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 No.1612[Reply]

In one of his vids Cockshott proposed a tax on childless males because they don't contribute to the reproduction of the labor power of society. There is much wrong with this proposition.

First is an economic argument - the obvious preferred solution should be the corresponding increase in productivity to outset the declining population, and not more surplus extraction out of the subset of the population to stimulate higher birth rates.

Second is a moral argument stemming out of the concept of "justice" - people should not be punished for what they have no control over. To hold that men control the means of reproduction and can voluntary decide when to have kids and when not to is to be ignorant of the evidence to the contrary.
Cockshott brings an example of the Soviet Union right after WW2 when the similar policy was implemented. But he fails to understand the specific conditions at the time - a massive disbalance of the male and female populations and a large number of single mothers. To implement the same policy in the conditions of gender balance is unjustifiable - you don't tax paralyzed cripples for not contributing to the reproduction of labor either, do you? Well, some men are the same even if they can walk.
So if you're still gonna tackle the problem of a declining population with more taxes, then the tax should be levied on the general population as do all other taxes that go to the societal needs, or even a higher income section of the population according to the principle of progressive taxation.
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 No.1615

>>1613
>I think this is about people not having children in order to accumulate capital, and restart an economic cycle that could lead back to capitalism.
By not having children they can't pass on their accumulated capital.
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 No.1620

>In one of his vids Cockshott proposed a tax on childless males because they don't contribute to the reproduction of the labor power of society.
Holy shit. Now I want to read this guy
>You don't tax paralyzed cripples for not contributing to the reproduction of labor either
Cels are invalids, confirmed
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 No.1623

>>1620
>Cels are invalids
Yes, sexual invalids.
Incels should get benefits, not be taxed for their disability.

Tax the women who prefer to ride a Chad cock carousel until their eggs shrink - they are the true gatekeepers of the population growth.
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 No.1624

Cockshott just took the feminist pill. He doesn't understand that women are no longer a disenfranchised part of the population. They surpass males in higher education degrees and home ownership now.
He should update his theory according to the objective conditions, not keep droning about "muh whomen" like he did when he was still a student.
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 No.1626

>>1615
>By not having children they can't pass on their accumulated capital.
Well they still can have other extended family outside of a household. There are hardcore people who will fully submit to the brutal rationale of capital and task one part of the family to produce heirs while all the rest gets tasked with accumulating capital. These capital "accumulator-men" could theoretically also donate sperm to a cryogenic sperm bank, and have offspring after the family-clan has gained enough capital to become able to extract wealth from society, even if that's after they passed away.

Cockshott lives in the UK where a lot of really old and very ruthless family clans still hold considerable power. He's probably able to analyze those kinds of strategies from real world examples.

At the very least it is worth considering that this kind of stuff could become a stumbling block for socialism. You could try to find another solution if you don't like the one that Cockshott has offered.


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 No.1559[Reply]

In an unsurprising turn of events, affording women unlimited rights while demanding 0 responsibility (i.e., catering to their demands) hasn't made them happier or improved their well being
Political implications?
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 No.1560

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 No.1588

>>1559
These are high-school students, anon. I wonder what the rate of suicide is for young male teens.


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 No.1574[Reply]

Whatcha doing this val's?
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 No.1578

I went the 'be a skittles man' route and got my gf very cheap convenience store candy. She loved it.
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 No.1581

>>1578
>my gf
Why are you here?
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 No.1582

>>1581
dont be like this anon
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 No.1584

>>1582
sorry.
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 No.1585

>>1581
This isn't r9k the website.


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 No.1561[Reply]

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 No.1567

>incels telling incels how to score
lel
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 No.1568

>>1567
Aw yes
>'having 1 girl is too close to having 0 girls'
Sure sounds like something a guy who doesn't fuck would say
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 No.1569

your pic has ten commandments tho
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 No.1579

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>>1567
>Omg if you dont treat women like princesses, you must be an incel
Sure thing, faggot
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 No.1583

>>1579
>being this autistic
oy vey


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 No.15[Reply]

>bare minimum requirements to have a gf in 2022
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 No.1421

qbcd
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 No.1423

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>>15
>wanting a gf
only homos want that
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 No.1424

>>1423
I have never seen a fat ninja before.


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 No.1413[Reply]

Why do women lie about this shit?
I know so many men who have had their life ruined by false rape accusations. People believe them out of the gate with out any real reason to, either.
Just because bitch…women, decide one day they regret they sex they ADMITTEDLY agreed too doesn't make what they did rape and frankly the women coming out right now come off as people who want nothing more than to chase clout off this mans success.

So why, though, like, are women really this fickle? It's fucked up. What is to be done?
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 No.1416

>they sex
great band name, op
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 No.1417

>>1416
Gonna have to say based.

>>1415
You're a retard in complete denial. This shit happens to men ALL THE TIME.
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 No.1418

>>1417
>This shit happens to men ALL THE TIME.
WOW, MR. CAPSLOCK, GOT ANY STATISTICS OR OTHER FORMS OF EVIDENCE TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIM?

NO? THEN MAYBE YOU MIGHT SUFFER FROM INCEL/MANOSPHERE RETARDATION.
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 No.1419

>>1413
>What is to be done?
Outlaw all sex so even if one side claims "it was consensual", they will stil get punished harshly.
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 No.1420

>>1418
Essentially cucks like you are allowed to hide behind this circumstantial wall because you know very well no studies have been conducted on the matter because men are treated like shit in society.

https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

You know full well what you are doing cuck. This happens all the time. 60% of my friend group in high school had this happened to them. That's just not normal even with anecdotal evidence.


 No.1325[Reply]

>Andrew Tate, a notorious red pill speaker, was brought onto Pierce Morgan's show to discuss his exploding popularity as the number one person searched for in Google this year.
What are the political implications of the black and red pill hitting the mainstream?
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 No.1354

>>1353
>Not sure where you get the idea I'm a feminist lol. That's one thing I've never been accused of.
Because you parroted a feminist talking point. MGTOW isn't exactly obscure anymore if you're still taking that feminist critique at face value then you are a feminist. If it walks like a duck as they say.
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 No.1356

>>1354
No one but permaonline faggots, both men and women, know or care what mgtow is.
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 No.1357

>>1351
*When you have social value
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 No.1359

>>1356
>I purposely came into a thread about something I don't like and now I am mad. How can this be happening?
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 No.1409

>person who everyone is mocking makes the mainstream
christchurch shooter-tier nothingburger. everyone laughs at retard


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 No.1355[Reply]

>Do the masses reject Marxism and leftism because we aren't chad?

We can know that women don't really want to fuck anyone but chad, but sometimes they'll settle. Is it like that with the masses as well. For example, the won't put they're neck on the line to organize and fight for revolution unless there is a chad leader (think Mao or Fidel)?
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 No.1381

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>>1380
>Yeah bro I know they literally controlled an entire economy democratically and unionized millions of workers into syndicates but this just isn't "successful" base don my arbitrary metrics.

>Muh millions were lifted out of poverty


So what you are saying is that the end justify the means?
I am a socialist and my metrics for success as a socialist include a raise in the standards of living and more freedom for the people who live in that society. That is and always was the point of socialism until retards like stalin and Mao revised the words of Marx to include violating human rights and pogroms.

>Freedom doesn't mean shit when you're living on a diet of rats and get shelled every morning.


I can literally smell the vanilla late coming from your iced coffe while you type this on a macbook pro and your local starbucks. What do you do for a living?

People would rather have less economic freedom under capitalism and eat the soylent than have less freedom under socialism and a higher standard of living because of retards like you. Socialism is about a better life in totality for the proletariat of which you are not part of I am willing to be. I am certain I have pegged your typing habits on the board too and I am familiar with your posts. You are literally the biggest far huffing retard on the board and you need to fuck off and pull your head out of your own ass.
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 No.1382

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>>1381
>I am a socialist and my metrics for success as a socialist include a raise in the standards of living and more freedom for the people who live in that society
The latter is impossible without the former. In Stalin's words:
<"We did not build this society in order to restrict personal liberty but in order that the human individual may feel really free. We built it for the sake of real personal liberty, liberty without quotation marks. It is difficult for me to imagine what "personal liberty" is enjoyed by an unemployed person, who goes about hungry, and cannot find employment."

<"Real liberty can exist only where exploitation has been abolished, where there is no oppression of some by others, where there is no unemployment and poverty, where a man is not haunted by the fear of being tomorrow deprived of work, of home and of bread. Only in such a society is real, and not paper, personal and every other liberty possible."


>That is and always was the point of socialism until retards like stalin and Mao revised the words of Marx to include violating human rights and pogroms.

Socialism is about ending the class oppression of proletariat by the bourgeoisie. It is impossible to carry out a revolution in full, and defend it from outside reactionary forces, while playing by the rules of the bourgeoisie. What do you envision your politically correct revolution to look like, you vote in AOC and she expropriates the capitalists wealth with no resistance? Marx and Engles absolutely condoned the use of authoritarian by the proletariat during a revolution, it's called a 'dictatorship of the proletariat' for a reason!
>I can literally smell the vanilla late coming from your iced coffe while you type this on a macbook pro and your local starbucks. What do you do for a living?
I make minimum wage, hate coffee and Mac OS is shit. Stop strawmanning because you're losing the arguement.
>People would rather have less economic freedom under capitalism and eat the soylent than have less freedom under socialism and a higher standard of living because of retards like you.
Unfortunately my leftychan posts don't hav what much influence anon, I wish theyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1384

>>1382
I know what Stalin said. Again, you are not as smart as you think you are. Stalin was a revisionist megalomaniac. Nore do I really see why this is relevant because the two are not mutually exclusive. You are sitting there acting like you just can't hve freedom while you raise people standards of living when you absolutely can. Even if the USSR did good things it also failed in other ways and we should learn from them.
Ways like having centralized governmental bodies control the lives and choices of what ultimately belong to the will of the masses themselves. Unless your "socialist" movement involves that I do not want to be a part of it.

>Socialism is about ending the class oppression of proletariat by the bourgeoisie.


You're saying the exact same thing I am just in a different way. Obviously that is what it is about and what that is about itself is better lives for the people exploited by the hand of capitalism. Nore does democratic association mean "politically correct" you have to resort to these rhetorical tricks because you know you are on the loosing end of this argument because no one in modern times is willing to subjugate themselves to pogroms and authoritarianism under socialist movments. They only way to gain relevancy is to appeal to peoples sense of freedom in the modern era. You've clearly never done any actual organizing which is why you probably cannot seem to understand how unions and syndicates function, or, even soviets.

>I make minimum wage, hate coffee and Mac OS is shit. Stop strawmanning because you're losing the arguement.


=Cope==

>Unfortunately my leftychan posts don't hav what much influence anon, I wish they did…

But it is the monopoly the capitalists have on media and academia which has tricked masses into thinking that "freedom and democracy" is being able to choose from 800 brands of bottled water, and vote for one of two identical parties which despise them every 5 years. The reason the ruling class don't demonise Catalonia and Paris is not because they were perfect revolutions, but because they're so irrelevant. In fact, at the time the bourgeois media did point to the mass executions of priests and forced labour camps in Catalonia as proof of their evil. The difference is that socialistsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.1385

>>1355
>mao
>balding fat sack of shit
>chad
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 No.1386

>>1371
>Yeah dude. The Paris commune is what right wingers point to all the time when they want to complain about how much of a failure socialism has been.
Tankies eternally BTFO'd.


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 No.1320[Reply]

>Roasties fend for Chad's seed so bad they're literally resurrecting it from the dead.
It's over.
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 No.1324

Companies like this will literally slap any thing ontop of a stock picture and call it "breaking news"


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 No.1309[Reply]

A popular british soap opera has recently introduced an incel storyline and it's the funniest shit I have seen in a while.

Is this seriously what normies think incels and the 'community' are like lmao
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 No.1310

are there any examples of more accurate depictions of incels?
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 No.1311

>It's posts on the internet that make incels believe the blackpill and not their shitty love lives.
Now this is idealism!
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 No.1312

>>1310
None, they've become liberals' new punching bag since you can't make fun of fags, retards or blacks anymore.
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 No.1313

>Dark Web Search
Are there any incel forums even on the dark web?


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