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 No.13159[Reply]

https://archive.is/Qt0n1
So it seems a US court has just ruled that Google monopolized the online search market. Now the Department of Justice is "considering" breaking up Google as a potential option in response.

At long last is there finally some hope for the future of the web?
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 No.13160

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I doubt the whores in the DOJ will ever break up any sort of monopoly in this day and age, but a possible outcome that intrigues me is that Google could be forced to stop funding Mozilla through search engine deals. Either Mozilla would no longer be controlled opposition and be forced to pursue their original mission again, or they'll die immediately without being propped up by Google money. Either would be good, because if the latter happened Google would become such an undeniable monopoly in the browser market that regulators would be forced to intervene.
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 No.13161

>>13160
Even if they did break up google the damage is done at this point. Those spinless vaginas let google run around for decades pulling their bullshit letting them force everyone to use their shitty browser on their shitty smart phones.
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 No.13162

>>13159
If you want to fix the web, you need to add automatic back-links to the html protocol. Meaning that if somebody links to a website, that website will add a back-link to a list at the bottom of the site. That way the web becomes "traversable by foot" or explorable. This would make it possible to stumble across content that you can't find with web-search anymore. Web-search got ruined by Search-Engine-Optimization (SEO) gaming the system. I don't know if breaking google's strangle-hold on search would fix this. It might be harder to do SEO if there's multiple big search providers, but i'm not sure.

What google did wrong, was the way they did advertisements. They profile people and than try to shove ads in their faces that are relevant to that person. But that is completely backwards, because it usually means displaying information that is not related to the content in the web-page.

If somebody tries to read a webpage about dinosaurs, everything not related to dinosaurs means interrupting the mental flow. It feels like a asinine rude person yelling at you to break your concentration while you are trying to read something. That's the reason why add-blocking has turned into a holy mission. https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=N-MMYihUwyI

Advertisement systems should analyze the content of a web-page and then display adds relevant to the content. That way adds would not be rude mental intrusions, and more people would accept it. It also means that there is no reason to run client-side scripts to profile people, which means that the privacy and security problems in online-advertisement go away too.

Google is also fucking with browser standards, those should be neutral, but big G is putting the thumb on the scale. For example, they try to bully everybody to use the webp picture format, instead of the much better jpegxl, or recently they have begun screwing with browser extension support.

I don't know the politics behind this development, will we get neutral browser standards, content-aware adds instead of user-profile adds, and perhaps back-links to bypass SEO-shitfuckery ?


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 No.13157[Reply]

>300 torrents
>18 terabytes were seeded
>4 of them thanks 2 fallout new vegas
Is this truly so over for people rn?
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 No.13158

fuck wrong board i guess kms rn


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 No.13115[Reply]

Back when they were making 200-300k a year if you mentioned unionizing they would laugh and scoff and snub all the proles. They saw anyone making a normal prole wage as subhuman.

Now that porky decides theyve forgotten their place and lays them off, they have no savings left, and no jobs like every other prole they come crawling back and start talking about unionizing.

Tech workers are class traitors, barely different from cops. Its a great time to see them get crushed and experience the poverty they thought they were so immune to. Their demographic is literally typical smug atheist centrist libs, let them burn

This. Find an apolitical woman from a conservative family that way you make sure her core values are in the right place. Ideally working class. Then you introduce her to communism as an strictly political ideology keep her away from libshittery at all costs. You'd be surprised how much she will relate to it.
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 No.13137

>>13125
>You can book a plane ticket to Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea right now if you wanted to.
I can't just go on vacation, I have work on Monday.

Also North Korea doesn't just give out citizens to randos, if you mean immigrating there.
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 No.13148

>>13126
>I don't see anything else in terms of economic theory
And how many have you looked at? I don't know you but you really sound like a fundie who thinks the bible is true because it's the only book he's read.

>The highest returns are on wallstreet

That's because they are close to the money spigots. Money is not real. The federal reserve adds money to the economy in order to centrally plan the market according to political interests. Banks and hedge funds and the stock market in general is one way the new money is transferred into the economy. And the people who work in those industries take a cut of the money passing through and use it to buy up hard assets like real estate before the extra money pushes prices up. That's the real reason you can't afford a house.

>the second highest go to arms dealers

The second way that new money is injected into the economy is through government spending. The government creates bonds or gilts out of thin air and exchanges them for money the central bank created out of thin air. The government then spends the fake money on real shit that is relevant to their interests. Like weapons.

>the capitalists who make the most profits don't produce anything

The people who print money out of thin air and use it to centrally plan the economy are not "capitalists". Central banking is part of Marx's communist manifesto. Throwing central bankers out of a helicopter because they're communists is part of Kiyosaki's capitalist manifesto.

>used to be a satirical comment to mock attempts at polishing a turd

I don't see any argument here. You just take it on faith that "inequality" is bad or "capitalism" is inefficient but you don't have any arguments to back it up.
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 No.13149

>>13148
>And how many have you looked at?
I went by process of elimination.
First thing i did was eliminate the loony theories like praxology that don't explain shit.
Second thing that got eliminated was theories that assumed market equilibrium, it's obviously not in equilibrium, so those theories contradict reality.
Third round of elimination was every theory that tried assign a beneficial purpose to the boom-recession cycle. Having an economy that behaves like a mental patient with severe bi-polar disorder isn't beneficial. If you want a machine analogy a boom is a feed-back-loop that builds up an overload, and the recession is a cascade failure. Theories that try to gaslight you into thinking that's a good thing are obviously not applicable. Then i was left with Marxism.

>I don't know you but you really sound like a fundie who thinks the bible is true because it's the only book he's read.

I don't treat it like a orthodox holy scripture. Marx is wrong about the tendency for profit equalization, that doesn't happen. That's been fixed by other marxists who corrected Marx's theories with a tendency for demographic decline caused by the rise in the rate of exploitation.

>That's because they are close to the money spigots. Money is not real. The federal reserve adds money to the economy in order to centrally plan the market according to political interests. Banks and hedge funds and the stock market in general is one way the new money is transferred into the economy. And the people who work in those industries take a cut of the money passing through

I mostly agree with this, but i just see monopoly power extracting rent. Capitalist monopolies do get destroyed sometimes and then they grow back in a different form. That's what this is, it's not set up like historic monopolies, but it still is the old phenomenon.

>The people who print money out of thin air and use it to centrally plan the economy are not "capitalists". Central banking is part of Marx's communist manifesto. Throwing central bankers out of a helicopter because they're communists is part of Kiyosaki's capitalist manifesto.

I think the redeeming quality of Central banks is that they can curtail the reach of multinational corporate superPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13152

>>13149
>Marx is wrong about the tendency for profit equalization
Are you the same blowhard who ghosted me in the book thread. Go and respond there instead.
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 No.13153

>>13152
You said
<a fundie who thinks the bible is true because it's the only book he's read.
in your previous post

There are a few "textual" Marxists, who are not religious fundies by any stretch, but they do care more about reading the contents of marx's books than treating Marxism like a more scientific discipline that does empirical reality-checks from time to time. An example would be the TSSI marxists, they have something called temporal pricing that is supposed to rescue marx's profit equalization tendency. To me it always sounded like mental gymnastics for the sake of treating Marx as infallible.

The reason for bringing this up, is because the accusation you made, would not be entirely wrong, with regards to the textual wing of Marxism. I'm on the more scientific wing of Marxism, that does throw out elements of marx's original theory that didn't pan out.

This is a rather academic dispute within Marxism and i realize that you probably didn't even know about it. Anyway, now you know why this hole profit equalization topic came up.


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 No.13147[Reply]

same guy who posted this:
https://leftychan.net/tech/res/12471.html

i deleted all of the archives i have. none of you have to worry that anything from this site is sitting is somebody's computer. all gone. all of the stupid bad compas-dichotomy-isms are now gone for good. nobody have to worry.
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 No.13150

>>13147
Glad you're back.

>none of you have to worry that anything from this site is sitting is somebody's computer

I wasn't worried anon, archiving content is generally a good thing.

What made you get rid of it?
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 No.13151

>>13150
first, mental-illness madness. second, I don't want future people to know what an (insert name)-ism or what a "compass" is


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 No.13141[Reply]

Why is the Linux desktop still such a fucking ghetto? They rewrite their crap every couple of years but it's getting shittier every time.
linux is just the project car version of mac os

I'm tired of this bullshit.
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 No.13142

>>13141
The Linux desktop is currently replacing the old display-server X11 with the new one Wayland.
I think X11 might be something like 40 years old and predates linux. So it's not like "crap" gets rewritten every couple of years.

>it's getting shittier every time.

A lot of stuff has to be adapted to the new display server, and that's causing some transitional bugs. But if you compare it to windows, it's looking pretty good.

>linux is just the project car version of mac os

Not really comparable, Linux is very modular, runs an pretty much any hardware, while macos is monolithic and only runs on a very small hardware selection.
Apple probably wants to kill off macos and convert their entire product-line to ios. If you want any of the power-user features you will need to think different or switch to linux.
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 No.13143

Xfce and LXDE are working great for me, dunno what you're talking about…
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 No.13144

Because real ones use I3/DWM
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 No.13145

>>13141
speaking from a programmer's perspective, there is no reliable API or good low level library for graphics on Linux. The only "solution" libraries are bloated, hacked together and incredibly complex.

Both GTK and QT are poor solutions to a lack of a consistent and sensible graphics API. Even expert GTK programmers hate GTK.
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 No.13146

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>>13141
Have you tried not using the latest gnomeslop? Why would you need anything more than XClock and a couple of XTerms? FVWM is 90s yet it's still the most advanced desktop. Unironically the only progress happening during the last decade was shoving inane freedesktop standards into every system component and making everything a mobile UI.


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 No.13057[Reply]

FUCK YOU MOZILLA!

YOU PROBABLY SABOTAGE YOUR OWN PRODUCTS YOU FUCKING FEDS

WHAT IS THIS SHITT????
WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE SUCH FUCKING GARBAGE AND BECOME MORE AND MORE SHIT BY THE MINUTE, HUH?

ON THIS STUPID GOD DAMN APPLICATION CALLED FIRE FUCK-OFF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE WHICH OF THESE GOD DAMN TABS IS ACTIVE!!!!
THEY"RE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING COLOR AAAAAAHHHHHAHGGGHG HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO USE THIS SHIT!! FUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKETR;OLJDFGVJNASDF

WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO GO INTO THE SETTINGS AND CHANAGE THE THEME JUST TO SEE WHAT FUCKING TAB I"M ON HUUUUUGGGGHHHH??

FUCK YOU COCKSUCKERS!!! IT WAS FUCKING FINE. OKAY!? IT WAS FINE AND YOU MAKE IT MORE SHIT WITH EACH ITERATION!!
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 No.13062

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>>13061
THEY DON'T EVEN USE GITHUB FOR THEIR FUCKING SHIT THEY ONLY USE B-B-B-BUGZILLA AND ITS THE GAYEST SHIT IN THE WORLD I SWEAR TO GODDDD THIS IS SUCH BULLSHIT!!@=
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 No.13063

If you're not using Palemoon at this point you must be oblivious. Google has been the largest donor to Mozilla for over a decade and their directors get paid giant salaries to destroy their own browser. And when they're not doing that, they've basically functioning as a money laundering operation–a non-profit donating to a ton of other orgs instead of using their fucking money to pay programmers.
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 No.13064

>>13063
p*lefag is the same fucktardation led by furryshits who are openly hostile to privacy. They even publicly mock people for being pissed about it. Fuck these faggots too.
Btw didn't these fags also sell out on basically all their browser philosophy points already?
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 No.13068

>>13064
No, take your meds.
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 No.13118

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>>13057
ok honestly FF is the best browser but only if you put in the legwork. You're gonna need to do >>13059 then setup a custom css file to remove horizontal tabs, you can also use this to change anything else you want including colors, then install a user.js file to completely de-cuck firefox from all it's garbage google spy pocket shit.(betterfox, narsil, arkenfox, etc) You can make it perfect but you have to kind of work for it. You have to remember google pays them millions of dollars to self sabotage themselves so it's an uphill battle using them.


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 No.13087[Reply]

Hello lads. I was recently released from prison, come home to find I do not know where to lurk anymoar. I used to hang out on lainchan and 8chan. Reincarnations of both are still around but they have changed quite a bit.


I don't want consoymerism threads. I just want to know where the similar faggots are gathering these days. I know that there are people like me too stubborn to give up on this so I'm sure they are all congregating somewhere in a virtual valhalla. I've tried here for a few days but this is too fringe for my liking although I may share your politics.

Any advice appreciated
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 No.13108

>>13107
No. The full list right now is:
alogs.space
anon.garden
erischan.org
junkuchan.org
prolikewoah.com
smuglo.li
trashchan.xyz
tvch.moe
zzzchan.xyz

leftypol.org threw around the idea of joining in late 2021, but there was a lot of backlash from both sides of the fence. Obviously it's not the same situation as leftychan (disproportionate userbase at the time, for one, isn't a major factor)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240315000728/https://anon.cafe/meta/res/14926.html
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 No.13109

>>13108
>there was a lot of backlash from both sides of the fence
I don't remember much backlash from our side of the fence. The cries of "pls no politics ;_;7" in that cafe thread are pretty funny though, considering pretty much all of the webring boards are polluted with obnoxious /pol/ fuckers who can't keep their politics out of apolitical boards.
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 No.13110

>>13109
Yeah it's pretty funny that the site hosting /fascist/ (most active board on the site at the time) had someone seriously trying to say 'no politics in the webring pls'. Not to mention the popular board /dup/.
I wonder if it was dissonance or just plain old insincerity.
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 No.13112

>>13105
tech was the only board i cared about, the managers of that board fucked it so hard it was in limbo for months after the reboot which was valuable time to make a bunker or send everyone somewhere else officially. This never happened and here we are. I couldn't give less of a fuck about politics, everyonbe is always trying to shoehorn their off-topic beliefs into pretty much everywhere they go, tech was hostile enough to tell you to shut the fuck up reguardless of which garbage someone thought was so much more imprtant than the board subject and that's what made them special.
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 No.13113

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>>13112
Once I found lainchan, I never looked back. /tech/ was filled with 8chins crying about trans and coc all day. I checked it daily but can't say I miss it.


 No.12970[Reply]

The brain chip company has successfully implanted a brain chip into a person. It's a paraplegic and this allows this person to thought-control their wheel-chair and even do high fidelity computer inputs (good enough for playing games)

At this time the brain chip is one way communication only, only relaying thought-commands from the brain to external devices, but nothing flows back into the brain. But if this thing is going to become the tech that fixes most handicaps it will have to become 2 way communication. And there are serious worries about it becoming a attack vector for brain-hacking. If brain chips were free open source technology, protected by a very diligent community, and absolute brain privacy was vigorously enforced (as in death penalty for brain privacy violations), that probably would mitigate risks enough though.

For able people this promises hands-free computing. I suspect people would not undergo brain surgery to get this unless they need it to fix a handicap. Because of the medical risks and it eventually turning into obsolete e-waste rattling in your skull.

This thing uses thousands of wires connected to electrodes directly stuck inside the brain. So people who have this implanted, probably become vulnerable to electromagnetic fields. Getting an MRI scan is probably off the table. Humans generally are not affected by magnetic fields, even extremely powerful ones. Hence why there is lots of technological EM in the human environment. People who get the brain chip would have to be even more careful than those who have a pacemaker. Nukes produce a big EM pulse, so the brain-chipped people will die first in WW3. Safety wise this really would benefit from optical data links that electrically isolate the brain.

Whats the real world application going to be ?
My hunch is it'll get used for medical and military purposes (soldiers thinking what their shoulder cannon shoots at)
If the functionality can be replicated with a wearable headband/cap it might enter general use, but if it's surgical implants only, it'll remain a niche.

vid not related
https://farside.link/invidious/watch?v=d4po_OK_w4I
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 No.13085

>This thing uses thousands of wires connected to electrodes directly stuck inside the brain.

So we should expect the same problem of the body forming scar tissue around the foreign body and attenuating the signal fed to the electrodes that occurred the last however many times this was tried.

No real breakthrough here, just PR hype.
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 No.13086

>>13085
>So we should expect the same problem of the body forming scar tissue around the foreign body and attenuating the signal fed to the electrodes that occurred the last however many times this was tried.
That's a good point.

>No real breakthrough here, just PR hype.

Yeah i guess to get around the scarring issue they'd have to find a way to measure the electrical pulses in the brain without contact. But these pulses are extremely faint and make hardly any detectable EM fields. Dis a tough one


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 No.13075[Reply]

generative ML software
-generative machine learning software will kill off the copyright-restriction lobby
Media creation will become cheap and abundant, restricting access to content will become self defeating. SO called IP will seize to be capital, the new capital will be the chip-plants and power-plants. Small artists will benefit the most, these new tools will allow individuals and small teams to create very sophisticated content that previously was only doable for large companies.
-Copy restrictions are the most destructive in the pharmaceutical field because they prevent people from getting medicine, and globally this leads to the involuntary slaughter of tens of millions of people every year. I would expect a similar dynamic from computationally brute-forcing candidates for molecules with medical properties and a explosion of cheap generica.
-it will become so easy to make fake surveillance-recordings and digital-records that all kinds of video, audio and digital records will be downgraded from forensic evidence to testimonial evidence.

AI-stalking
-The so called "client-side csam-scanning" scheme will backfire spectacularly, because AI image-recognition and image-generation are very similar, and one can be turned into the other. AI-stalking is deployed like regular malware, the attacker injects a payload into the victims computer to exfiltrate data. Big tech like Apple or the EU Thorn-surveillance group (responsible for chat-control), are pushing to infect a gazillion smartphones with this crud. They will end up spreading a pedo-porn-generator far and wide. The think of the children political deception will die with this one.
-meat-space surveillance with cameras that recognize peoples faces will turn into a gang-violence bonanza. While the meat-space mafia is generally stupid with mediocre tech skills, they will eventually figure out how to wear "other people's faces". Public safety will nose-dive and the fashion trends will get surreal with women wearing face-curtain-hair and men growing up-beards that go from the chin to the forehead.
Everything eventually turns into it's opposite. Something something dialectical.

surveillance capitalism
-People'll use AI to generated loads of data, personal profiling will eventually die because the data becomes diluted with ai-slop. Data-brokers will also usePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.13076

OP if I may be frank with you a bit about image board etiquette. When you create threads with gigantic OPs like this on a slow board, although you probably think you're doing a good thing by creating a bunch of thoughtful content to help the board along… The reality is in fact the opposite. It's actually intimidating to other posters, who feel like they need to measure up to the amount of writing or the quantity of topics covered in the OP in order to contribute, and the real tendency is that big essays don't actually generate discussions at all. I have seen this play out many, many times in the years of image boards under my belt.

My suggestion is to keep OPs simple and open, and if you feel like you really have something to say do it in a subsequent post.
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 No.13079

>>13075
>Machines that have the same shape as a human worker, are still a solution in search for a problem
Everyone wants a robot waifu gf, there's definitely a market for a decent one.
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 No.13080

>>13079
>Everyone wants a robot waifu gf
Sure, but you won't get a wholesome "robot waifu gf", they'll produce "robot whores" that make you buy into an expensive subscription model. Even if you pay all that, it'll still interrupt the sex to tell you about products and services from companies that participate in the third-party sex-vertisement program.
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 No.13082

>>13080
>it'll still interrupt the sex to tell you about products and services from companies that participate in the third-party sex-vertisement program
Dang, these sex robots are already more human than humen!
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 No.13083

>>13076
So it would have been better to split this into half a dozen separate threads instead ?

Even if that's like having a bunch of threads with kinda similar topics ?


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 No.12110[Reply]

So apparently google is going to attempt force-feeding ads to everybody, including those who really really don't want it, and they will try to break ad-blocker functionality. Many people think that there will be a war on ad-blocking.
Here is a short recap from a tech-channel that's pretty black-pilled about the future of technical work-arounds to ads.
https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=oQL9dVsEXT0

I think it's unreasonable to accept adds because they represent a security risk, because ads load random executable code on your computer. Ads also tend to infringe on privacy by data mining and tracking people. Adds have become crazy intrusive which probably is bad for your mental health, and use too much bandwidth and compute resources. Going online without ad-blockers is the technical equivalent to having unprotected sex with a hooker in a failed state where 30% of the population is infected with an incurable STD.

The tech-porkies will want subscription for freedom from ads, but:
Subscriptions suck in general because it's paying without getting ownership in return, which is a bad deal.
It'll be too expensive for many people who can't afford the paywall and still need another way to protect them selves.
Those platforms are not politically neutral, you'd expect that if you have to pay that you get unfiltered access, but they probably won't do that.

Many fear that if this spreads beyond the googstuff like YouTube, it will become a nightmare to manage a bazillion subscriptions even for those that are loaded enough to afford it. It could create even more walled-garden type distribution monopoly platforms, because the average person probably can't manage more than a handful of subscriptions and that will cause consolidation into a few distribution gate-keepers.

My questions:
1. Will there be a new type of adblock as a technical-fix that will overcome all the attempts of undoing ad-blocks, and all the black-pilled people are wrong ? Will there be new programs that can separate the content from the ads, what will that look like ? ad-blocking is human species being and nothing can prevent it
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 No.12726

>>12725
It seems so. Tho keep in mind it's very difficult to predict what laws mean for a layperson.

Many people think that Youtube is doing this because they're not making enough money with adds to break even on platform costs. My guess is that add-revenue is probably shrinking because most people have less disposable income (because wealth inequality is growing), and rich people spend a much smaller share of their income on commodity purchases, so all of those adds are chasing a piece of a shrinking pie. It looks like we're winning this round, but this is probably going to come back in some other form.
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 No.12769

google's add crusaders have come up with a new scheme.

They want to remove the ability of adblockes to update their block-lists independently from the entire add-on. Which means instead of daily updated block-lists, it might take upto 2 weeks, that delay will probably make them alot less effective.

I predict that Firefox will regain popularity, and some ad-blockers might actually become there own browser.
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 No.13077

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Youtube is now trying to inject adds directly into the video stream.

That means that they will cut the actual video at a key-frame and then splice in the add video. The nature of video compression makes it so that it requires computationally expensive re-encoding if the splicing were to occur at a non-key-frame. Key-frames usually happen at one second intervals.

Since users get targeted add videos, that means in order to find the adds one only needs to compare two streams. The add will be what's different in the 2 streams, while the actual video will be whats the same.

This video stream comparison can be done very efficiently because it only requires looking at key-frames in an interval that is short enough to avoid accidentally skipping over an add. It's enough to compare a random sample of pixels every 10 seconds or so. Once a statistically significant divergence is detected, you found a key-frame that belonged to the add. The next step is to sample all the key-frames in front and behind of the divergence match to find the exact beginning and end of the add.

It's also possible to just compare the bit-rate of two streams, videos usually use variable bitrates to optimize compression, that is even less computationally challenging, although it is less robust and will produce occasional errors.

The same principles can also be used with audio and potentially subtitles.

If the Adds are placed in random locations for different users, it will require segmented comparison, which is a variation on a theme of what i have already described. The segments present in both streams are the actual videos the segments not present in both streams are the add.

Youtube could also try to fuck with colors, video speed, or do "poisoned" pixels, and that's why i sugested to use statistical matching, that does allow for correct detection even if there is some variation.
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 No.13078

>>13077
This will completely break timestamps.

There is also no open platform to move to. And if there was there would have to be a way to pay creators (which is doable). Youtube also has so much content at this point that egress is going to be very painful even if the creators and users were motivated.

>There used to be magnetic tape tv recorders in the 90s that could reliably skip adds in recordings. Those used simple analog circuits that detected the loudness dynamic range compression in add-audio.

That's really cool!
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 No.13081

>>13078
>This will completely break timestamps.
Yes.
Except for people who use adblock, those will all see the same video where all the timestamps will reference the intended part of the video. Which is ironic.

>There is also no open platform to move to. And if there was there would have to be a way to pay creators (which is doable). Youtube also has so much content at this point that egress is going to be very painful even if the creators and users were motivated.

I have my doubts about youtube's model. They are trying to increase their profits by squeezing more add-revenue out of users, when they really should be trying to radically bring down the cost of video hosting. The big data-center model can't be scaled up much beyond the current size and the AI-enabled-video flood is on the horizon.

I think a peer to peer system would have fewer scaling issue. In that systems creators have to host the primary source file, and the peer to peer aspect helps with demand surges. If suddenly a million people want to see the same video, they all have to help share bandwidth. The self hosting of primary files means that nobody can fill up all your servers.

I don't think that there will be an egress from youtube. When the AI video stuff takes off all the data-center platforms will put severe upload limitations in place, and possibly even do pay to upload. That's when something new can emerge.


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