No.12803
Hello people. I'm looking for an instant messenger which satisfies most of those needs:
Anonymous, private & secure [decentralised, encrypted & safe] (Hard necessary)
Audio & video calls [configure volume, deafen, mute, select camera/screen/window & support for group chats] (If there is an app which satisfies most other needs but does not have audio/video, I might do fine just using Jitsi instead, so it's mid-necessary.)
Clean, fast, professional, responsive & smooth design (Can also go with terminal)
Cross-platform [android, linux & windows] (Hard necessary)
File transfer [no limits] (Hard necessary)
Free & open source (Hard necessary)
Group chats [customisation & moderation] (Hard necessary)
History [clear, search system] (Favorable, but not necessary)
Notifications [togglable] (Favorable, but not necessary)
Presence [do not disturb, online, idle] (Favorable, but not necessary)
Stable & optimised [performant & lightweight] (Hard necessary)
Status [media & text] (Favorable, but not necessary)
Folders [contacts & groups] (Favorable, but not necessary)
Text messaging [block, delete, edit, embed, emoji, format, mark as unread, mention, mute, show typing, pin message/user, quote, react, read receipts, reply, saved messages, spell checker, etcetera] (Not all those features listed are hard necessary)
I'm just looking for an alternative to fbi.gov, there has to be no ZOG crap, that's the first need listed.
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No.12804
>>12803>File transfer [no limits] (Hard necessary)Whatcha' uploadin' buddy?
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No.12805
Tox meets most of your demands.
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No.12806
>>12804Maybe he just wants it to be future-proof. You know when people will send you a funny Meme-Ai that's a leisurely 10 gigs. To not be that guy that predicts that nobody will ever find use for more than a 640KB floppy disk.
>>12805OP has pretty tough demands, if this Tox program you talk about can deliver on most of that, that's gotta be really good.
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No.12807
I use conversations because I have xmpp texting so that is what I would recommend. You can use multiple protocols on it.
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No.12808
Matrix is the only really viable option
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No.12809
I like everything about Jitsi Meet except the fact that it's trapped in a web browser.
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No.12810
>>12809I once sent someone a jitsi meet link to a client I was going to do some work for and it didn't work for us. I use Linux and they have a Macbook. We ended up using google meet because we both already have a gmail account.
I like open source but I'm tired of making excuses for shit not working. It can't be that hard, skype has existed since 2003.
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No.12811
>>12810What about it didn't work?
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No.12812
>>12811I forget the details but I was trying to share my screen and the other party couldn't see anything. I don't remember if voice worked or not.
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No.12815
Tbh I mostly chat on Urbit. It doesn't have forward secrecy yet, but they're working on it. Although, my Urbit preference has nothing to do with most of the reasons OP listed.
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No.12816
>>12808Matrix isn't a private or secure platform, it's literally BUILT for datamining. Also it sucks
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No.12817
>>12816Quite an assertion. Elaborate.
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No.12819
>>12816It's open source and has end-to-end encryption
despite being annoying to use sometimes, it was AFAIK marketed to some military at one point as a secure communication tool. You can always just host your own homeserver and turn off federation for total privacy. Stop spreading FUD
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No.12820
>>12818>It's pretty decent.Nah, it's broken.
See
https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426
>XMPP>Encrypting your messages is a full blown CBT and there are literally two usable clients, both are bloated as fuck.What about Dino? it supports even voip encryption with srtp.
Also, what about NextCloud Talk?
https://nextcloud.com/talk/You would need to self-host anyway.
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No.12851
>>12850Still FUD. Mostly.
Here's the thing: even if there is legitimately too much data being sent to matrix.org from using the element app, the whole thing is still open source, so you can run your own app, your own server, and have it be secure as far as anyone can make anything secure. And that is the state of it today.
I am a bit concerned about their connections to Israel however.
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No.12870
>>12803 Most of your requirement are met by simplex.chat
Enjoy!
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No.12871
>>12870How come I haven't heard of this before? It's self hosted, and seems like it might be more stable than element. I wonder if you can use it to send files?
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No.12873
schmlomo ur mom