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 No.11956[Reply]

Recently there has been a lot of commotion around large language model text based AI.
They are able to do impressive stuff, they give useful answers, and even can write somewhat usable programming sample code.

The most famous one currently is chatgpt, but all of those AIs are basically black boxes, that probably have some malicious features under the hood.

While there are Open-Source Implementations of ChatGPT style Training Algorithms
https://www.infoq.com/news/2023/01/open-source-chatgpt/
Those kinda require that you have a sizeable gpu cluster like 500 $1k cards that are specialized kit, not your standard gaming stuff. To chew through large language-models with 100 billion to 500 billion parameters.

The biggest computational effort is the initial training run, that chews through a huge training data-set. After that is done, just running the thing to respond to your queries is easier.

So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?
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 No.11962

>>11960
Probably a Free-as-in-Free-Labor license with obfuscated code.
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 No.12036

>>11960
https://www.hackster.io/news/the-llama-is-out-of-the-bag-17993515b310

<The fun did not stop with the MacBook Pro. Other engineers got LLaMA running on Windows machines, a Pixel 6 smartphone, and even a Raspberry Pi. Granted, it runs very slowly on the Raspberry Pi 4, but considering that even a few weeks ago it would have been unthinkable that a GPT-3-class LLM would be running locally on such hardware, it is still a very impressive hack.


This seems like something worth while getting into.
Does anybody have a handle on this ?
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 No.12037

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>>12036
darn it forgot the picture
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 No.12063

>>11956
>So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
The source code being open is not enough. The dataset the AI is trained on must also be open, and it must be possible to verify the trained AI against that dataset. It is entirely possible to hide undetectable backdoors inside machine learning agents.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/cryptographers-show-how-to-hide-invisible-backdoors-in-ai-20230302/

>Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

There's a [email protected] style thing for AI called "petals", which turns a distributed network into an AI. The problem is, there's currently no way of verifying if a node is fabricating its computations or injecting fraudulent results, and it's not clear at all if verifying such a thing is even possible (short of instituting homomorphic encryption over the top of the network)
https://petals.ml/

>Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?

Basically all the new capabilities of these chatGPT-style AIs stem not from new algorithms, but throwing masses of computing power at old algorithms through brute force. So running it on a home desktop machine is not going to accomplish much.

>I guess the most useful feature is the computer-code generator, because you might be able to use that to make better Foss Ai software in the future, and help you with creating libre open source programs.

I strongly advise against using code generators to contribute to open-source software as the code they emit is likely copyright infringement (distributing significant sections of the source without the associated license attached), even though it hasn't been tested in court yet.
https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/
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 No.12065

>>12063
>It is entirely possible to hide undetectable backdoors inside machine learning agents.
Your article (which was a very interesting read b.t.w.) basically says that's possible at the moment because quantifying AI is still in it's infancy.

>There's a [email protected] style thing for AI called "petals", which turns a distributed network into an AI.

that sounds promising
>The problem is, there's currently no way of verifying if a node is fabricating its computations or injecting fraudulent results
Well there's the brute force method of sending the same computation tasks to multiple nodes and comparing the results.

>Basically all the new capabilities of these chatGPT-style AIs stem not from new algorithms, but throwing masses of computing power at old algorithms through brute force. So running it on a home desktop machine is not going to accomplish much.

Well there apparently there are "GPT-3-class" large language models that run on a single computer as stated in >>12036
It seems to me that they managed greater efficiency by pruning the parameters, as in having fewer but better quality.
I'm not sure i really understood that correctly.

>I strongly advise against using code generators to contribute to open-source software

Yeah at the moment that's probably good advice, but lets assume that once we got a clean FOSS-AI that doesn't produce license issues, that'll likely become a boon for free and open source software.


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 No.467898[Reply]

Reminder that doctors are class enemies. They are the reason healthcare is so expensive in the US.

http://freenation.org/a/f12l3.html


/leftypol/

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 No.467889[Reply]

Based congressman Matt Gaetz blasts ghoulish DOD bureaucrat over training African coup leaders. At this point, I think it's clear which party is the lesser of two evils, and it's not the party of finger snapping bosswomen and their simps.
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 No.467892

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>>467889
Holy based.
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 No.467897

Both parties are that at this point. If you actually encounter the active participants in Republican Party politics, you see some of the grodiest scum of humanity. This is the party of Reagan, after all.

If you're still participating in the farce of American politics at this point, you really aren't getting it.


/tech/

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 No.11964[Reply]

What's your take on linux software distribution ?

There's a lot of buzz around flat-pack and flat-hub atm, they are currently implementing a monetization feature. And for some reason Eric Schmidt the google-guy is involved somehow.
https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/27/flathub_app_store/
flathub isn't calld flub
I'm worried that once money is involved it will attract scammers and litigation for a payout type people. Also the payment processor they want to use is stripe, that's probably not anonymous

Ubuntu has removed flat-pack from it's official releases, to push it's snap package manager instead, i wonder if they have other reasons than "we're going to make our own pack-manager with blackjack and hookers" to yeet flat-pack from their system.

I think the best package manager in the end might be NIX

Is going from distro repositories to this type of stuff going to improve software distribution on linux ?
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 No.12050

>>12049
>use proprietary license only for their assets
*art assets

you know, so that people can actually safely pirate it and not worry about malware

AI generated art is gonna make artists obsolete anyway, or at least the highly skilled ones
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 No.12051

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>>11964
I think the main problem is that there should be a clear delimitation between gnu/linux as a tool (gentoo, nix, guix, etc.) and gnu/linux as a consumer OS

I use gentoo as my daily driver because I like foss and programming (as a hobby) and portage is more or less what I would do if I decided to write a personal package manager. if I also wanted reproducibility, the end result would be very similar to guix. these package managers are just what a programmer would expect, the intuitive approach to the problem so to speak

I have no idea what people who want to use linux as a consumer OS to do office work or play windows games need, but I'm sure their requirements are not the same as mine. I don't want them to modify my tools to accommodate for their needs, and the feeling is probably mutual

so that's my take I guess. I had to program on windows at work some years ago and it was terrible. the one size fits most approach is a waste of time

>>12035
>meson
>unneccesarily convoluted build system
you probably use shit like autotools and cmake already. meson is way less convoluted than the alternatives
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 No.12061

>>12051
>I think the main problem is that there should be a clear delimitation between gnu/linux as a tool (gentoo, nix, guix, etc.) and gnu/linux as a consumer OS

I think if you do this and appeal to normies by making gimped distros like silverblue to more easily facilitate browsing facebook, you get hordes of screeching uneducated retards like the userbase of /r/linux going WHY DOESN'T THE DOLBY ATMOS FOR MY NETFLIX WORK, WHY DOES THE SETTINGS MENU HAVE SO MANY BUTTONS, IT'S CONFUSING, LINUX IS SHIT!!!

and in response to that you have huge developers like redhat pandering to them by writing software like GNOME that is intentionally gimped in functionality yet at the same time crowds out all other alternatives from the ecosystem because it has such institutional force behind it, and shit like baked-in DRM, TPM attestation (to enforce the DRM), immutable root (to keep the retards from breaking their distro and whining about it), wayland shit which screenrecording and keybinding doesn't work half the time (because some retard might download malware which will keylog them), ad nauseam.

linux should always remain a tool. if the tool can be made easier to use without compromising on functionality, then fine. but it should always remain a tool.
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 No.12062

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>>12061
>I think if you do this
do what? keep a delimitation? do you think there should be no difference between gentoo and ubuntu?
from the rest of your message I can see that you are not as retarded as to suggest that. in principle we agree, but it is not like you can stop ibm and redhat from doing what they are doing. the best and only realistic alternative is to try to keep the tool separate from the consumer environment - this is what I call delimitation
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 No.12064

>>12062
the problem is it's difficult to keep "linux the tool" and "linux the consumption device" segregated so that the latter doesn't crush the former


/edu/

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 No.7204[Reply]

Hey Leftychads
Whatcha readin?
Pic related is the import shipment I just received. Probably going to read the Greene book first since I'm in a springtime lull before I start summer projects. What about u.
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 No.7211

>>7207
Don't feed thetroll.

Not everyone can stair at a computer screen for 24+ hours.
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 No.7212

>>7211
pretentious faggot
modern screens are better for your eyes than you fag paper books
you can even zoom in
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 No.7213

>>7212
>Hormone disrupted consoomer has logged in
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 No.7214

>>7209
Which ones in particular?
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 No.7215

>>7214
What's it to you? mind your own business.


/leftypol/

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 No.457563[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.


Pro-Russia sources:
https://nitter.net/RWApodcast
https://nitter.net/mdfzeh
https://nitter.net/AZmilitary1
https://nitter.net/wargonzoo
https://nitter.net/TheHumanFund5
https://t.me/intelslava
https://t.me/asbmil
https://t.me/vorposte

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 No.467890

>>467884
>Who killed more people in Donbass
I would say that after Feb 20222 the Ukrainian government has killed the most people, because their military strategy was criminal. They even wouldn't reconsider their meat-grinder tactics when the US military advised against it.
Second place probably goes to who ever was responsible for wrecking the Istanbul peace talks. The most public figure associated with that fiasco was UK PM Boris Johnson but he's not the only one.

>Azov

During the Donbass civil war 2014-2022, the majority of the estimated 14k civilian losses were pro-Russian Ukrainians, so it's safe to say that Azov and company did the most killing.
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 No.467891

>>467888
>I'm not a fan of Ukraine, but this was reddit tier
Not sure what that means exactly.
Maybe you could write a better response to post 467883
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 No.467894

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>>467891
>>467883
I don't reply to glowuyghurs
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 No.467895

[url=https://bupropion.lol/]wellbutrin brand discount[/url]
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 No.467896

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>>467894
that chastised soldier still btfos russkie bydlo pidors any time of the day tho

hell, russkie masculine closeted apes get slaughtered like cattle by literal troons as I write this lol

Don't you just LOVE modern industrial warfare?


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 No.145673[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

/westoid cringe general/

In this thread, we laugh at (((westerners))) and their failed societies
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 No.146741

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 No.146745

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 No.146746

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Embarrassing.
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 No.146748

>>146745
every president in history has committed crimes and this obnoxious faggot can even name the most obvious ones
literally just saying "fraud" would have been decent enough
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 No.146749

>>146746
this is what happens when you allow the socialist movement to devolve into anti-fascism or anti-imperialism, or anti-capitalism, etc


/leftypol/

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 No.467497[Reply]

<A video game company that appointed an artificial intelligence bot as its chief executive has announced a market-beating stock increase.
<China-based NetDragon Websoft named the AI program Tang Yu as its CEO in August, tasked with supporting decision making for the company’s daily operations.

https://archive.is/b3uPW

This specific case might be mostly a PR stunt, but it could be that the managerial strata in the corporate bureaucracy gets replaced by robots before the proles do.

What does that mean for Socialism ?
Will this make it easier to convert the economy to something like cybernetic socialism ?
Since it's all in the computer anyway, it just needs to be reconfigured a bit ?
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 No.467799

>>467797
>i have no argument and tacitly accept your response
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 No.467811

>>467799
He reeks of Tavistock.
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 No.467874

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 No.467878

>>467874
I guess it's petty on both sides, nuking the world unless the google-bot says "በꚤርርቺኑ" isn't really top quality decision making either.
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 No.467893

>>467878
such pettiness is not unusual for "politics" in current year


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 No.146747[Reply]

Bets for WW3?


/leftypol/

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 No.467207[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/san-francisco-decide-black-reparations-plan-5m-person-rcna74873
Cope and seethe CHUDs anti idpolers kek
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 No.467363

>>467358
>Tankies think they can sack L.A. because they took over some city in bumfuck Egypt.
The delusion of tankies is just incredible.
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 No.467364

>>467361
No honey, the history of slavery taught to kids is extremely white washed. They basically say it was just unpaid labor. Oh and the boat ride over was really cramped. They don't go over the brtual rapes, beatings, murder, pedophilia, and mass trauma that occurred daily under that system.
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 No.467365

>>467364
>Omg state schools in America don't teach you about all the wahbad things america ever did.
t. Brainlet
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 No.467366

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>>467362
Checked
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 No.467886

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/ent/

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 No.7829[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

What are some classic cute yuri animu to watch??
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 No.8872

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tifa >>8729 >>8780 >>8804 >>8816 >>8869
nsfw

warcraft >>8134 >>8243 >>8247 >>8249 >>8255 >>8670 >>8676 >>8742 >>8783 >>8843 >>8852 >>8869
nsfw

Harley Quinn/Poison Ivy >>8124 >>8126 >>8681 >>8775 >>8849
nsfw

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 No.8876

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tifa/aeris (2) [ >>8793 ] [ >>8868 ] >>8869

amelie/angela (2) >>8003 >>8871
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 No.8877

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tifa/aeris
nsfw

tifa >>8238 >>8239 >>8719 >>8816 >>8848 >>8865
nsfw

lara croft >>8065 >>8666 >>8804 >>8869
nsfw

bioshock
nsfw
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 No.8884

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tifa >>8238 >>8239 >>8719 >>8816 >>8848 >>8865 >>8877

wonder_woman/power_girl

dead or alive (2 images) >>8233 >>8241 >>8243 >>8246 >>8247 >>8249 >>8253 >>8680 >>8686 >>8691 >>8696 >>8714 >>8721 >>8724 >>8852 >>8865

miss marvel/scarlet witch
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 No.8885

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2x dead or alive
nsfw

jill valentine/yennefer
nsfw

panam palmer/valerie
nsfw

>(2 images) >>8884

just a copy-paste error


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 No.146742[Reply]

Found this cringe on reddit. Is this shit trying to claim that trotsky was a tsarist?
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 No.146743

>reddit
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 No.146744

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Ukrainian national identity try not to be reddit challenge (impossible)


/leftypol/

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 No.467379[Reply]

The strikes are massive and the political opposition to macron's pension-rape has doubled from 26% to 46% in just a few months.

Macron has undemocratically bypassed the french parliament by using article 49.3 of the french constitution, to box this through. However it's now possible to oust him with a no-confidence motion.

There's a very strong possibility that this is Macrons political suicide, and it's very unlikely that this pension-rape will stand. The French imperial bourgeoisie has recently lost a lot of power in their African pseudo-colonies. The president of the Congo Felix Tshisedkedi recently flat out told Macron to shut-up his "imperial paternalism" during a political conference. And that means they can't fight against the french proles at home and fight to maintain imperial dominance in Africa at the same time.

I don't know enough about the political realities in France to make predictions about the ramifications, but seems that the imperial bourgeoisie in France is going to get a serious haircut.

Video source for the op-pic
https://nitter.net/L_insoumission/status/1636462337245736961
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 No.467425

>>467379
>The French imperial bourgeoisie has recently lost a lot of power in their African pseudo-colonies.
Huh? I didn't know that french corporate assets in their former colonies got seized.

>The president of the Congo Felix Tshisedkedi recently flat out told Macron to shut-up his "imperial paternalism" during a political conference.

Wow, you go kang! Totally not an empty populist move without any actual substance!

African capitalist shitholes have two choices - old tired western boot or a new shiny chinese boot

all the fucking African mobutus should be rounded up and carpet bombed, they would never amount to anything
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 No.467430

>>467425
i agree, 'old western boot' as you say, is bad
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 No.467774

Is the Duran right ?, did Macron just say fuck it because he thinks that after his political career is over he'll get a cushy job somewhere in the "Neo-librocracy".

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=COrQ5T3D0dY
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 No.467809

Spicy French protest Livestream
>Why do I have to go to 4chan to find info about people trying to overthrow a government. You fags are worthless
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8qWaokj/
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 No.467875

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/hobby/

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 No.14436[Reply]

What do you think of the ending to Watchmen?
Do you agree with Ozymandias?
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 No.19522

>>19521
>Vietnam *not* posing any serious existential threat.
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 No.19523

>>19520
>Explains the reasoning of a critic.
>Appeal to authority
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 No.19524

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>>19521
>existential threat.
Yeah, but the American soldiers who lost in Vietnam also fought despite Vietnam posing any serious existential threat. The point is that he has a foot in the human world, he is operating for the American state, and this highlights that.
This is the point, he acts like a fucking midwit burger except he's invincible now. Other than acting cold what fucking effect did being privy to every fucking secret of the universe have on Dr. Manhattan?
This is why Greek and Christian Gods are so timeless. They don't have these yawning gaps in their own logic.
I get that sacrificing a a few 100 thousand people might be justified to prevent a nuclear war that kills billions but the Vietnam War was a farcical war that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE KNEW AT THE TIME.
Regular comics avoid these problems by having their own made up politics.
One critic I linked said that Moore has a nostalgia for Nixon and even Reagan to an extent. This rings true and is the only explanation for Moore's confounding choices for his alternative history.
Many Anarchists harbor have this reactionary sympathy for fascists. And it's in Moore's comics. They're like Pit Mommies that think prejudice against their dangerous dogs are allegories for prosecution of marginalized people.
I agree with Moore's subtext that it's silly to think that super hero's with the power to shape society would be good and ethical because, well just because! But then he makes equally absurd claims that superheroes would all be irredeemable asswipes because society mmaaaaaaan.
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 No.19525

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>>19521
>Yeah, but the American soldiers who lost in Vietnam also fought despite Vietnam posing any serious existential threat. The point is that he has a foot in the human world, he is operating for the American state, and this highlights that.
This is the point, he acts like a fucking midwit burger except he's invincible now. Other than acting cold what fucking effect did being privy to every fucking secret of the universe have on Dr. Manhattan?
This is why Greek and Christian Gods are so timeless. They don't have these yawning gaps in their own logic.
I get that sacrificing a a few 100 thousand people might be justified to prevent a nuclear war that kills billions but the Vietnam War was a farcical war that MILLIONS OF PEOPLE KNEW AT THE TIME.
Regular comics avoid these problems by having their own made up politics.
One critic I linked said that Moore has a nostalgia for Nixon and even Reagan to an extent. This rings true and is the only explanation for Moore's confounding choices for his alternative history.
Many Anarchists harbor have this reactionary sympathy for fascists. And it's in Moore's comics. They're like Pit Mommies that think prejudice against their dangerous dogs are allegories for prosecution of marginalized people.
I agree with Moore's subtext that it's silly to think that super hero's with the power to shape society would be good and ethical because, well just because! But then he makes equally absurd claims that superheroes would all be irredeemable asswipes because society mmaaaaaaan. There's zero subtlety or complexity to his deconstruction.
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 No.19526

>>19521
>Dude, you're complaining about Alan Moore being disrespectful towards comics or whatever you think he's doing, and you don't even know who The Question is? Come on!
The Question is an obscure as fuck character, give me a break.


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 No.226[Reply]

How do I stop myself wanting a gf so badly that it hurts?
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>>2039
We get it. You live to fuck. Good for you.
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>>2040
Jeez, with all the time you save, you must have a really awesome life full of accomplishments👍
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 No.2042

>>2037
Bronze Age Mindset by a pseudonym named Bronze Age Pervert is the source for those images
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>>2042
nobody asked, bugman
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 No.2044

>>2042
Great book


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This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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>>467256
that AI is awesome
they all look the same
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 No.467367

>>467256
Of course this is a daft idea, but consider that this is most likely a pilot project, where they are doing a trial run. Chinese politics is very experimentalist, they will try out just about everything and ruthlessly scrap the experiments that didn't work out.

It's not like in the west, where once something like this gets installed it's already decided and a done deal and it takes decades of political struggle or sustained vandalism to get rid of it again.
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 No.467368

>>467367
t. Burger without a passport
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>>467202
>>467368
looks like baiting for personal information
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China's super rich population drops

<More than 400 people lost their billionaire status last year, most from China, as global monetary tightening, Covid-19 disruptions and Beijing's crackdown on major tech companies hurt the super wealthy, a ranking of the world's wealthiest showed.


<China lost 229 billionaires from the Hurun Global Rich List 2023, accounting more than half of the 445 people who disappeared from the list, which ranks moguls with a minimum net worth of US$1 billion


https://www.todayonline.com/world/chinas-super-rich-population-drops-tech-crackdown-global-factors-hurt-wealth-2136156


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 No.146235[Reply]

>public health misinformation thread
Coof, jibby jab, and health news mega
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>>146735
>got 3+ shots
>doesn't side with Ukraine
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 No.146737

>>146736
is russria winning though?
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>>146737
>You don't support X? Then you must support Y!
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 No.467818[Reply]

During marx's time money based on precious metals like gold or silver were the universal commodity, against which all other commodities were measured.

After money was detached from metal, the only real universal commodity money was the dollar because that was the only one against which all other commodities were measured. And you could say many of the big currencies that were easily converted into dollars had some of that universality rub off on them. By the way i count precious metal derived money as fiat money as well.

After the US began expanding sanctions at some point they crossed the line where the dollar can't be considered as the universal commodity against which all other commodities are measured anymore.

Precious metals are still universal in the sense that every economy will exchange for it, but you can't really use it to buy stuff. Shops don't have scales for measuring the weight of metal anymore, and won't accept pieces of metal as payments. That means that it's not really money.

There are a select few crypto moneys that appear to have the ambition to become a universal commodity, but they are very far away from realizing that.

So where does that leave universal commodity money ?
Does that still exist ?
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 No.467822

Money by it's very nature is universal equivalency to all other commodities on the market otherwise it wouldn't be money. Regardless if it's fiat or not.
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 No.467825

>>467822
>Money by it's very nature is universal equivalency to all other commodities on the market otherwise it wouldn't be money.
Ok that's a very strong stance.
The implication of what you are saying is that at the moment none of the major currencies at present are really money, because they're not an equivalency to ALL commodities that exist.
Do you agree with that ?
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 No.467831

The money form can be any arbitrary thing, but it is always pointing to something substantive that is contested. It isn't wholly arbitrary - conjuring money out of money brings consequences.

It had been understood that there was nothing special about gold or silver or any particular substance, but gold and silver standards represented different interests in society, with the gold being hoarded by the very rich and silver being used by commoners. This division goes back to Roman times and coinage at least. So too would currencies like the "greenback" represent certain interests.

It is long understood in any form of statecraft that you need to control the bank to truly be rich. This is what the leading capitalists did, and what the subordinate capitalists clamored for - to control the bank. There is always some interest that is understood to represent Mammon or however you would personify money itself in some spiritual sense, and that's what someone looking to win in finance seeks and orients their behavior around. Obviously the gold itself isn't useful for some intrisic quality, which is what early political economists figured out. For Marx, money is a social relation. For others, money is a useful contrivance by interests who can use it to manipulate behavior, within certain parameters. It really depends on where you stand in society. Those grasping for power tend to look for some avenue that will let them seize the state, while those who hold the state generally seek to arrest that and invent all manner of scams to keep the graspers chasing after phantoms. The lower classes are told to keep their head down until they're put back into serfdom, and no one really wants to see serfdom end. If it truly did end, it would be nearly impossible for human society to produce, because the incentives of the producers would see excess and large concentrations of wealth as too dangerous in any circumstance. The aim of the lower classes has always been consistent, and it is not a grand aim - they want their shit back and to never see this beast ruling over them ever again. Don't ask them how they're going to do it or maintain the situation, they just want this entire apparatus out of their lives forever. That's all they ever wanted. They don't want to be part of it or sully themselves with such a ridiculous pursuit as taking over the world. The world was theirs by simple virtue of existence until it was taken from them by a willful actor. It is one reasPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Democracy: Governance by lot with citizen participation in major decision-making
"Representative democracy": an Orwellian word inversion used basically to describe the Roman oligarchic system of governance with fake appeals to populism peddled by Jefferson, Madison, and especially Andrew Jackson

Were leftists of the late 19th and early 20th century aware that this word inversion had taken place? Did any of them have an inkling that elections were a naturally oligarchic institution? I am curious about the effect this historical revision of the democratic mode of governance had on socialist strategies, tactics, and institutions. I know Marx had an education in the Greek classics, so at least he was aware… Right?
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 No.466747

>>466328
>And once the wolf cub gets a taste of blood, it's anyone's guess what happens next.
Lol. If it's anything like Athens, then there will be blood. Because that democracy had one peculiar feature, at least when it came to crimes against the state (isangelia) - accuser didn't risk anything, while the accused risked everything (capital punishment).

Many politicians were killed by this method, especially strategoi. At some periods in Athenian history it was basically a suicide mission to be elected as a strategos. Multiple times in Athenian history there were mass executions of strategoi.
Orators didn't fare much better either, as they too were subject to isangelia, and some were killed for "deceiving the demos" when their agitation led to bad results. Orators also had to deal with "graphe paranomon", a suit against proposals in the assembly that are "contrary to the law", where the accuser again didn't risk anything. Funny enough orators enthusiastically used this procedure against each other.

The general rule of Athenian politics was "the demos can never be wrong, and when it is wrong, it is because it was deceived by bad politicians".
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 No.466753

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>>466747
>capital punishment for heads of state that fuck up
Based beyond belief. Shoulder the responsibility, bear the risk.
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 No.466802

>>466753
It's not just about fucking up.
Demos in general didn't like people who were too eager or successful in their political careers. Especially after the oligarchic coup failed and the middle classes got decimated in the Peloponnesian war. Politically ambitious people were viewed as potential tyrants.
Out of all the famous Athenian politicians all ended up either sentenced to death or exiled. The smartest, like Pericles, when they sensed the mood, just laid low out of the public eye. Even Demosthenes was cursing the Demos, while running from a death sentence for his involvement in the Harpal's case.

And that's not even talking about Socrates, who was killed for ideological reasons and was made an example of to others like Plato.
Aristotle also ended up running from a death sentence.
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 No.466803

>>466802
>And that's not even talking about Socrates, who was killed for ideological reasons and was made an example of to others like Plato.
Tho to be fair, the Demos didn't intend to kill him per se. Just wanted to humiliate him, to see him beg for his life like all the others, to make him submit publicly.
But the old sophist chose death.
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 No.467830

>>466062
>Even Cleisthenes was ostracized.
Correction: this may have actually been a rumor started by a Roman Greekaboo in the 2nd century AD, about 700 years later. There doesn't seem to exist any other source supporting this and there's no evidence from excavated ostraca that Cleisthenes was ever ostracized either.


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 No.456057[Reply]

Let's get a general thread about FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate). Include topics about crypto as well.
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 No.467486

>>467481
>I wonder if this is related to Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank going down.
It is more related to the interest rate.

I don't think Credit Suisse had any direct connections the the squeezed US banks or their depositors.
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 No.467508

>>467481
credit suisse has been in a bad state for a long time now
fears surrounding bank runs definitely made their situation less acceptable
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 No.467511

>>467481
>>467486
>>467508
Credit Suisse bank has just been bought by UBS bank.

Not sure what that means tho. It's so tiresome to decrypt the machinations of fictional capital.
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 No.467543

>>467511
Crisis delayed


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A while back, I wrote a summary of every chapter from Robert Greene's '48 Laws of Power.'

If you haven't read it, I'd highly recommend. These summaries don't do the book justice, since I've stripped away the historical anecdotes and quotes which really make the work come to life. However, I think there are still some interesting tidbits and lessons in these summaries, so I thought I'd share.
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<40 - DESPISE THE FREE LUNCH

From Robert Greene:

>"What is offered for free or at a bargain rate often comes with a psychological price tag - complicated feelings of obligation, compromises with quality, the insecurity those compromises bring, on and on. The powerful learn early to protect their most valuable resources: independence and room to maneuver."


>"Generosity softens people up - to be deceived. By gaining a reputation for liberality, you win people's admiration while distracting them from your power plays."


>“For everyone able to play with money, thousands more are locked in a self-destructive refusal to use money creatively and strategically. These types represent the opposite pole to the powerful, and you must learn to recognize them - either to avoid there poisonous natures or just turn their inflexibility to your advantage."


>"Powerful people judge everything by what it costs, not just in money but in time, dignity, and peace of mind. And this is exactly what bargain demons cannot do. Wasting valuable time digging for bargains, they worry endlessly about what they could have gotten elsewhere for a little less."


>"Generosity has a definite function in power: it attracts people, softens them up, makes allies out of them. But it has to be used strategically, with a definite end in mind. Indiscriminate givers, on the other hand, are dangerous because they want to be loved and admired by all. And their generosity is so indiscriminate and needy and it may not have the desired effect: If they give to one and all, why should the recipient feel special?"


>"Make power your goal and money will find its way to you."

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 No.7193

<41 - AVOID STEPPING INTO A GREAT MAN'S SHOES

From Robert Greene:

>"Power depends on appearing larger than other people, and when you are lost in the shadow of the father, the king, the great predecessor, you cannot possibly project such a presence."


>"Alexander [the Great] knew he had to make himself the very opposite of his domineering father: he would force himself to be bold and reckless, he would control his tongue and be a man of few words, and he would not lose precious time in pursuit of pleasure that brought no glory… But Alexander had the same relationship to his own deeds as he had to his father: his conquest of Persia represented the past, and he was never to rest on past triumphs, or to allow the past to outshine the present."


>"Only the weak rest on their laurels and dote on past triumphs; in the game of power there is never time to rest."


>"The distance you establish from your predecessor often demand some symbolism, a way of advertising itself publicly."


>"Never let yourself be seen as following your predecessor’s path. If you do you will never surpass him. You must physically demonstrate your difference, by establishing a style and symbolism that sets you apart."


>"Most people are afraid to break so boldly with tradition, but they secretly admire those who can break up the old forms and reinvigorate the culture."

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 No.7194

<42 - STRIKE THE SHEPHERD AND THE SHEEP WILL SCATTER

From Robert Greene:

>"Within any group, trouble can most often be traced to a single source, the unhappy, the chronically dissatisfied one who will always stir up dissension and infect the group with his or her ill ease. Before you know what hit you, that the satisfaction spreads. Act before it becomes impossible to disentangle one strand of misery from another, or to see how the whole thing started. First, recognize troublemakers by their overbearing presence, or by their complaining nature. Once you spot them do not try to reform them or appease them - that will only make things worse. Do not attack them, whether directly or indirectly, for they are poisonous in nature and we'll work underground to destroy you… Banish them before it is too late."


>"Do not waste time lashing out in all directions at what seems to be a many-headed enemy. Find the one head that matters - the person with willpower, or smarts, or, most important of all, charisma. Whatever it costs you, lure this person away, for once he is absent his powers will lose their effect."


>"In every group, power is concentrated in the hands of one or two people, for this is one area in which human nature will never change: people will congregate around a single strong personality and like planets orbiting the Sun."


>"Powerful people never waste time. Outwardly they may play along with the game - pretending that power is shared among many - but inwardly they keep their eyes on the inevitable few in the group who hold the cards."


>"It is often better to isolate your enemies than to destroy them - you seem less brutal. The result, though, is the same, for in the game of power isolation spells death."


Power is everywhere. Even among your detractors and rivals, power exists. Rather than attacking in a blunt fashion, it is often better to surgically strike the source of the problem.
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<43 - WORK ON THE HEARTS AND MINDS OF OTHERS

From Robert Greene:

>"Coercion creates a reaction that will eventually work against you. You must seduce others into wanting to move in your direction."


>"At all times you must attend to those around you, gauging their particular psychology, tailoring your words to what you know it will entice and seduce them. This requires energy and art."


>"In all your encounters, take a step back - take time to calculate and a tune yourself to your targets' emotional makeup and psychological weaknesses. Force will only strengthen their resistance. With most people the heart is the key: they are like children, ruled by their emotions. To soften them up, alternate harshness with mercy."


>"The key to persuasion is softening people up and breaking them down, gently. Seduce them with a two-pronged approach: work on their emotions and play on their intellectual weaknesses. Be alert to both what separates them from everyone else (their individual psychology) and what they share with everyone else (their basic emotional responses). Aim at the primary emotions - love, hate, jealousy. Once you moved their emotions you have reduced their control, making them more vulnerable to persuasion."


>"Play on contrast like this: push people to despair, then give them relief. If they expect pain and you give them pleasure, you win their hearts."


>"To find the key that will motivate them, first get them to open up. The more they talk, the more they reveal about their likes and dislikes - the handles and levers to move them with."

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<44 - DISARM AND INFURIATE WITH THE MIRROR EFFECT

From Robert Green:

>"This is the power of mirroring those around you. First, you give people the feeling that you share their thoughts and goals. Second if they suspect you have ulterior motives, the mirror shields you from them, preventing them from figuring out your strategy. Eventually this will infuriate and unsettle them. By playing the double, you steal their thunder, suck away their initiative, make them feel helpless. You also gain the ability to choose when and how to unsettle them - another avenue to power. The mirror saves you mental energy: simply echoing in the moves of others gives you the space you need to develop a strategy of your own."


>"Everyone is wrapped up in their own narcissistic shell. When you try to impose your own ego on them, a wall goes up, resistance is increased. By mirroring them, however, you seduce them into a kind of narcissistic rapture: they are gazing at a double of their own soul. This double is actually manufactured in its entirety by you. Once you have used the mirror to seduce them, you have great power over them."


>"When you're dealing with the intractable willpower of other people, direct communication often only heightens their resistance… As Christ himself understood, talking in parables is often the best way to teach a lesson, for it allows people to realize the truth on their own."


>"When dealing with people who are lost in the reflections of fantasy worlds never try to push them into reality by shattering their mirrors. Instead enter their world and operate inside of it under their rules, gently guiding them out of the hall of mirrors they have entered."


>"The mirroring of reality offers immense deceptive powers. The right uniform, the right accent, the proper props - the deception cannot be deciphered because it is intermeshed in a simulation of reality."


>"After all, we cannot go around doubting the reality of everything we see - that would be too exhausting. We habitually accept appearances, and this is a credulity you can use."

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 No.11916[Reply]

Tell me, anon: what are the best minigames in RPGs?
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When your minigame is better than the actual game…
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>>11917
This?
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>>11920
Yup, it's literally just Pipe Mania/Pipe Dream.
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 No.11945

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Inertia is also a nice "mini game"

pic related is from Simon Tatham's Portable Puzzle Collection
https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/

on linux the package name is sgt-puzzles


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 No.530[Reply]

>revolutionary defeatism with incel characteristics
It's happening bros
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 No.764

Anyday now.
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 No.1156

bump
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 No.2027

bump and also get rid of the faggot e-celeb spam
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This got posted on .org earlier today. I didn't know there was an entire movement around being a sexless bum tbh
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>>2028
These people should be put into a gulag. Let them rot while doing labor


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 No.19482[Reply]

Only post bops.
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Legends.
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>>19486

Hell yeah
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 No.467807[Reply]

I'm asking my self whether or not the neocons are nothing but blood-dripping salesmen for the arms-industry, and all their ideological stuff is foolishness.

I'm not looking for cheap shots, like proving they never achieve their stated goals like "winning the war on terror". Just assume it's part of their strategy to lie about their true goals.

I used to think that they were both effective at generating profits for the arms industry and also furthering US imperial power. But I don't think that anymore.

For example the wars in the middle east caused something like a war-chaos-belt that separated Europe from Asia and prevented the formation of "Ꭼurꭺsian" (loaded term) economic integration that could potentially become an economic block that would be many times more powerful than the US. So in that sense you could look at the failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on as somewhat effective at maintaining US hegemonic power.

But it turns out that it wasn't the case. The conclusion that most analysts are drawing now is that the US wasted a bunch of time and effort fucking up the Arabs. And was nothing but a distraction that allowed China to grow into an economic powerhouse that is now more or less untouchable for the foreseeable future.

The Ukraine crisis again follows a similar structure, it seemed like a viable way to separate Russian-German economic cooperation by creating a trade-disrupting war-zone and political-capital for economic separation, so that economic integration may not lead to a Russo-European economic block that would have been more powerful than the US.

But it turns out that this wasn't the case either. The result of the Ukraine crisis is:

Sino-Russian economic integration. Which might lead to the formation of a much more powerful economic block than the Russo-European one. But the consequences don't stop at undoing the Sino-Soviet split. It also has killed the economic power of Europe which means that a potential Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ (loaded term) economic block is much weaker now.
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The ironic part is that neo-cons/neo-libs sell themselves as the competent, somber, grown ups who really under stand how the world works.

As they lose grip on imperial power and global influence, it's going to become rapidly clear that this isn't the case.
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 No.467815

They're just smart enough to make us miserable and avoid any consequences. It's all they need to be.

I don't know anyone who actually likes these people. They get all of their uncritical support from people who learned to follow what the news man said on the TV, and they don't get much of that because they're so fucking odious. Just about everyone voting for them has this cynical plan where they think they're totally making the smart choice by getting one up on the others and sucking up to the Bush family. It's a combination of natural born cuckoldry and the same sort of low cunning the neocons themselves embody.

They really got drunk off the Blackest Reaction and thought they were actually becoming gods. It's some freaky BDSM shit but with a rightoid flavor.

Anyway, there were reasons for everything the neocons did. They could get away with it, so they did. They're horrifically unpopular, but the plan they represent is winning and they'll tear down anyone in their path. As far as they're concerned, they're better than freerolling. The worse they are, the better they are paid and the stronger their position. Any check that would have sobered them has been neutralized, and that is a first in human history.
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 No.467817

>>467815
>They're just smart enough to make us miserable and avoid any consequences.
I'm not sure, they are clever enough. They are attacking the interests of almost everybody in the world, including powerful interests. While the great masses of people may at present still be insufficiently organized to retaliate, that isn't true for those capitalist interests they have attacked. I can't imagine that they have carefully calibrated their actions enough to avoid retaliation.

They're also growing more reckless as the US empire declines, like for example that high ranking US politician that got into a plane that baited the PRC to shoot it down. Or these personal vendettas against Russian state officials. Given the prevailing trends there comes a time when the US's power falls below the threshold where this doesn't have consequences. Considering that this type of antagonism is strategically useless, it doesn't look like carefully calibrated actions that serve a goal.

>They're horrifically unpopular, but the plan they represent is winning and they'll tear down anyone in their path.

To me this sounds like they are accumulating enemies until there's enough quantity to lead to a change in quality. Lets not forget that they aren't winning, they are operating on pissing away legacy power. And their political power is based on a promise to the big bourgeoisie that they can make the imperial super-profits "go brrrr" by re-subjugating Russia and China to US Hegemony. It's extremely unlikely that they can deliver on this.

At the moment the neocons are raiding the armories of the US and Europe, which will leave both very vulnerable, and they are promising that this is worth the risk because it will exhaust the Russian war-machine. If that doesn't happen (a.t.m. there is no sign that it will), they will make a lot of enemies in those military organizations. It will look like sabotaging the military by disarming them. If either the US or Europe is confronted with military challenges before the armories can be replenished, it will look like treason. Lets not forget all the capitalists that aren't getting a piece of the "Russia-cake" they were promised.

You are basically telling me that these people will remain in power.
But i don't understand how. To me it sounds like yPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.467819

>>467817
I don't see anything dislodging the beast Bush created. They can survive the fall of the legal United States and have levers controlling anything that would be useful.

You have to get over the idea that there is an opposition to the Empire. It's a global operation now. We're seeing the dissolution of the nation-state system and its replacement with regional HR departments managing the slaves. There is already a world state, but we ain't in it. We're national serfs, or at least I am.
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 No.467820

So far as there is opposition, it is for people who want a seat at the table, not some struggle of civilizations with entirely different interets that must fight. No one wants a serious fight which is why Putin is pulling back. There is this idea that Ukraine can be localized and no one wants that to turn into a general war.


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 No.1502[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

I don't even think it should be illegal for any moral reason, or, because I think it is degenerate. I think it is bullshit women get to get by only on their looks and their pussies. They should get a job like the rest of us.
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 No.1982

>>1981
<Nah bro. Capitalism evolved after Marx.

Lenin summarized this development in 'Imperialism, the highest stage of capitalism.'

Since then, it hasn't evolved at all.

Hence, that's the final word on political economy.
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 No.1991

>>1978
The gambling industry isn't selling a commodity faggot wtf are you dumb?
That's the whole point. It's called fictional capital or in modern economics: Speculation. Everything Marx said is still applicable today and you aren't witty or edgy for thinking otherwise.
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 No.2007

>>1991
>Everything Marx said is applicable today, except a huge chunk of the modern economy doesn't fit into his description of capitalism as a system based on the production of commodities
Makes sense
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 No.2029

>>2007
>Gambling is a huge chunk of the modern economy.
You have to go back.
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 No.2030

>>2007
He does gambling not 'fit' into what he said? Lmao.


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 No.467745[Reply]

Serious question. I've read recently that the dynamics of the ant population, ie how many different types of ants should be produced, is actually determined by worker ants in a colony.
This implies that the queen is actually a mean of reproduction controlled by the worker ants, through feeding patterns, pheromones or whatever other mechanisms. Is there a detailed research on this?
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 No.467787

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>>467759
>How the World Works
>maybe someone has the pdf
here you go
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 No.467806

>>467787
Is this book really much different than anything written by Dave Harvey or Wolff? Just read a summary and it sounds exactly the same as any other circa 2000 Leftoid Marxoid book you'd find at the Goodwill.
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 No.467810

>>467806
I doubt that you can draw conclusions based on comparing book summaries.
I would say that :
Cockshott is the king of brevity, he writes extremely to the point, and manages to pack in a lot more knowledge in a lot fewer pages. On the philosophical scale I would consider Cockshott to be a harder materialist than Harvey or Wolff.

I can't really give you a comparative literature analysis because for that you really have to purposefully read authors side by side and note the points of difference and agreement.

If your intention is to socially discredit Cockshott's book without actually engaging with the contents, then kindly fuck off, i think this is a worthwhile read.
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 No.467812

>>467810
No, I'm actually fairly interested in reading it since it gets shilled so hard here. But I'd have to pay to get it imported where I live. Someone should post screenshots of the best passages, since the chance of me reading a book on my phone is practically 0.
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 No.467816

>>467812
the only cockshott book worth buying is "towards a new socialism", and it would depend on the price. cockshott gets shilled because he has a computer science / programming background and some crazy ideas, people read him for the entertainment or intellectual value, rather than practical insight. I like his books, but they are like sci-fi novels

if you want a serious materialist analysis of your surroundings, find marxist authors specialized in your region


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 No.451642[Reply]

I've just finished watching the Caleb & Haz discourse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uUuB6Slqk about "muh third worldists and US socialist patriotism" (which was basically a covert response to the recent Caleb vs. Unruhe drama on Twitter), and came to a revelation.

Caleb emphasizes (generally, but in this exchange as well) how just like China had its "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" so will the USA in the foreseeable future have its "Socialism with Amurrican Characteristics [SWAC]." So it made me wonder… what would SWAC look like? And then I had a revelation. It would be how like their current advocates are, meaning Caleb and Haz: bullshitters making shit work by bullshitting.

If you aren't familiar with this take I'll give you a crash course:
>Caleb Maupin
>well read on communist history
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and philosophy
>tries to start an IRL movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult

>Haz

>well read on non-Marxist philosophy
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and world history
>tries to start an online movement
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 No.467803

>>467801
>was he just doing a bit
No, he was either doing a parody of pretentious gen x fags who whine about everything or he was that himself
>he was trying to teach people
Yeah the same way anti capitalist movies are so prevalent now despite have 0 material critique. It’s just self serving bs
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 No.467804

>>467802
lol
lmao even
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 No.467805

>>467803
Even only everyone was a rrrrradical as you, we'd have full communism by now

But how could that be, since you're such a special snowflake
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 No.467813

>>467805
>>467804
You are so much of a leftist faggot you probably think we just need a good communist party then suddenly say “I declare the country to be socialist” and it will be that.
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 No.467814

>>467813
You're replying two different people. Personally, I think the notion of equality is a lazy secular-Christian cope for losers who resent winners.


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 No.131[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Incel humor thread.
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 No.1960

>>1959
I work with a bitch who has one of these.
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 No.1961

>>1958
I hate women.
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 No.2025

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<I like boobs, so I got fat and have boobs now. Why aren't women interested in me?


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 No.146734[Reply]

We all know that the USD is the world's biggest shitcoin. Is America about to be rug pulled?


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