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 No.13348[Reply]>>13349

Yeah this shit works better than my paid chatgpt account, what else is there to say?
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 No.13349

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>>13348
>what else is there to say?
Apparently deep-seek caused a big sell-off in tech stocks. There's a lot of speculation on that. Mine is that it proved that the big players aren't the only game in town, and that new competition can emerge, and that the trend probably goes towards commodity AI rather than siloed monopoly rent AI.

Deepseek being open source is also nice.

With it being a pure reinforcement learning design it doesn't need fine tuning and that's probably why it only cost like 6 million to make.

If you want to run the big boy model with 600+ billion parameters you need like 405 gigabyte of memory preferably speedy video memory. Graphics cards need an entire order of magnitude increase in video memory capacity. The 8-16 gigs on consumer cards and the 24-48ish gigs on profesh cards doesn't cut it anymore. Maybe this is finally whats going to cause mainstream PCBdesing to incorporate optical data-lanes.


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 No.11956[Reply]

Recently there has been a lot of commotion around large language model text based AI.
They are able to do impressive stuff, they give useful answers, and even can write somewhat usable programming sample code.

The most famous one currently is chatgpt, but all of those AIs are basically black boxes, that probably have some malicious features under the hood.

While there are Open-Source Implementations of ChatGPT style Training Algorithms
https://www.infoq.com/news/2023/01/open-source-chatgpt/
Those kinda require that you have a sizeable gpu cluster like 500 $1k cards that are specialized kit, not your standard gaming stuff. To chew through large language-models with 100 billion to 500 billion parameters.

The biggest computational effort is the initial training run, that chews through a huge training data-set. After that is done, just running the thing to respond to your queries is easier.

So whats the path to a foss philosophy ethical AI ?
Should people do something like peer to peer network where they connect computers together to distribute the computational effort to many people ?

Or should people go for reducing the functionality until it can run on a normal computer ?
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 No.13054

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The Hated One made a good and brief vid about big tech lobbies trying to kill Open source AI because bigtech can't compete with the open stuff on cost efficiency. His take is to go bug your political representatives to not let big tech hord all the AI-tech for it self.

My question is, could the tech monopolies really block Opensource AI ?

Can't the computer wizards just go to some other country and ask for opensource friendly regulations. That country could import a massive tech-boom for free. Possibly even get better AI. It's not like this is huge immobile industrial technology.

https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=5NUD7rdbCm8
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 No.13306

>>13304
> face ATTENDANCE
Bio-metrics is a cyclical fad.

The very technology that enables you to detect a bio-metric feature also allows you to make fake duplicate, that circumvents it. It's conceptually flawed.
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 No.13310

https://github.com/hanweikung/face_anon_simple
Simple face exchange for anonymity
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 No.12988[Reply]

The internet is dying, maybe it's actually already dead. This is a general thread about the dead internet theory. Share articles, first hand proof that the internet is dead, discuss etc. There is alot going on which indicates, that the dead internet theory is becoming reality.
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 No.13020

>>13019
https://archive.ph/20240422172830/https://www.wired.com/story/section-702-reauthorization-expansion/

>Legal experts—including a rare few attorneys who’ve argued cases before the FISA court in the past—say the new ECSP text ensnares owners of facilities housing equipment used to store and carry data, as well as commercial landlords and virtually anyone with access to communications equipment in those spaces. The text, they argue, may be interpreted by the government as granting it authority to compel the assistance of “delivery personnel, cleaning contractors, and utility providers,” among others.

How they can reconcile forcing normal people to become spies, is hard to fathom. Ethically and strategically, it sure is egregious, however abusing people like that, fosters malicious compliance.
>Criticism of the 702 program largely stems from revelations of abuse in a declassified court filing from 2022, which describes rampant misuse of the 702 database by the FBI. Investigators at the bureau have been caught unlawfully scouring 702 data for information on American protesters, journalists, and political donors.
This type of hard persecution is what kills the legitimacy.

>What's next for the internet?

it's hard to predict technological trends, a new counter strategy to surveillance extremism might be increasing data noise, if enough useless data clogs up the system, that might mitigate the harm it does.
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 No.13024>>13025

Good post by Kevin Gosztola on the recent history of domestic spying with a foreign pretext:
https://thedissenter.org/biden-expands-ranks-government-spies/

Seems like one of the aims of this bill is to go after Gaza genocide protestors by pretending they're Hamas.
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 No.13025

>>13024
>Seems like one of the aims of this bill is to go after Gaza genocide protestors by pretending they're Hamas.
Peak Zionism ended a while ago, the political pendulum had already begun swinging in the other direction. The Zionists going full retard with the mass-murdering are accelerating that process. And it's not just mass-politics that are changing, the militarized Zionism project is more trouble than it's worth in material terms as well. Soon everything tied to it will become politically tainted.
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 No.13026

https://noyb.eu/en/ag-cjeu-facebook-must-minimize-personal-data-ads-eu
Here's an interesting case about minimizing personal data collection and retention.

This ties in well with what i think the near future privacy politics will become, where people consider data related to people as analogous to some kind radioactive waste material.


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This Thread Has Been Re-appropriated for leftychan.net Usage.

General thread meant for the discussion of the mobile app for browsing leftypol.org, known as clover.

Releases can be found here:
https://github.com/PietroCarrara/Clover/releases/latest
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 No.12758>>12759

There's two major apps that we could use moving forward.
Blue Clover: https://nnuudev.github.io/BlueClover/
Kuroba-Ex: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental

We were very close with Kuroba-Ex but the developer is a bit of a dick and asshole. Thus why I moved to Blue Clover.

Sauce: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/issues/780
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 No.12759

>>12758
based thank you
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 No.13296>>13297>>13298

Since leftypol has been added to kurobaEx, would it be difficult to fork it and add leftychan?
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 No.13297

>>13296
Why fork, why not just send in a compatibility for both patch?
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 No.13298

>>13296
You'll need two things:

- to find the pull request or commit where leftypol was added
- to be able to compile and test the app

For the first one you can look on github and for the second one you need to figure out how they build that app, are they using Android Studio? Idk anything about android development (or ios for that matter) but I'd download the source on github and open it in Android Studio and see what happens.


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 No.13028[Reply]

Here is a thought experiment about a hard problem in auditing computer security
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=sOeuYuvOcl0

if you didn't watch it here's the tldr:
In principle it's possible to compromise enough of the existing software and hardware stack so that a intelligent enough malicious security flaw could hide it self from you no matter how hardcore you go with your security audit. The conclusion being drawn is that the only solution to making sure you have a clean system, is to start from scratch with basic logic circuitry and then slowly build up a trusted software and hardware stack.

It's a clever argument, but there is a much easier way to get around all of this.

You can get to a trusted stack simply by scrambling the logic of a cpu. The only one that will be able to run logic operations on that cpu will be the person that can use the de-scrambler-key on the logic instructions given to that cpu. Malicious inserts into the hardware will return gibberish if they try to listen, and make the cpu produce logic errors if they try to inject code. It doesn't need to be a performant cpu either, something equivalent to 1985 era processors is good enough, as it's only necessary to bootstrap a trusted environment. A moderately sized organization can probably muster the necessary funds and technical sophistication to get a small batch of scrambled cpus produced.
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 No.13274>>13279

I'm not sure what you mean concretely by "scrambling the logic of a CPU". Do you mean to say that a key would be needed to load data into registers? Do you mean to say that a key is needed to know the instruction set? Are you referring to fully homomorphic encryption?

The other problem is that suppose this organization of yours can make "scrambled CPUs". How can the rest of us trust that organization? What's to stop some interested party from compromising it?
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 No.13279

>>13274
There is a philosophical question whether microchips can be something that has verifiable operations or whether it's doomed to be a black box. And here the answer is, yes it's possible to build a clean stack that is verifiable all the way down.

If you want to go as hardcore as the philosophical thought experiment you need to have an organization that starts from scratch with a clean-slate processor, that can be a super basic design and therefore it's plausible to do this in reality. Whether a nearly omnipotent opponent exists that requires this level of commitment, is another matter. The motivation for doing this would be more an exercise in scientific rigor and precision.

On the realistic side of things you would scramble a cpu design if you have to produce it in a fab that you don't want to trust. That is from the perspective of a cpu designer.

From the perspective of an end-user: the scramble interface could be exposed to end-users too, they could generate their own de-scrambler.


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 No.12627[Reply]

Because freedom matters.

If your computer still is running a proprietary prison.
And every time it fails you, your frustration grows.
When the system's not free, you will always be hosed.
Put a GNU system on and reboot it
Put it in your horn and toot it!
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>>13236
Drew is a scheming bastard that wants Stallman and most of the FSF gone so him and his friends can install themselves. You don't want people like Drew leading FSF because these scheming ambitious types don't give a shit about ideals or principles and will 100% sell out.

Drew already has a bad track record. He used to be a huge fascist then suddenly flipped to being a progressive trans ally. Not a trustworthy man.

Also he's a huge hypocrite accusing Stallman of being a pedophile while being an avid browser of /u/ and /c/.
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 No.13241

>>13239
I wonder if this is one of those cases where an accusation is a confession. The most self-righteous always seem to have skeletons in their closet.
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 No.13242

>>13239
I do not care about attention seekers with nothing interesting to say.

I do not care about hating on them. I do not care about their opinions.
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 No.13243>>13264

>>13239
>he bookmarked /c/
>1 of the 200 threads on /c/ is a loli thread
>HE IS A PEDOPHILE
This is just as retarded and dishonest as the attacks on RMS you're complaining about.
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 No.13264

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>>13257
, fucktard.


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 No.13257[Reply]>>13264>>13261

I know I am a little bit late to the party with this but some "anonymous" group tried to cancel rms and the FSF as well: archive.md/Pt37W (stallman-report.org). It's the usual shit: whining about Stallman's comments on Epstein, supposed "sexual harassment" etc. Basically, the author calls for Stallman to step down from the FSF and/or for FSF members to take him down.

It is already known who wrote this "report": Drew DeVault, a developer who worked (or still works?) on Wayland. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41859793
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 No.13261

>>13257
>tourmalinetaco 5 days ago

>It’s not a double standard to take the context of a writer’s desires in with their work, especially when they are actively trying to depose someone as important as RMS, and especially when the information is not accurate. What is a double standard though, based off of accurate in-context information, is that Drew DeVault is accusing RMS of pedophilia while he has a history of looking at and collecting drawings of bikini-clad prepubescent girls[0] and having VERY suspicious opinions disregarding minor female body autonomy[1].


>[0] = https://web.archive.org/web/20131007121950/http://www.reddit.com/user/sircmpwn (specifically “Kaname [Madoka] in her swimsuit”. I assume the rules regarding linking to what is legally considered drawn CSAM is rather harsh, so for those who need proof of said claims Pixiv utilizes an ID string on every URL, and the “Sauce” hyperlink will direct you to it.


>[1] “I'm of the opinion that 14 year old girls should be required to have an IUD installed. Ten years of contraception that requires a visit to the doctor to remove prematurely.” - https://web.archive.org/web/20130523180641/http://www.reddit.com/user/sircmpwn



>bringen 5 days ago


>Your second link is worth reading again, seems it has had some rather concerning updates in the past day or two.


>A post from that thread, linked below, is currently highlighted on that site's front page with the title "An open letter libeling Richard Stallman as a pedophile was probably written by Drew DeVault, a progressive open-source developer who has 10 years of history posting lolicon on reddit":

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 No.13263

We've been discussing it here:
>>13230

Thankfully the culprit was exposed quickly and isn't garnering a lot of sympathy. It looks like this is going to fizzle out more quickly this time, especially after the controversy just ignited over the US attacking worldwide free software collaboration.


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 No.12073[Reply]

So apparently big publishers want to kill the internet archive again.

They accuse I.A. of having done a copywrong by lending out books. I won't bore you with the legal technicalities because i think it's just a pretext for publishers trying to kill a library because it's a cartel that wants a monopoly.

I think the lessons here are if you pay these people money, they're going to use it to attack nice things like the Internet Archive, and "copy-right" is nothing but a heinous weapon.

People who build archives to preserve the memory of the past are like really rare flowers, it's an incomprehensible act of barbarism to try to burn down their archives.

https://blog.archive.org/2023/03/25/the-fight-continues/
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 No.13225

>>13224
God don't even fucking bring the Cloudcancer faggotry up, it makes me so mad. These faggots are fucking enemies of the people, doing their best to make Firefox unusable
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 No.13227>>13228>>13232

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https://xcancel.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1845502888480579860
A group claiming to be Palestine solidarity activists is claiming credit for the hacks and DDoS. Apparently we're supposed to have sympathy for victims in Palestine after they just attacked the good guys.

Here's a real juicy bit of their write-up:
>On June 1st, 2020, four major publishing houses— Hachette Book Group, Penguin Random House, HarperCollins, and John Wiley— filed a lawsuit against the Internet Archive in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, claiming that the Internet Archive’s regulated digital lending practices constitute copyright infringement. On March 25th, 2023, the court ruled in favor of the publishers. The negotiated ruling issued on August 11, 2023, prohibited the Internet Archive from lending books for which electronic copies are sold digitally.

>On August 11th, 2023, the major music companies Universal Music Group, Sony Music, and Concord (along with their subsidiaries Capitol Records, Arista Records, and CMGI Recorded Music Assets) also filed a lawsuit against the Internet Archive in the same federal court in New York regarding the archive's Great 78 project, demanding $621 million in damages for alleged copyright infringement.


>The archive was supposed to be a reference for information, but the site has started to resemble piracy sites. Frankly, we are astonished, as the picture has become clear: The archive is officially responsible for this circus they created to escape from lawsuits and financial crimes. Do you want a job with us, Brewster Kahle?


In other words, this entity wants us to be mad at Internet Archive for violating copyright law. They want us to think IA actually deserved to have a bunch of scumbag publishers go after them. A hacktivist group siding with copyright law? First one I've ever heard of.
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 No.13228

>>13227
>A group claiming to be Palestine solidarity activists is claiming credit for the hacks and DDoS.
Yeah they probably are neither a Palestine solidarity group nor the people who done the hacks and ddos.

>In other words, this entity wants us to be mad at Internet Archive for violating copyright law.

Publishers want to get rid of public libraries, that's all there is too it.

IA probably didn't violate copyright law, by any reasonable interpretation. (I do understand the irony of putting the word reasonable in the same sentence as copyright in present year)
And it's just madness to accuse people who run websites to be engaged in mercenary naval warfare.

There is a technical aspect. Libraries do have to pay to lend books. But during covid many people were cut off from libraries on account of "lock-downs" (horrible terminology) and could not use the book lending services. However publishers did not offer a refund to libraries, that means they took license money but nothing was offered in return.

There is another argument, the extremist expansion of copyright was not exactly done with democratic consent, powerful lobbies wrote those laws and then it was foisted onto society. To what extend copyright law falls into the category of unjust might-makes-right and justice respectively is debatable. Unjust laws are not valid, it's not a crime to violate unjust laws but it is a crime to enforce unjust laws. A recent example of an unjust law would be banning birth-controle medications, because it violated the right to self-determination and it is political interference into medical treatments. Basically medical treatments ought to be decided by patients and their doctors, without any third party interference.

If they kill Internet Archive that will create damages in opportunity cost for billions of people. The copyright pushers already have infringed on personal property rights of billions of people by infecting digital goods with malware that they call "digital rights management". So what they are doing likely isn't above board either.
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 No.13232

>>13227
>"Palestine soldarity group"
A Zio-op, non plus ultra
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 No.13258

archive.org is back, btw
https://blog.archive.org/2024/10/21/internet-archive-services-update-2024-10-21/

>In recovering from recent cyberattacks on October 8, the Internet Archive has resumed the Wayback Machine (starting October 13) and Archive-It (October 17), and as of today (October 21), has begun offering provisional availability of archive.org in a read-only manner. Features like uploading, borrowing, reviewing items, interlibrary loan, and other services are not yet available.


>Please note that these services will have limited availability as we continue maintenance.


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 No.12969[Reply]

Fuck imageboards. I want text. And if you do too, then hoo boy do I have the thread for you!
This thread is for sharing textboard links. Hard mode - No Clearnet.

(Yes, I'm begging. But come on, my mouth is open and the spoon is right there…)
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 No.12971

Same here! Text is based!
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 No.12973

That's so 1990.
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 No.13244

bumpy


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 No.13069[Reply][Watch Thread]

So OpenClosedAi has appointed a NSA-guy as director.
So it's probably best to avoid that one.
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>We might fuck up AI
Yup probably

<Larry Ellison says AI will enable a vast surveillance system that can monitor citizens.

<Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle, shared his thoughts on AI during a recent meeting.
<Walking down a suburban neighborhood street already feels like a Ring doorbell panopticon.
<But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior."

https://12ft.io/https://www.businessinsider.in/tech/news/billionaire-larry-ellison-says-a-vast-ai-fueled-surveillance-system-can-ensure-citizens-will-be-on-their-best-behavior/articleshow/113373120.cms

What he is proposing is essentially behavior modification via psychological torture.
Technology as a whip In this case surveillance-stalker-wares and AI-stalker-wares.

It'll go beyond what people can tolerate and cause the 3 conflict reactions (flight,freeze and attack). People will figure out how fragile all the digital support infrastructure is and it'll get destroyed. It took over 3 decades to build and it'll be torn down in a fit of rage, lasting maybe a week. All the digital niceties will probably be lost too. And it will take forever to recover it. It'll be back to square one.
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>>13208
>It took over 3 decades to build and it'll be torn down in a fit of rage, lasting maybe a week

Hopefully, but I'm not that optimistic. I think if it's done slowly enough people will hold the L and accept it.
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 No.13210

>>13209
I don't think the tear-down scenario is particularly hopeful. Consider all the things that'll be lost. The hopeful scenario is where the digital infrastructure is corrected in order to serve the interests of the people.

As far as the surveillance-aggressors are concerned, their end goal is a device attached to your neck (and everybody else's) that can punish by electroshock, chemical-pain-injections, and ultimately death by blowing up a small charge Zionist pager style. I don't know how to categorize this, regression to serfdom, probably.

If you are still asking your self how surveillance leads to exploding neck-devices (which would be odd considering recent events), it's the logical conclusion of trying to controle people via fear.

I'm not making this up, ten years ago i read an article by a consulting-guy for super-rich people from roughly the same milieu as this Ellison guy, maybe we could name it the SIC (surveillance industrial complex). He said that he got requests for technological control-bracelets to put around people's necks in order to ensure reliable controle over people for "end of the world emergency scenarios"

They'll keep pushing unless they are stopped. So if you harbor any illusions for a boring dystopia that might just be bearable enough, keep in mind they're building the Torment Nexus, intentionally so.

Also the Normies aren't taking the L they're just pursuing a different strategy than privacy conscious techies. They think about the surveillance machine like a reputation/public-image management problem. They're going to push for the ability to curate their "surveillance profile", and they'll be able to do this to a great extend. And possibly also to ruin the profiles of others (1) . Privacy conscious techies are opposed to observation because they are builders, who don't want bullies to take what they made from them. Bullies don't take what they can't see. The paniopticon probably comes with a heavy economic penalty, because it demoralizes many builders.
(1) the surveillance ideologues who think that the surveillance data will be a record of reality are delusional

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>>13208
>Corpo glowie casually proposes Skynet dystopia
>Soydevs rejoice

If such a thing even gets considered seriously, I'm gonna kill myself
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 No.13221

>>13220
If only you knew how bad things were.
A major application for AI is going to be for Bioinformatics.
Normies were stupid enough to give large chunks of their genomes to 23&Me, who then used AI to fill in the blanks for people missing from the global family tree. All this shit got "leaked"; what will it be used for?


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