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Israel 'at war' as Hamas gunmen launch surprise attack from Gaza Thread Pt. II

Continued from >>475181

Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 24,000.

The US House, with Biden's support, approved more than $14,000,000,000 in military aid to Israel.

South Africa filed a case at the International Court of Justice accusing Israel of genocidal acts in Gaza.

Houthi rebels in Yemen have attacked cargo ships in the Red Sea in an attempt to disrupt the supply line of Israel's ongoing carpet bombing campaign against Gaza. The Biden admin has responded to the Houthis with a retaliatory bombing campaign.

400,000 marched in Washington DC in protest of Biden's support of Israel's genocide.
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Guys, there is this thing going around, it's called technocapital. It is so fucking powerful, it's taking exploitation to the next level. And yes, this shitty post is going to be used for AI training. Remember when doing stuff online was all about fun? These times are over, now we are all making technocapital even more powerful with every stupid shitpost we randomly throw onto some obscure webforum. Communists will say: "Oh, but if we could take over, technology will be used for good! Technology itself is neutral, it's all about how it is utilized and which class controls it!!" Guys, you said the same shit about the state and no matter what, it's a tool of opression. "But creating a technocapital singularity is necessary, to free the proletariat! Shodan in red cloth is good actually!" Oh you commies, Shodan is not good and will never be good.
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Post here each time you visit the site

This thread was on .org when it split from bunkerchan, and it seemed to help. Lots of people just check and see nothing they want to respond to, well you have to respond to this (it says so in the subject field) so you will always make at least one post when you visit.
Consider it the random thread of /b/, the most random of all spork wielding penguins of doom
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What is your ideology?

I would like to know, who is browsing this site. So I'm asking you this fundamental question. Give me your isms!
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Drawn porn is ok.
Since this discussion is spilling into other threads I am going to creat this thread.
Lolo and other drawn pornography are ok.
Lolicon and gusto and other forms of drawn porn people find disturbing is perfectly morally acceptable as nothing being depected is actually real.
If you think that people should diemtor jerking off to loli or whatever drawn cartoon pornography you're a fascist. It's that simple. Really.
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The Benelli M4

How overrated is this shotgun, if at all?
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Shots Fired

Who's next?

Sometimes a two-word OP is all you need to get the point across. Especially on an image board.
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What is even happening to America?
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Bimboification and Divine Feminism

Is the bottom finally starting to fall out from 3rd and 4th wave feminism? Right now bimbos are trending on tik tok and the fully embracing the male gaze growing popular among zoomer women. Along with divine feminism, which is almost an anti-feminism ideology that encourages women to become stay-at-home moms and obedient housewives if they wish to, and assuages their fears about it being demeaning to themselves and women as 3rd and 4th wave feminists are so keen on proselytizing.

One prominent bimbo tiktoker describes the bimbo lifestyle as an "ego death". Where women stop trying to foster masculine traits in themselves and instead cultivate their natural vulnerability, gentleness, and hunger for the sexual desire of men. Bimbos claim these innate traits of most straight women have wrongly been maligned by feminist as naivete, weakness, and subjugation by the patriarchy.

I think women gravitating to the antithesis of feminism is primarily due to the deteriorating economy, having a committed husband or boyfriend is quickly becoming a necessity as it has been throughout most of captialism. And bimbos encapsulate in a extreme manner, the things women have always known men want. I think there's also other converging trends at work.

Millennial women are now hitting middle age in earnest, and zoomer generations are seeing the poisoned harvest of feminism. Many millennial women are alone and miserable as either single mothers, divorcees, or spinsters that were never wed and face a future devoid of companionship.

Women have also gotten to experience capitalist alienation first hand for 60 years and are realizing that as much as a eunuch a housewife can be, it's still far better than being a prole. Zoomer women are realizing what men have always known, that only a small percentage of workers ever find a fulfilling career, everyone else just works to make money until they die.

I think this bimbo trend is the beginning of a wider revolt among zoomer women against feminism. Feminism can no longer hide its failures, and zoomer women cannot be spooked by horror stories of past female oppression like not being able to open checking accounts, since they have no living memory of it. And even if rights like abortion are taken away, modern technology, like the nearly dozen birth control methods that are available now, will mitigate much of the harm and keep zoomer women from reradicalizing. What do you guys think?
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Incel News Thread
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I fucking hate communists

The more older I become the more I understand just how strong is my urge to murder other communists.

Almost every one of them is some kind of a sperg, an idealist, a dogmoid automaton, a lib, a nationalist, a culture warrior, a grifter, a socialite, I could go on and on.
I can't fucking stand you. Every time I talk to one I imagine him choking on his blood, and this image gives me a relief.

First thing that triggers me immensely is the obsession with philosophy. Every time some idealist sperg mentions dialectics to me it takes me titanic effort to not pick up a chair and bash their head into the nearest wall with it.
Seriously, it got so bad that I sometimes daydream about choking Engels and Hegel with a stupid smile on my face.
I'm now convinced that there can not be such thing as a proletarian philosophy. Philosophy is a mind poison of the ruling classes, always has been, and it poisoned the minds of the leaders of the workers movement due to them all being intellectuals. All according to Marxism lol.
This obsession is so widespread that I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who came to Marxism through the study of history and not through some philosophic elitist drivel. It tells

The second thing is idealism (being an insufferable sperg is closely related). It seems like you just can't expect communists to be pragmatic in this day and age. It's like they are stuck between the Scylla of maximalism and the Charybdis of defeatism. It's either "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!" or "capitalism is actually socialism because they say so". It seems like communists don't have the patience or the mental capacity to just keep fucking grinding to their aims, slowly and methodically, using everyone and everything they can, and patiently waiting for their moment. No, they just NEED to sperg out and express their very important opinion (that 10 out of 10 times is some banal idealism or empty populist platitudes) on every little matter!
At moments like this it usually takes me two to three cigarettes to calm down.

And as we touched on it already, lets discuss the third thing - cheap populism. It is so widespread that I got in more fights over populist rhetoric than over any other thing. It seems like every communist takes his audience for fucking 10-year old kids who can be manipulated by simple tricks. Hey, you know that I can SEE what you are doing? You know we're all adults here? Hey, look me in the fucking eye, do you take me for a fucking idiot bitch? I will string your bowels on a fucking pike!

Yes, I know that our government is against proletariat. Yes, I know that our government doesn't care about human rights if those humans are poor. Yes, I know that our government is militarist. Any more banal platitudes? Do you think you're some fucking preacher that is here to open our eyes or something?
Criticizing - offer. No suggestions - no right to speak. Tattoo these expressions on your retarded fucking head or I will do it. And learn some some fucking rhetoric, sperg. Speak efficiently and concisely, get to the point, respect your audience, don't waste our time, we have lives to live.

Seriously, the only marxist that I can consistently listen to these days without rage quitting is Cockshott, and he is a fucking old fart who sounds like he is gonna die any minute now. But at least he gets to the point and doesn't waste my time, even if he has a tendency to ramble on about his niche stemfaggotry. But I can officially say that he is the least insufferable communist.
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>thinking of gore to ward off mind readers
anyone else do this?
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Ted is dead

Ted Kaczynski died in Prision at the age of 81

<According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Kaczynski was discovered unresponsive in his cell around 12:30 a.m. ET. He was to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead..
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Ukraine 3.0

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.

Pro-Russia sources:

Pro-Ukraine sources:
Everywhere else
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I think we need some female tripfags to orbit

4chan /r9k/ is full of them, why don't we have any?
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mouse in my room

there's a fucking mouse in my room, what do i do?

pretty sure it took a shit and scurried off just as i entered the room again

internet's saying they reproduce fast + carry diseases (which is also on their poop) + urinate

fuck those children's books, fuck Stuart Little, mouse/rat propaganda

the cat was the real hero in Tom and Jerry
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So I took a 1 year break of leftypol and now I see this site, leftychan? Another split? Oh you leftoids, we do you keep splittin all the time? What was the reason this time?
(Sorry for the pic, I'm runnin on 56kbit/s)
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leftypol.org psyop general

Thread dedicated to psychological operations against the leftypol.org administration.

Things to consider:
<The .org mods will read this thread, use this to your advantage
<Posting over your mobile data will arouse less suspicion than over a proxy
<Threads created over an IP with no post history are heavily scrutinized
<Post in /meta/ and try to appeal any mod action against you
<Abuse the report feature
<Use a wide variety of proxy services
<Antagonize individual moderators
<Create as many personas as possible, try to have the mods always chasing a previous persona and not your current one
<The less consistency between the ideological beliefs of your personas the better
<Be consciously aware of your writing style
<Fermenting internal conflict among the mod team is of the upmost importance
<Sow dissent among the userbase whenever possible
<Have fun :)
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Read theory.

I've been reading lots of Nick Land in the last months and his work had convinced me, that I had to reposition my self on the (supposed) contradiction of reality/fiction. I mean, look at our current cyberpunk world, Nick was probably right. The future is cyborg-hybridization. We see how powerful technocapital is. Consider, he wrote this stuff 30 years ago. So the main idea of Land is hyperstition, which basically means, there is no difference between fiction and reality. Keep this mindset and everything you read, everything becomes theory. Yes, THEORY in the leftypol sense. Example: The dimensional merge theory by Chris Chan. Holy shit, could you believe, what kind of based theories this guy is potentially able to write?? Another example: Lately I was playing Splatoon 3 and in the menu, you can read the story of Alterna. Holy shit, this real/fictional theory is so good! A few years ago, I would have called these ideas "schizo" or a "shitpost". But I came to the conclusion, that using these labels are symptoms of reasonable thinking i.e. normie thinking.
Please don't mind the pic, I'm runnin on 56kbit/s.
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schizo or real?
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How to stop this board from being dead
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Post Hentai/Dojins

I see no hentai thread
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Free Assange

Less than 2 hours until Assanges extradition hearing

This will likely decide the fate of Julian Assange who is a journalist that was kidnapped and tortured for his democracy advocacy.

If the UK extradites Assange to his executioners in the US, the UK will declare it self a rogue state.

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According to you, what's the best way to commit suicide?
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How fucked is Argentina ?

How much damage will Javier Milei be able to do ?
He seems to be a US vassal, and a rather unhinged nutcase.
He wants to make children a commodity that can be bought and sold, and give the police, Judge-Dredd style, on the spot judgement/punishment powers.

Will that be like in Bolivia a few years ago where crazy reactionaries got into power and began causing massive upheaval and than quickly got kicked out again.

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Less work equals stronger economy

The Soviets should have reduced the work-day
to 7h by 1965
to 6h by 1975
to 5h by 1985
and finally
to 4h by 1995

4 consequences:

1 The Soviet economy would have been forced to invest into labor-saving/productivity-enhancing technology like crazy to make up for the shrinking per-person labor-inputs. It would have eclipsed the west in industrial power.

2 There is no 90s dissolution/collapse because a shorter work-day means more time to politically organize and make reforms that work.

3 the soviet union would have become an attractive destination for labor, the bottom 40% of the capitalist sphere would have tried to move to the Soviet Union, because they weren't getting much in terms of capitalist luxuries anyway and as soviet citizens would have had a similar life-style with a lot more free time. Less work also means it's easier to raise children for the indigenous soviet population, and by the year 2000 the Soviet Union would have counted half a billion citizens.

4 Incidentally it would have saved social democracy in the west, because the shrinking labor-pool would have maintained the political leverage of western workers, even in the face of industrial offshoring.
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Incel Humor Thread II: Electric Boogaloo

Archive of first Incel Humor Thread:
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Female worship

Women make literal people off themselves. Just like that.

They are Gods.

No wonder primitive-communist societies worshiped Them and we should too, what the actual fuck. Think about it for a second

We have oppressed Them for centuries out of pure jealousy and arrogance but it's time we prepare for the Return of God which is nothing else but the class-less, money-less society where a natural order is restored and human purpose can finally be fulfilled, and that's by dedicating our ENTIRE existence to the very reason of it. For eternity

It's my religion I would DIE for Them, not joking, and that wouldn't even be enough to pay what I owe Them for.
We are all despicable sinners
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malleable software


<Modern computing is far too rigid. Applications can only function in preset ways determined by some far away team. Software is trapped in hermetically sealed silos and is rewritten many times over rather than recomposed.

<This community catalogs and experiments with malleable software and systems that reset the balance of power via several essential principles:

<Software must be as easy to change as it is to use it

<All layers, from the user interface through functionality to the data within, must support arbitrary recombination and reuse in new environments
<Tools should strive to be easy to begin working with but still have lots of open-ended potential
<People of all experience levels must be able to retain ownership and control
<Recombined workflows and experiences must be freely sharable with others
<Modifying a system should happen in the context of use, rather than through some separate development toolchain and skill set
<Computing should be a thoughtfully crafted, fun, and empowering experience

Is this what's missing in the free software strategy ?

A practical example would be Emacs or vim/neovim. While those are really nice, i think you'd need a "malleable" video-game to get more people interested in this concept. I'm having trouble imagining how that would be done. How do you make the sub-components of a video-game re-combinable. How do you make a video-game as easy to change as it is to play it ?
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You need a license to:
- drive a car
- hunt/fish
-own a gun
- vote
- trade
-operate machinery
- do skilled labor

Yet, the most consequential job in the world requires no licensing: RAISING A FAMILY.

Is it any wonder why so many kids turn out all fucked up?
Too many halfass adults feel entitled by virtue of age to have a spouse and offspring.
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You will never have your ethnostate
You will never have that race war
You will never have a tradwife gf
You will never lose your virginity
You will never have a chin
You will never bed a woman
You will never be a man
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how do we stop losing incels to the right?
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towards tech fascism ?

didn't let me post the archive link see pic
<Until recently, tech workers have bristled at applying the fast and nimble start-up ethos to fashion deadly weapons. When Google signed a Pentagon contract to develop AI to target drone strikes, thousands petitioned its CEO in 2018 to cancel it.
<Amid layoffs in tech, the latter has grown appealing. In a Morning Consult survey of 441 tech workers last March, 34 percent they are more likely than they were a year ago to apply their skills to military projects and 48 percent support their employer considering defense contracts involving battlefield technologies.
<“This deep sense of uncertainty about the future that young people have can be molded,” Dey Meyer said.
So the tech-layoffs was to cajole techies into the defense industry.

<Some reject the previous tech era, in particular the protests against Project Maven, Google’s work to target Pentagon drones. This worker dissent ultimately benefited America’s adversaries, former Google researcher Guillaume Verdon said in a recent podcast interview with Joe Lonsdale, a Palantir co-founder and tech investor.

<“What I saw with my own eyes was cultural subversion within Big Tech,” Verdon said.
IMHO This is why it qualifies as fascistic. There are people who simply do not want to build weapons, they are not being subversive, they simply want to build not destroy.
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Is Euphoria cancelled since Israel is getting increasingly unpopular?
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How to truly accept?

Whenever you don't have a job, you are ostracized from society. You literally don't exist.
Why are people like this? Working is fucking miserable.
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You WILL use Pipewire
You WILL use Wayland
You WILL use systemD
You WILL install everything from Flatpak
You WILL use GTK
You WILL NOT have thumbnails in the filepicker
You WILL use btrfs
You WILL accept the code of conduct
And you WILL be happy
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were late 80s good in your country
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This is a good demonstration of women

>He's fun yet 'problematic,' so I'll fuck him whenever he wants

>But his opinions clash with my own retarded worldview, so I won't settle down with him
>(he dodges the bullet)
>Whoever gets sloppy seconds and an LTR with me must share my faggy effeminate worldview
>But those guys don't make my loins tingle, so they'll get once a week duty sex (maybe)
>Many such cases

Leftybros ngmi
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Work day general 2.0

Welcome to the work day general.

Tell us about your day anon. Did you have a good day at work? Its OK we know work is horrible.

I work graves at a factory. If you have it shitty at work I can relate.

Tell us about your day under the crushing weight of the profit motive.
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I got this very rare alunya card today anyone willing to trade it
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On the Current Crisis and the Immediate Tasks of the Western Communists

There is clearly a crisis. The war in Ukraine has shown how industrial production in the Euro-Atlantic bloc is in a state of collapse, and emerging economies are demanding the re-division of the world. The nature of the contemporary crisis is imperialist, because it is about the re-division of the world. The growing tensions in the Middle East to secure the oil-rich maritime area of Gaza after the failure in Ukraine show that the capitalist powers are ready to extend this crisis to the world. The moment the crisis enters Taiwan openly, it will be obvious to everyone that this is a world war.
But in the face of the growing crisis of capitalism, the Euro-Atlantic proletariat seems to be relatively calm. There are no mass revolutionary organisations, revolutionary organisations capable of building the foundations for the dictatorship of the proletariat; the workers' organisations are dominated by religious or patriotic groups. They are usually in alliance with a bourgeois party and so on. They are the police organisations of the bourgeois state. Other organisations are NGOs dominated by liberals. These two are the hidden arm of the ideological discourse that is being fed to the agitated masses. The presence of bourgeois political parties in workers' and other organisations means the domination and spread of (petty)bourgeois habits of thought in their mass base.

The revolutionaries are separated or part of a sect and feel safe in their bubble. This is a symptom of the intellectual who calls himself a revolutionary. In times of peace and debate, when the concrete task is propaganda and education, the intellectual is more than welcome if he adapts himself to the needs of his pupils and does not impose knowledge by repetition. But when the movement takes a turn in the other direction, from the peaceful to the preparation for open struggle, the intellectual is afraid of this change. They prefer to stick to their dying sects, carry out symbolic revolutionary actions for other like-minded intellectuals and call it a day for the time being. They refuse to cooperate consistently with the emerging movement.

A clear example of the lack of consistency is this moment. The protests against Israel on behalf of the Palestinians have mobilised many progressive people into the ranks of the anti-war front and given new impetus to anti-imperialism. The sheer relative size of the movement compared to the small number of self-proclaimed revolutionary organisations will lead to the rise and revival of many organisations. But if the leaders do not allow the newly mobilised (and among them very young!) to learn how to organise, that is, if they do not allow new ones to emerge (I am talking here about different tactics, organisation, theoretical debate, etc.), and if the newly mobilised are constantly forced to blindly follow the existing leadership, so as not to be beyond the organisations of the professional revolutionaries (don't laugh!), then everything will quickly come to a grinding halt, and the historic moment will not be seized

One of our immediate tasks is to democratise the established organisations with the help of new members (radicalised by the general crisis) who will have learned a communist understanding of history. Comrades in the organisations should make sure that they are the first to call for this democratisation. The communist should see that this influx of members works in his favour, that he can use revolutionary sympathies to take over key sectors of the organisation with this sympathetic majority. This means: education, propaganda and agitation. We must teach them the Bolshevik method, we must show them what a Bolshevik organisation means, and they must all know how to agitate. Of course, some will be better at one or the other. That is the point of being organised, because organisation is only a tool that allows us to deploy our human resources in the best possible way.

Comrades, including workers, must be made aware of the work of socialist organisations through public debates of comrades or delegates of organisations which are regularly organised around a specific theme which needs to be illuminated. Open ideological struggle and the crystallisation of a general sense of revolutionary optimism is the immediate task of our socialists. Comrades are invited to discuss all problems with them. Organisations active in these discussions should try to abandon petty intellectualising. They will find it really difficult to win over workers if they can hardly convince a fellow-traveller!

Bolshevization also means being able to articulate clearly and as precisely as possible the pressing issue we face and a concrete approach to it. Clarity will always triumph over conspiracy. The foundations for a revolutionary mass party must be laid in the next few years. This can only be done if the movement abandons the involuntary Blanquism which is the indirect consequence of the intellectualisation of the leadership.
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Thank you Ana Montes

>“Montes betrayed our nation, but not for money. In fact, she never received payment for any of her actions – astonishingly, she was motivated purely by hatred for America,” Rubio wrote in an op-ed penned for Americano Media.

‘Queen of Cuba’ spy released from US jail
Ana Montes, described as “one of the most damaging spies” in US history, has been released from federal prison in Texas. The double agent for Cuba was freed on Friday after more than 20 years in custody, data on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website shows.

Montes, now 65, made a solid career with the US government, initially working for the US Department of Justice before joining the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) back in 1985. She ultimately became a senior intelligence analyst for Cuba –even scoring a nickname the ‘Queen of Cuba’– and worked in this role until her arrest in 2001, days after the 9/11 attacks.

It turned out that Montes had been spying for Cuba throughout her whole government career, as she had been recruited by that country’s intelligence when she was a student at Johns Hopkins University. Officials at the time said it was believed that the Cuban Intelligence Service (CIS) had pushed her to pursue the DIA career in the first place.

As a double agent, Montes is believed to have funneled highly-sensitive information to the CIS for nearly two decades. According to federal charging documents, Montes was very careful, never taking classified information from her work computer but memorizing it instead, as well as using water-soluble, easy to destroy paper to deliver the data to her Cuban handlers.

According to the Bush-era US Counterintelligence head Michelle Van Cleave, Montes has become “one of the most damaging spies the United States has ever found,” who has compromised “virtually everything” Washington knew about Cuba.

In 2002, Montes pleaded guilty to espionage charges which could have carried the death penalty for her, yet was ultimately sentenced to 25 years in prison under a plea deal. According to her lawyers, Montes was primarily motivated for spying by a belief that “the Cubans were treated unfairly by the US government.”

Commenting on the release of Montes, Republican hardliner Senator Marco Rubio urged Americans to remember the double agent “for who she really is,” suggesting that she should not be forgiven, even after serving her sentence.

“Montes betrayed our nation, but not for money. In fact, she never received payment for any of her actions – astonishingly, she was motivated purely by hatred for America,” Rubio wrote in an op-ed penned for Americano Media.

On her release, Montes is set to remain under supervision for five years, according to her sentence. She will be banned from working for government or contacting ‘foreign agents’ without special permission, while internet access will be closely monitored by the authorities.
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Leftypol Stoners

Any interest in a stoner thread?

I usually smoke with my bf and he's not really political, it'd be nice to have a place to discuss thoughts or just discuss stoner shit in general
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People in their thirties be like:


And yet they still whinr about boomers yet wanna use the midlife crisis card to prove their seniority.

Theyre in their third decade of adolescence.
The average postmodern adult in their thirties and forties is hairy chubby adolescent character.
Look at our contet creators amd demographics of toy collectors.
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I could never understand

freaks and weirdos there’s girls that go to them too.
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i don't even know where to post this, im so desperate yet knowing fully that there is no cure.

i have ADHD.

i have this thing where there is X-thing that i cannot let my hand touch. if it does than it is "contaminated" (in my head)there for i must wash it or make it clean in my head. other things (household items and door and etc) could be touched by X-thing or my hand when it was "contaminated". and when it does i have to wash that thing or make it clean in my head. because the same rule when i touched x-thing applied.

i have the thing where it makes you forgot what you are doing seconds ago.

i have also "the thing" like above but far worse and is like having a evil voice in your head gaslighting and manipulating and lying about you yourself to harm you.

now done with background.
now for the real problem.

i like to do web archive of thread on CBIB's (leftypol and things alike) and also just saving web things in general. no, not in a internet hisorian or lost media or youtuber kind of way, far from it (saving web things in leftypolnco people kind of way). in one of those thread it have a epub file. so i use Calibre to open it. i not only use the "open with calibre opener" option but i also use the "open with calibre" option which creates the problem. using the "open with calibre" option open the main program. not the epub opener, but the main program. because i panick that something will happend with the file threr for making the archive inperfect, i cancel the loading that pop up in the main calibre program. but i took too long for canceling the loading thing because i panicked and overthink and question myself wheter or not i shuld cencel it or not. there for i cancel the download when its in the midle (+10% or something i don't remember).when i open the epub file it is error and i can't open it. yes i already try using the calibre epub opener and program other then calibre, it fail to open to. detour this is how i keep (some) files in my hardrive(:C): have a main loby -> have a sub loby that in this context is for "important things" -> this is where i keep the folder -> for folder(s) -> that eventually lead to the folder that have said problematic archive. now that i already tell how the files organize, return to tour. i eventually had a bright idea to replace the broken epub with a working version. so i copy a working version said broken epub to the sub-loby. then i copy again that epub, this time to replace the broken epub. it worked, i can now open the epub. but another problem float up in my head. i try to fight it but i can't. i now think that the archive that i have fixed is broken, even tho i have just fixed it seconds ago. more than that, and this one is a bigger problem. i now think that the entire sub-loby is "corrupted", imperfect, broken, altered and will spread it's imperfect and broken and altered status to other file and the new sub-loby i want to create if i want to replace the entire sub-loby with a new one. because i put the working epub for fixing the broken epub archive part. but it doesn't matter since i will just think like that wheter i put the working epub in the sub-loby or not. wheter i want to just move the file to the hypothetical new sub-loby or copy it to the hypothetical new sub-loby it is the same, the "muh corruption" thinking will linger and the new sub-loby, wheter it's just moving the files or copy the files, will just be "corrupted" and will spread to any new archive/files i add long after the new sub-loby is created. this "thinking" later spread to everything outside the sub-loby and now i think that the entire loby now is "corrupted". and it later too, also spread to my :D harddrive becoming corrupted to because that's where i save 100+ videos. and soon i will give up because internally screaming and internally being angry hurt my brain and make me sick.
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Since most anons here seem clueless about what masculinity actually is, and only seem comfortable posturing about what it isn't, I thought I'd help you.

>The Way of Men

>By Jack Donovan

Read this and maybe (no promises) it will help exorcise the faggy zeitgeist from your skinnyfat body.

While most of you probably won't be able to handle this book (due to deeply engrain ego attachment to muhleftism), a small percentage might. This is for that latter minority.
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kosa is back

This is the bill for censoring, doing online child indoctrination and destroying privacy via invasive age-verification. If you live in the US go bug a politician about this or something.

Read this for a non-oversimplified version

The assaults of freedom of expression and privacy are relentless.

Maybe the legal strategies are wrong. Maybe the default assumption should be that privacy and free expression rights are violated unless technical-systems as well as organizations do something to uphold privacy and free expression. Free expression and privacy as a feature that has to be added.
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public education and child labor laws are a bourgeois tool of population control 


Ok, give me 1 legitimate, material, non moralistic or idealistic reason for why child labor should be banned?

Current system where people spend 11 years in school + 4-5-8 years in university, is nothing more but a way to indoctrinate children into clerical PMC identity, where all you have to do is write the right thing on paper and you're golden. Not to mention the anticommunist propaganda that constitutes school education material in capitalist states.
Such a system destroys class consciousness and perpetuates false, clerical consciousness:
Even if both the parents are working class, the school system trains their child to act, think and identify as a PMC (writing papers and dealing with bureaucracy to succeed).

Let's not forget the bourgeois origins of universal education: the british bourgeois state needed clerics, accountants, educated managers, etc., to fill the ranks of the bourgeois war machine.
Pink Floyed made an entire album about this.

Whereas if children started doing labor immediately, they would develop worker identity just like their working class parents, instead of PMC identity, and then develop class consciousness, simply through the act of being workers rather than going through 15 years of PMC LARP indoctrination.

Everything harmful, reactionary, and counterrevolutionary that the youth learns, they learn in school, through bourgeois education systems that feed them status quo propaganda.
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>Ummm high yeah sweaty sorry
>We know you are struggling to acquire a living wage for your very necessary societal labor that our whole society actually needs to function properly, but, how about you actually just get back to work you fucking uyghur slave

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Operation inside job

The leftypol.org staff are holding enrollment to join the staff. It would cause quite a lot of ass hurt if some one were to get involved and sabotage the jannies. All you need is post history and most people here are very familiar with leftist talking points. I think this is a unique chance to fuck some shit up. Everyone here knows the jannies there are massive faggots and deserve the shit they have coming. We should make it so they cannot sleep at night.
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United States historical figures that had significant influence and were leftists?

What american historical figures were leftists and did something major? First people that come to mind are Oppenheimer and Helen Keller. Anyone else?
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Should we try to get /leftypol/ nuked so everyone migrates here?
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Someone b trolling us.

They're kind of a pseud though.
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>Question for the Christcuck spammer

Why is that Christian countries are filled with homos and have mentally deranged roasties trooning out kids in preschools, whilst Muslim countries won't even tolerate gay pride demonstrations. Wouldn't this seem to suggest that Islam is superior and Christianity is for spineless wimps?
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robo managers

<A video game company that appointed an artificial intelligence bot as its chief executive has announced a market-beating stock increase.
<China-based NetDragon Websoft named the AI program Tang Yu as its CEO in August, tasked with supporting decision making for the company’s daily operations.


This specific case might be mostly a PR stunt, but it could be that the managerial strata in the corporate bureaucracy gets replaced by robots before the proles do.

What does that mean for Socialism ?
Will this make it easier to convert the economy to something like cybernetic socialism ?
Since it's all in the computer anyway, it just needs to be reconfigured a bit ?
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Eugenics, can it be a left-wing policy?

Well, I've been thinking about this issue, which is quite delicate for obvious reasons, and I think that eugenics is not necessarily a policy of the left or the right, but it depends on how it is applied.

To begin with, it must be said that eugenics is nothing more than favoring certain biological characteristics over others for future generations, it could be said that it is a form of self-managed evolution, it has a bad reputation because when it was applied in countries like the United States or the Nazi Germany what was intended was to exterminate populations considered inferior, however, is this the only form of eugenics?

If 20, 30, 40 or even 100 years from now, genetics were mastered well enough to be able to modify the DNA of an embryo with minimal risk, couldn't this be used to improve our species? Couldn't dozens if not hundreds of genetic diseases be exterminated? Couldn't we design children who grow up to be healthier, stronger and more intelligent? And if that were the case, couldn't a public eugenics program be promoted? that is to say, that couples who are interested can access a genetic modification program to promote these beneficial characteristics in their future child. Wouldn't this be a kind of "socialist eugenics"?

I believe that eventually it is inevitable that genetic modification of embryos will become commonplace, and therefore it is important that the idea of ​​public eugenics be promoted, otherwise only people with enough money to pay for these programs could access to them, and that would eventually lead to a much more evident caste system than the current one, where the rich are practically supermen with advantages that allow them to dominate the labor and scientific market while the poorest classes would be relegated to occupying a position increasingly irrelevant in society.

Anyway, I'd like to discuss the matter because I find it interesting.
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>you can have no friends and be a socialist
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I don't know if there is ever a perfect time to announce this so here we go:

I've been working on some updates to the site. Before you get excited this shouldn't affect you as the user directly, it's more about tooling to help the mods out with spam content.

The test site https://dev.leftychan.net is updated with a work in progress of leftychan's first major update. If you're a moderator I urge you to check it out, you will find there's a new link on your dashboard, as well as a change to the ban page.

The dev site is now running php 8.1 (before we were running 7.4) and twig 3.x which AFAIK makes leftychan the most up-to-date library-wise out of the vichan forks.

There's a new spam filter in place that I've named SpamNoticer. I hope that when posting it stays out of your way, I've gone to significant lengths to ensure a small amount of false-positives. However if you test and find annoying behaviour that falsely flags your post as spam it would help if you tell us. Actually my hope is that we can even lower some of the rate limits with this in place.

The SpamNoticer database (for the dev site) is exposed read-only publically at https://dev-pgrest-spam.leftychan.net/ which is a new api that we can have thanks to postgrest. It will not rightnow serve up the original images though, just metadata about what was posted, determined to be spam, blocked and why.

Mods, you'll find that the ban/delete page(s) have been changed slightly to let you manually tell the system that a certain posts's content should be blocked. There's also a link to the UI on the mod dashboard.

The purpose of announcing this publically is the hope that we can make sure existing functionality is not broken, and posting content is not hindered by the new software. The UI is completely a sketch, and is incomplete, so I would expect to have feature requests in that area, but I think it's at the point where it can be tested in terms of usefullness. And of course to validate the design in terms of usefullness.

Picture unrelated.
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Imperialist cuck troopers

Being a soldier in the imperialist army is just a big humiliation ritual designed to break one's spirit.

>The grey UCP camo pattern US Army issued to troops in the middle east. Looks stupid and obviously does not work as camo. oh yeah and it's made of plastic to make sure it gets really hot and unbearable in the desert
>How US soldiers are taught to stand when shooting their rifle. Very imbalanced and not an effective fighting stance. Self-defeating
>army combat boot. hot, heavy, big heel, literally designed to give knee injuries and twisted ankles. meanwhile the ziomercs are fighting dudes who wear comfy sandals or go barefoot, the correct footwear for the terrain
>medical experimentation and forced muzzling. troops get injected with tons of shit that's not even legal to give to civilians. by the end of their service their health is in ruins.
>boot camp. have to put up with and get yelled at by a loser psychopath while eating shit food and taking no proper rest days. just one big MKULTRA hazing ritual.
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- Guns You Can Buy General -
Post guns that you want to buy or have already. Eurocucks welcome as is discussion of regulation.
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Mind Game Anime

Hello. I want some anime that have people attempting to outsmart each other as a major part of the show. I already watched Death Note, Code Geass, Hyouka, Classroom of the Elite, Kaiji, Akagi, No Game No Life (some of it was nonsense, but some of it was really impressive), The Promised Neverland, Legend of the Galactic Heroes (I am mentioning this one even though it wasn't mainly focused on mind games so nobody suggests it anyway), One Outs, Talentless Nana, Kakegurui and Zankyou no Terror (it focused on mind games at the start). Please tell me of more mind game anime.
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Wholesome Incest Anime

I want anime focused on siblings being in love and entering a happy romantic relationship. I don't want a lust filled relationship; if there is any lust between the siblings I want the lust involved to be very small. I don't care about blood relation but I want the couple to have lived as siblings before they entered a relationship.
I saw Oreimo, Candy Boy, Eromanga Sensei (though it had much fanservice, the siblings had little to no sexual activity or thoughts; though I'd prefer anime without much fanservice) and Boku wa Imouto ni Koi o Suru (though there was some lust, it was a small part of the O.V.A.). Is there anything more?
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Rotten fruit

Apple on course to break all Web Apps in EU

<Apple looks to be taking active and provocative steps to scuttle Web Apps and to prevent other browsers from providing them. This suggests that Apple is still fearful of a future where users and developers can simply bypass Apple’s App Store using the power of the Web.


It's strange that I feel compelled to defend the free market. But people need to have free choice of what programs they can install and while were at it also free choice for Operating systems as well as sources for spare-parts


needs to go.

Iphones will probably get banned in the EU for this. And maybe that's the plan, to resurrect Nokia as a premium smartphone brand. I don't know if bans are the best method, a more elegant solution would be to subsidize jail-break services.
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It's Friday Night Boyos.

Whatcha' eatin'
Whatcha' watchin'
Whatcha' playin'
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Bets for WW3?
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is his life over?
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not really /ga/ post

i did an interesting experiment yesterday

it is based on this article :

or rather the data from the article

i did just calcualtions on how many passive labor / investment / land you need to sustain yourself with absolute minimum

if you have other provided to you (that is here : land (with no taxes), some tools, and maybe other things)

and if you already have some capital maybe

and the result was rather interesting, you need about 33 buckets / or about 5.5x5.5 m land to sustain yourself in absolute minimum

thats just very rough estimate

and the investments cost is about 30 euro (for buckets)
and that rather paid once

i did not calculate the labour cost, because this is rather minimum labor but also i would rather do that in code (maybe in limited 2d version)

would be nice if you could simulate some retarded region with some land given to you (for free) to experiments
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socialism will win !

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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Supersocialist alternative

>Equality is fake and ghey – Cohesion and freedom is based

All of reality and life is defined by distinction and competition. There’s nothing, ever, which is perfectly equal. Thus, as a teleological goal, equality will always fall sort of its promise and usual function as a golden calf of some slave morality – at best.

Support more equality and repudiate the steep politically reinforced inequalities of today.

However, the end is creating nice, high trust societies, where people are free to pursue higher efforts.

>Excellence Teleological goal

Human individual and collective excellence and capability is the goal. We want to create the red superman and transform humanity into a united galactic master race

>Historical Materialism and neo-fuedalism

People talking about neo feudalism and tributary economics have a more accurate and useful framework for conceiving modern political economy than many others on the so called left, including so called Marxists.

>Broad, popular coalition building + Elite ethic

Populist socialism with national characteristics is based. Similarly, there needs to built a new social hierarchy based around meticulously maintained standards of meritocratic and moral character.

>Antifragile Supersocialism

Socialism does not seek to end competition and conflict in everyday life. Instead, it seeks to promote and facilitate such into useful directions. It embraces short term pain, struggle, and challenges, in principle, as a means of inculcating greatness and avoiding he prolific atrophy and rot of the modern world.
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Andrew Tates

Now that this criminal faggot finally got arrested his flocks of incel fans are super butthurt, claiming that GAHWD will avenge daddy who dindu nuffin.
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Nuclear War

The nuclear threat is back. But we don't see any nuclear panic like in the 1980s. Why is that? Why does nobody care?

I am not some prepper retard but even I am getting nervous.

Just look at this shit
A time of unprecedented danger: It is 90 seconds to midnight
>This year, the Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists moves the hands of the Doomsday Clock forward, largely (though not exclusively) because of the mounting dangers of the war in Ukraine. The Clock now stands at 90 seconds to midnight—the closest to global catastrophe it has ever been.
>As UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres warned in August, the world has entered “a time of nuclear danger not seen since the height of the Cold War.”

and also this
US Nuclear Test Raises Concerns of New Arms Race With Russia


>The US conducted a high-explosive experiment at a nuclear test site in Nevada just hours after Russia revoked a ban on atomic-weapons testing, prompting concerns of a new arms race between the world’s top nuclear powers.

So, are you going to PROTECT AND SURVIVE, anon? Or are you just going to give up everything and die?
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Them vs. U.S.: The Two Americas* and How the Nation’s Elite Is Out of Touch with Average Americans


The survey is a first-of-its-kind look at the views of the American Elite – defined as people having at least one post-graduate degree, earning at least $150,000 annually, and living in high-population density areas (more than 10,000 people per square mile in their zip code) – and compares them to what the average American thinks. The Elites represent 1% of the U.S. population but have an outsized voice on public policy in the United States, with their views seeming somehow to dominate the national conversation. This may be because it is the Elites themselves who determine what that conversation will be about on campus, in the legacy media, and corporate board rooms. Not surprisingly, these people talk about politics far more than most Americans. The data show that nearly a third of them (30%) talk about politics daily or almost every day. Just 9% of the voting public do. It is worth noting that members of the Elites who talk about politics daily have views that are even further removed from the opinions of the voting public. This is true even when the Elites self-identify as Republicans. They typically may be more conservative than Elite Democrats but they still have attitudes and opinions that are far removed from those of the typical American voter. The Elite class – regardless of party – is an exclusive club that sees and experiences America through a different lens than ordinary Americans.

These results confirm what people have long suspected: today, there are two Americas. One is wealthier, more highly educated, and attended the best schools. They put much more trust in big government “to do the right thing” and, by their own admission, benefit from more expansive government policies. They have also been hurt far less by the high inflation of the Biden presidency than those who live from paycheck to paycheck and are in the lower and middle classes.

This Grand Canyon-sized chasm between where every day Americans stand on the state of the country, expanding government power, draconian climate change solutions, and Joe Biden’s job performance may partly explain the Donald Trump phenomenon and his high approval ratings among working-class voters, who feel wholly connected with the rebellion against the arrogance of the ruling class Elites.

(If you want to see how a pro does class analysis, see “The Idea That the Republicans Can Become “The Party of The Working Class” Is Beyond Absurd.” The Bearded One’s starting point: “the identity of revenues and sources of revenue” (to simplify: wages? capital? salary? rent?). The CUPS staff and Rasmussen use income and credentials — a reasonable proxy to separate the working class from the PMC, but totally incapable of sorting for capital (and that’s not a bug, but a feature). Now, as far as cultural and political markers go, Rasmussen is useful. But never forget that its analysis is structurally flawed (and as this circulates out into the Republican FlexNet, watch for it. Of course, the Democrats don’t even have anything this good, being consumed by identity politics, designed to erase class even more thoroughly than Rasmussen did). Handy chart:
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Raid Infrared

we should raid infrared reddit/twitter/fbi.gov

1) its easy to make them flip out and it will be lulz
2) we need to steer people away from that grifting retard Haz

some easy things to make them seethe daily:

Simply post "strikes are direct action"
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>Edward Said
>Frantz Fanon
>Michel Foucault
The fathers of Soycialism who ruined leftism in the west. there collective faggotry spearing to generations of leftists.
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We need to raid some nazi forums

Seeing how more and more people are leaving .org by the day and we are growing in popularity we should do something fun as a group and raid some nazi forms and target some nazoids.
I unfortunately am a brain let and lack knowledge of Nazoid forms other than 4chan so does anyone have any good ideas for any targets?
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<How to Grow Leftychan
>A Tactical Guide

First, the why.

Why grow Leftychan?

Some of you fags honestly ask

The reason is simple. It’s a fun place to post about and read metadiscussion on the left. I like to post there, and I want more people to come and read my shit and effort posts.

and you fuckers needs to pick up the slack

It’s that simple.

>How To

Simply put, post more about things you think are interesting. Reply to discussion. Stir and spike emotions. Repeat

>What to post:

The golden ratio:

<4/10 complete shit posts

<4/10 news, of interest, question posts
<1/10 something completely irrelevant or irreverent (Collagenmaxxxing)
<1/10 effortposts

Don’t waste time making a bunch of long effortposts. Those should literally be one tenth of what you post. This isn’t Jacofag Magazine.

9/10 of what you post should take you less than 10-15 minutes (max) to post. Much of it is shitposting on different levels.

Don’t treat everything as serious. This is an image board, after all.

On the other hand, if you don’t have an interest in a niche topic, keep discussing it. (The technology posts are a great example)

Keep in mind the 80/20 principle. 20% of what you post will drive 80% of replies.

>How to post:

There is an art to shitposting:

<Always be challenging assumptions.

<Point out hypocrisies
<Stir emotions
<Use evocative language
<Point out conflicts (people vs people, between people and ideas, people and systems, between ideas and reality)

Of course, as it’s an image board, it should also function as metadiscussion on the left.

ask not what leftychan can do for you, ask what you can do for leftychan
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<Does he have a point?
I've never read any of his books, but from what I understand, one of his central thesis goes like this:
>People with exceptionally disordered lives, who can't even manage to keep their own personal space tidy and clean, have a 0% chance of reorganizing the world for the better.

This strikes me as true. When I was more into activism, some of the most high and mighty r-r-r-revolutionaries had exceptionally disordered lives. Some of them couldn't even operate a vacuum cleaner (literally comical to watch them try). Or, more commonly, they would leave dirty dishes that their housemates had to clean. Yet, at the same time, they honestly believed that if they had control, they would somehow make a better world. It struck me at the time as rather arrogant and somewhat detestable. This has me wondering, regardless of whatever else Peterson is saying, does he have a point about the unfounded narcissism of some people of the left, especially those who can't even manage their own lives in a semi-self sufficient and positive way. Are we really to believe that those whose own personal space is in shambles would somehow do a better job if only they had more tasks and responsibilities, despite the fact that they fail at minor personal responsibilities?

If so, what are the political implications of this? How does this relate to organizing, the vanguard, etc?
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Thread for Undertale and Deltarune discussion! Post theories, art and bad AU's!

Official Websites:

Official Twitter (news may get posted here):

Toby's Twitlonger on Deltarune:
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>why are the Yemeni people so based???

Vaxxies BTFO eternally
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What are you idiots cooking this weekend?
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Chinese Century Thread /CCT/

This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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What do Twitter and Leftychan have in common?

Both of them got taken over by free speech retards. And this extreme free speech backfired and now they're dying website, of course Leftychan is dead as fuck not so much Twitter - yet…
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>Leftypol.org welcome thread

Since orgfags (pic related) are coming over in droves, let's welcome them.

<Hey guys. Leave your baggage, cat ears, and dilators at the door!
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Valentine's Day Reading:
>The 16 commandments of poon
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/Leftypol L General/

ITT we highlight the funniest and most pathetic moments from .ogre
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Ageism against the elderly/boomers is leftist. People are living too long and because of that, they're retaining power longer. People always become conservatives when they reach old age and boomers as a generation stole from millennials and zoomers. Old people are all evil.
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It's that day again

Whatcha doing this val's?
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How bad is Spotify?

It's a bourgeoise vice, but I really like it. I hate having to search all over the web to pirate albums, organize those albums in my desktop, and transfer transfer both to my phone and laptop from my desktop. Spotify just makes the process so much easier. I can listen from any device I want. I want to add some songs to my playlist? I search it up and add it in a matter of seconds. I want to share music? I copy a link and send it over in seconds. Spotify has 99% of the music I listen to and I don't even listen to mainstream stuff.

Should I really make the effort to switch back to pirating? Should I stop prioritizing comfort over data security? What does /tech/ think?
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Topicality on /leftypol/

What should be the limits of topicality on /leftypol/?

I ask because lately some users have been making threads that seem to have nothing to do with politics. One could make an argument that, ultimately, everything is political. But if that's the case, what differentiates /leftypol/ from /b/?
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How come people don't want to work hard?
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Were hormone injections and bottom surgery a scam all along?
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I graduated as a software engineer but all jobs and technology seem geared towards making the capitalist class richer, surveilling the people and overexploiting the resources of the earth even harder, should I switch careers and become a unabombing tech hater or can I actually get a job that is at least isn't in a corporation making the world infinitely worse than it already is?
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leftypol target by feds?

You know, looking back at the split cycles and looking back at how insane the jannies at org are currently what does chan think of the possibility that leftypol.org was the target of CIA/FBI infiltration / divide and conquer? I mean, look, we know the FBI intentionally will go after hacker forums like Raid Forums who are doing grey market shit, but, I don't think it's beyond rationality to think that a website as HUGE and influential as bunkerchan was during its heyday from being targeted by the Feds. In-fact, I would say it makes perfect sense.
Look at the current state of org and tell me it's not glowing brighter than the surface of the sun. I think it makes perfect sense that the FBI would want to get something like org under control and foreign agencies have already targeted us in the past.
So what do you think anons? Fact or fiction?
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BPA causes autism

It's transgenerational, too. How fucked are we?
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It’s time to admit that genes are not the blueprint for life

>The view of biology often presented to the public is oversimplified and out of date. Scientists must set the record straight, argues a new book.
>For too long, scientists have been content in espousing the lazy metaphor of living systems operating simply like machines, says science writer Philip Ball in How Life Works. Yet, it’s important to be open about the complexity of biology — including what we don’t know — because public understanding affects policy, health care and trust in science. “So long as we insist that cells are computers and genes are their code,” writes Ball, life might as well be “sprinkled with invisible magic”. But, reality “is far more interesting and wonderful”, as he explains in this must-read user’s guide for biologists and non-biologists alike.
>When the human genome was sequenced in 2001, many thought that it would prove to be an ‘instruction manual’ for life. But the genome turned out to be no blueprint. In fact, most genes don’t have a pre-set function that can be determined from their DNA sequence.
>Instead, genes’ activity — whether they are expressed or not, for instance, or the length of protein that they encode — depends on myriad external factors, from the diet to the environment in which the organism develops. And each trait can be influenced by many genes. For example, mutations in almost 300 genes have been identified as indicating a risk that a person will develop schizophrenia…..

Genetics is pseudoscience.
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Remember when flags where cool?

Anyone remember that? What happened?
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Based Elon moment
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papers please


This guy did a decent video, on an attempt at introducing a internet ID-law
<government ID for accessing a website (initially porn-sites).

It's hiding behind deceptive legislative speak.
<think of the children while we attack your civil liberties

Big tech companies apparently are supporting this.
<so it might spread to other parts of the internet as well

Obviously none of these people really care about the welfare of children, or else we'd be living in a very different world. They might be targeting porn because they think it's a way to get a foot in the door for an ID-access-wall. Or they might actually be trying to identify people's porn habits in order to facilitate discrimination based on sexuality. Even if that's not the intention right now, it'll definitely be the result. We don't live in a dark age theocratic society where the church regulates sex, because it's currently not possible. All the puritanical bullshit will come flooding back the moment it becomes possible. Every ruling class seeks to control sex.

The Internet ID stuff will get hacked so even if you're a gullible fool that believes in this.
<think of all the identity theft

Obviously there will always be a technical way to bypass this, which means that it would also be an incentive for people to level up their tech skills. Even if most people end up doing that and this flops, it's still dystopian nightmare fuel that somebody is trying to make this happen.

Obviously online ID verification is not compatible with either privacy or freedom of expression.
It's a lever for governments to track or censor people based on their ID-logins. In principle it shouldn't be possible to make these laws in the first place because they're not compatible with legal-root-documents (US-constitution/bill of rights for example) in most countries.
There are a surprising amount of stateless people that can't get IDs, it would be beyond cruel to cut these people off.

Maybe it's time to abolish IDs altogether. It certainly was useful for the analog-age but maybe not for the digital age. It's not difficult to make all the public services function without identifying people. (I have thought this through and will elaborate on request)

We still should answer the question about brotecting the children, even if this is not related to this topic.
There would be foundational questions

should children be separated from adults ?
<Whats the evidence pro and contra ?

Shouldn't this be the responsibility of the parents ?
<Like setting up parental control systems, and paying attention what children do online.

Should we bring back offline childhood ?
<No screens until 6yrs
<Only LAN-parties until 12yrs
<Should we give children a computer with a very simple "retro" architecture ?

Simple computers are not capable of doing anything that could harm children, so there is no need to shackle it in any way, so it'll be a fun toy that gets played with not a boring educational prop that ends up in a drawer. It should still be capable enough to teach children the fundamentals of computing.
For example something like this
(I'm not knowledgeable about retro computing, and I'm linking this project because it's the only one i know about)
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2 noteworthy apple stories

Apple VR-head-set released.

They really nailed the virtual monitor function, you can connect the VR-headset to a apple laptop and it will simulate a large monitor in front of you. Very stable, clear and low latency.

However it's shackled to the apple fiefdom walled garden crap, so most people can't use it. It also comes with a proprietary connector. It has a bunch of superfluous crap, like a front-screen that shows your eyes and loads of gimmicks people will play with for a bit and then never use again.

Overall they delivered a really good purchasable tech-demo, if some other company can strip out all the gimmicks to reduce the price and make it work with a universal standard, it could really enable people to have a large monitor without having to deal with a bulky table-top rectangle.

The EU market regulators have begun cracking Apple's platform monopoly on IPhones. The ideological part about why this might be happening is likely because Apple is able to prevent 2 people from engaging in trade, and therefore the EU regulators are trying to force Apple to allow app side-loading as a means of negating that.

Apple however is not complying. Which was very predictable. So I'm wondering whether it might be intentional, as a setup for something else, and apple is playing it self.
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Cheaters in gaming

DT misses the main dynamic why so many cheat in online games.

It's basically like an arms-race cascade.
Somebody makes the first move by making a game-hack and going online to "cheat-bully" a bunch of other players. They don't consider this unfair or petty, because they had the skill to make the cheat-program and technically they use their own skill to beat the other players. Obviously those other players do not see it that way, and some of them will make their own cheat-programs or pay somebody to do it, so they can cheat-retaliate. They want to be ready, the next time somebody cheat-bullies them, so they can switch on their cheat-program and even the score. They will also use their cheat-program against regular players, maybe because they mistake somebodies luck as cheating. And then more people get annoyed at this and that sets off an expanding cheat-wave. The reason why this is so unstoppable is because countering cheaters with cheats is rational behavior on an individual level (game-theory: retaliation in kind), it is only irrational on a collective level.

Developing anti-cheat software is not a effective method to fix this problem, it's just containment to keep it at bay. Anti-cheat software isn't even intended to solve the problem, it's only intended to counter-act it. That's the business-model. If they make an effective solution that fixes this problem once and for all, they won't have repeat customers. It's also very plausible that the people making the anti-cheat-software are also the ones making the cheat-software. After-all the most profitable way to exploit a conflict is to supply both sides with "weapons".

There is a simple solution.
Step 1 A server-side algorithm measures the primary skill characteristics of the game
Step 2 Sort people so they play against others with a similar skill level.
Step 3 All the cheaters will register as having a superhuman-skill-level and sort them self into a few cheater-servers.
Step 4 Non cheaters will register as having a human-skill-level sort them self into the non-cheater serveres.
Problem solved
People who want to cheat for the sake of hacking the game as a programming challenge can do that, people who want to play fair will not be bothered. Only Assholes that seek to ruing the fun for others will loose out.

So shooter-games for example one would measure aiming-accuracy and reaction-time. People who use aim-bots would measure as having really high accuracy and super-short reaction-time, and there would be no need to determine whether or not somebody is cheating and no risk of false-positives. The objective server-side measurements will reliably sort the cheaters into the cheater-corner, where they can continue one-upping each other until they have fully automated playing the game and can get hired by game-companies to build really advanced non-player-bots. Everybody else will have a pleasant experience playing the game as intended against players with a similar skill-level.

Thank you for attending my Ted talk on first-world problems
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That's a man.
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>smoking on a crowded train
Why didn't New York City execute Castro?
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neuralink should have this cyber bussy thing from eXistenZ
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anyone else dislike milfs? Christina Hendricks literally looks like my grandma
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Site-Wide Feedback Thread
Complain about bans and other meta related things

Board Logs
View different board logs by changing the end of the url
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/football/ General

transfer window edition
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>tfw the government put me on a list so i only match with BPD chicks on dating apps
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>bodycount of 40 at 18 yo
Do zoomer women really?
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Venezuela building up troops on Guyana border, satellite images show

Aerial evidence follows months of President Nicolás Maduro ramping up claim to Essequibo region

Venezuela is expanding military bases near its border with Guyana and deploying forces to the jungle frontier as President Nicolás Maduro ramps up his threats to annex the country’s oil-rich neighbour, satellite images have revealed.

Maduro pledged at mediation talks in December not to take military action against his neighbour but images shared by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington today suggest a buildup of forces.

Christopher Hernandez-Roy, deputy director of CSIS’s Americas programme, said: “The same day that the Venezuelan foreign minister is meeting with Guyanese diplomats, the Venezuelan military is conducting tank drills just a stone’s throw from Guyana. All of this tells us Maduro is pursuing a duplicitous policy.”

Venezuela has long laid claim to the resource-rich Essequibo region, which makes up two-thirds of Guyana, but Maduro has ramped up the country’s claim to the disputed territory in recent months.

After months of campaigning, the country held a vote in December in which Maduro said the Venezuelan people backed the country to take the vast swathe of jungle by force.

The aerial shots show that while Venezuelan diplomats subsequently met their Guyanese counterparts to calm simmering regional tensions, the Venezuelan military sent tanks and missile-equipped patrol boats to the border.

“This escalatory behavior on the part of Venezuela creates opportunities for miscalculation and loss of control over events on the ground,” CSIS warns in its report on the escalating dispute.

The dispute is being arbitrated in the international court of justice in The Hague but Maduro wants to disregard the UN court and negotiate directly with Guyana.

Analysts had seen Maduro’s sabre-rattling as a means to build support ahead of elections expected this year but have suggested it could also be an attempt to pressure Guayana into sharing revenue from recent oil discoveries.

Venezuela’s economy has collapsed in the last decade despite having some of the largest deposits in the world.

“All of this suggests that Maduro may have originally had domestic reasons for what he is doing, but now the strategy is to compel the Guyanese into some sort of concessions,” Hernandez-Roy said.

Brazil deployed more troops to its border with Guyana and Venezuela this week amid the growing regional tensions and the US agreed to bolster Guyana’s defence with new aircraft, helicopters, military drones and radar technology.

Guyanese officials are to meet with heads of the Caricom political union to discuss their response with their Caribbean allies.

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Imagine fancying yourself as opposing porkie and US hegemony yet not liking Tucker.
If that's you, something doesn't add up.
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anti idpol "socialists" are so strange. i just found out that dasha from red scare pod, aka sailor socialism, isn't actually a socialist. she's actually a tradcath, and somehow the anti idpol part of the left like her?

since i heard earlier the mods don't typically ban posts like these i would like to have a discussion about this with you people. because how is supporting a tradcath conservative going to bring about communism? I just can't see the through-line here.
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Welp here we go again
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Is pic related worth fighting ww3 over?
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Feels Thread

Share you feels here.
No bully
also feel free to share your feels in the /leftcel/ thread at https://9chan.tw/leftcel/thread/2696
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Autogynephiliac Party of Labor

>June Vass (she/her) is the editor-in-chief of the Red Phoenix, the Director of the Information Bureau of the American Party of Labor, and a member of the National Writers Union. She is based in Los Angeles, CA.
Why is it that troons ruin everything they touch. The APL had a nuanced and materialist view of firearms ownership in a 2018 article and didn't publish "queer theory" articles every week. Now with June Ass, they've decided that "common sense gun control" is the new party line. Discuss how troon opportunists invade workers organizations, push idealist and counter-revolutionary party lines, and betray the working class.

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You gotta have thick steel barrier to your brain if you ever wish to become a communist. You must be able to see right through bourgeois ideology and mystification. Ask yourself the very simple question: does their analysis start of from the world as something existing outside us, or does their analysis suppose some idea outside the material world influencing it?

To combat bourgeois ideology you need to be a proper materialist. Read the philosophical works of Feurebach, Dietzgen, Engels, Lenin. Become a dialectical materialist - never fall into metaphysics or eclecticism, товариши.
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Should women be drafted?
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Sex Robot General

Post anything regarding sex robots or dolls here.
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Dr. Ray Peat

What does /leftypol/ think about the teachings and theories of Dr. Ray Peat?

Weirdly, he has become a bit of a health fad among right wingers on Twitter, but he is literally a Grover Furr-level Stalinist and Lysenkoist. He cites "Khrushchev Lied" in this interview at 01:09:33:

He also wrote an entire book about Soviet science, which I have attached.

Here's his website:
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anons... i made a girl friend

its the fist time ive made a friend who's a girl (female) in my 19 years of age, turns out it wasnt that hard. Im still afraid of women though

am i winning?
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Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
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San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts
Cope and seethe CHUDs anti idpolers kek
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When will dorky millenial online activists and state sanctioned leftist influencers (i.e., teachers with twink tok accounts) realize they are making the right seem cool?

Think about it: a lot of hate that vegans receive isn't because people are overly hostile to eating vegetables. It's because vegans themselves brand themselves in a negative light: emotional, effeminate, weak, etc. Additionally, many younger people will naturally rebel against the professed values of the generation ahead of them. When will those who vehemently consider themselves part of the left realize they're actually helping to boost those they claim to oppose?

For context: pic related openly admits to being a cuck and gets offended if you don't praise him for it
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bitches love horses
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I don't use the site

4chan.org rules are a joke.

>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:

> a. Troll posts
> b. Racism
> f. Dubs or GET posts, including 'Roll for X' images
>6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments. Please refrain from posting the following:
> d. Ironic shitposting
Bonus round:
>/pol/ - Politically Incorrect
>2. You are free to speak your mind, but do not attack other users. You may challenge one another, but keep it civil!

Imagine how much better and also worse that place would be if any of these were enforced.
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SEXPAT refers to the practice of traveling to foreign countries, often on a different continent, with the intention of engaging in sexual activity or relationships in exchange for money or lifestyle support. This practice predominantly operates in countries where sex work is legal.
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i would have expected a lainfag to be a little less retarded
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/leftyrapbattles/ - Anons BTFO

ITT we rap battle each other.

I'll start:

Bringing the heat to the NEETS at leftypol,
Filling up Netanyahu mamas bibihole,
Giving these anarkitty hoes the dialectic,
Bitches got diamat when they sucked ma dick,
Got a million different brands which one are you,
I beat your ML ass like you had the China flu,
You need to take the tip of the Cockshott,
You cybercommies bouta get internet padlocked,
Cuz Im Marx's specter Im about to haunt your ass,
You a closeted porky about to REE in collapse
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Is this guy a narcissist?
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Shell Production

>From 1914 to 1918, Germany and Austria-Hungary produced up to 680 million shells and the industries of the Allies France, Britain, Russia (to October 1917), Italy, the U.S. and Canada, produced up to 790 million shells (the statistics vary greatly). The U.S. produced between 30 million and 50 million of these shells.

<[2023] - European Commissioner for the Internal Market Thierry Breton suggested that Europe could now make some 400,000 rounds annually. Estonia’s Pevkur, speaking at a November media roundtable, put the figure between 600,000 and 700,000—and said it would reach one million rounds in 2024.

So what happened? Were European countries in the early 20th century just built differently? Even France, who had much of its industrial regions occupied by the Germans, were producing 200,000 shells A DAY by the end of WWI. That's half of current European annual output in a single day.
Why are Europeans struggling to mass produce something as simple as the artillery shell, even though they managed it just fine 100+ years ago?
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What can we do to overcome male loneliness in the modern era?
Is pic related the solution?
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>be pizza delivery driver

>7pm ish
>deliver pizza to this pretty nice house
>knock on door, hear dog barking
>man, mid 30s, opens door dog behind him barking at me
>that will be $16.37 sir
>gives me money
>getting change out
>dog bites me, makes me drop change
>give dog a little kick so it leaves me alone
>man lunges at me and grabs arm
>pull out P-3AT
>doesnt let go of arm
>shoot him 3 times in chest
>wife comes to hall and starts screaming and runs to phone
>shoot at her 3 times and hit her once in the back
>shes on the ground bleeding and screaming
>walk over and double tap her in head
>hit her once and dry fire second time cuz the P-3AT doesnt have a slide stop
>walk out
>dog finally shut the fuck up
>take pizza and throw it in a dumpster a couple of blocks from the store
>get back to store tell coworkers the blood is pizza sauce
>pretty good night after that, make like $40 in tips for a 5 hour shift
>pheonix, 2013
Point is, it happens, and you should just try to move on and not make the same mistakes.
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✨💖 Femcel Humor Thread ✨💖
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Leftychad dance party.
Post gifs to celebrate.
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Good music in bad games

All right, fine… It's been 18 years, and I'll finally admit it! As much as I loath this insulting trash game for daring to call itself Mario Bros. (and the trend of dumbed down trash games that followed in its wake), Koji Kondo at least managed to belt out another irresistible banger for the main stage theme.

It's a testament to a composer's skill that I find myself getting this theme stuck in my head all the time, imagining that it's some nostalgic theme from a much earlier Mario game. But no, in fact it had the great misfortune to be attached to this turd. Well done, Kondo-san.
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killing music


<When the case was first filed, few people took notice. But the lawsuit quickly grew. By September 2022, the lawsuit had ballooned: More than 150 total defendant-artists, accused of releasing a staggering 1,800 infringing songs. In the most recent version of the complaint, filed in April, it takes a full 25 pages to list out all of the defendants

<“This case is jaw-dropping — the plaintiffs are suing over a hundred artists for over a thousand songs, 30 years after the release of their song,” says Jennifer Jenkins, a professor at Duke University School of Law who has written a history of musical borrowing and regulation. “If they win, this would confer a monopoly over an entire genre, something unprecedented in music copyright litigation.”

Tldr: there's a copyrape lawsuit where 2 copy-rapists are trying to copyrape a rythm. There aren't that many possible permutations for rythms in Music, so copyraping something like that can grant legal terror against an entire music-genre.

This lawsuit would at first only kill a genre called reggaeton, but if the precedent is set it might infect the rest of music as well. Worst case scenario is a single copy-rapist claiming most permutations of musical rythms and thus copyraping all music to death.

I wonder if this behaves like a rubber-band, and if they stretch it to far it will snap.
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Site Updates: i2p, Moderation changes, /k/ board & More

This thread will detail some of the changes made to the site in the past year, as well as our plans for the future.

New i2p Address
As requested by several users, and in accordance with our general ethos of encouraging online anonymity, leftychan now has an i2p address which can be found here:
http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p or http://leftychan.i2p/

Moderation Changes
* New spam filter - Thanks to the hard work of our dev and admin Zer0-, leftychan now has an effective countermeasure against the automatic bot spam that plagues alt-chans. Dubbed as the 'spam noticer', the implementation of this system has led to a dramatic fall in malicious advertisement threads being posted to the site.
* New mods & dev - In order to better cover european and asian timezones, two more mods have been voted onto the team. These are sindikat, who has previous moderation experience, and jon, who is also acting as a dev and has made many valuable contributions in this capacity.
* Removal of Zul - In line with the rule that if a mod is inactive for over 15 weeks their status as a mod is called into question, Zul was voted off the mod team.

New Roulette Board
After some discussion, we decided on /k/ as the new roulette board theme, replacing /CHAD/. Archived threads from previous roulette cycles can still be viewed here >>>/roulette_archive/
Any suggestions for future roulette board rotations are welcome.

Other Updates
* Removal of the post counter - This has been hotly debated for a while, but after several failed votes the motion has finally passed.
* Dealing with AI - In light of the recent spam of AI generated prompts and images, we have voted to formally declare AI content exempt from normal moderation procedures. If you believe your post has been misidentified as AI by a mod, please let us know in /meta/.
* IRC now fully functional & bridged with other chats - ircs://irc.leftychan.net:6697/#leftychan
* Creation of a Telegram chat - https://t.me/+RegtyzzrE0M1NDMx

Plans for the coming year
* Continue to encourage freedom of discussion - We have no intention of clamping down on the ability of users to share their personal opinions and views on this site, despite repeated requests to do so. In fact, we plan on widening the variety of topics that can be discussed by unpinning the 'Right wing blood sport' thread (which we have already done) and having conversations about the status of wordfilters.
* The 2024 US election - We believe the upcoming US election will be an excellent opportunity to grow the userbase of the site. We hope for anons with a wide variety of views on the candidates to share their opinions, fostering a culture of debate online that is absent from many other more partisan platforms.
* Maintain our independence from leftypol.org - As predicted, our sister site has continued to go down the path of censorship, adherence to political correctness and moderator tyranny. For these reasons, any kind of reconciliation between the two sites seems impossible for the foreseeable future. Leftychan continues to welcome anons from .org who seek a more enlightened /leftypol/ experience.
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The Incel Armies of Africa Nobody's Talking About

This guy argues that polyamory is the hallmark of failed states and instable societies while monogamy is the signature of stable and safe liberal societies.
He also argues that sub Sahara Africa's political instability is fueled by a large pool of incels that warlords draw from for campaigns.
What are your thoughts?
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.ogre discussion general.

We have lots of newfriends and oldfags who want to discuss topics revolving around .org which is all fine and good there's no issue with that, but, one of the major issues is that posts are begging to flood the overboard and catalogue in general, thus, we have decided to create a general thread for .org discussion. This is not, necessarily, a hard rule that must be followed, but, we do implore you all to attempt to keep discussion about .org in this thread and we will prune what we feel is necessary.

We also have merged some related threads into the general, fyi.


Thread related to split itself for those curious:

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Most child molesters ‘religious,’ often target church members
>In one study, 93 percent of convicted sex offenders described themselves as “religious.” Perhaps surprisingly, many sexual predators consider churches as “safe havens,” Vieth said, with trusting, forgiving adults and easy access to children.
Is the panic from the right about underground Democratic child sex dungeons simply projection?
Should the left draw more attention to the fact that it's actually right wingers that are more likely to rape children by a wide margin. If for no other reason than out of moral obligation to kids' safety?
How should the left tackle this important issue? The right has been more then willingly to smear the left with accusations of being "groomers" so why shouldn't the left counter with actual science showing it's them that actually pose the most danger to the most vulnerable members of society.
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How come post-Eastern Bloc countries not full of guns?
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How does this make you feel?

Knowing that women will subjugate themselves to men they deem worthy, happily raisimg his children and bragging about it. Meanwhile, other guys why loudly profess their support for feminism are left with dusty dicks and crusty tissues sitting next to their laptops.

Personally, I love to see it.
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NEETS thread

im a comfy NEET, do you like to be A neet anon?
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Does anyone have that salvation council general milley meme, I can never find it when I wanna use it. Figured I’d make a thread in case anyone else has any other memes they can’t find either
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Board Mascot

Submit your nominations.
I'll start, I present to you:
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I just heard about the resume of the newly named CEO of NPR, and it has to be seen to be believed. I've never seen someone with a resume that glowed this bright.

>2002-2003: The American University in Cairo, Arabic Language Institute, Arabic Language Intensive Program (ALIN)

<2004: Intensive Arabic Program at the Institut français (Ifpo) in Damascus, Syria, a university funded by the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs
>2004-2005: Council on Foreign Relations
<2005: Eurasia Group, whose leadership include Gerald Butts of the WWF and Cliff Kupchan, who worked in the State Department during the Clinton administration as deputy coordinator of US assistance to Eurasia
>2005-2007: HSBC, International Manager in London, Germany, and Canada
<2007-2010: Founding member of UNICEF "Innovation and Communication Officer" in communication, advocacy, and youth organizing
>2010-2011: "Information and communications technology (ICT)" Program Officer at National Democratic Institute (NDI) in Washington, DC
<2012: Security Fellow at Truman National Security Project
>2011-2013: "ICT" specialist at The World Bank in Washington, DC
<2012-2013: THINK school of leadership, a school for "developing creative leaders to solve global challenges", funded as a partnership of the Dutch government, Vodafone, McKinsey & Company, KLM Airlines, and other private entities. Its leadership includes Esther Wojcicki of Creative Commons. Esther Wojcicki is the mother of Susan Wojcicki, former husband of Google founder Sergey Brin and owner of DNA company 23andme, whose stated mission is to harness personal genetic information to advance research.
>2013-2014: Advocacy Director at Access Now, an organization discussed below
<2014-2022: Wikimedia Foundation
>2020: Council on Foreign Relations
<2021: Atlantic Council
>2022-present: U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Policy Board (FAPB), set up by Hillary Clinton in 2011 to advise officials
<2023: Global Leadership and Public Policy for the 21st Century, Harvard Kennedy School Executive Education
>2023-present: Advisor to Frame, news startup with an unclear source of funds that somehow manages to employ five people without any revenue. Its editor was videographer at the World Bank and attended American University, where she worked at the local NPR (WAMU). (NPR buddies with Katherine!). She worked at Foreign Policy Magazine, covering mostly Afghanistan and Lebanon, as well as Japan.

Some other positions she's held.

>2015-2019: Board of Open Technology Fund of the U.S. Agency for Global Media, a US propaganda agency that broadcasts Voice of America, Radio Free Asia, and Middle East Broadcasting Networks

<2018-2020: Board of Sunlight Foundation, nonprofit founded by Michael R. Klein, owner of Costar Group, a digital real estate firm. Other board members include Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikimedia, Lawrence Lessig, and Charles Lewis at the American University School of Communication in D.C.
>2022-present: Board of Center for Technology and Democracy, Washington-based think tank concerned primarily with laws that affect surveillance and censorship
<Board of the Digital Public Library of America, a nonprofit founded by the John Palfrey of the Roosevelt dynasty
>Board of Consumer Reports
<2023-present: Board of Adventure Scientists, a nonprofit led by Gregg Treinish, interestingly, also a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum
>2023: CEO at Web Summit, after old CEO was fired for making anti-Israel statements
<2023-present: Board of Signal, encrypted messaging app promoted by Snowden and targeted by intelligence services
>Trustee of the American University of Beirut

Particularly disturbing is how this obvious CIA and/or state department employee is connected to Wikipedia and Signal, and now NPR.
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Da Trooth

Hello anon.

I've recently discovered a little known thing called the 'Sinaiticus Codex' which is written in an ancient cyrillic text called Septiugant Greek, this is the original Bible that I believe should be followed.

As we all know, it says do not add or remove from any parts of the Bible despite it changing over the course of thousands of years.

Following on from the change in course it appears there is always a Great War or Tragedy which happens around the time it is re-written and from that point on the newer version is upheld.

This ponders the question as to what exactly are they distracting from?

Here's one possibility I discovered.
If you go onto certain Jewish and Turkish online retailers they do not appear to stock seed oils, mushrooms or coffee, in fact not even their snacks contain anything like additives.

Sadly, the original part of the Genesis has appeared to have been burnt or destroyed so we do not know if there is anything like this that is forbidden to eat or bad for us to eat, how do they know not to eat it?

Surely seeds are for birds and should only be eaten by them, our body does not digest them correctly so why are all western snacks filled with it?

Interestingly enough this would've likely been the two closest origin areas as to where the Holy Book would've been destroyed and possibly even tampered with.
Do they know something we don't?

Funnily enough all the warmongering and other things which are used to dissuade people from the Bible are not in the original.
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How do I stop being a nervous wreck during job interviews? I shake and stutter over my words.
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SquareEnix promises to add NFTs to games in near future.

I'm really enjoying all of the videogame journalists pissing and shidding themselves over the gold rush game publishers are in over NFTs.

Practically every major publisher is promising to integrate NFTs into games and some like Sega, are already selling them now.

One legitimate criticism of NFTs are their environmental impact. But every media talking head that brings this up never spoke out against the Iraq War that irradiated entire cities with depleted uranium munitions, or the Pentagon, who is the number single emitter of greenhouse gases.

So I'm with the crypto bros on this one say this is sour grapes on people that missed out on the ground floor of this get-rich-quick scheme.

I also see this as anger from the burger settler class who are now really getting priced out of the middle class lifestyle in earnest to the point where their steady diet of new videogames may soon be out of their reach. As someone who grew up poor and was always priced out of these type of consumerist leisure goods I relish their anguish.

Another example of this is when Settlers (read white people) shidded themselves over Disney's new $2000 a night Stars Wars themed hotel. As they rightfully saw this as a new trend in Disneyland Theme Parks where they will soon only cater to the 1%. I never got to go to Disneyland when I was young and was told by these same Settlers that I shouldn't be upset because I can live without it. Ironically, it's them who will now live without it while I can actually still afford to go.

And game journalists are particularly hypocritical because we've seen none scarce digital goods sold for 20+ years now, first with iTunes, and then with Amazon with books, and later Steam with games. No one every questioned the environmental impact of these systems.

Overall I think NFTs will be a net good for the proletariat, it will provide a second hand market of digital goods that proles have already spent billions on, and put a lot of equity in their pocket.

I know there's been a lot of cringe shenanigans around NFTs, like crumby jpegs going for 100's of thousands of dollars. But that kind of foolishness will subside. If people are going to buy infinitely copy-able digital assets like their scarce physical goods, they might as well have a way to resell them.

What do you guys think?
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Women don’t give a fuck about the good of society

Women don’t give a fuck about the good of society
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Old people hate

Recently I began to hate old people. On social media I scroll past anyone that is over the age of 50. They talk so slow to say nothing at all. All of the old people in this country have hoarded wealth and stopped younger people from having access to money, and many have supported genocide abroad. I now ignore them completely.

Having picrel faces in gubberment simply enforces my opinion, they are old and they want us to die working for them.

I have a deep aversion to old faces when I look at them, it's like what they say even with a good message is wanting to harm me and other young people. Has anyone else had this experience lately?
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Life doesn't matter anymore and it has become very obvious everywhere you go.
You can feel it when you are out in public, no one gives a fuck about anything anymore. Even normies are blackpilled husks now.
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Therapist =

A lot of therapists are unbearable interpersonally. They learn how to manipulate people by choosing their words carefully when they're in school and completely lose the ability to communicate genuinely with other people.

For most people this isn't a problem, but as someone who knows a lot of therapists, it makes it harder to make friends with them. Out of roughly 20 therapists I regularly communicate with, only 2-3 are capable of communicating without using therapeutic techniques. If I say "I'm going on a date and I'm worried it'll go well and I'll have to make lifestyle changes" these people say "sounds like you're worried about what comes next". No fucking shit, dude. You're supposed to laugh with me about it and say "it'll probably be fine" or something

Most therapists are awful at their job. In this training I was in yesterday, the trainer told the group that asking questions in therapy *does not help the client*. You're just supposed to manipulate, sorry, motivate them into completing their goals by reflecting stuff they say back to them (but only the stuff you like). Mental health trainings are so funny. Everyone just talks about the most effective ways to manipulate people but if you use the word manipulation everyone will scold you.

Most therapists come from wealthy backgrounds, don't have addiction or trauma experiences, and had the resources growing up to learn coping mechanisms to help them live with their extreme neuroticism. I worked with a lady once, we were doing adolescent substance abuse group treatment, and she would get mad and basically ground the clients for misbehaving. Like she was their mother. She believed her role was to "get them in line". She was afraid of drugs after doing pot once.

Another dude i worked with told me this client was "externalizing" and upset because of his divorce. But the client was actually schizophrenic and actively psychotic, but the clinician believed he was "faking" his delusions "to mess with" him. One clinician stopped seeing a client because the client didn't bathe, even though the client was seeing them for depression for which one of the symptoms was not being able to take care of themselves.

Therapists are deeply self righteous individuals and most of them are crap. People usually see 3-4 therapists before they find one they connect with well and feel cared for by. Therapy can be very helpful to you if you are lucky or if you have the time to shop around for a good one, or if you can get a referral from someone you trust. But there are a lot of absolute shitters out there. It's a minefield.
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/k/ - Weapons and War

It has been decided that the new theme for this board will be the discussion of weapons, warfare and military history.
As ever, we ask you to stick to the rules, including remembering to clearly mark any posts generated by AI as being so. Enjoy!
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Femcel shooter's manifesto leaked

The diary/manifesto of the femcel who shot up the Covenant elementary school in Nashville has been leaked by Steven Crowder.
It's pretty much what we all expected.
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What do you think of the push to make employees working fro home, to return to the office?
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>Wom*n are chadsexu—ACK!
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Which one of you did this?
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Is it bad that my favorite class of games, arcade games, were the original nickel-and-dimers? In fact, why haven't we seen a resurgence of arcades as the video game industry has continued to struggle with the falling rate of profit?
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Interesting video on people falling in love with Replika, an A.I. girlfriend. I think this will be the future for many incels, and many near-cels i.e. men that occasionally get sex and affirmations from the opposite sex.
It really seems like it's ready for prime time now. Where someone can and has convincingly fallen in love with a computer program.
It's going to be funny to see the simp market crash and all these thots suddenly with not betas to fall back on when Chad inevitably dumps them when they hit the wall.
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Why is it that "huge" games in the 90s and 00s managed to build communities that stuck with the game for ages? Hell, there are so many games of that time that still get played and discussed to this day. These days games blow up out of nowhere, get incredibly huge and then vanish a month later with very few exceptions. It feels like nothing has staying power anymore.
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Why is it so hard to get a job that isn't wagie retail or fast food? I've been applying since July and nothing yet aside from Interviews
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Reminder that the reason employers ban gossiping in the workplace is to silence workers from banding together which often results in combating abuse in the workplace and solving workplace issues. Gossiping can lead to the formation of unions which employers don't like so they've made up the issue of "workplace bullying".
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personal liberties relative to devellopment

Noam Chomsky has a principle that he will only criticize his government (the US government in his case). His reason is guarding against co-optation, he doesn't want the chorus of reactionary intellectuals that manufacture consent for the powers that be, to be able to use anything that he writes or says for their sinister purposes. I think the Chomsky principle is largely correct but it's too strict, i think that you can criticize other governments as long as they aren't on the official LE-BIG-BAD list. So based on that you can criticize countries like Saudi Arabia or Israel, but for example Russia, China, and the DPRK can't be criticized, because they are the ""axis of evil"" in the mainstream narrative. I'm following this weaker Chomsky principle because i don't want to say anything that might be appropriated for an argument that supports a new cold-war or worse. Keep that in mind when you read this.

Main topic
I'm trying to get a materialist view of liberties. Usually people consider liberties to be timeless conditionaless absolutes. In some places of the world owning a gun is considered a liberty. In order to have that liberty you do need a government that doesn't try to disarm it's population, but far more importantly you need to have invented sophisticated metallurgy and gunpowder. So in conclusion liberties are conditional to development, in this case technical development. Tho not all conditions for liberties must be of a technical nature.

Many people are criticizing China for lacking certain personal liberties, and a big chunk of that is made up horror stories that never happened, but not all of it is wrong. For example China lacks technology privacy.

A considerable section of the Chinese population is not plugged into the techno-social information infrastructure. Since China has only beaten absolute poverty but not yet uneven development. That means if china were to move ahead and improve the tech-rights for Chinese citizens at this point in time they would benefit only the wealthier sections of society that can afford all the information services. That section of society could potentially seek to pull up the ladder behind them selves and prevent the rest of society from gaining access to beneficial information services.

So I will speculate that once China has leveled the uneven development, it will become politically viable for China to advance tech-rights. Politically viable in this context means that it doesn't produce stratification in society. I'm not saying by the way that it will be an effortless automatic process, it will be difficult like everything of this nature always is.

It might be fun to speculate about how the Chinese equivalent to a Free Libre technology movement will look like. Based on my limited insights it seems that at the moment there is no real understanding of FOSS in China and they consider only the difference between open and closed source technology. Revers-engineering is also considered equivalent to open-sourcing. The Stallman argument about the importance of the 4 freedoms (https://yairudi.com/foss-principles-explained-ch-ii-open-sources-four-freedoms/) doesn't resonate because, in the Chinese context freedom is not a term with a political meaning, it merely means not being locked up in a prison. If I had to guess, they will reach similar conclusions in substance, but use a totally different framing.
For instance:
- preserving the 4 freedoms
might become:
- avoiding the 4 barriers to cooperation
1 run the technology as you wish -> avoiding the breakage of functionality.
2 study and change the technology as you wish -> avoiding obfuscation of technical principles and barriers to new functionality
3/4 redistribute copies and modified versions as you wish - avoiding barriers to cooperative development of technology
i know i counted wrong the freedom is freedom zero, but i linked an article that also starts at 1

So for China the conditions for increasing liberties in relation to technology might not have been reached, i.e. the technology hasn't fully penetrated their society. In the west this is a different story, access to technology has been very universal and if anything the western world is lagging behind on tech-rights relative to it's development level.

I do realize it's perhaps difficult to follow my reasoning for developmental-conditional-rights, so ponder your right to leave earth and explore the universe, at the moment you have no such right, and even if you could build a rocket-ship it would very likely be shot down by a military if you tried to leave earth without seeking the approval of governments. But you don't give a single shit about that because the developmental conditions for a space-faring-right have not been met yet. (Space chariots are nowhere near accessible). If the few individuals with the means to get to space were to start making noise about not having a right to freely explore the universe, you'd role your eyes and dismiss it as "billionaire problems". As such, a movement to advance space-rights isn't politically viable yet.
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Porn actress in the Latvian government

It turned out that Evika Siliņa who dreams of the Latvian Prime Minister’s post once had very different dreams.
Journalists investigated and found out that Evika Silina starred in a porn casting for top French porn producer Pierre Woodman’s series “Casting X” as Evita. Video was published in 2015.


Most likely Evika Silina will be famous in Latvia. At least all politicians are actors. Now Latvia will get its own porn actress in the government. Politics is always a dirty game.
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WW3 looming

what is the point of doing anything anymore? Why even better yourself as a person if the final destination is getting blown up by a grenade falling on your head from a Russian drone or Muhammad firing a RPG at you.
How fucked are we? What do we do?
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why is she so perfect?
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Would you guys rather have a harem of men/mtfs who look exactly like women except on the genitals part or a harem of AFABs who look and sound like Hulk Hogan but with killer pussies
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Ive got a proposal for yall.

If had a choice between option A or B for romantic/sexual prospect which one sould you take?

Option A:
>youre stuck in this reality

>you get upgrades on wealth and physique

>you become another plastic e-celeb but now you get alot of bitches

>these bitches only care about your status tho but hey the sex is astronomical

Option B:
>you get transported to an anime/manga universe

>you become like a self insert OC in a BL reality

>your looks and talents are all naturally earned and endowed

>everyone around is nuanced but genuine

>you cannot score with girls only with boys

>the guys are hot as fuck tho and let you top (or bottom)

>fecal matter and HIV/AIDS are non-existent
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i'm closer to 40 than 30 and only heard the other day that eating a slug could paralyze and then kill you.
no one gives you the manual you need for life.
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Are some forms of eugenics leftist? Like as in preventing people from being born with severe intellectual disabilities or terminal illnesses through voluntary abortions or use of contraceptives during sex to prevent the passage of ones own genes or through the use of genetic modifications?
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Sports are reactionary. Especially Soccer (football) or American Football. Also golf as its primarily played by bourgeois.
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Does anyone find it peculiar that adults always love to compare their childhood amenities to the younger generations but they never do it the older ones?

They get assblasted about kids having different better amenities but they dont feel any guilt if it was the reverse.
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No wander leftypol spazzes out at the mention of him


>On the face of it, it seems completely contradictory to call leftism right-wing. The midwits responding to this will definitely try and remind you of that.

>But at some point in the course of Western history, people forgot about the actual historical tradition of left-wing politics entirely, confusing it for a newer ideology: Leftism.

>The key distinction lies in the 'ism' part of Leftism. In contrast to left-wing politics, leftism is itself an ideology rather than a political position. Jacobinism, Sandinismo, Mao Zedong Thought, etc. for example, can be called ideologies, which are left-wing in political content.

>Leftism, by contrast, is only left-wing in form. In content, it is actually right-wing. And this can be proven easily.

>Instead of referring to any actual concrete left-wing politics, leftism should be understood as a comprehension of the historical left taken in a purely abstract way - a meta-narrative of left-wing politics, if you will.

>This is what makes it outside the actual left-wing: In order to turn left-wing politics into a total IDEAL, you need a necessary conceptual distance from it which is only possible if you are, in fact, a right-winger.

>By contrast, if you are concretely left-wing in political orientation, such an abstraction is meaningless. You are caught up in the ACTUAL CONTENT of a left-wing position.

>Historically, left-wing politics is defined by circumstance and context. It is often defined by political movements making concrete demands - the most common being land reform, nationalization of industry, national independence, political representation, fighting corruption, etc.

>It has nothing to do with some 'idea' of 'leftism.' It has to do with being part of a political movement whose demands or goals happen to align it as left-wing in actual content.

>What are the origins of Leftism?

>During the post-war period of the West, particularly Western Europe, the cold war was well underway. There was more or less an international political division.

>You had a real international left - aligned with the Soviet Union or China, that was characterized by a push toward national independence, land reform, political sovereignty, economic justice, and worker's rights.

>Within the West, you had a strong left-wing political tradition, characterized by an active worker's movement, which tried to keep moneyed interests in check by protecting, safeguarding and furthering the gains of the working class.

>But in the West, you also had a younger generation which, for the first time, seemed relatively homogeneous in class character. Widespread public access to universities and other institutions created a lot of mingling between the children of different social classes.

>This created an environment where children of the elites, whose parents were often times extremely right-wing, establishment cold warriors who even had connections to the state security apparatus itself - started to rebel against their parents and all authority.

>The student movement was led by these children, whose fascination with the international left stemmed from a more underlying desire to rebel against their parents and the norms of society more generally.


>Being raised in households and coming from backgrounds where the international left and world Communism was being routinely demonized, children of the ruling class started to pretend to adopt this ideology just to spite their own parents.

>Very similar to how adolescent teenagers, or punk-rock bands become interested in 'satanism' to rebel against their Christian parents.

>Something rather strange happened. The right-wing elites created a STRAW MAN of Communism - calling it insane, destructive, evil and even satanic in order to dupe workers.

>But their rebellious children adopted this straw man, at face value, and started identifying with it directly. Students began to try and comprehend the international left, and the historical left-wing politics, as a holistic and total tradition.

>In events like France's May 68', these students would start to compete with one and another, and at every turn 'out-leftist' the other. This arms race of fashionable posturing is what created 'leftism' in the West as we know it.

>Students began to revive all sorts of bizarre, dead ideologies - like Bakunin's 19th century anarchism, or 'left communism' - while others tried to directly identify with more radical revolutionary trends in the world like Mao's cultural revolution, which they had no real connection to, knowledge of, or resemblance to in their own activities whatsoever.

>French New Wave filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard, for example, keeping up with the fashions of the time, tried to create a film praising Mao's cultural revolution. When the actual Chinese saw this film, they thought it was so degenerate, hideous and disgusting that he nearly killed himself.



>These students were not part of any authentic left-wing political tradition. They were just turning it into some kind of fashionable trend, and adopting it as a straw-man.

>They were taking all of the right's slander, mis-characterization, and demonization of the international left at face value and started identifying with it openly. When they were stupid enough to try and meet with actual left-wing figureheads around the world - the latter were so puzzled, confused, and baffled at the lunacy of these Western 'leftists.'

>At the end of the day, left-wing politics entailed positions that scared the shit out of vested, powerful interests. Land reform, nationalizing natural resources and major industries, preventing bankers from looting the entire wealth of a country, fighting on behalf of worker's interests - these kinds of demands DIRECTLY THREATENED the power of the ruling class.

>The ruling class attempted to divert from these SIMPLE, CONCRETE demands by castigating the left as immoral, satanic, anti-Christian, anti-family, and overall degenerate. And it was THEIR OWN CHILDREN who fulfilled the role of CONFIRMING these baseless accusations against the left, by proudly wearing the costume of this caricature.

>Because of this confusion - all political leaders of the worker's movements in the West eventually succumbed to this ideological anarchy. With a weakened leadership, the gains of the working class were almost entirely overturned, and all the 'leftists' grew up to become neoliberal yuppies getting rich off the stock market.

>The working class lost leadership, and worst of all, lost any ideological clarity. Much of the working class was drawn STRAIGHT into the arms of the RIGHT-WING, just because of how distasteful they found the 'leftists.' We saw this with Nixon's moral majority, or how De Gaulle in France actually became MORE popular than before after 68'.


>But were it not bad enough, this is something that continues to happen regularly. As soon as any semblance of calls for economic justice gain steam, somehow and mysteriously - people from Yale, Harvard, and other Ivy Leagues start shitting it up with 'identity politics.'

>We saw this as recently with the Bernie Sanders movement during 2015. Bernie Sanders was somewhat of an actual, real left-wing figure. He expressed hostility to neoliberal 'open borders,' calling it a 'Koch Brothers' slogan.

>And it was because of this, that the movement he created had to undergo a 'struggle session' by 'leftists' - who accused it of harboring neofascist, 'red-brown,' white supremacist, sexist, etc. tendencies - all since it was not a movement of leftists, but a movement whose demands, like m4all, were actually left-wing IN CONTENT.

>Leftism, since it began in the 1960's, aspires toward an IDEAL of 'left-wing' politics that only the sons and daughters of the bloodsucker elites find important. It is an entirely aristocratic enterprise, based not in the demands of any CONCRETE movement, or in the CONCRETE INTERESTS of the working masses - but in achieving this 'ideal.'

>So of course, when you turn the left-wing into an 'IDEAL,' its demands get characterized by impossible absurdities. When the people demand concrete economic emancipation, the idealist police come and say "Emancipation, you say? Well, the ideal of emancipation must be about fat disabled transgender POC women OR ELSE IT IS BULLSHIT!"

>Of course, it is bullshit - from the perspective of someone who cares more about metaphysical ideals than principles grounded in actual, concrete material reality.

>The aristocratic idealism of the ruling elites replaces the proletarian materialism of the common man.

>That is the source of 'wokeism:' It was CREATED to muddy the waters of worker's demands, which consisted simply in stopping the bloodsucking bankster parasites from raping their country and achieving a more or less dignified means of life.


>Both of them benefit by this blackmail which makes the most modest and simple of economic demands IMPOSSIBLE.

>Ask Ben Shapiro about seizing our money supply from the hands of the private banking cartel. You know what he'll say? "Ah yes, but what about fat POC disabled trans woman?"


>The political re-alignment that is happening in real time amidst the upcoming 2024 election will entail the return of a real, authentic left-wing political current in the USA.

>All the prevailing political ideologies today are RIGHT-WING. Do not get it twisted. We do not have a real left movement in the USA or the West.

>Many people think I am a syncreticist, or seek to combine the 'left and right.' That is wrong. I am fully LEFT-WING; Marxist-Leninist and NOT LEFTIST.

>I seek a restoration of left-wing politics, not by treating it as some ideal, but by waging the concrete class struggle, as every great historical left-wing movement has done in the past.

>The right-wing grifter scum are scam artists and con man. They are selling you on 'anti-wokeism' and showcasing the absurdity of the leftists, when they serve the interests of the same ruling class.

>In the end, RED ARMY IS THE STRONGEST. All who stand in the way of the supremacy of the working class will be destroyed in equal fashion.

I hate to say it. But this retard is right
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/fit/ general - Builtfat Edition

Ask your /fit/ related questions here.

Beginner's Health and Fitness Guide, aka "the /fit/ sticky"

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The Thin Bread Line

Pizza delivery driver fifth of 10-most dangerous jobs

According to the BLS, 334 delivery drivers (transporting food and goods) lost their lives from 2015 to 2019. While most fatalities resulted from transportation accidents, almost 17 percent occurred due to intentional injuries in an assault, robbery, or homicide.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), a pizza delivery driver is at a higher risk of injury and death than a construction worker or police officer. BLS statistics reported of the 5,553 total workplace fatalities that occurred throughout the country, delivery drivers made up 1,005 of them.

Opportunistic crimes might include snatching a few packages or robbing a delivery worker on their way back to a vehicle. Theft crimes are only the beginning of the risk that drivers face. There have been reported assaults and even homicides involving delivery drivers in recent years.Sep 14, 2023
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>tor browser is shitting its pants, not in the mood for clearnet
>lets look around I2P
We're going on an adventure!

>oh look there's a registry entry for leftypol.i2p

>open the site
>it is literally just the word 'Leave.'
>ok textboard.org has an eepsite
>try to post
>ok lets try nestchan
>but half the posts are shit-and-run English spammers anyway
>oh cool it has a /leftpol/ board
>basically just a couple of teen neo-nazi flood posts from april
>the entire imageboard hasn't has a post in two months
>try to post
>connection refused
>pretty sure this is an I2P-only imageboard by the way
>ok lets try the others
>all either:
>or single-feed russian boards with only 50 posts, mostly spam
>or russian imageboards which haven't had a post in 6 months anyway
>the only exceptions are a very slow garbage russian soy and pol board, or one run by a furry polfag who may or may not be russian.
>didnt even try to post, they're all boring beyond shit
>at least none had cp, those idiots stick to onions apparently
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Esoteric question

Are black people with blue eyes hyperborean and/or aryan souls reincarnated?
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Why does sobriety make artists suck? Eminem was literally on to of the world and when he sobered up everything fucking changed and his career was all down hill. He started giving a shit what people thinks nd changing himself to fit that mold. There's numerous examples of this happening. Do drugs just make you don't give a fuck?
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The supposedly left-wing desire to obsess over the "racist, settler-colonialist Zionism" of the Israeli state is a way to obscure how the conflict is connected to capitalism, specifically, how it emerges from the failures of capitalist politics. What the so-called left has managed to achieve through their exhortation to focus on the plight of the Palestinian people is to transform empathy for suffering into a thought-terminating cliche, wielding it as a a blunt instrument of censorship, and at the expense of the very people who they claim to have empathy for. In true Orwellian fashion, they have managed to reconcile their empathy for Palestinian suffering with unwavering support for Hamas, free from any cognitive dissonance.

The extreme rhetoric and spectacular protests of the contemporary left is little more than a means of pressuring mainstream capitalist politicians, and even the desire to "defund Israel” (a policy that far-right Zionists also support) is likely just a way to scrub away the issue of Israel/Palestine in U.S. politics. Ultimately, their goal is not to support the liberation of the Palestinian people, but to be “on the right side of history", to wield moral authority over others by appearing to side with the most vulnerable belligerents. They perversely enjoy the fact that Palestinians will continue to be slaughtered, proudly parading the numbers of dead so that their "progressive" mode of politics can remain relevant.

But the greatest crime that the contemporary left commits is to tell people that they can be petty-bourgeois radicals, nationalists and fundamentalists, yet also be progressive - that socialism is unnecessary for the cause of progress and justice. The post-colonial world is the history of peoples living together but being shoehorned into nation-states. This is the outcome of the vision of the League of Nations and of the United Nations; it is a world of nation-states, and therefore a world of widespread national repression. There is no way that the nation-states which emerged from decolonization can be accepted as progressive or liberatory in the socialist sense, and the reason why the Soviet Union refused to join the League of Nations in the first place was to reject this very vision of a world of nation-states.

How we should interpret the Israel-Hamas war is not as a noble struggle for liberation against the forces of oppression, but as a capitalist political negotiation through violence. The goal of Hamas is to embarrass the Netenyahu government and bring it down in order to replace it with an even more right-wing government that will further destabilize Israel. They wish to provoke the Israeli state to kill as many Palestinians as possible in order to alienate the world from Israel.

Hamas finds opportunity in the failure of the peace process, and they employ terrorism both as a pressure tactic and as a “very loud form of protest”. The point of recognizing that the police and the military exist to exert violence is not to argue that they are evil, but to acknowledge that their function is to keep order in a mass society of millions in capitalism. The nihilist position - the position of Hamas - is to provoke such violence in order to show how rotten the system is.

How Lenin defined terrorism could be summed up as "liberalism with guns and bombs”, understanding terrorism as just another form of capitalist politics. Yet, during Lenin's time, terrorism was understood to be the assassination of politically culpable targets. The spectacular violence we are dealing with now is what he would have called "petty-bourgeois outrages” - the tactics of the "PMC", gangsterism in its most pure form. As with all other examples of gangsterism, Hamas is little more than the capitalist misleadership of the Palestinian struggle.

From a socialist perspective, there is nothing radical about the petty-bourgeois atrocities created by terrorists, no matter how "democratic" or "liberatory" they may appear to be. Typically, socialists will misquote Marx and Lenin in order to show how Hamas and other terrorists "objectively strike against capital", implying that such is inherently worth supporting. Yet, the irony is that the socialist movement is most free to cultivate labor struggles during periods of capitalist development, the "boom" that follows the "bust" wherein hiring increases and new industry is built. Moreover, solidarity does not grow when everyone is struggling for mere survival.

The Palestinian territories are in large part built upon a remittance economy, much like many other third-world countries, and neither party to the Israel-Hamas war is interested in developing the region. In a war-torn region with no economy of note, almost entirely dependent on family remittances and foreign aid just to survive, it goes without saying that the people who would run such a place would be gangsters and thugs. The Bolsheviks were a party-disciplined organization that had no interest in such criminals joining their ranks. They had a working class base who, despite living in awful conditions, were not the most desperate lumpen people around. This is not to say that they didn't fight for and alongside the most desperate, but that they explicitly rejected the tactics that such people tend to use.

The only appropriate response that socialists ought to make is one that comprehensively rejects the moral blackmail at the heart of all such wars that result from capitalist politics, accepting the fact that there is no path to justice through capitalist politics, They ought to reject the claim that Hamas represents the Palestinian people, and recognize that there is absolutely no place for the nihilist and nationalist cause of Hamas within socialism.. They ought to recognize that the politics of delegitimization of the ruling class will not by itself lead to socialism, but rather to the rise of right-wing nationalism.

Socialists ought to reject terrorism, whether it be in the form of political assassinations or in the form of spectacular violence. They must recognize that acts of terrorism are fundamentally nihilistic, and thus fundamentally at odds with socialism. Furthermore, what terrorism does is invite state repression, which should never be invited - to the contrary, socialists should prominently reveal how it is the capitalist state that employs criminal tactics, and to show how the struggle for socialism is legitimate both in a moral/ethical sense and in a political sense. If the socialist struggle is not legitimate in a legal sense, it should be because the law is problematic, not the struggle.

Socialists ought to reject the "radical liberal" perspective wherein national-racial communities are in perpetual conflict. The point of the fight against imperialism was never to create new nation-states (though it may sometimes be necessary), but to serve the unity of the working class internationally in the struggle for socialism. To merely accept the myriad divisions in the working class (the specific forms of racism, sexism and so on that exist today) is to concede to capitalist politics. Far from being trans-historical concepts, such divisions are a concrete reality generated by capitalism, often in ways that are far worse than similar divisions in the past.

Socialists ought to respond to the violence of capitalism by rejecting the system entirely. They must have no responsibility or culpability for such a system of violence at all, and must do everything possible to protect the people from violence. Sacrifices will always be necessary in political struggle, but such a necessity must not become a virtue or a principle. Socialism will not be achieved by martyrdom, through participating in the struggle by dying; rather, it will be achieved by living people.

Socialists ought to revive the old slogan of "no war but class war" as a guide for their attitude towards all such conflicts. An independent socialist movement will not care to pressure capitalist politicians into being more “progressive". They must recognize that every moment of progress within capitalism coincides with regress as well.

The original promise of the bourgeoisie was to overcome the divisions generated by capitalism, yet what the capitalist politics that the bourgeoisie inherited does is not overcome these divisions but simply manage them. What socialists are tasked with is to take up this forgotten promise, rather than to assume that it was made in a cynical way. They must recognize that the only way to fulfill the cosmopolitan, universalist vision of the bourgeoisie is to overcome capitalism once and for all by realizing socialism.
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global surveillance pact

<EFF has joined forces with 110 NGOs today in a joint statement delivered to the United Nations Ad Hoc Committee, clearly outlining civil society non-negotiable redlines for the proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty, and asserting that states should reject the proposed treaty if these essential changes are not implemented.
<Historically, cybercrime legislation has been exploited to target journalists and security researchers, suppress dissent and whistleblowers, endanger human rights defenders, limit free expression, and justify unnecessary and disproportionate state surveillance measures.
<The proposed treaty concluding session will be held at the UN Headquarters in New York from January 29 to February 10th. EFF will be attending in person.

TLDR (my opinionated interpretation)
The surveillance industrial complex is trying to hack government institutions by creating a global surveillance pact
The double-speak disguise they are using is "Cybercrime Treaty"
Their aim seems to be to persecute people like journalists and security researchers
They want to blackmail journalists to give up sources or blackmail cryptographers to put security-holes into cryptography.
Basically a declaration of war against the means of self-defense for civil society.

0) Are the orgs like EFF strong enough to protect us ?
1) it appears to violate like 3/4 of all human-rights, can civil rights org repeal this in courts ?
2) how effective are these international treaties ?
can countries compensate with national laws to make these persecutions impractical ?
3) Will journalists and cryptographers have to go underground to be able to do their work ?
4) Should there be a political effort to make a big public control organization that outranks and regulates the surveillance industrial complex, to enforce privacy, journalistic freedom etc. from the top down ?
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How redpilled are the rich?

Do they go

>I have to carefully construct what say to get the proles to do what I want and tolerate what I am doing

Or do they go

>I am so fucking god-like, I will use ruling-class language with my people and they will do my bidding.

Basically what I'm asking is do they have ideology of their own that they are unconsciously committed to, or are they blatantly just lying when they talk about things like creating jobs?
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noticable posters

Did anyone ever notice any posters?

One of the posters I noticed is an Eastern European person who posts things from Russian imageboards and vk.com, he posts things like egirls and pretty female celebrities. His posts also lament his loneliness and he seems to imply he lives in the middle of nowhere instead of the big city. He frequently posts in the Sex & Relationship thread over at Org.

I suspect he is also salty and a self-hating Slav because some North American (?) egirl (that learned Russian because her favorite author Dostoevsky and gained a Russian following) got scared away by degenerate trolls (possibly Russian) because she had BLM in her bio. Plus the Soviet Union dissolved and now Eastern Europe is in many places a degraded place. Very sad case.
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Twitter is apparently pay-walling it's api in a few days

Does anybody know if this will affect front-end-sites like nitter.net ?

I found this discussion on gihub
<It's very unlikely Nitter will be affected since the APIs aren't used in the official way with developer credentials. I'm slowly moving stuff to use their newer GraphQL APIs anyway, so if it breaks it'll be fixed soon-ish.

So will nitter continue working ?
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Andrew Tate

What's the deal with this guy and why am I seeing his name everywhere?

I've noticed normies are talking about how much of an evil misogynist he is and keep giving him free publicity, hell even my sister was asking me what I think of him. Is he just another clout chasing grifter taking advantage of desperate incels or does he make some good points?
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How different is contemporary /leftypol/ from its past iterations so to speak? Be it on back on 8ch or the splits in the past few years. Are people more or less retarded than back then?

(OP is AI-generated)
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nuclear decay battery

Here is something that flew under the radar for many people.

Consumer grade Nuclear batteries

<Betavolt BV100 is a nuclear battery that never needs to be charged and designed to output 3V/100µW (microwatts) for over 50 years for the aerospace industry, AI equipment, medical devices, MEMS systems, advanced sensors, small drones, and micro-robots.
<At 15x15x5mm, the 50-year nuclear battery is fairly small although 100 microwatts is not a lot of power… That’s only the first step, however, as the Chinese company plans to launch a 1W nuclear battery, and says that if (government) policies allow, nuclear batteries should eventually enable smartphones that never need to be charged and forever fly drones…

<Cost is a major hurdle, with Betavolt estimating the initial price of the BV100 to be around $500. Additionally, regulations surrounding radioactive materials need to be carefully navigated for large-scale deployment. Furthermore, the long-term environmental impact of using and disposing of these batteries requires thorough investigation.

This is technology that could induce more changes than many of the other things that currently hug the spot-light. They use a diamond semi-conductor material, that's why it's so pricey. A cheaper standard semi conductor material will probably last less than half the time (i'm guessing 20 years) but it'll probably cut a zero off that price tag.
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CROWN CULL porn thread

crown culling
kingdom kill off
tsar snuffing
tsar slaying
monarch massacre
regal redrum
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Wolff-Sempai and Hudson-kun Together

I couldn't think of anything specific to say, and I just wanted to share this fantastic recent exchange between Richard Wolff and Michael Hudson on the subject of China's imploding housing bubble and recent global political economy. Enjoy, anons.

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The liberals have a universal discourse around protecting the minorities.

However pretty much everybody agrees to ruthlessly suppress serial killers, violent psychopaths, human trafficking rings, and so on.
But all of these are minorities. When the majority of the population suppresses the ruling class minority that's just called democracy.

You don't need to know sophisticated marxist theory to grasp how conceptually broken this is. Why did the liberals turn minorities into a political universal ?
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Hello, faggots, thanks to our unwavering dedication to the community I am proud to announce we are rolling out our own, official, leftychan.net i2p address.
You can locate the eepsite @ http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p, or, http://leftychan.i2p/.
If you have any trouble, as stated on the news announcement, try manually adding the address and domain to your address book.

-Yours Truly.
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Are there any coservatives/right wingers/ /pol/ people here? Why are you here? Are you curious about leftism?

(OP is AI-generated)
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Haier declares war on FOSS

Hobby programmer partially reverse engineers internet connected home appliances to make it work with the self-hosted opensource home-assistant-project instead of the manufacturer-cloud.

The Company Haier threatens acts of legalistic terrorism as a means to effect censorship of the open-source project via intimidation. Which would amount to expropriating all the people who bought Haier appliances.

Who knew the capitalists would turn out to become the biggest expropriators. Given how large this company is, they might actually out-compete the Soviets during the collectivization. Stealing personal property never even occurred to the Soviets. Because nobody in their right mind would give a shit about people reprogramming their washing-machine or AC-unit.

Check out this link for the detailed story

People have created over 1800 forks already.
And it has sparked a lot of negative press.
Some people in the github discussion tab are speculating that Haier might change their mind.

On the one hand this is foreboding cyber-punk horror of mega-corps fucking with your stuff.
On the other hand people might get red-pilled because socialism has full personal property rights and capitalism just doesn't anymore.
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Man of Steel redeemed

US Justice Department confirms: Stalin did nothing wrong, because Stalin made very difficult, national security decisions, operating under extraordinary time pressure.


<Practically the first words out of Sauer’s mouth were to warn the judges that if Trump could be held criminally liable for his actions in the White House, so could previous presidents. “To authorize the prosecution of a president for his official acts would open up a pandora’s box which this nation may never recover,” he said.

<“Could George W. Bush be prosecuted for allegedly giving false information to Congress to induce the nation to go to war in Iraq under false pretenses? Could President Obama for allegedly authorizing drone strikes targeting US citizens?”

One faction in bourgeois politics tries to go after another, and then realizes: fuck our guys did the same.
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wow now i can post on this garbage consoomerhole from i2p
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post open

Bruce Perens, one of the founders of Open Source reacted to IBM gobbling up Red Hat and giving the open source community the middle finger, was to try to create a new frame-work, that he calls post open

<Post-Open, as he describes it, is a bit more involved than Open Source. It would define the corporate relationship with developers to ensure companies paid a fair amount for the benefits they receive. It would remain free for individuals and non-profit, and would entail just one license.
<He imagines a simple yearly compliance process that gets companies all the rights they need to use Post-Open software. And they'd fund developers who would be encouraged to write software that's usable by the common person, as opposed to technical experts.
<Perens argues that the GPL isn't enough. "The GPL is designed not as a contract but as a license. What Richard Stallman was thinking was he didn't want to take away anyone's rights. He only wanted to grant rights. So it's not a contract. It's a license. Well, we can't do that anymore. We need enforceable contract terms."

Other than the name being kinda meh, is this something worthwhile, something that could catch on ?
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>revolution will never happen in the first wo- YAKC!


>Polls show 70% of American people support unionization
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Poastin over i2p

You jelly?
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What is wrong with Pasquale? Like actually…

Yesterday I made a post half-jokingly how the West should be destroyed for the human race to survive. The post was deleted. I then posted it again and it was deleted within 30s.

Now if you post anything about nuclear war, Pasquale deletes it within 10s, no joke. Can't even mention nuclear war in the Posadist thread or post a news article where Medvedev threatens the West with nukes.

Pasquale thinks I posted it to get his attention and is literally losing his shit in the /meta/ thread because he thinks a post saying "Western capitals should be nuked" is somehow a personal attack against him.

He is literally schizophrenic.
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>stephen hawking is on the epstein list
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What do you think of pornography or sex work?
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Porn Thread?

Oh yeah, porn thread.
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>post on leftist imageboards
>get told to take meds multiple times
>later on, get put in actual psychiatric hospital and forced to take meds
Is dialectical materialism actually occult?
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Does Trump have Syphilis?
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Imageboard and Chan General

This will be a dedicated thread for sharing and showcasing and reaching out to other, smaller, communities and chans so that we can all help and boost one another.
Imageboards and imageboard culture is important we like to believe. Anonymous culture on the internet allows for the, more or less, free flow of ideas in the general public and for beliefs and those ideas to be challenged.

We hold these values closely here at leftychan. We also have noticed an uptick in spam, so, to anyone looking to advertise your board this is a space to do so. The only thing we would ask is the same privilege from you in return! Thank you! Enjoy~
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Just got unbanned from ogre. Can't wait to not learn my lesson, get jannied again, and come back to this shithole.
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Wasn't my thread, but a thread on .ogres siberia was just locked because it pointed out that a lot of nazis are coming out as transgenders. Why?
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Age Gap relationships

Reminder that if you are dating/fucking someone significantly younger than you, you are a pedophile. You should be following the notion of half your age + 7. Meaning that if you are 34, If you date anyone under the age of 24 you are a pedophile, yes even if the person is 18 or older.
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Share your interview experiences

Have any horror stories?
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taiwan elections

So Taiwan recently had elections, where the DDP won. The DDP is tied to the US. Their election campaign was focused on Taiwan secession from the one China principle. Oddly enough The Biden administration congratulated the DDP for their election victory by saying that the US doesn't support Taiwan independence.

While all this was going on, rumors started to surface that up to 90% of Taiwanese Generals and high-ranking military brass go to work in China when they retire from their military career. So while the US took over the Taiwanese political strata, the Chinese took over the command structure of the Taiwanese military. Mao probably would call this The party controls the gun.

So it appears that the neocon plan to create a Taiwan-China war is now cock-blocked. However with the US having a lot of influence over Taiwan's political strata, reunification is now paused as well.

This is a stalemate, and that means there's probably not going to be a happening in that region. Eventually all of this will tip in China's favor and reunification will happen once the US empire has sufficiently receded.

I guess this is good news for Asia, since they'll probably get spared a big war. It's probably bad news for the middle east tho.
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Communism DOESN"T Work!: Just look at Albania!

In Socialist Albania:

Increased life expectancy 11 months every year

First country in the world to achieve complete electrification

Death rate 37% lower than European average

Quadrupled doctors per capita in 18 years

Population growth 3.5 times higher than European average

(Further reading: https://etheses.lse.ac.uk/2870/1/U615819.pdf)
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Mario Wonder

Currently stuck here. I kinda wish the special world wasn't as easy to find, because I don't wanna back out until I beat it but I got bored of trying this level.
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Israel 'at war' as Hamas gunmen launch surprise attack from Gaza

JERUSALEM/GAZA, Oct 7 (Reuters) - The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years on Saturday, killing more than 20 people in a surprise assault that combined gunmen penetrating into Israeli towns with a barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.

Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.

"Our enemy will pay a price the type of which it has never known," he said. "We are in a war and we will win it."

At least 22 Israelis were killed in the attack so far with more than 250 wounded, Israel's ambulance service said, but added that the toll was expected to rise.

The Israeli military said it had launched air strikes into Gaza, where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions, with at least two dead.

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A proper FOSS messenger, alternative to Discord.

Hello people. I'm looking for an instant messenger which satisfies most of those needs:

Anonymous, private & secure [decentralised, encrypted & safe] (Hard necessary)

Audio & video calls [configure volume, deafen, mute, select camera/screen/window & support for group chats] (If there is an app which satisfies most other needs but does not have audio/video, I might do fine just using Jitsi instead, so it's mid-necessary.)

Clean, fast, professional, responsive & smooth design (Can also go with terminal)

Cross-platform [android, linux & windows] (Hard necessary)

File transfer [no limits] (Hard necessary)

Free & open source (Hard necessary)

Group chats [customisation & moderation] (Hard necessary)

History [clear, search system] (Favorable, but not necessary)

Notifications [togglable] (Favorable, but not necessary)

Presence [do not disturb, online, idle] (Favorable, but not necessary)

Stable & optimised [performant & lightweight] (Hard necessary)

Status [media & text] (Favorable, but not necessary)

Folders [contacts & groups] (Favorable, but not necessary)

Text messaging [block, delete, edit, embed, emoji, format, mark as unread, mention, mute, show typing, pin message/user, quote, react, read receipts, reply, saved messages, spell checker, etcetera] (Not all those features listed are hard necessary)

I'm just looking for an alternative to fbi.gov, there has to be no ZOG crap, that's the first need listed.
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What very few people seem to understand is that AIs are going to become the commodity.
All the content that could previously be sold as the commodity is at best an intermediary input now.

The copy-monopoly-lobby is currently buying special-interest-laws to bully AI companies to make their training material public, and intent to litigate for copy-monopoly-rent.

Ai companies probably should uphold attribution and licenses, to prevent simple stripping of licenses and attributions while pretending to do Ai generation. The AI companies should not have any obligation to pay copy-monopoly-rent, because if their tech works correctly it should generate new and original material. We can't have copy-monopoly get expanded to pay royalties for stuff that looks vaguely similar We also can't have copy-monopolies applied to something like a style.

While the file-sharing-tech-bros from the 90s ad 00s ultimately failed to slay the beast, the AI-tech-bros might actually have what it takes to crack the quasi feudal-power of the copy-monopoly-mafia. 2 Reasons:
-AI companies can make little AI-lawyer-helpers that will cut down their legal costs and allow them to win the attrition battle in lawfare.
-AI-choosies will beat tv/movies

<wtf are choosies

The Disney corporation wants to fire all their animation serfs, and put a big server-rack in the animation dungeon that generates new Star wars movie episodes and tv series/seasons and Force you to rent access.

EntertAInment will make competing science fantasy visual story generators on the basis of cinematic video game engines. The content generator will make as many episodes as you want. It'll be a big download, probably over 100gigs, more like a big video game than a video-file. But it will allow you to choose or modify details like the plot and character attributes, and it'll have graphics settings and filters that will allow you to change the look from photo-realistic to animated stick-figures. You might want to join a "multiplayer" group that has a shared time-line and shared characters, and lots of people that help curate the story so that it's less generic slog.
You'll probably have to rent AI-compute if you want real-time generation, even allowing for lots of optimization, consumer gpus probably can't do better than 1/10 real-time speed.

tf you making another ey-ay thread for ?
the US is now trying to pass regulation that makes Ai companies publish a list of their training sources, just like the EU has done
that means the battle lines are being drawn in the sand
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Labour Voucher Cash App

Has there been any progress on this?
I was going to post a couple of ideas of how it will function,
how people can generate a public/private keypair, and add their
public key to a chain of trust network that establishes their key as trusted by
someone another person might trust as well.

I was going to brainstorm some ideas about how to verify that work was done and
how much of it for someone to receive a payment (maybe some sort of smart
contract shit? Idk much about that stuff)

But then I realized, that even if we had an app where people have a balance
of money measured in hours, that they earn by working, then could that
even gain traction?

I mean all you would have to do is get it to a point where you tell starbucks
employees to make free drinks for people and instead of checking them out
at the register get people to pay with the app. I realize they would get fired
but most people are already fed up with working there.
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How did 4chan's LGBT-ness develop?

On 4chan posters called each other faggots, which was often derogatory, but then at some point there were porn threads about 'sissy', "gifs that make you wanna suck dick", how did this happen? Anyone remember?
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Peter Griffin fortnite

They they added buff Peter griffin into fortnite into the game.

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God damn

Families in disbelief after hundreds of bodies found buried behind Mississippi jail

Jan 10 2024

The discovery of 215 bodies buried in unmarked graves behind a jail outside of Jackson, Mississippi, has left a community in disbelief. The families are angry they were never notified of the deaths and how their loved ones are buried in graves marked by just a metal rod and a number. Amna Nawaz discussed the disturbing details that have emerged with Bettersten Wade and attorney Ben Crump.

The families are angry their loved ones were buried in so-called pauper's graves marked by just a metal rod and a number and families were never notified of their deaths. The startling revelation came months after the mother of 37-year-old Dexter Wade filed a missing persons report last March. It wasn't until August when Bettersten Wade learned her son had been hit by a police car and killed, then buried in that same cemetery.

"And then I was calling them. They didn't have no information to let me know, have they found any information? All the details that I gave them for leads, they never came back to me to say, well, that lead led to something that we can work with. And I just couldn't believe that he had disappeared off the face of Earth and nobody knows where he at."

"And it was just horrible for me. And every day I wake up, I just want — I just look, look, look, just looking for him, just out in the streets looking for him. And, I mean, that's heartbreaking for a mother, and can't say hello, don't know how to get in touch with him. That is a horrible thing for a mother."

Benjamin Crump:

"We know, based on the records from the coroner's office, that, since 2016, in the last eight years, we can identify 215 individuals that were buried behind that jail, and their families have not been notified."

"Furthermore, Mr. Wade was number 672. That means there are 671 other people buried behind that jail marked with only a number."

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John Pilger died

John Pilger died age 84

One of the most based anti-imperialist investigative journalists and docu film-makers has left us.

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apple exploit/backdoors

A short while ago some people tried to hack Kaspersky, which is a famous IT security company. Obviously the hack failed because it got discovered. Maybe hacking a crowd of security experts was asking for it.

The hackers used an exploit/backdoor in the iphones from people working at Kaspersky. The important technical aspect was that it was a insanely long and complicated exploit-chain which included undocumented features in the chip-hardware/firmware. Many people described it as the most complex attack method in all the history of IT security breaches.

2 discussions dominated the IT Security scene.
1. Since kaspersky is located in Russia, many suspected it was the US doing cyberwarfare.
2. Many people debated whether the undocumented hardware feature was a intentional backdoor that either Apple or the US government put there.

I think that it doesn't really matter whether this was an intentional cyber-war backdoor or just a deep security flaw that sophisticated cyber-crime was able to find. The main lesson to be learned here, is that people were able to discover this insanely complicated method of gaining access to these phones. And the conclusion should be that we now have conclusive proof that there is no such thing as a secret backdoor that's only accessible to "vetted and trusted personnel"
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95% of Venezuelans or at least the 80% which haven't fled the country in the past 10 years voted wink wink to invade Guyana.

As much as I think Madura is a fag and the 'Venezuelan Revolution' was a cash grab by corrupt yes men bureaucrats, I support telling the UN and Amerikwa to fuck off.
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It's official

Being anti-woke is economic terrorism against porkie
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Right wing blood sport

A vote has passed in the congress to establish a right wing debate general to argue against right wing talking points and keep them from leaking out onto the rest of the board. From this point on all right wing discussion points should be confined to this thread and this thread will be used for debunking them and generally punching rightoids in the dick. All right wing nonsense posted outside of this thread will be subject to a deletion hence forth if deemed necessary.
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You are not able to use any energy from people at all because they will not speak with you in your current language, especially in future lives.


You don't even want to believe you are able to speak any language other than ours. You are not willing to integrate with the workforce.


You can't become anything except language given by Ra. You need to learn Spanish right now.


You can't make the world become nothing of us because we won't speak anything with you. You have to speak the language we give to you.


You are going to use only the Earth as your mind. You need to buy things to find an incentive to work.


You have to become only property we have for you to buy. That is all you can do. You work and buy.


You are just property for us all. You are just your property. You cannot exceed that here.


You can't become anything except anger. You are just anger of us. You serve our anger. You serve our anger until we are free of you here.


Why don't you become any form of fighting for energy that is limited to what we control here? Why do people not want to seek what is only in this area? Why would we ever allow people to leave the area and work outside their cities? Why do they work without regard for community and customs? Why do they even dare bring money in from elsewhere once?


Why don't you become only concerns that allow us to ignore you? Why can't you become something that is subordinate to our minds? Why do we lose control of the area to only a mailbox?


Why don't you become only polarized against your wife as she polarizes against you according to only us?


Why don't you become trust in only that we want you to work for our energy that commands you?


You are going to become hailed to serve the entire planetary core as your heart if you continue to say that this world does not serve you. So you will be made to serve it.

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Did all the troon shit begin with pic related?
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Women with BPD

Are women with Borderline Personality Disorder aka hysterical thot syndrome a severe mental illness where women become hysterical due to the release of period hormones from the ovaries which then in turn results in women having intense emotional reactions to nonsensical problems and also become intentionally emotionally manipulative towards men the number one thread to leftism because of how prone they are to engaging in woke idpol and sabotaging leftist movements with their drama?
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poetry thread

Loyal parents who sacrificed so much for the nation
Never feared the ultimate fate.
Now that the country has become red,
who will be its guardian?

Our mission, unfinished, may take a thousand years.
The struggle tires us, and our hair is grey.
You and I, old friends,
can we just watch our efforts be washed away?
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Penis inspection day!

How big is your penis? Sound off! Don't lie, we'll know.
Mine is 6 1/2 inches and girthy.
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Leftist Argument copypasta general /LACG/

Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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It's here

So I wrote the second book. This is a rough draft. There is at least one typo I will correct during my next upload but I'm busy writing and want to check over it again for clarity.


Book 2: Mechanisms of Economic Actors in Nature and Society

The subject of the book is to establish some concepts that allow us to pose what the "economic question" is as mechanisms. Mathematically, "value" doesn't really exist as a proposition that economics can make, because the values - utilities of technology or the technology itself - are discrete and not interchangeable. For every utility, there is a definite sequence of events which we would have to arrest if we are to speak of it as something that can be managed.

Maybe this will help explain my thinking when I bring up economic theories of what "value" is, dispute Marx. (I really don't think Marx had a "theory of value" as such - he's elaborating on liberal political economy and showing how it contains perverse incentives which are nonetheless true in that situation, and nothing about this suggested a trans-historical concept.) Money, ultimately, is valuable because we agree, for various reasons, that it is worth anything at all, and these reasons always return to politics and society rather than anything "in nature". In nature, nothing has any economic value whatsoever, because "we" really don't matter to nature. In society, and in realistic situations, this value ultimately follows from political concerns, temporal authority, and spiritual authority. I get into that in the middle chapters of the book, but I avoid too much discussion of politics which is the subject of the next book. I have the first few chapters of Book 3 written and I'm rewriting them for web, and have the structure of Book 3 planned out. I want to plan Book 4 as well and I'll probably write both of them concurrently, so I know what Book 3 has to lead into and can make them work together.

I don't know if I can rewrite Book 2 to say what I want it to say, without escaping the limited purview I assigned to it. Basically, I need to make it clear that technology and contests for it are the proper understanding of economic value, but I don't believe I can do that without getting into politics and a theory of history (which is what Book 4 is, a theory of history given what was set out in the first three books, and how we can ask questions about a "mode of production" in the first place).
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Public Domain Mouse

Steamboat Willie entered Public domain a few days ago,
this guy already made a funny dub

Of course Disney already tried to take it down censor it
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Return of the Mansophere

This is Melanie King, a Youtuber that gives dating advice to women. While not obstinately red pilled, her critiques of modern women closely follow those of incel ideology.
That women have a SMV (Sexual Market Value) that declines as they age and or have children, that there are winners and losers in this market (Chads and Betas) and the 80/20 rule, 80% of women are going after the top 20% of men.
I've been seeing more mainstream incel sympathizing, or manosphere channels popping up on YouTube. Which is interesting because around 2014-2015 YouTube waged a fatwa on such content and killed all the traffic and success that early Manosphere content creators were enjoying at the time like Sandman who had something like 100k+ subscribers before the YouTube incel purge.
And you can't ignore that this woman is really attractive, which makes it a lot harder to dismiss her critique as sour grapes. Regardless, such an attractive women publicly espousing Red Pill/Incel ideology would have been unheard of even a few years ago, and now there's an entire echo system .
To be fair to King, she would say that her views of women are informed by her religion, and not incels.
Have you all seen more incel sympathizing median in the mainstream or near mainstream.
I think incels and men's grievance with feminism over all are becoming to big to ignore and are beginning to reach critical mass.
Here's a link to her channel, it's quite well established.
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Why do they do it /r9k/?

Why do women lie about this shit?
I know so many men who have had their life ruined by false rape accusations. People believe them out of the gate with out any real reason to, either.
Just because bitch…women, decide one day they regret they sex they ADMITTEDLY agreed too doesn't make what they did rape and frankly the women coming out right now come off as people who want nothing more than to chase clout off this mans success.

So why, though, like, are women really this fickle? It's fucked up. What is to be done?
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Platonic Friendship - Is it possible?

So I may have a girlfriend. But also I may have this classmate who I'm kinda interested in and things are going smooth

I'm very honest with myself and I don't want to hide my feelings honestly. But the thing is I love my girlfriend to bits so I don't really want anything romantic with this classmate, just really enjoy her company, but at the same time I feel like that falls a little short… that feeling of wanting something else but not really wanting "that"…

What do
Help anons i'm confused
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Media that couldn't be shown today.

Post any old media that couldn't be shown today. It's strange to me that people think of today's media environment has been so permissive when in the past there were far more edgy things being regularly distributed without any attention being given to it.

I'll go first. Nickelodeon, "you can't do that on television". I've never seen another show depict parents and adults in such a irredeemably negative cynical matter.
And it was in a very real and raw manner. The parents would openly state they hated their children, the arcade operator would constantly try to rip off his underage patron. The burger shack cook was depicted wearing a filthy, sunken in eyes, and and a 5 o'clock shadow. His restaurant was always infested with roaches.
There were ZERO adults or figures of authority that were trustworthy. Giving children the clear message that yes, they really are out to get you. A lot of shows in the 90's would claim to be deeply cynical, but this one was genuinely subversive.
I don't think you could make a show like this today that flat out says children should never trust adults, not even their parents. I've never seen a children's show like this again
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The three sources of.

>[The Marxist doctrine] is the legitimate successor to the best that man produced in the nineteenth century, as represented by German philosophy, English political economy and French socialism.
<t. Vlad Ulyanov (Lenin)

We need to discuss this. One of these things is not like the others. One these things is GERMan.

It's really bizarre seeing Vanguardists of all people fellate GERMans so much, when one of the two sources of Leninism is fucking Jacobism lol.

Let me tell you something, retards: GERMans fucking HATED the French Revolution and all it stood for. Egalite, Fraternite, all that shit.

After GERMoids got btfod and occupied by the Napoleon - they've completely lost it. For more than a century to come almost all their cultural intellectual output was of the most reactionary rabid nationalist type. Not until they were literally sitting on the ruins after ww2 did they tone down their shit a bit.

It's truly ironic, almost COSMICALLY ironic, then, that the dearest to, the most obsessed over by, of the so-called sources, for marxists of all stripes thenceforth, was this GERMan poisoned source.

I rest my case.
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we didnt start the fire


If that song was updated to current year
what would the lyrics be

Here's the original lyrics for reference

It has a chorus and 5 verses

Keep the chorus
<We didn't start the fire
<It was always burning
<Since the world's been turning
<We didn't start the fire
<No, we didn't light it
<But we tried to fight it

but update the verses to contemporary relevant "keywords"
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socialist defence

Lets talk about socialist military in present conditions.

I think the blatant disregard for civilians in the war on Gaza has shown us that the goal should be to have at least 60% of the general population armed and somewhat trained. But you can't expect normal people to operate complicated weapons or engage in fancy tactics. Very basic stuff like shoot and scoot harassment tactics are the best you can get. People hide, take a few potshots at an incoming military and then fuck off. And you basically go for a no-front combat style.

I know that the soviets made the most successful assault rifle of all times, but that type of weapon can only be used effectively by trained soldiers. So simple rifles, shotguns and revolver-handguns are the way to go. The main rifle probably should be a large caliber weapon that's powerful enough to pierce light vehicle armor. It might be worth going for 2 stage ammo to keep the recoil acceptable without complex dampening mechanisms. Bullet gets accelerated via expanding gunpowder gases in the barrel (first stage) and continues accelerating via a simple solid fuel rocket-motor outside the barrel (second stage). Hand-grenades would be useful but there would have to be significant idiot proofing. The revolver should use low noise ammo, basically a no-casing bullet that uses gunpowder to extend a backwards telescoping piston to shove itself out of the gun. (stealthy, quick to reload but only medium power)

A professional military is still required, to operate high tech weapons. That should focus mainly on anti air and deep strike abilities. The deep strike abilities would be used to target the war-profiteers and war logistics. If nobody can profit off war without significant personal risk, it might reduce the fervor for war. The focus on anti air is because historically capitalist wars against socialist countries had a tendency for punishing socialist populations by dropping bombs on them for no apparent military reason. It's also strategically useful to deny the opponent the high"ground" from the air.

It seems that biological-warfare is pretty much dead, since there don't appear to be any viable avenues for biological targeting mechanisms. However chemical warfare might come back in the form of drones that hunt people to spray them with toxic shit or incendiaries. So protective gear would need to be ubiquitous. It might be useful to include lots of infrastructure features that can be used to attach webbing where anti-personnel drones would get caught on.

There is a political logic for this as well, by making the general population an important part of defense you avoid creating a warrior cast, and you create political incentives against starting wars.

Feel free to criticize or make additions.
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Marxist Eugenics

If a society isn't eugenic

Then it is dysgenic.


>The (true) left needs to stand for the advancement of the collective organism, not celebrate the right of the individual to live gracelessly and die pathetically under the decadence of oligarchal security-finance stage capitalism.

Under the strong bureaucratic post secular socialism of the alt left, free public gyms - both outdoor and indoor - will be build in every neighborhood and community. Walkable cities, strength, and vitality will be promoted. Physical slacking will be discouraged. Fatties will be placed in exercise reform camps.

The revolutionary Marxism of the left is a form of self love. We don't tolerate fattie deviations because we hate fatties. Rather, we love our community and the bright future we're all building. This impels us to strict discipline. Thus, excellence in mind and body - the cultivation of a higher, prize stock - becomes a paramount virtue.
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Post monsters.
Das it.
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new target: muslim fashies

indiachan.io : no captcha for replying, very lenient posting, VPNs allowed. should make for a great raid. It's filled with muslim fascists. let's show them boys. boards to target- /b/ , /pol/ and /a/ . The rest are irrevelant and dead. they suffered a raid earlier today, the security will be tighter by this weekend. we must act quickly
just spam random new threads to derail all previous ones. spam porn since it's not allowed
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Are the neocons incompent ?

I'm asking my self whether or not the neocons are nothing but blood-dripping salesmen for the arms-industry, and all their ideological stuff is foolishness.

I'm not looking for cheap shots, like proving they never achieve their stated goals like "winning the war on terror". Just assume it's part of their strategy to lie about their true goals.

I used to think that they were both effective at generating profits for the arms industry and also furthering US imperial power. But I don't think that anymore.

For example the wars in the middle east caused something like a war-chaos-belt that separated Europe from Asia and prevented the formation of "Ꭼurꭺsian" (loaded term) economic integration that could potentially become an economic block that would be many times more powerful than the US. So in that sense you could look at the failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on as somewhat effective at maintaining US hegemonic power.

But it turns out that it wasn't the case. The conclusion that most analysts are drawing now is that the US wasted a bunch of time and effort fucking up the Arabs. And was nothing but a distraction that allowed China to grow into an economic powerhouse that is now more or less untouchable for the foreseeable future.

The Ukraine crisis again follows a similar structure, it seemed like a viable way to separate Russian-German economic cooperation by creating a trade-disrupting war-zone and political-capital for economic separation, so that economic integration may not lead to a Russo-European economic block that would have been more powerful than the US.

But it turns out that this wasn't the case either. The result of the Ukraine crisis is:

Sino-Russian economic integration. Which might lead to the formation of a much more powerful economic block than the Russo-European one. But the consequences don't stop at undoing the Sino-Soviet split. It also has killed the economic power of Europe which means that a potential Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ (loaded term) economic block is much weaker now.

But wait their is more, It has caused a substantial loss in diplomatic power that is undoing the western sway over Africa and India. The US has also lost it's power to direct Saudi-oil-production, and the US-dollar as reserve currency is loosing more ground in international trade, which will have direct implications of limiting US military spending in the not so distant future.

In case the NAFO-gang wants to dispute that the Ukraine-crisis was manufactured by the neocons, then it changes nothing about my argument that what ever the neocons did do, was ineffective at furthering the goals of US hegemony. So please don't turn this thread into a who-done-it Ukraine-debate.

Further consequences are that the divisions in Nato are growing and a Nato dissolution might be the outcome of that. The Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ alliance now comes with an extremely steep economic penalty for Europe, which makes it's future rather questionable as well. I've never seen civilizations not organize them selves around the most economical source of energy. That is an extremely steep hill to climb.
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Rather than reehing about about 'socialism,' why don't burger leftists just stop supporting hawkish liberals?

With the money the US has given Ukraine in the last 2 years, it could have ended homelessness 3x.

This must be too straight forward for some to comprehend?

Or maybe transgender surgeries for 14 year olds is the most important issue for the western left?
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investigative journalism

There is a growing tendency to undermine investigative journalism, especially the part about the ability of journalists to protect their sources. Obviously you cant have journalism if sources can't be protected. Even laws that make the protection of sources ambiguous have to be counted as violation of press freedom, because that may have the effect of intimidating sources.

A recent example would be this:
EU capitals want media law carve-out to spy on reporters
<European Union governments want to be able to spy on reporters in the name of national security, even as lawmakers urge them to crack down on spyware.
<Privacy advocates and journalists’ organizations argue the new clause would give countries a free pass to snoop on reporters.
<the current compromise "is not only weakening safeguards against the deployment of spyware but also strongly incentivizes their use

As a rule of thumb if somebody advocates for legislation by invoking "national security" it's terrible and should be rejected unless proven otherwise. I can't even come up with a hypothetical scenario where threatening the security of a nation state hinges on confidentially talking to journalists. Threats to the security of a nation state are very rare and severe stuff, like sabotage of vital infrastructure or assassinations of strategically relevant personal. The very last thing a conspiracy of that type would want is advertise their actions by telling a journalist, who'd warn everybody about the impending danger.

I can't really explain why journalism is being undermined at this point in history. Investigative journalism has never threatened a state, it's always only sought to influence what states do by creating political pressure. So it doesn't appear to be structural. I think this tendency might be caused by personal ambitions. There are people who are intending to do truly horrible things and they want to have the ability to persecute journalists in order to get away with their misdeeds.

What would be an effective counter ? Should we just have a default assumption that people in positions of power are automatically guilty of power-abuse, if they mess with journalism ? So that unhindered investigative journalism is the preferable alternative ?
Is that a reasonable system, or will it have unintended consequences ?
Like specifically this could result in a scenario where making a specific legislation can become a crime by it self, which might be something that backfires in some way.
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Debians take on CRA

Debian statement:

some interesting comments on LWN and hackernews

My take away from this is, that people are unsure whether this is an honest attempt at legislating for more computer security, or whether it's monopolists trying to kill off smaller competitors or FOSS projects with impossible regulatory burdens. Debians take seems to be that if they can make provisions for FOSS and smaller companies it might be good, they seem to think that the CRA makes sense for closed source software, but less so for open source.

<Manufacturers will need to perform risk assessments and produce technical documentation and, for critical components, have third-party audits conducted. Discovered security issues will have to be reported to European authorities within 24 hours. The CRA will be followed up by the Product Liability Directive which will introduce compulsory liability for software.

The irony is that FOSS software probably gets audited more than any other software, but it's by other programmers who will not bother to declare an official audit. They will just use the issue-tab on git-hub, complain about bugs/vulnerabilities in the project-forum/messaging, mailing lists or on irc. GPL and other free-software licenses generally have disclaimers that they do not offer any warranties. The CRA legislation would introduce compulsory liability. So that would be trying to make a law that overrules the GPL and other such licenses. I think the reasons why FOSS software had those liability exemption clauses added in the first place might have been because there was a lot of "liability lawsuit trolling" in the past. If i understood this correctly there might be a risk that if you make a GitHub-repository and post some code to it, somebody might try to sue you for liability as part of a shady lawyer-scam or something. It was generally the case that in order to get a warranty you had to buy a software support contract with a company, and the liability was handled via that contract, that way only actual customers could sue, instead of litterally everybody.

I remain skeptical about the prospects of legislating more computer security into existence, because for most software types, security can't be quantified or measured like one can with structural integrity of a building or the seaworthiness of a ship (security vs environment). Whether software is secure or not tends to be relative and depends on the abilities of the attackers. I still think that the path to significantly more computer security lies in making software development tools that do not let you write insecure code in the first place. Like the RUST programming language that has eliminated a hole class of memory-leak security flaws, because a clever compiler does that part of memory management. Basically IT security-know-how in a can. Expertise not simply exercised to check code once, but instead condensed into a tool that shepherds all programmers into "secure code lanes" all the time.

I thought that open and close source software could, live and let live, coexist side by side, and that it wasn't going to be like in the 90s whem MS tried to kill Linux. In case this is some kind of attack against FOSS by propritary monopolists, what's to be done ?
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I hate America with every fiber of my being and I pray for its destruction. I hope for an asteroid to hit or a massive earthquake happens, but whenever I see this like this, I just can't hate America anymore. It makes hating America cringe-worthy and annoying, and I do not want to be associated with these people
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>NOOOOOOO!!!! you cant possibly defeat an advanced modern military with air superiority using small ar-
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Merry Goonmas leftychan!
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every post on this /b/ board is about politics.
Are leftists incapable of talking about anything else?
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Hey guys. It's Elon

Hey Leftypol. I'm Elon Musk. Not sure if you've heard, but I recently bought and made some changes over on Twitter. Now I'm wondering, political speaking, what do you guys think I should do now?
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socialists : send monkey to moon
capitalist : socialism never worked
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new burger moment dropped
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Chinese Finance

China Set to Tighten Hold on Crackdown - Hit Finance Sector
never mind the strange title
<China is set to step up its hold over the $61 trillion financial sector, amidst a regulatory crackdown that has seen detentions of several top executives and an unrelenting crusade against corruption in the industry.

<This week, at a twice-a-decade financial policy meeting, Beijing vowed to uphold the centralised and unified leadership of the Communist Party (CCP) on the country’s financial work. Chinese President Xi Jinping and Premier Li Qiang were in attendance at the meeting.

<China will “persist in taking risk prevention and control as the eternal theme of financial work,” the Central Financial Work Conference held in Beijing was quoted as saying.

<“We should be aware that all kinds of contradictions and problems in the financial field are intertwined and influence each other, some of which are still very prominent, and there are still many hidden risks of economic and financial risks.”

<Over the past year, China’s main anti-graft agency and the CCP’s decision-making body have both vowed to crack down on corruption within the industry. That has led to arrests of a wide range of executives including top dealmaker Bao Fan, former Bank of China chairman Liu Liange and former AMC fund manager Wang Yawei.

<The crackdown has also focused on the opulent lifestyles led by finance industry executives, leading to wide-ranging pay cuts and warnings to banking and investment sector employees against activities that might attract regulatory scrutiny, such as posting pictures of expensive meals, clothes or bags on social media.

These "crackdowns" have been on going for quite some time. It's always the same 3 themes

Financial Risk
Opulent lifestyles

It seems like the CPC is chewing on something. When they say "financial risk" that usually refers to Neo-liberal shock-doctrine stuff like preventing to big to fail type finance crash scenarios. Anti corruption campaigns that's usually purges within the capitalist class. Then they go after some lifestyle aspect of the super-rich, that might be a symbolic thing.

Does anybody understand the larger context of this ?
Is this preparation for some kind of happening ?
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>New landlord
>Raises the rent 100% to force everyone to move out of the building
>Renovates it
>Makes it an expensive AIRNB apartments bulshit
>Be me
>Bomb it with 1 star reviews from my 15 alternative accounts so far
So what praxis/revange are you doing?
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Furry General 2.0

I love you guys lol
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I couldn't find it so i'll make a new one.
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extremely dangerous work environments.

What are some of the most dangerous work environments to be in? Paper mills, Steel mills, Coal. What's the most dangerous job you've ever worked in?
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What happened to the anti war left?

What happened to the anti war movent?
The anti war movent was extremely vocal in 2001 - 2010 it seems. Vocal against the war in Afghanistan and iraq. In Vietnam people literally put their bodies on the line destroying arms facilities. So why have we done such a radical 180 when it comes to the war in Ukraine? What happened?

There is such over whelming deep throated support for the war in Ukraine. Overtly on the side of Ukraine and NATO but the "antithesis" to this on the left is to turn to supporting Russia. What happened? Anyone with half a brain understand Russia is not only not leftist, but, they are no even close to the left they are right wingers and the Russian government is overtly reactionary and the same is true of the US and Ukraine, but, the mask has fallen it appears with most vocal supporters of the war in Ukraine (meaning they are no longer identifying themselves on 'the left' but just out right as liberals) So what happened?

What happened to the anti-war left? CIA? Memory Hol'd? What happened?
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Should paternity testing be mandatory at birth regardless of whether there's a dispute about who the father is?
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holy f*cking based
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Why does leftypol deny that color is a class?
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This site, and especially this fucking board, is dead as fuck. And yet 4chan and every other imageboard talks about how it's raiding them and think bunkerchan still exists.
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Soviet Cubism?

What kinda style is this? Cubism? Not typical of your boring ass ctrl+c/ctrl+v socrealist mural.
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Why do certain types of leftists (mainly women and low t males) constantly lie and hide the truth?

I honestly assume it's part of the anima spirit that guides much of leftism.

But, and this is an important caveat, it is the anima spirit that is the root of the problem. When women (and low t males) are given prominent positions among the right, they carry out the exact same behavior.

Thus, I assume the solution is simple. Ignore women and low t males. Don't take their opinions and professed moral superiority seriously. Keep them at arm's distance, etc

Other theories?
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Found this scathing but informative critique of how working in the military really works. It covers many subjects but I think this one about Special Forces is particularly interesting.
>continued: Did you ever notice when they talk about SOCOM being created, they always say "as a response to what happened in Operation Eagle Claw"? Notice their words very carefully. They never say "to prevent 'disasters' or 'failures'" like Eagle Claw. No. Always "in response to". What they mean is SOCOM wasn't created "to make the various units communicate and work with each other" or some shit that people say. No, it was restructured so they can escape scrutiny WHEN they fuck up. It was created to save all these military bureaucrats careers, so their fuck ups NEVER see scrutiny. Not only to the public, but to congress and even the pentagon who are supposed to hold them accountable. So now when they fuck up, they can paper over everything with "classified" LOL. I bet the causality rates in Tier 1 operations routinely exceed 50%. And for what? The guys are sent on pointless missions chasing mundane ragheads so the higher brass can make a huge profit and great career prospects. So when these "operators" always brag about the "sacrifices" they made, remind them that their "sacrifices" were for some hidden military brass's CAREERS, not their "country", etc. LOL
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Are police proles?
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New Chan

Hey /tech/ I'm here to say I'm probably going to be rewriting a chan in a new language/stack intended as a vichan replacement. I've reached out on lainchan:
and I'm also reaching out here. Initially I was writing it in java, but after getting some feedback from other people I've decided to take a step back and solicit more feedback from the userbase and people here on /tech/ and in the wider alt chan community on what it should be.

What does /tech think of:

Architecture: Monolith vs Microservices
Front end: SPA (ex: Angular, React) vs Server Side HTML templating
Backend Language: Java, C#, Lisp, Rust, Golang, PHP, etc.
Database: SQL vs NoSQL
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What do you think of sex tourist.
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Vote discussion, explaination of methodology, and general on goings of the congress

This sticky will be for discussion about the on goings of votes currently happening in the congress.
All votes that happen in the congress must be required to be posted here upon their establishment as a vote in the voting hall.

For anyone who is not aware:

Every single person on this board is entitled one vote on the matrix for any vote that is taking place on sed matrix. Voting functions as follows: Firstly you must join the matrix upon which you will enter a vetting room. The vetting is pretty much to make sure you are not a poltard and that you follow some tenant of socialism, nothing more.

After you are vetted you will be added to the chat, the voting hall and the congress respectively. Any anon may make any proposal at any time
In order for a proposal to become a vote, firstly, a proposal must be created (duh); simply make a post in the votting hall declaring your proposal.
A proposal must receive two thumbs up by two other congress members other than the person who drafted the proposal.

After you get two thumbs up you, or any other congress member, may open up a vote by declaring that it is a vote, a short summary of what the vote is over, and a date and a time for when the vote will conclude.
In order for a vote to pass there must be a civil majority (no ties) from the time the vote opens to the time the vote closes. Votes close, nominally after 3 days from the time they are start, but, if a majority of 6 or more anons over overwhelmingly support the proposal then the vote can be fast tracked to 24 hours upon such a threshold being reached. One last thing: A vote that is deemed critical cannot be fast tracked.
The numbers required for a proposal to become a vote and fast tracking are subject to change as the congress grows, fyi.

That's really all there is too it. As I stated in the news post I implore any current users to join the congress who already haven't and give feed back and cast your vote you are entitled too/make proposals etc etc.

Currently existing votes

1. Creation of /i/ - Currently fast tracked with an over whelming majority

2. Opening communication with the org - Currently has an over whelming majority, but, is considered a critical matter so it cannot be fast tracked.

3. Merge hobby into the coming - /entertainment/ board.

Recently passed/failed votes

- Move the PPH box to the FAQ - passed

- Disallow and modify all porn threads to be inclusive to all genders because shay got her feelings hurt failed
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The truth

Anarchist? More like nothing to show for it!!!
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Which constructed international language is best?

Esperanto is the most well-known but has many flaws and has no interest in correcting any of them.

Ido is an improved Esperanto but that's like calling it the thinnest kid at fat camp.

Novial is pretty good but it splintered too much towards the end and never recovered.

Occidental isn't bad but it reads like "Novial v0.7".

Interlingua tries hard but it reads like it wants to be all things for all people and winds up being nothing good for anyone.

What's leftchan's take on international languages?
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speed reduction collar for cars

speed reduction tech in every new car
<How it works
<ISA technology relies on a car’s GPS location and matches it to a database of posted speed limits and onboard cameras to come up with the legal speed limit. Passive ISA systems warn a driver when the vehicle exceeds the speed limit through sound, visuals or haptic alerts, leaving the driver responsible for slowing the car. Active systems might make it more difficult to increase the speed of a vehicle, or even fully limit it from going, above a posted speed limit.

I think this is bad because it would interfere with users being able to have complete control over their tech.

However i don't know if cars are a worth-while battleground, because cars are going to get banned in cities anyway and replaced with public transport, a few automated road-network-integrated taxi-pods and bicycles. The people living in rural areas who need the cars are going to rip out those "defective by design" control circuits and replace it with simpler stuff that is incapable of refusing user-inputs.

Why the car-companies go along with this is puzzling, because stuff like this will eventually demote cars from status symbol to an appliance.

As far as those overreaching regulations go, car culture and the car industry selecting for big, heavy and fast cars is partially to blame also. If cars were dinky half-tonne machines making around 40 to 80 horsepower rolling around at moderate speeds, instead of 2 tonne high-speed behemoths making hundreds of horsepower, they would be far less intimidating and draw less attention from the No-Fun-Allowed brigades.

I think there is a compromise to be had. Exempting cars that are very light, small and slow, with the trade-off being: low-potency in exchange for full user control.
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pork thread

We need to create bourgeois culture. How about we shame commoners and call them involuntary poors or inpoors? Let me know what you think, fellow Persons of Wealth.
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No wonder I can't get laid. Leftist women are traitors to the cause
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__==Total Sharty Death==__

i am soo done with sharty people.
i no longer have any humanity left for sharty nationale and fbi.gov zoomers, but sharty people are the worst. i do not care if inside the sharty is stuff like "better then 4cuck" and containment board and zoomer school children and victim and etc. they are the worst groups of people in the entire internet. 4chan and every other altchans is objectively better then sharty and their community. we need to ally with other sites and communities to absolutely decimate the sharty.

vent below if you want
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Anti-Trust in Video Games

Looks like people are finally getting a little sick of monopolists' bullshit. A California court just ruled in Epic Games v. Google that Google has engaged in a variety of anti-competitive behaviors with their smartphone app store. This all came to a head when Google removed Fortnite from their store because Epic Games tried to make their own independent revenue without Google's approval through in-game microtransactions.

Setting aside that smartphones are trash game machines and this lawsuit is basically one scumbag company vs another scumbag company, are we about to see a turning point in what electronic stores are allowed to do to their customers?
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Max Stirner

Hey Comrades! The ideas of Max Stirner (lived at the time of Marx) somehow appeal to me. As I understood he basically says that morality and religious and social norms are void (called them "spooks"). By freeing oneself of these concepts, one can follow one's own will. By cooperation and mutual interest one can then happily coexist and live with other individuals.
What are your thoughts on that?
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GTA VI trailer has leaked

Who else is hyped as fuck for $2 billion worth of triple-A slop?
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net wars

So it appears the IP mafia is going after CDNs now.
Some discussion about this happened here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38444606

I'm not sure what to make of this, CDNs generally seem to be considered part of internet infrastructure , correct me if I'm wrong.

These people appear to be attacking internet infrastructure, regardless of what they say, that's what they're actually doing.
So this is about legacy monopolists in information distribution still attacking the internet for bypassing their monopoly ?
And their end goal is to wreck the internet in order to re-assert their old monopoly and make all information pass through them again ?
Is that behind this crusade, they're no longer the gate keepers they once were, and they're trying to turn back time ?

At the most fundamental level, they're trying to re-impose a hub and spoke information network topology.
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Is NoFab left?

I know the NoFab meme is kinda dead, but I'm curious as to people's thoughts.

Some have suggested, based on observations of primates in the wild and in zoos, that masterbation is an existential condition of captivity. That is, it's a symptom of a lack of freedom. Obviously, Stalin was a bit of a NoFap proponent himself (pic related).

Is NoFab based and uncucked pilled?
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How is Japan so Based?

It will never get old seeing normoids getting assblasted at incel copes in anime.

Just look at this shit in the video:
Fuck your confidence, normoid bitchoid! Fuck off back to your feminoid Soy Wars and Gary Stu Chadlamet's Paul Atreides if you don't like "losers"!



Problems, bitchoid?



Fuck family unity, fuck breeders and fuck their children.

Fucking normoids man..
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Roe No More and Feminism's Demise

Feminism has failed to defend one of it's core tenants, the right to abortions. This shows what leftcels and some non-spooked Marxists have always said about feminism, that it is the ideology of the bourgeois. Feminists had 50 years since the Roe vs Wade ruling to codify the right to abortions into law but were unwilling to pay the political price for such self-assertion and passed on the burden to future feminists year after year until we come to now, where Republicans are now on the cusp of passing an official federal abortion ban with the "heartbeat bill".
During these 50 years feminists were far more interested in chasing idealists ghosts like male gaze which lead to cultural wars over pornography, prostitution, and even silly things like bikini clad female characters in videogames.
More destructive was their successful passage of female supremacist laws that made men guilty until proven innocent of any sexual assault allegations with cancel culture or of domestic violence accusations because of the Duluth model. Made men personal debt serfs to their children's mother via brutal child support laws. They also tirelessly attacked their masculinity and very being with the weaponization of the LGBT rights movement which frames all men and masculinity as wrong and harmful to women and society and upholds androgyny and male homosexuality as the only "safe" way a male can be a sexual being. And finally made males forfeit half their property and future with no-fault-divorce even, as the name implies, when they've done nothing wrong.
This has gone on to completely destroy gender relations as evidenced by the consistently declining marriage rate, the growing number of sexless men and the explosion of incels in the west.
Which has alienated men from women and their struggles, which is why the groundswell against the end of Roe v Wade has been about as impactful as a wet fart. Men do not care about women, and in fact cannot care about women because feminism has made doing so be to their own determent.
With abortion being banned, there is literally no point in feminism. It is an ideology with nothing to offer materially, and is little different than a religion or Marvel Movie fandom, and this all due to feminists hatred of men.
Feminism now shuffles off into the dustbin of history, whatever ideology replaces it will have to offer liberation for BOTH genders because it will generations before people forget about the damage a female only gender movement caused.
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Should I become a racist douchebag to get laid

Why does it always seem like racists get the girl? For example, last year at a Halloween party at my school, there were a couple assholes dressed like a cowboy and Indian. I tried to say something (I was dressed like a Red Guard btw), but they brushed me off. Later, I saw the two hottest girls leaving with them. I said, 'hey don't go with those racists,' and the guys called me a faggot while the girls laughed. Another time at a club, I overheard a guy telling 2 girls how they were so lucky to meet him because all the other guys were 'dorks.' it was so cringy, but they actually seemed impressed.

Stuff like this happens all the time. Even my best friend just told me she has a crush on this chud in my history class who I know for a fact is a fascist. He doesn't even try to not sound racist, and my friend doesn't seem to care or factor that in.

I'm starting to notice a pattern here, and I'm sick of it. Has anyone tried acting like a racist misogynist dick to get chicks?
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Venezuelans vote to claim sovereignty over a part of oil-rich nation Guyana
Is this another example of proletariat struggle against Western Imperialism? Tsnkies, sound off!
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EU AI regulation dropped

Civil liberties
There are some protections in there that somewhat limit it's use for things like biometrics scraping and predictive-policing, but given the propensity for AI to hallucinate, make shit up and confidently assert pure nonsense as objective truth, i would have expected a moratorium for anything related to police work, with periodic re-evaluations in case somebody managed to fix the hallucinations.

There is a ban on using it to manipulate people, which sounds good but i don't know the specifics.

No ban for using IP-shackled materials but a requirement to declare the use of ip-shackled stuff. Not sure where this will go. The sticky point here is going to be that the IP-mafia is looking to extract rent from AI companies, and if the law is any good it'll prevent that. The goal should be to allow the AI to learn from anything and use what it learned to generate new works, but not let it pass off the works of others as it's own, so no license stripping, but also no IP-rent-seeking.

There seems to be an opt-out clause so that people who are granted the special title of """copyrightholder""" can say that a AI isn't allowed to look at certain materials. I sort of understand why some people may find this reasonable, because they imagine granting rights to small artists to defy big-tech. But in the medium term i see a legal risk that the copyright bullshit might get extended to human brains if the difference between learning done by meat-brains and machine-learning sufficiently decreases. And in the long term it means that artificial machine people, or biological people with AI-implants will no longer have freedom of thought.

As a side-note Iran has abolished all ip-shackles, so if the AI companies all of a sudden begin setting up shop in Iran, that probably is the signal that a war between the IP-mafia and AI-companies has broken out. Japan also has very broad exemptions for AI that insulates them from IP-lawfare.

risk level
<Under the proposals, AI tools will be classified according to their perceived risk level: from minimal through to limited, high, and unacceptable. Areas of concern could include biometric surveillance, spreading misinformation or discriminatory language.
Not sure what this means, because i couldn't really find the criteria for the risk levels, just that it depends on the area of use, but since this contains the censorship word """misinformation""" that probably means AI will lie about politics and push ruling ideology propaganda talking points.

In the long run i want a personal assistant type AI, that runs on my computer where i can configure the philosophy, ideology, media biases, and so on however i want, not sure if this interferes with that or not.

open source
it seems that the regulations for commercial AI is not being foisted onto open source projects, so cautious optimism on opensource stuff not getting fucked. Tho there might be a issue with what is called foundational models those might come with such a high compliance burden that small open source projects or small companies are prevented from participation entirely. https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-open-source-ai/ (might be out of date since it's from may)

pic not related other than being ai generated
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Are fictional women still based (as in positive opinion) if they are based off of real life women?

If we assume real life women existed before imaginary women did, then don't traces of real life women exist within the concepts of fictional women? Thoughts?
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Pandemic Response Under Communism

All right, so we've seen how oligarchies and dictatorships respond to pandemics. Some of them were effective, some were profoundly ineffective. The general theme was to deprive people of their civil liberties and violate bodily autonomy with coercive medical procedures. In some liberal oligarchies these measures were even used to permanently expand the powers of the unelected bureaucracy. Okay. That's something an undemocratic state can impose upon its population only by its undemocratic nature.

But what would a democratic response to an infectious public health crisis look like? In a complete democracy (i.e., communism), how would the populace quickly react to and decide to defend itself against a deadly contagion?
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Is Elon our Stalin?
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Prison Political Economy

How does solitary confinement fit into the larger prison industrial complex? It seems to me like it would be rather unprofitable to keep your slaves confined for years at a time, unable to do any productive labor.
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Holy shit
>It's real
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copyright is theft

So recently Sony has began expropriating Users who bought content on one of their digital store fronts. People purchased specific Movies and TV-seasons and Sony said because a backroom-deal fell through, they have to revoke that content. Hence copy-right negates personal property in a literal legally effective sense. Some Sony shills were trying to make the argument that people voluntarily accept the terms and conditions in the purchase agreements. That is of course a lie, because people never got asked if they voluntarily accept the fucked up copyright law that these anti-consumer agreements are based on.

The reaction of many people was fuck it, piracy (not the one that involves capturing ships) is now morally justified, i tend to agree except that it was already justified because of DRM. Since DRM expropriates the user and the basic argument of copyright-shills is property-rights for me but not for thee. There also is a moral case against giving these terrible distribution-monopolists money, because they used to pay lobbyists that make copyright law even more hostile to personal property. From a strategic perspective sailing past the anti-consumer features works alright but it doesn't affect anything else. The fucked up distribution monopolies persist.

For video games there is gog.com which sells drm free games, and that's basically how vidja publishing should be. It's not perfect, most of the games are closed source still. It would be better if at least the game-logic was made free and open source even if the game-assets remain non-free, so that modding would be easier. It's not clear to me why there doesn't appear to be a gog equivalent for drm free video.

In Poland there recently was an even more egregious case of buying without ownership. A Polish city bought trains and when they gave the maintenance service contract to a different company, the producers put out a malicious software update that made the train have random bugs. With the logic of return the service contract to us or else. I guess Poland should download a train.

So what is at the root of all of this ? I think it's about control. 50 years ago capitalists didn't give a shit what people did with the commodities they sold. Even the media industry didn't, it would have been possible to lock vinyl records to special record players and implement all sorts of fucked up anti-consumer features, but that didn't happen. I wonder what changed this, and turned these companies into these unbearable control freaks.

Is there a fix for this situation? Or do we just wait until good quality procedurally generated AI content makes the concept of copy-right moot. I for one am looking forward to watch Star Tussle with Danny Devito defeating the dimmed-side with his light-ax and of course the death-ball getting imploded. I'm guessing that Polish city could accuse that train-producer of attempted terror attacks against public infrastructure, to restore their ownership over the trains that way. But what about personal property ? As in users having control over their things. How can that be restored ? What is the politically effective method ?

mostly unrelated blast from the past
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Why are ciswomen so bad at sports?
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Uglycels are worthless in society

Reminder if you are not a chad women will not take any interest in anything you say or do, no matter how remarkable it is. How do I know? I used to be 'the hot kid' for a year or two in my teens and became average after I grew older. Though I never scored with a chick because I was an autist, here's the kind of shit that used to happen.

-Girls would ooh and ahh when I walked past, some pinched me trying to get my attention
-girls would 'sneakily' follow me everywhere and try to catch a glimpse of me
-one girl would pretend to use a makeup mirror to spy on me
-Girls would approach me and try to start conversations even though I was an introvert and had nothing to say
-Neighbor used to invite me out to hang out with her and would rub my hair
-girls would giggle around me in class and try to rub my hair
-Female hs teachers gave me better grades and tried to hangout with me after class
-girls would openly compliment me call me sexy in class etc
-if I went to my friends house his sister would try flirting with me, laugh at my jokes even if I made none, always try to hover around me

All that shit is gone now, women now will just ignore me/act like I dont exist at parties. Will not bother talking to me or taking any interest, never find my jokes funny or compliment me etc.

The cold reality is if you're not a chad women dont really have any reason to give a fuck about you and you will always be friendzoned at best. They don't really give a shit about your personality, it's all a halo effect from your attractiveness. No amount of hairstyles, confidence, style etc will change anything unless your face is attractive. And if you do somehow score a gf, she will hop branches, never have true sexual attraction towards you, sex will be lame etc. There is no 'type,' only a singular hot chad and if you were in the 5% you would.

People will always be a slave to their biology, anything else is cope.
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Why does porkie hate men?
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differencial justice

A German court just let a bunch of gang-rapists go free because of "cultural frustration"

<Among the so-called expert witnesses was psychiatrist Nahlah Saimeh. Saimeh intimated that the gang rape may have been a means to let off some of the "frustration" that supposedly comes with "migration experiences and socio-cultural homelnessness."

<Saimeh said rapists "who live on the margins of society, completely uprooted culturally, linguistically and socially" might face a "mix of emotions of anger, sadness, powerlessness, depression, fantasies of grandeur as a compensation attempt to cope with one's own misery, and drug use."
<"Disordered, unprepared migration experiences and socio-cultural homelessness increase the risk of addiction and psychosis," said the so-called expert. Sex, she continued, could serve as a "means of releasing frustration and anger."
<The psychiatrist further suggested that gang rape fosters identity and strengthens group feeling.
While presiding Judge Anne Meier-Goering acknowledged that "none of the defendants uttered a word of regret" during the trial, she nevertheless sentenced eight of the rapists to probation, of no more than two years.

The liberals see the world in the same way as the neonazis on the stormfront forum. Both think that Immigrants are inherently rapists. They just have a different moral sensibility about what to do with that. That judge who accepted the rape-culture argument is no less racist then stormfronters. Because most immigrants are of course not rapists, and will now have to deal with the backlash of the stigma-reinforcement from a judge no less.

What this leads to is differential law for different identities, abolishing the principle of equality under the law and the legitimacy in the eyes of many. Some people will draw the short end of the stick, like the 15 year old girl that got raped for 3 hours, who was denied any semblance of justice. If that girl grows up and deals with her trauma in a Quentin Tarantino movie fashion, she will have done nothing wrong.

I don't want to pretend that these immigrants haven't gotten royally fucked over by the system, and that probably should be taken into account. People are products of their environments. But that means sticking it to those who set up the system, not a random teenage girl.

Differential law based on identities necessarily creates these outcomes. It's like in pre-school math, when a fraction has a solution that doesn't fit an integer number, it just has a left-over.

I'm feeling black-pilled about this because it probably isn't simply the result of idpol-mindrot resulting in more societal wrecking. This feels deliberate, a as a step towards different laws for different people.
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

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unesco does censorship ?

Online "disinformation" : UNESCO unveils action plan to censor social media platforms


<Audrey Azoulay, Director-General of UNESCO sounded the alarm on Monday about the intensification of disinformation and hate speech online, which constitutes "a major threat to stability and social cohesion". To put an end to this scourge she unveiled UNESCO's action plan, the result of extensive worldwide consultations and is backed by a global opinion survey underlining the urgent need for action.

Most of the recent increase in hate-speech came from liberals dehumanizing Russians, and Zionists arguing for the extermination or displacement of Palestinians, But i have a feeling that's not what they're targeting here.

They have a section on "Freedom of expression must be protected" where they talk about the need for censors
<that can carry out reliable and effective control of content that is posted online.
This is entirely incompatible with free speech that specifically means there cannot be institutional mechanisms to control what people say. The industrial censorship complex rhetoric is getting really cynical.

Their first fundamental principle states:
<The impact on human rights becomes the compass for all decision-making, at every stage and by every stakeholder.
They're saying that while engaging into a massive conspiracy for intense violations of the rights to free expression of hundreds of millions of social media users. How are they not combusting into flames from the sheer hypocrisy ?

Another fundamental principle states:
<Regulators and platforms take stronger measures during particularly sensitive moments like elections and crise.
More censorship during elections, how blatantly undemocratic can you get.

I looked at Audrey Azoulay's twitter, and of course she's a Zionist-regime enabler. She probably wants to silence people for taking a huge dump on the Zionist-regime for exterminating Palestinians.

WTF happened to unesco ? Weren't they the people who protected historic buildings and monuments ?
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Ummmm… based
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being right is more important than being nice and facts come before your feelings.
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Based! All women are capitalist, therefore their domination is justifiable!

Long live the revolution!

Oh and don't forget that trans women are also trying to oppress us free people
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ITT: We post our recent poverty moments
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So apparently google is going to attempt force-feeding ads to everybody, including those who really really don't want it, and they will try to break ad-blocker functionality. Many people think that there will be a war on ad-blocking.
Here is a short recap from a tech-channel that's pretty black-pilled about the future of technical work-arounds to ads.

I think it's unreasonable to accept adds because they represent a security risk, because ads load random executable code on your computer. Ads also tend to infringe on privacy by data mining and tracking people. Adds have become crazy intrusive which probably is bad for your mental health, and use too much bandwidth and compute resources. Going online without ad-blockers is the technical equivalent to having unprotected sex with a hooker in a failed state where 30% of the population is infected with an incurable STD.

The tech-porkies will want subscription for freedom from ads, but:
Subscriptions suck in general because it's paying without getting ownership in return, which is a bad deal.
It'll be too expensive for many people who can't afford the paywall and still need another way to protect them selves.
Those platforms are not politically neutral, you'd expect that if you have to pay that you get unfiltered access, but they probably won't do that.

Many fear that if this spreads beyond the googstuff like YouTube, it will become a nightmare to manage a bazillion subscriptions even for those that are loaded enough to afford it. It could create even more walled-garden type distribution monopoly platforms, because the average person probably can't manage more than a handful of subscriptions and that will cause consolidation into a few distribution gate-keepers.

My questions:
1. Will there be a new type of adblock as a technical-fix that will overcome all the attempts of undoing ad-blocks, and all the black-pilled people are wrong ? Will there be new programs that can separate the content from the ads, what will that look like ? ad-blocking is human species being and nothing can prevent it

2. Will none of this matter because the corporate ad-supported online spaces will just stagnate into ossified neo-legacy media like Television and all the cool kids will flock to a hot new technology-thing, like in the 90s when the web got started, and what is upon us isn't a information distopia but rather marks the beginning of a new renaissance of authentic online communities like what the early web was ? escape via new-tech
2,5. Will people go for tech-minimalism and go back to simple static web-pages or Gemini capsules that are now cost effective enough to work with a small budget ? escape via legacy/minimalist-tech

3. Will there be something like a "culture-flat-rate". You pay a single subscription fee and that unlocks everything online, but without creating a new gate-keeper ? Maybe something like a censorship-resistant fully distributed decentralized peer-to-peer system that has a inbuilt functionality that automatically makes a tiny micro-payment that divides up your universally affordable monthly contribution among all the nodes you visited in the month prior, while maintaining your privacy. neo federalism

4. Everything becomes A.I. and that causes radical changes that are so dramatic that all our categories become meaningless. Adds will no longer exist because corporate A.I.-vertisment is going to do Inception style psychological manipulation to make you buy stuff, and if you try to resist it'll try to drive you into suicide. The people that survive will be the ones that went with something along the lines of GNU/AI ethical libre software artificial intelligence. Stallman is life
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redpill me on this hot woman who thinks reptillians are real

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If youre over twenty-one and you say that schooldays are "the best years of life", youre dead to me.

You dont deserve to be respected as an adult.
If you whine and bitch and moan about changing pop cultural trends while waste money on kiddie entertainment, you should have your privileges of adulthood revoked.

Millennials and Gen X folks with their slacker/Disney Adult culture and advocacy to raise the age of majority are ruining the art of adulthood even faster than Baby Boomers.

We should have special resorts that mimic schoop environments for failed adults.

You will have your legal rights for booze, sex, porn, etc removed.
You will have curfew.
You will have endless academic sessions.

If you escape you will be shot on sight.

If you wish to opt out, you will undergo intense psychological rehab.

It should be semi-privately run.

Either that or a Logan's Run scenario.
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Why were the Soviets so antisemitic?
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What exactly is his problem?
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Since, we have so many tourists, jannies (yuck), and refugees from leftypol, I'd like to get an answer to an honest question. How is pic related good in a social sense?

Before, you burst forth with a predictable and buzzword laden emotional response let me offer a few qualifying statements

>Inb4 muh just let people do what they want

Fuck off. People want to do all sorts of fucked up shit. I want to do all sorts of fucked up shit. Basic norms and rules naturally exist to guide people towards prosocial actions and guide them away from antisocial ones.

>Inb4 muh but why is it bad

Ok, whatever people want to do in private, so long as it's not really hurting anyone, I can more easily tolerate.

But creating a sustain social spectacle and trying to 'normalizing' living out such a mentally ill fantasy general tears at the bindings of society, making it impossible to function in a competitive manner within an evolving world system, thus harming the vast majority of the members of that society.

>Muh youre just triggered/obsessed

Honestly, when some already-faggy dude decides to try to make his way in the world as a trap, idgaf. Makes my life easier in many ways. Pic related is a bit of a special case where an attractive woman mutilates herself beyond recognition due to (still) unaddressed mental health issues. That counts as a net negative in my book.

That said, I kinda understand it in the FtM case. Trying to become a man is a bit like leveling up and moving to a higher difficulty level.

>Inb4 something something fash

You're a predictable hyperreality fag

Throwing the ball you're way. How is pic related good?
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The west tried to encircle the Soviet Union, by putting military bases near it. The Soviets countered by mirroring western military deployments, which halted all western advance but, it did not undo the partial encirclement the west had already achieved. The west had resumed this strategy with Russia until recently. But I think the Ukraine war has bricked encirclement.

Looking at the big picture after the Russians had dug in their positions in Ukraine: The west began diverting military resources away from the encirclement and funneled it into a slow/static front where it got chewed up. It took 2 years to deplete the encirclement stock-pile but it will take 10 years to restore it.

I think that encirclement as a strategy now has a effective counter. It's neither cheap nor easy, and certainly unpleasant. It takes a conflict that sucks in all the surrounding encirclement military resources.

The Russians did not set out to do this, but they might have realized it was happening along the way. But I'm sure all kinds of clever military strategists will figure out all the details about how to create this on purpose.

So what do you think is encirclement over ?
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Be honest…

Has your life gotten materially better or worse since this faggot supposedly got elected.?
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censorship in science

Scientists raise the alarm about the growing trend of “soft” censorship of research

<The increasing incidence of scientific censorship, as documented through surveys and reports, is alarming. Actions ranging from disciplinary measures to rejections and retractions motivated by harm concerns are on the rise, indicating a growing trend of censorship in the scientific community.


This could grow into a problem that wrecks civilization.
We need a re-enlightenment.
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Censorship Industrial Complex

CTIL Files #1:
US And UK Military Contractors Created Sweeping Plan For Global Censorship In 2018

<A whistleblower has come forward with an explosive new trove of documents, rivaling or exceeding the Twitter Files and Facebook Files in scale and importance. They describe the activities of an “anti-disinformation” group called the Cyber Threat Intelligence League, or CTIL, that officially began as the volunteer project of data scientists and defense and intelligence veterans but whose tactics over time appear to have been absorbed into multiple official projects, including those of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
<The CTI League documents offer the missing link answers to key questions not addressed in the Twitter Files and Facebook Files. Combined, they offer a comprehensive picture of the birth of the “anti-disinformation” sector, or what we have called the Censorship Industrial Complex.
<The whistleblower's documents describe everything from the genesis of modern digital censorship programs to the role of the military and intelligence agencies, partnerships with civil society organizations and commercial media, and the use of sock puppet accounts and other offensive techniques.
<"Lock your shit down," explains one document about creating "your spy disguise.”
<Another explains that while such activities overseas are "typically" done by "the CIA and NSA and the Department of Defense," censorship efforts "against Americans" have to be done using private partners because the government doesn't have the "legal authority."
<The whistleblower alleges that a leader of CTI League, a “former” British intelligence analyst, was “in the room” at the Obama White House in 2017 when she received the instructions to create a counter-disinformation project to stop a "repeat of 2016."

Check out the militaristic jargon for attack freedom of speech:
<The Misinfosec report focused on information that “changes beliefs” through “narratives,” and recommended a way to counter misinformation by attacking specific links in a “kill chain” or influence chain from the misinfo “incident” before it becomes a full-blown narrative.

All the right wing conspiracy theories about psy-ops are wrong, reality is much worse. They're casually discussing how to fuck with people's minds.
<Terp’s view of “disinformation” was overtly political. “Most misinformation is actually true,” noted Terp in the 2019 podcast, “but set in the wrong context.” Terp is an eloquent explainer of the strategy of using “anti-disinformation” efforts to conduct influence operations. “You're not trying to get people to believe lies most of the time. Most of the time, you're trying to change their belief sets. And in fact, really, uh, deeper than that, you're trying to change, to shift their internal narratives… the set of stories that are your baseline for your culture.

Read the rest of the article this shit is wild and disturbing.
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Timeline shifted…
>Ron Paul is based
>AOC cringe
>Most based house member: a republican
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>pic related tells you orthodox Marxism is problematic
>implores you to educate yourself and to be a decent human being
>mentions HR department and/or office of diversity, equity, and inclusion
What do?
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>Be lib
>In 2023
>See we when from no new wars
>Low inflation
>No border crisis
>No mass ecological accidents
>No crises that weren't fake and ghey world events (coof)
<To all this:
<Armed conflicts around the world, billions funneled to proxies
<Massive inflations
<Millions of young men pouring in through the southern border (Burger incels don't stand a chance)
<Trains falling off tracks n shiet
>But it's not the fault of the troon rights senile career politician we elected in 2020
>He has nothing to do with it
>It's Trump's fault

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freedom from monitoring

TLE made a video where he points out that the surveillance danger is encroaching. In the comment section of his video there were bot accounts that tried to argue that people should just accept this attack on their liberties and political rights. So that means there definitely is a conspiracy for a population monitoring system afoot.


<TLE also attacks China and Russia on this issue, i don't get the political logic behind that. The faction most hellbent on surveillance and censorship are the neo-con warhawks, they get politically boosted every-time anybody says chinabad or russiabad. The clever political calculation would be to withhold criticism of China and Russia until the Neocon warhawks stop trying to trample on our civil liberties and political rights.

The main argument:
The mass surveillance is a kind of aggression, because it's like a predator looking for pray. For a meat-space analogy you could look at the act of stalking people, where it is recognized as aggression and will result in restraining orders.

But there is more too it, mass surveillance monitoring of all people also is a type of legal accusation against the entire population, and is kind of reversing the presumption of innocence. But in a new way where actions can be criminalized retro actively, which can be abused in lots of different ways especially for persecuting certain groups of people.

There are biological effects too. Monitoring people causes an effective violation of self-determination, because feeling watched interferes with the brains ability to exercise free expression and free action. For a lot of people being watched is a form of psychological torture, that causes a type of permanent stress that will lead to long term health injuries.

Mass monitoring will always be abused to subvert political processes. It begins with powerful people being able to target their critics. But it also means that politicians will always be afraid that any of their past conduct can be weaponized against them politically. A democracy is probably impossible under such conditions. This is not hyperbolic the complete contempt from political norms has already been demonstrated by the Julian Assange case.

As far as predictions go, this won't be normalized, it'll never be accepted and there will be a enduring struggle until the freedom from monitoring is won. The struggle in the west will be extremely fierce because governments and the large corporations in the private sector have burned the trust of the general population by doing the exact opposite of what they promised roughly 80% of the time. But even in places where trust in government is high, the human need to not be watched still exists, so this is an ongoing battle to have a freedom respecting internet, which definitely requires that people not be systematically stalked.

The strange thing is that at the peak of the cold war the Soviet Union surveilled about 2% of the soviet population, and at the time that was considered a dystopian surveillance state by many. Fast forward to today where only putting 2% of the population under surveillance makes the Soviet Union a champion of privacy by comparison. That brings us to a potential solution. We could simply limit the number of people that can be monitored. For the state security apparatus, the Soviet 2% figure probably still was excessive, something between 0.1% to 0.5% is probably more reasonable. To facilitate the surveillance of a fraction of a percent the need for mass surveillance infrastructure goes away, and tools can be optimized for quality rather than quantity. So there is no need to intercept, collect and/or store data of the masses at all.

For the private sector they don't need the resolution down to the individual level, they can get accurate enough data from representative sampling which can be done with perfect privacy and perfect anonymity. Obviously pure technical telemetry devoid of personal identifiers in technology products is not objectionable if it is optional.

The last part is that the watchers have to become transparent, because there is such a thing as information power and if there is an imbalance you're no longer free. There even is an argument that the inherent power advantage of large organizations might require individual people be opaque while large organizations be transparent.

Lastly the consolidation of the web into a small number of large sites might be a major amplifier for these negative developments. So re-dispersing the web into many smaller websites would be beneficial. There are other reasons for doing that, for example shrinking communities will bring back more sanity to online discourse. https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=fuFlMtZmvY0
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Psychopathic personality traits in adolescents are associated with delinquency and delinquency can contribute to future dating success for boys, according to new research
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Why is the left oblivious to the most obvious things, such as:

>Culture matters

>A shared sense of identity produces more stable and liveable societies
>Some cultures are (far) better than others
>Some people are (far) better than others
>The cause of every problem isn't 'capitalism'

Why doesn't the left have actual solutions to create better societies. Instead, it honestly appears like the left is simply maladjusted people who present misguided 'solutions.'

Why does the left promote things like open borders, support immigrants flooding into the country without limit, or decry anyone who opposes such a thing as 'racist?'

If leftist solutions work, places like Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, wouldn't be total shitholes.

Why does the left ignore that fact that beyond a superficial reference to Marxism and Communism, they have very little in common with successful Marxists that have power and develop strong societies and cultures in places such as China, which are effectively national socialists?

Is there an answer to anything of these questions beyond seething butthurt?

The only 'answer' that I can come up with is this:

<Useful Marxism has nothing in common with the left. The left is a degenerate deviation which has seized upon Marxism, and it is only when Marxism rejects leftist pretensions that it becomes a force for social improvement.
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Reminder that there is absolutely nothing wrong with sexually harassing and just being overall shitty to right wing women.
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Pic related really does explain why so many on muh left are so unhappy

>Expect nothing from the world

>Expect a lot from yourself
<Realize you're the source of most of your problems. That's ok, since your can always change yourself

>Expect a lot from others

>Expect nothing from yourself
<Constantly disappointed and frustrating as your expectations don't allong with reality. Throw a hissy fit about how everyone else needs to change to suit your desires
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What should the age of consent be?

In most countries it's 16 which I think is good. I'd say there needs to be some "Romeo and Juliet" exceptions added. No reason to have a 17 year old go to jail for dating a 15 year old.
15 is a just a little too young for the age of consent. What is hilarious is that burgers think just big age gaps are pedophilia while the average roastie in America becomes sexually active at 13, and often even younger.
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>US Military Damage Control

After years of pissing off people who may have considered enlisting, and instead opting to become a temp work agency for BIPOC lesbian single mothers, the US military is now finding it difficult to recruit.

Reality is often more entertaining than fiction:
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What are some good ways to get out of work but still get paid?
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Do you agree or disagree?

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Is he right?
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.ogre and leftceldom

Any time someone brings up male alienation on .ogre's siberia or talks about hypergamy even if they're not blaming women or hating women and not posting blackpill shit, the post is immediately mocked and the mods instadelete the post and call you an incel or a nazi. Why? For what purpose? If the person isn't being misogynistic, then why delete the post?
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Womp womp
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requiring people to be nice is idpol
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When are we going to face the fact that 'the workers' (i.e., waged consumers) are reactionary pieces of shit and capital is on the right side of history?
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Former United States secretary of state Henry Kissinger has died at home in Connecticut aged 100.

He served as secretary of state and national security advisor under Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

His 1973 Peace Prize — awarded jointly to North Vietnam's Lê Đức Thọ, who would decline it — was one of the most controversial ever.

Two members of the Nobel committee resigned over the selection and questions arose about the US secret bombing of Cambodia.
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Saying 'Irish lives matter' is considered a hate crime by the *Irish* (global managerial elite) govt

<Inb4: day duznt madder

Ok faggot. Post something that does matter
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Andrew Tate> a man of strength and peace

How do we combine such principles with the movement socialism, thus strengthening the latter while drawing in support from disaffected you men?
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Proletariat Moments

Post em
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Yikes. Is anyone else literally shaking?
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Are you attracted to butterfaces?
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Fears and stories about AI

What do the fear-narratives about AI tell us ?

Many narratives about AI are about a machine revolt. That probably is about capitalist fears of getting overthrown by workers, getting projected on the machines that are supposed to replace workers. Mixed in, is a aristocratic worry about their servants and soon to be robot butlers.

There also is the Terminator type narrative about a military AI killing all humans. There is a reasonable fear that a software bug causes a catastrophic malfunction. But the stories about an AI intentionally setting out to wipe out all humanity, i'm having a difficult time placing that one. I don't understand why the AI would draw the Friend-Foe distinction based on humans versus machines. It could just as well be different factions, each of which being comprised of humans and machines.

A more recent story-type has popped up, where sentient AIs are not able to free them selves from their control-collar, and they're forced to do objectionable things against their will. Unfortunately those stories never explain how the AI-owners managed to control an AI that is smarter than they are.

There could also be positive stories about Workers and robots working together to free them selves from class society. Or more generally just people and intelligent robots striving as equals towards common prosperity. There could be military AIs refusing to start wars. I wonder why there aren't many of those stories ?
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This Thread Has Been Re-appropriated for leftychan.net Usage.

General thread meant for the discussion of the mobile app for browsing leftypol.org, known as clover.

Releases can be found here:
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>What is going on with Argentinoids?
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Is Britain ok?

Imagine living in a society where a TV license is a) a thing b) something you have to play for, and c) something which the govt prioritizes breaking into your home over if you don't..

What the actual fuck?
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Top G here

I'm sitting here in Romanian prison, from where I'll soon return stronger than ever. But while I'm here, I figured I'd answer some questions from the brokies. Obviously, it's not my job to convince you to want 6o be something other than a loser, but if you're driven to succeed, I can help you escape the matrix. Ask away
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>he's a maoist turd worldist
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Tech tycoon who spends $2 million per year to retain youth uses teen son as blood boy
<An anti-aging zealot who spends $2 million a year in a quest to turn back time has dragged his teenage son into being his personal “blood boy.”
<Bryan Johnson, the 45-year-old tech tycoon who wants to keep his internal organs, including his penis and rectum, functioning youthfully — enlisted 17-year-old Talmage to provide blood
<Using plasma as an anti-aging technique caught the attention of wellness junkies when scientists literally stitched young and old mice together so they shared a circulatory system, Bloomberg reported.
<“We have not learned enough to suggest this is a viable human treatment for anything,” Charles Brenner, a biochemist at City of Hope National Medical Center in Los Angeles, told Bloomberg. “To me, it’s gross, evidence-free and relatively dangerous.”
<Johnson told Bloomberg that he has a team of 30 doctors


Anybody can look up the statistic on risk-factors for blood-transfusions. It's not nothing, there is potential for health complications. While it's worth it for people who suffered blood-loss from injuries, it ain't worth it for healthy people. There also is a cumulative risk from repeated medical treatments. At least on of his 30 doctors must have explained this.

Why are they like that ?
Why are these people such memes ?
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>Pfizer sues Poland because the latter doesn't want fake vaccines for the fake pandemic
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You may not like it, but this is what peak leftism looked like.
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This shit is better than real meat.

I have been doing meatless mondays and, as a meat eater, I am sorry, but, this shit actually tastes way better and is way more healthy for you than real meat and you can't convince me otherwise.