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Since June 2024, we have been building a communist encyclopedia, Revolupedia, to provide easily-understood explanations to Marxist theory and allow for further study.

Overtime, our project and community has expanded to maintain hundreds of articles, a library of texts from Marxist thinkers, and detailed quotations.

We welcome all communists to join our effort to build a revolutionary compendium, whether anti-revisionist Marxist–Leninist or Maoist!

https://revolupedia.net
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Since June 2024? I seem to remember anons starting a wiki much longer ago than that. Was there already some kind of split?

Nobody has ever answered my original critique of this idea sadly: How will you prevent your wiki from succumbing to the same fundamental dysfunction that made Wikipedia or any other political wiki a vessel for lies and propaganda?
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>>490299

You must be thinking of Leftypedia. Since 2024, that project has essentially been defunct, with some of the editors from there going to found Revolupedia.
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>>490300
What's wrong with prolewiki?
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>>490301

It is completely dysfunctional and revisionist. Revolupedia has a solid ideological line.
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>there's three lefty wikis now
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>>490304
well the "original" wikipedia is consolidated but if you go look at the change-log of certain articles, you can find some that had 600 changes in a week, resulting from an editor-war that involved 2 people reverting the article back and forth between 2 slightly different versions. Not sure if that's better.

Maybe an ideology selector tab could solve the lefty fracturing problem.
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>>490301
It's the /r/communism wiki, ie a fed op to divide the left.
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>>490303
>Revolupedia has a solid ideological line.
uygha you people call China and Russia "totalitarian fascist imperialists".
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>>490313
OP is this true?
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>>490313
Xhe's right though
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>>490313
so does that mean the "designated enemy" shills have infiltrated it ?
>>490315
yeah would somebody go check please
>>490317
good grief is that a typo ? How do you even pronounce that name ?
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>>490315
>>490319
>Corporatocratic republic under a totalitarian fascist dictatorship
https://revolupedia.net/wiki/index.php?title=People%27s_Republic_of_China

>Federal semi-presidential republic under a fascist dictatorship

https://revolupedia.net/wiki/index.php?title=Russian_Federation
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>>490320
truth nuke
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>>490320
oh, that is unfortunate.
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>>490313

So? That means we consistently oppose *all* imperialists and fascists, unlike many revisionists.
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>>490323
Look up the pamphlet "Soviet Millionaires" by Reg Bishop it was published by the CPGB in 1945 using official Soviet sources. includes Stalin quotes praising the millionaires. i believe they name one of them, a collective farm boss who got rich on the Soviet produce market. the full pamphlet is online on a couple sites. Reg Bishop wrote another one in 1946 about wages and prices in USSR where he talks about profit-sharing and directors funds under Stalin.

Turn to your true calling, become a Trotskyist
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>>490323
Ok I'm assuming you are arguing in good faith, and that you think you are only being consistent within your worldview.

However there is the neo-con conundrum.

If you criticize one of the designated enemies in the "neo-con hall of threats" they somehow become immune to any criticism you make against them and you also have agreed with their agenda. Even-though that was not your intention. No matter how much you protest, you get counted as consenting to their wretched warmonger causes.

Your strategy might even have been to undermine neocon political capital by equating them with their designated enemies. The neocons have figured out to hack this strategy and gain political energy from you if you do.

The neocons are very basic imperialists at heart. They operated on the economic circuit of investing into means of military domination that gets a return on investment every-time they manage too loot another country, by toppling governments or bombing countries to rubble. (Tangent: They are increasingly failing in their efforts to do so and every-time they invest into means of military domination, they cannibalize the "western host". Imperialism is causing losses )

They seek to imperialize the world, and they figured out a trick to convert every criticism you have of countries in their crosshairs into a virtue matrix that justifies what they are doing as a holy crusade to bring morality to the heathens. (Except they have updated the rhetoric). Take for example Afghanistan before the 20 year neocon forever-war (they labeled "war on terror") , that was ruled by the Taliban and you could probably make a reasonable criticism that it wasn't democratic, and then the neocon hijacked this for their war mongering: By pretending to bring freedom and democracy to Afghanistan. We all know how that story turned out. Trillions of dollars set on fire, millions dead, and the Taliban still rule Afghanistan.

I don't know how to "break the spell".
Maybe accusing the neocons as the threat might work. Like that drone-container attack on Russia's nuclear triad, that threatened our security by destabilizing the nuclear weapons balance.
Maybe blaming the neocons for all the faults in Russian, Chinese, Iranian,… societies could work. For example Iran lacks religous freedoms, and the neocons can be blamed for that because they overthrew Mossadegh which was the last secular leader Iran had. And then somehow spin that as the neocons being the threat.
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>>490320
>China, officially the People's Republic of China (PRC),[a] is a fascist and social-imperialist state located in East Asia.

OP delete your retarded website right now.
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>>490330

Of course, random person on the internet! And with that, I will stop political activism entirely and live in a cave because you called us a mean word!

Thank you for your constructive criticism.
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>>490305
>ideology selector tab
what is that? and how would that look like?
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>>490528
Interesting idea actually. Knowledge bases have a propensity to suffer from the 'I'm the embodiment of truth' syndrome.

Without the assertion of 'Tha Truth' a opinionpedia can form. Let ideological currents be renamed to thought-collectives. And every such thought-collective can curate it's opinionated version of the pedia. If an article has several entries by multiple thought-collectives the reader can switch between them or access a diff-view that highlights opinion differences/agreements.

Not as a philosophical stance, objective reality exists after-all, but as a rejection of arbiters of truth. Because arbitration powers rarely coincides with an interest in objective reality.

quelling 2 problems: the splitting and the game of thrones for narratives.

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