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A video game that nintendo had a legal distribution monopoly on was leaked ahead of the official release. They got really mad about that and they are trying to take it out on the video-game emulation communities, by attacking emulation related software projects on github.
So the lesson here is if you give companies like that money they are going to use it to attack your hobbies. I think this legitimizes "pirating" games because you have no legal option to buy these games without also supporting nintendo's legalistic mafia-terror.
If copy"right" wasn't set up like a monopoly, and you could buy these specific games from any distributor not just nintendo, so that you could choose to buy from non-mafia sellers, it would at least be logically possible to make a case against "piracy". But as long as that's not possible "piracy" is basically just self defense. Keep in mind that nintendo doesn't make games, it's just a legal entity, and not the same as the people that make the games like for example programmers and artists.
Obviously there also is the hole deal with DRM which is total hypocrisy, it basically attacks the concept of personal ownership of your possessions. It's property-rights for me but not for thee.
If they were to reform copy"right" and remove the distribution monopoly aspect, so that everybody with the means to distribute copies was free to do so as long as they gave royalties (as a form of revenue sharing) to the people who actually created the stuff that is being copied. Maybe that would work.
But as long as they keep the monopoly part "piracy" is basically just competing distributors that were arbitrarily banned from participating in the market. Some times people make the strange argument that pirates gain from the work of others but that's also true for the capitalists that own nintendo, by that logic all of nintendo's profits are pirated.
I sometimes feel like the copy-monopolists take the most extreme ideological positions, while we don't and that's why this hole shit drifts ever more towards reactionary insanity where Nintendo gets to rape random software devs on github as some kind of bully-frustration release mechanism and it's a crime if you play with toys "the wrong way". Maybe we should redefine piracy as everything that keeps works-of-art outside the creative-commons/public-domain and drm as a product defect. Maybe that will create a counter-weight.
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▶ No.12099>>12100
>>12098 (OP)Grow up and talk to people outside
Millennial loser
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▶ No.12100>>12101
>>12099>I'm a Nintendo simpwow that's so sad.
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▶ No.12101>>12102>>12103
>>12100It sounds like you're the one throwing money at them for games and dorky licensed products. Idk though. Maybe you craft your own funkypops to stick it to porkie.
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▶ No.12103>>12104>>12153
>>12101You don't understand what's going on.
Nintendo is taking down open-source software projects from github. Those programs were created by random other people completely unrelated to Nintendo. It's entirely impossible that Nintendo could have any legal rights with regards to those pieces of software.
They are basically saying the copyright licenses of their games grants them the right to decide that other people's software doesn't have the right to exist.
They are attacking opensource software.
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▶ No.12153>>12154
>>12103>>12104Nintendo is now trying to get emulators kicked off steam
This feels like a medieval king that says "this offends me, get rid of it"
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▶ No.12154>>12155
>>12153>Nintendo is now trying to get emulators kicked off steamBased. Fuck Steam.
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▶ No.12155>>12156
>>12154This is not harming steam tho, because if Nintendo gets away with this crap they'll likely be able to pull this shit on other software distribution platforms as well.
If Nintendo can de-platform enough emulators, that means software preservationists either have to fully embrace the ways of software-"piracy". Or completely change their technical base towards recreating old programs from scratch. That means for example making a special game engine that can mimic the appearance and behavior of older tech. It also means they'll have to recreate the art assets as well. That is probably doable with a reasonable effort considering that ai-tools will speed up the process but it'll become significantly divergent clone-ware and not authentic preservation. Maybe future generations will think that people played Hyper Dario from Eightendo in the software stone-age.
I doubt this cancel-tendo business is even profitable for them, because all those crusading lawyers combing through the internet ain't doing it for free. I think this is born out of spite and vitriol.
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▶ No.12156>>12157>>12168
>>12155>because if Nintendo gets away with this crap they'll likely be able to pull this shit on other software distribution platforms as well.why do you need distribution platforms for emulators lol?
>that means software preservationists either have to fully embrace the ways of software-"piracy"wat
majority of emulators are open source, you only need to "pirate" bios files on some of them
>It also means they'll have to recreate the art assets as well.wat 2x
art assets are just art assets lol, emulator doesn't give a shit if they are "pirated" or not
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▶ No.12157>>12168
>>12156>why do you need distribution platforms for emulators lol?>majority of emulators are open source, you only need to "pirate" bios files on some of themthat's true but for long term preservation it would probably be help-full if it was normie friendly, and you know preservation is easier if the preservers are not being persecuted.
>art assets are just art assets lol, emulator doesn't give a shit if they are "pirated" or notYes but if software preservation shifts from software-emulation to software-recreation old assets won't be compatible anymore.
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▶ No.12168
>>12157>for long term preservation it would probably be help-full if it was normie friendlyNormies just download dolphin.exe from the website.
>>12156>you only need to "pirate" bios files on some of them… and the games. It's not like breaking the encryption on the DVD and making a digital copy is any less illegal than just torrenting someone else's ISO.
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▶ No.12956>>12967
>>12955This story ends with the criminal mafia organisation that calls it self Nintendo stealing $2.4 million crowdfunding money via extortion from Yuzu. The source code for Yuzu was censored. Yuzu was forked a million times beforehand so it's not really gone, but still.
We need better protection for FOSS projects, given the insane level of predatory malice that was put on display here.
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▶ No.12967
>>12955>>12956The project was forked, the new project name is
Suyu, and of course ''somebody"" is already trying to censor the source code from the internet by making " "copyright" " claims against it.
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▶ No.13104>>13114>>13163
>>12098 (OP)Honestly anon, I think it's a fallacy trying to post hoc rationalize piracy. It almost goes against the spirit of being a pirate. You don't need the moral high ground and you don't need any justifications. Just pirate, fuck them. We know they'd kill your grandmother and sell her soul for profit if it was legal, you don't need the extra baggage of trying to be a moral pirate weighing you down on the high seas.
People who try to shame you or cry and attack you can also go fuck themselves, they can't stop you so they have to rely on socializing you into submission. Fuck them too.
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▶ No.13114>>13163
>>13104>We know they'd will kill your grandmother and sell her soul for profit if when it was will be legal profitable enoughbruh like cmon bruh bruh
>>13029Don't bother with legalities, it's all just a wordwrapping around the actual system of privatization. Ninshit Corp. isn't doing
anything out of the ordinary 4 the capitalist system of production relations, stop bothering with it.
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▶ No.13163
>>13104>We know they'd kill your grandmother and sell her soul for profit if it was legal, you don't need the extra baggage of trying to be a moral pirate weighing you down on the high seas.Apparently murder is now legal for corpos, if you buy Disney-streaming you grant them the right to kill you.
Piracy just won the moral question.
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=ikA9KkiTH-c>>13114>We know they will kill your grandmother and sell her soul for profit when it was will be profitable enough>bruh like cmon bruh bruhI kneel, you're a prophet
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▶ No.13184>>13190
Fuck Nintendo, I refuse to buy anything other than consoles from them. And that's only if they can be hacked. It would give me great pleasure if it were still true that hardware is sold at a loss.
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▶ No.13190>>13193
>>13184Sony and Microsoft consoles were game-sales subsidized loss-leaders. But Bigtendo never did that. So you're making them money even if you only buy their console hardware.
I don't know why you would bother doing that, when you can get better bang for the back hardware from the steam-deck type consoles, which usually also come with a normal operating system that isn't crippled.
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>>13190I agree with the steam deck-likes bit, but this was before they existed. I've had a Switch basically since the exploit for their first gen was announced, the Steam Deck only came out years later.
Buying a Switch *now* wouldnt make sense, its been made obsolete by the deck and the rog
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▶ No.13194
>>13193So you got lucky, the early models had the hardware feature that let users have more controle over their device. Later models were changed and no longer have that.
>its been made obsolete by the deckindeed
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▶ No.13476
Nintendo is such shit that super mario bros crashes on the switch:
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▶ No.13477>>13478
Eh, who cares about Nintendo games other than Nintendo fans, right? I just pretend Nintendo isn't real.
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▶ No.13478>>13479
>>13477>who cares about Nintendo games other than Nintendo fansagreed
>I just pretend Nintendo isn't real.they're doing a lot of "lawfare", as in they sue people and organization for made-up BS excuses, just to attack them.
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▶ No.13479
>>13478>they're doing a lot of "lawfare"It doesn't affect me so I stopped caring.