>>456813>Socialism often appeared in countries that were incredibly backwardsYeah but the backwardness was incidental, 20th century socialism appeared in the weak-spots of the capitalist imperial system. Lenin said that socialism could arise in Russia in 1917 because it represented such a weak-spot.
>>456857>we need rich people for social progress.Rich people aren't actually supportive of social progress, they play both sides, and fund regression too, they just use sex politics to divide society against it self.
We never needed rich people to undo the persecution of sexuality, in fact the wealth inequality is an active impediment for social progress of this type.