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 No.489297>>489299>>489360

Why does it seem like support for Georgism disappeared suddenly in the middle of the 20th century? George's book Progress and Poverty was one of the most popular books of the 19th century and provided momentum for the Progressive Era. It seems like it kind of dropped off the face of the Earth after WWII. The last reference I can find to Georgism is Aldous Huxley's Brave New World Revisited in 1958, but after that it's like it poofed completely out of existence. Was it the cold war shifting the focus of the capitalist defense force to anti-communism? Was Georgism just a fad, propped up artificially as a bulwark against Marxists? Were Georgists just completely superceded by Marxists by that time? What happened?
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>>489297 (OP)
I know that Georgism exists so it didn't really poof away completely, but admittedly i don't know what it proposes.
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 No.489309

So glad you asked. My guess is that Marxists superceded Georgists by that time, but I'm not entirely certain. The series of Marxist revolutions probably had something to do with that, but I also think that there's an extent to which the comparative complexity of Marxist writing tends to instill more passion in people. George was a great economist, but I don't think that there's a deep Georgist historiography to compare to Marxist historical materialism, and George tended to avoid the kind of prophetic proclamations of Marx, too. Georgism also doesn't offer a definitive solution to wage labor, instead opting for an economics which gives workers the maximum amount of leverage, which is a less appealing answer than just abolishing wage labor entirely whether or not Marx actually offers a reliable way to achieve the latter goal.

There are still Georgists, and George's writing had some influence on a diverse array of 20th century figures (Sun Yat Sen, MLK… William Buckley… among others), but Georgist presence in the labor movement has dwindled, and Georgism and Geolibertarianism are primarily represented by a few academics. Personally, I wish this wasn't the case because I think it's actually a great economic philosophy. I'd do a revolution just to abolish landlords, but most people would want to abolish landlords and capitalists as a precondition for revolution. Georgism is radical enough that it would never get the concessions necessary through electoral politics, but moderate enough compared to socialism (and anarchism) that it's unlikely to inspire revolutionary spirit in the masses. I think that a Georgist America would be great.
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>>489299
The broadest interpretation of Georgism is the 'single tax' on unimproved land value. IE no taxes on labor, no taxes on improvements, no taxes on sales, but taxes on raw land value at high rates to disincentivize land speculation and encourage productive land use. This is the main uniting Georgist idea. This principle includes taxation of natural resource extraction, and has been additionally proposed to include taxing pollution as an externality, and, later, there have been proposals to include taxation of other forms of economic rentseeking like intellectual property.

The second broadest idea is the 'citizens' dividend,' which proposes that the value of land taxation be redistributed to the general public universally. Geolibertarians advocate for a very small state where this system of distributing revenue from land wealth is the primary public service function of the state.

Thirdly, George advocated for the nationalization of natural monopolies.
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 No.489317>>489318>>489327

Georgism basically became the basis for numerous Green Parties, which then got completely subsumed by Shitlibs and either just became woke Neoliberal hawk parties (European Greens) or Shitlib Woke Parties (UK, US, Australian Greens).
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 No.489318>>489323

>>489317
>Georgism basically became the basis for numerous Green Parties
Based on what exactly?
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>>489323
Where does this say that though?
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 No.489327

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>>489317
>Shitlib Woke Parties (US)
Pretty harsh anon.
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 No.489360>>489361

>>489297 (OP)
it died with Nehru
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>>489360
… Elaborate?

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