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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I couldn't find it so i'll make a new one.


What does leftychan think of lil tay? are you a fan or a hater?…


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is it worth it to study Hegel? How does the Marxist even interpret his works? Just replace every time he mentions spirit or god with matter?


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Lil tay is actually quite tragic and is a good example of how far our society has gone off the deep end in the chase for and the generation of profits. she's the result of a lot of exploitation by everyone around her and will likely have a lot of mental issues as she continues to grow up.


Yes if you're a philosopher, no if you aren't.


Pedo thread


Ok newfag


>random child "content creator" link (much politics)
>unrelated child as OP (zoz, if you've been around small imageboards you know what I'm talking about. At least put some anime pic if you wanna shill so much and I wouldn't suspect that much)
>lainfaggot replying to it all
<mfw only 3 posts in
Just remake this thread ffs

Fuck this website for letting you subhumans roam free. I know at least 1 is reading this and I hope you have a horrible, slow and insufferable death you'll make the world a better place


What the fuck


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Take your meds skitzo


I get that communism transitions from totalitarian government to a stateless society, but why does it take so long to transition from that, why hasn't any socialist movement reached communism?

In an Anarchist society there will still be domination from people.


It doesn't have to be totalitarian this is the worst possible outcome.


Of course it does, do you really think the bourgeois and reactionary classes are just going to sit back and let you seize their wealth?

It's like Engles said:
<"revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is; it is the act whereby one part of the population imposes its will upon the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannon — authoritarian means, if such there be at all; and if the victorious party does not want to have fought in vain, it must maintain this rule by means of the terror which its arms inspire in the reactionists. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if it had not made use of this authority of the armed people against the bourgeois? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach it for not having used it freely enough?"


Retard do you think Marx and Engels were defeatists? The counter to this is a bottom up democratic organization of society and a social movement the leads to such and is such itself. Deleon is probably the most immediate contemporary of such ideology but Anarcho syndicalism is probably the next best measure


Socialism often appeared in countries that were incredibly backwards, so much so that two of the biggest communist states in history have adopted some form of capitalism at one point or another. The technological and industrial base required for communism simply wasn't available to them during the time of revolution, and by the time they approached such requirements, it was too late; ideological rot had set in and they no longer believed that communism was possible.


Obviously the rich bring problems, but would you say for example that the gays don't bring any problems?gays are a minority and would just be an after thought but If it wasn't for the rich there would no promotion of homosexuality into society.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)


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Homosexuality isn't an ideology. It's probably partially psychological and partially nature. At any rate you are a ignorant faggot for believing such retarded nonsense. People aren't gay because they are being hypnotized by the rich you moronic fuck.
It doesn't even really matter why they are gay. That's not really your business.

Next I am sure you will try and equate all homosexuality with the flamboyant faggots who first each other ont he streets of Germany but of course this is a stereotype pulled right out of failchan.

Fuck off retard.


>Socialism often appeared in countries that were incredibly backwards
Yeah but the backwardness was incidental, 20th century socialism appeared in the weak-spots of the capitalist imperial system. Lenin said that socialism could arise in Russia in 1917 because it represented such a weak-spot.

>we need rich people for social progress.
Rich people aren't actually supportive of social progress, they play both sides, and fund regression too, they just use sex politics to divide society against it self.
We never needed rich people to undo the persecution of sexuality, in fact the wealth inequality is an active impediment for social progress of this type.


>Fuck off retard.
No, fuck you, i'll post where i please.


That's fine you're welcome to post here. Just try not to spread such retardation. At least come at it objectively rather than letting your feelings dictate the way you feel and think about others.


Not surprised, Pride was started by lumpens and petty bourgois.


>Yeah but the backwardness was incidental, 20th century socialism appeared in the weak-spots of the capitalist imperial system
The "weak spots" were supposed to be the most industrialized societies where the workers are most "oppressed". But as Mussolini observed when he quit the Italian socialist party, standard of living for european workers was rising so fast there was no apatite for any kind of class based revolution.


In the manifesto and in other works, Marx and Engels criticize several different forms of socialism (feudal, petty-bourgeois, German, conservative/bourgeois, utopian). They also talk critically about primitive communism and barracks communism.
For each of the examples given, are M&E using the words "socialism" and "communism" seriously or not?
If undesirable forms of socialism or communism can exist, how does one best identify and avoid them?


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>No! Don't listen to LaSalle. Only my type of socialism is the true socialism. You must follow me!


At that point it's a matter of personal opinion to a degree but I think concepts like "Freedom, liberty, Fraternity" are something most socialists would agree is a good metric to base these opinions off of

We tred the realm of uncharted waters in modern political socialism, truly.


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How in the fuck do the liberals stomach this shit and "the poor kulaks!" in the same breath?


Grey is just putting out an observation of how things work, not how they should work. As for the Holodomor, well that shit was pretty bad. I wouldn't handwave it that easily. Genocide denial isn't really the leftist thing to do.


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>Genocide denial isn't really the leftist thing to do.
Neither is repeating debunked Nazi propaganda to support your bellicose ethnonationalist world view.


Holodomor happened. Stop denying Stalin's genocide.


In fact the actual genocide that happened in recent Ukrainian history was the massacre of Jews, Poles, and Roma people by Stepan Bandera followers during WWII.


I meant the argument of "having to stick to your interests" when if that logic was strictly true, dekulakization would never have been possible.


That's another genocide, and it should not be swept under the rug. You are correct.


Lol, you dumbass. The entire academia and even the most anticommunist historians deny "Stalin's genocide". No one believes it anymore because there is no evidence to support it, plain and simple. The only people who still believe in the Holodomor today are deranged far rightists.


Read a fucking book uyghur


Am I gae?

I don't feel like gae… but ppl keep calling me gae.

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