/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>488425
>that his has been a coalition war with extensive American involvement from the very beginning.
Haven't watched, specifics?

>>488427
Americans have had extensive involvement in targeting, military tactics, etc. Every time Ukraine did a missile strike on Crimea or further inside Russian territory, the US did all the work targeting those missiles. That attack in civilians on the beach in Sevastopol? American targeting. The Ukrainian offense in Kherson? American planning. Basically this confirms what Russia has been saying this whole time: that the Biden administration was directly engaging in war against Russia and playing with world war 3. The New York Times actually brags about this bullshit, a wonderful partnership built between the US and Ukraine. There's no suggestion from the Times at all that this may have been an extremely dangerous mistake. In fact one might wonder if an article like this was published to further reinforce to the Russians that they cannot ever trust the Americans again, to poison any attempt at normalizing relations.

>>488432
Eh, didn't we already know most of that stuff? I was thinking it would say the special ops presence was larger than previously acknowledged or something or that Americans were deployed in combat directly.

>>488433
Anyone paying attention to independent media did, the point is the Paper of Record™ finally admitted it. It can no longer be dismissed as Russian Propaganda™.

>>488425
>listen to the Duran boys break it down.
The other aspect they talk about is the blame game.
So apparently the article is trying to pawn off all the blame to Ukrainians. So there will be no learning from mistakes.

They end on a dark note, namely that the ruling class in the US and EU likely think that the Russians are somehow inferior and that translates to them trying this all over again some time in the future.

>>488432
>this whole time: that the Biden administration was directly engaging in war against Russia and playing with world war 3
Yeah we got lucky the current leadership in Russia turned out to be so chill. Missiles flying towards Moscow and exploding pipelines that would have caused the shit hitting the fan during the cold war.

North Korea confirms sending troops to Russia
Moscow has praised Pyongyang for helping liberate Kursk Region from the Ukrainian incursion

North Korea has confirmed it sent troops to Russia in support of an operation to repel a Ukrainian incursion. The statement was released days after Moscow acknowledged the role of North Korean troops in the liberation of Kursk Region.

In a report to Russian President Vladimir Putin last week, Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov praised the contribution made by North Korean servicemen in helping to liberate the Kursk Region from Ukrainian forces.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un personally ordered his country’s military to fight alongside Russian forces “to annihilate Ukrainian neo-Nazi occupiers and liberate the Kursk region,” the country's state media reported on Monday.

“The operations for liberating the Kursk area to repel the adventurous invasion of the Russian Federation by the Ukrainian authorities were victoriously concluded,” Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) reported, citing an official statement by the country’s Central Military Commission.

North Korean troops were deployed on Russian soil under the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement between Moscow and Pyongyang, which came into force last December. The treaty provides for mutual military assistance in the event of an attack, pledging immediate support “by all means available” under Article 51 of the UN Charter.

Ukraine launched its incursion into Kursk Region last August, deploying some of its best units, equipped with Western-supplied weapons, and initially gaining some ground and capturing numerous settlements before their advance was stopped by Russian forces.

The Central Military Commission said that the evolving military situation had triggered Article 4 of the treaty with Moscow. Based on this analysis, Kim Jong-un personally decided to deploy North Korean troops to Russia and notified the Kremlin.

Pyongyang emphasized that its military activities in Russia were fully consistent with the UN Charter and international law, portraying the deployment as a model of faithful implementation of the mutual defense treaty with Moscow.

Kiev and its Western backers had long alleged that North Korean troops were involved in the conflict. Prior to Saturday, Pyongyang and Moscow neither confirmed nor denied the rumors, while the Russian president had previously said it was up to the two nations to determine how they fulfill their obligations under the partnership pact.

https://archive.is/REmvl
https://www.rt.com/news/616406-north-korea-russia-kursk/

>>489097
I don't really know what to make of this. Scott Ritter said this was stupid because the idea of incorporating foreign troops who don't even speak Russian in a major military operation was tactically a very bad idea. Is he going to eat his hat now?

>>489097
So it did happen? What the hell am I supposed to believe anymore..

>>489102
>So it did happen?
The mainstream media said North Korean Soldiers were fighting in Ukraine, Kursk however is in Russia. They showed dead bodies without faces and proclaimed it to be fallen Korean soldiers in Ukraine. They proclaimed that the Russians had to do this because they were running out of soldiers. So no, what they claimed, still didn't happen.

>What the hell am I supposed to believe anymore..
The Russians said the North Korean soldiers were participating in training exercises within Russia.
That's closer to the truth, at least their narrative placed the North Korean soldiers within the correct country.

>>489098
>I don't really know what to make of this. Scott Ritter said this was stupid because the idea of incorporating foreign troops who don't even speak Russian in a major military operation was tactically a very bad idea. Is he going to eat his hat now?
Ritter isn't wrong in principle. The Russians might have done this for non-tactical reasons. This is a, admittedly very hardcore, method to make 2 armies figure out how to cooperate.

Is Preston Stewart reputable? I haven't followed this closely enough to know.
https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/1917697564943536212
Here he says: "North Korean soldiers were shooting down every drone they saw, Ukrainian and Russian. According to Russian milbloggers, it got so bad, Russian drone pilots had to create alternate flight paths to the front to avoid flying by any DPRK units."

Is he reputable, and, if so, what Russian milbloggers are the sources for this?

>>489252
Friendly fire downing a few drones is plausible.
Bloggers knowing details about flight paths, not so much.

Maybe a few drones were shot down by accident and the rest was made up story embellishments.

>>489276
What bloggers though?

>>489280
>What bloggers though?
see >>489252
<According to Russian milbloggers

Don't ask me what the difference is between a "milblogger" and a regular blogger. "mil" usually is the prefix for thousand. Maybe it's supposed to be a shortened form of "military blogger".

This Victory Day circus is really interesting. Half of Europe tries to intimidate and block Robert Fico of Slovakia from visiting Russia for the celebration while the Z-man is literally threatening to attack world leaders in Moscow. Since Jinping is going to be there, could the latter be some kind of attempt to initiate America's long-desired war with China?

>>489397
>This Victory Day circus is really interesting.
That's one way of putting it.

>Half of Europe tries to intimidate and block Robert Fico of Slovakia from visiting Russia for the celebration
<If you go to Jenifer's birthday party, I'm un-inviting you from my birthday party.

>the Z-man is literally threatening to attack world leaders in Moscow
He already back-paddled.

>Since Jinping is going to be there, could the latter be some kind of attempt to initiate America's long-desired war with China?
Not likely, they'd fall for such bait. The SBU (ukranian spook agency) would be fucked tho.

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1921530091885978037/
Macron, Starmer, and Scholz seen hiding coke.

>>489471
At first I thought it was a joke, but it actually did look a little like they were doing cocaine

Makes you wonder…
the hippies smoked weed and they want peace and love
Does cocaine make people want war ?

>>489515
There've been updates since and the 'baggy'-looking thing was actually a napkin.

>>489516
So they smoked the napkin ?
Sorry i couldn't resist.

Anyway maybe it says something that everybody found it plausible that these people were on drugs.

I'm more inclined to believe the Z-Man is doing coke and other drugs all the time. You know the first thing that guy does every day when he gets up is takes some amphetamines.

>>489538
TheLensky doing speed ? Yeah that's quite possible.

So a bunch of trucks with tricked-out containers were driven into Russia, where they launched a drone attack on Russian military airports. They damaged a few planes. They also killed a bunch of civilians that crossed a bridge while it was being attacked.

It kinda reminds me of the beeper terror attack that was carried out by the mossad terror organization where they blew up children in Lebanon. It's similar in the sense that it represents weaponizing a part of the civilian supply chain. A weapon disguised as civilian cargo trucks or a weapon disguised as an electronic gadget.

This has been attributed to Ukraine, but there are strong suspicions the US was behind it. Since many of the planes that were targeted was part of Russias nuclear triad, it looked like attempt of destabilizing the balance of terror from nuclear weapons, and could be interpreted as a preamble to a full scale nuclear war. (whether nuclear bombers are still relevant as part of a strategic deterrent is questionable given the advances in air defenses, but I'll put that aspect to the side)

Obviously if the US did this, they didn't seem to have considered that Russia could apply the same tactic to attack US warplanes. Many are stationed on the 800+ US military bases around the world. Arguably those are even more vulnerable.

It seems very reckless while at the same time not really changing the dynamic of the Ukraine war.

The Russians seam to have ditched tit-for-tat game-theory logic for rational outcome-maximization logic some time ago. So it's unclear whether they will retaliate, it might take a while, because R.O.M. suggests delaying retaliations until it can be aligned with the desired outcome.

There also is the question whether the planes that were struck weren't just decoys made from decommissioned planes, since those planes were stationed outside of protective hangars in order to allow for cold-war arms-controle via satellite. Since most of the cold war arms controle treaties were dissolved by the US, this could make some sense.

Many people think this was done in order to bootstrap WW3. I sometimes wonder whether the nuclear-war-crazies are actually the same species as us, because from an evolutionary perspective a desire to eradicate your own species seems rather implausible.

It could all be a nothing burger since many of these planes were old, as in upgraded versions of stuff that was originally designed in the 60s and not really all that relevant in contemporary warfare. The Russians would obviously still be mad about the dead civilians.

I think the lasting legacy of this might be, paranoia about cargo containers.

>>489851
One of the points Alexander Mercouris made on this yesterday is that the planes had dual-purpose use: they were conventional bombers as well as strategic bombers. So it wasn't purely an attempt to attack Russian nuclear retaliation infrastructure. There's a lot of American bias in the press reporting on this in the sense that aircraft form a major component of American strategic nuclear forces, but this is not at all true of Russia. If the focus was purely on Russian nuclear deterrence they would go after ICBMs or submarines fleet.

>>489856
Yeah I'm not entirely convinced the Russians see it as oh it's just the least important pillar of our nuclear triad getting attacked, that's fine

I'll give you the point about the motivation, the target could have been the conventional bomber aspect. But the Russians can't know that for sure.

>>489865
Oh I think we can be sure about the motivation: this was just another means to sabotage peace talks and keep the war going as long as possible. The Ukrainians have no hope of winning this war and this changes nothing on the battlefield. If the US wasn't involved in these attacks this time then we can at least be sure intelligence from some other NATO country had a hand in a desperate attempt to saving the failing political career of some European ruler.

>>489867
>Oh I think we can be sure about the motivation: this was just another means to sabotage peace talks and keep the war going as long as possible.
There was talk this attack took 18 months planning, if that's true, the timing would have been difficult. But you are not wrong, it did interfere with the peace talks.

I still don't really get the rational for prolonging this war. Well, obviously there are the war-profiteers that want to keep the gravy train rolling, but that doesn't explain the hysterical behavior of the "Russia-warriors".

They said provoking this war would weaken Russia economically and militarily as well as fracture it politically , but that doesn't appear to be the case at all. The result seems to be that both Europe and the US have been weakened economically and militarily instead, and Europe seems to have suffered political fractures. And it also caused diplomatic isolation of the west because most of the world did not participate in the sanctions war against Russia. The longer this war drags on, the worse it will become.

>a desperate attempt to saving the failing political career of some European ruler.
So all this shit, because of careerism ? Bruh if that's true, that's fucked up.
Also is it actually working ? There doesn't seem to be much public support for this war, despite the high intensity warmongering in the media. If I was a politician i wouldn't double down on this, i would try to get out of the war and then memory-hole it as quickly as possible.

>The Ukrainians have no hope of winning this war and this changes nothing on the battlefield.
I think that was clear from the beginning, they never intended Ukraine to win, Ukraine's purpose was supplying cannon-fodder. Guys, guys Ukropia can totally win against a super-power was always just intended as a deception.

>If the US wasn't involved in these attacks this time then we can at least be sure intelligence from some other NATO country
Agreed. Obviously the question who done it is important, but I wonder if this won't get copied by others, and then burning question becomes who's doing it currently.

Another incredible scoop by Kit Klarenberg, revealing secret Britain plans to blow up the Kerch Bridge, entrap Russian officers in sexual blackmail, and train Ukrainians to plant limpet mines to sink Russian ships:

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/06/11/uk-plans-russian-black-fleet/

Chechnya leader Kadyrov: "Feeling emboldened by their impunity in the genocide of the Palestinian people, the Zionists have now decided to provoke Iran and create yet another hotspot on the world map.

For decades, we have heard Zionists and Western Satanists spreading disinformation that Iran is on the verge of developing nuclear weapons.

Thirty years ago, it was “any day now” and “on the threshold,” twenty years ago it was “any day now,” ten years ago—still “any day now.” So where is it? Probably in the same place as Iraq’s nuclear weapons.

On the pretext of the supposed existence of nuclear weapons, they flattened all of Iraq, killed Saddam Hussein, slaughtered hundreds of thousands of civilians, and pushed the country back by decades—and now they plan to do the same to Iran.

I believe the reaction of the Iranian military is entirely logical and a tactically sound decision. Iran has not refused international inspections and openly declares that it is working on enriching peaceful nuclear fuel.

But the Satanists are not satisfied even with the fact that Iran, under sanctions for over 40 years, has its own independent energy program.

After years of provocations and Zionist terrorist operations targeting Iranian military personnel and scientists, the Iranian authorities were left with no choice but to respond to Israel’s Satanic aggression—a country that dreams of turning the entire Middle East into a lifeless desert.

The international community must now raise a far more important global question:

How many nuclear warheads does Israel have, and why should its military nuclear program cause less concern than Iran’s peaceful one?"

Alexander Mercouris thinks that the current Goverment in Ukraine will sooner or later go into exile and form a pretend-Government in some western country. They will then demand funding and will try to join Nato as performance art. And their sole purpose will be yelling: "we da true true goberment of ukropistan"

Is he right ? Will the Zelensky reality show continue ?

>>490327
The Z-man is already transitioning from green combat fatigues to half-suits. He's trying desperately to become a respectable politician so his western handlers will decide to keep him around.

>>490328
oh dear, it's true, then.

Can this be avoided ? imagine how annoying this guy will become after a decade or more. The international embarrassment of it all.

Okay, what's this all about?

>>490337
virtue signaling with guns and bombs

>>490340
I'm thinking more like it's an attempt to force Australia into a geopolitical position it can't back out of, by getting Australians killed by Russian soldiers. Russia has said repeatedly now that it considers foreign soldiers in Ukraine to be legitimate targets.

>>490337
The butchers are running out of sacrificial Ukrainian meat, and are now trying to expand their meat collection operation into western countries. They can't do a draft because that would change the political landscape in the west in such a way that they get executed for treason. So they try to ease their way into normalizing the slaughter with small batches.

>>490341
You think it's a political trip-wire force ?
I doubt it will work.

>Russia has said repeatedly now that it considers foreign soldiers in Ukraine to be legitimate targets.
You are putting it mildly, the Russians treat soldiers from nato countries as priority targets, to be hunted and destroyed with maximum prejudice. It's a nope you're not sticking the nato flag on this hill type of sentiment.

>it's an attempt to force Australia into a geopolitical position it can't back out of, by getting Australians killed
So you think the neocons are trying to exploit the sunken cost fallacy ? And the sunken cost are 100 Aussies ?
Lets ignore the savageness of this calculation for a moment. Idk, the body bags that get send back post haste, have a political dissuasion effect also.

these rich western people do hate russians intensly, they would even support literal nazis for it. or maybe they themselves are nazis.

Is this stupid fucking war finally going to come to an end soon? Every time hear someone hyping up the next big Russian advance it seems like I get blueballed.

Looks like the Z-man's time is finally coming to a close. There's Maidan-style protests (likely with Maidan-style CIA support) outside the Z-man's office in Kiev against his attempts to take over an independent weapons procurement oversight agency. Some mainstream news sources on the protests:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/young-ukrainians-find-new-voice-wartime-protests-2025-07-24/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/22/protesters-in-ukraine-denounce-law-curbing-anticorruption-agencies

It seems like the CIA has gotten the word out to its mouthpieces because all the standard NATO propaganda rags seem to be turning on Zelensky and writing negative pieces about him at once now.

>>490675
What's the deal with the agencies?

>>490675
The Duran boys did a good piece on this yesterday. Apparently these two "oversight" agencies were set up by none of than Joe Biden after the Maidan coup. It's seems more like they were tools to control the presidency rather than anything legitimately stopping corruption.

I still don't understand how Russia plans to resolve this little Nazi problem when the war is over.

>>490818
Did Russia even really resolve its own Nazi problem?
Ukraine would be a bitch to hold onto in any case after all this.

>>490821
As John Mearsheimer says frequently, it would be like swallowing a porcupine for Russia. It's in Russia's interest to create a dysfunctional rump state out of what's left of Ukraine. The question is still how they plan to address the Nazi problem without taking direct control.

Trump is meeting Putin in Alaska on August 15:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/8/trump-announces-august-15-meet-up-with-putin-in-alaska-warns-of-land-swap

https://x.com/iwasnevrhere_/status/1953986952560070898
🇦🇲 🇷🇺 Armenia set plans to withdraw from CSTO by early 2026. US has secretly promised NATO membership to Armenia and Azerbaijan in recent meeting in White House. NATO access to Caspian sea will be facilitated by Zangezur corridor.

(The CSTO is Russian founded military alliance in Eurasia consisting of six post-Soviet states: Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Tajikistan.)

This is NATO staging a silent coup in the Caucasus, collapsing the CSTO’s flank and prying open Zangezur as a supply artery straight to the Caspian. It’s an Anglo-Atlantic push to sever Russia and Iran’s shared frontier depth, plant NATO flags on both banks, and pre-position the Caspian rim for encirclement without firing a shot.

Can't believe Putin is going to meet on US territory. I think that puts him in serious danger of being assassinated by a spook agency.

>>490882
Why? Nothing happens.

>>490882
Brian Berletic seems to share my worries here.