/tech/ - Technology

>>12797
It's very open source, so anybody with the necessary skills could put different inputs on it.

I don't have experience with that type of input scheme, but it seems to be a scroll wheel when you slide your finger over it in a circular motion, a directional-pad if you press the top/bottom or sides. And the middle bit is an ok/menue button. That seems usable enough for an mp3 player.

Do you have a particular input scheme in mind that's better ?

My hunch is that a track-point/keyboard-nob might make for a nice navigation input.

>>8164
i have a cracked apk on my phone so its is all free and without ads.

>>8164
tbh i only pay for hardware and a vpn, everything else is free. i dont see why you would genuinely want to pay for music, or any media for that matter. I buy a top of the line server from 10 years ago for 300 and then buy used 10 tb hard drives i stress test and send back when they fail. I then use the ones that are fine to store torrented media I stream through jellyfin.

Torrenting is stupid easy, and I never get caught because im not stupid and use a vpn.

I will say, I do pay for resold iptv 2 years at a time but that is honestly still way cheaper. I can't win every battle, but I will rebel against the private oligopoly as much as possible, even if its in vain.

>>12926
>i dont see why you would genuinely want to pay for music
Sure, a lot of contemporary music was ruined by corporate lowest common denominator design. It's not worth paying for that, and it's probably not worth listening to it either.

Parts of the music market will disappear. Machine learning software will likely generate good enough sound for generic background music. It will get condensed into a cheap box similarly to other low cost commodity electronic goods. Today it takes a pricey workstation computer to do this, tomorrow it will be a tiny chip costing a thousand times less.

If you want good music you might want to pay as a means to influence what kind of music gets made to get more small scale good quality independent stuff. File-sharing solves the distribution part, it brings down the cost to near zero, which is important for small time independents, who can't roll out sales infrastructure. The part that is still missing is organizing production.

Big corporate is trying to monetize access, which is a very negative strategy that leads to a lot of hostility. First they fence off the music to keep people out and then they take on the role of gate keepers, who need to be bribed to let people through. It's very reminiscent of medieval market places where producers, merchants and customers alike had to pay a toll to the local baron to enter the market-place.

If we could find a way to monetize direction of sound, you'd pay to influence what kind of music your favorite musician, band, orchestra, etc composes and produces next. The insanity of access-control schemes would evaporate. And it would be a positive strategy, that doesn't require all that hostility and keeping people out.

My only issue with torrenting music is that underground music with less than 100,kmlisteners is impossible Tom actually listen to on anything other than Spotify now a days.

Apple is gay and retarded. SAGE.
Also. Is this an AI post? Lol.

>>12920
It's pretty cool that they have tracking without lightboxes nailed, as well as good hand tracking. Apple's hardware has always been top notch, their software really cripples them, I won't ever buy anything of theirs because I can't do whatever I want with their devices.

>>12922
Their hardware is designed to only run with apple sources, so, ultimately, it's still ass.

>>12921
No it's not AI, good grief.

>>12922
>It's pretty cool that they have tracking without lightboxes nailed
indeed
>Apple's hardware has always been top notch
No, apple hardware has always been hit or miss, they released good stuff but also a bunch of lemons. This seems pretty good but lets wait how it does after people have been using it for a while.

Also like >>12923 says their hardware is not consumer friendly, it's kinda locked down, and over the last 10 years it has become repair-hostile.

>0) Are the orgs like EFF strong enough to protect us ?
They have played a decent role in the past serving as a general canary in the coal mine of internet freedom, but those fuckers completely dropped the ball when Stallman was smearmobbed, and they've occasionally had some other hypocritical stances in recent years.

>>12902
I was about to to say they have been infiltrated by green haired, nose ring piercing, troons.

>>12902
>dropped the ball when Stallman was smearmobbed
yeah that was unfortunate

>>12903
>they have been infiltrated by green haired
the question is does that hinder their defense of digital rights ?

I'm going to make a BlueSky/@protocol account once they open up registrations. Twitter is done for if they are going to require biometric and government ID. Fuck that shit.

>>12521
Never heard of this before, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Can you explain why you favor this.

>>12525
You mean BlueSky? It's from the original founder of Twitter, Jack. Jack sucks dick, but BlueSky is built on the @protocol, which is another decentralized social media protocol, much like Fediverse.

The key difference IMO is that @protocol will allow you to bring all of your content/timeline with you to other servers as well as your followers, so it's much more censorship-resistant and decentralized than either Twitter or Fediverse. And I think it'll probably have wider adoption than Mastodon due to financial backing.

>>12526
>The key difference IMO is that @protocol will allow you to bring all of your content/timeline with you to other servers as well as your followers, so it's much more censorship-resistant and decentralized than either Twitter or Fediverse.
Are we talking about the same Fediverse here? That's lots of Fediverse technologies that allow you to do that.

twitter is killing nitter again
The context might be cracking down on Ai scraping

https://nitter.d420.de/
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish
<Unfortunately, the API servers have set sail into the digital sunset.
<Looks like this is the end of TwiX.
<Other (still left working) Instances: https://status.d420.de.

<If nothing changes, all remaining instances will go down eventually: Instances rely on guest accounts, which are valid for a certain time and of which you need a ton to run a public instance. The API for this got taken down and it doesn't look like a fluke this time.

<Thanks for the ride.

discussion on the nitter github repo:
https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983#issuecomment-1913362376
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Could be exciting.

Inb4 dystopian horror predictions

>>12894
Cool. Now we'll have tons of sporadically thrown out nuclear batteries too. Just imagine what will happen after the release of iphone vuvuzela XD NOOK-2v.

Nokia will become Nukia.

>>12895
>Could be exciting.
kek physics pun, you know because ionized electrons (beta-radiation) are sometimes called excited electrons.

>Inb4 dystopian horror predictions
Yup it already started.

>>12899
>tons of sporadically thrown out nuclear batteries.
Assuming this takes off, and they're really good at optimizing mass production. I would expect that a 1 Watt nuke-powercell for consumer items will cost at least 50-100 bucks. And it'll be something that comes in a standardized size, that people slot into their electronic devices (which will not ship with it). And people will consider it a precious item that'll last them for many devices, like a nice quality charging-brick. There will be no problem to recycle these either. It's made of valuable materials. Also the betavolt battery in OP, uses a radioactive nickel-63 isotope that decays into a stable(not radioactive) isotope of copper. So even if people throw them out, it'll just be a waste of copper.

>>12872
It's fucking dogshit that instead of competing companies lock people into their shit and force it on them. I hope that guy wins his case.

> people might get red-pilled because socialism has full personal property rights

I think if you can nudge people in that direction they can connect the dots that this is just another thing in the long line of bullshit that all companies basically try to or end up doing. And they might recognize late stage capitalism as a thing.

But I don't get how to explain to people, even if they agree that late stage capitalism sucks, that socialism is the answer. Like they either already think that or they aren't going to listen lol.

>>12890
>It's fucking dogshit that instead of competing companies lock people into their shit and force it on them. I hope that guy wins his case.
I think this story had a happy end, and the company changed its mind.
<Takedown Story
<Haier sent a takedown notice and threatened legal action. The community started a big riot and called for a Haier boycott, the repository was forked over 2000+ times to make the code undeletable. Haier was made to rethink and plans to support the integration.
https://github.com/Andre0512/hon

>I think if you can nudge people in that direction they can connect the dots that this is just another thing in the long line of bullshit that all companies basically try to or end up doing. And they might recognize late stage capitalism as a thing.
>But I don't get how to explain to people, even if they agree that late stage capitalism sucks, that socialism is the answer. Like they either already think that or they aren't going to listen
I guess most people think that companies can be nudged towards being less shitty. Sometimes it works, like it appears to have this time.

It does look like the trend for "enshitification" is irreversable.
If it becomes impossible to control your technology under capitalism that's probably when people will begin to listen to ideas of fundamentally changing the system.

>>12830
>we already have free aka libre software which goes a lot further
The point of the GPL is to keep open source code open.

The point of this new thing is more like "I'm too lazy/incompetent to build a business on this code I wrote but if somebody else figures out how to make money with it then I want a cut of your profits". It's the software equivalent of being a landlord essentially.

>>12832
>I have no idea what possessed grey beards to toil under the BSD cuck license
Dude you're the one who thinks that under communism everyone will voluntarily work for free.

>>12839
>The point of the GPL is to keep open source code open.
I agree with that.

>The point of this new thing is the software equivalent of being a landlord.
You're not wrong, but open landlord software might still be better than proprietary software. Assuming they publish sources, allow libre forking/redistribution, as well as make it free for non-commercial use. If people choose to publish under an open landlord software license over a proprietary license, that might still count as a win.

>Dude you're the one who thinks that under communism everyone will voluntarily work for free.
I'm not that dude, and i don't disagree with you, but i would like to add nuance. In higher stage socialism when it's basically impossible to suffer any unmet material needs. People will work towards self-realization goals. Star trek got that part mostly correct.

I am very much looking forward to the day when there no longer exist any humans willing to take people like Bruce Perens and Eric Raymond seriously.

>>12839
>Dude you're the one who thinks that under communism everyone will voluntarily work for free.
<Implying not paying anything to the actively exploited proles isn't the ideal state of production for the leading class of capitalist class system
kys

Not even gonna ask why would you do anything only if you get something in return. It's not like you've always lived under constant shortages of goods anyway, is it?

>>12885
>Implying not paying anything to the actively exploited proles isn't the ideal state of production for the leading class of capitalist class system
Is that supposed to be english?

>kys
Adding a communist flag to your post doesn't give you a license to be a shitty person.

Fuck u 🖕

>>12850
Still FUD. Mostly.

Here's the thing: even if there is legitimately too much data being sent to matrix.org from using the element app, the whole thing is still open source, so you can run your own app, your own server, and have it be secure as far as anyone can make anything secure. And that is the state of it today.

I am a bit concerned about their connections to Israel however.

Holy fuck element just locked the issue for the most requested feature of having multiple account support. What a bunch of faggots

https://github.com/element-hq/element-web/issues/2320#issuecomment-1885852306

>>12803

Most of your requirement are met by simplex.chat
Enjoy!

>>12870
How come I haven't heard of this before? It's self hosted, and seems like it might be more stable than element. I wonder if you can use it to send files?

schmlomo ur mom

>>12856
>I think you're right in the very long term but soooooo many private interests rely on intellectual property enforcement that it won't happen anytime soon.
The copy monopoly crap is a net negative for most businesses, because it is primarily a legalistic weapon designed for law-fare to be waged by large monopolists. The groups that benefit are powerfull but they are not "soooooo many". Also it definitely is not a form of property, not even in bourgeois ideology. If you read the bourgeois legal definitions, those call it a "state granted monopoly"

>We're starting to see cracks, like Disney not extending the copyright on "Steamboat Willie" but we are no where near the dismantling of copyright AI needs to thrive.
It's hard to tell how quick/slow the transformation will be. AI progression might go slow and incrementally, but it could also be rapid. I guess it kinda depends on how quickly the constraining factors can be optimized. Consider that you as a human didn't have to read hundreds of millions of books and webpages, to be able to formulate a coherent reply to a text query. People who can draw nice pictures didn't have to look at millions of pictures to learn how. So it stands to reason that the AI training algorithms still have a huge optimization potential.

I'm kinda uncertain about Disney's agency in all of this. Did they have the power to extend the copy-monopoly on Steamboat Willie, but decided not to do so. Or was it that they no longer had the power to do it. After-all they did try and fail to copy-censor some of the public-domain uses of it.

Somebody made an AI George Carlin
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=2kONMe7YnO8

For comparison Here's an actual recording of George Carlin
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=ysHIPxbdDno

I'm spoilering my commentary in case you want to form your own opinion first.

I wanted to like this, because i was hoping that it might keep brilliant minds sort off available after they passed away fucking died. But it didn't really capture the magic, the AI version is severely neutered ideology-wise and lacks the pointed language compared to the actual guy. The AI version doesn't mimic Carlin's distinctive facial expressions, but I won't hold that against them since many people will only listen to the audio anyway. There are a few chuckles in there, so if this stuff really was entirely AI generated, that's still very impressive from a technical perspective.

I get the impression that they intentionally watered down AI-Carlin. At that point why bother with an AI resurrection. This feels like when People tried to "fix" old books in re-released versions.

>>12857
>they are becoming a powerful interest group that will push back against the copy monopoly terror

They will not, and will in fact be the worst perpetrator yet seen

>If you know more about the AI-Theil connection please share.

The modern right wing fascist movement is a direct result of theil. he is so influencial in the world of silicon valley, VCs and such, y combinator. He is a manipulative psycho who basically wants to establish himself and his class as a permanent ruling aristocracy. If you have come across far right media in the last ten years, it will be tied to theils money. For example the bronze age pervert book was propped up and distributed by theil. he's trying hard to make fascism cool and artsy currently. regardless, he is a fucking demon that wants to control everyone and everything and essentially create hell for anyone who isnt a billionaire. the worst part is that he is legitimately very smart, just evil, so he's extremely dangerous. If you dig around, you'll find him trying to accelerate everything that makes our lives worse.

>>12866
>They will not, and will in fact be the worst perpetrator yet seen
Do you mean to say Ai companies will do more copy-monopoly impositions ?

I very much doubt that. Copy-monopolies only work for static data. The Ai systems aren't static, the training data sets, the model weights, and so on, all of it is in continuous flux. There's nothing in there that is fixed enough to turn it into a definable "legal object".

These generative AIs have a processing step that uses randomized noise, so even identical instances of an AI system are unlikely to produce identical results. If you try to apply copy-monopoly logic to this, you'd get a mad competition to copy-rape all the things. For example Amazon would be using it's large array of cloud computers to generate every possible book, that is somewhat coherent text. Anybody who tries to author a new book, gets told "F.U. already generated and copy-raped". Not just books, ALL forms of expression would become copy-monopoly infringement. Copy-monopolies would become too absurd to continue existing.

If I were trying to make a AI company that i.d.k draws pictures for example. I wouldn't download all the images from DeviantArt and then computationally brute-force those. It works well enough but it's not the best method. You hire a painter, to paint something from a photo. And you feed the Ai system with the data about their graphic-tablet-inputs and their gaze (which part of the photo they focus their attention on). Then you only need to apply brute force-processing on tiny chunks of an image. Instead of using tens of gigabytes of RAM-memory you use hundreds of megabytes of CACHE-memory. Which is much faster and lower on power consumption. The "chunking method" also needs smaller training data-sets. But it requires you to hire people and strap them into a fancy set-up in order to make them "teach" the AI system the entire step by step process of painting a picture, instead of just showing it the final result. With this optimization you can condense a "AI-thing" into a reasonably priced pcie-card, with a relatively low power consumption and sell it as a commodity. Artists and everybody else who inputs "intelligence chunks" would become wage-workers in a factory, that make pieces of silicon that are "a skill in a can". Over time the many dedicated chips get consolidatePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>12866
>Theil is a manipulative psycho who basically wants to establish himself and his class as a permanent ruling aristocracy.
>he is a fucking demon that wants to control everyone and everything and essentially create hell for anyone who isnt a billionaire.
True but that's always been the goal of any ruling class.
The question is whether a "tech-monarchy" is really viable ?
The world is a big place, that also will contain "classical capitalist" economies. The last time the capitalists out-competed the monarchs. If China or some other country manages to reach a higher socialist mode of production, that'll blow past both of those.

>the worst part is that he is legitimately very smart, just evil
So he's intelligent, except for the youth snake-oil bullshit he fell for ?

>If you dig around, you'll find him trying to accelerate everything that makes our lives worse.
He invested in Palantir the data mining company with links to the CIA. Do you mean that ?