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Incel News Thread
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I didn't miss anything homie.


The state will really throw you in prison if you violate custody orders or don't pay child support, how is that idealist?


Except my whole arugment that proceeded that. You're hopeless I am out of here. You're just being stubborn now.

Because basing your ideology on "It's actually womens fault men are leaving their children!" Is retarded and idealistic and not based on any objective material analysis like capitalism being alienating and making people, including men, hate their lives among making them stupid ignorant retards.


Women have the ability to throw men into debtors' prison and are incentived to do so by child support and welfare.
You're the idealist with bigoted claims that men are doing it because they're irresponsible.
Look we're just going to have to agree to disagree. You're a lib that loves debtors' prison and has fash tier theories abou men having crime bones, While I believe state violence and economics shape society and peoplR's behavior.


See you keep using all this loaded lanugage like reactionaries do when they talk about gay issues, kek. You arn't even listening you're just jerking yourself off.

I'm out.

> While I believe state violence and economics shape society and peoplR's behavior.

You believe that people have genetic predispositions about greed and finance based on their sex and you are caling me a fascist? This is pure cope.

Marx wasn't against jails retard. What do you think should replace the current system? You can't answer me cause you have no idea. You are just rambling and you have never once actually thought about this.

As I stated it should be heavily reformed but it's the only way to make shitty fathers support their children. Cope seethe and dial8

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im a comfy NEET, do you like to be A neet anon?
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i mean putin also did invade ukraine to keep nato away but he's still a faggot.


Ukraine was nowhere near joining NATO. And now predictable several Nordic countries have joined NATO now making everything worse.
The invasion was always about protecting Russia's only revenue stream, gas and oil.


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This is a lie. Talks were being had about joining NATO which prompted Russia to act.


They got laughed out of the room the last time they brought it up. Also got voted down in 2014.


Another lie. Ukraine has been begging to join NATO for 20 years.
Doesn't matter anyway. The US shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

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reminder that if your penis isn't 6 inches (15 cm) long at the absolute least you're a waste of meat in the eyes of a woman. don't even bother
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i don't make the rules


Women love large cocks, that's the whole point, our cocks are gigantic compared to other primates because evolution went that way.
If nature wanted it like that, then so be it.


Right and these two graphs contradict each other, the first one is implying that 10 and 12 inch are the most preferred size while the second is saying 7 inches is. Don't remain obsessed about your penis friend, it doesn't actually matter, sex is nice and all but it ain't the end all be all.


nobody measures their dick in centimeters


What then? in burgers per square inch?

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Incel humor thread.
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Is the bottom finally starting to fall out from 3rd and 4th wave feminism? Right now bimbos are trending on tik tok and the fully embracing the male gaze growing popular among zoomer women. Along with divine feminism, which is almost an anti-feminism ideology that encourages women to become stay-at-home moms and obedient housewives if they wish to, and assuages their fears about it being demeaning to themselves and women as 3rd and 4th wave feminists are so keen on proselytizing.

One prominent bimbo tiktoker describes the bimbo lifestyle as an "ego death". Where women stop trying to foster masculine traits in themselves and instead cultivate their natural vulnerability, gentleness, and hunger for the sexual desire of men. Bimbos claim these innate traits of most straight women have wrongly been maligned by feminist as naivete, weakness, and subjugation by the patriarchy.

I think women gravitating to the antithesis of feminism is primarily due to the deteriorating economy, having a committed husband or boyfriend is quickly becoming a necessity as it has been throughout most of captialism. And bimbos encapsulate in a extreme manner, the things women have always known men want. I think there's also other converging trends at work.

Millennial women are now hitting middle age in earnest, and zoomer generations are seeing the poisoned harvest of feminism. Many millennial women are alone and miserable as either single mothers, divorcees, or spinsters that were never wed and face a future devoid of companionship.

Women have also gotten to experience capitalist alienation first hand for 60 years and are realizing that as much as a eunuch a housewife can be, it's still far better than being a prole. Zoomer women are realizing what men have always known, that only a small percentage of workers ever find a fulfilling career, everyone else just works to make money until they die.

I think this bimbo trend is the beginning of a wider revolt among zoomer women against feminism. Feminism can no longer hide its failures, and zoomer women cannot be spooked by horror stories of past female oppression like not being able to open checking accounts, since they have no living memory of it. And even if rights like abortion are taken away, modern technology, like the nearly dozen birth control methods that are available now, will mitigate much of the harm and keep zoomer women from reradicalizing. What do you guys think?
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>People didn't have issues finding partners under capitalism until as late as the 1990's
That is only half true. During the period of social democracy capitalism was indeed less harmful to human beings and interfered less with social life. But the way it is today is basically just capitalism returning to the mean. The socdem period was the exception. The hundreds of years of capitalism prior to that, were more similar to today than you might think.

The rest of your post is difficult for me to understand. I don't really understand what you mean with the bimbo vs androgynous dichotomy. I thought that bimbo meant using lots of product like hairspray and make up. How is it related to Sexual dimorphism ?




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>That is only half true. During the period of social democracy capitalism was indeed less harmful to human beings and interfered less with social life.
Dude, people got hitched at near 100% levels back in the Victorian era. The collapse of post WWII social democracy has nothing to do with why there's more incels now.
>The hundreds of years of capitalism prior to that, were more similar to today than you might think.
>I don't really understand what you mean with the bimbo vs androgynous dichotomy. I thought that bimbo meant using lots of product like hairspray and make up. How is it related to Sexual dimorphism ?
Bimbo, at least as the subculture is now, isn't simply a woman that applies too much makeup or wears clothes that are too revealing. It's a woman that solely focuses on being sexually attractive to men, often forgoing what's fashionable and socially acceptable to other women and society at large.

Since feminism posits that men are inherently oppressive of women via patriarchy androgyny, homosexuality and erotophobia are huge themes in this ideology and have since become fixtures in the cultural zeitgeist.

Bimbos are a loud rejection of all that. From their thick dick sucking lips, blonde teased hair, thin waists and big boobs, they are among the most extreme expressions of binary gender conformity.

The aesthetic is maximizing sexual attraction (often to a comical degree) for CIS Men. The garish look is repellent to lesbians and straight women since it's has zero subtlety. It completely demystifies female sexuality and makes it as base as a males, at least to a feminist's eyes. Something men appreciate and women see as being to their determent.

Obviously it's also the real or implied promiscuity of bimbos that anger feminists as well. You see, it's not that bimbos simply having a lot of partners, most modern feminist women also have body counts that are deep into double digit territory. It's that bimbos will sleep with ANY man. Their entire demeanor is again the antithesis of a feminist's. They're passive, speak softly, and are "dumb" or at least faint it and therefore are not challenging to a male's ego. They're also flirty, and submissive as to make it easy as posPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


i'd unironically be pro-feminist if it wasn't led by women. they are the very thing that needs to be fixed and you can't expect them to act abstractly so we get in these loopholes


>Dude, people got hitched at near 100% levels back in the Victorian era.
What makes you think that ?
In the victorian era most people couldn't even afford to rent more than a single room. How could they possibly afford raising a family. Also many people died very young, before they raised a family. You may have a very distorted view of how capitalism was before social democracy. It was truly awful. Neo-liberalism is a path back to that very shitty past.

>Since feminism posits that men are inherently oppressive of women

That's just sexism. Rich Bourgeois women hating on poor working class men. It's just class hatred behind a veil. People like that are really shit, you can go after them specifically, without making it into a conflict between all men and all women. Capitalism ruins everything by changing things into bourgeois versions, that reflect bourgeois class interests. If you look at early socialist feminism, they were just trying to establish man and women as equals, there was no beating each other down. A socialist lady from the early 20th centry called Rosa Luxemburg wrote a long rant about bourgeois feminism, maybe read that.

I'm not going to comment on things i consider sexual preference, that's just a recipe for creating unnecessary conflict.
I will say that strange stuff is going on, like some people appear to be implying that sexual dimorphism is bad for some reason. Maybe we should push back on that a little, because that seems reactionary.

You also have to beware of those that turn filth into theory.
Politics is exclusively about economics, if anybody tries to make politics about sex, they are most likely class traitors that are trying to distract you with sex from their reactionary politics. I think that somebody is trying to trick you to hand over your surplus to capitalists. They are just pretending you'll get a nicer girlfriend that way, but they won't deliver, Capitalism wants to make people atomized so they can turn social relations into commodities, they want to be middlemen for intimacy.

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uhhh, medbros?

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How do I stop myself wanting a gf so badly that it hurts?
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Prostitutes if you can. I was reading some book about a guy in WW1 France talks how the officers were the ones picking up all chicks who were cuckholding their boyfriend's. If you want sex or do not want to be lonely pay for it like men have done for millennial.


humblebrag kys


Simply don't


You're just looking for "grills" in dumb places. Date real women faggot.


Do some self-reflection in a dark room and ask yourself why you're idealizing love/relationshits.

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Fuck rosties.

That is all.
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Fuck em with a crowbar anon.


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This tbh


Is that one of those hammer guns they kill cattle with?


Noo it's a nail gun iirc. Movie is American Psycho, highly recommend.


Would have been better if it was.

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This is Melanie King, a Youtuber that gives dating advice to women. While not obstinately red pilled, her critiques of modern women closely follow those of incel ideology.
That women have a SMV (Sexual Market Value) that declines as they age and or have children, that there are winners and losers in this market (Chads and Betas) and the 80/20 rule, 80% of women are going after the top 20% of men.
I've been seeing more mainstream incel sympathizing, or manosphere channels popping up on YouTube. Which is interesting because around 2014-2015 YouTube waged a fatwa on such content and killed all the traffic and success that early Manosphere content creators were enjoying at the time like Sandman who had something like 100k+ subscribers before the YouTube incel purge.
And you can't ignore that this woman is really attractive, which makes it a lot harder to dismiss her critique as sour grapes. Regardless, such an attractive women publicly espousing Red Pill/Incel ideology would have been unheard of even a few years ago, and now there's an entire echo system .
To be fair to King, she would say that her views of women are informed by her religion, and not incels.
Have you all seen more incel sympathizing median in the mainstream or near mainstream.
I think incels and men's grievance with feminism over all are becoming to big to ignore and are beginning to reach critical mass.
Here's a link to her channel, it's quite well established.
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I think you're navie to think it wasn't always this way.


Idealogies are always based on material conditions. You should be sad that dating got so bad for so many that it spawed these ideologies. Not that the ideolgoies themselves caught on.




Relationships are gamified in some circles of the internet. I feel that living in this hellscape of social conservatism, hegemony of capital, and violence of the state and the minority who controls it are responsible for a hardening of attitudes regarding sexual partnerships.

It becomes a problem to optimize. Solve for optimal sex. Solve for optimal psychological well-being. Solve for career advancement. Solve for properly optimized offspring. It's no different from selecting what institute you will attend after high school, which courses you will take to secure a desired position in society seeking positive outcomes in life.

The woolly free-love kind of romantic concept has been rejected by an increasing number of people who in the face of a hardscrabble world, seek out materially beneficial arrangements. It's not just "incel ideology". Female Dating Strategy (FDS) and associated communities and attitudes are spreading amongst women. It represents the embrace of traditional attitudes towards marriage. Returning to "pragmatism" is not a hard sell when the common folk need to be awful pragmatic about budgets and living arrangements and exploitative working conditions.

Women are a part of the formulation and enforcement of the memes that enslave them in the same way that men are. We are all participants and authors in this game. The thing that makes people like her and the incels so seemingly anachronistic is that the old rules of the game are changing rapidly (via industrialized society and technology), so much so that nobody knows what they are yet and we have yet to reach a stable equilibrium. Think less "evolutionary psychology" and more game theory. They are easy to mix up. Evo-psych just adds bullshit explanations on top and asserts that shit is inherent to our nature because Le Neutral Selekchion. Truthfully it is a game. But as the conditions have changed and the rules are in dispute, there's room right now for a lot of chaotic moves and unorthodox playstyles.

So the best these people have is to hold on to the tried and true rules that got us this far. Played skillfully, even the old meta can stay potent against new and uncoordinated challengers.

Schizo TLDR:
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To making dating sane again you have to abolish child support, circumcisions, legalize porn, sex doll brothels develop a male birth control pill and lift travel restrictions so that men can find brides overseas. Nothing short of this will end the madness.

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Circumcision is a Fraud is Hosting a Web Page with FOIA Documents on Circumcision
Also, circumcision general thread. I think it's male genital mutilation.
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You lucky bitch.
I really wish I had mine still.


I remember playing some Japanese VN and the MC was embarrassed for not being circumcised until he was like 8 weird. Circumcision is disgusting and I was amsused that christian Americans are even doing it (do not they want to be Jews or something the evangelical ones that is?).


From what I've read the internal lining of foreskin is softer than the vaginal walls of a woman.
In essence uncut men have the most sophisticated pocket pussy at their disposal.
I'm uncircumcised and while I'm an incel, I've always felt that I'm way less thirsty than even normies and I accredit it entirely to still having my wrinkly fren.


I think there's treatment options to grow it back.


my mom was based too. that or it's because my dad is Vietnamese. In burgerland it's hard to appreciate until you get older.

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