/b/ - Siberia

I don't like this guy, but he's obviously right about this one.
Broken clock, etc.

>>157343
In the parallel reality Master Tate is a wise philosopher who teaches queer acceptance to young men.

>>157334 (OP)
Tate was completely correct to make the analogy that we are in the matrix, if you watch the matrix as if it was meant to be a criticism of capitalism and ruling class ideology it makes complete sense (to me).

He could have been a misogynistic dumbass on the internet, idk enough about that, but I don't believe he actually hurt any women IRL. He got his presence wiped off the internet and arrested precisely because he had a large male following and was giving them a baby critique of the current system. And even as infantile as his analysis was it, this couldn't be tolerated by the bourgeois.

I'm not even saying he's a leftist. But so called leftists that label him as a misogynist and say it's a good thing he got cancelled don't understand what happened and don't understand what the real danger is. Leftists could have piggy backed off his popularity to educate young men about Marxism. Instead they support squashing any growing criticism of what actually exists.

>>157390
>as if it was meant to be a criticism of capitalism
lol "as if." That's like watching ''Triumph of the Will" and then saying "if you watch it as if it's intended to be Nazi propaganda you understand what the intended message was." The Matrix is not a subtle movie.

>>157391
The Matrix is just baby's first PoMo, you wouldn't get it unless you watch the whole trilogy. But then the Wachowskis backpedalled and said it was about transitioning (even though they told how much they love Baudrillard and were inspired by his works).

>>157392
>The Matrix is just baby's first PoMo, you wouldn't get it unless you watch the whole trilogy.
The first one literally ends with an RATM song.
>But then the Wachowskis backpedalled and said it was about transitioning (even though they told how much they love Baudrillard and were inspired by his works).
A couple thoughts on this which should be considered by everyone on the internet who brings this up:
Firstly, two things can be true. It's possible for a critique of capitalism to also have some sort of personal mental health metaphorical subtext. These aren't necessarily contradictory statements.
Secondly, the anti-capitalist message is so obvious that this later trivia is in "who cares?" territory. I didn't have to be a well-read Marxist or be familiar with Baudrillard to pick up on the anti-capitalist message in the first movie. Like if John Carpenter came out tomorrow and said "actually, They Live! was a metaphor for my experience as a synth player" nobody would give a shit, they definitely wouldn't be quoting it years later on the internet as though that statement somehow changed the movie for anyone who had actually seen the movie.