorize nearly everything.
Plan everything ahead and cross every I and dot every T.
So yeah is communism autistic? Or are communists just generally more autistic than others?
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I have a question for all the anti vaxx fags

If you're on the left and you support anti vaxx and all this other shit: My question is "why?" Why do you support it. Really what is the point? You realize that if you are going to argue it's "freedom" or whatever you are basically arguing, tacitly, that freedom is consumption and that if people could just get back to consooming then things would just be alright again. Like no matter what you think if you think lockdowns are bad it begs the question "why?" And if you think they are bad because they restrict people's freedom (especially under our wonderful capitalist mode of production) then you are basically arguing that the endless consumption of commodities is freedom and that people should just return to that. You're basically no better than libertarians, kek.
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Paul gives a disastrously bad answer to a very fundamental question about petty exchanges of second-hand goods under socialism.

The presenter brings up a very strong example of wanting to sell an old guitar, and paul sidesteps the problem by appealing to the idea of a barter and gift economy. This is exactly the kind of thing that would have the average person feel like communism has taken away their freedom. It gets too close to the capitalist plan "You will own nothing and be happy"

This bothers me because this shouldn't even be a problem in the first place. Paul has already run into this problem with trade workers and come up with a brilliant solution. Allowing the self-employed to have a state bank account. It's only a matter of universalizing this so everyone could make transactions with each other. Would this open up a route for accumulation? Well, people could rip themselves off through unequal exchange, but the same would happen without a currency as well. Better lubricating these kind of petty transactions rather than trying to sideline them would result in a healthier and more productive economy.

One flawed counter-argument is that currency would enable "illegal" transactions like prostitution or gambling. The problem with this argument is that currency is not the problem in such a scenario. Its cutting your nose off to spite your face. Crime should be dealt with at the level of law enforcement, making it tougher by making all personal transactions tougher is only going to push people further into a black market. Leave it to the future city council to deal with crime, whether by education and rehabilitation, or letting the people's militia beat it out of them with sticks.

As for the fear of accumulation. There's a man that started with a paperclip, and only through barter he ended up owning a home
Exactly as with illegal activity, this is something that has to be accounted for at the level of the law, and not simply suppressed or dismissed as an aberration of an otherwise perfect system. Making it harder isn't a solution.

Let's take a real world example. A black man whose name I can't remember had started a business outside a convenience store in new york. He would sell 'loosies', single cigarettes, for about 50 cents each, which was enough to cover the cost of the entire pack and make a little profit for his work. This is what some marxists call profit on alienation as opposed to exploitation. In capitalism the NYPD showed up and killed him by suffocating him during the arrest. You would hope that under communism, the city council would instead incorporate such a business venture into the plan and officially sanction the new social need. Again, unless they had reason to deem it illegal. Since this is a decision being made by the majority, it shouldn't be hard to enforce.
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State of the Union Watch Party

Hello everyone I'm organizing a State of the Union Watch Party tonight.

It begins at 9pm ET / 2am UTC.

I have attached a Bingo Card and Drinking Game Rules.

Come join the fun.

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War is Peace

Go on, now die for profits, for that is peace.
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Ukraina i Krym, Belarus' i Moldova
Eto moja strana!
Sakhalin i Kamchatka, Ural'skie gory
Eto moja strana!
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Kenya and turkey have taken in alot of refugees and stayed stable

What made their immigration policies so effective when importing millions of syrian, afghan, and somali refugees compared to westerners?
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SquareEnix promises to add NFTs to games in near future.

I'm really enjoying all of the videogame journalists pissing and shidding themselves over the gold rush game publishers are in over NFTs.

Practically every major publisher is promising to integrate NFTs into games and some like Sega, are already selling them now.

One legitimate criticism of NFTs are their environmental impact. But every media talking head that brings this up never spoke out against the Iraq War that irradiated entire cities with depleted uranium munitions, or the Pentagon, who is the number single emitter of greenhouse gases.

So I'm with the crypto bros on this one say this is sour grapes on people that missed out on the ground floor of this get-rich-quick scheme.

I also see this as anger from the burger settler class who are now really getting priced out of the middle class lifestyle in earnest to the point where their steady diet of new videogames may soon be out of their reach. As someone who grew up poor and was always priced out of these type of consumerist leisure goods I relish their anguish.

Another example of this is when Settlers (read white people) shidded themselves over Disney's new $2000 a night Stars Wars themed hotel. As they rightfully saw this as a new trend in Disneyland Theme Parks where they will soon only cater to the 1%. I never got to go to Disneyland when I was young and was told by these same Settlers that I shouldn't be upset because I can live without it. Ironically, it's them who will now live without it while I can actually still afford to go.

And game journalists are particularly hypocritical because we've seen none scarce digital goods sold for 20+ years now, first with iTunes, and then with Amazon with books, and later Steam with games. No one every questioned the environmental impact of these systems.

Overall I think NFTs will be a net good for the proletariat, it will provide a second hand market of digital goods that proles have already spent billions on, and put a lot of equity in their pocket.

I know there's been a lot of cringe shenanigans around NFTs, like crumby jpegs going for 100's of thousands of dollars. But that kind of foolishness will subside. If people are going to buy infinitely copy-able digital assets like their scarce physical goods, they might as well have a way to resell them.

What do you guys think?
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Do you know why the nazi lost?
Because of aestethic. It was a great point of advantage for them, they had very good aesthetic, and it made them succeed, but…
… but aesthetic is something that appeals to still human beings. Beauty is holy. Aesthetic made them not nazi enough and in the contradiction of being a dishuman force that still needed humanity, thus they lost. The essence of nazism was Auschwitz
and there was no aesthetic in Auschwitz, it wasn't anything nice to see, but outside of it they had cool uniforms and such. Now you can see the contemporary neo-nazism that is winning because they absolutely have no aesthetic whatsoever, on purpose. They are fucking ugly and disseminate the destruction of aesthetic everywhere they go. They put their mask on. They have killed humanity. The nazi project can continue.
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Imagine having the privilege to witness the greatest primitive accumulation of all history but missing it because you believed them and thought it was a virus.
Jfc my sides I can't stop laughing when I think of it this way.
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fucking caught them in the act. I had a suspicion this was going on but this is the first time I have hard proof. fuck them
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Modern "innovators" frustrate me

1 really important thing anyone that has ever been an engineer at hell even trade worker learns is that innovation takes time and multiple attempts, you cannot reasonably learn how to assemble components together to perform a specific function wether building an engine, generator, new machine, material whatever and expect that design to perform its given task effectively the first time it was created. What I see people like elon musk,Jeff bezos, ma huateng, jack ma, anyone that works as a leader at NASA, etc all have in common is that they're collectively trying to push unfinished or poorly tested designs for their products and machinery into the global market to be sold or used by governments for their purposes and seem to exhibit 0 regard for the scientific method, and 0 willingness to improve on their garbage machines, no invention or design turns out perfect I can understand that's the case for anyone that's ever had to work as an engineer in whatever field but this laziness is noticeable enough to a degree that the unprofessionalism is apparent when you start seeing spaceX rockets flat out fucking explode while landing, or amazon delivery drones running out of energy while they're performing their service, or chinese made phones wether made locally or by westerners outsourcing their supply chains breaking within a few weeks from minor collisions. It's really embarrassing and wastes a fuck ton of time and resources along with contributing tremendous amounts of damage as models need to be mass produced for testing maintenance and assembling before a finished design can be released, a wealth that contributes to global e waste and excessive(and really inefficient usage) mining of rare earth metals along with oil drilling. Oh well sorry for this rant if it's off topic to you mods…
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Prolekult Video Watch Party

Hello Anons,

Let's get together and watch a nice Prolekult release today and also we can watch other stuff afterwards if you like until y'all get bored.

IIt's been a while since we had a nice big get together so let's have some fun.

We will begin the video at 2:30am GMT, 9:30pm EST, 6:30pm PST.

Feel free to come in early and watch things until video time and afterwards.

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Covid Accelerationsim

Should we intentionally spread COVID and ignore public health guidelines to increase the collapse of capitalism. After all increasing spread would cause more lockdowns which would harm porky, making sure their is a lot of COVID cases would require the continuation of the eviction moratorium which is harming landlords.
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What do you think of freemasons?

They are filled with conspiracy theories all over the net.

Interesting thing is how often they've been banned. China banned them, Franco spain banned them, Iran banned them, Nazis banned them, USSR banned them, papal banned them, Cuba banned them, hungary banned them. Goes on and on

What do you make of them?

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Fascists discussing politics

is so cringe. I can't understand how anyone takes them seriously. I went to a fascist political discussion subreddit called /r/discuss_government and it had some of the dumbest fucking posts i've ever seen being taken seriously. Browsing places like /r/monarchism and other right wing subreddits makes me think its almost trolling. I dunno.
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Why is eugenics bad? I have a relatively minor genetic disease I inherited from my father and it sucks. I saw my dad suffering it as i grew up, getting dizzy and having to lie down. I didn't have it at first but now that im older i ended up getting the same shit, i feel dizzy all the time and tired as fuck.

Yes I know eugenics has a bad rep due to nazism and scientific racism. And there's arguably capitalist eugenics as well, preserving the life and health of the rich at the expense of the working class. But if there was a rational social order, eugenics based on actual science and genetics rather than race or class, why would it be bad?

Why would a person who has a chance to pass on genetic disorders, or a serious transmissible disease (eg. HIV) do that? You're condemning an innocent child to a life of suffering.

Is it really wrong to say its a bad idea for people not to pass this on? I only have a minor condition I can only imagine what its like for people with severe conditions
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Why do incels gravitate towards fascism instead of communism? Wouldn't they rather live in a society where they are treated equally/equitably rather than one where they would be treated as genetic waste?
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These books will change your life. Read them.

<1. Capital, Vol. I | Karl Marx

The classpill. Discover the extent to how the bourgeosie exploit you. NOTE: I wouldn't recommend reading it in its entirety as Marx was a shit writer and Capital is completely disorganized. Perhaps pick up the David Harvey companion book and jump around with Capital as if it was a textbook. Also, don't bother with Vols. II and III, those are just for the autists.

<2. The Unique and Its Property | Marx Stirner

The egopill. Eliminate your spooks, be your Unique. Or, in layman's terms, be gay and do crime.

<3. The Society of the Spectacle | Guy Debord

The situationistpill. The book examines the “Spectacle,” Debord’s term for the everyday manifestation of capitalist-driven phenomena; advertising, television, film, and celebrity. Everything about capitalist society starts to make much more sense after reading this.

<4. Capitalist Realism | Mark Fischer

The doomerpill. Or, as I like to call it, the realistpill. From wikipedia because I got lazy:

"According to Fisher, capitalist realism has so captured public thought that the idea of anti-capitalism no longer acts as the antithesis to capitalism. Instead, it is deployed as a means for reinforcing capitalism. This is done through media which aims to provide a safe means of consuming anti-capitalist ideas without actually challenging the system. The lack of coherent alternatives, as presented through the lens of capitalist realism, leads many anti-capitalist movements to cease targeting the end of capitalism, but instead to mitigate its worst effects, often through individual consumption-based activities such as Product Red.[3]"

<5. Desert | Anonymous

The postciv pill. Realize that the only way we will ever be "free" is after ecological collapse and Mad Maxxing away from the state. It'll be fun!

Congratulations, you are now a depressed post-left anarchist making shitposts on /leftypol/ and conteplating an heroing. Maybe don't read and just be a normie…maybe you'll be happier that way.
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need to know the truth about Islam:

Like many others, I was very impressed by the Islamic victory of the Taliban retaking Afghanistan from Ameri-zionist mutts. It made me consider studying Islam, and converting if it seemed to be speaking the truth more than ameri-zionist do. But anons on /leftypol/ have shown me evidence that there might be atrocities in Islam, like pedophilia is CONDONED by scriptures. How can a religion that advocates pedophilia be the true word of God?

I need help to figure this out before pledging my immortal soul to a possible demon-inspired movement – is Islam God's truth or a sick lie?
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Far-Right Fragility and I Need Your Help!

I don't know how to say but fuck, fascists are too fragile about everything. Because of that, i'm in fucking danger
You know that at twitter, if you had post your pictures at there and if you are political; there is %100 chance that someone will post them as about you. It's something that fascists always do, they take pictures about leftist and share them.
Now, there is turkish-fascist girl. She is Turkicist, Islamist and so on; everything that sewer basically. She had captioned an vegan-food photo and said there avarage dinner at Dıyarbakır Prison 41 years ago. Referencing to the neo-fascist coup at 1980, where many of leftists, dissidents and some apoltical Kurds send to the prisons and they had tortured hard. Including rape and forcing them to eat their shit, which she had make fun of. Ofc, it created an problem at Turkish political-twitter.
Other thing is, while she is fascist, her photos were degenerate for far-right standarts. She had tumblrite red-hair and modern artistic-photos and while she is islamist, her apparaence is forbidden. And i posted them at bottom of tweets about her. I didn't attack her, or said oh, she is hot or anything like that. I just had showed the irony of her, she is degenerate but a fascist?? Then she triggered and attacked to me as How dare you share mine photos!! i will sue you.
WTF?! Other irony is, her acoount is also full of hate-crime. She is attacking everyone that not white-skinned turkish muslim hetero conservative ultranationalist male, yeah she is also an self-hating woman.

Now, as i learned.
1-)Avarage crime-sue needs 3-6 months for being had open.
2-)Twitter only gives personal-information about users only by request of courts
3-) After an acoount is deactivated, that account is being deleted after one month
4-)Twitter can't reach the personal-information about deleted acoounts. (I deactivated my account yesterday)
(I was also anonymous. I didn't post anything about myself)

Now, can i learn. Am i safe? Can twitter give personal-information without request of court.? Can court want personal-information this month ?

Now, other question is why reactionaires are too fragile?? At the same day, an (trans)woman that i'm mutual just said that She doesn't like nationalism and doesn't want to having proud-pride for things can't be chosen. It created an storm at nationalist-twitter. They all had captioned and sweared to her so hard. She said that they attacked to her at DM's since the morning. She had deactivated her acoount three/four times and she is gone now. She was too angry and as i understood; traumatised. I had look to nationalists and those bastards were too furious that someone said i don't like nationalism.
Also our leftist/socdem Istanbul governance made a show for freedom of Izmır and they had do valse at there. It was one of things at there… But do you know what had happen?? It made ıslamists too furious as fuck. They coped for like a month furiously and attacked to seculars for doing valse. Even some of them physically attacked…
They are too fucking fragile. Why??
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How do people confuse this man's ideas as being anti communist or some how that communists are some slave moralists at all like Christians or some shit? It doesn't make sense. Slave morality is driven by the false belief that one is free from the vengeful nature of the ruling class (in his class Christianity) and that they are above it and the actions of their rulers.

Communism doesn't trick anyone who follows Marxist ideology into believing they should "turn the other cheek" ok the contrary it tells people to pick up the gun in their own self interest and become the masters of their own destiny.

So how did the wires get crossed in the first place? Are lolberts who think commies are slave moralists just brainwashed? Are they the real slave moralists after all? I mean think of their ideology. It's all predicated on the fact that they maybe might one day get the boot.

Mfw lolberts are the concept of slave morality, lol.
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Socialism with bullshitter characteristics

I've just finished watching the Caleb & Haz discourse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uUuB6Slqk about "muh third worldists and US socialist patriotism" (which was basically a covert response to the recent Caleb vs. Unruhe drama on Twitter), and came to a revelation.

Caleb emphasizes (generally, but in this exchange as well) how just like China had its "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" so will the USA in the foreseeable future have its "Socialism with Amurrican Characteristics [SWAC]." So it made me wonder… what would SWAC look like? And then I had a revelation. It would be how like their current advocates are, meaning Caleb and Haz: bullshitters making shit work by bullshitting.

If you aren't familiar with this take I'll give you a crash course:
>Caleb Maupin
>well read on communist history
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and philosophy
>tries to start an IRL movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult


>well read on non-Marxist philosophy
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and world history
>tries to start an online movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult – but on fbi.gov/Reddit/Twitter/Twitch

And the realization dawned on me. These two people are legit representatives of American culture as such, they are the products of it, since no one can escape his concrete environmental upbringing and such. So when these two speak about the future SWAC they already hint at us what it will be like: pure bullshit, trumped up with ego and drive, or, in other words: 70% bravado, 20% improvisation, 10% saving face.

Think about it. Caleb's whole focus on SWAC emphasizes two characteristics:
>individualism (freeze peach, rights, humanism, etc.)
all of which are antithetical to communism, which is to say a form collectivism, and the points of Marx & Engels
>and market socialism
even if as meant to be as a transitional period, although he says that communism is achievable "a thousand years in the future"

Meanwhile, Haz:
>We Already Live in Socialism (TM)
>incel platform that does socialist content
>bitcoin is communist praxis

So to sum up: these two are bullshitters, without a doubt. (I could go on with the examples, trust me…) But is this any different from the general US culture at hand? I doubt it. US "culture" is exactly this: loudmouth, "pragmatist," under-read, self-confident (etc.) fools saying whatever and believing it 100%.

So whatever SWAC will be, it will have this main defining feature: bullshitting.
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Socialist state security

How should public security organizations like armies, surveillance teams, police etc be structured within your typical socialist state to ensure NATO can’t force its imperialist influence nor abolish a socialist government by force in any instance.
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We really gotta keep he-she’s from positions of power. Transgender drama ruined CHOP/CHAZ as well.
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Slave Morality in the American Leftist

Having been raised in America, the American Leftist is influenced by Judeo-Christian morals. Most Judeo-Christian flavors of religion were historically an enslaved underclass, and as a coping mechanism developed a Slave Morality that values victimhood and suffering as holy. The American Leftist is influenced by this Slave Morality, and identifies with the lower classes, so exalts weakness and fragility as desirable and respectable traits. This is out of a subconscious desire to reject the perceived ruling-class values of might and discipline.

In practice, this creates a degenerate behavior of sabotaging any Leftist organization that approaches authority. In the mind of the Slave-Morality Leftist, a Leftist that approaches authority is similar to the ruling class, which is imagined to be a betrayal of Leftist morals. This ultimately results in purity spirals of attacking anyone who is achieving any degree of conventional authority, instead putting at the forefront those who are the most outraged, the most offended, the most fragile, and the least capable of asserting their will onto society at large.

We have seen this happen at Democratic Socialists of America party meetings, where the attendees endlessly raise personal grievances to grind all activity to a halt, narcissistically making themselves the center of attention. The leadership of the DSA hesitates to reject these people, because they fear alienating the downtrodden underclass. The most egregious are those that are offended on another’s behalf, as they use others as pawns in their attention-seeking.

Formalized leftist organizations, like the DSA party, are not the only victims of the Slave-Morality Leftist. In less formal groups that have no explicit command structure, the Slave-Morality Leftist demands hyperfixation on the most loudly offended, and the most aggressively complainant. Meetings and discussions seize as people compete to be the most victimized, demanding hyperfixation on the endless tiny details of grievance upon grievance. Whether this is from a sincere desire to make the most harmed the most heard, or a manipulation tactic by attention-seeking narcissists, the result is the same: The complete halt of operations and inevitable death of the organization.

As should be apparent, a movement or organization that rewards incapability and suppresses the direct ability to assert one’s will, cannot influence society to a meaningful and lasting degree. The American Left must reject the exaltation of weakness, and instead praise and reward elements of power and authority that are leveraged to enact Leftist change in society. Should the American Left continue its rejection of capability, there is no possibility for development beyond Capitalism in the United States.
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what to do

Just a dumb thread idea I had. I was trying to imagine a teenager asking me, "so I think I'm a lefty, now what?"

0. Find local lefties. Be a good friend for your comrades.
1. Join a union. Become active in it! Pushing for a fairer workplace is honestly a more meaningful fight than trying to change local laws. It'll also help develop the leftist position in your neighborhood.
2. Exercise often and learn to cook. The amount of $$ that NPCs waste on eating crap food is really pretty mindboggling. You can watch a little less TV or do a little less shitposting online to find the time to cook yourself a good, wholesome meal now and then. Invest in a weight set or punching bag; at least do some body-weight exercises.
3. Put up wheatpastes! At best, you may be able to make new friends and spark some kind of discussion. At the least, you may be able to trigger some wrongthink NPCs into flipping out. Good activity to do with friends, and is decent enough exercise.
4. Meditate, research, absorb theory. Learn to articulate what you see as being problems in our society and how to resolve them. Discipline your mind and learn to regulate your feelings.
5. Find ways to apply your skills to the cause, whether it's writing, educating, sharing resources, pushing messages, countering narratives, etc. If your town is absolutely dry, you can resort to online projects, but try to remember that online ultimately doesn't matter or challenge any meaningful threats to the status quo.
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Gaddafi Thread

What did he really get wrong? This seems like a pretty reasonable way of organizing things. Perhaps some similarities to the Rojava organization style.
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Anarchists, Lifestylists, and Perfectionists.

The greatest problems halting the left from progress in this moment are anarchists, lifestylists, and perfectionists. Anarchists because they are anathema to achieving the power necessary to assert our will; Lifestylists because of their cliquey self-destructive purity spirals and unhalting destructive criticism of other leftists; Perfectionists because they oppose and undermine any kind of incremental progress or minor achievements. Anarchists generally manifest the other two, while the other two are present independently among all subtypes of Leftist.
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The work, the first volume of which I now submit to the public, forms the continuation of my Zur Kritik der Politischen Oekonomie (A Contribution to the Criticism of Political Economy) published in 1859. The long pause between the first part and the continuation is due to an illness of many years’ duration that again and again interrupted my work.

The substance of that earlier work is summarised in the first three chapters of this volume. This is done not merely for the sake of connexion and completeness. The presentation of the subject matter is improved. As far as circumstances in any way permit, many points only hinted at in the earlier book are here worked out more fully, whilst, conversely, points worked out fully there are only touched upon in this volume. The sections on the history of the theories of value and of money are now, of course, left out altogether. The reader of the earlier work will find, however, in the notes to the first chapter additional sources of reference relative to the history of those theories.

Every beginning is difficult, holds in all sciences. To understand the first chapter, especially the section that contains the analysis of commodities, will, therefore, present the greatest difficulty. That which concerns more especially the analysis of the substance of value and the magnitude of value, I have, as much as it was possible, popularised. The value-form, whose fully developed shape is the money-form, is very elementary and simple. Nevertheless, the human mind has for more than 2,000 years sought in vain to get to the bottom of it all, whilst on the other hand, to the successful analysis of much more composite and complex forms, there has been at least an approximation. Why? Because the body, as an organic whole, is more easy of study than are the cells of that body. In the analysis of economic forms, moreover, neither microscopes nor chemical reagents are of use. The force of abstraction must replace both. But in bourgeois society, the commodity-form of the product of labour — or value-form of the commodity — is the economic cell-form. To the superficial observer, the analysis of these forms seems to turn upon minutiae. It does in fact deal with minutiae, but they are of the same order as those dealt with in microscopic anatomy.

With the exception of the section on value-form, therefore, this volume cannot stand accused on the score of difficulty. I presuppose, of course, a reader who is willing to learn something new and therefore to think for himself.

The physicist either observes physical phenomena where they occur in their most typical form and most free from disturbing influence, or, wherever possible, he makes experiments under conditions that assure the occurrence of the phenomenon in its normality. In this work I have to examine the capitalist mode of production, and the conditions of production and exchange corresponding to that mode. Up to the present time, their classic ground is England. That is the reason why England is used as the chief illustration in the development of my theoretical ideas. If, however, the German reader shrugs his shoulders at the condition of the English industrial and agricultural labourers, or in optimist fashion comforts himself with the thought that in Germany things are not nearly so bad; I must plainly tell him, “De te fabula narratur!” [It is of you that the story is told. – Horace]

Intrinsically, it is not a question of the higher or lower degree of development of the social antagonisms that result from the natural laws of capitalist production. It is a question of these laws themselves, of these tendencies working with iron necessity towards inevitable results. The country that is more developed industrially only shows, to the less developed, the image of its own future.

But apart from this. Where capitalist production is fully naturalised among the Germans (for instance, in the factories proper) the condition of things is much worse than in England, because the counterpoise of the Factory Acts is wanting. In all other spheres, we, like all the rest of Continental Western Europe, suffer not only from the development of capitalist production, but also from the incompleteness of that development. Alongside the modern evils, a whole series of inherited evils oppress us, arising from the passive survival of antiquated modes of production, with their inevitable train of social and political anachronisms. We suffer not only from the living, but from the dead. Le mort saisit le vif! [The dead holds the living in his grasp. – formula of French common law]

The social statistics of Germany and the rest of Continental Western Europe are, in comparison with those of England, wretchedly compiled. But they raise the veil just enough to let us catch a glimpse of the Medusa head behind it. We should be appalled at the state of things at home, if, as in England, our governments and parliaments appointed periodically commissions of inquiry into economic conditions; if these commissions were armed with the same plenary powers to get at the truth; if it was possible to find for this purpose men as competent, as free from partisanship and respect of persons as are the English factory-inspectors, her medical reporters on public health, her commissioners of inquiry into the exploitation of women and children, into housing and food. Perseus wore a magic cap down over his eyes and ears as a make-believe that there are no monsters.

Let us not deceive ourselves on this. As in the 18th century, the American war of independence sounded the tocsin for the European middle class, so that in the 19th century, the American Civil War sounded it for the European working class. In England the process of social disintegration is palpable. When it has reached a certain point, it must react on the Continent. There it will take a form more brutal or more humane, according to the degree of development of the working class itself. Apart from higher motives, therefore, their own most important interests dictate to the classes that are for the nonce the ruling ones, the removal of all legally removable hindrances to the free development of the working class. For this reason, as well as others, I have given so large a space in this volume to the history, the details, and the results of English factory legislation. One nation can and should learn from others. And even when a society has got upon the right track for the discovery of the natural laws of its movement — and it is the ultimate aim of this work, to lay bare the economic law of motion of modern society — it can neither clear by bold leaps, nor remove by legal enactments, the obstacles offered by the successive phases of its normal development. But it can shorten and lessen the birth-pangs.

To prevent possible misunderstanding, a word. I paint the capitalist and the landlord in no sense couleur de rose [i.e., seen through rose-tinted glasses]. But here individuals are dealt with only in so far as they are the personifications of economic categories, embodiments of particular class-relations and class-interests. My standpoint, from which the evolution of the economic formation of society is viewed as a process of natural history, can less than any other make the individual responsible for relations whose creature he socially remains, however much he may subjectively raise himself above them.

In the domain of Political Economy, free scientific inquiry meets not merely the same enemies as in all other domains. The peculiar nature of the materials it deals with, summons as foes into the field of battle the most violent, mean and malignant passions of the human breast, the Furies of private interest. The English Established Church, e.g., will more readily pardon an attack on 38 of its 39 articles than on 1/39 of its income. Now-a-days atheism is culpa levis [a relatively slight sin, c.f. mortal sin], as compared with criticism of existing property relations. Nevertheless, there is an unmistakable advance. I refer, e.g., to the Blue book published within the last few weeks: “Correspondence with Her Majesty’s Missions Abroad, regarding Industrial Questions and Trades’ Unions.” The representatives of the English Crown in foreign countries there declare in so many words that in Germany, in France, to be brief, in all the civilised states of the European Continent, radical change in the existing relations between capital and labour is as evident and inevitable as in England. At the same time, on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean, Mr. Wade, vice-president of the United States, declared in public meetings that, after the abolition of slavery, a radical change of the relations of capital and of property in land is next upon the order of the day. These are signs of the times, not to be hidden by purple mantles or black cassocks. They do not signify that tomorrow a miracle will happen. They show that, within the ruling classes themselves, a foreboding is dawning, that the present society is no solid crystal, but an organism capable of change, and is constantly changing.

The second volume of this book will treat of the process of the circulation of capital (Book II.), and of the varied forms assumed by capital in the course of its development (Book III.), the third and last volume (Book IV.), the history of the theory.

Every opinion based on scientific criticism I welcome. As to prejudices of so-called public opinion, to which I have never made concessions, now as aforetime the maxim of the great Florentine is mine:

“Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti.”
[Follow your own course, and let people talk – paraphrased from Dante]

Karl Marx
July 25, 1867
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There's an actual proven certified communist remedy to """"covid""". It's called Artemisia Annua.
If you hide it and defend anything like the darpa death sentence injection, muzzling people, destroying society, terminating patients with ventilators and so on and so on you are an anticommunist and a nazi piece of shit and you deserve to die and will die painfully when we will catch you. But it will actually be the best for you, since under your master you wil suffer even more.
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I fucking hate this dude, man. I hate his constructed "ancient asian uncle" aura.
I hate the vietnamese communists. See how they jumped ship. They are buddy-buddy with the Americans now. They are a sweatshopland now. How is that possible? If the war was so brutal as they told us. Sure, betrayal is a thing, but it's not possible, not this soon. The people that fought in that war are alive, the people that died in that war are alive, that war is alive, it just happened. Yet they don't hate the Americans, they love them. And I came to the conclusion that my perspective was wrong. For the Viet Cong the Americans were never an enemy, they were adversaries in a war of conquest they won, an obstacle. So why not be friends now? And why were you even here anyway? In fact, they never saw themselves as a part of a global force countering colonialism; that was good PR. They must have been really confused by the Chinese, the Koreans, the Soviets and all the people in the world supporting them and rooting for them, they probably made fun of them. Communism was a vessel for national chauvinism, both materially and spiritually. They are fascist, Viet Nam is literally the Strasserite strawman radlibs poke at, and, quite ironically, the Strasserites are always happy to use Ho as a legitimizing authority.
One can even excuse such a backward subjectivity if it brings good results in the objective reality, but you can see now that subjectivity is the objective reality.
The gang of Hanoi sacrificed millions of their people for their petit-grandeure. They brag about it. And they are friends with the Americans. They probably respect them, their boldness. Predators compliment predators. And the real reson why they don't hate them is that they have no reason to do so. I mean, they can't take their boats and go conquer Florida, there's no point then in hating Americans, they are not Khmers.
I read that the Vietnamese accuse Pol Pot of the killing of 500,000 Cham (one must always forget every sense of proportion when dealing with Pol Pot.) The sinister aspect is that if the Vietnamese accuse Pol Pot of haveing killed 500,000 Cham, they themselves probably did it. The Vietnamese killed half a million of Cham; just finishing the job.
But it wasn't a betrayal. It was supposed to go this way. I learned recently that Stalin didn't like Ho (did the man ever missed once?) And it makes sense to me: he was never a communist, but a petty bourg nationalist, he pretty much admits this, moved by national resentment. There were many of this kind of people lurking around the Third Internationale in its first years - most of them shot afterwhile - dishonest opportunist aspiring warlords parasiting the body of the proletarian revolution.
Sure, but wouldn't the most honest, principled, advanced communists and anti-colonialists be the first to die in a situation like that?
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Doug Lain: /ourguy/

how can doug lain be so based? Pisses off grifters and anarkiddies by just speaking straight up facts. It's hilarious how he got cancelled for defending Dave chapelle against the troons.

Considering that Batko is compromised (for ~2.5 years now) we have a vacuum in the "face of leftypol" department. This guy is our best candidate.
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January 6th Anniversary

Rewatching today's speeches from Kamala and Biden.

Then replays of what happened last year on January 6th.

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Grey zone article exposes government interference in breadtube


Has any one else read this? They are drumming up a lot of hysteria about it over on Twitter but I don't really know what to think. The actual source itself doesn't appear to prove anything. Maybe I am misinterpreting the data can some one help me figure this out? What does leftychan thing?
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Remember the 20th Century?

I know I always tell a tall tale about this but if you don't do what I want then we're all going to concentration camps to get dinkledomped. Adolf Doofler is going to come back and karaka your head on a platter. Is that what you want? You WILL remember the 20th century, anon. I'm very serious about this.
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Cytube End of Year Watch Party

Hello Comrades,

Another year down. I'm hosting a watch party where I gathered some videos to watch and willingly to take suggestions for the night to add more videos. I plan staying up as late as possible and hanging out with you all until I can't stay awake.

I will be starting it up 7pm CST.

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Alt-right winger goes on shooting spree in Denver

Maybe you all should have a cylical news thread. Anyway I just wanted to draw attention to this because the right always acts like violence from them are one off flukes.
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Communism and Nationalism

To begin with, let's define the concepts.
1. Strasserism (or Strasser's ideological position), judging by the program document "14 theses of the German Revolution", was an attempt by Strasser to combine nationalism, anti-Semitism, moderate social democracy and geopolitics. This attempt was half-hearted, Strasserism was in principle adjacent to Hitler's Nazism and was suppressed by Nazism, which simply rejected the social-democratic ideas of Strasserism as a screen. Strasserism was a form of moderate centrist nationalism, inconsistent and tending to right-wing ideas (German geopolitics of "living space", racism, anti-Semitism)

2. National Bolshevism (Ustryalov) is a "post-revolutionary" ideological trend among the Russian emigration, which recognized the socialist principle, but at the same time defended the idea of Russian national statehood and denied universal communism as a utopia. It is distinguished from Strasserism by great consistency and restraint. Within the framework of National Bolshevism as a synthesis of the ideas of Russian historical statism and the ideas of Marxism, there is less eclecticism. National Bolshevism itself is a mirror of Soviet state-building (Ustryalov recognized both industrialization, collectivization and the unity of the party). Initially, National Bolshevism advocated combining the ideas of NEP and cooperation with the ideas of a strong state. Then there was a turn to the recognition of the Stalinist USSR.

3. Left-wing nationalism is a set of ideological-theoretical and practical-political phenomena, which are usually united by the following things:
1) the presence of a left (anarcho-communist, populist, Marxist) ideology,
2) recognition of the right of peoples to self-determination and denial of capitalist imperialism,
3) statism or the idea of a strong, based on the original development of the nation and national culture. In this sense, left-wing nationalism can be attributed to Smenovehovism, National Bolshevism (Limonov), Gandhism (the teachings of Gandhi in India), Titoism (the teachings of Tito, who combined the ideas of Trotsky and the ideas of left-wing nationalism), early Maoism and, of course, Juche (the official ideology of the DPRK).

Strasserism is not left-wing nationalism, because it included the ideas of "living space","war as fate", anti-semitism and "purity of the nation" - purely right-wing ideas and was therefore not viable (since the combination of left and extreme right ideas led to eclecticism).

4) There are often people who call themselves a Hoxhaist or a Stalinist. This is not very correct. To begin with, neither Stalin nor Hoxha created such ideologies and did not call themselves that. Both communist leaders were Marxist-Leninists. Even during the Khrushchev period, criticism of Stalin dispensed with the use of the term "Stalinism". On the pages of the Soviet press, this term (used by Western Sovietologists) appeared and was practically legalized only at the very end of the 80s, at the final stage of perestroika. However, Marxism-Leninism itself can be considered Stalinism since it was created by Stalin.

In principle, in the process of defining concepts, I was able to point out the differences in terms. In other words, left-wing nationalism is a common name for a number of trends that organically combine left-wing ideology and nationalism, national Bolshevism is one of the varieties of left-wing nationalism. Strasserism can be considered a democratic nationalism, with strong ideas of pan-Germanism and anti-Semitism. Stalinism(Hoxhaism) this is true Marxism-Leninism, and after Stalin's death it is already Revisionism.

+++My personal opinion.+++

Remember the years 1939-1945, in all European countries only the Communists could form a serious resistance, since they were always in the underground, they were driven first by the national governments of France, Denmark, Belgium, Poland, Luxembourg, and then the Nazis came and began to drive everyone, but only the communists had an opyat of underground work, they both had turnouts, passwords and were accountable to the International, not even Moscow, and continued all this. A communist is not a patriot of one country, but a patriot of the entire Planet Earth. You need to remember, know and understand this.

Capitalist governments only care about the life of the elite and a little about the life of the middle class, they do not want to care about the poor working people. And in the USSR, the coat of arms had the words: "Workers of the world, unite!", that is, all proletarians of all countries and peoples were together for a single cause. By the way, Comrade Lenin and Comrade Stalin were not just general secretaries, they were leaders of the world proletariat.

Russian Tsar or European King, roughly speaking, is a small man compared to the leader of the world proletariat, since the leader controls the whole Earth, the workers of all states, and the tsar or king only his subjects, Russians or Germans or Frenchmen. You understand what a big difference.

Therefore, the responsibility lay on the shoulders of Lenin and Stalin many times more than on the shoulders of any tsar, emperor or president. Do not confuse a member with a carrot. Communists are majestic, and monarchists are petty. This is a fact that few people realize and even more so few people replicate because a true communist does not care about it, and it becomes not quite convenient for monarchists to argue like this. Therefore, it is clearly superfluous to mix nationalism and communism.
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Cytube Watch Xmas Eve

Hello everyone,

I'm gonna go watch the Trump interview involving Candace Owens at :45 after.

If you wanna come watch. Come here:


We also may watch a few other things and then yeah.

Hope to see y'all there.
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What does the future for leftypol and the left in general look like?

What is out future as a community? Will we die out with a whimper and bang or will we see a surge in popularity among the community as a whole?

What about the left in general? What does the future look like for us? Are we fucked?
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Behold the Chinese equivalent of jannies

The Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau, commonly shortened to Chengguan (Chinese: 城管; pinyin: Chéngguǎn), is a local government agency that has been established in every city in Mainland China.[1]

The agency is usually part of a city or municipality's Urban Management Bureau (Chinese: 城市管理局; pinyin: Chéngshì Guǎnlǐ Jú).[2] The agency is in charge with enforcement of urban management of the city. This includes local bylaws, city appearance bylaws, environment, sanitation, work safety, pollution control, health, and can involve enforcement in planning, greening, industry and commerce, environment protection, municipal affairs and water in large cities.[2]

The agents of the bureau are civil servants that do not have the power of the police.

The bureau is sometimes translated in English as Urban Administrative Enforcement Bureau or Urban Management Enforcement Bureau.

The Urban Administrative and Law Enforcement Bureau was established in 2001/2002 for all major cities in mainland China to improve municipal governance as cities become more crowded and urban issues became more complex.[3]

The bureaus' officials are responsible for cracking down on unlicensed street vendors. According to the BBC, "Ever since the agency came into existence 10 years ago, there have been repeated criticism of them using excessive force. This para-police force, equipped with steel helmets and stab-proof vests, is often used by local officials as trouble shooters".[4]

In general the Chengguan serve as an official agency employed by cities across China "to tackle low-level crime." However, the agency is widely disliked by the Chinese due to their abuses of power.[4]


Chengguan vehicle in Beijing
Chengguan have been involved in several high-profile cases that highlighted public discontent towards a perceived abuse of power by Chengguan. One high-profile case involved Cui Yingjie, who killed a Chengguan in 2006 after a confrontation in Beijing. Public support for Cui Yingjie before and during the trial may have affected the leniency shown to Cui, who received a commuted death sentence.[citation needed]

Following an incident in Tianmen City, Hubei province in January 2008 in which the manager of a construction company, Wei Wenhua,[5] was beaten to death for filming the actions of the Chengguan in a local dispute over rubbish dumping, nationwide calls were made to abolish the unit. Thousands of messages were posted over the Internet and protests took place in Hubei province. According to sources,[which?] some Chengguan officials have connections to organized crime.

A 2012 report by Human Rights Watch documents Chengguan abuses, "including assaults on suspected administrative law violators, some of which lead to serious injury or death, illegal detention, and unlawful forceful confiscation of property."[6]

There were multiple cases in 2011 and 2012 throughout China where police officers were attacked by groups of chengguan agents when responding to incidents of chengguan's use of violence and abuse.[7]

In 2012, the Chengguan agency in Wuhan announced formation of an internal 'militia' or paramilitary-type division.

In 2013, a watermelon seller, Deng Zhengjia, was reported to have been beaten to death with his own scales by Chengguan. His body was protected by people on the street to prevent authorities from seizing it and to "preserve evidence." Violence ensued. Prominent microbloggers have called for the end to what has been termed a "thuggish" organization.[8]

In 2014, a man filming the Chengguan abusing a female street vendor was brutally beaten with a hammer until he was vomiting blood. He was pronounced dead on the way to the hospital. The five Chengguan officers were severely beaten, and four confirmed dead later,[9] with pictures posted on Sina Weibo.[10][11]

In popular culture
As a result of its notorious reputation, the Chengguan has become a popular target of jokes and internet memes by the Chinese public.

Time magazine reports that beatings by Chengguan officers have become such commonplace news that, "The word 'Chengguan' has even taken on an alternate meaning in Chinese. "Don't be too Chengguan" is an appeal not to bully or terrorize. In other words, "Chengguan" has literally become synonymous with "violence".[12]"The Chengguan is coming!", a phrase often shouted out by illegal street vendors to warn others to run away in case of a Chengguan inspection, has become a famous Chinese Internet punch line.

There are also satirical jokes of the Chengguan actually being China's secret strategic reserves, the "fifth branch of the PLA", because of their capability to cause "mass destruction". Punch lines such as "Give me 300 Chengguan, I will conquer…" and "China has pledged not to be the first to use Chengguan at any time or under any circumstances in order to keep world peace and stability" have gone viral among Chinese netizens in recent years.[13]
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Is it idealistic to think that knowledge of real history is critically important for staging a revolt? How can you expect people to succeed when they've been robbed of their history?
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What are our thoughts on the most advanced political ideology yet, /leftypol/? Shay wrote a book about american balkanization and the creation of a new nation in the southern united states, based on sun yat-sen's three principles of the people and mlm thought. Shay also proposes replacing the presidency with a council and the formation of a cooperative mercenary organization combined with unions, syndicates and parties to form a super-organization with dual-power to demand independence, all while ranking revolutionary action based on a 3-tier tier system to represent action in an everyday form vs more radical and revolutionary acts.
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Whats your thought on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?
Me personally? I cannot wait for the burger butthurt and riots. No matter the outcome, the amount of bloodshed this will cause will be good fodder for my boredom
Thoughts, leftychads?
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Jobs Thread

ITT: We help each other in our dystopian quest to sell our worthiness as a good candidate to be exploited in this hellscape society

Tips, Career Advice what not
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On hate

What do you anons think about the concept of "hate"? How do you conceptualize it? Is it in the form of racism, or what? Is it in the form of canards?

I would like to see your responses to a very hot subject over the past few years.
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Bordiga and Fascism-Democracy

Can some anon explain me what's the deal with bordiga and fascism? Why did he call Stalin an crypto-bourgeoisie while had call Hitler and Mussolini proletariat-revolutionaires?
What was his problem with democracy?
Is he the proof of horseshoe theory by going too much left to the point that siding with fascists?
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Amid pandemic, Washington escalates war threats against Russia
>Washington and its NATO allies are recklessly stoking military tensions with Russia to distract from their criminally irresponsible policies on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

It is very clear from the link to Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Atlantic Council article as to why he was a, the?, leading strategist for US imperialism.
In his own twisted way he employs a multi-sided vision of warfare, encompassing military, political, social and psychological tools in pursuing what was a virulent anti-communist agenda, no matter what the cost in deaths and human suffering. Brzezinski, for all his apparent world view saw communists everywhere. In Chile, Vietnam, Russia, …. His bigotry prevented him and fellow travellers from distinguishing between Stalinists, reformists, centrists and every variety of defender of capitalism from Communism, Trotskyism.
Afghans, Ukrainians, Russian, Turkish, Vietnamese, it matter little, his only criteria being the defeat of Communism and the enrichment of America.
NATO’s, that is US Imperialisms provocative present day ambitions employ equally sick, regressive acts.
But there are important differences between 2014 and the third decade of the 21 century, namely internationally the economic crisis is immeasurable more severe than just seven years ago. Barak Obama, followed by Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have intensified conflict with and within China and the Pacific region as a whole. Inter-imperialist rivalries pop up again and again in the EU and elsewhere.
The repercussions of the massive 2008 financial crash were still vigorously reverberating around the globe. And now the coronavirus pandemic, which has been allowed to sweep across whole continents causing millions of deaths, many more hardships and misery as well as havoc and mayhem in production and deliveryhas further weakened international capitalism. It has exacerbated not just nation state antagonisms but class conflict too.
In the name of defence of Ukraine’s and Turkey’s independence it, NATO, spells out the role of these pawns of NATO’s war games. These independent nation states have no say in their future other than to accept mass deaths on their soil in furtherance of imperialisms ambitions.
Only the independent intervention of the international proletariat can prevent the slide into war. Turn the imperialist war into a class war.
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I want to talk to the ni66er that made this picture. Because he's a fucking moron (and a cryptofash too.)
He thinks he's dunking on rightoids when he's only demonstrating is utter ignorance and stupidity. He thinks CAPITALISM is a ghostly entity, a demonic nothuman system, not a condition made of and by humans, and they are stupid in searching people to blame. Marx should come and rape him.
What's funny is that the figures depicted could easily really represent our current overlords.
In order: the Chinese Communist Party, overseer of the larger working force in the World, secret societies, think tanks and NGOs, central banks, zionists (tech, weaponry, surveillance,) and cherry on top what better than aliens for the CIA?
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latam block

Will Latin America be able to form it's own political and economic block ?
They are trying to build political organization and economic cooperation between regional countries that is independent of the US, via political initiative
Is this going to work ? I'm asking because in the past blocks of this type have formed around heavy industry, transportation and military pacts.
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(Islamic) Socialism in Indonesia

I know the other Islamic Communist thread is dead, but let's actually engage this topic halfway seriously. It seems like "communism" was pretty close to going through in Indonesia when Sukarno was in power… then the CIA pushed for Suharto, millions of people were genocided (socialists, environmentalists, atheists, progressives), "communism" was made illegal, etc etc.

> What did Indonesian socialists actually want?

> What does Indonesian socialism look like today?

Partai Solidaritas Indonesia is a fairly large, center-left movement. It seems to have a lot of appeal and the 🌹rose symbol marks them pretty clearly as being a democratic socialist movement, even though it's never explicitly stated.

Random links:
> Sukarno's version of the UN with DPRK and Palestine
> Indonesian and DPRK friendship
> CIA fascist pig kills military leaders, blames communists to stage hostile takeover
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population destruction in capitalism

Capitalism, drives half the population to poverty and despair, but subsequently finds that it is ultimately unable to reproduce the workers on whom it depends.

The USA, and now the UK are already showing declines in life expectancy. Deaths due to poisoning, suicide, liver disease. The afflictions of poverty and despair take an increasing toll

graph 1 figure 5a

A large part, the poisoning line in Figure 5, is caused by the deliberate promotion of opiate addiction. From the East India Company pushing Opium to the Chinese in the 1840s, the Bayer company selling over the counter Heroin as a ‘cure’ for morphine in 1895 to Purdue Pharmacy aggressively launching Oxycontin in 1995, companies have seen addicts as a secure source of income. The ‘legitimate’ drug firms open the doors to addiction, which is then further exploited by the black capitalism of the illegal drugs rings. The profits are then laundered via blue chip banks like HSBC in the City of London, a bank that was founded from the profits of the Opium trade to China.

graph2 figure 5b

graph 3 Russian birthrate post Soviet

Along with rising death rates you can see in the former USSR a collapse in the birth rate so that more people die than are born to replace them. As wage shares decline, it becomes impossible for families to survive on one income. The pressure to work more, the pressure to acquire qualifications for work, the shortage of affordable family houses, the lack of affordable childcare causes women to delay or abandon having children.

More and more people stay single and give up the hope of having a family. The effect was most dramatic where capitalism was suddenly imposed but the pattern of births falling below deaths spreads across the capitalist world. The effect has gone furthest in Japan where for 2017, 946,000 babies were born but 1.34 million people died, with the decline of the population reaching 394,000 in a single year. In 2018 it looks as if the shortfall in births to deaths will be more like half a million people. As Figure 6 shows this trend of a failure of capitalist societies to reproduce their populations is spreading.

A similar inability to reproduce the population has heralded the doom of past class societies. The Roman Empire, built on slavery, faced the same problem.

graph 4 figure 6

The early urban capitalism of the High Middle Ages in Europe was likewise a consumer of peoples. The disease ridden and insanitary cities within which nascent capitalist economies existed, could only maintain themselves by a constant influx from the countryside.

Once exploitation by the elites becomes insupportable, once a society can no longer maintain its population, it goes into crisis. The forms assumed by the crisis differ. Capitalism’s fall will not recapitulate that of Rome or the great European crisis of the 14th century. But we can see its economic effects already working themselves out.

The rate of return on capital is set by the relationship between the total property income ( economic surplus ) and the total capital stock. Corresponding to a given monetary flow of profit there is a population of millions of people whose output goes on the commodities purchased out of profits. Since money is a variable standard of value, we can express the profit rate in real terms as the ratio:

number of people working to produce the economic surplus
number of person years embodied in the capital stock

If the capital stock rises faster than the number of people producing the surplus then the rate of profit must fall. Therefore rapid accumulation of capital compared to the growth of the working population tends to depress the rate of profit. If the population stops growing or shrinks, then there is no longer any positive rate of profit compatible with capital accumulation. This process makes itself felt first in that country which traditionally had high investment rates and in which the population slowdown was most marked:

graph 5 japan profit rate
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I'm calling it

If you don't support the global masters' exterminationism you will be a larouchist. It's all so tiresome. I think they already started on .ogre
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I was thinking.

Let's say you were a rower in a big ship in the ancient times up until the 16th century.
That's pretty shitty, right?
Well, think about it: they are basically making you super fucking strong, they need to feed you well, you need to be not sick, they can't starve you, you have your rest, and the stronger you become the more valuable you are. If you go on strike during a battle, they die, and you have more chance of survival since you are the most valuable part of the ship, if you're lucky, if the galley gets captured you could even be freed. And the hell they are vaccinating you.
My conclusion is that we are fucked beyond any doubt. And also that's a good explanation why capitalists hate capitalism.
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imagine following this clown

me, a right-wing conspiracy nuts simpleton: the ruling class is ruthless, as already shown by the abundance of precedents in history, they are culling us and putting us inside a digital fence under total surveillance
you, a marxist scientific genius:

This really shows what imageboards are, because Cockshott exists only in leftypol. They are nothing but shilling places where fringes and "alternatives" get promoted by the factory of manufactured dissent, under the control of mercenary moderation and trolling.
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Cytube: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial

Hello everyone.

I'm semi back but I need some folks to run the Cytube during the trial. I have unfortunately have returned to work and now work for a state government agency. I can't be fucking off like I was previously was allowed to in a corporate environment. So I need some new care takers.

Bad news sort of related to this:

Bossignostic is gone. I haven't heard from him during our downtime.

I'll be putting up the trial today and I'll be giving some folks mod as a try out.

Cytube link: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash
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Take the Mexicanist Pill

Reject the double extremes of liquidationism and hamfisted Burgoid tailism, and become Mexican to achieve the true centrist position.


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Another UAW executive charged with stealing dues money, as union announces “re-vote” on defeated Deere contract
>Every additional indictment and conviction only confirms what workers already know, that the UAW is organized and run by an apparatus that benefits from workers’ exploitation, takes bribes from the companies and exists for the sole purpose of suppressing the class struggle.

The UAW has become the epitome of corruption and mismanagement in every respect. For this reason the buildup of independent rank and file factory and workplace committees has become a necessary act under these conditions rather then a mere proposition.
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The refugee crisis on the Polish-Belarusian border and the danger of war
>EU and NATO countries are mobilizing troops, whipping up far-right hysteria, and effectively threatening Belarus and Russia with war.

"The ruling class is responding with the tried and tested method of diverting social tensions outwards by fomenting nationalism, war propaganda and xenophobia. The brutal mistreatment of refugees at the border, followed by millions of people with shock and horror, serves to intimidate the population, accustom it to death, abolish basic democratic rights and stir up the fascist dregs of society".
Absolutely the ruling classes in Europe and elsewhere know full well that with the rise of all these contradictions back home it would make it extremely challenging for them to rule under the traditional bourgeois democratic means. For this reason they are resorting to more authoritarian tactics while at the same time using refugees as scapegoat for their own shortcomings. As far as they are concerned this is the only way that can help them to navigate this crisis without compromising their power and class privileges. In fact, these set of policies were tested during the run- up of second world war and we all know happened.
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>GET OFFLINE! Oh, not me. I got podcasting, twitch, and maybe a gaming channel
>JOIN A UNION! Oh, not me. I'm an "artisan".

There is no difference between the grifters of Matt and Vaush.
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Global Capitalism Economic Update November

It is time once again to learn how capitalism is collapsing around us Chinese capitalism is surpassing American capitalism before our very eyes:

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Who the fuck actually follows Maoism? That shit is a joke like a bad chinese translation of an instruction manual for a turkey deepfryer.
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##More than 100,000 people have had their eyes scanned for free cryptocurrency##
>Worldcoin reveals "orb" scanner, aims to distribute cryptocurrency to 1 billion people.
What is fueling all this investment in what's an obvious ponzi scheme.
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Happy October revolution to all anons across the world

Cheers~ Long live the revolutionary struggle against all tyrants and oppressors. Today is the day we celebrate the take over of Russia by the revolutionary vanguard and the death of the Tzar. Today we celebrate one of the most monumental events in all of history.
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/LeftyBritPol/ - Showdown at conference edition.

Reports are coming in from Labour list and momentum that there are preparations for a showdown at the 2021 labour conference. With Labour branches putting forward a motion to re-instate Jeremy Corbyn and transferring the ability of removal of MP's to labour members. This is the biggest internal matter Kieth Starmer has faced yet, loosing this vote at confrence threatens to majorly undermine his leadership and demostrate a left majority against his leadership within the party.

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Science summit warns of escalating pandemic disaster
>The two-day summit consisted of 22 different sessions on the pandemic, including on airborne transmission, inequities in global vaccine distribution, the effects of Long COVID and the development of new variants of SARS-CoV-2.

Great work by comrade Evan Blake, for a very clear report on the “Global Summit to End Pandemics”. The scientists involved have selflessly and conscientiously given of their time and knowledge to put forth the ways to end the current pandemic. But this is not enough. The financial elites are actually using the pandemic to increase their wealth, and to cull unwanted sections of the population. There can be no appeals made to them, human or scientific. This is a watershed moment in history. Evan is absolutely correct to state that the only section of society that truly has an interest and the ability to end the pandemic, is the world working class, educated in the science and organised under a scientific socialist program and leadership. That leadership is the International Committee of the Fourth International and its publication, the World Socialist Web site.
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has anyone here lived in a socialist state i.e. Cuba, China, DPRK, Laos, Vietnam, Venezuela? What was your experience?
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Do you think we'll see less scams under socialism?
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The significance of the Democratic Party debacle on November 2
>The Democratic Party has long abandoned policies to improve the social and economic position of working people, in favor of the politics of race and gender.

Nicely encapsulated. I am sending this to all of my friends who continue to support the Democratic party. They must be made to see that their image of the Democrats as a pro-workers' party is undeserved and that whatever gains the working class once achieved prior to the 1960s are virtually all gone.
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COVID-19 must not be the “new normal”
>The perspective set forth by McKinsey & Company, speaking on behalf of the corporate-financial oligarchy, is that the coronavirus pandemic should be allowed to become “endemic.”

This article is a blatant refutation against the ruling classes who are still calling for people to live and adapt with Covid-19 virus all under the banner that the cure must not be worse then the disease itself. Their commitment to safeguard at any cost corporate profits and wealth accumulation is the reason as to why we are seeing renewed outbreaks in US, Europe and Russia. These same Capitalist governments who have done a miserable job in containing the virus are now attending Glasgow CO26 for Climate Change. What a farce.
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Thoughts? If this isn't true it sure as hell feels like it is. One of my friends has been unemployed for 3 years and still can't find a job.
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What are your opinions on Inejiro Asanuma?

Inejirō Asanuma was one of the few prominent politicians in the 1950's who was advocating for total autonomy from America and the removal of all US military bases, as well as the formation of a pan-Asian bloc to defend against foreign imperialist meddling. Otoya was (unwittingly or otherwise) doing the bidding of the US state department by icing this politician who was threatening American hegemony.

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Global COVID-19 death toll surpasses 5 million: Government policies promote mass death
>Amid the ongoing wave of mass death, governments worldwide are scrapping all remaining measures to contain or slow the spread of COVID-19, with the grotesque mantra that society must “learn to live with the virus.”

Living and dying with the virus joins a long list of similar socially destructive policies pursued by our elites.

Like living with poverty, inequality, millionaires and billionaires, global warming, deteriorating working conditions, homelessness, world hunger, war … an incomplete list but already one that is too long to live with.

Everyone of these class hostile acts is measurable in the millions and billions of human beings that suffer and die as a result. We need to do something about it. Not as individuals but as a class, as the working class. It is our only cure and it deals with all our ills.
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Stop the witch-hunt against scientist Peter Daszak!
>The Washington Post hopes that scapegoating scientists for the COVID-19 pandemic will turn attention away from the US government’s criminal “herd immunity” policies that have killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.

The witch-hunt against Peter Daszak or any other respectable Scientist for that matter is intended to silence all those individuals who do not subscribe to the Wuhan lab conspiracy. In fact this is what the American bourgeois media is doing today. For the powerful forces who control the media scapegoating is essential feature for diverting the masses from their own shortcomings.
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In many ways we are letting anarchists get away with it

Why can't we dispose of anarchists once they've shut down the current government
there doing nothing but causing problems for the working class if we keep them around we need to re-educate them
what do we do comrades.
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why do you hate national socialist?

You agree on the socialism part, but what is so reprehensible about the nationalism part, or in other words, what is so alluring about the contrary, globalism?
Please explain.
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/leftyNEETS/ General Thread

Get in lads, its gonna get comfy
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Happy Halloween post spooky stuff

Costco warehouse in the movie Idiocracy (2006) vs Amazon warehouse in slums of Tijuana Mexico (2021)
Spooky isn't it?
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October 24 webinar: “How to Stop the Pandemic”

Scientists make powerful case for global COVID-19 elimination
>The October 24 online webinar, “How to Stop the Pandemic,” marked a major advance in the development of a broad-based movement, rooted in the working class and informed by science, to fight for the elimination of the virus that causes COVID-19.

An amazing initiative from the WSWS, workers and scientists to thwart the capitalist death-profit cult. Scientific revolutionary socialism is intersecting with science itself to show the path through the graveyard of herd immunity by eliminating covid. The prognosis under socialism is life, whereas under capitalism it is death, economic destitution, environmental destruction and global war. The path must be made clear for workers to follow. It is the responsibility of all class conscious workers to help fellow workers understand the facts arising from last Sunday's webinar.
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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The horrific persecution of Julian Assange continues
>The attempted US extradition of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange resumed yesterday with the opening of a hearing into a US government appeal. It is a legal abomination in pursuit of a heinous crime.

What the UK High Court is doing to Julian Assange is extraordinary rendition in slow motion and in plain sight. His brave and principled partner Stella Moris, points out the most salient aspect of this monstrous legal travesty: that an innocent journalist is being extradited to the very same criminals who plotted his extradition and murder. This is what passes for "justice" under capitalism: a vast criminal syndicate in which the rich and powerful call the shots and subject anyone they please to arbitrary detention, torture and murder, using their network of media mouthpieces to slander the accused then censor the proceedings when it suits their filthy agenda.

Enough of the lies! Enough of life with covid, the rush to war, the trashing of the planet. Workers must band together and sweep away this unjust system, rescuing Julian Assange in the process.
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Poem thread

General discussion thread for all poems, socialist or not.

http://www.poemsfromtheportuguese.org/ (The Portuguese made great fucking poems)
I'll post 3 of them for now, maybe later I'll come back to this thread
>inb4 >>>/hobby/
that place is dead lmao.


>It’s after the flesh
>That the bones hurt
>And the face
>Recovers from fatigue
>And from memories
>After the flesh
>When our fingers meet
>We know the most real faces
>That inhabit us
>Are those of others.
by António Carlos Cortez.


>there is a smell, a scent
>between the gorse and you - the fig tree
>almond cicadas
>the sun’s uncertain step
>a sitting dog a hand
>a cat light and slow
>growing up
>the advancing afternoon
>so eager the world
>astonished hunger
>the hand
>the way to the lighthouse
>through the dusty earth
by Maria Andresen.


>Lenin walks around the world.
>Frontiers cannot bar him.
>Neither barracks nor barricades impede.
>Nor does barbed wire scar him.
>Lenin walks around the world.
>Black, brown, and white receive him.
>Language is no barrier.
>The strangest tongues believe him.
>Lenin walks around the world.
>The sun sets like a scar.
>Between the darkness and the dawn
>There rises a red star.
by Langston Hughes.
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Enough is enough comrades

We need to break the cycle of the political spectrum trying to piss one another off with memes we need to actually change things up a bit have our own opinions

we need to stop shitposting companies promoting woke bait garbage we need to be pushing against it because it is going against everything we are aiming for your just putting more money in the porkies pocket so wake up and realise that if we continue it will be our downfall.
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Jstark, 3d gun pioneer died of a (((heart attack))) this week, days after being raided. This is a man who died to give us the tools to throw off the yoke of our masters.

How do you feel about 3d printed weapons in the age of complete state dominance of violence, anons?


"Look at Afghanistan. Look at Vietnam. You only need your gun and sheer Will to take down the machine" ~ Jstark
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Look how they co-opt communist rhetoric and vulgarize it

>“The purpose of the protest is to highlight how out of touch Wall Street has become to the needs of everyday people and to challenge the Street’s uncompassionate capitalism,”

>“As a symbol of the outrageous disparity in wealth between the 1% and everyone else, 10,000 bananas will surround Wall Street’s iconic Charging Bull to illustrate just how ‘bananas’ Wall Street has become.”

>it’s not about rejecting capitalism or the current system. It’s about revolving them into the current future and letting them empower more groups of people. That’s the whole point of this story.”


>“Harambe is a representation of something that lets us look at more than just ourselves. What are we aspiring to as people? It’s about connecting. A simple gesture of giving a banana builds community. As a society, we need to come together. We can’t keep fighting to come together.”

1000% this stunt is from a enlightened centrist techbro promoting his crypto shit or some CIA buffoonery
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How do we defeat the spectacle?

How do we counteract the fact that the bourgeoise control every single big media outlet and all industry, and use it to basically drug the working class on a stream of endless amounts of garbage pop music, shitty movies, rushed video games and other mangled distortions of human culture?
How do we create a "People's Culture" so to speak, from the belly of the beast, and how do we make it work?
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personal property

I just learned that a printer company with a brand name that sounds like a large old-school projectile weapon, has sold people a multi-function printer, where the scanner stopped working when the ink was empty. Because you need scanner fluid or else you will burst into flames when you scan a page

corporations are attacking the concept of personal property.

I know this is the curse of production for sale instead of production for use, but still, this is a hole new level of insanity.
Is there a web-shop that curates commodities that have a minimum level of sanity. You know stuff that doesn't have malicious features, stuff that can be repaired, modular stuff, stuff that's completely yours after you buy it. The purpose of the web-shop is to act as a filter so you don't accidentally buy tainted crap.

If there isn't such a web-shop, how hard would it be to set something like this up, how hard would it be to do this kind of curation ?
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what do the left wing/communist/whatever the fuck movements in your country need to do to get its shit together and actually take over ?
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Blackpilled again

I got bombed the shit out of me to save the Ho Chi Minh trail and rescue the Yuons from annihilation.
They rewarded me with an invasion and the toppling of my communism.
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Did he win in the end? It seems like the world trade center attack accomplished exactly his goals of provoking an invasion of Afghanistan and tyrannizing Americans by their expanded security state. Or was that all going to happen eventually anyway, with or without al-Qaeda's assistance?
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the cogwar

>NATO is spinning out an entirely new kind of combat it has branded cognitive warfare. Described as the “weaponization of brain sciences,” the new method involves “hacking the individual” by exploiting “the vulnerabilities of the human brain” in order to implement more sophisticated “social engineering.”
>Until recently, NATO had divided war into five different operational domains: air, land, sea, space, and cyber. But with its development of cognitive warfare strategies, the military alliance is discussing a new, sixth level: the “human domain.”
>“The brain will be the battlefield of the 21st century,” the report stressed. “Humans are the contested domain,” and “future conflicts will likely occur amongst the people digitally first and physically thereafter in proximity to hubs of political and economic power.”
>militaries must work more closely with academia to weaponize social sciences and human sciences and help the alliance develop its cognitive warfare capacities.
>the NATO-sponsored report, which warned of “an embedded fifth column, where everyone, unbeknownst to him or her, is behaving according to the plans of one of our competitors.” The study makes it clear that those “competitors” purportedly exploiting the consciousness of Western dissidents are China and Russia. In other words, this document shows that figures in the NATO military cartel increasingly see their own domestic population as a threat, fearing civilians to be potential Chinese or Russian sleeper cells, dastardly “fifth columns”
>NATO and its allies in the military-industrial complex not only seek to dominate the world and the humans that inhabit it with unsettling cognitive warfare techniques, but to also ensure that corporations and their shareholders continue to profit from these imperial endeavors.

I highly recommend reading the rest of the article:

They eliminate the distinction between civilian and military, and everybody who disagrees with the imperial bourgeoisie is now a 5th column. I guess it wasn't enough that facebook gives people depression, they want anti-brain weapons now.
It's nothing new that the big bourgeoisie attacks civilians, like with sanctions, but this time they are after everybody. China has a great firewall, so nothing is going to happen to them but for the rest of the world, if these brain weapons work, it will fracture the internet into national intranets, at least until we get something like a spam filter for this stuff.
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Full shelves

I saw this video on tictok and it occurred to me: "Where does the idea that shelves have to be full come from?"
Seriously, the girl mentions in the vid that "instead of only selling 5 items cause that's how much they usually sell selves have to LOOK full."
Where does this idea even come from? I figure the only explanation was that it was baggage left over from the cold war where propaganda about the USSR included their supposedly empty selves.
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Jerusalem Holiday?

Can a leftist visit Jerusalem on holiday with being occupied and all that? And if not what is an alternative city that is equally as historic and interesting? Some place like Amman, Jordan or Beirut Lebanon?
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What is to be done about the german left?

What the fuck is wrong with them? Is it time to change the name or some shit?

They didn't attach themselves to the berlin landord seizures that the people voted for, they don't have hard positions on Covid

Their people are switching over to s*cial democrat parties and there's infighting?
What's the recipe to create a strong modern communist party in a capitalist country if you can't revolt violently?
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Alternate calenders

Gregorian calendar is shitty, why doesn't the left ever talk about switching to a better one? "decolonization" / Metric-ification, etc etc.

> World Season Calendar

7 day weeks, 13 weeks in a season, 4 seasons in a year
> 60 Week Calendar
6 day weeks!
> World Calendar
Perpetual calendar (91 * 4 + "world peace day"), perpetual Gregorian
> Soviet Calendar
5/6 day weeks, abolition of "weekend" (rotating schedules)
> French Republican Calendar
10 day weeks, all days/months named after nature
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Has anyone else noticed an uptick in genuinely retarded posts lately? They seem to be idpol focused or literally praising corporations? Are we being raided or something since most of these could probably be falseflag posts?
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Political Science

What do you think about this field? Have you taken it?

Do you regularly clash with the professors and students due to your communist leanings in the class? (i.e they would propagate anti-communist rehtoric that you know to be false?

Why would you take this field?
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They changed the name of Stalingrad.
Think about it for a moment.
Think what 'revisionism' really meant.
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Hudson vs Piketty

Looks like our boy Michael Hudson is at it again. Watch as he eviscerates infamous kool-aide drinker Thomas Piketty in this debate. Keynesians on suicide watch!
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Is nihilism all that is really left?

At this point in life I feel like the revolutionary left is dead and gone. I feel like we are all waiting for something that will never come like some kind of religious zealot. Marxism is about material analysis and praxis. Isn't constantly being an optimist about the future anti materialist and idealistic? Isn't it more sound to accept that we have lost? Have we lost?
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socialism will win !

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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US capital has stopped developing or doesn't need developing?

For example in S.Korea, they have such a streamlined process to manufacture their fake culture industry whereas in the US it seems to be much more happy go lucky, maybe you are manufactured artist or you just get lucky

But in S.Korea it seems to be more cutthroat and therefore fully, scripted to become an artist

What is the explanation for this? Is this the result of material condition? They have a smaller population that the USA, Is it because they're not a world power like them?

Or is the fact that the USA capital is just worse at developing and S.Korea have managed to become better capitalists?
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Bashar = people in Arabic
Mao: Serve the people.
Kim Il Sung: The people is my god.
I think we know what they want from us.
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on the incel/female question - why right cyberfeminism is the way to go

the other incel thread got derailed into age of consent shit-flinging, and furthermore i have a larger point so i will make a new thread. overall, i am of the belief that blackpill ideology and the materialist analysis of sex can be reconciled with one another. it is of my opinion that the reason so many incels are traditionalists stems from a fundamental false consciousness that has its origins in the truth of sex not having fully actualized

both black pill thinking and radical feminist thought share a fundamental kernel of truth: that sex based asymmetries are fundamentally grounded on the ownership of particular reproduction organs. other sexually dimorphic traits of the human species which are not primary sexual characteristics still play a role in job market, but as evinced from the fact that we still have unequal representation in jobs that do not require manually intensive labor, it should be clear that their role is far more minimal. there have also been posited psychological differences between men and women, but while they might have some explanatory power, there is a care that should be made, on how substantial these differences really are, which hasn't been had. my problem with this direction is that it uses a continuous distribution of neurodiversity in order to justify a bipartite categorical structure. furthermore, such an explanatory approach is practically inept, as it either suggests that nothing should be done in asymmetrical sexual standards, or an impossible regression in the material conditions of sex (id est, traditionalism). such a regression is, on one side impossible under hegemonic capitalism, and on the other hand, unlikely with current technologies (viz, automation, proliferation of contraception/protection from STIs, mate finding technologies like tinder, etc). this isn't to mention that a social-material regression would be predicated on women turning back on their material interests, which, without copious propaganda is unlikely. not only that, but many men either prefer to have women that are genuine intellectual and economic equals, or are simps who would rather prioritize the rights of women over their own sexual gratification

not only is standard traditionalism insufficient, but so is socialist approaches. the material conditions which produce asymmetries in sexual relations are mostly invariant to economic distribution strategies. we've had patriarchy since agriculture. technology and the reality of differences in reproductive labour are the ultimate determining factors

like i said, both incels and feminists recognize this. for the former, they note the expensiveness of wombs in comparison to dicks as an argument for why there is this difference in the ratings of attractiveness of the two sexes. on the other side, radical feminists understand that patriarchy is fundamentally grounded on ownership of women's bodies. both agree that the pussy monopoly somehow plays a fundamental role in the structure of society

my issue with feminists is that they place too much faith in their capacity to convince men to be on their side. at the end of the day however, it really does come down to a war of the sexes. men want pussy as social and economic currency. incels understand this intrinsically, since the main result of their incapacity to get laid is the resulting subhumanity/low rank in status that they feel. vagina=power, and men without vaginas are powerless subhumans (women have vaginas, and hence the on first analysis economically incoherent assessment that women live life on "easy mode"). to this extent, SCUM manifesto's inversion of freud is unironically correct. i should note here that while solanas might have intended her thesis to be largely satirical, we see this inversion both in lacan and jung. for the former, the sovereign is the mother, whilst for the latter, man's soul and source of spontaneity is in their anima (i.e. their feminine aspect). in both cases, the feminine is then intrinsically understood, either as a completing element, or the very ideal of completion itself. the problem was seeing the feminine as a mere negation, as opposed to an element which must be sublated for the truth of the male sex to be manifest

(if one is feeling particularly brave, male gender dysphoria could ultimately be grounded in this incompleteness of the male. im not sure how true this really is, but could be plausible. that the man's striving after creativity is contradicted by the womb's innate, effortless creative energy is certainly a contradiction that would cause much vexation)

so this liberal feminist idea that mere protest is sufficient is one that should be treated with skepticism. not only do men materially benefit from the patriarchy, but they in some sense ontologically aided as well. of course, the benefit in the latter case should be qualified which takes us to why incel attraction to traditionalism is fundamentally a false consciousness. a regression is plainly insufficient, and it failure lies in its fundamental ignorance of their real grievances. making women merely subservient to men obstructs man's reflection back into himself as the woman is still another animal which resists introjection. the problem with love (or recognition) is itself twofold:
i) the dialectic of recognition involves the incorporation of the woman qua consciousness into the man
ii) love and subservience are competing intentionalities. marriage, is in the last instance, a mating contract. "romantic love" and its relation to marriage is a prevalent idealist perversion which has its salience vanish when we move to traditional models

i should note that "transmaxxing" is not a serious solution either. and this is for numerous reasons:
i) reverse gender dysphoria is always a possibility
ii) with our current technology we do not have artificial wombs so it is an insufficient solution
iii) even if it was ultimately possible, it would only result in the male subject to transmisogyny since the womb is still attached to their organism

so we see here then that both feminists and incels have a false consciousness. they are attached to means that do not ultimately fulfill their ends. my claim is that fembots (and mayhaps menbots) can ultimately be the final solution to the incel/female question, but first i must diffuse another element in feminist false consciousness. this is centred around the outrage pertaining to sexbots
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The rich class have no real effects on their power from all the panama papers leak other than just more mud being slug on their names

Why would they assassinate someone that only brought their dirty laundry out in the open? Did some stupid rich liberal order the hit, because they freaked out like they'll get arrested like in some journo movie

What's the marxist analysis for this assassination?

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/auspol/ - Australia General II

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

Come one come all to watch this island off the coast of Asia slowly slide into a workers paradise or a live-action version of Mad Max.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/19690
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BLM amd Barry Washington Jr. vs Right Wing Self-defense

So did Barry Washington Jr. deserved to be murdered by Ian Cranston after harassing and assaulting the couple?
Or was Ian just an angry jealous white man?
BLM is making a big deal and doing protests.

I'll start first with CNN's take and then I'll provide the video and the opposite side's take

"According to CNN affiliate KTVZ, Hummel previously said that, prior to the shooting, Washington had complimented Cranston's girlfriend, but that there was "no allegation that anything Mr. Washington did was inappropriate."
"He complimented her in a respectful manner," Hummel said, per KTVZ. "She was fine back. She said, 'No, thank you. I'm flattered but I'm in a relationship."
However, Cranston was "not happy," Hummel said. "He said some words to Mr. Washington. Mr. Washington said some words back," Hummel said. "There was some pushing, some jostling, some punches thrown, but then it calmed down. It was not going to get out of hand. Then Mr. Cranston pulled a gun out of his waistband and shot and killed Mr. Washington."
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I think the O.J. Simpson's case should be talked about more, as the case study in mediatic manipualtion it was and still is.
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Who is the rotary club for?

Apparently this is some humanitarian organization that has stayed popular throughout the years
I don't understand how they've stayed funded for so long

My question is have they ever been swept through with the communists? Using their infrastructure and connections to do good while spreading class consciousness?

One wonders why a group based on doing good is exclusive to invite like some private tracker

Idk if this belongs on the raid board
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artifical scarcity

I watched pure ideology with at least a megazizek of added Malthusianism.

Is capitalism striving to create artificial scarcity to inflame artificial societal disharmony to keep the lower classes fighting each other instead of moving up to a socialist mode of production that can deal with all the new technology ?
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Karl Popper destroyed Marxism

Popper provided some arguments according to which, marxism can't be regarded as science. The main issue appears to be the falsyfication problem.
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South Asia and Desi General

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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North korean television on twitch
Damn it's great this television https://www.twitch.tv/koreancentraltelevision
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North korean television on twitch
Damn it's great this television https://www.twitch.tv/koreancentraltelevision
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mineral coups, how do they work ?

So not to long ago i was looking into aluminum as an anode material for batteries, because i thought that since Aluminum was such a common element it couldn't possibly become a conflict mineral. And here we go, just a month later there is a coup in Guinea for bauxite (a rock that is mined for it's relatively high aluminum content)

This is really annoying, i thought that it might be possible to design technology in a way that it could circumvent imperialism. I thought that Lithium was only the subject of imperial games because it's relatively rare. As it turns out this is wrong.

What's the error in my theory ? Not every raw material is stalked by the empire, so what are the characteristics that play the key role ?
Is it even possible to bypass the imperial machine or are they just going to jump on every material as soon as it's harnessed for a technological application. Is the type of technological application the key factor ?
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What exactly changed for industrial workers in the USSR?

To be clear, I'm not looking for stuff from picrel. I already understand many of the material achievements of the USSR, what I'm looking for is some discussion (ideally with some sources) on what changed "day-to-day" for the Russian worker. Say I'm a worker at a textile factory in 1917, I'm not entirely sure what the entire Bolshevik program is, but I understand that they're advocating for me and I vaguely support them. I don't join any parties, but maybe I have a brother who joins the Red Army.

Without getting into the minutia of the affects of the civil war, what changes at my workplace for me after the conclusion of the revolution. The kind of questions I want to ask are:

>Must I keep working at the textile factory, or can I apply for other sources of employment?

>Am I still paid wages? if so are they money or some kind of "labor voucher", if I continue to work at the mill, what kind of decisions am I able to make regarding its production (things like shift length, quotas, decorum or rules of conduct)?

>What does the "management" structure look like, do I vote for my manager (like how they did later in the GDR), can I fire him?

>If I'm late what happens? and what changes if I'm late all the time? If there's guaranteed employment and I get fired, what happens? Do I have to apply at another place of employment, or is that new employment assigned to me?

>Is the new Soviet labor process maintained, or is it stopped and replaced with another at some point, if so then when?

I would appreciate any responses, or even corrections if I made any assumptions when posing these questions.
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if technological advancement is an unconditional good concerning shortening labour time and increasing social connectivity then is it communist praxis to promote it's proliferation? and is it really the only communist duty in a liberal and post-political age? in other words, is the sham of the market really just the un-realisation of it's own capacities with stifling such as intellectual property and patents slowing down and shutting off competition and self-sufficient enterprises? that's my thought at least, in terms of production, the market simply fails due to it's own profit motive. it's the same principle as manufactured scarcity - you get to make more money by producing less - a communist society would be aimed at the highest modes of sustainable development, and this is it's central model, no? The accelerationist argument is simply that what creates technological advancement more effectively is the market, but we see from it's own self-limiting factors that this cannot be the case, so what is the strategy?
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Etymological propaganda and its influence on the Left

Democracy: Governance by lot with citizen participation in major decision-making
"Representative democracy": an Orwellian word inversion used basically to describe the Roman oligarchic system of governance with fake appeals to populism peddled by Jefferson, Madison, and especially Andrew Jackson

Were leftists of the late 19th and early 20th century aware that this word inversion had taken place? Did any of them have an inkling that elections were a naturally oligarchic institution? I am curious about the effect this historical revision of the democratic mode of governance had on socialist strategies, tactics, and institutions. I know Marx had an education in the Greek classics, so at least he was aware… Right?
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🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.

Other livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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Unruhe on Patriotism

So into this little Internet brawl of Midwestern Maupinist Marxists of 300 GHz characteristics and anime PFP third worldists steps in none other than the OG Jason Unruhe, here to promote the mass deportation somehow of all the 95 percent of people on the continent of N.A. who hadn't been descended from the people lived there hundreds of years ago.
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/cpk/ - Kampuchea general

Thread with documents about the last real communist revolution of this forsaken world.
Gott straife the revisionists.
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I don't think this semen slurping nation's right to self determination delcolonial narrative is for me bros.
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/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
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KPRF seems to be getting ahead in the russian elections

Moscow. September 20th. INTERFAX.RU - After processing 99% of the protocols for the elections to the State Duma in the Khabarovsk Territory, the Communist Party gained 26.51%, the chairman of the Central Election Commission of the Khabarovsk Territory Denis Kuzmenko told reporters on Monday.

According to him, United Russia got 24.50% of the vote, the Liberal Democratic Party - 16.19%.

The 5% threshold was crossed by the parties: "New People" - 7.72%, "Fair Russia - For Truth" - 6.45%, "Party of Pensioners" - 5.74%.

In the 69th single-mandate constituency out of ten candidates in the top three, Boris Gladkikh from the United Russia party, he gained 25.58%. The representative of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Petr Perevezentsev got 20.79%, the candidate from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Alexander Fedchishin - 9.11%. The turnout was 44.27%.

There were nine candidates in the 70th single-mandate constituency. The majority belongs to Pavel Simigin from United Russia - 18.14%. Larisa Zvinyatskaya, a representative of the Communists of Russia party, gained 16.14%. For the candidate from the Liberal Democratic Party Ivan Pilyaev, 15.22% of voters cast their votes. The turnout is 42.46%.

https://www.interfax.ru/russia/792303 (article is in russian and i passed it through google translate)
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Is Max Stirner a Nietzsche before Nietzsche? Nietzsche’s destruction of essentialism seems to me like a something like what Max Stirner was on about when it came to egoism.
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/awg/ - Audiobook Warfare General- first bread edition

Welcome to the first Audiobook Warfare general of leftychan!


>What is Audiobook Warfare?
The proposed name of an audiobook channel/podcast using multiple digital streaming platforms. Our goal is to amplify Marxian texts using audiobooks.
>Why Audiobooks?
Audiobooks are a great way to learn theory. Personally I have some for of dyslexia and I greatly prefer audiobooks to reading, audiobooks are also much more flexible and can be listened to while doing other activities.
>What are the goals?
The creation of a platform that allow users to contribute with audiobook texts and the monetization of said audios using YouTube's monetization and other forms of marketing derived revenue. The goal is that every person who submits an audiobook according to our general standard gets the money derived from ads.
>Holy shit I get money by reading communism?
That is the goal, we will analyze what are our options to monetize our audios and either keep the money to ourselves or use it to expand our channel.
>Ok I am in
Great! As this is the first thread we have to work on creating our online presence, Initially they will be managed by me. As of present time, Audiobook Warfare will have:
<YouTube Channel
Will be our main platform, hopefully we get to monetize it. We will have audiobooks uploaded as a whole, in case somebody wants to download it, divided by chapters for easier use. As well as an analysis and resume of books (necessary in the case of copyright infringement issues).
Will be used for promotion and propaganda.
A lot less censored than YouTube, can be used as a mirror if anti-communists sabotage YouTube.
Also can be used as mirrors.

This thread is for the discussion of the general conditions of this channel, feel free to suggest proposals, texts, and constructive criticism to our project!. We are going to have another thread on /edu/ dedicated solely at uploading material.
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Outbreaks at factories and workplaces fuel COVID-19 surge in the US
>While barely reported by the US news media, COVID-19 outbreaks in manufacturing, construction sites and other workplaces are a major driving force for the surge of infections and deaths in the United States.

Working class factory workers are locked into a situation where exposure to Covid is inevitable and the outcome for each individual ranges from bad to tragic.
I was very sorry to learn here that some factory owners are allowed to bring in jailed felons to replace workers who have died or quit. This brings down the working conditions and pay of the workers who have devoted a significant portion of their work lives to this industry.
This is one more facet of the class war, bragged about by Warren Buffet several years ago, that is being waged against the majority of people in this, and other, countries.
Thanks for the informative essay.
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Woodward revelations expose Democrats’ calls for “unity” with Republican coup plotters
>The Biden White House and Democratic leaders in Congress see any investigation into the January 6 plots as an obstacle to bipartisan collaboration with the Republicans.

The revelations coming from Woodward and Costa shows how close to dictatorship the system became during the final days of Trump Presidency. While knowing all these facts Democrats are still calling for unity and extending their arm to the right-wing Republican conspirators for the sake of not destabilizing American Capitalism and the two party system that has become the foundation of class rule in US. In any case, the events of January 6 and it's aftermath must be seen as a grave warning sign to the working class that their interests cannot be respected in either of these two ruling class parties.
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>Epik, host of 8chan, TheDonald, Gab, Parler, The Daily Stormer, Oathkeeper website and the Proudboy has been hacked, the domain information has been released. Anonymous has claimed responsibility for the hack. The hack seems to be legitimate and people have started releasing data.


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New book details Trump’s efforts to instigate war with China as part of January 6 coup attempt
>The new revelations shatter all attempts to downplay the significance of the events of January 6. Moreover, they emerge just days after Trump used the 9/11 anniversary to deliver fascist rants to police and firefighters in Manhattan.

Profoundly disturbing to think that the world 'yet again' came a hair width away from a probable nuclear catastrophe.

This reflects sharply on the role of the Democrats, and the vulnerability of the US working class to a fascist coup.

Workers must grasp the significance of this. They must build their own independent party.

Build the SEP….our future depends on it !!
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OnlyFans bans explicit content

>OnlyFans has announced that it will ban sexually explicit content starting in October. The platform was not built specifically for porn but that has grown to be its most popular and visible use case, but pressure from “banking partners and payout providers” means the company will have to leave the adult content world behind and focus solely on SFW material going forward.
>The news, first reported by Bloomberg, was confirmed by the company in a statement:
<Effective 1 October, 2021, OnlyFans will prohibit the posting of any content containing sexually-explicit conduct. In order to ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, and to continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines. Creators will continue to be allowed to post content containing nudity as long as it is consistent with our Acceptable Use Policy.
<These changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers.
<These changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers.
>OnlyFans did not respond to TechCrunch’s inquiries as to its definition of sexually explicit content or how it expected this would impact the company’s bottom line.
>The OnlyFans platform has become the de facto standard for independent creators doing adult content. Over the pandemic it grew increasingly popular as the adult industry, like others, had its normal operations interrupted. It has proved an invaluable asset for many creators, professional and aspiring, who used the platform to directly monetize fans without interacting with notoriously predatory established adult industry companies.
>But sex work has always been risky in online operations. The practical risk of hosting illegal content means platforms must exert constant vigilance for things like child sex abuse material, malicious content like revenge porn and unwanted leaks, and everyday internet threats like piracy.
>At the organizational level, however, the companies may find it difficult to scale due to the trepidation of investors and banks, both of which tend to avoid the industry in general as a “vice,” much the way cannabis and sex toy startups have faced challenges. Pushback from financial backers and payment processors can effectively sink an entire business model.
>OnlyFans in this case says openly that it is abandoning adult content due to exactly this type of pressure. While the company has recently debuted and promoted its OFTV app, a SFW alternative to the main OnlyFans site, and of course there are many creators on the platform who do not produce sexually explicit content, this will be an enormous blow to both the sex work industry and to the company itself. Affected creators were not notified ahead of time.
>“This is going to shatter a lot of people’s main source of income, the foundation of their entire business,” said Tristan West, who as dreamboytristan is a top creator of adult content on OnlyFans. “Me and a lot of people have got to do a lot of work to secure our business, move our assets, move our content to another platform. It’s not the end of the world, but this is a huge setback.”
>West noted that other platforms are finding ways to monetize adult content as well, such as Twitter adding its paid follows and sites like PornHub building out direct monetization opportunities as well. But OnlyFans holds all the cards and will need to make that transition possible.
>“I’d like to see them do what’s needed — it’s weird that they haven’t come to us and talked to us in any way,” said West. “Offer a quick option to download all your content on OnlyFans — that’s your asset, that’s your business. That’s the bare minimum that can do for creators.”
>It’s a serious question whether OnlyFans will be able to survive this transition in any recognizable form. The choice to abandon their most lucrative and loyal segment of customers and creators may poison the well, with others declining to rely on a platform that failed to support others. Investors, once wary of the risk of putting money into a sex-adjacent product, may now be wary of paying to board a sinking ship. That $1 billion valuation may be farther away than ever.
>The obvious and immediate answer from the tech community is to operate OnlyFans or something like it using cryptocurrencies, which are generally speaking not subject to these limitations. This may represent a way forward for the next platform, but for OnlyFans it may be too late to adapt.
>“Thankfully, we have a couple months,” West said. “OnlyFans was the top platform in this market but they’re not the only one. It’s an opportunity for someone else to come around and do better for sex workers and online creators.”
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Popular "Leftists" who must die after the revolution

I start, Chris Hedges, the ultimate cretin of idealism/moralism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNT3_qugjZU
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Fuck the "left" -- by a communist

So you are a "vegan/vegetarian?"
>without understanding that literally NOTHING will change unless we change ownership and economic structures.
So you are a "feminist?"
>you realize that you victimize women to the point wherein they are left no actual agency but their "victim status," right?
So you are "pro-LGBT?"
>you realize that US-based NGOs spread this horseshit and it will literally will never be acceptable to like 3/5th of the human population, right? Not because "muh lgbt bad," but because you are pushing it from the USA and its aligned countries in a top-to-bottom-fashion, you cretin!
So you think that first world unions and third world unions are basically the same?
>are you actually retarded, you dog? The first gets access to cheap goods due to imperialism, while the latter literally gets raped out of selling their end-products for a fair price.
So you think that Bernie Sanders/Jeremy Corbin/Alexis Tsipras will save us?
>each and every one of these humongous socdem faggots LITERALLY BETRAYED the working class of their perspective countries.

If you are not a communist in 2021, if you still shill your un-communist takes, if you still think that a "revolutionary class" could be raised in "the first world," you are out of your fucking mind.



The only realistic expectation we have is to watch The Empire burn, and after, see some kind of change.

for real

If you don't agree with the above, you are a fucking anglo piece of shit.
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September 11, the “war on terror” and the criminalization of American politics
>The White House and media have rolled out the red carpet for the war criminals of the Bush administration, showing that the criminality of the “war on terror” has permanently entered the bloodstream of American politics.

A degrading spectacle.
We find the same ruling class circles who are responsible in causing great horrors in many parts of the world in the aftermath of 9/11 are now coming together to commemorate these tragic events all in the name of social Unity. They are no doubt well aware that their continuous support of the financial Oligarchy made American democracy in the eyes of the working class a mockery to say the least.
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What are your thoughts on military conscription during peace times?

Conscription impacts many expects of a nation, from its military capability to its politics depending on the degree of consciption. Today few countries continue this practice. Norway, Singapore and Israel are among the few countries which still practice this, in Europe conscription is mostly non existant.

From a military standpoint conscription crates a large pool of units which can be quickly mobilised during war. Manpower which can be used to stem the tide or for offensive actions. Conscription can also limit the political power of the army or at least that's how the French reasoned it prior to ww2. It is also a vital part of national identity which would explain why many nationalist also advocate for conscription. However conscription can be costly as large stockpiles of weapons must be maintained for the conscripts as well as refresher training for conscripts. Futuremore it restricts the "freedom" of people by forcing then into the army for sometime.

I personally believe that conscription is essential for any socialist state, the likelihood of violent retaliation by capitalist nations and reactionary nations is far too high. As such we should be prepared for non nuclear
total war and having a large pool of soilders early on would be favourable.
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Why do people think we won the Vietnam war?
Yes, burger's military got wrecked but that doesn't mean they lost. That's just like doing k/d ratio idiocy. In fact what they couldn't achieve militarily (the containment of communism) they obtained other ways when Vietnam severed its ties with China.
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The Incel Problem

So recently here in the UK we had an "incel shooting" (Technically he was ex-Incel) and it has the entire media doing interviews and talks about the Incel "problem". What is triggering me though is that all these attempts to understand "Incels" seem to go actively out of their way to never, ever address any points Incels make or any of the material conditions that have led to the rise of Incels in the past decade. I can understand not wanting to give Incel views any creedence, but at the same time, you can't just ignore all the data which does show Incels do have a point that something in the dating scene has gone very wrong.

In the past decade, sexlessness among men under 30 has risen from 8% to 28% in one US study and 40% in another Australian study. Women's "sexlessness" has barely budged. You also have apps like Tinder which specifically use algorithms to put down young men and make them feel unattractive, unless they buy gold, suddenly with gold their profile is shown to more "compatiable" women thus they start getting matches, Tinder thrives on male misery and 80% of modern dating is done through this single app.
The one piece I've seen in the week since that did address one Incel point, debunked the Incel 80/20 view (80% of young women go for the top 20% of men almost exclusively), by showing all the data we have shows it's only between 60-70/20… I have no idea how this is supposed to be a massive own of Incels but apparently it is. People all over Reddit UK and twitter thought so.

These are real material societal issues, the fact it's leading to radicalisation is the obvious one, but there are many issues linked with not having relationships, being single is almost as bad for your health as smoking and the 20s are an extremely formative time in someones life, if you're going throughout your 20s without a single relationship or sex, how are you going to adjust to one in your 30s or 40s?

I don't have any real solutions to this, I think the only thing I could think of is making an open-source dating app that doesn't have the super manipulative algorithms and focuses more on and values and interests like OKCupid used to do before Tinder, but what is more interesting to me is why is everyone beating around the bush so hard on this topic instead of just addressing the material cause? Online Dating systems mashed with the the social order of dating (men have to approach) has massively weighted dating to the extreme in favour of Women promiscurity with a small number of "high value" men and dating apps are designed to basically disinfranchise and alienate young men so they splooge out on extremely expensive subscription services?

Let me end this on the end of one study looking at the modern dating "market"
>Women can draw from larger pool of prospects than ever before. Due to the significantly higher biological risks associated with reproduction, they are intrinsically far more selective when evaluating potential mates than males. In an online dating context, this selectivity is more apparent than ever, with significant knock-on effects. There is less pressure to "settle" than at any other time in modern history because of the availability of alternatives, and the speed of interactions.
>…The shifts in market opportunities and costs has had the effect of lowering the market value of the median male while also incentivizing a female to hold out for better candidates. Unsurprisingly, this has led to prime reproductive age individuals having less sex, as men are being disproportionately priced out of the market. We believe this is a material driver of the "incel" (involuntary celibate) social movement/problem.
>…To conclude, we believe these combined factors mean that young women are the dominant force in the dating market for the first time in human history.

This monumental shift in the past decade is apparently a taboo topic in the public sphere. Why?
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Global Capitalism Update September

It is time once again:

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so I read this article and it seems like the pkk is losing, what's the next step of their master plan, is there anyway they can turn the tide, especially if the US leaving syria?
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The role of the trade unions: Biden’s fairy tale vs. reality at Dana
>On Wednesday afternoon, President Joe Biden gave a Labor Day speech that presented a fairy tale version of the role of the trade unions. The brutal reality is playing out across more than 15 Dana auto parts plants as the UAW and USW attempt to force through concessions contracts that workers overwhelmingly voted down.

Biden's "we'd be in trouble" if there was a strike movement today speaks volumes as to what is the real power of the working class.

The ruling class is running scared. So much so that a section under Biden have turned to the Unions 'precisely' to nobble it.

Workers must not fall into the trap of subjective pessimism. They must grasp a more examined understanding of 'the reality' of who they are in capitalist society. That they have immense power at their fingertips.

The significance of the world capitalist debt crisis means that capitalism is hanging on to life by a mere thread, to which it knows if the working class merely flexes a collective muscle it will collapse like a pack of cards.

The stock market at "ever greater heights" is an illusion of strength. A desperate gamble and attempt to deceive the working class as to the "supremacy of the capitalist system".

In truth it is a giant Ponzi. Stock valuations that are nothing but "the Emperor's new clothes".

That is the 'real' content of Biden's words. It is a ruling class "crapping itself !!"
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material or fictional ecnomy ?

Michael Robert's:

150 years ago John Mills wrote that
>“panics do not destroy capital, they merely reveal the extent to which it has been previously destroyed by its betrayal into hopelessly unproductive works.”
These are perceptive points about financial speculation and its eventual demise: from leverage of debt to deleveraging; from boom to crash, brought down by investment in ‘unproductive sectors’. As Marx put it:
>“since property here exists in the form of stock, its movement and transfer become purely a result of gambling on the stock exchange, where the little fish are swallowed by the sharks and the lambs by the stock-exchange wolves.”

But what causes money to be increasingly invested ‘unproductively’?

Marx offers an answer based of the law of the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. Falling average profitability leads eventually to a slowing in the growth of total profits from value-producing capital, which even a switch into speculative sectors cannot reverse indefinitely. Eventually overall profits can fall absolutely. Marx called this point an ‘absolute over-accumulation of capital’. A slump in investment, production and financial asset prices then ensues. Credit is necessary in a capitalist economy to extend economic growth and productive investment, but it cannot sustain that expansion because that is dependent on the creation of real value, not fiction. If new value does not grow to match more credit, credit will turn into unpayable debt.

Financial crashes occur in sectors or even across the board, but they are not always accompanied by a collapse in investment and production ie a slump. But a slump in production always engenders a financial crash as credit drains away and debt defaults emerge. This suggests that what is going on in the ‘real economy’ is what decides a financial crash, not vice versa. Indeed, that’s the evidence from the post-war slumps has shown (see graph): when profits in productive sectors fall, so do financial (fictitious) profits.

from https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2021/09/07/booms-and-bezzles/

So there has been an orgy of money printing and that has gone into unproductive speculation of fictional capital.
And because fictional capital can't defy the real economy, it's going to get wiped out.
Once the fictional porky gang got obliterated, what happens to the real economy, that produces all the stuff people need to live.
Is that going to be unaffected or is there going to be chaos and break down?
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Bolsonaro’s coup plots in Brazil, under the shadow of January 6
>The Brazilian and international media’s recognition of the imminent threat of a coup is unprecedented in the 35 years since the fall of the US-backed military regime.

Bolsonaro’s turn to outright fascism and authoritarian rule under these conditions should be a wake up call to the working class population. His policies are almost identical to Donald Trump in every respect.
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this could be the last fucking straw. If there's any chance for total collapse it'd be this and we need to prepare for it.

how do we get ready for when shit hits the fan?
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> "Stalin was a mass murderer!"
< "No he wasn't, he was a mass executioner, because murder implies a broken law against killing and all killings under him were absolutely legal under positive law."

Whenever some anti-commie accused us of murder, always remember murder implies law. Revolution is the negation of old law and the creation of new law. Revolutionaries that win (and only revolutionaries that win) are never murderers. They are only killers at most.

And if you believe in natural law, you believe in spooks.
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IDPOL: A Meta Discussion

aka /leftypol/: An Exploration into the Causes and Effects of Identity Politics.
Let's get to the bottom of identity politics, bane of the radical left and blockade to normie socialism.

ITT post about idpol and anti-idpol.
Post literature, effortposts, infographics, etc.
Post about what idpol is, the history of idpol, idpol today, the problems with it, and how to deal with it.

The point of this thread is to develop our discourse on the topic. Currently the meaning of idpol and many people's understanding of it is extremely nebulous. This is a problem for us in addressing it in general. It is a problem for the mods appropriately moderating it. It's a problem for users knowing what posts are good. Most importantly it's an obstacle to people knowing what kind of theory is sensible and based versus what is idpozzed and cringe. Most of us will agree that idpol is a problem the left deals with to some degree more or less online or in real life. It is both an inferior understanding of politics and a way of baiting people. What we sometimes don't agree on is what idpol is and how it works. That's what this thread is for: fleshing out our discourse so that we can better combat liberalism (and other right wing politics) and promote communism.
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All US schools must be closed as part of a strategy to eradicate COVID-19!
>The unfolding catastrophe in the US makes clear the need to immediately close all schools as part of a broader strategy of eliminating COVID-19 in the US and ultimately eradicating the virus worldwide.

This utterly murderous fiasco is a warning to the working class.

If you think these lunatics have a solution to anything think again. Be it a Trump, be it a Biden, the inexorable crisis of capitalism dictates to all !!

End it before 'it' ends us all !!
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US ruling class cuts off pandemic jobless aid, pushing millions over financial cliff
>The termination of federal unemployment benefits, supported by the White House and Congress, is aimed at beating back the growing movement by workers against low wages.

A blatant class war is unfolding as we speak. The ruling classes in America are in midst of removing the pandemic jobless aid while at the same time are still buying 120 billion dollars worth of bonds each month for the sake of proping up the wealth of the financial Oligarchy.
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Effort Post General /EPG/

During these hard times (when vols kill vols) I thought that it would be more than appropriate to start an /EPG/ since for months I've seen users complaining about the lack of effort posts on leftypol.

In any case…

What is an effort post, you might ask? An "effort post" is a response written by a comrade that goes beyond the level of "fuck you" and putting effort into detailing his or her position.

Please be shameless, and plug your OWN effort posts ITT.

I would recommend the userbase to actually address said effort posts in their perspective threads, and the effort-posters to shamelessly screenshoot said posts here for future generations.

I'll start:
>on Caleb Maupin's intellectual enterprise:
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Слава Сталину - Stalin Thread

I though it would be a good idea to start a Stalin related research and discusion thread.

There are some interesting academic works that have appeared in Russian over the last decade as interest in this period of Soviet History has increased.
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Labor Day 2021 takes place amidst surging pandemic and growth of the class struggle
>Labor Day is marked in the United States today under conditions of a devastating resurgence of the pandemic and a growing movement of workers to break free of the corporatist trade unions.

Nice work by comrade Jerry White, which points to the contradictions of the present situation. After presiding on the pandemic disaster, which was inherited from the previous Trump administration, the Biden presidency relies on the trade union leaders to push the workers to work, especially the teachers. Not withstand their crocodile tears of “extraordinary sacrifices” of the American workers, not only Washington administration is presiding on the cuts in unemployment benefits, but imposing speedups on the masses. It is not accidental that poverty-wage Amazon was able to recruit around 500,000 new workers during the pandemic period. As described in the article, the working class has come forward to challenge the plans of the ruling elite, despite it being sabotaged by the unions. This was demonstrated by the Volvo workers, and now the Dana workers in a number of US states. They have come forward to forming rank and file committees, which is the only way to develop the class struggle.
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Marx and Joint Production

How is value determined in the case of joint production?

Let's say, it takes 15 hours of labour on average to raise and slaughter a chicken for its meat. How does the value of the chicken's foot or wing compare to the value of the chicken's head or the chicken's feathers?
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Marxist theories of CORRUPTION

I'm looking for resources. I remember vaguely that Trotsky had a text (speech?) about corruption as a natural counterpart of poverty/lack of abundance, but I might be wrong…

Any theorists tackling this issue? Thanks.
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Leftypol youtube channel

If someone took the initiative to create a youtube channel shamelessly advertising leftypo.org what content would you expect from that content creator? What advice would you give him/her?

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Cops are pigs with badges.


>Police officers in Baja California, Mexico were disarmed for 3 days during a check up.

>No armed robberues was reported during those 3 days
>A gun was found inside a toilet in the office building of the general director of the police department.

Top kek!
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Quite a few comments on this video claim that Cockshott is misrepresenting Hegel's work.


Is Cockshott correct, is Hegel just doing intellectual sleight of hand?

The video itself seems to be part of a series responding to comments from his blog where he seems to claim that Dialectical Materialism was invented by social democrats to corrupt Marx's work.

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Neoliberalism is still winning

tl;dr-I want to argue that rather than the end of neoliberalism, we are witnessing the restructuring in which it will become stronger than before. This is operated by fictitious capital, which should not be seen as an unproductive excess to the real productive capitalist process, but a vital part of its ability to evolve, adapt, and overcome crisis.

First some background on productive and unproductive labor. Let's take the example of a petty commodity producer. Assume that an hour’s labor produces $1 of value. The producer must undertake 4 hours of labor to reproduce their labor-power. That is the value of their labor-power is $4. They actually work for 8 hours, thereby producing $4 of new value, and so producing a surplus value of $4, embodied within a surplus product. So far, this all falls into the realm of productive labor.

But, the producer also has to spend time sending this surplus product to market, to be sold, and thereby to realize the money equivalent of this surplus value. Let us say it takes 2 hours for the producer to take the commodity to market and sell it. That means that the peasant has a cost of $2 in marketing the commodity, time that is taken up not in production, but in the circulation of the capital. This is unproductive labor. In fact, the producer has $2 tied up during this time that is not taking part in production, yet this $2 adds nothing to the value of the commodity.

Now, let's imagine a merchant comes along and buys the $8 of output of the peasant producer, for $7(below its value), but is able to sell this output in just half an hour. The merchant is able to make a profit. They sell the commodity at its value of $8, having paid only $7 for it, and having expended just half an hour $0.50 in selling it. Their realized profit is then equal to $0.50. The profit of the merchant derives not from exploiting the producer, but from the fact that they own enough money to do this, and because they can reduce the selling costs of the producer. This is the basis of finance capital and commercial profits. Finance Capital does not produce additional surplus value, but does increase the mass of realized profit. Not only does it do that, because as above, it frees up the time of the producer to be engaged in production, and thereby creating additional surplus value, it does so, because for industrial capital, it is not just the production time that is significant in the production of surplus value, and realization of profit, but also the circulation time.

Remember that the limit of economic growth is not solely the re-investment of profit, but also the time it takes to do so. The velocity of money plays a key role. A single merchant capital can circulate the commodity of several producers simultaneously, and in doing so it drastically reduces the circulation time for capital within the economy, and thereby raises the rate of turnover of capital. Because that rise in the rate of capital turnover frees capital to be able to engage in productive activity, it also thereby increases production of surplus value. This was all to tackle the common misconception that "unproductive labor" does not create value. As an aside, this is what Anwar Shaikh is referring to with Profit on Alienation, using his now infamous example of a thief that steals your television and resells it.

PART 2: Expectations
So at this point I expect everyone reading this to be familiar with how finance/merchant capital came to dominate the world economy. The 70's recession leading to neoliberalism, etc, etc… What I want to push back against is the idea that the neoliberal world order is breaking down. It is only now starting to hit it's stride. Everything until now was laying the groundwork for where we are heading.

Amazon is planning on bringing back shopping malls. The company has been looking for better solutions to its problems around last-mile shipping. This is made worse with items that have a high rate of being returned like clothes or furniture. They've settled on the solution of stores. [https://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-retail-department-stores-11629330842] I bring this up to show the long-term concentration of capital. Amazon first played a significant role in snuffing the life out of retail stores, only to now bring them back themselves. This was over a scale of 20 years. Now, there are many leftists that want to point to the lack of profitability of companies like Uber as a sign that capitalism is on it's last legs and there's this huge speculative bubble that's about to pop at any moment. Well the bad news is that it is entirely possible this speculation pays off and capitalism goes on. While a company like Uber is not profitable now, what's important is that its market share continues to grow(at the expense of taxis and public transport funding), and its workers are not recognized as workers at all but self-employed with no rights at all(There's a struggle going on over this right now in California).

So the fundamentals of this bubble are not entirely unsound. But the second contribution to the continued rise of asset prices is the government spending. If you borrow to invest in stocks or housing or other financial assets, you can feel confident that the government is going to continue to print money to lend to the banks(importantly this means maintaining low interest rates), which will only lead to more investment and a rise in your asset values. Everyone is trying to turn their business into a poker chip and get in on the action.

Finally, the pandemic is greatly accelerating this recovery. That's why stock prices soared during the lockdown. The lockouts are the perfect tool for the majority of the capitalist class, it allows them to stagnate the economy, which prevents the productive capitalists from competing for capital investment and raising the interest rate(if demand for money in order to invest in production outpaces the money supply, the rate of interest would rise and consequently push down investment into speculative assets). At the same time, it accelerates the destruction of productive capitals and allows them to be bought up by the financiers. This is part of the market growth of disruptive tech companies. The petty bourgeoisie that own their mcdonalds and KFC franchises absolutely hate what's going on. They are feeling themselves being used as the firewood to fuel the next upswing of neoliberalism. The actual owners in McDonalds the corporation doesn't care if storefronts close. They would likely prefer to move entirely to having grubhub deliver their food to people's homes. The majority of their profits are financial. The pandemic is also global, so it keeps the reserve army of unemployed high globally. So I continue to be puzzled by leftists that celebrate the pandemic as some great blow against capitalism. This is the the best thing that could have happened from capital's perspective.

This is what we should be expecting in the future and planning around. Global high unemployment, stagnation, and continued concentration of capital. All of this experienced by the majority of people as necessary and morally righteous. From the point of view of writing today, there's no reason for the bubble to burst, the speculators are right about continued growth. There's still a lot of wealth to be transferred to the top. Even if the rate of profit is low, the mass of profits are growing with no end in sight. Profit on Alienation(great foresight by marx with the name) will battle with profits on exploitation for primacy.
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/leftypol/ Do you continue to participate in electoral politics in your home country by voting in elections or have you given up on doing that these days?
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what can an introvert/loner do to help the socialist cause?
Before you ask I'm not an incel. pic unrelated.
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Capitalist Innovation Thread

Introducing the future of food: squareat. TASTE THE FUTURE!

Just for $55 a day you can get your recommended 2500 daily calorie intake.
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In honor of one of the greatest thinkers of all time

This is the Karl Marx appreciation thread, for revolutionizing the field of economics, that to this day causes bourgeois economists to seethe.

To one of the greatest materialist philosophers of all times.
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Does Dark matter really exist ?

Here is an introduction to the M.O.N.D. hypotheses which assumes that dark matter does not exist

The "MOND people" are motivated to drop dark matter because it does not have empirical evidence.
No detector has been able to find the dark matter particles even after decades of trying. That means there are no direct measurements and that makes many materialists a bit skeptical, as well as restless to move on to different theoretical models.

This is a riveting tale about gravity, the shape of galaxies and the speed of stars.

What do you think about dark matter ?
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American Nonresponse Question

I know that this is entirely speculation, however this theory would explain a lot about the US response to COVID that makes no scene without this theory.
As we all know the response to COVID by the American bourgeoisie state was very poor, America has a very high rate of infection and death, the highest of any wealth country, and higher then many third world countries. Why this is, is what I will call the American nonresponse question.
One solution to the American nonresponse question is that not responding the COVID is very beneficial to the American state. As we know COVID 99.9% of the time is very mild to younger people, but often leads to death of older people. Older retired people are a burden on the state and society because they have to have their needs met, yet they (in most cases) are unable to do productive labor. Economically older people are consumers and not producers. Having an older population is a strain on a nation's economy. Understanding this, the American state has perhaps decided that it is in their best interests to let COVID kill their older population to free up resources and labor to boost their economy, labor and resources that would otherwise be used to take care of the old. I understand that this sounds far fetched, however doing this would be in the strategic interests of the American Empire, and the American Empire has historically placed their strategic interests above the ethical and moral systems of the American population.
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Why is the far right more censored than the far left in the west? Are we really seen as that little of a threat? Or is this just BS?
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What are your thoughts on this? Is this the cornerstone BS that people buy and believe into the propagandic myth of "freedom" under capitalism?

>Just stop being poor and start a business and become rich bro! Just work hard and save pennies

Are people successful at it because they actually have something worthwhile to sell, or they just have enough money to throw at it until it becomes successful?
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How in fuck did Feminists whiplash from
>"We need to wear burqas and women need to be covered up because that is being freed from sexualisation, male gaze is the worst thing in the world, women in video games, media etc need to stop being sexy"
>"omg how dare you criticise Onlyfans, women selling their bodies is empowering and strong, you saying you don't want your daughter to sell her body to old fat men for sex is just internalised misogyny"
without Feminists not noticing this insane fucking massive contradiction?
Seriously it happened in like 2 years as well.
Isn't this just proof that most Idpollers actually hold no real greater ideological values than "Whatever works for me is what I believe?" They didn't have really the means to sell their own bodies so were pissed celebs and studios were what were raking in the bucks, but Onlyfans and such comes along and "democratises" the ability to be a prosititute and suddenly it's sexist NOT to male gaze women.
Also shows how social values are defined by Material economic forces as well.
What is crazy to me though is how sudden this ideological whiplash was in just like 2 fucking years. Went from Gamergate Hijab worshipping shit to the same Feminists spreading their pussies making Ahego faces for the same people they were calling Misogynist reactionaies a few years before.
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Anarchism General 3.0 -Orsetti Edition

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>139334)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
>Anonymous, Desert

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why did picrel become so popular, despite sucking and glowing so obviously? Why do zoomers like this and prefer it over IRC or imageboards? The reason its wordfiltered is because its well known that people shilling their dis.cords will lead to the death of a chan
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Let me express what's happening in Afghanistan in the only language some folks will understand: the Taliban are Pakistani contras, it's a campaign of Pashtun supremacy with training from a Pakistani version of the School of the Americas, and Ghani Baradar is their Pinochet.
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Why stop at "sex work"?

Since we are throwing out Marxism anyway just to appease liberal sentiments we could go way further.

>fetish work

A subspecies of sex worker specializing in shitting or peeing on their customers. Very endangered worker.

>mafia work

A mafia worker is a proletarian who is exploited by the mafia boss. He is forced by The System to extract out money and/or gold teeth from his victims for protection, but his evil capitalist mafia boss takes almost all of that and pays back the poor mafia worker only a small part.


The proletariat working in the US congress, UK parliament, etc. They produce new laws without which we couldn't live under capitalism. Sadly the politi-worker is not free and is controlled by the evil bourgeoisie.

>NGO work

The section of the proletariat that produces awareness about social injustices. Sadly, they are exploited by George Soros (their boss) who doesn't compensate them properly for all the awareness they created with their hard labor.


As opposed to the regular proletariat which is exploited in the workplace, the NEET-proletariat is exploited by the system as a whole, forcing him to live with his parents and post sad content on the internet about something called the "black pill." The NEET prole is the most exploited prole of all, since his exploitation comes from all directions, resulting in such total alienation the regular proles never experienced.

>pet work

The work done by domesticated animals like dogs and cats. They work hard on creating emotional stability in their human counterparts, called "owners". Probably the most exploited type of worker, since they are basically slaves with no freedom whatsoever.


The vegetariat produces growth in their bodies, resulting in edible vegetables. It is debated whether they are more exploited than the pet workers or not, since the former doesn't typically get eaten.

>atom work

The "strong force" is a worker which attracts protons to protons, neutrons to neutrons, and protons and neutrons to each other. Without his work matter would literally fall apart, yet he gets no monetary compensation whatsoever.

>god work

A God(dess) worker is somebody who creates a universe out of love for his or her creation. Without god work there would be nothing.

What other types of work exist?
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An assortment of Breadtubers have joined forces to take down Caleb Maupin's 2015 book on Israeli control of the world economy.

To be honest, I think this is the nail in the coffin for Maup. I'm 200% anti-Zionist, but the stuff in this book comes very, very close to full-on antisemitism. Insinuating that Israel controls the world, that (((da joooz))) killed FDR in order to prevent America from moving towards communism, and a bunch of other junk I won't name here.

Also, does Caleb have a single original idea that isn't a more Marxist-oriented version of LaRouche?
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RT has no credibility

Picrel. RT photoshopped the original image of afghan refugees to have a rocket launcher. Someone ought to inform newsanon that RT does not qualify as news.
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How does the economy work?

It's the opinion of most neoliberal economists that directly compensating the general population during times of economic downturn results in financial instability. References to Weimar Germany simply printing more money in an attempt to avoid collapse are always found in this context. Still, most neoliberal economists support large bailouts and stimulus packages for corporations - why is this?
I can't seem to wrap my head around it, even while viewing labor as a part of production
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whats your stance on united states of europe?

EUSSR is the product of the amalgamation of the acronyms EU (European Union) and USSR (Union of Socialist Soviet Republics). Eurosceptics use the term EUSSR to connect the tyranny of the EU with the tyranny of the USSR.
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If the bourgeoisie is defined by its access to capital, wouldn't that mean that almost everyone is bourgeois these days due to how easy it is for anyone to obtain lines of credit like small business loans and mortgages?
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Leftist Unpopular Opinion

What is your Leftist unpopular opinion leftypol?

>The West is not responsible for every shitty thing that happens in Developing countries, most developing nations just have completely nonfunctional institutions and many suffer from simply having no sense of national identity or cohesion.
>Also "Muh British lines are bad" isn't an excuse, that's practically just arguing that non-ethnostates/Tribal Kingdoms can't work for Africa, South East Asia etc.
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a communist society would be just as coercive and alienating as a capitalist one

let's think about labor. I'm still going to have to work, regardless of wherever on the roadmap to communism we are, work has to be done as humans have constant need. the model is 'from each according to their ability, to each according to their need' but what about when we have an abstract, collective need? the need for beauty, the need for public developments, the need for waste removal. what is going to motivate somebody to work the shittiest jobs that we desperately need to get done? the jobs that are the most life threatening? what about when they require specialization and a significant workforce behind it, why would somebody work HVAC when they could just work some generic white collar job?

and what about when I refuse to work at all? Am I denied food and shelter, thus coercing me into giving my labor for basic necessities? and if not, then what is to even incentivize me from working consistently or at all? we all know there are way more aspiring actors than there are genuine actors. we all know people won't be rushing to work pest control. meeting the basic needs of a society requires sacrifice, I don't see depending on good natured people to handle poop all day when they could just as easily flip a burger as sustainabl
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Kyle Kulinski

Who watches this fucking hack? Why is he so popular? He has the worst most milquetoast takes that you know he just formed by scribbling down talking points from Twitter.
He's a fucking retard when it comes to analyzing anything. He's supposed to have some sort of political science background and yet he only ever characterizes politics in terms of left vs. right, Dems vs. Republicans and it's always - well this happened because the Republicans are just evil or dumb.
Who the fuck watches his videos and thinks he does a good job?
He's also always like 3 days late to comment on any current event because he's busy waiting for everyone else to form original opinions on things that he can steal.
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Weaponize Earthquakes

Haiti was on the middle of a civil conflict when an earthquake hit them, surely the political impact of it will be of relevance, Should a revolutionary left weaponize tectonic movements as to destabilize (no pun intended) capitalism? Is it even possible? Perhaps detonating a nuke in a geographical fault?

Let's discuss the political impact of earthquakes.
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AMA- I Feel Good For Collapse / Political Nihilism

Think of the people who had learn that they will die after 5 years; what they do? At first they may become depressed but after they would become ~happy~ and decide to spend their last times good and productive as possible instead of crying or being in despair for death
And i think i should do that too. There is no point of being in despair or worrying about world. I'm tired and it had damage my life even when when i'm still young. Just because of caring about humanity&world, i damaged my life irreversible way. Admit it, we can't do much change even at climate-crisis or people started to live at pods with low-RoP because masses are non-revolutionary. At the climate-crisis; people will blame """overpopulation""" over than neoliberalism and legit %50 of population will call pods as """technocratic-gommunism""". The left in US is AOC or DSA while leftism doesn't even exist at third-world; expect than (maybe) China and some LatAm, which are also mostly related to national liberation
I'm tired of reactionaries, i hate them more every say but at the same time i getting used to them. They are just living animals;who only builds blocks, wears clothes and have a language. The greatest thing about climate change is that they will die.This is what humanity is and there is no point of civillization that we fight for. Yes, i know there are also good parts of our civillization too, i'm also an artist and explorer,many of things to discover and experience but what they are compared to world? Very little and even those things are full of shit. One of my fav artists exposed as pedo this week, one of them deleted himself from internet because people doxxed hım, many of other artists such as Marilyn Manson are exposed as evil. Many of French philosophers were pedophiles, Ancient Greeks were rapists and so on.
Look at reactionaries which are large. Look at consoomers. Look at most of leftists. What masses do think about communists? Environmentalists? Secularists? Bad, porkies doesn't even need army because they already have an army composed by their slaves. They will attack you for defending them, and humiliate you as "loser/weak".
In short, i don't see anything worth for saving about humanity and i will not be sad but even will become happy because of reactionaries and other disgusting majority will die.

So as civillization will collapse, i think we should spend our last times good& productive as possible. There is nothing matters anymore at this point…

But am i wrong? What should i think about that?
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I've recently talked with some NPC who asked, without prior research as usual
>How do you state what you need under communism? Do you send the government an email saying I need a coat, or a google form? How would it literally be done?
After studying some of the biggest corporations who internally plan their economy, here is what I've found

Walmart hired Logiwa to author tailored software for this purpose. They keep track of their inventory using electronic data interchange methods. Walmart shares data on inventory stock and demand with its supply and distribution centers. Suppliers keep track of the inventory from various sale sources and storage locations. This is called multichannel inventory management.
The suppliers know at all times what products are needed, how many are needed, and when they are needed. They also save costs on storage space by reducing the size of their inventories with logistical techniques such as cross-docking. Here are articles that go into more detail about this

There is also Amazon, which took Walmart's method to another level by predicting demand, anticipating what products customers will buy. They achieve this by using artificial intelligence, particularly machine learning. The AI handles, in real-time, data such as the time products are purchased, the price of a product at purchase. Amazon knows how long customers look at a product before buying it, what other products customers look at, and how long these products stay in shopping carts. Amazon also sells this service themselves to other businesses

As an economy, Walmart is around half the size of the Soviet Union at its peak. Today it takes 10th place amongst the world's biggest economic entities, ahead of Australia, South Korea, India, and just behind Canada at 9th place. If Walmart can do this, states can too.
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How do you spot wreckers? And when you spot them, how do you stop them from destroying your org?
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New Sincerity

He was right, you know

>The next real literary "rebels" in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe that'll be the point. Maybe that's why they'll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today's risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the "Oh how banal". To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows.
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If you're American, this period was known as the "satanic panic", being kicked off from a witchhunt over alleged ritual sexual harassment at a daycare. Accusations were made in 1983, arrests and the pretrial investigation took place from 1984 to 1987, and trials ran from 1987 to 1990. The case lasted seven years but resulted in no convictions, and all charges were dropped in 1990. By the case's end, it had become the longest and most expensive in American history.
All while this trial went on, children's cartoons, books, music, and games were subject to scrutiny from lobbyists and the public alike.

However, the UK also had a moral panic if their own, calling for a crackdown on "video nasties" that could corrupt the youth.
This panic started when a distributer sent an anonymous letter to some bigwig in the National Viewers' and Listeners' Association. Thhey complained that their movie was "too nasty" for the screen.

Why did Anglos believe that heavy metal would turn their children into violent hell spawns?
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What is /leftypol/ opinion of George Carlin?

He is quoted often about life, world and politics and had a doomer esque/fuck the system vibe to him.

What did you think of him?

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give me your explanation on why middle eastern countries went reactionary after the 80s, and no I'm not talking about Iran or Afghanistan only, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, how did they all gain a conservative population simultaneously, and where these people just sitting around until the chance for them to rise up was near?
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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Kung Fu Yoga- China vs India

>There have been skirmishes at the border, notably at Doklam near the Bhutan border in 2017 and last year at Galwan Valley at Aksai Chin with reports of casualties on both sides. Aksai Chin is located by China’s strategic road National Highway 219 runs whereas the Doklam plateau overlooks the crucial Siliguri corridor, a thin strip of land that connects India’s North East Region, home of another disputed territory Arunachal Pradesh with rest of the country. These have been part of a general atmosphere of heightened tensions, with reports of China building more airstrips in Tibet region and settlements at the border regions and India too increasing infrastructure projects and troops at the borderlands.

>India’s government has been making big overtures to the US since the The UPA government led by Manmohan Singh’s 2008 Nuclear deal. Last years “2+2” summit between Foreign Affairs and Defence Ministers from India and the US, signed the BECA Agreement which allows for bilateral exchanges of Geo-spatial and satellite data and high end military technologies between their militaries. This will involve data sharing on Chinese troop movements for example. In addition, India has also inked a deal to purchase 3.4 billion dollar worth of military hardware that includes Apache helicopters last year, as opposed to past decades when Russia and UK had been their traditional arms merchant.

>All of this becomes crucial in light of the aftermath of 2017 ASEAN Summits in Manila where the US along with India, Japan and Australia revived the defunct QUAD – Quadrilateral Security Dialogue- as a strategic counterweight to China presence in the South China Sea. India has also taken part in military exercises under QUAD in 2020 and 2021, and a QUAD+ is developing with participation from Canada, NEw Zealand and Republic of Korea joining the original four. Notably for regional politics, there are also signs that Vietnam, which has its own claims on parts of the South China Sea, could be moving towards the Quad. Hanoi has received Japanese military assistance and has recently conducted naval exercises with India in the Pacific.

>Needless to say, China has expressed displeasure at this growing alliance and has warned Bangladesh, India’s neighbour, against joining. If QUAD is indeed an anti-China alliance, then India is a crucial member, being the only one to share a land border with China as well as a physical presence in the Indian Ocean, a key geostrategic site for China’s Belt and Road. Eastern uncertainty makes the China’s ‘iron’ bond with Pakistan and the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor a valuable asset. The Pakistani port of Gwader allows China a reliable route to the Persian Gulf circumventing the Indian Ocean. Politically China could also exploit Pakistan’s dispute with India, especially regarding Kashmir, a region all three have a stake in.

>The Indian establishment have developed the ‘string of pearls’ theory, to describe how China is seemingly building alliances through investments in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, The Maldives and Pakistan to encircle India. India’s Act East policy, an upgrade of its Look East Policy by the NDA government in 2014, an attempt to become more proactive in South East Asia by improving ties with ASEAN and BIMSTEC (Bay of Bengal Initiative for Multi-Sectoral Technical and Economic Cooperation) can be seen in this light of the string of pearls.

Full article: https://newmultitude.org/kung-fu-yoga-china-and-india-on-a-collison-course/
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How do you guys solve the economic calculation problem?

The thread on /edu/ is dead so its not producing many conclusions.

I think calculation over labor time could work idea although I have no evidence for it.

also for your answer is there any mathematical evidence?
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A Casual Look at The Republican Party

(Posting this here too because y'all split more than Trotskyists)

The GOP has always been a subject of fascination for me.

My family is old WASP stock and were, until recent memory, Republicans through and through. We'd been Republicans for as long as the party existed, motivated in part by Liberal progressivism to crush the power of the Slavers in the south and later to secure better business opportunities. You could say that the Grand Old Party is in our blood.

And yet my lineage has always been contradicted by my personal history with the Republican Party. Being raised during the Bush years (and with my Father being the black sheep of the family for switching Democrat) I'd seen Republicans not as the honorable people wanting me to make more money that my grandparents tried to present them as, but as a party driven almost singlehandedly by a desire to make the world worse. Simultaneously, being a Californian, the Republican party is almost as irrelevant as the Greens or Libertarians out here, being in third place behind unaffiliated voters and Democrats. It's bad enough that a former vice-chair of the local GOP declared the party to be "dead" around 2018!

The combination of a political party being woven so thoroughly into my family's history, and simultaneously so alien to my own experience, has always made the Republicans a subject of fascination for me, and the present Gubernational recall of Governor Newsom has gotten me to thinking about them again. I thought it best to post my thoughts here, if not to start a discussion then perhaps to predict where the GOP will be in a decade down the line.

"As California Goes, So Goes The Country"
It's an old adage that I first encountered, funny enough, in a Breitbart article. I can't for the life of me remember the title or even the subject of the article, but I remember those words clearly; of course written from the perspective of a conservative screaming against the dying of the Light.

A few decades back, California was one of the reddest states in the nation. We'd (unfortunately) given the country Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon. One of the major arteries of Angeleno traffic was the Ronald Reagan freeway which, like it or not, you'd probably end up travelling on if you lived adjacent to L.A. county. Private schools would host field trips to the Ronald Reagan library where they were given hagiography of "one of America's greatest presidents!" I remember there even being some talk of adding Reagan's face to Mt. Rushmore!

Yet by some arcane means, the Republicans had fallen from dizzying peaks of success. What happened? Ironically, it's a process I think is playing out on the national level: Republicans were the victims of their own success.

For a time, one of the largest employers in California was the Aerospace and Defense industry. We built advanced weaponry that we imagined would one day be used against the USSR. This interconnectedness between the military industrial complex and the everyday Californian created a loyal block of Right Wing voters. After all, a more hawkish president meant more jobs for the Californian middle class, and Republicans were far and away more hawkish than Democrats.

And yet Reagan and the Republican Party's success in "winning" the cold war came at a cost. Overnight thousands (if not millions!) of jobs predicated on America having a national "enemy" were gone. The movie "Falling Down" is an excellent period piece, in that regard, as it portrays the general cynicism and hopelessness of California's white middle class.

Looking at the rest of the country, I see this process repeating itself. Republican policy isn't creating any kind of meaningful jobs, or cutting costs of living, if anything its destroying previously safe industries, from industrial workers in Reagan's day to taxi drivers today. The Republican base is shrinking, not just from age, but from their party platform. When there's no more welfare left to cut, or taxes to slash, or bureaucracies to underfund, then promising these things to an already immiserated population just won't cut it.

The Disaster Presidencies
If you're under 30, I think it can be said that the Republican party has made your life demonstrably worse.

That isn't to say Democrats are better, mind, but that people can at least look at the last two Republican presidents and see immeasurable catastrophe from their leadership. Bush gave us a permanent recession, two pointless wars, and a disastrous response to Katrina. Trump will be known for his failed response to COVID and his caustic personality. At the very least, Obama can be remembered for his charisma, even if he was utterly useless as a leader.

For the record, the split between Bush and Gore among young people was pretty even. It was only after Bush fucked the country beyond repair that the youth overwhelmingly went Democrat. Gen Z, similarly, has no love for Trump. And contrary to popular wisdom, people become more partisan as they age, not necessarily more conservative.

The future for the Republican Party looks fairly grim. Should Trump run again in 2024, even if he wins the primary but loses the election, he'll have permanently poisoned the well for the GOP, something that'll increasingly come to damage the party even if they manage to hold on to their current position of minority rule. If a party like the Republicans can maintain power even amidst widespread dissatisfaction, then the contradictions of America's electoral system will most likely radicalize more of the U.S.'s working class.

America 2030, a one-party state?
Imagine, for a moment, the Republicans can't course correct. They stick with Trump's rapidly disappearing base of psychotic evangelicals and the petite-bourgeois. At what point, do Republican voters give up? I don't believe any party, least of all in America, can sustain continued losses and widespread unpopularity for decades.

So, should the GOP collapse, both from a shrinking base and widespread cynicism about their chances, what then? Well, I personally believe the most extreme right faction of the GOP will fracture, while the moderates will quietly be folded into the Dems.
From there, perhaps, we'll see the possibility for change, real change, of an independent left-party to challenge the hegemony of the ruling rightwing coalition.
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why do the cryptoguys do what they do ?

This is a bit tangential to socialism which strives towards materially planning an economy with cybernetics and so on, but bear with me.

Why do most crypto currencies pander to financial speculators ?
Why aren't they trying to pander to merchants, producers and service providers instead ?
Maybe even try to avoid having financial speculators ?
One would assume that at least the people who are in it for the blockchain based commerce would be trying to get their system to prioritize hosting actual trade with physical goods and services.

It looks like they are trying to do capitalism in reverse order: beginning with the financialisation-stage and then going back to material trade later.
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Anyone know anything about the Maoist Insurgency in India? I just learned it exists
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Pic related is one of the C-17 flights out of Kabul
It should be all women and children. Good to see some of them. Not enough though. For in the middle east women are victims.
It should have been all women. They face a fate worse than death, and the men of their own country won’t protect them. Every man on this plane is taking the spot of a little girl who will be a child bride by the end of the week, subjected to daily rape and forced pregnancy for the rest of her short, miserable life.
Afghani men are unforgivable cowards for allowing this to happen. I have no sympathy for them because they have none for their women.
China's plan was to work with Russia and the Pakistan generals to remove the West from Afghanistan through their Taliban proxy. China supplied the cash for bribes. Russia supplied satellite intel. Pakistan generals directed the Taliban leadership and fighter moves. Check-mate America, you got played.
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Why has advertisement become such an absolute shit show? When I see ads on YouTube at this point they make little to no sense. Is capital just desperate? Is it just reaching exponentially trying to force as kuch shit down out throats? What's the deal?
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if there are no morality why side with proles?

AS a effective altruist im kinda interested in automated communism but i cant undestand why, since marx as an a-moral philosopher,marxists choose to side with dirty,ignorant,base proles instead of the cultured, refined upper classes.
i would understand if the answer was "Justice", or "equality before creation",etc. but for people who are amorals,why pick the loser side to cheer for?
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These memes are so stupid

A look at the memes the general/right wing population propagates in their corporate owned websites. They lack any factual argument. Yet, unironically they are popular. How do we counter this?
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Reopening schools poses major risks to children's lives
>One of the many documented perils of COVID-19 for young people is lasting neurological and psychiatric symptoms.

Covid-19 brings out so strongly the class divide as this perspective shows. There has been no clearer example of the insanity of capitalism since World War 2. The drive to deliberately infect, permanently disable and kill thousands of children (just in the US) for the sake of propping up the stock market, can be compared with the sacrificial rituals of the Aztec high priests, who cut out the still beating hearts of their young victims and threw their bodies down the steps of the high temple to "appease the gods", thereby clinging to power during times of pestilence and crop shortages.

Bryan Dyne nails it with the statement "Workers must take the opposite view, that there is “no money” for capitalists and every resource necessary directed toward saving lives." Revolutionary socialists must take a still more severe view, that it is capitalism that must be excised before it claims and maims millions more victims.
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Afghanistan’s crisis will soon be Europe’s too Afghanistan’s crisis will soon be Europe’s too

> “Everyone I know is planning to leave,” a former Afghan minister tells me. “And I know a lot of people.” But it’s not just the elites that feel this way. 
>One morning, I take a long walk in the Kabul market, dressed in Afghan clothes. You can buy anything here. Endless streets, with stalls full of electronics, clothes, animals, automobile parts … I am told by older residents that under the Taliban, there were no more than one or two dozen stalls here. This vibrant new city, where will it go?
>Driving across town, one can already see internal refugees setting up tents in Kabul’s parks or arriving in the capital with all their belongings tied to the rooves of their cars. They are escaping from the cities in the north that have just fallen to the Taliban. When Kabul’s turn arrives, there will be nowhere left to escape. 
>But where will they go? The Taliban will not prevent them from leaving the country. At least that is the early indication from the Iranian border, and other posts where the Talibs are in control. The group probably likes the idea of removing the internal opposition by opening the gates.
>Pakistan will likely have similar views. It will not welcome the refugees from its neighbor, as most Afghans leaving the country hold Pakistan responsible for the unfolding tragedy. 
>As for Iran, most accounts I have seen already estimate the total number of Afghan refugees in the country at around three million. Diplomats in Kabul suggested to me that Iran might be willing to build refugee camps on its eastern border. But it would need support for that, and the European Union is yet to make a move. Politically, it could be difficult to work closely with Tehran. And American-imposed sanctions might make it impossible to provide support in the amounts the regime will demand.
>There is Turkey, yes, but Turkey too has reached its absorption capacity. Over three million Syrian refugees now call Turkey their home, and Turkish public opinion is openly against any further arrivals, particularly from Afghanistan, whose culture and customs differ markedly from Turkey’s. 
>One can see where this crisis is inevitably leading. The suffering procession leaving Afghanistan will have no other choice but to head to Europe.
>So far, Brussels has done nothing to save them from the nightmare advancing at home and continues to focus on its domestic affairs. Everything happening in Kabul could just as well be happening on the moon.
>Since 2015, the European Union has developed a new, securitized approach to its eastern borders. Fences have gone up almost everywhere, and even drones are increasingly used for surveillance. In February last year, Greek security forces impressed on the world that they were willing to do almost anything to keep refugees away. But will this approach work in coming months? 
>The truth is, it did not really work before either. When the pandemic hit, refugee flows stopped for a while. But they were bound to return, and with renewed force. 
>A diplomat in Kabul tells me, as we sip tea in his garden: “When the numbers are high enough, nothing can stop them. Not even tanks.” 
>A second diplomat, with great command of all the figures and facts arriving from the borders with Iran, adds dramatically: “This will eventually make its way to Europe. And then we might see one government fall, and then another, and another.” 
>This is perhaps a dramatic flourish, but he is entirely correct on one point: In many European countries, the refugee crisis of 2015 was perceived as an exceptional occurrence, never to be repeated. This is how the events were justified to the European public. It was a false premise, which will now be put to the test. 
>Is there time to stop the tragedy? That remains to be seen. But for Europe, it would be a fatal error to dismiss the present moment as someone else’s problem. The fall of Kabul raises questions of its own political survival. 
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Cuba legalizes small and medium enterprises in boost for private sector

Cuba legalizes small and medium enterprises in boost for private sector

The Cuban government on Friday approved a law authorizing the creation of small and medium enterprises (SMEs), a major shift in the communist-ruled country where state-owned companies are the norm.

The Cuban government on Friday approved a law authorizing the creation of small and medium enterprises (SMEs), a major shift in the communist-ruled country where state-owned companies are the norm.

The change comes nearly a month after thousands of Cubans flocked to the streets decrying dictatorship and complaining of hunger in the largest demonstrations since the revolution that brought the late Fidel Castro to power in 1959.

At least one person died and hundreds were arrested in the unusual mass protests, which the government claimed were provoked by the United States.

President Joe Biden has slapped fresh sanctions on Cuban police for suppressing the unrest, and warned of additional punitive measures if the communist regime does not address the protesters' demands for sweeping change.

In recent months the Cuban government has accelerated reforms to modernize the economy and staunch the worst economic crisis the island nation has experienced in 30 years. In part driven by US sanctions, the downtown and chronic shortages of food, electricity and medicine have been exacerbated by stringent measures against Covid-19.

In February, the government decided to open up much of the controlled economy to the fledgling private sector, except for key areas such as health, media and education. Around 2,000 activities were made available to self-employed workers.

Roughly 600,000 Cubans are estimated to be working in the private sector, about 13 percent of the workforce. But these so-called "cuentapropistas" have called for a legal structure that would explicitly permit their businesses.

Friday's green light for small and medium enterprises was given during a session of the State Council, which President Miguel Díaz-Canel joined via video conference.

"The State Council approves the decree 'On Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises' which allows for their coherent insertion into the economy to be part of the productive transformation of the country," a note posted to the National Assembly's website said.

In June, Prime Minister Manuel Marrero Cruz warned that the expansion of permitted private activities would not be allowed to go too far "as there are limits that cannot be exceeded".

But Oniel Díaz, a consultant specializing in Cuba's business development, said the new SMEs law still represents a turning point that many Cubans have been eagerly anticipating for years.

"For the Cuban economy… this represents a giant step that will have consequences in the medium and long term" for the reconfiguration of the national economy, he told AFP.
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I found african /pol/ dump info you have on it here

I figured out where africans post about politics and why they're almost never active on any western imageboard find something on there bring something back
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What does leftychad think of right to work laws?
Should workers who don't pay dues be afforded the same benefits as dues paying members?
Should work places be forced to have unions and how hard does this make then cucked out to capital?

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Biden’s Afghanistan speech: America’s criminal war ends in debacle
>The scale and impact of the catastrophe suffered by American imperialism in Afghanistan, which in many respects exceeds even its defeat in the Vietnam War, found expression in the speech, perhaps the bleakest address by an American president in half a century.

Excellent article. The endless lies, beginning with the reason for invading Afghanistan after 9/11 have produced an outcome that was foreseen by anyone with a knowledge of history and the fate of the Vietnam war. Many comparisons have been made about the similarity of the helicopter rescues in Saigon in 1975 and those in Afghanistan today. And rightly so. Another imperialist war based on lies and continued through more lies bringing disaster to the country invaded and the deaths of millions of people and the laying waste of whole societies. The warmongers of the U.S. military, propped up by the corporations and ruling class who seek to steal resources and nourish demented dreams of world domination, have seen their dream turn to dust–again–along with the countries they have invaded.. It seems that history has taught them nothing. Their lip service, like Biden's speech, to "human rights" rings as hollow as the inside of a mineshaft.
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Austrian school

What made the Austrian school of economics so bankrupt? Where did their critiques comes from? And even though they failed in the end, why is it that they are always brought up despite their bankruptcy?
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Solving a emigration problem

How do you solve a emigration "crisis" like for example in the GDR? Was the wall the right response? Also are they any good books on the Berlin wall on that matter?
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The fall of the Afghan puppet regime: A historic debacle for US imperialism
>The collapse of the Afghan government shatters the myth of American invincibility promoted by the US ruling elite after the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.

"The sudden fall" doesn't seem to touch what we've witnessed in Afghanistan. What have we been doing for two decades. Certainly, not scaring off the Taliban. Maybe we should have left Erik Prince for a lesson in humility.

All the hawks at CNAS should be sent back to school where they can work out their theories on chalkboards and not be allowed to hurt real people.

No more proxy wars and disband the surveillance sector immediately.

Free Julian Assange, get him healthy, and then expand Wikileaks across the globe as the model for the new free press that works for the people in holding the government accountable.

Time for the government to hold the Robber Barons accountable. I read somewhere about a 99% tax on the wealth accumulated during the Pandemic to use to vaccinate the world and begin a global economy that put people and planet first.

The defense budget can be used for education and universal health. The mission going forward is collaboration and social planning.
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Ethical consumption?

It has been said often that there is no ethical consumption under Capitalism. This being said, there seem to be quite a lot of boycotts regardless. Are we to interpret each and all of these boycotts as being futile attempts to reconcile a lack of ethical consumption under Capitalism? Is there reason to participate in boycotts if all consumption under Capitalism is unethical anyway?

Is all consumption equally unethical?
Is there any meaningful difference between purchasing items like clothing or computers brand new vs. used?

I guess these are novice questions. I hope these aren't considered gauche.
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afghan thread 2

previous thread >>431080

People are panicking to leave kabul airport after it was announced no more flights are taking off. Everyone's going to be flooding the US embassy
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Why are you a Communist?

Why are you a Communist?
Did you just want something to identify as?
Did you follow the mainstream narrative of thinking Communism is rebellious and cool?'
Seriously, help enlighten me, you realize everyone thinks you're insane racists, right?
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The Afghanistan Situation

The Taliban just conquered Kunduz, the first major city in Afghanistan.


As by now, they've captured four provincial capitals, the map I post here is from last week and already outdated. Kunduz is gone now, and Herat is about to fall next. It seems like complete victory and collapse of the Afghanistan comprador government is immanent.
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How big of a threat is India really to china in their long term future? They are sitting right on the border and look ready to fight, have nukes but they are kinda poor
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Dare I say... Based DSA?

The DSA is planning to adopt an official political platform document at its (online) national convention this week. I just read their draft platform / program and was very pleasantly surprised, there are some seriously radical demands in there (emphasis mine):


>The Democratic Socialists of America are fighting to win a world organized and governed by and for the vast majority, the working class. We are socialist because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality and non-oppressive relationships…
>In overcoming the old, barbaric order of capitalism, the working class will not only liberate itself from its own shackles, but all of humanity from the parasitic death-drive of capitalism. As capitalism’s climate crisis ravages the whole Earth, the well being of the working class is ultimately aligned with the survival of the whole planet.

<Deepening and Strengthening Democracy

>The American political system was not made to serve the working class. Undemocratic institutions like the Senate and the Electoral College combine with the force of money in politics to make it impossible for the will of the majority to be expressed…
>The nation that holds itself out as the world’s premier democracy is no democracy at all.
<Our Demands:
>* Abolish the Senate and the Electoral College
>* A new political order through a second constitutional convention to write the founding documents of a new socialist democracy

<A Powerful Labor Movement

>As socialists, we see every battle as an opportunity to cohere the class into that force: one that is capable of transforming the relationships of ownership and production,from the current system of exploitation and private accumulation, into a socialized system that serves the common good.
<Our Demands:
>* Social ownership of all major industry and infrastructure
>* Work for all who want it: full employment through a federal jobs guarantee
>* A four-day, 32-hour work week with no reduction in wages or benefits
>* End “at will” employment

<Economic Justice

<Our Demands:
>* Social ownership and democratic control of utilities and key industries including water, gas, electric, telecommunications, media…
>* Nationalize and socialize (through worker and community ownership and control) institutions of monetary policy, insurance, real estate, and finance

<International Solidarity and Immigration Justice

>DSA operates in the heart of a global capitalist empire that has wrought untold suffering on billions of people and the environment. Solidarity with comrades around the globe is essential to undo the bloody effects of endless wars, austerity,colonial exploitation, environmental destruction, stolen land, and other atrocities that make up the legacy of US actions in service of capital.
<Our Demands:
>* Dismantle the U.S. empire
>* Close all US military bases on foreign soil
>* Normalization of relations with Cuba, Iran, Venezuela,and other countries targeted for resisting US imperialism and exercising self-determination over their resources
>* Withdrawal from or full renegotiation of NAFTA and other free trade agreements that erode the ability of workers to realize the benefits of their labor
>* Abolish or withdraw from NATO, the WTO, OAS, and IMF
>* Abolish the FBI, DHS, the NSA, and the CIA and all other “security” agencies


Dare I say… Based DSA?
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What's happening to our comrades in california?
What's happening to our comrades in california?

What's happening to our comrades in california?
What's happening to our comrades in california?
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>"and there was boy in sewer… and he was eating the rat…and the rat was eating the dog…and the dog was eating me…but i was runned away… and it was so bad…"
>"and then the police shoot the dog…and the dog raped the boy…and then the rat shot the police…"
>"and then you have to eated the police…but the dog was eating the rat…"
>"and my grandmother ate the police…and the police turned the dog into lampshade….but the rat raped the police…and now my grandmother is dead inside lampshade dog…."
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Cities shouldnt have and dont need skyscrapers just dig more floors below the surface where theres more space and safety, cities shouldnt have massive roadways, everything should be designed so civilians can get the things they want within walking distance with mass transit being an alternative if destinations are too far away instead of environmentally destructive electric and nonelectric cars, cars and industrial equipment should have mandatory sound mufflers installed on them because they produce most of the annoying ass noises that comes in living in cities and towns that causes civilians to go fucking deaf, for fucks sake cigarettes and garbage shouldnt be fucking everywhere just dig a fucking hole and store everyone's garbage in it and recycle that hole of trash everyonce in a while instead of dumping it on shorelines in water supplies in the oceans or worst of all do nothing about the filth and let the public contract diseases from being near that fucking pollution, we dont need to constantly be expanding cities when already built infrastructure can just be reused and repurposed if no ones using it. Holy shit why the fuck is every urban planner all around the planet wether in china cuba america britain whatever so fucking bad at not making cities arbitrarily inconvenient to live in, these are solutions that cost if not actively give governments and developers millions that would drastically improve the lives of billions around the planet my fucking christ
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Class struggle watershed

Forty years since the PATCO strike: Part one
>With PATCO, history exposed as unviable and bankrupt a labor movement that based itself on anti-communism, defense of the profit system and nationalism.

"The coverage and the interviews contained in the Bulletin provide what is by far the most significant and detailed chronicle of the PATCO strike. It is impossible to understand the struggle, or its outcome, without this archive."

I would love to see this archive! The archive as presented on marxists.org stops at 1974!
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US troops return to Afghanistan as regime disintegrates
>The overrunning of nearly every city save Kabul has laid bare the abject failure of the US intervention after 20 years of war and hundreds of thousands of deaths.

You do wonder how many people are being slaughtered by b-52 bombers and c-130 gunships(in addition to drone killings). They are understood to be murdering the 'enemy'(poor people dragged this way and that). As in Iraq we will never know how many have been murdered by these airstrikes.
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Last threads:
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George Soros attacks Xi Jinping in WSJ toxay


>Xi’s Dictatorship Threatens the Chinese State

>In his quest for personal power, he’s rejected Deng Xiaoping’s economic reform path and turned the Communist Party into an assemblage of yes-men.
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The indigenous debunk Maupin's video

This has to be the worst video by a self-described "leftist" I've ever seen. Has Maupin not picked up an anthropology book? He argues that you can't have a stateless, classless society without an excessive amount of wealth. However, the mere existence of indigenous societies alone debunks this.

Most indigenous groups were "poor" by our standards in that they lived off the bare minimum. However, very few of their tribes had anything close to organized or standardized hierarchies. The Navajo, for instance, have no word for "chief" or "ruler" pre-colonization. The indigenous were able to maintain their egalitarian social structures not because they had so much wealth but because their traditions emphasized humility and dignity and also preservation of the earth.

Maupin's understand of socialism as being about "vast material abundance" is not only dangerous (due to the climate situation) but also highly outdated given what anthropologists have known about indigenous societies for decades. It would do him some good to read something by David Graeber (RIP).
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Seriously, did this country collectively get cursed or something?
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predictions of the future

what do you see happening in the near future and how do you think it'll happen ? do you think we'll be falling into reaction or are we headed to a new era one of socialism and liberation ?
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Webms that fit the 4Chan File Size Limit

I can't help but notice that, although there is always something posted in /webm/, that it's always .mp4 or bigger than 4 mb.
This is a shame, as these videos can't be shared on places like /gif/ or /wsg/.
Therefore i'm dropping every .webm i have which also falls under the 4mb limit, many of them have been converted by me personally.

All of these webms can therefore be reuploaded to 4chungus.
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US being returned to the Natives

If the United States do fall in the coming years, what would the subsequent state look like? Will the Whites keep ruling over the same piece of land in the subsequent years? Or would it be returned to the Natives, effectively ending the nearly-300-year White man rule?
Would China and Russia appreciate their rule? Would America return as a superpower, but under Native rule, effectively starting a tripolar (max. pentapolar) world? And would Navajo become an international language?
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>i…i fought to protect your family and this nation anon. Can you please at least spare a couple of dollars for me?

what do you do in this situation?
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America's motives for war is simple: profit

I've been thinking about this yesterday and decided to post the main reasons America put themselves into war:
- To encourage fellow allies to fight for the war, which means that they can sell more weapons and missiles under the pretext of "combatting (insert America's enemy here)". Therefore, the Americans and other private weapons suppliers can profit off them.
- To install a pro-US leader. That can also mean huge profits. For American corporates, that market is easily targettable. For American investors, it is a greenlight for them to exploit the country; also for huge profits. For the government, they can easily collude with the investors so as to gain personal wealth.
- To enocurage fellow pro-US regimes to do the same. When they (proxies) fight wars with capitalism's adversaries they can easily get huge sums of money from America, and when the war's done, they could easily open markets on the country, exploit its resources, and divide those profits 50-50 between them and America.
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The Power of Marketing

Apogee just announced their Duet 3. It is functionally identical to the $109 Behringer UMC204HD, yet the duet will sell for $600 (and many will also buy the additional $149 dock). How can the rate of profit ever reach 0 if porky can just keep making record profits through marketing?
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A prediction on the global labour force and age demographics

Simply put it people around the world will continue to have less kids and work more, but they will not die nor retire but rather keep aging and continuing to work, if your below the age of 49(which is considered young by today's standards) your going to live to see healthcare tech accelerate to the point where your health or even lifespan can be extended on top of that its already been shown that the human body can be resilient enough to withstand or even come fully recover from the effects of old age simply with exercise and healthy eating consistently. In the future there will only be more and more work, there wont be a people shortage as globalists wont allow the labour force to ever shrink to a point where profit margins thin out. If your in your 20s now expect to be working decades longer than what your parents worked through to retire
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What can you guys tell me about Pol Pot? I have literally zero knowledge of him. Haven't even read the Wikipedia. No one idea what he did or what his country was like
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Should we really help newfags?

Related to >>426453

Should we really help newfags? If so, how can we help them (which are mostly normies), considering that there are large numbers of them visiting Leftypol recently? (source: >>426026)

Protip: Never discriminate them.

In my opinion, we should actually help them. This in turn would give birth to a new generation of Leftypol users, continuing us once we were all retired (in this board). They could all become leftists, which would fuel the global leftist movement once those newfags become veterans. And by helping newfags we could actually indirectly BTFO the white Americunt cuntpitalist global order, because by deprogramming them and redpilling them more we can actually make them lose faith in American ideals (newfags are mostly into them). Then they would spread these ideas on mainstream social media (Twitter and Instagram, Reddit included too).
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My worldview of porkies changed due to social media

I dont think any of the inefficiencies of capitalism exist because of the system, I think most capitalists are generally just shitty people overall that would've behaved the same way they are now even if a ML state was established today because when you look into their lifestyle habits and how they got into their positions and how they behave online you get a better sense of which capitalists actually earned their wealth versus the majority of bourgeois that were just idiots that got lucky and scammed others to get wealthy with elon musk and Bill Gates being prime examples as both men have 0 proper credentials for engineering nor invented anything but stole others tech
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What can we do to create agitprop and spark more division among democrat ranks with afghanistan disaster?

This is a pivotal moment that the microscope MUST be placed on bidens decisions making to hurt his appeal and grow our views.

Discuss ideas.
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colonialism and Post colonialism

Can you explain me why some "comrades" have an understanding of colonialism that has more to do with Gnosticism than Materialism?
Why colonialism has become the original sin ?
I often here even smart fellows end up in the rabbit hole with some spooky shit on "muh ancestors" "muh white people" "muh post colonial identity".
Why is colonialism worse than say slaves societies which non european countries had?
Every system (feudal, clan, slave ecc.) Has been imposed through conquering, war, competition, capitalism did the same. Colonialism is a consequence of capitalism.
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Traditionalist Communism

Bros, I'm a bit confused.

On the one hand, I want a socialist society that provides for the needs of the people, makes investments into the nation, and guides the commanding heights of the economy in a planned way. A society where the collective is more important than the individual, where people strive for something higher than self-indulgence and money.

But on the other hand, I absolutely despise contemporary art, architecture, and all of the ugliness of our modern world. Every Western city is full of litter, graffiti, shit, and filth. Every new building is hideous, and nothing beautiful is ever made. Everyone lives materialist, hedonistic, selfish lives and the cult of individualism has consumed everything.

Material conditions and 40 years of neoliberalism aside, I think one of the reasons for the West's apparent decline stems from our loss of tradition. In every aspect of society, whether religion or social relations, tradition has completely broken down. Shared traditions are what binds a people together, and almost every single one has been shattered either deliberately - often by the left, or as a byproduct of capitalism.

So am I even a communist, or am I just a left-wing fascist?

In either case, the working classes seem to prefer patriotism, religion, and national traditions in some form to the Avant-garde intellectualism of the left.
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What do you make of this? Over 50% of "white alone" Hispanics in the USA began identifying as "two or more races"

This led to a drop of white alone Hispanic population from 26 million to 12 million in usa from 2010 to 2020
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How the left enabled fascism

The leader of the left, adored for his “authenticity” and destined for cult status, saw himself as a fighter for radical change. His transformed party was the biggest of its kind in Europe, and bursting with youthful vigour.

On the other side of the political spectrum lay the far right and its sinisterly absurd demagogues, thugs and ideological lunacies. Naturally, the leader of the left regarded these people with contempt and viewed his party as the only authentic resistance to them. For strategic reasons, however, he was willing to help them achieve a key part of their dream, which he shared. The dream was to break the loathsome old liberal order. Such a break, reasoned the leader, would create conditions under which the left would sweep to power and transform the country for the better.

Any similarities to Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party are far from coincidental. But the leader in question is Ernst Thälmann, chief of the German Communist Party (KPD) in the final years of the Weimar Republic. Thälmann is a tragic and disastrous figure. Dogmatic, passionate, stubborn and stupid, the former Hamburg dockworker divided the left and became one of the right’s first victims. Within weeks of Hitler’s takeover in 1933, he, along with thousands of other communists, was arrested and tortured. Unlike many of them, he survived in prison for 11 years before being murdered on Hitler’s orders in 1944.

After the war, the leaders of Communist East Germany built a personality cult around Thälmann, erecting statues and naming streets, a Berlin park and a metro station after him. The cult depicted him as the bravest and noblest of working-class heroes, Germany’s supreme anti-fascist martyr. That he had also been one of the Nazi regime’s unwitting enablers was erased.

History never repeats itself exactly, and there are obvious and big differences between conditions and politics in Britain now and those of Germany in the run-up to the Nazi dictatorship. But there are a few uncomfortable parallels.

For one thing, even our relatively mild versions of far left and far right seek momentous change – in this case a destructive Brexit – for ideological reasons. For another, the far left’s current mindset is reminiscent of one that had unintended consequences – and is doing so again.

In the 1930s, fear of Bolshevism persuaded many middle-class Germans to support Hitler (and led the Catholic Church to throw in its lot with fascism in Italy, Spain and elsewhere). These days, fear of Corbyn buttresses the worst Tory government in living memory. Worse, although we again face danger from the far right, the far left refuses to work with potential allies in the centre and centre left. Again. Instead, it spends much of its energy attacking them. The obsessive hatred for “Blairites”, “red Tories” and “centrists” is reminiscent of the KPD’s hatred of “social fascists” during the years when Nazism could have been stopped. If the phrase is new to you, you’d be forgiven for thinking it signified some form of fascism. It didn’t. “Social fascism” was the communist term for social democrats – and it helped pave the way to catastrophe.

In the words of Theodore Draper, the American former communist fellow traveller who turned against the party and became a historian, “the so-called theory of social fascism and the practice based on it constituted one of the chief factors contributing to the victory of German fascism in January 1933”.

The theory, developed in the early 1920s, favoured by Stalin and established as Communist orthodoxy by 1928, held that reformist social democracy was the worst enemy of the proletariat – worse than fascism – because it created false consciousness and made revolution, the party’s overriding goal, less likely. This notion derived from the left’s misunderstanding of the dark forces about to overwhelm it.

Thälmann and the KPD regarded fascists and Nazis as products and tools of capitalism. Since social democrats were also capitalists, it followed that social democracy, fascism and Nazism were simply different facets of the same oppression. To further the dream of a Soviet Germany, the party was willing to help the Nazis destroy democracy, thinking it could beat the Nazis easily in the aftermath.

Unlike the modern Labour left, the KPD’s antipathy to their centre-left rivals derived in part from memories of a recent crime against them. In January 1919, after Germany’s defeat in the First World War and the fall of the Kaiser, the new Social Democratic Party (SPD) government led by Friedrich Ebert used the far-right Freikorps militias to help suppress the Spartacist uprising, led by KPD founders Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht. In the process, Freikorps men tortured and murdered Luxemburg and Liebknecht.

In the first part of his Hitler biography, Hitler, 1889-1936: Hubris, Ian Kershaw describes these killings as “the symbolic sealing of the rift within the working-class movement that throughout the Weimar Republic prevented any united front being formed against the growing threat of National Socialism”. By the late 1920s, though, the KPD had largely purged itself of Spartacists and become a Stalinist party. Thälmann took his instructions from Stalin and his hatred of the SPD was essentially ideological.

With hindsight, his relaxed attitude to the threat of Hitler seems astonishingly foolish. For example, as Russel Lemmons shows in his 2013 book about Thälmann, Hitler’s Rival, when the Nazis made their electoral breakthrough in the Reichstag elections of 1930 (winning 18 per cent of the vote to become the second-largest party) Thälmann insisted that if Hitler came to power he was sure to fail and this would drive Nazi voters into the arms of the KPD.

Foreshadowing the 2017 claim that Labour actually won the general election it lost, the KPD newspaper the Red Flag even hailed the KPD’s defeat in that election (up by 2.5 per cent to 13.1 per cent) as a victory on the grounds that communist voters were ardent revolutionaries (“one communist vote has more weight than ten to 20 national socialist votes combined”). The 1930 election left the Social Democrats and KPD with almost 40 per cent of the seats in the Reichstag between them. In November 1931 the SPD suggested the two parties work together but Thälmann rejected the offer and the Red Flag called for an “intensification of the fight against Social Democracy”.

Along the way Thälmann made any number of tactical blunders. In 1925, for example, against the advice of Bolshevik leader Grigory Zinoviev, the KPD leadership refused to stand Thälmann down in the second round of the German presidential election. This split took enough votes away from centre candidate Wilhelm Marx to give the First World War general Paul von Hindenburg a narrow victory. In 1933, Hindenburg appointed Hitler as chancellor, then signed the decrees enabling the Nazi terror against the left after the Reichstag fire.

As the Nazi menace intensified in the early 1930s, Thälmann continued to be sanguine. As late as February 1932, he was arguing that “Hitler must come to power first, then the requirements for a revolutionary crisis [will] arrive more quickly”. In November 1932, just three months before Hitler’s takeover, the KPD and Nazis even worked together in the Berlin transport workers’ strike.


Is it fair to speak of this in the same breath as Corbyn’s de facto alliance with the right on Brexit? The stakes are less high, and the specifics are so different it’s hard to compare.

Corbyn’s lack of enthusiastic campaigning may have hampered Remain in the referendum. He has made a damaging Brexit more likely by failing to oppose it, and by whipping his MPs to abstain or vote with the government at key moments since 2016. But this isn’t the same as seeking a Soviet Britain, or enabling Hitler. Corbyn isn’t trying to end democracy, or co-operating with Nazis, or taking orders from Stalin. He hasn’t even created a party paramilitary wing.

The Labour left’s assault on the liberal centre is driven by a quite different political agenda to that of the KPD. But it runs a similar risk of hollowing out the political constituency best capable of resisting the radicalism of the right.

History teaches us that it is dangerous and naive to expect only the radical left to benefit politically from the kind of economic chaos and social upheaval a hard or no-deal Brexit would bring.

Thälmann was at least open about his objectives. Corbyn rarely explains his strategy, and even talks blithely about a “jobs-first Brexit” while backing a course liable to wreck the regions, damage the NHS and blight the future of the young.

Thälmann’s approach was also contradictory and ambivalent. On one hand, his Communist militias fought bloody and often lethal turf battles with Nazi stormtroopers and police. On the other, he refused to provide effective political opposition to the Nazis. There were some half-hearted attempts to work with SPD rank and file, but Thälmann never stopped regarding the SPD leadership as anathema and refused to co-operate with them in any significant way until it was far too late.

Only in February 1933, by which time the battle was already lost, did Thälmann finally grasp the situation and propose a united front with the SPD and the free and Christian trade unions – under his own leadership, of course – to prepare for a general strike to bring down the new regime.

When the Nazis started rounding up leftists, Thälmann escaped but his hiding place on the Kaiserallee (now Bundesallee) in Berlin was revealed by a tortured comrade and Thälmann was arrested on 3 March and taken to prison. In 1939, Stalin could easily have had Thälmann released as a condition of the Nazi-Soviet Pact, but he didn’t say a word. In August 1944 Hitler ordered Thälmann “liquidated”. SS officers drove him to Buchenwald, shot him in the courtyard of the camp crematorium and burned his body immediately.

Lemmons argues that Thälmann “went to his grave believing that the SPD represented the forces of ‘social fascism’ and was no better than Hitler’s party”. That, and his subservience to Stalin, meant Thälmann “failed his people in its greatest hour of need”. The KPD did “nothing to stop the Nazi seizure of power – indeed they had welcomed it as what they considered to be the dying breath of German imperialism”.

Even if the worst Brexit predictions come true Jeremy Corbyn is unlikely to suffer so terrible a fate. But if a disastrous Brexit does occur, the verdict of history is unlikely to be much kinder.

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Pigs and Criminals

What do we do about the PQ (police question) and the CQ (criminal question)? What is the proper stance on policing and crime of a leftist in a capitalist society, and what would policing look like, if anything, under socialism/communism?

Would prisons be abolished? Are we in favor of "defunding the police?"
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Shoplifting as revolutionary praxis

Consider: shoplifting (and reselling the stolen goods) is the purest form of praxis that material conditions in the west allow.

1) It hurts the firm's ability to turn a profit. They will be forced to attempt to clamp down. They will do this by hostile monitoring of their customers, paying their workers less, resorting to more aggressive of saving money in general.

2) Reselling the stolen goods to fellow proles is a method of surplus distribution that is free from parliamentary bullshit and fetishes. Reselling stolen goods is class consciousness realized.

3) Followed on from 2): this reselling allows you (the thief) to reproduce yourself while harming capital. The more people that do this, the more capital is hurt and the business becomes unsustainable, the contradictions grow, and…
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Anti Communist Reading List

I've been looking for anti communist books to dunk on them. In particular im looking for a pdf of "Witness" by Whittaker Chambers, "Radical Son" by David Horowitz, Sowell's book on Marxism, and Kolakowski's works on Marxism. I can't seem to find any of them in pdf form anywhere, and I sure as hell ain't paying for them.

Supposedly "Witness" was Reagan's favorite book and converted him from a liberal to a conservative or something.
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Stepford People

I am doing a USA tour and the most striking thing is all the fakeness in people's behaviour. Fake smiles, fake kindness, fake attitude in general. Everyone looks like the women from that story Stepford wives, only itnis everybody. How is USA society still function on so many layers of pretend? Isn't almost everyone mentally ill due to all this acting all the time?
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>Tucker Carlson trip to Hungary to promote its populist leader took an awkward turn when a transcript of his interview was censored by the Hungarian government.

>Carlson spent the week filming his Fox News show from Budapest, where he interviewed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, toured a border fence built to keep out migrants, and spoke at an event funded by the Orban government.

>The Fox News host also touted Hungary, under Orban’s illiberal rule, as a “freer” place than the United States.

>Carlson’s characterization of Hungary and its ruler was put to the test on Friday when all mention of Chinese leader Xi Jinping was scrubbed from a transcript of the Carlson-Orban interview that was sent to reporters.

>During the interview, Carlson lamented to Orban that U.S. President Joe Biden has never referred to Xi as a “totalitarian thug” despite the fact that he has “murdered many of his political opponents.”

>New York Times reporter Benjamin Novak noticed that Carlson’s criticism of Xi was cut from a transcript sent to reporters by Hungarian officials.

>Politico Europe’s Playbook newsletter reported that after Novak’s tweet, officials sent out a full transcript of the interview.

>Orban has pushed Hungary towards closer ties with China, seeking out loans from Beijing for projects including a railway to Belgrade and a campus of a Shanghai university in Budapest. In recent months, Hungary twice blocked an EU statement condemning China’s crackdown on democracy in Hong Kong.

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should they just ask the Europeans to re-govern the country as a mandate since they are unable to?
ok jokes aside, what's leftypol's solution for this country? how can you deal with all the sectarianism?
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Thoughts on censorship?

What do you guys think about censorship? Particularly those done by seemingly "authoritarian" regimes like China and North Korea and to a lesser extent Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Russia? Are they beneficial? Does that enhance a country's online security? Or is it something that bis more like taking the bluepill by the fact that you can't access to different viewpoints, instead just seeing the same "I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG" mentality by the government?
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Slummification (in the US)

I'm noticing a trend in my city, similar to or a type of gentrification.Sorry if this is schizo sentimental posting.

A local theater, which was responsible for our annual (and very class-conscious) Mayday parade as well as having avant-garde or unconventional productions, is "decentralizing" and so selling their theater space (including puppet storage, workspace, etc).

What happens next, as I've seen happen over and over before, is it will get demolished and replaced with some hideous "multi-use facility" which means unaffordable and unoccupied apartments above some empty storefronts and maybe a tobacco or burner mobile phone store (picrel).

So, this is sort of the inverse of what I've seen on the other end of town. Both my area (south) and the warehouse district were originally very bohemian sorts of places. But the warehouses have all been retrofitted with yuppie interiors and people living a parody of impoverished outsider life while the people that attracted them were forced out, and the equitable art spaces were replaced with high-rent studios.

My area is pretty class-conscious, there's a Communist bookstore nearby and an anarchist one, as well as some bike/cafe/bookstore coops. And whenever I see new construction go up, it's certainly not appealing to the richer crowds that were drawn to northeast. I don't know who exactly lives there, the buildings are all cut-and-paste of the same eyesore, are overpriced, and always have very sleazy businesses below. It sure as hell isn't the "hipster" or yuppie gentrifier demographic.

What's the purpose of this kind of slummification? Part of feels like it's simply to homogenize areas and remove any kind of community. Divided communities are weaker communities. Instead, they're able to make it more car- and commuter-centric.Most of these buildings are half-empty years after being built so I don't buy the arument that they are to serve a growing population. Not only that but we have an ever-increasing amount of homeless people scattered in encampments citywide, (but mostly in South where I live)

Is this happening across the country, or in your country too?

I'd like to add, what makes this kind of a schizo post, is that this particular spot was a community anchor and I sort of projected everything I liked about the city when I first moved here about ten years ago: unconventional, Bohemians, class politics, art space, community. So it's very disheartening to me to see these aspects die, or leave, while I get left behind.
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[Global times] Hungarian PM Orban exposes US' ideological radicalism

>Fox News television host Tucker Carlson recently interviewed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. The Central European leader was given his first-ever chance to inform Americans en masse of their present government's ideological radicalism and explain why it arguably goes against the US' national interests in the region.

>Orban even hinted that the US is meddling in Hungary's democratic processes, but expressed hope that the "Americans will realize that issues in Hungary must be decided by the Hungarians".

>None of this should be shocking to those who closely follow regional events. But the vast majority of the American people were probably very surprised to hear this. The Hungarian leader lamented that, "if you would have asked me several years ago whether could it happen that the ex-communist political forces and the anti-Semite right is forming a coalition and running together in the election against a pro-Israeli and pro-American, pro-NATO Western-oriented government as we have, as we are? My answer would have been no, it's impossible."

>Yet that's exactly what's happening right now. This rolling regime change campaign is already moving ahead of the country's elections early next year. It is being driven by ideological reasons instead of the geopolitical ones that usually motivate such foreign meddlers.

>As Orban explained, his country is very proudly pro-Israeli, pro-American, pro-NATO, and Western-oriented, which would otherwise check all the boxes with respect to being a reliable US ally. The problem, however, is that the Western elite - most recently the American one following President Biden's election - is now largely comprised of ideological radicals.

>As Orban described it, many of them want to build "a new society, which is a post-Christian, post-national society." This stands in contrast to the Hungarian one that is "based on traditional values, on national identity, based on tradition of Christianity." He believes that the reason why his government is targeted for regime change is because "the Western liberals cannot accept that inside the Western civilization, there's a conservative national alternative which is more successful at everyday life at the level of them than the liberal ones." It's perhaps because of this perception that motivated President Biden to characterize Prime Minister Orban as a "totalitarian thug."

>That remark was made during the campaign trail. Yet it revealed just how much the current US president detests the Hungarian leader. In his defense, Orban very politely explained that President Biden doesn't know much about Hungary. This is a pity because, he said, "the bilateral relationship with the Americans is basically very good. We are cooperating well on the field of defense as NATO allies, economic cooperation is excellent. You are big investors here. Trade is going very well. Your businessman is finding a lot of possibilities here, so everything is fine, except the politics when the liberals are in government in Washington. That's the problem."

>Orban's interview should pique the curiosity of all observers. This loyal American ally firmly believes in retaining excellent economic and military ties with Washington, but also wants to preserve his country's socio-political sovereignty. Regrettably, radical Western ideologues - including those who are responsible for formulating policy in the Biden administration - are obsessed with toppling him for that reason. They are even going so far as to tacitly legitimize the antisemitic members of the opposition in pursuit of that end. This observation proves that even allied countries that don't submit to the US' ideology will be punished.

>In other words, Washington doesn't truly have any "allies" since it won't even treat its "fellow" NATO "partners" like Hungary as equals. Washington aspires to only have vassals who unquestionably comply with all of its decrees; especially its ideological ones. By definition, this is a totalitarian policy. It is aggressively promoting regime change in a foreign country. The Hungarian case study is therefore very important because: it shows the world how unreliable the US really is as an "ally".


The Global Times (simplified Chinese: 环球时报; traditional Chinese: 環球時報; pinyin: Huánqiú Shíbào) is a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party's flagship People's Daily newspaper, commenting on international issues from a nationalistic perspective.

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The Left Case against Open Borders


>In November 2018, American Affairs published Nagle's essay ”The Left Case against Open Borders.”[14]

>Writing in The Independent, Slavoj Žižek referred to the “ferocious attacks on Angela Nagle for her outstanding essay."[

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/yellow-vest-protests-france-paris-gilets-jaunes-macron-fuel-tax-minimum-wage-populism-a8686586.html (zizek defending essay)
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It seems as if people view communists as unlikable, and redscarepod is the id of the alt-left, and even they think that we're unlikable. Are we unlikable or what? I think it's kind of 50/50 to be honest, we should strive to be nicer people IMO. I am viewed as an asshole and most people know of my stances on politics, there is a general tendency of the left to be kind of not looked at great for a wide variety of reasons, do we have an optics problem?
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Why didn't the USA and the USSR end up cooperating more on projects like picrel? If it's because muh cold war, why did they bother to cooperate at all?
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Is the American left even all that terrible? I mean I Get the hate on for radlibs and shit but is the US left that irredeemable? Especially if they come from "PMC" backgrounds or whatever the fuck? I kind of lost my drive to keep visiting stupidpol because it always just seems like it's kvetching about shit that I don't care about but then I come here and it's kind of the same way.
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China puts curbs on GAMERS: how could they do such a thing?

China’s Tencent imposes controls to tackle gaming addiction among children

>Tencent has announced new restrictions on how long minors can play its online games after the Chinese internet group came under intense pressure from state media, which labelled gaming as “spiritual opium”.

>In a social media post, the company said it was introducing the measures after “relevant authorities” requested greater protection of minors in gaming and for companies to carry out their “societal responsibility”.

>Shares in Tencent, whose online games business generated Rmb39.1bn ($6bn) in the first quarter and accounted for 30 per cent of its total revenues, fell as much as 10.8 per cent in Hong Kong before paring losses to close down 6.6 per cent.
>That left the stock down almost a quarter in the past month. The company’s market value has shed $400bn from its January peak.
>The renewed volatility came after China’s tech stocks notched their worst month since the global financial crisis in July following an unprecedented regulatory campaign against tech sectors including education, ride-hailing and social media.

>Tencent’s new restrictions, which will initially apply only to its flagship title Honor of Kings, will further reduce the duration that minors are allowed to spend gaming each day from 1.5 hours to 1 hour normally and from 3 hours to 2 hours on holidays. The company will prohibit anyone under the age of 12 from in-game spending and clamp down on minors playing on adult accounts.

>Tencent also raised three proposals for the entire industry including strengthening systems to tackle gaming addiction and called for consideration of a complete ban for those younger than 12.

>The announcement from the Chinese internet giant came after an article in the Economic Information Daily newspaper, which is run by state news agency Xinhua, said online video games had grown into “spiritual opium worth hundreds of billions”. One expert warned that “no industry . . . can develop in a way that destroys a generation”.

>The article published on Tuesday morning did not mention Tencent by name but complained of widespread internet addiction among China’s youth. It quoted unnamed students as saying that some of their classmates spent as many as eight hours a day on Honor of Kings and warned that this “new type of electronic drug” was “advancing by leaps and bounds”. By the afternoon, the paper had deleted the article.
>The historically charged comparison, likening Chinese video game makers to the foreign opium peddlers whose trade contributed to the disintegration of imperial China, pummelled Tencent’s shares even though minors contributed only 6 per cent of its China gaming revenue in the final quarter of last year.

>A person close to the situation said the article had been intended to “test the waters” and may have been more extreme than regulators’ stance, prompting its removal.

>But Li Chengdong of tech-focused think-tank Haitun said Tencent had to react quickly as the article could represent the viewpoint of some officials. “The internet industry is under fire and companies are nervous,” Li said.

>Gaming peers NetEase and XD finished Tuesday’s session down about 8 per cent each. China’s video games market was worth $43.1bn in 2020, according to Niko Partners, a research firm and consultancy.

>The pressure on Tencent came on the heels of guidance published on Monday evening by the Chinese Communist party’s propaganda department and other regulators targeting rival tech group ByteDance.

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How Would an Anarchist Military Function?

How would an Anarchist society raise an army, supply the army, and conduct military action, without creating a State in the process? I've read some pieces on the topic, and of the answers that display a meaningful understanding of the necessities of war, they always result in describing something that is a strict, hierarchical chain of command.
What I fail to understand is how this does not constitute a coercive State entity. Could some Anarchists enlighten me on how an Anarchist society would wage war without creating a State?
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Is it possible for them to unify into a single country. If so how?
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I find russias police force interesting

Russia is simultaneously one of the most violent and over policed countries on the planet, that sounds like an oxymoron yet when one looks into this situation it actually makes alot of sense. The thing about russia is interactions with the police dont end in arrests but often with someone getting flat out killed or severely injured, what ends up happening is actual criminals in russia arent incentivized to carry the mentality of "run from the cops" but rather "kill them" out of a legitimate need to survive, this mentality attracts some of the worst type of criminals you can think of in russia and suddenly your hearing reports of atrocities like the beslan school siege, gun shop and police station raids ending with IED explosions and molotovs everywhere, repeated mass killings in the form of mass shootings bombings and stabbings along with mexican cartel scaled criminal organizations like the illicit trade of guns and alchohals like vodka in the russian mafia. All this violence creates a situation where russias security and military budget needs to be constantly expanding to keep up with the violence and ultimately Russian police squads need to be armed with altyn helmets and tanks to perform tasks like home raids simply out of legitimate fear of getting killed by criminals being that murders against police is a prevalent problem that's been apart of russias history for decades now, especially in the 90s where it's violence was at its worst, all I can say about russias police force is it's a good platform to see what not and should be done when it comes to law enforcement and that there needs to be drastically better methods taken to reduce the violence in russia because if homicide rates increase any further that countries on the risk of mass riots that could leave thousands dead or civil war
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You socialist did it! Defunding the police worked!


It’s last call in Chinatown, and a crowd spills out of Shake Bar onto Northwest Couch Street—about 200 people stumbling, some looking for electric scooters, women barefoot and carrying their high heels.

The clubgoers are met by a heavily armed guard. He stands beneath the Hung Far Low sign, clad in a bulletproof vest and desert-tan tactical pants, with a 9 mm pistol strapped to his leg and an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder.

His name is Jean-Pierre LaFont. He’s a 45-year-old veteran who lives in Gresham. He says he did a tour of duty in Bosnia with the Navy SEALS. He’s 6 feet tall, wears black gloves outlined with white bones, and is delighted to talk about his work.

“My job is to get you home safe,” he says. “Unless you’re the perpetrator. The only way for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing. So I’m going to do something.”

LaFont works for Ravencrest Force Protection Group. On the job, he goes by “Reaper.” His boss is codenamed “Ghost.” Their Northeast Portland firm bills itself as a private military contractor—the kind of firm that operates in war zones.

Their latest assignment: deployment to one block of Portland’s Old Town.

After a June shooting in the club’s doorway, Shake’s owners hired Ravencrest to secure not only the bar, but the length of Couch Street between 3rd and 4th Avenues.

Nearly two months later, LaFont patrols this street every Friday and Saturday night, trying to prevent the latest killing in what he describes as a gang war.

He finds the work gratifying. “I’d rather die with my boots on,” LaFont says, “than die in an old folks’ home hearing Christmas carols sung by Boy Scouts.”

Ravencrest is one of at least three companies with armed guards patrolling Old Town’s club scene.

Downtown Portland was defined last summer by squadrons of uniformed men equipped with tear gas and guns—federal agents, as well as police officers, sent to quell Portland’s racial justice protests.

This summer, armed men have returned to the downtown core, but for a different reason: to keep parties from turning into shootouts.

Their presence marks the confluence of club owners’ desire to reopen for business despite City Hall’s floundering attempts to grapple with the social upheaval that upended Portland after George Floyd’s murder in Minneapolis sparked months of protests and nationwide demands to defund police.

One of the results: a Portland Police Bureau that says it’s about 120 officers slimmer, bolstering demand for private security companies like Ravencrest.
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The Co-Founder Of The Fact-Checking Site Snopes Was Writing Plagiarized Articles Under A Fake Name


David Mikkelson, the co-founder of the fact-checking website Snopes, has long presented himself as the arbiter of truth online, a bulwark in the fight against rumors and fake news. But he has been lying to the site's tens of millions of readers: A BuzzFeed News investigation has found that between 2015 and 2019, Mikkelson wrote and published dozens of articles containing material plagiarized from news outlets such as the Guardian and the LA Times.

After inquiries from BuzzFeed News, Snopes conducted an internal review and confirmed that under a pseudonym, the Snopes byline, and his own name, Mikkelson wrote and published 54 articles with plagiarized material. The articles include such topics as same-sex marriage licenses and the death of musician David Bowie.

Snopes VP of Editorial and Managing Editor Doreen Marchionni suspended Mikkelson from editorial duties pending “a comprehensive internal investigation.” He remains an officer and a 50% shareholder of the company.
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blue-collar vs whie collar

Which is more exploitative to the worker?

The labor theory of value argues that the value of a commodity. Most commodities are products that come from the earth that possess is determined by the average amount of time needed to produce the commodity.
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Secret Societies

Is is possible for a secret society to pull off a coup and implement communism that way? I'm sure there are 20th century examples of this happening in the third world.
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Can leftists stop being so retarded and open a book?

You guys are so ignorant about every aspect of Muslim world politics it's insane. There are people here that actually support the Islamic Republic of Iran and support think the French teacher who was beheaded by a terrorist was Islamophobic and deserved it. Jesus H. Criminy…

Al-Shabaab is an extremist terrorist group—with links to Al-Qaeda and Boko Haram—that is terrorizing the Somali people (killing over 3,000 innocent Somali civilians in the past 5 years) in an attempt to overthrow Somalia's legitimate government.

Somalia's military is weak (GFP ranks it 137th out of 140 countries in terms of military strength), so it was happy to coordinate strikes on Al-Shabaab with the US.

After each strike, Somalia has posted a press release applauding the strikes and reporting 0 civilian casualties.

One could argue that the strikes should have been authorized by Congress or that the US should ignore the suffering of other nations and just focus on taking care of its own people.

But I don't understand how one can possibly argue what the Gravel Institute and its fans are saying.
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Ok, so, from all the porkies from the world, who's the porkyest of them all?
And who's the porkiest of them all from your country?
Let's see how your countries porkies compete against other countries porkies on their porkyness
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What do you think about Friedman video about immigration?

It's 8 minutes long pretty short.

It's not a overly interesting video or anything earth shattering but he discusses differences in approval of illegal and legal immigration and why he thinks people look at in such a way. This isn't an endorsement of him obviously but he frames the immigration argument in some ways I haven't thought about it previously and gives something to ponder.


I'd like to hear what you guys think
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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Capitalist Conquest of Space

Now that Elon Musk's SpaceX, a private company, is about to massproduce fully and rapidly reusable and cheap superheavy rockets in the next year or two, Earth's Orbit and even outer Space is about to completely open up for business, how will this influence geopolitics and the material conditions here on earth?
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News 8/13/21

24 civilians including a newborn abducted, 20 homes demolished in Afrin in two days
In Afrin, which has been under Turkish occupation since March 2018, a terror and gang regime has been installed. Kidnapping, execution, torture, looting, and forced displacement have become widespread in the city, which has methodically transformed into a hotbed of war crimes.

Gaza businesses stand on shattered ground months after Israel attacks
“We never expected that the Industrial City would be targeted, because it is supposed to be protected under the establishment agreements, but the reality was shocking,” al-Seksek said. “Our factory’s losses alone amounted to $1.2m, most of the stock and a large part of the machinery were completely destroyed. Now even if we were to be compensated for the losses, we would need at least two years to be able to operate normally again.”

Palestinian journalists face increased oppression as PA violations exceed those of Israel for first time
The Palestinian Centre for Development and Media Freedoms (MADA) said that a crackdown by President Mahmoud Abbas saw violations committed by the PA against media workers exceed those of Israel for the first time. It described the development as “shocking and dangerous” with reporters facing a wave of serious attacks and restrictions on press freedom in the occupied territories.

Thai protestors clash with police as demonstrators call for resignation of prime minister
Friday’s protests were part of a chain of demonstrations that rocked Bangkok this week. On Wednesday, activists rallied in the capital, but their efforts were squashed early by police after mass demonstrations on the previous day resulted in the injury of six police officers and several arrests. Similar clashes broke out on Saturday between authorities and activists who called for the prime minister to leave office.

India: Chhattisgarh conducts survey to map Maoist presence
The survey, first launched in January, provided police personnel with a snapshot of the Maoist presence in the region. The investigation was followed up once again in July. Results showed that 15 additional villages were free from militancy as compared to January's results. The study was conducted in Dantewada district, which comprises 149 villages. The district was once a hotbed of Maoist activity.

CIA Weighs Creating Special China Unit in Bid to Out-Spy Beijing
The agency’s broader China review is also considering whether to deploy China specialists in locations around the world, following the approach used to counter Soviet influence in the Cold War, Burns said in an interview with NPR last month. He also said the agency was looking into how to deal with the “ubiquitous technical surveillance” and other “very advanced capabilities on the part of the Chinese intelligence service,” which make it more difficult to conduct espionage overseas.

UN human rights experts call for end to US sanctions regime which is punishing innocent people across the world
UNITED Nations human rights chiefs have called on Washington to end its unilateral coercive sanctions regime which they said was blocking development and punishing innocent people across the world. In a statement issued on Wednesday, independent experts appointed by the UN Human Rights Council said that the US measures were denying people access to basic necessities, including food and water.

‘Please guys, let me breathe’: Canadian cop accused of ‘excessive force’ in George Floyd-style ‘knee to the neck’ arrest (VIDEO)
“Let me breathe, guys,” Lasuik is heard saying early in the video. One of the two officers, or a third person who appears to be an airport official, subduing him responds that he was breathing since he was “talking.” The second officer and the third person were holding his legs down.

Bolsonaro’s Ally Arrested in Operation Against Digital Militias
On Friday, the Brazilian Federal Police arrested former lawmaker Roberto Jefferson as part of an investigation into far-right groups spreading fake news. His arrest was authorized by Federal Supreme Court Judge Alexandre de Moraes. In 2019, law enforcement and judicial authorities began an investigation into the spread of fake news through social networks.

Brazil plans to privatize urban rail firm
The Brazilian government will try to privatize urban rail company CBTU after an injection of capital into the firm. In the coming days, the federal government will ask congress for authorization to inject an undisclosed amount into the firm to make it more attractive for private players, according to a newspaper report.
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How come some leftists think that imperialism is good when it's done by a secondary or aspiring power? I'm talking about China taking over Vietnam's / Philippines fishing areas, Russia in Syria/Ukraine.

The historical equivalent would be supporting Germany in WW1 because it wasn't Britian.
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diaspora reactionarism

what is it with diasporas who live in the first world coming up as rightists? I'm serious about this question because it's i don't get the appeal, I've seen Mexicans voting against immigrants,ive seen Iranians who miss the shah, Lebanese who call Arabs in the middle east inherently low IQ. eastern Europeans who despise the USSR, believe it or not, I've seen Chinese people who praised the kuomintang.
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In a communist society, will you have more online privacy than you do now, or would you have less? Would products like Nest be made illegal due to the invasion of privacy as well as turning you into data to be bought and sold?
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Im depressed about life in capitalism. I grew up thinking Estate-based society and heridatary caste were just and proper. I think someone once told me rich families have tons of children,so i randomly assumed they didnt used condoms and grew up admirign these supposed heroes of sexual morality.
however,the rich DO use condoms;thus losing their "divine right" over me.
what do I do now? im already "reading theory"; a predictable answer. Should i reach out to a local leftist party? Try to use my skills to organize or unite working class frends i have?
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Nuclear fusion power will never be efficient

It's for the same reasons as to why electric cars and other electronic goods will never be efficient, they run on materials and parts that need to be assembled together using inefficient means, even if you managed to make a fusion reactor that's capable of boiling water while being efficient you would run into problems with the extreme environmental devastation caused by building the machinery required to extract the huge amounts of rare materials required to even get the reactor working especially when some substances need to be mined from the fucking moon. Most nuclear reactors are already hyper efficient along with the fact that they do far less damage to the environment as a whole compared to windmills and solar panels whom arent biodegradable and decay considerably faster than to say a dam, nuclear or coal powerplant.
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Is taking radical action in your own hands to create change wrong?

Taking one of the pivotal people in a government you are opposed to out. Will this be useful or are you against "great man theory" and they'll just be replaced by next man up?


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would the ideal communist society be ascetic and stoic,or hedonistic and pleasure-based? will hard drugs be legalized and sold freely like cigs are now? Would technology be used to ehance sexual fornication(maybe improving nerve ends on the penis)?
i want to reduce suffering,but not-to go as far as embracing pleasure.