/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>489741 (OP)
Except, in practice, the only people who are clearly petit bourgeoisie are people who invest capital into others' labor, or, at the very least, into land. This includes a lot of artisans, but not all artisans by any means. Most of the people who can easily be defined as small business owners are people who employ other people. The idea that anyone who owns a paint brush and sells works of arts is clearly discernible as petit bourgeoisie actually immediately runs into a major problem when you consider that Marx includes "tinkers," "literati," and "organ grinders" as lumpen proles, and these are groups whose relationship with their own labor is similar to that of freelance artists. Where with an owner of a small shop we can actually draw a hard line, with an owner of a paintbrush or a street organ there is no actual inherent discernible separation based purely on the ownership of those specific pieces of personal property. A freelance artist who does not invest in others labor is not discernible as a "small business owner," and demanding some kind of imagined purity on this is the kind of useless "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?" silliness that Marxism really doesn't need more of.

>>489742
>This includes a lot of artisans, but not all artisans by any means.
I said "independent artists."
>freelance artists
Define "freelance" because this word is a bourgeois class collaborationist doublespeak.

>>489743
>I said "independent artists."
If you're talking about solo work then no. I don't think that is generally something anyone can strictly define, across the board, as small business ownership.
>Define "freelance" because this word is a bourgeois class collaborationist doublespeak.
"1. a person who pursues a profession without a long-term commitment to any one employer
2. a person who acts independently without being affiliated with or authorized by an organization"

per Merriam-Webster.

>>489744
>1. a person who pursues a profession without a long-term commitment to any one employer
That's a freelancing proletarian.
>2. a person who acts independently without being affiliated with or authorized by an organization
That's still a bourgeois doublespeak that includes both proles and petty bougies.

>>489744
Regardless, this is off-topic. I just wanted to know how literate and/or petite bourgeois the online left is.

>>489742
You know, you could've actually responded to me by saying that many independent artists do not rely on art as their primary source of income. Which is a solid argument. But I'm talking more about those who can sustain themselves purely through donations and commissions. Ofc many people who can do that also start hiring employees (like famous YouTubers) and opening their own businesses. But they don't have to.

Also, it seems like online leftists are afraid of classifying anyone whom they support as petite bourgeois as if petite bourgeoisie are this evil incarnate. But why? Petite bourgeoisie, like lumpens, have ambiguous class interests and can side with anyone really.

Reminder that small businesses compared to corporate employers actually tend to pay worse wages, have worse benefits, and skirt a lot of workplace safety requirements that only kick in when you have a minimum number of employees.