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 No.11277[Reply]

Do you think the internet will eventually be so full of computer-generated text that traditional text-based interaction will become intolerable? Will we all be forced to adopt real-time audio-based interaction because eventually it'll be the only way to be sure you're communicating with a real person?
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 No.11278

>>11277
people are already so unthinking and conformist that it won't matter if they are replaced with literal robots.
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 No.11279

Also, robot artists are already better than human artists.
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 No.11282

>>11277
You could ensure that you talk to meat-people by making everybody buy a cheap cryptographic signature dongle that generates a key when people link their dongles in meat-space.

That way you get proof of meat based on a chain of meat-space link-ups. If you link your dongle you are vouching for that other person not being a bot. If your dongle vouches for too many bots, your dongle won't be trusted anymore and you'll no longer be able to vouch for the non-bot-status of others.

Bot makers can't really fake a realistic meat-space activity.

Audio and video communication can also be faked, it's a lot harder to make it convincing, but there are really realistic and natural sounding speech synthesizers already. Convincing real-time video is eventually also possible. Bio-metrics won't save you.

If bots get advanced enough to grasp complex concepts, it might be interesting to have a Marx-bot.

>>11278
Maybe that's because there's too much AstroTurf online already.
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 No.11284

>>11282
>You could ensure that you talk to meat-people by making everybody buy a cheap cryptographic signature dongle that generates a key when people link their dongles in meat-space.
I remember when Freenet had a system like that. It's not a bad idea, and it can also be used to encrypt traffic. Nothing can break analog.

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 No.11203[Reply]

I've had a question for a while that I've wanted to ask leftists and I figure this is as good a place as any. I can think of only one thing the right and left could ultimately come together on, and that's when it comes to suppressed technologies or suppressed science.

I'm talking about things like free energy, cancer cures, anti gravity tech. Because, if this stuff were available to humanity you'd be able to have the Utopia you want without having to tax the rest of us to death in order to fund your socialist pipe dreams. Plus, don't you guys hate fat capitalists lining their pockets by fleecing everyone and profiting off of human misery (like the cancer industry does)?

Could we not agree that the people behind this sort of suppression need to die? I'd happily eat the rich if it's those fuckers. I'd happily set them off into the wilderness and give them a head start before hunting them down as trophies.
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 No.11204

>>11203
I guess the issue is that the existence of suppressed technology is speculative. There's really no clarity on if it exists or if its a bullshit rumor. In principle, I agree though. People who supress technology for profit should be fed to lions in a stadium.
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 No.11205

>>11203
I wouldn't call it "suppressed" i would call it neglected technologies, capitalists simply do not fund technology development unless they see a way to profit from it. And we definitely are missing out on some fancy tech because capitalists did not see a business-case for it.

>I'm talking about things like free energy, cancer cures, anti gravity tech.

If you define free-energy as some kind of technology that can reverse entropy (Clark tech named after science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke) I think that's extremely unlikely that somebody can do this, and it might not be possible at all.

But if you define free energy as, energy that is too cheap-to-meter, yes you are right about that. If we had, for the last 50 years, spend half of the worlds military budgets on fusion power, we would now be able to produce so much energy that electricity for households would basically be free of cost.

As far as cancer cures go, i think you have to broaden you view. There is a open conspiracy to not develop one-off cures that fix an illness for good, and instead focus on perpetual treatment, to get captive customers and "recurring revenue".
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/wall-street-admits-curing-diseases-is-bad-for-business/

>anti gravity tech
To be fair that is being funded.
I know of several research projects that could be a precursor to anti-gravity-tech.
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 No.11212

>>11204
I'm fine with a discussion on that so long as it includes something actionable that the left and right could come together on in the furtherance of such a future. Clark Tech, post-scarcity, these would make many of the gripes between the right and left irrelevant.
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 No.11213

>>11205
>I wouldn't call it "suppressed" i would call it neglected technologies

A little of Column A, a little of Column B.

As for free energy, I don't rule out the reversal of entropy, but free energy can also mean energy that is so cheap that it's practically free.

>As far as cancer cures go, i think you have to broaden you view.

Cancer is just one of the more blatant examples of suppressed science. Back when I used to binge on walls of text, one of my favorite haunts was https://ahealedplanet.net/ which goes into a lot of detail about this, and lots of other things.

>anti gravity tech

Viktor Grebennikov
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 No.11264

>>11205
>capitalists simply do not fund technology development unless they see a way to profit from it
You're forgetting that governments control immense amounts of money and have zero interest in "profit". Same with central banks and their cronies on wallstreet, the people who actually print all the paper money we use don't need to worry about what's "profitable".

>>11213
>A little of Column A, a little of Column B.
Governments can prevent their citizens from acquiring technology but not each other. USA lost their atomic weapons monopoly after like a year. The idea of "Suppressed Technologies" existing in a globalized multi-polar world is unconvincing.

Apply occam's razor:
[_] all these psychopaths at the top of the world's government, military and financial institutions are all in perfect cooperation and none of them have ever been tempted to exploit the super advanced technology for their own benefit
[_] the super advanced technology simply doesn't exist

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 No.5698[Reply]

>still thinking it was suicide
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 No.5699

HELLOOOOOOOOOOO REDDIT
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 No.5751

>>5698
he knew too much… lol
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 No.11238

How I sucide please answer me
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 No.11239

I wish to please tell me how?

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 No.8858[Reply]

>'Apple is eating our lunch': Google employees admit in lawsuit that the company made it nearly impossible for users to keep their location private
>Google made it nearly impossible for users to keep their location private, according to newly unredacted court documents.
>Google continued collecting location data even when users turned off various location-sharing settings, made popular privacy settings harder to find, and even pressured LG and other phone makers into hiding settings precisely because users liked them, according to the documents.
>When Google tested versions of its Android operating system that made privacy settings easier to find, users took advantage of them, which Google viewed as a "problem," according to the documents.
>Google also tried to convince smartphone makers to hide location settings "through active misrepresentations and/or concealment, suppression, or omission of facts"
>Google employees appeared to recognize that users were frustrated by the company's aggressive data collection practices, potentially hurting its business.
>"Fail #2: *I* should be able to get *my* location on *my* phone without sharing that information with Google," one employee said.
>"This may be how Apple is eating our lunch," they added, saying Apple was "much more likely" to let users take advantage of location-based apps and services on their phones without sharing the data with Apple.
https://archive.is/QYw62
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 No.11207

>proprietary software tracks users
stop the presses! call the president!
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 No.11208

>>11207
>'Left' today is delivering sarcastic one liners while thinking oneself is a deep, original thinker and more highly informed than others. Maybe it always was.
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 No.11210

>>11208
I'm informed enough that I don't need google employees to know that you can't "keep your location private" while using your phone

especially lmaoed at this
>Google employees appeared to recognize that users were frustrated by the company's aggressive data collection practices, potentially hurting its business.
dear "google employees", Google business IS data collection
fucking bitches take people for retards I swear
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 No.11211

>>11207
There is a difference between what we know to be true, and what we can show to be true in the fairy tale world of the legal system. This is why this qualifies as news, because the issue has now moved into the latter group, so they can no longer lie about it in subsequent related trials.

Similarly, we knew the state suppresses inconvenient stories from social media, but now we can also show it to be true using the government's own documents. >>11193
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 No.11234

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Apple being cut from exactly the same cloth as Google:

https://gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-analytics-tracking-even-when-off-app-store-1849757558
> Apple Is Tracking You Even When Its Own Privacy Settings Say It’s Not, New Research Says
> An independent test suggests Apple collects data about you and your phone when its own settings promise to “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.”
> November 8, 2022

> For all of Apple’s talk about how private your iPhone is, the company vacuums up a lot of data about you. iPhones do have a privacy setting that is supposed to turn off that tracking. According to a new report by independent researchers, though, Apple collects extremely detailed information on you with its own apps even when you turn off tracking, an apparent direct contradiction of Apple’s own description of how the privacy protection works.

> The iPhone Analytics setting makes an explicit promise. Turn it off, and Apple says that it will “disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether.” However, Tommy Mysk and Talal Haj Bakry, two app developers and security researchers at the software company Mysk, took a look at the data collected by a number of Apple iPhone apps—the App Store, Apple Music, Apple TV, Books, and Stocks. They found the analytics control and other privacy settings had no obvious effect on Apple’s data collection—the tracking remained the same whether iPhone Analytics was switched on or off.

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 No.11193[Reply]

https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/
Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinformation
October 31 2022, 9:00 a.m.

Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
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There is also a formalized process for government officials to directly flag content on Facebook or Instagram and request that it be throttled or suppressed through a special Facebook portal that requires a government or law enforcement email to use. At the time of writing, the “content request system” at facebook.com/xtakedowns/login is still live. DHS and Meta, the parent company of Facebook, did not respond to a request for comment. The FBI declined to comment.
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To accomplish these broad goals, the report said, CISA should invest in external research to evaluate the “efficacy of interventions,” specifically with research looking at how alleged disinformation can be countered and how quickly messages spread. Geoff Hale, the director of the Election Security Initiative at CISA, recommended the use of third-party information-sharing nonprofits as a “clearing house for information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.”
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 No.11194

Interesting leak

It's within the right of private platforms to suppress whatever they don't like, but when a secret portal is created for the US govt to direct such suppression, this might cross into a violation of the 1st amendment. A lawsuit may come out of this.

Also really puts the suppression of various news stories (Hunter laptop, coof related stuff) into greater perspective
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 No.11195

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>>11194
>A lawsuit may come out of this.
Were they sued over PRISM? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM I'm pretty sure the FISA can be used to shut down any pesky lawsuit.

>the suppression of various news stories
The government is also not shy about manufacturing:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/state-department-concocting-fake-intellectual-property-twitter-feud/
State Department concocting “fake” intellectual property “Twitter feud”
“Our public diplomacy office is still settling on a hashtag,” State Department says.
Jul 6, 2017 7:41 pm UTC

The US State Department wants to team up with other government agencies and Hollywood in a bid to create a "fake Twitter feud" about the importance of intellectual property rights. As part of this charade, the State Department's Bureau of Economic Affairs says it has been seeking the participation of the US Office of Intellectual Property Enforcement, the Motion Picture Association of America, the Recording Industry Association of America, the US Patent and Trademark Office, and "others."

To make the propaganda plot seem more legitimate, the State Department is trying to enlist Stanford Law School and "similar academic institutions" to play along on the @StateDept feed on Twitter.

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 No.5792[Reply]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/science/artificial-intelligence-ai-gpt3.html
As if the noise-to-signal ratio of internet content wasn't bad enough.
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 No.5913

>>5794
An AI trained with this website as a dataset would be an abomination.
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 No.5917

>>5913
Someone should do it
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 No.5929

>>5794
It's not available to the public because they don't want anyone but glowies to have it iirc
>>5913
/leftybot/ when?
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 No.11191

what do you think google has been doing for the past 30 years, just that reading everything and learning
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 No.11192

>>5913
420chan used to have netjester. We should totally do something like that.

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 No.11165[Reply]

What is keeping this charade going? Why would anyone think it's the next big thing. VR headsets still make most people motion sick.
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 No.11172

>>11171
I mean cloudflair isn't the only upstream provider that exists. Just the largest. You are right about web 2.0 (but you didn't have to be a dick that hurt my feelings) but I think you haven't spent a lot of time lurking around the underbelly of the web where a whole community of small self hosted sites exists. There's also gemini and gopher which are making a resurgence. I mean just cause most normies use the path of least resistance doesn't mean the internet isn't exactly what marx was speaking of anyways. It's still that. That's how I am able to have cable tv and any movie, show, anime, etc etc I want free for ever.

I don't disagree with you really but I think you have a far to pessimistic angle on it.
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 No.11173

>>11165
VR will have many niche applications like relaxing environment simulator for hospital patients, Submarine crews, long-haul travel, and maybe even as pacification for refugee camp situations.

VR-entertainment could have already been a small commercial success, if it was offered as an arcade-service.
Imagine arcade-machines that are composed of a powerful computer, vr-goggles and various mechanical force feed-back-simulation-harnesses. People could rent time on a VRcade-machine. Valve's VR with an enthusiast set-up comes closest to this currently.
I had hoped for VR tourism.

For the general public a VR set up has to be self-contained in the goggles, with several hours of battery run time.
The only way to make this happen with appealing optical quality in a compact and energy efficient enough way is to make dedicated asic chips for each entertainment experience. Which basically means going back to physical cartridges.
If one were to build an opensource ASIC-chip ecosystem with a complementary development stack it might be economically viable.
Since more of the logic is expressed in hardware, it is much faster and energy efficient, however the ability to patch bugs after release is also much more limited, and the biggest hurdle for this is probably going to be achieving the necessary quality control.

Facebook is a dying empire, and Metaverse is Zuck's attempt to keep it going. It's mostly just a second life remake, but it's probably worse because all the digital-real estate pay to play shit will kill any escapism potential this might have had. For some reason the metaverse graphics look worse than what second life had over a decade ago. Also are you willing to trust Facebook with all your senses ?

I don't think that VR or 3d entertainment will really die, eventually somebody will find a way to make it work.
Maybe when optical interconnects for data-lines on circuit-boards go into general production, it might become possible to make a consumer grade general purpose computer have low enough latency to drive vr-goggles.
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 No.11174

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The reason is is that apparently there was a working business model for the metaverse already working in underground VR Chat rooms.
This guy talks about the underground furry sex scene that existed for a while in VR Chat. It was kicked off by a VR Chat application that allowed people to exchange Wownero (a fork of the crypto currency Monero) with each other via an in game wallet that worked by simply handing cash to each other as you would in real life.
This set off an explosion in virtual prostitutes, night clubs, headlining dj's and other alternative lifestyle/night life services. This guy says that people were making real money, as much as several hundred dollars a night either sucking virtual dicks as a furry or spinning records on a turntable for a party.
This made Wownero explode in value for a short period of time, which you can see for yourself, until the VR Chat Wownero Wallet developers pulled the plug the plug on their application. Which killed the scene and crashed the price of Wownero.
I can validate exactly none of this but it seems really plausible and would explain why so many companies are going to hard into the paint on VR metaverses.
https://odysee.com/@TheCastle:8/2022-03-03-17-16-28:7
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 No.11184

>>11174
any more stylish anime dick pics?
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 No.11187

As mentioned before in other threads, it's likepy that metaverse is really just a money laundering scheme.

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 No.11116[Reply]

I heard the claim that hidden services don't leave the Tor network by Doctor Mike Pound ( http://grwp24hodrefzvjjuccrkw3mjq4tzhaaq32amf33dzpmuxe7ilepcmad.onion/watch?v=lVcbq_a5N9I https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=lVcbq_a5N9I ) and by speakers on a talk uploaded on The Tor Project's channel ( http://grwp24hodrefzvjjuccrkw3mjq4tzhaaq32amf33dzpmuxe7ilepcmad.onion/watch?v=VmsFxBEN3fc https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=VmsFxBEN3fc ) and I do not understand how it is possible, since as far as I understand it, the Tor node immediately before the hidden service must decrypt the data before sending it to the hidden service, making it have the same weakness as a typical exit node. As far as I am aware, a hidden service hides its location with a regular Tor circuit from a rendezvous point and regular Tor circuits leave the Tor network, so surely the network for the hidden service must leave the Tor network as well.
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 No.11160

>>11158
You also for got that every node is encrypted and only the node Infront of the node behind has the encryption keys.
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 No.11161

>>11160
>You also for got that every node is encrypted and only the node Infront of the node behind has the encryption keys.
Nope because then you would have to know where the onion site is to build a circuit directly to it. It's a 3 hop circuit from client to rendezvous node, 3 hop circuit from onion to rendezvous node and neither side knows where the other is.
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 No.11163

>>11161
No you don't. That's retarded. The chain only needs to know the existence of the next link.
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 No.11164

>>11163
If clients can pick the whole chain up to the hidden service they can just pick 3 nodes they control and the hidden service is not hidden anymore.

>That's retarded.
You're not as smart as you think you are.
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 No.12512

>>11164
is correct and you can verify this without reading through the protocol simply by clicking the small circuit icon at the very left of the browser's URL field.
I didn't know this but what anon says makes sense.

>>11153
Voluntaryist is correct too
You have the private key of the destination so nothing is decrypted between hops except for the IP address of the next hop.
Tor isn't RetardRetroShare where "end-to-end-encrypted" file transfers are only encrypted between nodes and each node can read the content of the transferred files. (This actually got someone convicted in court in a country where by law you are not permitted to transmit illegal content if you can read it and therefore know that it is illegal.)

The NSA can conduct timing attacks on tor (control the guards, watch traffic) but this becomes more difficult the more people use it, even if it's javascript-using normie scum.

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 No.11143[Reply]

i need a cheap, portable, low storage laptop but the cheapest ones at my local walmart are fucking chrome books? Are chromebooks ok if you put linux on them or are they just garbage all together? What can I do?
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 No.11145

I think you have to reflash the bios to but linux on a chrome book which can get tricky.
What is you r budget, I'd just save up and get the cheapest system 76 laptop or get one at Costco.
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 No.11146

>>11144
Based digits
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 No.11147

bought a refurbished thinkpad twice, worked out fine for me both times. battery life kinda sucked though.
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 No.11148

>>11147
I have a think pad but they are too bulky and obnoxious. I'm trying to not seem like a massive dick head in public with a giant laptop
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 No.11149

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>>11143
Linux Chromebooks are great! I have a Toshiba Chromebook 2 that runs gallium OS and it's been a nice little machine for several years now. It's getting a bit old so I'm considering replacing it at the end of the year. Here are a few things you should know before getting started.
1. Make sure you get a machine with a compatible processor. I believe only x86 intel CPUs will work.
2. You will likely need to flash in firmware and possibly remove a write-protection screw. Have a screwdriver that can manipulate little laptop screws.
3. Upgrading the SSD is STRONGLY recommended. Most Chromebooks come with 16GB ssds, grossly insufficient for a proper PC. You can get a 256GB ssd for as little as $40. Make sure it is the correct size for your machine. Suffice to say, be sure to get a machine with a removable ssd.
4. Do NOT install Gallium OS. Although my currant machine runs Gallium OS and most old websites will point you to it, it is an abandoned project (no updates in nearly 3 years). I'll probably install Debian with XFCE, but the anything distro with a lightweight desktop environment should be fine.

Here's a site that will walk you through the changing the firmware, it also has a list of comparable devices.
https://mrchromebox.tech/#home

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 No.10297[Reply]

I have over 100,000 photos and a lot of them are unnecessary and I want to get rid of them.

I need a windows program that can help load all the images without hanging up. Sort alike google photos but without the uploading but with the date based cataloguing
Any recommendations?
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 No.10540

>>10405
nice
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 No.10585

>>10539
Why are you here then? If your life gives you enough opportunities to take 100000 photos then you're wasting your time on a *chan.
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 No.10846

>>10382
hydrus works offline, you just tag them with it to organize them
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 No.11132

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>>10297
On Linux, PCManFM has thumbailers for anything. From pictures to PDF, DJVU, WebP.

Another one is SpaceFM.
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 No.11133

Bleach it has an option to delete duplicate files.

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