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 No.489119>>489141>>489847

>be me
>get yelled at by progressives for complaining about forced diversity, DEI, neopronouns, furfags and feminazis
>get yelled at by conservatives for supporting LGBT, Palestinians, migrants and socialist economics
>get yelled at by everyone for being an anarcho-individualist
That's it, I'm done with the Internet.
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 No.489120>>489121

Huh? What does anarcho-individualism entail?
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 No.489121

>>489120
>What does anarcho-individualism entail?
These are, like, mutualists, ancoms and post-leftists who follow some form of individualist philosophy or something. They're anti-egalitarian in a way more similar to Marxists rather than ancaps but all of them are def against class divisions.
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 No.489141>>489146

>>489119 (OP)
>individualist
>supports LGBT (collectivism), Palestinians (collectivism), migrants (collectivism) and socialist economics (collectivism)
You sound very confused.
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 No.489146>>489847>>489863

>>489141
>You sound very confused.
You're either an ML or an illiterate ancap.
>LGBT (collectivism)
>Palestinians (collectivism)
>migrants (collectivism)
Demographics are no more collectivist than biological species are, this is just a classification. A classification often done by collectivists themselves (nationalists, conservatives) to demonize these demographics.
>socialist economics (collectivism)
Capitalism is often more collectivist than socialism is (nationalism, conservatism, wage slavery, ochlocracy, etc.). It's possible to build socialism on individualist principles since the main things socialists object to are class society and (in the case of communists) money.
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 No.489847>>489859

>>489119 (OP)
Political nuance is just arguing about what flavor you want.


Also, stop blaming the Internet for your dilemma.


But otherwise, I sympathize with you.

I've been called a communist on right wing websites and fascist on left wing sites for having the following opinions:

1. Family planning should have mandatory screening and licensing

2. Schools should have mandatory entrance exams and life skill training curriculum


3. College should not be universalised

4. Trades are underappreciated
5. Singlehood is underappreciated

>>489146

>Capitalism is often more collectivist than socialism is (nationalism, conservatism, wage slavery, ochlocracy, etc.). It's possible to build socialism on individualist principles since the main things socialists object to are class society and (in the case of communists) money.


Thid is a valid point.
Self proclaimed leftists often whine far too much about "individualism", thinking that collectivism is some monolithic willpower.
It isn't

The "individualism" that capitalism sells is really just mass-produce.
Many leftists think that the individual isn't important.

But collectivism can only work when individuals are taken care of.
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 No.489859>>489871

>>489847
>1. Family planning should have mandatory screening and licensing
That's eugenics FYI
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 No.489860

The problem with the internet is that everything happens in public, and as such, people are more interested in propagandizing than discussing. Go to ogre if you want to see some particularly nasty cases of it. I've tried starting multiple discussions there, and it pretty much always devolves into "$idea is random_term() random term() you random_term random_term()".

The only solution is to either find a heavily moderated community with rules in place to keep discussion in good faith, or to talk with people in real life. Otherwise, you're going to get nowhere fast.
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 No.489862>>489875

>yelled at for complaining about forced diversity
>yelled at for supporting immigrants
Yeah, because you can't complain about one and then support the other. Under the current system, immigration IS forced diversity, since no one actually voted for it.

>yelled at for complaining about feminazis

>yelled at for supporting LGBT
Yeah, cause they both operate on fear, which is a fascist tactic.

You're just retarded.
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 No.489863>>489875

>>489146
>Capitalism is often more collectivist than socialism is (nationalism
Because socialist nations have never, EVER, engaged in nationalism, EVER.
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 No.489871>>489876

>>489859
Why do people want licensing for everything except for procreation?
Why do people allow incompetent parents to breed?

At this point, "eugenics" is just an indignatory remark.

People have no problem with putting trackers on their kids.

People have no problem with background screening for employment.
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 No.489875

>>489863
>Because socialist nations have never, EVER, engaged in nationalism, EVER.
Well, the leaders of these so-called "socialist nations" would constantly shit on council communists, mutualists and anarcho-communists anyway so… I guess it depends on what we mean by the word "socialism" then.
>>489862
>Under the current system, immigration IS forced diversity
Neither did immigrants vote for their country to be empoverished by imperialism but whatever. I don't have a definitive stance on immigration (anti-immigration is peak reformism anyway) and I do understand the grievances of white workers but, like, immigrants are people too. I don't think treating them like literal savages is coolio. I think we should try to build bridges instead and attack the core cause of illegal immigration instead of attacking immigrants themselves.
>Yeah, cause they both operate on fear, which is a fascist tactic.
I'm not scared of LGBT, I just think hating queers is silly, counterproductive and irrational. When it comes to feminazis then sure but LGBT isn't even an ideology, the same way "leftism" isn't. Or are you implying that your ideas are the same as those of radlibs, ancoms and Strasserites?
>You're just retarded.
Not an argument, you're retarded for saying this. Only retards throw insults when they have nothing to add.
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 No.489876

>>489871
>Why do people allow incompetent parents to breed?
Conservative propaganda. They think more children = good and less children = bad.
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 No.489879>>489892

>anarcho-individualist
Oh you're retarded
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>>489879
>Oh you're retarded
The picrel is you.

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