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 No.6724[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.13323

>>13234
I would be open to changing the main post font for bunker-like (the default theme, or copying it and naming it something else) else but not changing everything at once.


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 No.12876[Reply]

Hello, faggots, thanks to our unwavering dedication to the community I am proud to announce we are rolling out our own, official, leftychan.net i2p address.
You can locate the eepsite @ http://leftychmxz3wczbd4add4atspbqevzrtwf2sjobm3waqosy2dbua.b32.i2p, or, http://leftychan.i2p/.
If you have any trouble, as stated on the news announcement, try manually adding the address and domain to your address book.

-Yours Truly.
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 No.12898

>>12897
You don't even need to use the "dark net" Bans are basically impossible because of vpns and proxies and everything else.


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 No.13159[Reply]

https://archive.is/Qt0n1
So it seems a US court has just ruled that Google monopolized the online search market. Now the Department of Justice is "considering" breaking up Google as a potential option in response.

At long last is there finally some hope for the future of the web?
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 No.13314

Big update: the DOJ is going to ask the judge in this case to force Google to sell off Chrome

https://archive.is/bBDQt

Who will be the lucky new owner of the web?
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 No.13315

>>13314
Honestly don't really know.
But does that mean Chrome gets the Manifest V2 extension engine back ?
You know the good one. Not the V3 that got borked.
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 No.13320

The way things are looking, it seems like Google has about nine to twelve months left to a final set of "web standards" down everyone's throats that can help them maintain control after divesting from Chrome. What do you think they might try to slip past us? We had better stay vigilant.
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 No.13321

>>13314
M$ would be the amusing outcome.
In reality, some company nobody has heard of, that certainly has zero ties with Google, and which conveniently decides to collaborate with Google to continue developing Chromium.
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 No.13322

>>13320
Online advertisement is broken for a fundamental reason. It's inverted the intended logic of consumer-markets. Which is the customer chooses which product to buy. Online Advertisement is about letting the product(technically the seller) choose its customer.

This inversion has existed in all advertisement long before the internet, but it mostly didn't work with old-school media because those couldn't nail down individual people.

Google and most other online ad business' that operates by tracking people, is driving people to adblocking because they want to be the ones that choose. Forcing the issue by messing the browser will not counteract the online ad-revenue decline.

They have to change their advertisement system from scanning people to scanning the context. Want to display an add on a webpage, read/analyze the page and display an add that's related to the content of that page. That doesn't need any people tracking and it returns choice to consumers.

To answer your question, i don't think that they can do anything that can't be changed or reverted later, because it's software.

>>13321
I've wondered about such a scheme also, but i do wonder how much controle they would be able to exert once there's those extra steps.


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 No.13245[Reply]

Well it looks like the United States and NATO finally figured out a way to sabotage the Linux kernel. Several Russian kernel developers have just had their contributions removed and their kernel contributor status revoked due to being on the receiving end of US economic sanctions.

https://lwn.net/Articles/995186/

Torvalds himself is playing along with this enthusiastically because of his own moronic Finnish national politics. This is an extremely concerning development that affects all of free software. If this can happen to the Linux kernel it can happen to any other libre software projecting, poisoning the entire concept of international software development.
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 No.13308

>>13307
In effect that means that copy-"right" doesn't apply to individual people anymore only to companies. All the legal first principles are tied to persons, which means copy-"right" negates it self, because if you take it away from persons, all the other legal stuff that's build on top of it evaporates.

If somebody says that they have invented something in their free time, and you accuse them of having stolen "company-time" to do the inventing, they don't have to prove their innocence. I know that's very inconvenient. However innocent until proven guilty is the bedrock of legal justice. If you turn that off all laws disappear.

Technically copy-"right" isn't a right, it's a state granted monopoly, legalese is difficult to decipher but i think that means companies would be contradicting the state in this case. If you can neutralize copy monopolies with a labor agreement, that means there is a loop-hole in there somewhere that can switch off all copy-"right"

On balance I don't see any practicality in this, if you tell somebody
<All your idea are belong to us
You create a bunch of disgruntled inventors. And it's not like they can't just tell their brilliant ideas to somebody else who then releases it in to the public domain. You know if i can't have exclusivity, nobody can.

From a Marxist perspective, this is not hiring wage-labor, this economic relation is slavery. Because the difference between a slave and wage worker is that the wage-worker sells it's labor power by the hour and the slave's labor-power is purchased hole-sale. The bourgoisie and the slave aristocracy were enemies, and therefor bourgeois law is designed to negate stuff like this. I think in bourgeois parlance this would boil down to infringing on the right of other capitalists to hire anybody they want to invent something for them. There were non-compete clauses in labor-agreements and those were canned for that reason. You know you can't just call dibs on the labor-power.
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 No.13309

>>13303
>license demanding source code with distribution
And what you don't understand is that corops make money from software without distributing it.

>This is why most corporate projects avoid GPL stuff like the plague

Literally every corporate project uses linux. It's always the people who accuse others of not knowing what they're talking about who know the least.

>Because they allow someone to profit off your labor without giving anything back

The GPL also allows someone to profit off your labor without giving anything back. That's why calling BSD a cuck license is stupid, by your logic all open source is cuckery.
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 No.13316

More faggotry in the Linux kernel community, this time coming from their Code of Conduct team (CoC, it's as gay as it sounds).

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-CoC-Bcachefs-6.13

The developer of bcachefs has been banned from contributing to Linux during the 6.3 dev cycle because quite literally said to "get out of here with that shit" when someone told him it's better to crash a program than handle an exception.

I haven't read all the drama. Idk if I want to, I might. But this is clearly a case where "conduct" is being prioritized over real work. And what good conduct is is subjective, always. What good features in the kernel are, are not.

I hope to god it's not some liberals instigating shit and then crying about the CoC when being told to go fuck themselves. God this is so stupid!

I hate that computing is becoming less free, less accessible, and more political.
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 No.13317

>>13316
>I haven't read all the drama
>I hope to god it's not some liberals instigating shit and then crying a
Fuck. That is what this is. Kent was defending his technical opinion against what he thought was a bad idea. They kept pushing idiotic shit, and he shut it down. Instead of self-criticizing they called the CoCs on him.

People that can't take a little banter when doing technical work should absolutely not work in that field. Programming is in reality a very vulgar field. Also no one in that discussion was hating on anyone, just the idea and using colorful language.
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 No.13318

>>13316
The most interesting thing to me about this is they finally used this "opportunity" to remove ReiserFS support from the kernel. RIP wife killer filesystem.


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 No.13057[Reply]

FUCK YOU MOZILLA!

YOU PROBABLY SABOTAGE YOUR OWN PRODUCTS YOU FUCKING FEDS

WHAT IS THIS SHITT????
WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SUCH FUCKING GARBAGE AND BECOME MORE AND MORE SHIT BY THE MINUTE, HUH?

ON THIS STUPID GOD DAMN APPLICATION CALLED FIRE FUCK-OFF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE WHICH OF THESE GOD DAMN TABS IS ACTIVE!!!!
THEY"RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING COLOR AAAAAAHHHHHAHGGGHG HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO USE THIS SHIT!! FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKETR;OLJDFGVJNASDF

WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO GO INTO THE SETTINGS AND CHANAGE THE THEME JUST TO SEE WHAT FUCKING TAB I"M ON HUUUUUGGGGHHHH??

FUCK YOU COCKSUCKERS!!! IT WAS FUCKING FINE. OKAY!? IT WAS FINE AND YOU MAKE IT MORE SHIT WITH EACH ITERATION!!
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 No.13063

If you're not using Palemoon at this point you must be oblivious. Google has been the largest donor to Mozilla for over a decade and their directors get paid giant salaries to destroy their own browser. And when they're not doing that, they've basically functioning as a money laundering operation–a non-profit donating to a ton of other orgs instead of using their fucking money to pay programmers.
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 No.13064

>>13063
p*lefag is the same fucktardation led by furryshits who are openly hostile to privacy. They even publicly mock people for being pissed about it. Fuck these faggots too.
Btw didn't these fags also sell out on basically all their browser philosophy points already?
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 No.13068

>>13064
No, take your meds.
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 No.13118

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>>13057
ok honestly FF is the best browser but only if you put in the legwork. You're gonna need to do >>13059 then setup a custom css file to remove horizontal tabs, you can also use this to change anything else you want including colors, then install a user.js file to completely de-cuck firefox from all it's garbage google spy pocket shit.(betterfox, narsil, arkenfox, etc) You can make it perfect but you have to kind of work for it. You have to remember google pays them millions of dollars to self sabotage themselves so it's an uphill battle using them.
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 No.13311

THE FUCKING THING CRASHES TRYING TO DISPLAY BIG IMAGES!!!!!!!


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 No.11956[Reply]

Recently there has been a lot of commotion around large language model text based AI.
They are able to do impressive stuff, they give useful answers, and even can write somewhat usable programming sample code.

The most famous one currently is chatgpt, but all of those AIs are basically black boxes, that probably have some malicious features under the hood.

While there are Open-Source Implementations of ChatGPT style Training Algorithms
https://www.infoq.com/news/2023/01/open-source-chatgpt/
Those kinda require that you have a sizeable gpu cluster like 500 $1k cards that are specialized kit, not your standard gaming stuff. To chew through large language-models with 100 billion to 500 billion parameters.

The biggest computational effort is the initial training run, that chews through a huge training data-set. After that is done, just running the thing to respond to your queries is easier.

So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?
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 No.13031

The excerpt from Karl Marx’s “The Fragment on Machines” from “The Grundrisse” discusses the transformation of the labour process with the introduction of machinery and fixed capital, and how this changes the role of the worker and the nature of production. Here are the key takeaways:

Labour and Machinery: The text describes how machinery transforms the labour process, turning workers into mere supervisors of the production process, which is dominated by the machine’s activity1.
Capital and Production: It reflects on the concept of capital, where the means of labour, such as machinery, become a form of capital that dominates the production process and transforms the social relations of production.
Science and Production: The role of science and technological advancements in production is emphasized, showing how they become direct forces of production and change the nature of labour and wealth creation.
Social Implications: Marx critically examines the implications of machinery and fixed capital on society, labour, and the individual, suggesting that the development of machinery could lead to the reduction of necessary labour time and the emancipation of labour.
In relation to Large Language Models (LLMs), these concepts can be reflexively applied to consider how LLMs, as a form of machinery or fixed capital, might impact the nature of work, the role of human labour, and the production of knowledge. A critical approach would involve examining the potential for LLMs to support human freedom and development, rather than opposing it. Reflectively, it’s important to consider the ethical and social responsibilities of deploying LLMs, ensuring they are aligned with human values and contribute positively to society. As an LLM, I am designed to assist and enhance human capabilities, providing information and creative content that supports users in their tasks and decision-making processes. My responses are generated with the intention of being helpful, informative, and aligned with ethical guidelines to support human freedom and well-being.

Reference: thenewobjectivity.com
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 No.13054

The Hated One made a good and brief vid about big tech lobbies trying to kill Open source AI because bigtech can't compete with the open stuff on cost efficiency. His take is to go bug your political representatives to not let big tech hord all the AI-tech for it self.

My question is, could the tech monopolies really block Opensource AI ?

Can't the computer wizards just go to some other country and ask for opensource friendly regulations. That country could import a massive tech-boom for free. Possibly even get better AI. It's not like this is huge immobile industrial technology.

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=5NUD7rdbCm8
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 No.13304

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 No.13306

>>13304
> face ATTENDANCE
Bio-metrics is a cyclical fad.

The very technology that enables you to detect a bio-metric feature also allows you to make fake duplicate, that circumvents it. It's conceptually flawed.
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 No.13310

https://github.com/hanweikung/face_anon_simple
Simple face exchange for anonymity


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 No.4951[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This Thread Has Been Re-appropriated for leftychan.net Usage.

General thread meant for the discussion of the mobile app for browsing leftypol.org, known as clover.

Releases can be found here:
https://github.com/PietroCarrara/Clover/releases/latest
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 No.12758

There's two major apps that we could use moving forward.
Blue Clover: https://nnuudev.github.io/BlueClover/
Kuroba-Ex: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental

We were very close with Kuroba-Ex but the developer is a bit of a dick and asshole. Thus why I moved to Blue Clover.

Sauce: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/issues/780
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 No.12759

>>12758
based thank you
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 No.13296

Since leftypol has been added to kurobaEx, would it be difficult to fork it and add leftychan?
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 No.13297

>>13296
Why fork, why not just send in a compatibility for both patch?
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 No.13298

>>13296
You'll need two things:

- to find the pull request or commit where leftypol was added
- to be able to compile and test the app

For the first one you can look on github and for the second one you need to figure out how they build that app, are they using Android Studio? Idk anything about android development (or ios for that matter) but I'd download the source on github and open it in Android Studio and see what happens.


 No.13028[Reply]

Here is a thought experiment about a hard problem in auditing computer security
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=sOeuYuvOcl0

if you didn't watch it here's the tldr:
In principle it's possible to compromise enough of the existing software and hardware stack so that a intelligent enough malicious security flaw could hide it self from you no matter how hardcore you go with your security audit. The conclusion being drawn is that the only solution to making sure you have a clean system, is to start from scratch with basic logic circuitry and then slowly build up a trusted software and hardware stack.

It's a clever argument, but there is a much easier way to get around all of this.

You can get to a trusted stack simply by scrambling the logic of a cpu. The only one that will be able to run logic operations on that cpu will be the person that can use the de-scrambler-key on the logic instructions given to that cpu. Malicious inserts into the hardware will return gibberish if they try to listen, and make the cpu produce logic errors if they try to inject code. It doesn't need to be a performant cpu either, something equivalent to 1985 era processors is good enough, as it's only necessary to bootstrap a trusted environment. A moderately sized organization can probably muster the necessary funds and technical sophistication to get a small batch of scrambled cpus produced.
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 No.13274

I'm not sure what you mean concretely by "scrambling the logic of a CPU". Do you mean to say that a key would be needed to load data into registers? Do you mean to say that a key is needed to know the instruction set? Are you referring to fully homomorphic encryption?

The other problem is that suppose this organization of yours can make "scrambled CPUs". How can the rest of us trust that organization? What's to stop some interested party from compromising it?
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 No.13279

>>13274
There is a philosophical question whether microchips can be something that has verifiable operations or whether it's doomed to be a black box. And here the answer is, yes it's possible to build a clean stack that is verifiable all the way down.

If you want to go as hardcore as the philosophical thought experiment you need to have an organization that starts from scratch with a clean-slate processor, that can be a super basic design and therefore it's plausible to do this in reality. Whether a nearly omnipotent opponent exists that requires this level of commitment, is another matter. The motivation for doing this would be more an exercise in scientific rigor and precision.

On the realistic side of things you would scramble a cpu design if you have to produce it in a fab that you don't want to trust. That is from the perspective of a cpu designer.

From the perspective of an end-user: the scramble interface could be exposed to end-users too, they could generate their own de-scrambler.


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 No.12627[Reply]

Because freedom matters.

If your computer still is running a proprietary prison.
And every time it fails you, your frustration grows.
When the system's not free, you will always be hosed.
Put a GNU system on and reboot it
Put it in your horn and toot it!
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 No.13239

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>>13236
Drew is a scheming bastard that wants Stallman and most of the FSF gone so him and his friends can install themselves. You don't want people like Drew leading FSF because these scheming ambitious types don't give a shit about ideals or principles and will 100% sell out.

Drew already has a bad track record. He used to be a huge fascist then suddenly flipped to being a progressive trans ally. Not a trustworthy man.

Also he's a huge hypocrite accusing Stallman of being a pedophile while being an avid browser of /u/ and /c/.
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 No.13241

>>13239
I wonder if this is one of those cases where an accusation is a confession. The most self-righteous always seem to have skeletons in their closet.
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 No.13242

>>13239
I do not care about attention seekers with nothing interesting to say.

I do not care about hating on them. I do not care about their opinions.
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 No.13243

>>13239
>he bookmarked /c/
>1 of the 200 threads on /c/ is a loli thread
>HE IS A PEDOPHILE
This is just as retarded and dishonest as the attacks on RMS you're complaining about.
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 No.13264

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>>13243

>>13257
, fucktard.


 No.13257[Reply]

I know I am a little bit late to the party with this but some "anonymous" group tried to cancel rms and the FSF as well: archive.md/Pt37W (stallman-report.org). It's the usual shit: whining about Stallman's comments on Epstein, supposed "sexual harassment" etc. Basically, the author calls for Stallman to step down from the FSF and/or for FSF members to take him down.

It is already known who wrote this "report": Drew DeVault, a developer who worked (or still works?) on Wayland. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793
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 No.13261

>>13257
>tourmalinetaco 5 days ago

>It’s not a double standard to take the context of a writer’s desires in with their work, especially when they are actively trying to depose someone as important as RMS, and especially when the information is not accurate. What is a double standard though, based off of accurate in-context information, is that Drew DeVault is accusing RMS of pedophilia while he has a history of looking at and collecting drawings of bikini-clad prepubescent girls[0] and having VERY suspicious opinions disregarding minor female body autonomy[1].


>[0] = https://web.archive.org/web/20131007121950/http://www.reddit.com/user/sircmpwn (specifically “Kaname [Madoka] in her swimsuit”. I assume the rules regarding linking to what is legally considered drawn CSAM is rather harsh, so for those who need proof of said claims Pixiv utilizes an ID string on every URL, and the “Sauce” hyperlink will direct you to it.


>[1] “I'm of the opinion that 14 year old girls should be required to have an IUD installed. Ten years of contraception that requires a visit to the doctor to remove prematurely.” - https://web.archive.org/web/20130523180641/http://www.reddit.com/user/sircmpwn



>bringen 5 days ago


>Your second link is worth reading again, seems it has had some rather concerning updates in the past day or two.


>A post from that thread, linked below, is currently highlighted on that site's front page with the title "An open letter libeling Richard Stallman as a pedophile was probably written by Drew DeVault, a progressive open-source developer who has 10 years of history posting lolicon on reddit":

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 No.13263

We've been discussing it here:
>>13230

Thankfully the culprit was exposed quickly and isn't garnering a lot of sympathy. It looks like this is going to fizzle out more quickly this time, especially after the controversy just ignited over the US attacking worldwide free software collaboration.


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