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Foss AI

Recently there has been a lot of commotion around large language model text based AI.
They are able to do impressive stuff, they give useful answers, and even can write somewhat usable programming sample code.

The most famous one currently is chatgpt, but all of those AIs are basically black boxes, that probably have some malicious features under the hood.

While there are Open-Source Implementations of ChatGPT style Training Algorithms
Those kinda require that you have a sizeable gpu cluster like 500 $1k cards that are specialized kit, not your standard gaming stuff. To chew through large language-models with 100 billion to 500 billion parameters.

The biggest computational effort is the initial training run, that chews through a huge training data-set. After that is done, just running the thing to respond to your queries is easier.

So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?
I guess the most useful feature is the computer-code generator, because you might be able to use that to make better Foss Ai software in the future, and help you with creating libre open source programs.

Is there another avenue for a Foss AI ?
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Reminder that doctors are class enemies. They are the reason healthcare is so expensive in the US.

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Based congressman Matt Gaetz blasts ghoulish DOD bureaucrat over training African coup leaders. At this point, I think it's clear which party is the lesser of two evils, and it's not the party of finger snapping bosswomen and their simps.
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Linux package managers

What's your take on linux software distribution ?

There's a lot of buzz around flat-pack and flat-hub atm, they are currently implementing a monetization feature. And for some reason Eric Schmidt the google-guy is involved somehow.
flathub isn't calld flub
I'm worried that once money is involved it will attract scammers and litigation for a payout type people. Also the payment processor they want to use is stripe, that's probably not anonymous

Ubuntu has removed flat-pack from it's official releases, to push it's snap package manager instead, i wonder if they have other reasons than "we're going to make our own pack-manager with blackjack and hookers" to yeet flat-pack from their system.

I think the best package manager in the end might be NIX

Is going from distro repositories to this type of stuff going to improve software distribution on linux ?
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Hey Leftychads
Whatcha readin?
Pic related is the import shipment I just received. Probably going to read the Greene book first since I'm in a springtime lull before I start summer projects. What about u.
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Ukraine 3.0

Last one is full and the worst thread on leftychan must be contained.

In recent news: Ukies done a successful counteroffensive in Izium, Z gang now in shambles. Biden promises even more money for Ukraine. Putin meets Xi, Erdogan, Modi and others at the SCO summit.

Pro-Russia sources:

Pro-Ukraine sources:
Everywhere else
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/westoid cringe general/

In this thread, we laugh at (((westerners))) and their failed societies
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robo managers

<A video game company that appointed an artificial intelligence bot as its chief executive has announced a market-beating stock increase.
<China-based NetDragon Websoft named the AI program Tang Yu as its CEO in August, tasked with supporting decision making for the company’s daily operations.


This specific case might be mostly a PR stunt, but it could be that the managerial strata in the corporate bureaucracy gets replaced by robots before the proles do.

What does that mean for Socialism ?
Will this make it easier to convert the economy to something like cybernetic socialism ?
Since it's all in the computer anyway, it just needs to be reconfigured a bit ?
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Bets for WW3?
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San Francisco board open to reparations with $5M payouts
Cope and seethe CHUDs anti idpolers kek
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What are some classic cute yuri animu to watch??
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Found this cringe on reddit. Is this shit trying to claim that trotsky was a tsarist?
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frog retirment struggle

The strikes are massive and the political opposition to macron's pension-rape has doubled from 26% to 46% in just a few months.

Macron has undemocratically bypassed the french parliament by using article 49.3 of the french constitution, to box this through. However it's now possible to oust him with a no-confidence motion.

There's a very strong possibility that this is Macrons political suicide, and it's very unlikely that this pension-rape will stand. The French imperial bourgeoisie has recently lost a lot of power in their African pseudo-colonies. The president of the Congo Felix Tshisedkedi recently flat out told Macron to shut-up his "imperial paternalism" during a political conference. And that means they can't fight against the french proles at home and fight to maintain imperial dominance in Africa at the same time.

I don't know enough about the political realities in France to make predictions about the ramifications, but seems that the imperial bourgeoisie in France is going to get a serious haircut.

Video source for the op-pic
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What do you think of the ending to Watchmen?
Do you agree with Ozymandias?
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How do I stop myself wanting a gf so badly that it hurts?
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Chinese Century Thread /CCT/

This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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>public health misinformation thread
Coof, jibby jab, and health news mega
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Money as the universal commodity ?

During marx's time money based on precious metals like gold or silver were the universal commodity, against which all other commodities were measured.

After money was detached from metal, the only real universal commodity money was the dollar because that was the only one against which all other commodities were measured. And you could say many of the big currencies that were easily converted into dollars had some of that universality rub off on them. By the way i count precious metal derived money as fiat money as well.

After the US began expanding sanctions at some point they crossed the line where the dollar can't be considered as the universal commodity against which all other commodities are measured anymore.

Precious metals are still universal in the sense that every economy will exchange for it, but you can't really use it to buy stuff. Shops don't have scales for measuring the weight of metal anymore, and won't accept pieces of metal as payments. That means that it's not really money.

There are a select few crypto moneys that appear to have the ambition to become a universal commodity, but they are very far away from realizing that.

So where does that leave universal commodity money ?
Does that still exist ?
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Etymological propaganda and its influence on the Left

Democracy: Governance by lot with citizen participation in major decision-making
"Representative democracy": an Orwellian word inversion used basically to describe the Roman oligarchic system of governance with fake appeals to populism peddled by Jefferson, Madison, and especially Andrew Jackson

Were leftists of the late 19th and early 20th century aware that this word inversion had taken place? Did any of them have an inkling that elections were a naturally oligarchic institution? I am curious about the effect this historical revision of the democratic mode of governance had on socialist strategies, tactics, and institutions. I know Marx had an education in the Greek classics, so at least he was aware… Right?
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FIRE General Thread

Let's get a general thread about FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate). Include topics about crypto as well.
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48 Laws of Power Summary Thread

A while back, I wrote a summary of every chapter from Robert Greene's '48 Laws of Power.'

If you haven't read it, I'd highly recommend. These summaries don't do the book justice, since I've stripped away the historical anecdotes and quotes which really make the work come to life. However, I think there are still some interesting tidbits and lessons in these summaries, so I thought I'd share.
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Tell me, anon: what are the best minigames in RPGs?
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>revolutionary defeatism with incel characteristics
It's happening bros
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Only post bops.
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Are the neocons incompent ?

I'm asking my self whether or not the neocons are nothing but blood-dripping salesmen for the arms-industry, and all their ideological stuff is foolishness.

I'm not looking for cheap shots, like proving they never achieve their stated goals like "winning the war on terror". Just assume it's part of their strategy to lie about their true goals.

I used to think that they were both effective at generating profits for the arms industry and also furthering US imperial power. But I don't think that anymore.

For example the wars in the middle east caused something like a war-chaos-belt that separated Europe from Asia and prevented the formation of "Ꭼurꭺsian" (loaded term) economic integration that could potentially become an economic block that would be many times more powerful than the US. So in that sense you could look at the failed wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on as somewhat effective at maintaining US hegemonic power.

But it turns out that it wasn't the case. The conclusion that most analysts are drawing now is that the US wasted a bunch of time and effort fucking up the Arabs. And was nothing but a distraction that allowed China to grow into an economic powerhouse that is now more or less untouchable for the foreseeable future.

The Ukraine crisis again follows a similar structure, it seemed like a viable way to separate Russian-German economic cooperation by creating a trade-disrupting war-zone and political-capital for economic separation, so that economic integration may not lead to a Russo-European economic block that would have been more powerful than the US.

But it turns out that this wasn't the case either. The result of the Ukraine crisis is:

Sino-Russian economic integration. Which might lead to the formation of a much more powerful economic block than the Russo-European one. But the consequences don't stop at undoing the Sino-Soviet split. It also has killed the economic power of Europe which means that a potential Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ (loaded term) economic block is much weaker now.

But wait their is more, It has caused a substantial loss in diplomatic power that is undoing the western sway over Africa and India. The US has also lost it's power to direct Saudi-oil-production, and the US-dollar as reserve currency is loosing more ground in international trade, which will have direct implications of limiting US military spending in the not so distant future.

In case the NAFO-gang wants to dispute that the Ukraine-crisis was manufactured by the neocons, then it changes nothing about my argument that what ever the neocons did do, was ineffective at furthering the goals of US hegemony. So please don't turn this thread into a who-done-it Ukraine-debate.

Further consequences are that the divisions in Nato are growing and a Nato dissolution might be the outcome of that. The Trꭺnsatlꭿntiꮸ alliance now comes with an extremely steep economic penalty for Europe, which makes it's future rather questionable as well. I've never seen civilizations not organize them selves around the most economical source of energy. That is an extremely steep hill to climb.
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Should prostition be illegal?

I don't even think it should be illegal for any moral reason, or, because I think it is degenerate. I think it is bullshit women get to get by only on their looks and their pussies. They should get a job like the rest of us.
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Ant colonies - worker dictatoships?

Serious question. I've read recently that the dynamics of the ant population, ie how many different types of ants should be produced, is actually determined by worker ants in a colony.
This implies that the queen is actually a mean of reproduction controlled by the worker ants, through feeding patterns, pheromones or whatever other mechanisms. Is there a detailed research on this?
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Socialism with bullshitter characteristics

I've just finished watching the Caleb & Haz discourse here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5uUuB6Slqk about "muh third worldists and US socialist patriotism" (which was basically a covert response to the recent Caleb vs. Unruhe drama on Twitter), and came to a revelation.

Caleb emphasizes (generally, but in this exchange as well) how just like China had its "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" so will the USA in the foreseeable future have its "Socialism with Amurrican Characteristics [SWAC]." So it made me wonder… what would SWAC look like? And then I had a revelation. It would be how like their current advocates are, meaning Caleb and Haz: bullshitters making shit work by bullshitting.

If you aren't familiar with this take I'll give you a crash course:
>Caleb Maupin
>well read on communist history
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and philosophy
>tries to start an IRL movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult


>well read on non-Marxist philosophy
<literal booklet when it comes to Marxist economics and world history
>tries to start an online movement
<is indistinguishable from a fucking Bob Avakian-type cult – but on fbi.gov/Reddit/Twitter/Twitch

And the realization dawned on me. These two people are legit representatives of American culture as such, they are the products of it, since no one can escape his concrete environmental upbringing and such. So when these two speak about the future SWAC they already hint at us what it will be like: pure bullshit, trumped up with ego and drive, or, in other words: 70% bravado, 20% improvisation, 10% saving face.

Think about it. Caleb's whole focus on SWAC emphasizes two characteristics:
>individualism (freeze peach, rights, humanism, etc.)
all of which are antithetical to communism, which is to say a form collectivism, and the points of Marx & Engels
>and market socialism
even if as meant to be as a transitional period, although he says that communism is achievable "a thousand years in the future"

Meanwhile, Haz:
>We Already Live in Socialism (TM)
>incel platform that does socialist content
>bitcoin is communist praxis

So to sum up: these two are bullshitters, without a doubt. (I could go on with the examples, trust me…) But is this any different from the general US culture at hand? I doubt it. US "culture" is exactly this: loudmouth, "pragmatist," under-read, self-confident (etc.) fools saying whatever and believing it 100%.

So whatever SWAC will be, it will have this main defining feature: bullshitting.
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Incel humor thread.
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We all know that the USD is the world's biggest shitcoin. Is America about to be rug pulled?
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Incel News Thread
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This guy learned the hard way
>What women think or say they want and what they actually respond to are two very different things
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Hey guys. It's Elon

Hey Leftypol. I'm Elon Musk. Not sure if you've heard, but I recently bought and made some changes over on Twitter. Now I'm wondering, political speaking, what do you guys think I should do now?
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bypass coporate trashcan ?

Samsung is lobbying to get a general exclusion order against phone-screen imports in the US.
They claim it's because screens that are imported by the phone repair-shops do a muh-patent-infringerino.

The real reasons is because Apple wants to switch their screen supplier to BOE, and Samsung wants a monopoly on screens.
Samsung can't go after Apple directly because Apple has enough money to wage patent-warfare until the end of time.
Samsung can't go after BOE because that's a Chinese company, and patent-trolling doesn't fly in China.

The result is going to be the destruction of the repair industry, and a precedent for banning technology parts as a means for installing a monopoly. If you aren't allowed to get parts for fixing your stuff, it's more corporate shit encroaching on personal possessions.

here is a video from Rossmann going into more details
His take is to make Samsung a dirty word.

My questions:
Would it not be a better strategy to bypass this by (legally grey) relabeling tech parts and importing them anyway. So that Samsung gets cut out completely ?

Or are repair-friendly gadget companies (like Fairphone, Framework and Pine64) going to grow once it's too hard to fix corporate monopoly tech ?
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White leftists, what's your plan for after Amerikwa and the EU become techno-dystopia South Africa? Do you really think Tyrone and Lemichael care if you consider yourself an ally? How will you prevent yourself from become a victim while still assuring yourself you're 'one of the good ones?' Are you stocking up on bicycles to use as tribute once Blacks take over completely, or will you just move to an isolated part of your city and get a really good security system?
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NEETS thread

im a comfy NEET, do you like to be A neet anon?
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How do Marxoid dogmatists cope with technological innovation?
inb4 that doesn't matter/count
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Spring Season 2023

it is that time of the year again, what are your picks for the coming season?
mine are
>Tonikaku Kawaii Season 2
>Watashi no Yuri wa Oshigoto desu!
>Edomae Elf
>Kaminaki Sekai no Kamisama Katsudou
>Megami no Café Terrace
>Kawaisugi Crisis
>Otonari ni Ginga
>Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch!
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Was Marx wrong about gun control.

Realistically how do you reconcile lack of gun control in the school shooter era?
These kind of incidents can't go one forever without some kind of push back. Can gun rights preserved without having to live with school shootings?
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>public ownership = theres a law bro

and who writes this law ?
who controlls this law ?
what is this law about ?

who executes this law ?

why this law can't change ?
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bruteforce fusion power quickly

It's potentially possible to use modified low-yield fusion bombs for power generation.

It's definitely not the first choice for generating fusion energy, but since the technology has already been developed, and the production-facilities are build, one might as well repurpose military tech for civilian use. Weaponized bombs and energy-generating-bombs are similar but not the same, so the currently existing low yield bombs aren't directly usable for this but they could be modified or recycled for raw materials. Existing weapons-stock can be burned up in power generation.

The technical principle is that you put a low-yield thermonuclear device into the center of a giant hollow vacuum "filled" metal-sphere that is lined with led, and by detonating the fusion bomb, the big metal ball gets really hot, and you can use that as a high-grade heat-source for power-generation.

It might be useful to do this as a power-satellite in earth orbit, because space already has a gratis vacuum and you can use a mirror array to send infrared heat-energy to many different power-receiver stations which reduces the load on electrical grids. It can also be used to power container ships and huge water desalination plants.

This would use mostly off-the-shelf parts which would greatly reduce the engineering requirements, and could be build very quickly. As a parallel development high priority project, this could go online in a few years.

The economics on this are pretty good, even capitalism might be able to pull this off, because this is not a long term project and upfront capital costs aren't that high. The political aspect might be harder however, because mass-producing tiny h-bombs might ruffle some feathers.
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dot net and dot org

I remember using /leftypol/ back in 8ch but I didn't care enough to come here after it died. I decided to check again some days ago and I noticed that there are two boards now
what's the lore behind this?
what's the difference between the two?
which one should I use if I don't care about idpol?
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Soviet Kino Thread

Thread to recommended and discuss the best/most unique examples of soviet cinema.

The bulk of Mosfilm's productions can be accessed for free on their youtube channel, many with english subtitles.
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Virtual phone number

Recommend a virtual phone number, to register on Telegram
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BLM was a sketchy banker funded psy op the whole time.
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Download NOW!!! Nuclear war is threating us because these officials refuse to engage in diplomacy with Russia anymore. It is your country, it is your cities, do you want to be blasted to oblivion because of these wicked men and women? NOW is the time to do something about it before it is forever too late!!!

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Are there good arguments for why communists should or should not become entrepeneurs, landlords or investors?
What should the few bourgoisie who find themselves sympathetic to communism be directing their efforts towards?
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Diamond Ring Theory isn't rea— AAACCK!!!
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Kindness general

I've noticed people on the website tend to get super heated. I think we need to learn to better communicate and stop jumping on the defensive so quickly.
This thread will be dedicated to saying upligting things to your fellow leftychaders and anons and just general positivity.
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These two have a ton in common
>Brazenly told the truth
>Had hoes
>Angered those in power
>Suppressed and hit with false charges
>Became political prisoners
>Abandoned by the muhleft
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/webm/ thread

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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Y'all sure the proletariat can be saved?
>In before vanguard party
That doesn't work either, they always wind up exploiting stupid proles too.
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>be faggy sjw
>have a handful of mental disorders
>believe that basic facts and constraints of nature and biology are oppressive
>demand everyone cater to your wildly naive and idiotic worldviews
>claim that parents are being selfish if they won't let you indoctrinate their kids (but don't want to have kids yourself because muhreasons)
How can we stop people like this from being associated with the left? How will socialism handle people like this?
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Hidden Agenda: A Post-Revolutionary Game

Share you best outcome from playing the game!

This was my best so far. My strategy was to first get the military under control, then do land reform and set up the economy, hold an election with as much legitimacy as possible, and finally to build up stuff like medicine, education, and infrastructure. It went alright for the most part, but the IMF is going to kill the country later, much like what happened in Yugoslavia.

So what did you do? What worked for you?
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I fucking hate communists

The more older I become the more I understand just how strong is my urge to murder other communists.

Almost every one of them is some kind of a sperg, an idealist, a dogmoid automaton, a lib, a nationalist, a culture warrior, a grifter, a socialite, I could go on and on.
I can't fucking stand you. Every time I talk to one I imagine him choking on his blood, and this image gives me a relief.

First thing that triggers me immensely is the obsession with philosophy. Every time some idealist sperg mentions dialectics to me it takes me titanic effort to not pick up a chair and bash their head into the nearest wall with it.
Seriously, it got so bad that I sometimes daydream about choking Engels and Hegel with a stupid smile on my face.
I'm now convinced that there can not be such thing as a proletarian philosophy. Philosophy is a mind poison of the ruling classes, always has been, and it poisoned the minds of the leaders of the workers movement due to them all being intellectuals. All according to Marxism lol.
This obsession is so widespread that I sometimes wonder if I am the only one who came to Marxism through the study of history and not through some philosophic elitist drivel. It tells

The second thing is idealism (being an insufferable sperg is closely related). It seems like you just can't expect communists to be pragmatic in this day and age. It's like they are stuck between the Scylla of maximalism and the Charybdis of defeatism. It's either "If I can't dance, it's not my revolution!" or "capitalism is actually socialism because they say so". It seems like communists don't have the patience or the mental capacity to just keep fucking grinding to their aims, slowly and methodically, using everyone and everything they can, and patiently waiting for their moment. No, they just NEED to sperg out and express their very important opinion (that 10 out of 10 times is some banal idealism or empty populist platitudes) on every little matter!
At moments like this it usually takes me two to three cigarettes to calm down.

And as we touched on it already, lets discuss the third thing - cheap populism. It is so widespread that I got in more fights over populist rhetoric than over any other thing. It seems like every communist takes his audience for fucking 10-year old kids who can be manipulated by simple tricks. Hey, you know that I can SEE what you are doing? You know we're all adults here? Hey, look me in the fucking eye, do you take me for a fucking idiot bitch? I will string your bowels on a fucking pike!

Yes, I know that our government is against proletariat. Yes, I know that our government doesn't care about human rights if those humans are poor. Yes, I know that our government is militarist. Any more banal platitudes? Do you think you're some fucking preacher that is here to open our eyes or something?
Criticizing - offer. No suggestions - no right to speak. Tattoo these expressions on your retarded fucking head or I will do it. And learn some some fucking rhetoric, sperg. Speak efficiently and concisely, get to the point, respect your audience, don't waste our time, we have lives to live.

Seriously, the only marxist that I can consistently listen to these days without rage quitting is Cockshott, and he is a fucking old fart who sounds like he is gonna die any minute now. But at least he gets to the point and doesn't waste my time, even if he has a tendency to ramble on about his niche stemfaggotry. But I can officially say that he is the least insufferable communist.
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4Chan User Accused of Threatening to Kill Sheriff Gets Arrested at Mom's House

Why does .org want to court people like this so badly?
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personal liberties relative to devellopment

Noam Chomsky has a principle that he will only criticize his government (the US government in his case). His reason is guarding against co-optation, he doesn't want the chorus of reactionary intellectuals that manufacture consent for the powers that be, to be able to use anything that he writes or says for their sinister purposes. I think the Chomsky principle is largely correct but it's too strict, i think that you can criticize other governments as long as they aren't on the official LE-BIG-BAD list. So based on that you can criticize countries like Saudi Arabia or Israel, but for example Russia, China, and the DPRK can't be criticized, because they are the ""axis of evil"" in the mainstream narrative. I'm following this weaker Chomsky principle because i don't want to say anything that might be appropriated for an argument that supports a new cold-war or worse. Keep that in mind when you read this.

Main topic
I'm trying to get a materialist view of liberties. Usually people consider liberties to be timeless conditionaless absolutes. In some places of the world owning a gun is considered a liberty. In order to have that liberty you do need a government that doesn't try to disarm it's population, but far more importantly you need to have invented sophisticated metallurgy and gunpowder. So in conclusion liberties are conditional to development, in this case technical development. Tho not all conditions for liberties must be of a technical nature.

Many people are criticizing China for lacking certain personal liberties, and a big chunk of that is made up horror stories that never happened, but not all of it is wrong. For example China lacks technology privacy.

A considerable section of the Chinese population is not plugged into the techno-social information infrastructure. Since China has only beaten absolute poverty but not yet uneven development. That means if china were to move ahead and improve the tech-rights for Chinese citizens at this point in time they would benefit only the wealthier sections of society that can afford all the information services. That section of society could potentially seek to pull up the ladder behind them selves and prevent the rest of society from gaining access to beneficial information services.

So I will speculate that once China has leveled the uneven development, it will become politically viable for China to advance tech-rights. Politically viable in this context means that it doesn't produce stratification in society. I'm not saying by the way that it will be an effortless automatic process, it will be difficult like everything of this nature always is.

It might be fun to speculate about how the Chinese equivalent to a Free Libre technology movement will look like. Based on my limited insights it seems that at the moment there is no real understanding of FOSS in China and they consider only the difference between open and closed source technology. Revers-engineering is also considered equivalent to open-sourcing. The Stallman argument about the importance of the 4 freedoms (https://yairudi.com/foss-principles-explained-ch-ii-open-sources-four-freedoms/) doesn't resonate because, in the Chinese context freedom is not a term with a political meaning, it merely means not being locked up in a prison. If I had to guess, they will reach similar conclusions in substance, but use a totally different framing.
For instance:
- preserving the 4 freedoms
might become:
- avoiding the 4 barriers to cooperation
1 run the technology as you wish -> avoiding the breakage of functionality.
2 study and change the technology as you wish -> avoiding obfuscation of technical principles and barriers to new functionality
3/4 redistribute copies and modified versions as you wish - avoiding barriers to cooperative development of technology
i know i counted wrong the freedom is freedom zero, but i linked an article that also starts at 1

So for China the conditions for increasing liberties in relation to technology might not have been reached, i.e. the technology hasn't fully penetrated their society. In the west this is a different story, access to technology has been very universal and if anything the western world is lagging behind on tech-rights relative to it's development level.

I do realize it's perhaps difficult to follow my reasoning for developmental-conditional-rights, so ponder your right to leave earth and explore the universe, at the moment you have no such right, and even if you could build a rocket-ship it would very likely be shot down by a military if you tried to leave earth without seeking the approval of governments. But you don't give a single shit about that because the developmental conditions for a space-faring-right have not been met yet. (Space chariots are nowhere near accessible). If the few individuals with the means to get to space were to start making noise about not having a right to freely explore the universe, you'd role your eyes and dismiss it as "billionaire problems". As such, a movement to advance space-rights isn't politically viable yet.
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Based Dutch farmers win big in provincial elections
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anons... i made a girl friend

its the fist time ive made a friend who's a girl (female) in my 19 years of age, turns out it wasnt that hard. Im still afraid of women though

am i winning?
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Why are millennials and especially zoomers so obsessed with gender?
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Feels Thread

Share you feels here.
No bully
also feel free to share your feels in the /leftcel/ thread at https://9chan.tw/leftcel/thread/2696
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Weekly Habits and Goals Check

You know the deal

No one is coming to save you
No one cares about you
Your quality of life is your responsibility
(Unless you're a woman, I guess)

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Cultural ratings thread

pic unrelated
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Imageboard and Chan General

This will be a dedicated thread for sharing and showcasing and reaching out to other, smaller, communities and chans so that we can all help and boost one another.
Imageboards and imageboard culture is important we like to believe. Anonymous culture on the internet allows for the, more or less, free flow of ideas in the general public and for beliefs and those ideas to be challenged.

We hold these values closely here at leftychan. We also have noticed an uptick in spam, so, to anyone looking to advertise your board this is a space to do so. The only thing we would ask is the same privilege from you in return! Thank you! Enjoy~
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Whats games are the /leftypol/ people currently in the middle of playing?
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Does anyone actually know how to make money on the Forex market? Been trying for years, but nada.
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He's back

Your lord and master has been reinstated on Twitter.

Bow and scrape, plebs.

I suppose this is also a good place to make a "Eugene general" to discuss your Lord and Master's received wisdom and awe in His magnificance. You are in the light of the new knowledge of the 21st century.

So you can check out my website and comment on my writings:


Since you all like talking about transhumanists all the time, I wrote an article about that on the website, and also a podcast on the incel thing which I linked before. As you can expect, sexual politics has always been a proxy for eugenics, and when push comes to shove it always comes out in these arguments.
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Macron calls in the North African legion to subdue the uppity neopeasants
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Video conferencing as an Assemly

What would a video conferencing application that can support multiple billion users look like?

Can it be made decentralized with guaranteed high availability?

How can moderation be organized in such an application? I guess some aspects can be programmed in, like speaking time limits, and speaking order could be randomized. Also considering all users would be authenticated could muting or kicking be organized on a voting basis?

I honestly was thinking about VR chat based assembly but that seems far more cumbersome.
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Should millennials have voting rights?

Personally I find it hard to see why a generation of people so divorced from reality and responsibility should be entrusted with influencing the direction of society. Perhaps we need to bring back electorate qualifications. NEETS and other defective people could be give fake play ballots so that they still feel included - kinda like a participation ribbon. This way, they could still post about voting on social media in order to receive the social media validation dopamine hit. That is, after all, what they seem to care the most about.
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Is the DPRK monarchic ?

It has recently come to light that fellow comrades have swallowed lies about the DPRK from the imperialist propaganda
Let this be a correction

<Founded on 9 September 1948, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) is a nation governing the northern half of the Korean peninsula. It has a population of around 25M and has an estimated total GDP of $40 billion. You will have likely heard about something else it has that being their “wild & crazy” leader named Kim Jong-Un. But just who is Kim Jong-Un and why has the Kim family stayed in power since the DPRK’s founding?

<To begin we must first look at the definition of a monarchy: “A monarchy is a form of government in which a person, the monarch, is head of state for life or until abdication. The political legitimacy and authority of the monarch may vary from restricted and largely symbolic (constitutional monarchy), to fully autocratic (absolute monarchy), and can expand across the domains of the executive, legislative, and judicial.”

The Korean Peninsula

<Breaking this down we will start with the term of a monarch. A life of power is not something that has ever been afforded to any leaders of the DPRK. The supreme leader of the DPRK, according to their constitution, is the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission, which is held currently by Kim Jong-Un. The Chairman is elected to a term the same as that of the Supreme People’s Assembly (SPA) which, according to their constitution, is five years. Therefore, straight away this debunks the claim of a monarchical regime within the DPRK, because a monarchy cannot exist with the institution of the SPA having control over the electoral process of choosing a Chairman. However, let us dig a little deeper just to be sure.

<The SPA is the primary state organ, which is directly elected by the DPRK’s populace. There are currently three different Parties represented within the SPA, and one organisation. During an election to the SPA: “A candidate is decided in a mass meeting led by the Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland, which also organises the political parties in the DPRK. Citizens run under these parties, or they can run as independents. They are chosen by the people, not by the ‘Party’.” This means that after these mass meetings, the candidate to be put on the ballot for each constituency is chosen, and that is why only one name per constituency appears because they have already been chosen within their constituency. The elections afterwards act to double-check the people’s choice to see if the mass meetings are corrupted or incorrect, which could explain why the elections have such high approval ratings by their citizens. This also shows that manipulation by the state about the people voting yes to a candidate out of fear is incorrect, and the high yes/no ratio is an expression of the truly democratic mass meetings.

<Supreme People’s Assembly

<However, the SPA is only the legislative body of the state, and with this title, Kim Jong-Un simply cannot be defined as a monarch. So now we must move to the work of the Cabinet, which is the administrative and executive body of the DPRK, and on which Kim Jong-Un does not hold a position. For the record, if he did hold a position on this, it is an office that has a term length the same as that of the SPA. The Cabinet is also fully accountable to the democratically and directly elected SPA.

<The judiciary, on the other hand, is in the hands of the Public Prosecutor’s Office and the Court, which again Kim Jong-Un has no role in, and is chosen by, and accountable to, the democratically elected representatives on the SPA. It is untrue to claim these elections are immune to corruption, but as we can see the people have dominant control over all aspects of governance, which means that the ability to corrupt the system is greatly lessened.

<Looking at the other titles held by Kim Jong-Un, we see that he is Chairman of the Workers Party of Korea (WPK) and Supreme Commander of the DPRK Armed Forces (Marshal rank). The WPK is the largest of the ruling parties in the DPRK and enjoys mass support and a majority in the SPA. This affords Kim Jong-Un mass sway over the policy of the WPK, and therefore the nation as a whole. However, this sway works both ways and the final decision comes down to the people on who to elect to the WPK, and Kim Jong-Un himself. This is not much different to some of the more liberal democracies in Western Europe, where the leader of a party holds the most sway, and therefore the leader of the majority party is the most influential.

<Moving on to the military, of which Kim Jong-Un is the Supreme Commander of the DPRK Armed Forces. This role came with his position as Chairman of the WPK. This gives him responsibilities that are no different from any other head of state, indeed it could be argued that he is less powerful than some, as he is not the face of the government (that is the role of the Premier, at the time of writing this role belongs to Kim Tok-hun).

The definition of a monarchy continues; “The succession of monarchs is in most cases hereditary, often building dynastic periods.” so to explain this in the context of the DPRK we must look at its past leaders.
Kim Il-Sung

<Kim Il-Sung was the first Head of State of the DPRK and its founding father. He occupied the positions of President of the Republic, Premier of the Republic, Secretary-General of the WPK and Supreme Commander of the People’s Army of Korea (generalissimo rank). As we can see, Kim Il-Sung had much more power than Kim Jong-Un, and therefore direct of the same role in government (monarch) does not exist in the DPRK. We have already established the of power from the heavily detailed Constitution.

<Kim Il-Sung had the position of President of the Republic, which was more of a ceremonial role, that was abolished after his death and given to him ‘eternally’ and symbolically. However, he was the face of the government in being Premier, which was neither passed down to Kim Jong-Il nor Kim Jong-Un after him. The other positions have been covered in the context of Kim Jong-Un.

<The next Head of State was Kim Jong-Il, and he held the positions of Chairman of the DPRK National Defence Committee, General Secretary of the WPK and Supreme Commander of the Korean People’s Army (rank of Generalissimo). This shows that he had noticeably less power than his predecessor, and therefore that power is not automatically to a clear cut successor and is instead dispersed among multiple people after the death of each leader so far.

<But there is one clear pattern – the leaders are from the same direct bloodline. Now explaining this is where nuance and context are vital and, uncoincidentally, where Western media often abandons all such nuance and context. The Juche Idea created by Kim Il-Sung as the ideology of the WPK, and later DPRK, says that “man is master of the revolution”, however, only with proper leadership can the creative potential of the masses be directed properly towards the revolutionary goal.

<For more context on the history of the Kim family, Kim Sung-Joo, later named Kim Il-Sung, was a revolutionary and a national hero, who led the Korean people against the Japanese and American imperialists and won himself masses of support from the entirety of the Korean people. He guided the ship of state, at the will of the people, until he died in 1994.

<He had a son named Kim Jong-Il who had, for many years prior, been embarking on a political career in his own right and had won positions across government for his dedication and impressive competence for leadership. He only came to power four years after the death of his father, who he never publicly referred to as such and always called him “leader”. On top of all this Kim Jong-Il came to power in a time of great crisis in the DPRK as the socialist camp had collapsed and those few who remained were scrambling to survive. Furthermore, the North Koreans found themselves under a new economic offensive by the American imperialists in terms of new sanctions. This would have led people to observe the young Kim in the context of both his impressive credentials and in light of him being the son of the great leader as being the natural candidate to fend off this new assault. This is natural as in all democracies to people look to who they think of as the best leader and is irrespective of the parental connection between the two. It would be a lie however to deny any correlation.

<Finally comes Kim Jong-Un who built himself an impressive portfolio of roles and like Kim Jong-Il (his father) he did not come to power immediately after his death. This was because their constitution does not allow for a monarchy, and instead, it places power in the hands of the Korean people to decide. After all of this, I would argue that it is clear that the DPRK is not a monarchy and only a dictatorship in one sense – it is a Dictatorship of the Proletariat. While criticism can, and should, still be made to developing Socialist countries, it is the nature and character of criticism that is more often the problem. If it is a regurgitation of a supposed “fact”, allegation, or rumour, with no independent investigation made, it is more often than not blind belief in what capitalist media sources are proclaiming. The dehumanisation of those in the East – to view them as something of an “other” and not equal to us in the West is a common trope in the media. But no more is it applied as blatantly as with its view of the DPRK as a “rogue state” with its “tyrannical” and “warmongering” leader.

<We, as Communists, must do all we can to combat this misinformation campaign by the West to show the truth of socialist democracy, not only in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, but in all governments around the world wherever the red flag flies high.

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Are women actually more misanthropic then men?

It sure seems like it.
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Thank you.
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Balenciaga's case, what do u think?

I would like to know what you think about the Balenciaga case. In my opinion, I think that all these brands conspire to send subliminal messages and unfortunately, they ha

ve been doing this for several years but we have not noticed it because we do not pay attention to the details.

Now, just imagine, if this is the case with Balenciaga and Adidas, do you think there are more brands in other markets that do this kind of thing?

I would like to know opinions and/or thoughts, as this is a topic that is very recent and is of international interest.
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Why are women aging so fast suddenly?
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pedo infiltration ?

So the EU is apparently pondering to make a mandatory pedo scanner for software.

Many people have pointed out that this is just a pretext to attack:
IT security
and maybe even free open source software.

Many people think it's surveillance organizations them selves that are uploading the CSAM on purpose to push for laws that expand their legal permissions.

And all of the above is undoubtedly true.
Consider that if you invert the assumption of innocence and declare that wanting privacy makes you into a pedo-suspect that means that secret organizations have to be considered pedo-guilty by default, because they can't prove their innocence while keeping their secrets either.

If you argue that effective encryption that can't be broken which is absolutely necessary for the very concept of privacy, has to be undermined for the pedo-scanner. Then that same argument has to be made for proprietary software. Many pieces of proprietary software are in the range of tens or hundreds of gigabytes, and without publicly available source-code it's possible to hide a huge assortment of pedo-content in there. By contrast it's not possible to hide pedo-stuff in open source software.

Effective unbreakable encryption is not only necessary for privacy but also essential for IT security because without cryptographic signatures it's impossible to verify whether or not software hasn't been compromised.

But one glaringly obvious thing that is overlooked in this debate, is how a CSAM scanner works.
Every possible method of scanning for CSAM requires building a giant database filled with pedo-content.
There are relatively simple methods that use the pedo-data-base to create pedo-signatures of files, and there are more sophisticated methods, like using it to train machine learning algorithms to detect the pedo-patterns.

I can't help but think that a bunch of pedophiles got together and said
<"how can we create a pedo-pornhub without the rest of society trying to burn us at the stake for eating their children"
<"how do we get new pedo-content for the pedo-pornhub"

Because what they are doing is violating privacy and compromising the IT Security of computers used by children and scan it for potential "content" that has pedo-characteristics, that can than be uploaded to their pedo-data-base.

Basically the pedo-mafia has made an alliance with the surveillance-mafia.
But this isn't just about them creating a pedo-pornhub, they will indubitably find actual pedophiles with this, and then will be able to blackmail them to either go to prison or join the pedo-surveilance mafia. So it's also a recruitment tool for their crime-organization.

The Apple corporation which was the first that has implement the pedo-scanner-collection-tools and pedo-data-base might be the epi-center of this massive pedo-spiracy.

Before you dismiss this as schizo-ramblings, consider the following:
Since the assumption of innocence is being inverted, we have to consider that those people who are lobbying to create a giant data-base filled with pedo-content and legalized mechanisms to basically scan and scrape every computer for new content, that this is in fact a great pedo-conspiracy until they can prove their innocence. And that everybody who doesn't agree with my accusations is a suspected pedo-co-conspirator until proven innocent.

short talking points in case a wall of text won't do:
Attempting to weaken/undermine privacy/encryption = pedo-creepers that want to spy on kids
Attempting to attack free and open source software = furthering the goal of hiding csam in proprietary-pedo-ware
Appearing to combat pedo-philes would be the best predator-disguise for a pedophile.
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Aut/o/ thread

4chan /o/tists have been saying the n word too much for my liking, so how about an all things Aut/o/ thread?

I'll start.
As much as I like the dream of Full Automated Gay Space Communism, I still really like my car and the roar of an ICE. I don't really know how to reconcile the two concepts. I just want to vroom br/o/s. ;_;
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why do white women fuck dogs
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>what is the communist heroes journey
>is there one
>what exactly does it entail (pic related)
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Wtf. You guys told me that electing Biden and beating Cheeto Hitler was a victory for labor?!
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That's a man.
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<centrally planned capitalism

Is this the solution to the problems that historical socialism faced. If so, to what end should capitalism be planned? How (or by whom) should this be decided and upon what administrative, legislative, or judicial basis?
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Post monsters.
Das it.
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Why the left is dead

Pic related is a protest against some literal who rightoid YouTuber.

Somehow, the left got psyoped into protesting and organizing against scarecrow facefags instead of record high corporate profits, inflation, war, and the wide ranging expansion of bourgeois state police powers under the guise of protection and security.

In effect, the left stopped being the left proper. It's been transformed as a rotting corpse, one which is often strung around like a puppet by oligarchal capital - another spectacle to keep people busy.

One of the most interesting things about the historical left is how sectarian it was. The history of splits and reformations is constant and persistent in the left until recently.

Thus, its surprising there's has not been a more strident and consistent Jimmy Dore-esque leftist counter message against this effete faggotry that passes itself of as the left in popular parlance nowadays - that there hasn't been a more evident split in the left of anti-establishment populist vanguardists against subcuck banal cultural leftist democrats.

And until we see a sort of split away from cultural faggotry among the left, I assume the left (as the phrase is commonly understood) will continue to operate like a corpse and patsy for the foreseeable future.

The way forward, as far as I can tell, comes from a ruthless critique and rejection of fake progressive leftites as a means of clearing the way for a movement capable of both acting as an effective opposition to modern power while also as a germ of future power.
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Post your work face

I'll start
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Far right fascists are attacking the US military in the YouTube comments sections. How can we fight the threat of fascism without supporting US imperialism and oligarchal militarism?
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alt right/pol cringe thread

post cringe
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Are you fags bullish on gold?
<You should be
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Sex Robot General

Post anything regarding sex robots or dolls here.
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What are some good books written by Marxists that critique the state?
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We are well aware that trade unionism is in dire straits right now. The trade unions have all just gotten a terrifying kick to the teeth with the events of last December, and even the supposedly "strong" UFT has people admitting that they feel like its power is gone. How do we assist in the creation of new unions to replace the old corporate ones?
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Is the friendzone really just a social construct. Is it really a simp's fault or do women have some sort of responsibility to let men they know are courting them that they're not interested?
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why are they so addictive?
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>Super crazy idea
Instead of sperging out abt history and philosophy (dats dialectical materialist n sheeit, muh eugenics), why not just focus on appealing to actually existing people to unite against the actually existing ruling class? This might be a better foci for any proper left.
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Self Improvement

Hello comrades. ITT we talk about what we are doing to improve ourselves. I'll go first:

I am trying to quit smoking. This is probably my sixth attempt but I am going to try and take it more seriously this time.

I have been cutting down for the past few months and had gotten down to 3 cigarettes a day but when I tried to quit earlier this week I ended up buying a pack at the end of the first day and smoking the whole thing that night out of anxiety about quitting.

I am a drug addict in recovery and this leaves coffee and kratom as the two substances I can use. The kratom seems to help with cigarette cravings or at least incentivizes smoking because I feel sick when I smoke on it. I might try NRT too. I am going to try and get back into running too since that helped me get off heroin the first time.
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Anybody else masturbate? If you don't I think you should give it a try. It's pretty fun and it feels really nice once you get the hang of it. I bet even Stirner enjoyed stroking the ol' unique property if you catch my drift
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Why are real communists so based?
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It's that time again comrades. A new Global Capitalism Update has dropped

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鬼神 Kill Em All
410,757,864,530 DEAD ANGELS
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COVID Truth Movement Collapses
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Gay porn?

I'm doing a polite header where this guy still has his clothes on.
The rules don't say anything 'bout not posting porn to /b/, but I wanna be sure before I start dumping 2n5s.
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Reminder that there is absolutely nothing wrong with sexually harassing and just being overall shitty to right wing women.
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One's stance on pic related is the litmus test for modern facsism. Choose wisely
>Inb4: don't care/doesn't matter
Kys. You can't be neutral on a moving train/fencesitters will be reeducated.
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Right wing blood sport

A vote has passed in the congress to establish a right wing debate general to argue against right wing talking points and keep them from leaking out onto the rest of the board. From this point on all right wing discussion points should be confined to this thread and this thread will be used for debunking them and generally punching rightoids in the dick. All right wing nonsense posted outside of this thread will be subject to a deletion hence forth if deemed necessary.
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Anon, would you have sex with the Wagner Group e-girl?
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Life is meaningless and we are plauged by insignifigance.
We literally lvie, suffer, and die and all for no reason at all.
On top of this we are surrounded by idiots at any given point. In all aspects of our lives, but, mainily in positions of authority. Vestegies left over from a long dead era of civilization where man worshiped gods and fought for his own survival. Obviously, I do not take religion seriously and even the absurdist answer is a bit of a wet fart to me. Or the heninistic approach. None of it appeals tro me. No matter what I do I seem to be over come with a vast and incurable meloncolly at any give time due to the constant and endless realization of this epiphany.
I feel like it's driving me mad some times. I think I am crazy to some degree, maybe bi-polar. I am starting to experience short vivid hallucinations which I believe may be the begining onset of skitophrenia, or, some type of Alzheimers. I will randomly see black spots track out of the corner of my eye in the room. Like a black non existent void coming from no where.
I heard my first voice two days ago at work. It called out my name in the break room. Clear as day. I turned to see if it was my co-worker who was behind me, but, he was doing his own thing.
I believe this insanity is partially due to this constantly exetential terror that I experience. My realtionships that were most meaningful to me as well are all but dried up. The friends I have are good but my most meaningful relationships are all dead and, as I said, the few friends I know currently will be gone too. How do you cope with this and why? What is your philopsphy for this mundane trepidatious reality?

I feel like I'll either go insane at this point or killmyself.
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Growing Out of Marx

When did you grow out of your Marxist phase? 24 for me. I can't believe I fell for such blantant ideological spooks propped up material dialetics. Imagine being an idealist in 2021, LMAO.
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Anyone else feel empty inside? Right now I'm still sizing myself up too see if I have what it takes to kill myself.
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Sparta eugenic feminist anti-incel totalitarianism?

What's an incel verdict on Sparta?


<Male infanticide was wasteful only of the mother’s nine-month investment. By eliminating unpromising male infants, the community was not obliged to pay the costs of rearing a boy who would not, as Plutarch puts it, be of use to himself or to the state. The decision ostensibly satisfied eugenic considerations. The infant who failed the initial inspection was eliminated before he could produce children who were likely to inherit his undesirable characteristics.

<A question that is often raised is whether at Sparta girls as well as boys,were vulnerable to infanticide. Nowadays few scholars doubt that girls were regularly exposed in Athens.8 The need to furnish a dowry at, or even before, puberty, and the general devaluation of women, were probably among the reasons why a father might choose not to raise a daughter. Was Sparta the antithesis of Athens? Did Sparta expose all boys who did not appear to have the potential for becoming excellent soldiers, but raise all girls — except, one would suspect, those with obvious and debilitating physical abnormalities?9

<We may deduce from Plutarch’s description that at birth girls were simply handed over to the women. This conclusion is ex silentio; on the other hand, it can be argued that Plutarch was unusually scrupulous among Greek authors in remembering to mention women where it was appropriate. It seems that girls were not subjected to official scrutiny as were Spartan boys, nor, apparently, did fathers make a determination about rearing or exposing them, as they did in Athens. The women would test the babies for epilepsy or sickliness by seeing if a bath in undiluted wine would throw them into convulsions. Plutarch does not state whether the immersion ordeal was part of the official evaluation process, nor does he indicate the fate of the infants, presumably both male and female, who failed the wine-immersion test. He does not tell us whether the women took any action in the case of infants who had failed the test, but if they did not, then what was the point? If the decision to expose apparent weaklings was up to the women, they would have exercised a power usually reserved for men in the Greco-Roman world.

<There probably was change over time, with private citizens taking upon themselves the right to judge the male infant’s viability that had previously been a monopoly of the community.10 Such changes were correlated with the right to dower and to alienate and bequeath property. The individual father’s decision may have followed the verdict of the tribal elders, or the former supplanted the latter totally.At any rate, there is no indication of systematic female infanticide or neglect of girls at Sparta, nor is there any indirect evidence, such as skewed sex ratios. It seems likely that because in Sparta there was no money and women could own land, they could more easily be given a dowry.11 At Athens, where women could not own land, a father would have to furnish cash or movables, and this obligation might well be a deterrent to rearing girls.

<Eugenic principles, such as existed in that era, underlie much of Spartan demographic engineering. The Spartans were celebrated for breeding fine hounds and racehorses, so it is not surprising to see them transfer these notions to human beings. By eliminating weak male infants, they tried to give natural evolution a boost, and through the subsequent rigorous training of boys, they assured the survival of the fittest and future reproduction by them. A mistake might be made, and a man might prove to be a coward. Such tremblers were most likely to be younger men facing their first real conflict, rather than hardened veterans. Anecdotes about Spartan mothers show that they are concerned lest their sons prove to be cowards (see chap.). In any case, cowards did not reproduce, for they were socially ostracized, and neither they nor their sisters (presumably young and not married) could find spouses (Xen. Lac. Pol. .). Eugenic motivations may also be detected in the choices made in wife-sharing or husband-doubling arrangements (see below). Plutarch (Lyc. .) agrees with Xenophon that a man could ask a husband if he might plant his seed in a wife who had already produced children, but he also attributes the initiative to the husband. For example an elderly man with a young wife might offer her a handsome, noble young man, and then adopt the children born of this union (Plut. Lyc. .). Daniel Ogden has speculated that Spartans believed that in the process of wife-lending, male sperm could mingle and produce offspring who were thought to have descended from two male parents. 12 Though the male contribution to the embryo was usually thought to dominate, it is also necessary to pay sufficient attention to the female contribution. The rejection of cowards’ sisters and of some wives in favor of married women who were euteknos (“blessed with good children”) and gennaia (“well born”) reveals a belief that the mother was more than merely a fertile field for the father’s seed, and that each woman continued to make her own particular contribution to the offspring. Indeed, in Plutarch’s Sayings of Spartan Women (e.g., e, d), the mothers take all the credit for the way their sons turn out. Of course this is an exaggeration that results from the author’s effort to prove that Sparta was very different in this respect from other Greek cities where mothers had little to do with the rearing of sons after the age of seven. Xenophon (Lac. Pol. .) reports that at Sparta fathers were involved in their children’s upbringing. Nevertheless, Plutarch’s view on the strong influence of mothers is corroborated by other sources (see chap. ).

Eugenics-kun, your opinion?
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So the entire UFO happening was the US military spending big bux to shoot down hobby-balloons.
I feel bad for the people who have that hobby, they probably thought that balloons were so harmless that nobody would ever bother to disturb their happy fun time.

Why did this thing turn into such a big deal ?
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>Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status. Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions. The onanism of modern society is connected with its supposed “hyper-sexualization” and its infertility. It’s not really hyper-sexualization, but the devolution of the spirit to the lassitude of a diffuse and weak sexuality.

>Among your instincts you will find the longing for strong friendships, that the modern evil tries to snuff out. And they have good reason to try this, because every great thing in the past was done through strong friendships between two men, or brotherhoods of men, and this includes all great political things, all acts of political freedom and power. The modern zoo wants you instead to be a weak and isolated "individual".

He's kinda right
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Soviet androphilic art appreciation thread

Post em
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If you are reading this comment your **** will be shortened by 4 inches within 5 years. To undo this curse you need to copy this and paste it on 5 other boards. i'm so, so sorry, please forgive me. I Know this may be seem nonsense but not gonna risk
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Red Skull is now the Jordan Peterson of the marvel universe, this shit is written by T-Nehisi Coates, the real JBP knows about it and he's mad
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veganism is idpol
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<Why is China so incredibly based?

Virtually everything they do in practice makes the faggot western left seethe. How can we bring this energy to America and Europe? We need socialism that castrates faggot pedos, bullies trawnies to suicide, executes drug dealers, and sends fatties to the labor camps.

Are you a NEET? Minus 50 social credit points.
Masturbate too much? Sorry, no high speed internet for you.
Didn't visit you grandma? Shame on you, not report to the reeducation program.
Don't want to have kids? Why are you supporting invasive bourgeois ideology.

<Chinese socialism is the final solution to the western left(tm).
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value theory

Lets discuss value theory.

Marx says the source of all economic value is because human labor is universal.

Marx says human ability to imagine and plan ahead is the source of universality, what Marx originally meant by that is somewhat unclear to me. I think this argument was tailored at countering a bourgeois retort that equated human workers with beasts of burden like horses.
Cockshott has IMHO improved Marx's justification by tying it to the universality of human labor-power. Humans can do just about any work task you can come up with.

I want to go one step further and say that human universality also rests on the ability of producing new humans. This gets important later.

The reasons why this argument exists is because the bourgeoisie tries to argue that economy value comes from capital. For example machine capital or land capital.

Today nobody seriously tries to argue that land produces profits, because the landed aristocracy isn't powerful enough anymore to command mental-labor for intellectual class-war in the realm of economic theory. But some still argue that machine capital is not just tools for enhancing worker productivity, but a source of profits in it self.

Some go as far as saying that capitalists can replace human labor with machines.

I think it's possible to build a machine that's as universal as humans are. So the Scifi stories that have anthropomorphized humanoid androids are basically correct in their assumptions.

However i want to emphasize that the humanoid robots that exist are nowhere near scifi level of sophistication.
It took about 4 decades to get the movement from barely able to walk automatic-legs, to the level of mobility we would consider athletic.
During that time perception of and navigation through, an environment, has greatly improved as well.
However all of this still has to be considered low hanging fruit, because all of these robots are still following the concept of animated puppetry. The Boston dynamics robots are on a much longer leash and have some autonomy (at least that's what they claim in their marketing material)

From an economic theory perspective: if a capitalist bought those robots, they would count as embodied labor power ( design-labor, manufacturing-labor and maintenance-labor). So a capitalist deploying these can only make super-profits (taking profits from other capitalists). They can't make profits through direct exploitation of these bots, because they are after-all just embodied labor of human workers. So at this level of technology robots are merely a means for capitalists to compete against other capitalists. Which probably means that economic incentives are tilted towards military applications.

The robots aren't able to generate economic surplus until they can reproduce them selves. Basically the robots do work to produce new replacement bots and do extra work beyond bot manufacturing and that counts as surplus, and that might be a potential source for capitalist profits. Mind you that those robots would also need the artificial mental capacity that allows them to design them selves. Those would have to be fairly intelligent and the practicality of enslavement is doubtful. Capitalist profits arise through money circulation. Making robots interact with money is orders of magnitude harder and slower than just using regular computer networking technology for directing them via instructions. So it's doubtful whether money will ever command robot-labor.

All that said the most prominent reason why capitalists won't be able to replace workers with robots is because capitalism won't be around for long enough to see the beginning of self-reproducing robots that are capable of producing economic surplus, that could be a source of profit. (Since it took decades to figure out full mobility and impressive but still limited navigation)
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Self-imposed challenges

How that self-imposed challenge going, anon?

Working on that single-credit clear? Finally going to break that speed record? Trying to finish that adventure without potions?

You do… challenge yourself, don't you? Anon?
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Reading General:

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engles Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.
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Is western leftism just a manifestation of mental illness

>Believing the spook of equality
>Deviant sexuality which mainly manifests as a porn addiction
>And inability to form basic romantic ties in the real world
>Generalized self loathing mixed with solipsistic narcissism

These all seem like symptoms of mental illness. To what degree is leftism (in the ghey, western sense) just part of being mentally unwell
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Why is anti-LGBTQ sentiment so strong on 4chan?

Aside from /pol/ existing, what is it about 4chan that attracts so much transphobia? I try to just not care about it, but it's shoved down everyone's throats even when the conversation has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community.
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Women with BPD

Are women with Borderline Personality Disorder aka hysterical thot syndrome a severe mental illness where women become hysterical due to the release of period hormones from the ovaries which then in turn results in women having intense emotional reactions to nonsensical problems and also become intentionally emotionally manipulative towards men the number one thread to leftism because of how prone they are to engaging in woke idpol and sabotaging leftist movements with their drama?
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on the incel/female question - why right cyberfeminism is the way to go

the other incel thread got derailed into age of consent shit-flinging, and furthermore i have a larger point so i will make a new thread. overall, i am of the belief that blackpill ideology and the materialist analysis of sex can be reconciled with one another. it is of my opinion that the reason so many incels are traditionalists stems from a fundamental false consciousness that has its origins in the truth of sex not having fully actualized

both black pill thinking and radical feminist thought share a fundamental kernel of truth: that sex based asymmetries are fundamentally grounded on the ownership of particular reproduction organs. other sexually dimorphic traits of the human species which are not primary sexual characteristics still play a role in job market, but as evinced from the fact that we still have unequal representation in jobs that do not require manually intensive labor, it should be clear that their role is far more minimal. there have also been posited psychological differences between men and women, but while they might have some explanatory power, there is a care that should be made, on how substantial these differences really are, which hasn't been had. my problem with this direction is that it uses a continuous distribution of neurodiversity in order to justify a bipartite categorical structure. furthermore, such an explanatory approach is practically inept, as it either suggests that nothing should be done in asymmetrical sexual standards, or an impossible regression in the material conditions of sex (id est, traditionalism). such a regression is, on one side impossible under hegemonic capitalism, and on the other hand, unlikely with current technologies (viz, automation, proliferation of contraception/protection from STIs, mate finding technologies like tinder, etc). this isn't to mention that a social-material regression would be predicated on women turning back on their material interests, which, without copious propaganda is unlikely. not only that, but many men either prefer to have women that are genuine intellectual and economic equals, or are simps who would rather prioritize the rights of women over their own sexual gratification

not only is standard traditionalism insufficient, but so is socialist approaches. the material conditions which produce asymmetries in sexual relations are mostly invariant to economic distribution strategies. we've had patriarchy since agriculture. technology and the reality of differences in reproductive labour are the ultimate determining factors

like i said, both incels and feminists recognize this. for the former, they note the expensiveness of wombs in comparison to dicks as an argument for why there is this difference in the ratings of attractiveness of the two sexes. on the other side, radical feminists understand that patriarchy is fundamentally grounded on ownership of women's bodies. both agree that the pussy monopoly somehow plays a fundamental role in the structure of society

my issue with feminists is that they place too much faith in their capacity to convince men to be on their side. at the end of the day however, it really does come down to a war of the sexes. men want pussy as social and economic currency. incels understand this intrinsically, since the main result of their incapacity to get laid is the resulting subhumanity/low rank in status that they feel. vagina=power, and men without vaginas are powerless subhumans (women have vaginas, and hence the on first analysis economically incoherent assessment that women live life on "easy mode"). to this extent, SCUM manifesto's inversion of freud is unironically correct. i should note here that while solanas might have intended her thesis to be largely satirical, we see this inversion both in lacan and jung. for the former, the sovereign is the mother, whilst for the latter, man's soul and source of spontaneity is in their anima (i.e. their feminine aspect). in both cases, the feminine is then intrinsically understood, either as a completing element, or the very ideal of completion itself. the problem was seeing the feminine as a mere negation, as opposed to an element which must be sublated for the truth of the male sex to be manifest

(if one is feeling particularly brave, male gender dysphoria could ultimately be grounded in this incompleteness of the male. im not sure how true this really is, but could be plausible. that the man's striving after creativity is contradicted by the womb's innate, effortless creative energy is certainly a contradiction that would cause much vexation)

so this liberal feminist idea that mere protest is sufficient is one that should be treated with skepticism. not only do men materially benefit from the patriarchy, but they in some sense ontologically aided as well. of course, the benefit in the latter case should be qualified which takes us to why incel attraction to traditionalism is fundamentally a false consciousness. a regression is plainly insufficient, and it failure lies in its fundamental ignorance of their real grievances. making women merely subservient to men obstructs man's reflection back into himself as the woman is still another animal which resists introjection. the problem with love (or recognition) is itself twofold:
i) the dialectic of recognition involves the incorporation of the woman qua consciousness into the man
ii) love and subservience are competing intentionalities. marriage, is in the last instance, a mating contract. "romantic love" and its relation to marriage is a prevalent idealist perversion which has its salience vanish when we move to traditional models

i should note that "transmaxxing" is not a serious solution either. and this is for numerous reasons:
i) reverse gender dysphoria is always a possibility
ii) with our current technology we do not have artificial wombs so it is an insufficient solution
iii) even if it was ultimately possible, it would only result in the male subject to transmisogyny since the womb is still attached to their organism

so we see here then that both feminists and incels have a false consciousness. they are attached to means that do not ultimately fulfill their ends. my claim is that fembots (and mayhaps menbots) can ultimately be the final solution to the incel/female question, but first i must diffuse another element in feminist false consciousness. this is centred around the outrage pertaining to sexbots
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How come people don't want to work hard?
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IDPOL: A Meta Discussion

aka /leftypol/: An Exploration into the Causes and Effects of Identity Politics.
Let's get to the bottom of identity politics, bane of the radical left and blockade to normie socialism.

ITT post about idpol and anti-idpol.
Post literature, effortposts, infographics, etc.
Post about what idpol is, the history of idpol, idpol today, the problems with it, and how to deal with it.

The point of this thread is to develop our discourse on the topic. Currently the meaning of idpol and many people's understanding of it is extremely nebulous. This is a problem for us in addressing it in general. It is a problem for the mods appropriately moderating it. It's a problem for users knowing what posts are good. Most importantly it's an obstacle to people knowing what kind of theory is sensible and based versus what is idpozzed and cringe. Most of us will agree that idpol is a problem the left deals with to some degree more or less online or in real life. It is both an inferior understanding of politics and a way of baiting people. What we sometimes don't agree on is what idpol is and how it works. That's what this thread is for: fleshing out our discourse so that we can better combat liberalism (and other right wing politics) and promote communism.
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Whats cheaper? Being an alcoholic or stoner?
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Some clarification is necessary with regards to the Russo-Ukrainian War.
When Lenin quoted Clausewitz in saying "war is politics by other means", he should have appended "in capitalism" to it. Capitalism may generate crises that result in wars, but war is not about economic interest, nor is war merely a different expression of politics.
War is a political failure, appearing as one party (oftentimes the weaker one) using force to "negotiate" and to achieve their goals. War is ultimately a pseudo-politics that relies on morally blackmailing others to pick a side. It is pseudo-politics because politics is not about morality or justice, despite any such motivations, but is about freedom and power.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" applies in capitalist politics, opportunistically taking positions based on political clout. Of course a socialist movement should take advantage of divisions among the ruling class, but it should also point out the rotten and unprincipled positions that members of the ruling class tend to take in this context (bourgeois pacifism, bourgeois defeatism, et cetera).
Socialist politics is the class struggle, the struggle to organize the working class to seize political power without national boundaries; all other activity ought to be subordinate to this goal. Socialists ought not cede to capitalist politics by taking sides on capitalist wars.
We are constantly being manipulated by capitalist politics, making it difficult for us to imagine an alternative. Therefore, our first step should be to ask how we can organize workers independent of capitalist policy.
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socialism will win !

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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Biden is responsible for the Train car derailments in Ohio

This mother fucker is at least partially resposible (ofc along with the CEOs and board of directors) of for the derailment of those trains and cars in Ohio. He needs to get the same treatment Bush Jr got over the invasion of Iraq. What a fucking joke and the Media is totally silent over the whole thing. I hope this bastard gets cancer in his asshole.
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Was ending apartheid a mistake?

Ya, I get it.
>Racial equality, social justice, blah blah blah
But here's the thing, by virtually every single other metric, quality of life has gotten drastically worse in South Africa. I can't help but think that ending apartheid was a massive mistake and that we are currently witnessing the inevitable consequence of putting incompetent people in charge of a country.

If you have one that's mildly coherent, I'm open to alternative explanations for why ending apartheid has ushered in the exact opposite of an abundant, harmonious society.
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Top G here

I'm sitting here in Romanian prison, from where I'll soon return stronger than ever. But while I'm here, I figured I'd answer some questions from the brokies. Obviously, it's not my job to convince you to want 6o be something other than a loser, but if you're driven to succeed, I can help you escape the matrix. Ask away
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>New landlord
>Raises the rent 100% to force everyone to move out of the building
>Renovates it
>Makes it an expensive AIRNB apartments bulshit
>Be me
>Bomb it with 1 star reviews from my 15 alternative accounts so far
So what praxis/revange are you doing?
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Thank you Ana Montes

>“Montes betrayed our nation, but not for money. In fact, she never received payment for any of her actions – astonishingly, she was motivated purely by hatred for America,” Rubio wrote in an op-ed penned for Americano Media.

‘Queen of Cuba’ spy released from US jail
Ana Montes, described as “one of the most damaging spies” in US history, has been released from federal prison in Texas. The double agent for Cuba was freed on Friday after more than 20 years in custody, data on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website shows.

Montes, now 65, made a solid career with the US government, initially working for the US Department of Justice before joining the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) back in 1985. She ultimately became a senior intelligence analyst for Cuba –even scoring a nickname the ‘Queen of Cuba’– and worked in this role until her arrest in 2001, days after the 9/11 attacks.

It turned out that Montes had been spying for Cuba throughout her whole government career, as she had been recruited by that country’s intelligence when she was a student at Johns Hopkins University. Officials at the time said it was believed that the Cuban Intelligence Service (CIS) had pushed her to pursue the DIA career in the first place.

As a double agent, Montes is believed to have funneled highly-sensitive information to the CIS for nearly two decades. According to federal charging documents, Montes was very careful, never taking classified information from her work computer but memorizing it instead, as well as using water-soluble, easy to destroy paper to deliver the data to her Cuban handlers.

According to the Bush-era US Counterintelligence head Michelle Van Cleave, Montes has become “one of the most damaging spies the United States has ever found,” who has compromised “virtually everything” Washington knew about Cuba.

In 2002, Montes pleaded guilty to espionage charges which could have carried the death penalty for her, yet was ultimately sentenced to 25 years in prison under a plea deal. According to her lawyers, Montes was primarily motivated for spying by a belief that “the Cubans were treated unfairly by the US government.”

Commenting on the release of Montes, Republican hardliner Senator Marco Rubio urged Americans to remember the double agent “for who she really is,” suggesting that she should not be forgiven, even after serving her sentence.

“Montes betrayed our nation, but not for money. In fact, she never received payment for any of her actions – astonishingly, she was motivated purely by hatred for America,” Rubio wrote in an op-ed penned for Americano Media.

On her release, Montes is set to remain under supervision for five years, according to her sentence. She will be banned from working for government or contacting ‘foreign agents’ without special permission, while internet access will be closely monitored by the authorities.
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Will some one correct the record on this bullshit article


It was clearly made by a salty org mod and I can't edit anything on united chans. Some one needs to correct this bullshit seeing how org has basically single handedly killed the entire user base.
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Canadian gl0wie is also a ped0phile
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/survival/ - Survivalism, Preparedness & Cost-cutting

ITT post practical survival, self-sustenance and cost-cutting tips, not utterly useless political/macroeconomic/philosophical theory (that you will never be able to implement anyway because you are just plebeian on the internet, not part of the ruling class) and whining that you see on /leftypol/

The target audience can range from scavenging hobos to minimum wagers to landowners with no mortgages.
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>super straight
And other words that get you banned from reddit

Why have all the recent buzzwords to critique modern society come from the nominal right? Has the left ran out of creative steam and contented itself with being a pale shadow of the 20ty century? Asking for a friend
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You've activated my trap card.
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Why is there so much mystification around AI.
It's a method of statistical brute-force pattern recognition and generation.
Is it meant to dissuade people from seeing it as a tool they could learn to use?
Or was it just the hype intended to get investor money taking on a life of it's own.
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Deep State

Ben Norton is doing a Series on the Deep State.

The first episode is about the JFK assassination.
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<Fun Detected
>I'm sorry, no fun allowed

I'm so happy we have non transparent corporations culturally guided by modern faggot sensibilities (err, I mean objectivity) to ensure that AI doesn't development harmful biases.
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John Fetterman is cool because he's the cognitive deficiency candidate. Mr. Oz has smarts, but he only knows how to use them for evil. He made his bones terrorizing the brains of innocent old insane dementia people, scamming them with fraudulent weight loss products. Fetterman may be dumb but he knows how to stack bricks and smear mortar on the bricks for 16 hours a day in the hot Pennsylvanian sun. That is a deed Mr. Oz has never known once in his privileged life.
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i refuse to believe lelouch is a poofter. where the hell is that nonsense theory coming from

lulu may be going a little lightweight on his manliness in terms of appearance, but this absolute unfounded libel of him being a poofter are just too far. hes kissed the green woman 3 times without squirming, kissed the orange woman, he definitely has relations with the opposite sex and is more gentlemanly an non-sexist than he would be if he was a poofter. is this the insidious work of some stupid western gaming fashion gamethery-mattpattestesqe F**EN JOURNALIST?
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All U.S. extremist mass killings in 2022 linked to far right, report says
When will the public wake up to this existential threat?
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>he's right, you know
Deny it if you want, but deep down you know it's true
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South Asia and Desi General

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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>Why don't you want to eat the bugs?
>You're not right wing?
>Are you, comrade?
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Falling rate of profit

Before Karl Marx wrote the political economy of capital, he was studying energy conservation laws. The tendency for the falling rate of profit is partially an expression of that.

Capitalist ideologues that are pretending that capitalism can go on for ever are basically peddling the same scam ass free energy perpetual motion devices.

In Marxist theory, the falling rate of profit is caused by the capitalist system changing the material conditions until it can no longer reproduce its existence.

Capitalism is not a perfect machine that will continue working until the profit-rate reaches zero. It will likely stall out some time before that. In this context perfect capitalism has perfect market-competition between capitalists, and all the capitalists are reinvesting 100% of their profits into new/upgraded means of production. No surplus goes into prestige projects, ruling class luxury, wars and means of political domination. All those expenses will make the system stall out earlier than the theoretical ideal of capitalism.

Marx also said that the mode of production changes once the old mode of production can no longer advance the productive forces.
That is also something that arises from statistical mechanics of thermo dynamics. In simple words low entropy increasing systems are statistically less likely to exist than systems that increase more entropy. The productive forces are really good at increasing entropy and the more advanced the better they become at increasing entropy. War is also very good at increasing entropy, so if you value peace, you value investing in developing the productive forces. It is not possible to choose a low entry path, like for example going back to agrarian society, because it will anger the gods of entropy.

Should we say it's a cooling rate of profit ?
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Well Gentlemen?
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>thesis: depression is caused by being a faggot, not simply capitalism or poverty
>antithesis: late stage capitalism promotes existential faggotry writ large
>synthesis: based toxically masculine anticapitalism is the way forward
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You will never have your ethnostate
You will never have that race war
You will never have a tradwife gf
You will never lose your virginity
You will never have a chin
You will never bed a woman
You will never be a man
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Eugenics, can it be a left-wing policy?

Well, I've been thinking about this issue, which is quite delicate for obvious reasons, and I think that eugenics is not necessarily a policy of the left or the right, but it depends on how it is applied.

To begin with, it must be said that eugenics is nothing more than favoring certain biological characteristics over others for future generations, it could be said that it is a form of self-managed evolution, it has a bad reputation because when it was applied in countries like the United States or the Nazi Germany what was intended was to exterminate populations considered inferior, however, is this the only form of eugenics?

If 20, 30, 40 or even 100 years from now, genetics were mastered well enough to be able to modify the DNA of an embryo with minimal risk, couldn't this be used to improve our species? Couldn't dozens if not hundreds of genetic diseases be exterminated? Couldn't we design children who grow up to be healthier, stronger and more intelligent? And if that were the case, couldn't a public eugenics program be promoted? that is to say, that couples who are interested can access a genetic modification program to promote these beneficial characteristics in their future child. Wouldn't this be a kind of "socialist eugenics"?

I believe that eventually it is inevitable that genetic modification of embryos will become commonplace, and therefore it is important that the idea of ​​public eugenics be promoted, otherwise only people with enough money to pay for these programs could access to them, and that would eventually lead to a much more evident caste system than the current one, where the rich are practically supermen with advantages that allow them to dominate the labor and scientific market while the poorest classes would be relegated to occupying a position increasingly irrelevant in society.

Anyway, I'd like to discuss the matter because I find it interesting.
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This is the 2nd time this senile faggot pretending to be the president has stumbled on the steps of his plane in the same number of days. I honestly wouldn't be surprised is the deep state false flagged him and pinned it on Putin. Kamala is equally a marionette, but one which (at this point) projects a bit more strength. Too bad she's more unlikeable than the dude you have to keep an eye on around your kids. What a failed society and rotten political class.
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Why do they both look trans?
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Cockshott and the sexual selection in technological human populations

In one of his vids Cockshott proposed a tax on childless males because they don't contribute to the reproduction of the labor power of society. There is much wrong with this proposition.

First is an economic argument - the obvious preferred solution should be the corresponding increase in productivity to outset the declining population, and not more surplus extraction out of the subset of the population to stimulate higher birth rates.

Second is a moral argument stemming out of the concept of "justice" - people should not be punished for what they have no control over. To hold that men control the means of reproduction and can voluntary decide when to have kids and when not to is to be ignorant of the evidence to the contrary.
Cockshott brings an example of the Soviet Union right after WW2 when the similar policy was implemented. But he fails to understand the specific conditions at the time - a massive disbalance of the male and female populations and a large number of single mothers. To implement the same policy in the conditions of gender balance is unjustifiable - you don't tax paralyzed cripples for not contributing to the reproduction of labor either, do you? Well, some men are the same even if they can walk.
So if you're still gonna tackle the problem of a declining population with more taxes, then the tax should be levied on the general population as do all other taxes that go to the societal needs, or even a higher income section of the population according to the principle of progressive taxation.
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My favourite part of being a communist is daydreaming about killing rich people, yours?
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biggest place in internet

reddit : run by cia
facebook : run by cia
twatter : run by cia
you name it : run by cia
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Circumcision is a Fraud is Hosting a Web Page with FOIA Documents on Circumcision
Also, circumcision general thread. I think it's male genital mutilation.
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Anime or Ad?

Wait a second… this show is an ad, isn't it?
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WTF is the left

Ok, I've never really heard anyone here explain what the left is (except the one dude with the asinine and convoluted definition about 'how the left doesn't exist because people don't perceive the left or it doesn't do the same thing as 100 years ago).

I've obviously used this place as a bit of a platform to rant against muhleft or the left (tm), and I genuinely appreciate the latitude the mods have given me to do that - since I feel like critique of the left has always been a tradition within the broader termed left. (Bolshevik split with the Mensheviks, the anti-revisionists broke from the USSR, in the west the 60s new left broke from the old, etc).

In some ways, the fake and ghey left is an example of a section of the broader left trying to distinguish themselves from the rest, albeit on a misguided cultural footing within the lap of finance capital.

But, this still an open question: what is the left.

I always find myself returning to the Marx quote - the free development of each is the free development of all.

This presents a sort of paradox, since development (on the individual and collective level) itself is never free. It always has an expense. Moreover, often development occurs faster through episodes of adversity, challenge, and even necessity.

At the same time you have a situation in which something is to lacking of freedom, has very little optionality or autonomy, it becomes stunted or dies, or it develops accordingly as cattle.

So you have these two (four really) qualities you wanted to maximize: collective and individual liberty and development. Of course, you cant completely 'max out' one without sacrificing stats in the others, but you can arrange a society in which all are raised a great bit.

This begins to provide an teleological orientation for the left - toward the maximizing of personal and social liberty and development.

This, of course, raises the question: development, what means.

To this I would argue the natural response - the expansion of personal and collective capability and achievement (against, something that requires both liberty and challenge to attain, with a special focus on liberty/freedom).

This, I'd argue, answers the sort of shared defining goal the left proper ought seek.

>Inb4: anti-capitalism, socialism>communism, some variation thereof

1) ok, to what end..? to what end? and to what end x3? What is the actual goal beyond 'ending exploitation, class oppression yadda yadda.' (Refer back to Marx quote)

2) Regarding communism as such, let's be real - command economy socialism wasn't as glorious as it looked on the propaganda posters or as outline by the chairman of the CP of that particular country.

Sure it solved many many problems, but it came with it own sets of other problems and expenses. As it turns out, centrally planning how much lettuce to grow isn't the very best idea - at least not at the time.

But - and this is important - it's a different time. Technology has developed quite a bit, to the point where literally planning how much lettuce to grow is actually far more feasible and productive than leaving it to private or contracted peasants.

That itself raises a whole other can of worms on political economy. But suffice to say, while the left proper is certainly dead is some sense, we ought to still be able to agree on a definitional kernel of wtf the left means.
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Today on .net:
</pol/tards post cropped headlines from unnamed sources to >imply uyghurs, globohomo, and transhumanists
<Liberal NATO Guy feeds Russian and Chinese bots that are posting silly-assed propaganda about Ukraine
<Libertard appeals to ignorance in response to effortposting
<Kissless virgins pretend to be Chad on the board dedicated to kissless virgins

Tune in tomorrow for more of the same!
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Why are they shilling this shit so hard?
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>The mangaka Leiji Matsumoto has departed for the sea of stars at the age of 85. A service has already been held with his immediate family. I believe he had a happy life, where he was able to push through and continue writing stories as a mangaka. He would always say, ‘We will meet again in the edges where the band of time intersects’, and we believe in his words, and look forward to that day.
Rain is falling.
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Here's another issue the left can ignore, while the right focuses on it and grows in popularity. Quick someone sage this post to help this place stay irrelevant
>Inb4: Muh, akshually chud, capitalist hegemony is the reason everyone thinks Marxists are gimpy fags
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Even though they only make up less than 1 percent of the population…
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/football/ General

transfer window edition
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gl0wie d0x

Canadian glowuyghur is also a pedophile. This is important news I must share with the entire internet. Please like and upv0te
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Mods should explain why they are censoring critical views. Did Pasquale join the team? I thought this place wanted to be more than a carbon copy of leftypol?
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Zionazis be like

Syria got hit by the most severe earth quake in recent history. And most of the world send disaster relieve aid, even the western sanctions got lifted a tiny little bit.

Except for Israel they just fucking bombed Damascus.
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Communists on suicide watch.

Communists on suicide watch.
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What's stopping you from becoming porkie? Is being a wagecel really that enjoyable? Serious responses only.
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>in case you're wondering why the left is dead

Here is a literal white supremacist confronting some electedfag about the federal response to the Ohio train disaster.

Meanwhile, leftcel groups like XYZ Trot 4th International publish long-winded fart-sniffing blog posts that no one reads about about how muh capitalism is to blame.

Now, don't get me wrong, capitalism might be to blame. And the National Justice Party are knuckle dragging retards that should be gulaged.

But when right wingers are the ones actually showing up for causes people care about and do so in a very well publicized way (sorry leftypol mods – no one cares about the right of pedophiles to groom children or the travesty of not calling a mentally ill trawn by their 'prefered pronoun'), you can guess the result.

In short, the 'left' has lost its way and become a ghey cultural clique that generally focuses on the wrong things. Meanwhile the far right has picked up the slack, talks about shit has some chance of resonating with everyday, common people, and been able to present itself as the opposition to power.
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Is the anti racism grift bubble popping?
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This shit is really good

But the fact that it beat out Spy x Family for anime of the year is bullshit. Spy x Family has a much better and more interesting story line and the art is much much better than Boochi the rock. Makes no sense that it not only got beat out by boochi but got 4th. Spy x Family is anime of the year and you can't convince me otherwise.
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>A new report from the US-based Newsbusters has exposed a vast web of media and activist organizations, funded with millions of dollars, annually, by the billionaire George Soros. The outlet bills itself as “an online rapid-response vehicle for documenting, exposing, and neutralizing liberal bias in the media.”

>The extensive global influence of the Hungarian tycoon is well-known, and Soros himself has admitted it on countless occasions – including boasts about his efforts in Ukraine. Soros openly declared his role in promoting the 2014 US-orchestrated Maidan coup in Kiev, stating at the time: “I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia [sic]. The foundation has been functioning ever since. And it played an important part in events now.”

>In a lengthy interview with the New York Times in October of 2019, Soros explained: “The arc of history doesn’t follow its own course [and] needs to be bent,” and he was “engaged in trying to bend it in the right direction.”

>The Newsbuster report identifies the hundreds of media, humanitarian, and social justice organizations that Soros funds annually and asserts that his donations allow him to “wield massive power over information in international politics,” and “mold public opinion on practically every continent and in many languages.”

>Who gets the money?

>Newsbusters lists Project Syndicate as the biggest propaganda platform funded by the Hungarian. It styles itself as “the world’s opinion page” and has a “global audience” that includes “prominent politicians, policymakers, scholars, business leaders, and civic activists from six continents” and “over 140 heads of state.” From 2016 - 2020, he funneled at least $1.5 million to the outlet. It actively promoted abortion, criticism of Israel and pushed for global climate lockdowns during this period.

>The Poynter Institute is also at the top of this list, which Newsbusters condemns as “a global Soros-backed Ministry of Truth.” It received $492,000 during the same period. This money was used to finance Poynter’s International Fact-Checking Network, which brings together 100 so-called “fact-checkers”. The network includes the controversial PolitiFact, and actively works with major social media platforms to boost their operations, while censoring alternative voices and opinions….

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Opinions on the Unabomber and specially his manifesto
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Has anyone here ever been to one of the remaining CP-led countries (China, Cuba, Korea, Laos, Vietnam)?

What's it like? And what can we learn from them?
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Copyleft violatins?

Was wondering how the fuck is Linux kernel GPL licensed and at the same time is used to make profit..

from the Linux kernel licensing rules
>Aside from that, individual files can be provided under a dual license, e.g. one of the compatible GPL variants and alternatively under a permissive license like BSD, MIT etc.
>The User-space API (UAPI) header files, which describe the interface of user-space programs to the kernel are a special case. According to the note in the kernel COPYING file, the syscall interface is a clear boundary, which does not extend the GPL requirements to any software which uses it to communicate with the kernel. Because the UAPI headers must be includable into any source files which create an executable running on the Linux kernel, the exception must be documented by a special license expression.

What's the point of using the GPL license then when you castrated it so, mr. Torvalds? Use the fucking BSD license then, what's the problem?

Also, I never understood how this dual license scheme is supposed to work from the point of the system of law. How is the same software can be under two contradictory licenses at the same time? the fuck?
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Any questions?

saved: https://archive.md/0wMAN

I mean, seriously, any questions left at this point?
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In an unsurprising turn of events, affording women unlimited rights while demanding 0 responsibility (i.e., catering to their demands) hasn't made them happier or improved their well being
Political implications?
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You asked for it, you get it
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>woke cat lady imperialism
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retail is probably the most difficult prole job to have
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It's that day again

Whatcha doing this val's?
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Valentine's Day Reading:
>The 16 commandments of poon
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USAIDS is trying to infect Hungary. Be smart, use protection
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Uncle Ted's critique of the left

>since it got mentioned in another thread, I thought I would make a thread on Ted's critique of the left. These are this most explicit sections in his manifesto on the topic, but it ties into further discussion on 'the power process' and 'surrogate activities' which I've omitted.

6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology. (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)

8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do here is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the WHOLE truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.


10. By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights activists, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities and about anything that is said concerning minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents of "guy," "dude" or "fellow." The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights activists have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and insist on its replacement by "animal companion." Leftish anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the world "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)

12. Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual white males from middle- to upper-middle-class families.

13. Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) or otherwise inferior. The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not mean to suggest that women, Indians, etc. ARE inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology.)

14. Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may NOT be as strong and as capable as men.

15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

16. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative," "enterprise," "optimism," etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's problems for them, satisfy everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftish intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.

18. Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of autism score tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been brought up properly.

19. The leftist is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong, and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior. [1] But the leftist is too far gone for that. Hisfeelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.

20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they PREFER masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.

21. Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.

22. If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to INVENT problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.

23. We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism.


24. Psychologists use the term "socialization" to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are oversocialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem.

25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term "oversocialized" to describe such people. [2]

26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of HIMSELF. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society's expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goofoff at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think "unclean" thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to conform to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.

27. We argue that a very important and influential segment of the modern left is oversocialized and that their oversocialization is of great importance in determining the direction of modern leftism. Leftists of the oversocialized type tend to be intellectuals or members of the upper-middle class. Notice that university intellectuals [3] constitute the most highly socialized segment of our society and also the most left-wing segment.

28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today's leftists are NOT in conflict with the accepted morality. On the contrary, the left takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as its own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. Examples: racial equality, equality of the sexes, helping poor people, peace as opposed to war, nonviolence generally, freedom of expression, kindness to animals. More fundamentally, the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. All these have been deeply rooted values of our society (or at least of its middle and upper classes [4] for a long time. These values are explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material presented to us by the mainstream communications media and the educational system. Leftists, especially those of the oversocialized type, usually do not rebel against these principles but justify their hostility to society by claiming (with some degree of truth) that society is not living up to these principles.

29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black "underclass" they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black-style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all ESSENTIAL respects most leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers "responsible," they want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn't care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a "responsible" parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.

30. We certainly do not claim that leftists, even of the oversocialized type, NEVER rebel against the fundamental values of our society. Clearly they sometimes do. Some oversocialized leftists have gone so far as to rebel against one of modern society's most important principles by engaging in physical violence. By their own account, violence is for them a form of "liberation." In other words, by committing violence they break through the psychological restraints that have been trained into them. Because they are oversocialized these restraints have been more confining for them than for others; hence their need to break free of them. But they usually justify their rebellion in terms of mainstream values. If they engage in violence they claim to be fighting against racism or the like.

31. We realize that many objections could be raised to the foregoing thumbnail sketch of leftist psychology. The real situation is complex, and anything like a complete description of it would take several volumes even if the necessary data were available. We claim only to have indicated very roughly the two most important tendencies in the psychology of modern leftism.

32. The problems of the leftist are indicative of the problems of our society as a whole. Low self-esteem, depressive tendencies and defeatism are not restricted to the left. Though they are especially noticeable in the left, they are widespread in our society. And today's society tries to socialize us to a greater extent than any previous society. We are even told by experts how to eat, how to exercise, how to make love, how to raise our kids and so forth.
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Rage Against the War Machine Rally
Feb 19th, Washington, D.C.
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Why was the feels thread on /R9K/ removed?
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Under socialism, women will only be allowed to be one of these 3 things:


>Over entitled

Not all three, like under modern liberal capitalism.
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Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread Thread

Thread for questions that don't deserve their own thread.
I wanna buy some headphones to go outside i don't want to spend more than 100€ on them. I want them to be mostly durable and secondly to have good sound quality, also i don't want to look like a jackass while wearing them, any suggestions?
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>Globohomo establishment politicians reach across party lines to encourage illegal immigration
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Ummm. Guys…
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Dick Gregory was /ourguy/ (team schizo)
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Are you focused on the circle of concern or the circle of control?
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Is it reasonable to make a distinct between different types of capital at this stage of capitalism:

For example, we're all aware of:

Productive capital
Finance capital

But might we add onto this

Social control capital
Sales and business services (tertiary paper pusher) capital
Communication capital
Innovative capital (related to break out technologies)
Bureacratic or State Capital

Obviously these categories overlap to some degree, and they all operate together within a single system. Meanwhile, each might inculcate its own distinct cultural ideological features and indicate a direction of society.
>Pic unrelated
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How can you be sure you're not just schizo?

also post best schizo vids.
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Minecraft /leftypol/ server thread

Since a lot of time has passed since the old thread was made and all the old servers apparently got nuked by the hosting service, I have decided to create a new one on the Aternos account that I have registered back in the Bunkerchan days. Just like the previous one, it runs on one of the newer versions (1.19.2) of the game with a simple custom modpack that contains tech mods like Mekanism and the Thermal series, as well as some that add new elements to the game world as a whole such as Biomes O' Plenty and Aquaculture. Some previous additions like Pam's Harvestcraft and Chisel had to be pruned however due to lack of a 1.19.x version or being too resource extensive.

Instructions on entering the new server:
>Download UltimMC https://nightly.link/UltimMC/Launcher/workflows/main/develop
>Download the modpack https://dataism-x.com/en/lykCjryezJzfyh4/file
>Extract the UltimMC archive anywhere you like
>Launch UltimMC
>Create an account record in the UltimMC accounts section in top right (no Microsoft account required)
>Install the modpack through Add instance > Import from .zip
>Launch the newly "LeftyCraft" created instance
>Add “leftycraft.aternos.me” into your server list and join the game

To start up the server in case it is down:
>Log into aternos.org with account “leftypoluser” (password: solidarityforever)
>Press the “Start” button
>Wait until the server status bar becomes green and says "Online"
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>Thought experiment:

Let's assume there are two societies. Within both these societies, the only thing produced is apples, which represents the sum product of labor. Also, for simplicity sake, let's assume each society only has 10 people.

In society A, a total of 10 apples are produced in a given period. They are divided equally, with each person getting 1 apple each. (This, of course, represents a society without class division or exploitation).

In society B, let's assume that 100 apples are produced during the same period of time. However, they are divided unequally. 1 person receives 82 apples, whilst the 9 other people each receive 2 apples. Obviously, this society has steep inequality, yet each member is twice as materially supplied compared to those in the first

Which society is preferable given this info?

Society A, which is egalitarian? Or society b, which is sharply divided but in which the lowest members each receive twice as much in absolute material terms?

We could say that, obviously society B, since it provides for its lowest members twice as much. Or perhaps it's society A, in which all people are poorer in absolute terms, yet doesn't have class divisions and antagonisms, comparison anxiety (so long as they aren't comparing themselves in society B) and social animosity owing to inequality.

What say you?
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What is leftypols true opinon on blockchain?

I think hat block chain has huge benefit to mankind and how we can allocate resources in society but even crypto like bitcoin itself I think needs to be defended. Bitcoin and decentralized networks of finance, whether you believe it or not is Important IMO. Even if it flies in the face of our own ideals. It is a step forward for people. Think about how many people have never even entertained the ideals of decentralization before bitcoin and blockchain? Now its fresh in the ears of millions of people who may not have ever known such a formation was possible.

There's many powerful interests that want to see block chain destroyed or controlled by their influence. (The same people who we want to fight against)

And this is why I think we should be defending crypto at the end of the day.
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First Morgan Freeman and Dave Chappelle, then Kanye, now Idris Elba.

Why do famous black men key revealing themselves as racist fascists? As a correlary, what should white leftists (the seemingly only non fascist group in Amerikkka) do to combat this trend?

>Inb4: bait

Fuck off. It's not my fault you have nothing interesting to say
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If you didn't realize this was the case right after it happened, you belong on reddit
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>spends over a $1000 on shoes just to look like a faggot
Imagine sharing opinions with this clown
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Why is the left sleeping on chatgpt?

4chan is filled with creative ways of manipulating chatgpt's output(pic related). TikTok and YouTube is filled with schemes to monetize it for personal gain. But muhleft seems to being totally ignoring it, which is especially strange considering how it may upend labor and markets.

I surmise I'll get response that's a variation of 'but it doesn't matter.'

What does matter? And why am not I not seeing more of what supposedly *really* matters either being discussed or done by the left? It seems like you guys just constantly bleat 'that doesn't matter' while talking about or doing next to nothing. Is this characterization wrong?

Personally, I've already been using chatgpt to make make my job easier. Obviously, it's not going to be useful if you do manual labor or have some ultra shit service job. But if you do anything creative or that requires mental work, it's very helpful.
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Kek. Imagine being this delusional
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Re; ultimate mobile surveillance.

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If the system isn't going to collapse (or if it is), what are some practical financial practices people can do to stay afloat
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Forced vaccinations

What is leftychan opinion on forced vaccinations? I'm on the fence about it. On one hand I don't think workers should be loosing their jobs. On the other hand I think it's kind of selfish and stupid to be a fucking child about getting the poke when your inaction effects the lives of every one around you possibly with death.

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What are we the make of the fact that the (((Kuomintang)) is closer the Beijing than the Democratic Progressives?
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dude, (or madame), why is the overboard catalog black an white?
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/edu/ checkpoint

Hello comrades. I propose a general thread in an attempt to get the /edu/ ball rolling again. Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.
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Thread for Undertale and Deltarune discussion! Post theories, art and bad AU's!

Official Websites:

Official Twitter (news may get posted here):

Toby's Twitlonger on Deltarune:
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Doug Lain: /ourguy/

how can doug lain be so based? Pisses off grifters and anarkiddies by just speaking straight up facts. It's hilarious how he got cancelled for defending Dave chapelle against the troons.

Considering that Batko is compromised (for ~2.5 years now) we have a vacuum in the "face of leftypol" department. This guy is our best candidate.
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Meta rapidly deletes video of Project Veritas confronting YouTube executive about deleting another video from it's platform.

If you are still repeating MSM tropes about PV being right wing propaganda, your leftism is fake and ghey
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Don't do this guies

Guies don't do this.
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Let's face it. This really is some of the best Gundam shit since 00. Mom being a Char and our MC being an actual gay autist has only made this better. Can't wait for what they have next season. Hope to see more of Sophie, because she's got the best smile.
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Interactions of the /pol/ kind

Thread for screencapping /pol/'s idiocy. It doesn't strictly have to come from 4/pol. You can be on any boards and smell their bullshit from miles away.
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What the DPRK thinks of Same-sex marraige

(Pic- Kim Il Sung University who released below publication)


Deformation in the spiritual and cultural life, this is the means by which the capitalist state and the capitalist class attempt to turn the working masses into modern-day slaves.

The bourgeoisie is spreading reactionary ideology, culture, and rotten bourgeois lifestyle in order to paralyze the working masses' consciousness of independence, make people obey the capitalist system of exploitation, and further degenerate into slaves to money. Thus, in a capitalist society, a perverted hobby of pursuing animalistic "pleasures" that has no relation to people's healthy demands has arisen, paralyzing people's bodies and minds.

Comrade Kim Jong- il , the great leader , taught:

“Even in the countries where capitalism is said to be the most developed, the number of illiterate and mentally handicapped is increasing day by day, and many people are degenerating into vulgar humans who pursue only momentary comfort and pleasure without any ideas or aspirations . ” 》 Supplemental Edition Vol. 12, p. 422)

In the United States, where normal human thinking is completely paralyzed and intelligence and civilization are deformed, the issue of same-sex marriage, which cannot be imagined in human society, is an important topic of discussion every presidential election.

In the United States, the issue of same-sex marriage has been a major topic of discussion during the presidential election since 2004 and has been raised as a political issue. Following the 2008 presidential election in 2012, the views of the presidential candidates against same-sex marriage became a concern of the electors. In the United States, voters generally refer to candidates who support same-sex marriage as innovative and those who oppose it as conservatives.

During the 2012 presidential election in the United States, then-President Democrat Obama expressed his support for same-sex marriage, while Republican candidate Romney opposed same-sex marriage. Obama also expressed his view that same-sex marriage was recognized during the 2008 presidential election.

In 2014, in the name of the President, Obama approved a proposal to ban discrimination against homosexuals when they were employed as state officials or company employees, and requested the National Assembly to consider the bill. Obama is the first incumbent president to support same-sex marriage in the United States. So, gay marriage and same-sex marriage are now a normal thing in the United States.

Former US President Clinton's Anhae Hillary, who is about to run for president in 2016, is also trying to change her old stance against same-sex marriage. Hillary was opposed to same-sex marriage when she ran for president in 2008, but now stands in support of it. Her husband, Clinton, also said that she regrets opposing same-sex marriage during the presidential race and presidency today.

One of the issues focused on in a poll conducted in 2015 ahead of the 2016 U.S. presidential election was also related to same-sex marriage. However, the most interesting thing is that only 37% of the respondents said that they dislike a gay president, in other words, that they are reluctant to a homosexual president. So, more than 60% of the rest are saying that it is okay for a homosexual to become president, but this is the truth of American society, where mentally disabled people who have lost their human intelligence gather. In a poll conducted in 2006, more than a decade ago, 53% of respondents said they were reluctant to have a homosexual president. In the last 10 years, the number has decreased by more than 15%. It is a vivid fact that shows the reality of capitalist society, including the United States, which is getting more and more rotten with the passage of time.

In general, in a capitalist society, homosexuals who want to marry are called "gays."

Same-sex marriage is a late-century phenomenon that can only exist in a rotten capitalist society that pursues “endless freedom,” and is a product of the mental and moral corruption of capitalism that has reached its extreme. It is not difficult for anyone to guess what will happen to human society if same-sex marriage, like the stinky stench and foul-smelling capitalist filth, is pervasive in society. Since such perverted same-sex marriage has become a hot topic for candidates running for the presidential election, called the head of state, the United States is, as everyone says, an upside-down world, a rotten end-of-life society.

Same-sex marriage in the United States started with the Stonewall Struggle in New York in June 1969. At that time, New York police officers unexpectedly attacked the Stonewall Inn, a gathering place for homosexuals. There was a large-scale protest struggle by homosexuals to protest this, and it quickly spread throughout the United States as it exploded with the homosexuals' "rage" that had accumulated over the decades. However, even after that, homosexuality and same-sex marriage became illegal in the United States.

In 1972, the U.S. Federal Court of Justice recognized the Minnesota State Court's ruling that did not allow same-sex marriage. In 1973, the state of Maryland passed the first law in the United States to include a ban on same-sex marriage. Also, in 1996, the Federal Parliament approved the Federal Marriage Act, which stipulated that "marriage is the union between one man and one woman, that is, the union of the opposite sex".

Homosexuality has been consistently permitted in the United States since 1977, when a homosexual named Harvey Milk was elected as a member of the Sia Franciscan Congress and the first homosexual civil servants were created in the United States.

Massachusetts was the first state in the United States to recognize same-sex marriage. In 2003, the Massachusetts State Court in the eastern United States issued a lenient ruling on same-sex marriage, and in 2004 officially legalized same-sex marriage.

On June 26, 2013, 10 years later, the Supreme Court of the United States of America ruled that the Federal Marriage Protection Act, which stipulated that marriage was only a union between a man and a woman, was in violation of the Constitution. In addition, a California law that strongly advocated a ban on same-sex marriage was also found to be a violation of the Constitution. However, the decision on whether all states should recognize same-sex marriage has been withheld.

In June 2012, six states in the United States recognized same-sex marriage, but in June 2014, there were 17 states, and the number continued to grow. Today, 55% of Americans in the United States are demanding that same-sex marriage be legally approved.

On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Federal Court of Justice approved same-sex marriage in all U.S. states with the vote of five out of nine justices. This effectively legalizes same-sex marriage across the United States. In accordance with this decision, 11 of the 13 states that had previously banned same-sex marriage began to issue marriage licenses necessary for same-sex marriage.

Currently, more and more countries are allowing same-sex marriage in capitalist countries. For example, in 2013 the UK allowed same-sex marriage, making it the 10th country in Europe to allow same-sex marriage. If you look at the countries that allow same-sex marriage in Europe, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain and France are the examples. In France, on May 29, 2013, the first same-sex wedding (male) was held in the country's history.

Even with this one fact of same-sex marriage, we can see the true face of a capitalist society where human rationality has been completely wiped out.

Capitalism is the shame of human society, and its destruction is inevitable.

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How do I become a better socialist? Having dealt with the American healthcare system for the past 3 years, I can't even begin to bring myself to defending capitalism anymore. It doesn't create a better product or service; It just makes for a more conniving business strategy and if, by chance, that creates a better product… All the better for THEIR bottom line.

Had enough; What do I have to do to bring about a socialist utopia?
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new class struggle tactic

<PARIS—To fight President Emmanuel Macron’s pension overhaul, France’s most militant labor union is pursuing a radical strategy: cutting electricity to his political supporters and the wealthy while handing out discounted power and gas to the public.

<During a nationwide strike last week, members of the far-left CGT union who work in the energy sector cut power to the office of a lawmaker from Mr. Macron’s party for more than three hours. On Monday, CGT energy workers in Marseille manipulated electricity and gas meters to cut bills for bakers who were protesting in the French port city against high energy prices. CGT’s leadership called such moves a “Robin Hood” operation and said they would continue as the country prepares for another national protest on Tuesday.

<“Strikes are good, but they’re no longer enough,” said Sébastien Menesplier, head of the CGT’s energy division. “We have to take actions that are visible and impact those who are supporting the government.”

Philippe Martinez, the CGT’s national leader, this week proposed cutting power to billionaires and singled out Vincent Bolloré, a French tycoon who owns a host of businesses, including CNews, a right-leaning 24-hour news channel. “They can put themselves into the position of millions of people who face energy poverty,” Mr. Martinez said.


A new class struggle tactic just dropped.
Is this going to work ?
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Twitter is apparently pay-walling it's api in a few days

Does anybody know if this will affect front-end-sites like nitter.net ?

I found this discussion on gihub
<It's very unlikely Nitter will be affected since the APIs aren't used in the official way with developer credentials. I'm slowly moving stuff to use their newer GraphQL APIs anyway, so if it breaks it'll be fixed soon-ish.

So will nitter continue working ?
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Why is the other Leftypol so ghey and boring

The mods must be joyless faggots who get off on believing they have the right views. And their 'right view' is typically 'defending troons will somehow smash capitalism.' it's all so tiresome and lame.

How can we improve this place while insuring that people in positions of power (jannies) don't take the milquetoast route?
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Name a better wafiu

you can't
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Soviet Architecture is ugly AF CMV

Seriously look at what Narva was in 1938 vs post WW2.
Baltoid lapdogs are right about that at least.
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Leftist Unpopular Opinion

What is your Leftist unpopular opinion leftypol?

>The West is not responsible for every shitty thing that happens in Developing countries, most developing nations just have completely nonfunctional institutions and many suffer from simply having no sense of national identity or cohesion.
>Also "Muh British lines are bad" isn't an excuse, that's practically just arguing that non-ethnostates/Tribal Kingdoms can't work for Africa, South East Asia etc.
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nuclear race


Is Oliver stone correct about the new race for nuclear energy being led by China, India and Russia.

Is the west going to miss the boat ?
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She's right, you know
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Secure audio communication

Tech nerds will not comprise the entirety of the revolution. We know this. It's going to include a lot of normies, who can't exactly communicate and coordinate everything through text messaging. As we also know, we live in a world of mass surveillance. We have to give normies options for communicating that can protect themselves from the corporate surveillance state. This thread is for evaluating those options. I am currently looking at phone conferencing options and can't make up my mind on these:
-some Matrix protocol tool
-some XMPP protocol tool

What I really want is something supporting phone call-ins, for stupid old people who cannot into computers. Phone OS support may also be important. Some options are more suited to these things than others. Maybe even better ones than I've listed. Discuss, please.
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What if I told you that capitalism being superceded by another mode of production is inevitable, and hence it's only the finer details of culture, politics, and social issues that are actually up for debate.
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porkies turn to organ snatching

The privatized prison complex in the US now appears to be considering going into organ trafficking.

In this scheme the police hunts poor people, then the prison extract organs from them in exchange for their early release.

When future revolutionaries overthrow this system, they will have done nothing wrong.
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On Taiwan

If socialism is anti-imperialism, why do some of you support the dismantling and reunification of a free, democratic republic such as Taiwan?
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cloud capital

Yanis Varoufakis went to Cuba and gave a speech about a new non-alignment movement.

He brought up a newto me concept of cloud-capital as a means of behavioral modification.
He said we should differentiate it to means of production.
(He speaks about this at 18:00 minutes)

Is he right about this ?

Should we add the new category of
<means of behavioral modification
to Marxist theory ?

he also says that
<who controls cloud capital controls surplus value
So has the situation changed since Marx said: "Seize the means of production" ?
Should socialists seek to seize the means of behavioral modification in addition-to/instead-off the means of production ?

To be honest I'm not entirely convinced behavioral modification technology should exist.
In my imagination that's a whip for the mind, but I'm open to counter arguments.
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Proletariat Moments

Post em
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What do you think of forced labor and lack of variety?

For one, I believe that it is very based for prisoners to be working in chicken factories and making bricks. This is forced labor in my opinion, but instead of free people doing these menial jobs, the prisoners do it as punishment. This stimulates more production.

Secondly, I read the bit from Cockshott where he states that cheap labor doesn't bring about automation as fast, I agree. I have noticed that when I watch factory videos, there are many, many jobs that could be automated but aren't. Anyhow, I would like that problem to be solved because my goals are the same as yours: A healthy, happy, clean world. I also agree with labor unions most of the time. I am genuinely interested in socialism, although it seems flawed in the sense that it reduces personal responsibility to the point where workers just don't care.

Thirdly, I would like to ask something about you guys as I have my own views on economics, I don't subscribe to a political philosophy, but I am economically right, socially left, how do we (according to you) overcome the lack of variety that former socialist countries had?

Fourthly, please don't be mean, I am just interested, and no I won't read Marx, it's too boring.
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new target: muslim fashies

indiachan.io : no captcha for replying, very lenient posting, VPNs allowed. should make for a great raid. It's filled with muslim fascists. let's show them boys. boards to target- /b/ , /pol/ and /a/ . The rest are irrevelant and dead. they suffered a raid earlier today, the security will be tighter by this weekend. we must act quickly
just spam random new threads to derail all previous ones. spam porn since it's not allowed
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recession as classwar

Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson are arguing that inflation is mainly caused by rent-seeking capital doing asset inflation. They are doing an economic policy that will cause a recession, and are doing this on purpose, a bad economy will increase unemployment, and that will harm the economic interests of workers.

So are recessions a type of class-war by capitalists against workers ?

If they do this, aren't they screwing them selves too?
In the present by letting China overtake the US economically even faster
And in the future through labor-supply shortages because recessions drive down labor birthrates.

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Name a bigger faggot stooge for the .1% that poses as a leftist
>Protip: you can't
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>It's Right to Reb —- ACK, NOT LIKE THAT!!
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Piracy General.

General for all things piracy related:
Share Torrents, Private Trackers, information about how to obtain a particular commodity for free on the internet; Requests.


Current onion for the piratebay^

Pirate the planet.
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iFunny Cringe Thread

Nothing special, just stuff to cringe and laugh at. If you use iFunny post your own cringe encounters or arguments.
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Don't want to work for what we give you? Fine, be replaced by robots.
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definition of fascism

The standard Marxist definition of fascism comes from Georgi Dimitrov writings The class character of fascism, and he defines it as:
<The open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital.


But somehow today there is a lot of effort being put into redefine fascism into something else.
Even some Marxist spaces often can't properly define the class character of fascism.

Why is that ?
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the japanese secret is, plain and simple, socialism
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They accomplished so little and somehow all ended up as functionaries of the bourgeois state. Why is this?
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Wagie Humor Thread

Post wagie humor here
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>what new year's resolutions should the left make?
Comrades. The year of the rabbit (or cat) is here. What are some resolutions or changes the left ought to make to usher in a glorious, prosperous, and harmonious socialism?
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Is anyone here transmaxxxing?
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It's getting spicy out here.
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Andrew Tates

Now that this criminal faggot finally got arrested his flocks of incel fans are super butthurt, claiming that GAHWD will avenge daddy who dindu nuffin.
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>What are the political implications of the pareto principle both in the left and in the wider world.
Does fact that 80% of impact/results stem from 20% of agents explain the inherent inequality of the world. Is this necessarily a bad thing, or is it just a thing that is devoid of value but should simply be accounted for?
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/k/ - Guns in general

Just don't talk about gun control
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Based or Cringe?

.ogre has banned all 4chan memes.
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If leftists want to send a real message to capitalists we need to vote Trump. The liberals are fucking hysterical and a threat to our democracy, I mean they're fucking calling Trump a fascist and a reactionary, fucking hysterical libtards. Trump 2024.
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Why is this memed so hard?

still remember this shit from public school(elementary to middle school) where it usually was cut into desks by kids being fuckwits. dont get why/how this is memed so much to make it across pretty much across most of the continents. At least, it pisses off west pests. anyone got any decent insight about this? wikipedia fuckin sucks
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If something is popular, its generally not good. The masses are ignorant swine brainwashed by the bourgeois and if they like something its usually because they've been conditioned to do so. Rick and Morty is a massively popular cartoon and one of the creators has just been outed as a wife beater proving what people have said about the series and that its cringe, made by a cringe person.
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Marxism Coulterism anyone?

Is this the ultimate meme ideology?
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TikTok Kino Thread

Post tiktok gems you find, can be screenshots or full videos
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What's his endgame?

Anyone know?
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Twitter Art Policing Faggotry

Crossposting this on as many /i/ boards as I can.

Recently, Twitter art policers have started to go after Mike Inel, an NSFW artist and animator for making porn of The Amazing World of Gumball several years ago.

Mike is just one in a long line of NSFW artists who have been hassled online by terminally online and terminally fandom kids with no ambitions, goals, father figures, or pussy in the forseeable future.

Maybe it's time to start milking some lulz from them.
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Where do leftists stand on so-called hate speech laws under capitalism?
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US is banning methal ciggarettes

I for one think this is based and red pilled.
The whole of the tabacoo industry should be shut down exc ept for flavored tabbaco that people smoke from hookas.
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Elon just dialed the based department.

WEF on notice. Fags larping as leftists on life support due to vax complications and terminal dunning kruger; probably ngmi.
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You WILL use Pipewire
You WILL use Wayland
You WILL use systemD
You WILL install everything from Flatpak
You WILL use GTK
You WILL NOT have thumbnails in the filepicker
You WILL use btrfs
You WILL accept the code of conduct
And you WILL be happy
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What is the materialist explanation for why Europeans are such cucked pussies?
>Omg daddy govt plz make fast bikies stop
I have an evolutionary theory. All the non pussy European men somehow found their way to the Americas between 1500 and 1940, leaving just dapper dependant fags on the continent. Political implications?
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Internet is unusable

Ok, lads, I need to vent.

Why the FUCK is every fucking shithole on the www is trying to make my life as much miserable as possible?

Try to view aurora store homepage from tor - Forbidden. Try to do it from a vpn - stuck at the loading screen. Try to view some reddit thread - everything is falling apart at the seams. Oh, just FUCK OFF!

Every fucking shithole is making gorillion connections to some fucking cdn network, every fucking shithole is so heavy with js that I can almost hear it shitting its pants when trying to load a two paragraph page.

every fucking shithole is using cloudflare that forces me to solve retarded google captcha 10 times that doesn't even make sense I clicked on the fucking boat GODDAMIT! GIVE ME A BREAK!!
and it's getting even worse, now sometimes it doesn't even give me any captcha and just blocks my ass, nhentai I'm looking at you bitch

with every year internet becomes more and more unusable, I might as well install windows that connects to M$ servers over 5000 times a day and then resells this data to gorillion third parties and be fucking done with it
every fucking shithole wants your email, phone number, or whatever the fuck anyway
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>bare minimum requirements to have a gf in 2022
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French pigs beat old people as govt prepares to steal pensions

What are the political implications of Macron being a faggot sub who married a granny that groomed him?
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Stop hoarding captchas

you bourgeois fucks! Just grab and drop your capchas onto the upload field. Here, let me give you five perfectly good captchas for free.

Make sure you save them into your captcha folders. They will be useful in the near future as the captcha NFT market is just developing.
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AMV thread
I know that AMVs aren't as big (or good) as they used to be, but I certainly think they're a lot of fun so lets enjoy the best of it!
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There's a CIA agent posting here, 100%

Fair warning to all the comrades. His posting pattern is the following:
>shill NATO narratives in the /ukro/ thread
>shill nazbol shit
>[get banned]
>posts a cp bait thread and post cp in other threads linking to a website that records your IP address
I haven't seen this behavior since the 8ch times, to be honest. And they don't do it on .ogre either (which makes me think the mods there are already compromised). In any case, it's on the record that 8ch had CIA posters. I think the feds are getting clever with their nazbol shilling – it's one of the ways communism can be defanged, idpol being the other, obv.
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How do you cope with the fact that the left has failed during your whole life, socialism has a batting average of 0 for creating communism and typically devolved into single party ruled market economy, there has never been a major revolution in your lifetime, and western leftists are either mentally disordered losers or end up siding with the bourgeois state a la Vaush?

In other words, what, besides a sort of biased attachment to your preexisting identity, keeps you a leftist in 2023? Is it a rational choice or an expression of naivety and resentment?
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MAGA Communism is based

MAGA Communism is the future of American Communist movement because the MAGA movement itself is in many ways proto-communist. It is by far the largest and most powerful anti-establishment movement in the US. Anti-establishment democrats have immediately cucked out when elected (AOC and Bernie Sanders in particular), and while grifters like DeSantis try to appeal to the MAGA movement they cannot inspire the same populist energy that Donald Trump did when he promised to end foreign wars and bring back jobs. "Peace, Land, and Bread" if you will. Regardless of if Trump is a corrupt fuck or not seriously investigating the reasons behind why his movement has basically defined American politics since 2016 should be a priority of Communists.

MAGA Communism is necessary for reaching the masses - even those that don't like communism right now! Rejecting much of the American people for believing in MAGA results in making communism an edgy thought to be consumed by university students and other idiots.

"Out of the movement, into the masses."
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New Battle Simulation from Burger Think Tank Projects Chinese Loss vs. Taiwan

The First Battle of the Next War: Wargaming a Chinese Invasion of Taiwan

>CSIS developed a wargame for a Chinese amphibious invasion of Taiwan and ran it 24 times. In most scenarios, the United States/Taiwan/Japan defeated a conventional amphibious invasion by China and maintained an autonomous Taiwan. However, this defense came at high cost. The United States and its allies lost dozens of ships, hundreds of aircraft, and tens of thousands of servicemembers. Taiwan saw its economy devastated. Further, the high losses damaged the U.S. global position for many years. China also lost heavily, and failure to occupy Taiwan might destabilize Chinese Communist Party rule. Victory is therefore not enough. The United States needs to strengthen deterrence immediately.

Details in pdf rel.

Reminder that Rand Institute had a similar docu ~4 years ago where they predicted that unless the USA starts a war against China by 2025, the war will be almost unwinnable.

Reminder of based Cockshott's analysis:
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.ogre hate thread

ITT: we complain about .ogre and their troon woke idpol supporting moderators
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National Socialism General

Alright well I think leftism is seriously erased from here so it's time to start to get hip! That's right leftist cucks it's over, we all know that National Socialism is coming back on top. So our primary objective here is to infiltrate the jannies' and also make fun of people calling us fascist or something, fucking alarmists!
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Visual Novels Thread - So...I found this

It is time for us to start the counter-attack, this cannot go on
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>Secret WHO meeting
Get in here faggots

While the left (tm) is busy cosplaying as antifa supersoldiers by fighting people who aren't fond of tranies dancing for children at libraries, the UN and WHO are busy creating binding international treaties the circumvent national sovereignty and personal autonomy.
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>mods can't do fucking quality control
>instead they just smoke weed and shit around on the matrix seething all day
No wonder this site is fucking dead, the jannies put fucking zero effort in? So this is the right-oid libertarian chan and not fucking leftist at all.
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Why this symbol. Doesn't it seem a bit… Fascist?
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<"the matrix has attacked me."
Last words of Tate. What did he mean by that and what are the political implications?
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The SCP Foundation

Hey all, I was curious at to what you guys think about the SCP Foundation shared universe.
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HAAS keygen

Guys are there any keygen or something for HAAS machines' option codes? I can't buy it anymore because i live in country with which HAAS stopped all business relations
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Anyone else here play Gikopoi?

It's like a mix of 2ch and habbo hotel.
No accounts, no registration, no money, no accounts. Just hang out and chat! Been going strong since 2003.
A number of people from leftypol Matrix play but no clue how many board users know about this. It's been a meme on 4chan since 2004, but it's a bit esoteric.

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Globohomo representative Lula hides as protestors storm govt building in Brazil
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What are the political implications of practice being the criterion of determining truth?
>Marxists hold that man's social practice alone is the criterion of the truth of his knowledge of the external world. What actually happens is that man's knowledge is verified only when he achieves the anticipated results in the process of social practice (material production, class struggle or scientific experiment). If a man wants to succeed in his work, that is, to achieve the anticipated results, he must bring his ideas into correspondence with the laws of the objective external world; if they do not correspond, he will fail in his practice. After he fails, he draws his lessons, corrects his ideas to make them correspond to the laws of the external world, and can thus turn failure into success; this is what is meant by "failure is the mother of success" and "a fall into the pit, a gain in your wit". The dialectical-materialist theory of knowledge places practice in the primary position, holding that human knowledge can in no way be separated from practice and repudiating all the erroneous theories which deny the importance of practice or separate knowledge from practice. Thus Lenin said, "Practice is higher than (theoretical) knowledge, for it has not only the dignity of universality, but also of immediate actuality."
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Simping aint easy

who's got more pics?
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The Wolff

New Global Economic Update dropped, sempai discusses the economics of the Ukraine proxy war this time.

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Why are people on the far left so mentally unwell?
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Unionizing game workers


At long last, has the fire been lit?
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Merry Christmas, fellow kidults!
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Sweet Jesus who greenlit this? Why bother making anything at all when you know everyone is going to hate it?
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Why do they do it /r9k/?

Why do women lie about this shit?
I know so many men who have had their life ruined by false rape accusations. People believe them out of the gate with out any real reason to, either.
Just because bitch…women, decide one day they regret they sex they ADMITTEDLY agreed too doesn't make what they did rape and frankly the women coming out right now come off as people who want nothing more than to chase clout off this mans success.

So why, though, like, are women really this fickle? It's fucked up. What is to be done?
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Mr. Castro, how come you are boarding a Soviet airplane?
>Simply bekoss sovietic are our friends. And hear, you tok away our plants. Hear united states you the authority rob our plants. And the sovietic plan our the plan. That is…
Mr. Castro, are you saying that the American people are not your friends?
>The American people I think is good people. Yes. They are they have not a charge with the guilty of all the lies of publiçity uuuhm… hell to them.
Mr. Castro, can I ask if…
>The people of United State is good people!
Yes, thanks for clarifying, Mr. Castro.
>Havula people is wonderful people.
How do you like the…
>United state people is very good people.
How do you like the American press?
How do you like the American press?
>Ha ha ha. You will report it. Are wonderful. You're the writers. Are wonderful. But you are not the owners. Any newspaper belongs to the monopoly here.
[Sweating hands cut the film here.]
>Say us tyu know, two our puh quiggly our planes are… catch… our airplane delegation were a cupid too, and right now we don't know if we gan take airplane to Cuba. We don't know at this time. We were not sure. And so Khrushchev offer his airplane.
Is Khrushchev going to Cuba?
>Kush Kruchov is good friend good Cubans friend. Wanderful person. Sympathetic… Sympatetico. What do you want that we do? You leaf us with South petrolium. Kruchov give petrolium. You leaf us with South sugar. Khrushchev buy sugar. Here you are leaders speak about aggression to Cuba. Kruchov has speak about impending Cuba. You toad to take our plan Kruschov plan is our plan. Kruschov is friend.
Are you a communist, Fidel?
>Well… Wait for the history! The history will take what we are! You don't know anything about you know.
Castro climbs a ramp and off to Cuba.
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>even though Musk has lost more money than any human in history, he won't be going hungry any time soon – he’s still the world’s second-richest person
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I enjoy being a hate filled person and use it to fuel my leftism
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Ass thread

Ass thread. Nothing degenerate like furry.
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How are you all so incapable of having a wiki

you've lost your "leftypedia" wiki domain twice in 2 years without any good excuses. Literally just put it on a cheap VPS and pay off a few years of the domain
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>the globalist deep state isn't re— ACK!
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Wnhy was the bombing of Yugoslavia needed and justified?

>mass genocide taking place by insane serbians
>Multiple attempts at peace from NATO
>only around 1000 civilians died
>stopped a fucking literally genocide

Why was the bombing of Yugoslavia necessary?
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I couldn't find it so i'll make a new one.
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Confess your sins anon.
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Andrew Tate is was the most googled name in 2022

>Andrew Tate, a notorious red pill speaker, was brought onto Pierce Morgan's show to discuss his exploding popularity as the number one person searched for in Google this year.
What are the political implications of the black and red pill hitting the mainstream?
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Google(tm) Task Mate(tm), the new quirky way of wageslaving for less than minimum wage!
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Avoiding bot spam

Do you think the internet will eventually be so full of computer-generated text that traditional text-based interaction will become intolerable? Will we all be forced to adopt real-time audio-based interaction because eventually it'll be the only way to be sure you're communicating with a real person?
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>tfw no hapa gf
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If a dictatorship of the proletariat ever emerges in the anglosphere, it might not be portrayed as a far-left phenomenon. To the contrary, its likely be perceived as the seizure of power by white cis male supremacists. Of course this will happen not because its the truth, but because such is simply how one interprets the world under the influence of the ruling ideology.
>Democrat ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…they must be contained
>Republican ideologues: the working class is racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, et cetera…which is BASED and REDPILLED
Indeed, it might even be possible that the far-right ends up supporting an anglosphere DotP based on this illusion. Of course we should reject any notion of a red-brown alliance, but the accusation may be hurled at us regardless.
The working class ought to have nothing to fear due to this, as we know that the vast majority of proles of all races reject identity politics. But we also know that every working class movement has involved a petty-bourgeois intelligentsia. These intellectuals are vulnerable to such ideological trickery, and it might be the case that many self-identifying socialists, communists and anarchists - from moderate social democrats to the most hardline Marxist-Leninists - will immediately reject an anglosphere DotP. We must therefore be critical of our own camp just as much as we are of the bourgeois ideologues.
However, the most important point is for those who take these warnings seriously. The worst decision one can make is, through being overly critical of the ruling ideology, to then misperceive any movement decried as "white cis male supremacist" or whatever to be a working-class movement. This is unironically how some socialists might foolishly end up supporting neo-Nazis. We must not fall into the trap of outright rejecting anything we perceive as bourgeois or passively accepting anything that is "anti-capitalist", "anti-elitist", "anti-establishment" and so on.
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Does anyone remember space_'s music producer name? It was something like "DJ Unnu".
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Mind Game Anime

Hello. I want some anime that have people attempting to outsmart each other as a major part of the show. I already watched Death Note, Code Geass, Hyouka, Classroom of the Elite, Kaiji, Akagi, No Game No Life (some of it was nonsense, but some of it was really impressive), The Promised Neverland, Legend of the Galactic Heroes (I am mentioning this one even though it wasn't mainly focused on mind games so nobody suggests it anyway), One Outs, Talentless Nana, Kakegurui and Zankyou no Terror (it focused on mind games at the start). Please tell me of more mind game anime.
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Abatap 2 is coming soon to cinemas near you. What did you guys think of Abatap 1 – The Guy in the Wheelchair?
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Want to share downblouse pics?
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Site updates: New constitution and /CHAD/ Board

After much discussion and being voted for by a democratic majority, in the matrix. the new leftychan constitution has come into effect, replacing the outdated pre-split document. This should hopefully provide more clarity over the general goal of leftychan, the rights of users, the powers and constraints of mods as well as the specifics of how our user democracy functions. Please feel free to ask any questions regarding the constitution in this thread or in the Matrix Congress room, which we encourage you all to join using the link above.
Additionally, another vote has passed to trial a self-improvement board on /777/ under the name of /chad/, which will be the roulette board for the next two months, replacing /roy/. Finally, for those not in the matrix chats, here is a recent votes and their outcomes:

10/21/22 - All mod account and janny accounts that have been inactive for 15 weeks or longer be deleted on the staff democratically decided upon. PASSED - 5 Yes - 0 Nay
10/15/22 - Make the maga communism thread cyclical in order to keep the board from getting shit up with tons of maga communism threads NOT PASS - 1 Yea, 4 Nay
10/11/22 - Tupamaro becomes an official jannoid PASS - 5 Yea, 1 Nay
10/11/22- /a/ will return to the board roster PASSED - 6 yeah 0 Nay
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Why is porkie suddenly worried about misinformation and extremism so much?
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How do young people even move out of their parents now? I'm nearly 18 years old with zero plans to go to college and I don't have my driver's license. I live in California so rent will cost an arm and a leg. My dad bought a house in this hellhole and he's expecting me to work and help him pay the mortgage if I want to live to live here. I don't want to live in this hot as fuck place, if you know California as it is now it's getting hotter every year and the fires get worse and worse. What I really want is a place to start fresh in another state, but rent is going to be costly as fuck in every city in this country.
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>look who came out of his cave! Still readin those marx's kid, you know stalin killed 500 million people anon! You just need to get a job
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The worst thing about modern isekai is all the good or even decent stuff is nowhere near reaching a satisfying conclusion yet. Which do you think will conclude first?
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European countries attacked by the Soviet Union. This is why NATO is expanding tsnkies. You think your former wards forgot?
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Radicalise me from zero

I have been never exposed to philosophy out of religion, but I beated the religion with thinking,
I want to learn from zero to all the way into marx, make a reading road for me
>pic unrelated
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Why are white people so embarrassingly dopey and low t?

Pic is only marginally related, but is illustrative of the way in which whites look like literal clowns/mental invalids (rest in piss, fag). Where does the meme about white people being heartless Aryan conquerors come from? If anything, whites are a race of overweight fags and cucks with nasally voices and effeminate mannerisms. Seriously, was every other race just that weak 300 years ago, or did white degenerate into their present condition?
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So why did mods let the site get taken over by right-wingers in the name of free speech?
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American Collapse General

Post everything related to the ongoing collapse. Also, if you have predictions about how long the Empire will survive, feel free to tell us about it.
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Did you catch the Fauci-Wuhan bioweapon? What was it like?
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>Do the masses reject Marxism and leftism because we aren't chad?

We can know that women don't really want to fuck anyone but chad, but sometimes they'll settle. Is it like that with the masses as well. For example, the won't put they're neck on the line to organize and fight for revolution unless there is a chad leader (think Mao or Fidel)?
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>Diamond ring theory isn't a real thi — ACK
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Merry christmass leftychads!

This board is so unfestive!
We need a christmass general.
Merry christmass!
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Merry 'X'mas to europoors

Here's to another year of becoming a minority in your own countries while being suppressed/censored/arrested by faggy bureacratic ghouls and freezing to death. Don't forget, at least you get free [insert] and are standing up to Putler!
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2022 was a test

And the left failed
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No central heating.

Will get even colder today than it was yesterday.
Guess i'll die then.
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Potential Gas Outage During Winter Storm in Wisconsin.

LlI live here and we just had days with -12°F (-24°C) and Wind Chills as low as -40°F (-40°C) or lower. Shitty outdated fossil fuel infrastructure failure and now they asking the largest population of the state on the Christmas Weekend to lower temperatures after doing hikes on energy bills. It's a fucking mess. Feel free to ask me anything.

Read below. I'll answer questions because I am now living through a potential natural gas outage event in the US.


We Energies asks customers to lower thermostats to 60°F.

<Company officials blamed the unprecedented request on an equipment failure at one of its suppliers out of state.


>In an unprecedented move late Friday, We Energies asked customers to reduce natural gas use by lowering thermostats to 60-62 degrees.

>"This request comes after one of the interstate pipeline suppliers who provides natural gas to We Energies experienced a significant equipment failure — reducing the amount of fuel they normally send by 30%," a statement posted to the company's website and social media accounts said.

>We Energies spokesman Brendan Conway identified the supplier as Guardian Pipeline, a subsidiary of Oklahoma based ONEOK.

>"Earlier [Friday], Guardian experienced two valve malfunctions at its Sycamore compressor station in DeKalb County, Illinois, which resulted in reduced capacity on our system," ONEOK spokesman Brad Borror said in an emailed statement late Friday evening.

>"Our crews are focused on resolving the issue and restoring capacity in a timely manner. One valve has been restored to service, and we continue working on the second," Borror added.

>Conway said We Energies officials would reassess the situation on Saturday.

>The company's unusual request for lowered thermostats across the state comes as Wisconsinites are braving one of the coldest nights of the year. Two days before Christmas, homes likely have more people than usual as families gather for the holidays.

>"We understand no one wants to turn down a thermostat when it's really cold," Conway said in a virtual interview, "But if we get people to turn down to 60-62 degrees, throw on an extra sweatshirt, an extra blanket, it's going to be cool but not dangerously cold and we'll hopefully be able to get the pipeline at full speed and get everything up and running as quickly as possible. "

>Online, customers blasted the company for its request.

>"During these temperatures? That’s nuts," one Twitter user replied.

>"Not with what I just paid on my last bill," another user quipped.

>Many flat out rebuffed the ask.

>"Cranking it to 75, thanks for jacking my rates!!!," one person wrote, referring to the Public Service Commission's approval this month of a 10.9% rate hike for We Energies' residential customers. The increase is expected to take effect in January.

>If customers complied with the request, the We Energies website said it would "avoid a significant natural gas outage."

>"The real issue becomes turning it back on again. It's not like flipping on a switch; it's not like that. You literally have to go to every home; turn their meter on, go inside their home; relight their pilot light, check that all of their natural gas appliances are working properly and safely and it takes some time," Conway added.

>The disclosure of the issue Friday came one day after Governor Tony Evers signed an executive order declaring an energy emergency across the state.

>"@GovEvers has been briefed by the Public Service Commission and Wisconsin Emergency Management regarding the situation with We Energies," a spokesperson tweeted, "Our office will remain in close contact with local, state, and federal partners as we continue to closely monitor this situation."
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>Roasties fend for Chad's seed so bad they're literally resurrecting it from the dead.
It's over.
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I'll remove this when the links get updated

….but, in the meantime, I forgot to post about this: As some of you are probably aware the matrix.leftychan.net captcha system is broken making it impossible to create an account over your element clients.
In order to by pass this you can make an account in your browser @ https://talk.leftychan.net and then you will be able to log onto to your user from the element client. Then you can join #leftychanspace:matrix.leftychan.net and you will be taken to the appropriate rooms.

Sorry for the inconvenience! This will be fixed as soon as possible.
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Official IRC

Hello everyone. I am making this post to announce the establishment of the leftychan official IRC network: irc.leftychan.net/6697 #leftychan
It took about a days worth of work but we finally managed to get her up and running. We plan to establish a bridge connection in the future to the matrix and fbi.gov chats and possibly a massive bridge room too. Also I2P service is coming in the future. So, come join us, anon! It sure would be nice having you around the IRC!
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How do you spot wreckers? And when you spot them, how do you stop them from destroying your org?
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/soy/ - soyjak general

non coal edition

Previous thread: https://archive.ph/pDgN6

Soycraft 1.16.5
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Feds collect data on how gamers treat npcs. What are they signalling?
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<2023 Year of Leftychan Supremacy

>Lil Tay knows what the fuck is up. Leftychan is the best left chan - minus that one weirdo incel burgerfaggot. Leftypol jannies ain't shit though. They don't ball like lil Tay. They can't got stacks on stacks like the uyghas on leftychan. In 2023, we run dis shit and bouts to accelerate on dem boojie muthafuckas , ya heard.
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Since /leftypol/ is downright autistic at times I decided to make a Debunk thread where anticommunist arguments are presented with their debunks by users.
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Getting a FUGGEN JOB

I've sent my CV to 50 different sources.

No reply yet…

Now what? (for real)
>pic completly unrel.
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<Revolutionary Left Victories In Our Lifetimes Thread
Itt we create a complete list of wins for the revolutionary left during our lifetimes

I'll start


>…. Ya I got nothing
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We should appropriate these phrases from the fringes of the altright. They all critically identify features of the current system.


globalized homogenity
the tendency for the lowest classes to run amok and flout laws while working/middle class people are subject to ever more restrictions/policing over their daily lives.
people whose lives increasingly resemble that of the social insect, who belong to a hive and thus live in largely undifferentiated prefab mediocrity, often separated from literal production of commodities and instead employed within various layers of tertiary activity necessary for the perpetuation of not necessarily commodity production but the hive itself in its particular form.
<PMC - Pantsuit bosswoman class
Professional managerial class. That class engaged in activities of social conditioning rather than direct commodity production. Naturally the greatest defenders of the extant social relations. often both an indirect economic and direct ideological parasite upon the actual working class.
Not a phrase persay, but rather a sort of objective of socialism and communism rather than muhequality. It's the notion that the economy ought not serve either bare individuated self-interest in the form of private properity nor teleological principle of muhequality, which is always fake and ghey. Rather, it should be geared to expanding the capability of individuals and society at large. A fine but important distinction which runs counter to the lame sjw nonsense which usually passes for left.

Leaning harder into the direction of 'wah amerikkka' rhetoric is tired and spent. Why not adopt some of the above phrases, which are infused with power.
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Why did the CIA spread disinfo about Trump?

You guys told me Trump was part of the establishment. Wtf
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Let's have a fun little family tree thread /hobby/You can whip one of these up in MSpaint in about ten minutesI'd like to see what all of yours look like
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Wiki says that Stalin killed 150-350k Polish citizens and that he wanted to destroy Polish culture as a whole. How do they arrive at these figures and conclusions? The latter claim (muh culture) is obviously false – just take into account the fact that Poland became communist after the war and (what a shock!) they didn't erase their culture. But what about the 150-350k figure? Did the soviets do some kind of "mini cheka" while they occupied Eastern Poland? The figures would seem excessive for such a short period of time. Or are Western historians counting the Poles sent by the Nazis to attack Ukraine as casualties of soviet occupation?
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ITT: we say some slurs in order to separate ourselves from the wokescolds