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Is it kill for good or just temporarily?
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Why? What happened?


So we seriously lost another imageboard? Dark days are up on us


9chan.tw was originally setup by Joshua Connor Moon of Kiwifarms fame as a successor to 8chan.
He sperged out one day and said 9chan was too hateful (as of 8chan wasn't) and was giving ownership of the board to endchan leadership.
Endchan said they weren't seeing the numbers needed to make it worthwhile and shut the board down. To be fair to them it was a very slow board.
Many of the leftcel threads are backed up on archive.is and archive.org.


I don't get why everyone is so obsessed with extremely high post numbers these days. That's capitalistic idealism being hyper concerned with with productivity/


Shame. It was an interesting, albeit slow, board. Hopefully enough of the anons who frequented there know about this board so the community doesn't die completely.

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Research highlights experiences of general and mental ill-health in sexual and ethnic minority individuals
>LGBTQ+ individuals continue to experience high rates of general- and mental ill-health, and report greater rates of adverse health-related behaviours.
This was obvious to anyone that's had to deal with LGBTQ people that don't have any social capital.
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No but gay people having higher mental illness isn't because of their sexuality you obtuse dick head. It's because they have to hide it usually.


LMAO, LGBTQ supporters always trot out this meme that homos and transgender people are dysfunctional because they face so much persecution.
There are legions of minorities that endure more hardship and don't have these mental illnesses.
Gay men have get the most AIDS, gay women have the highest domestic violence rates, and transgender people are victims of violence at the exact same rate as mentally ill people.
LGBTQ activism got so big because it obstensively anti low status CIS male. A form of misandry that's been cultivated by feminism for 60 years.
But anyone with two eyeballs could see how destructive the LGBTQ lifestyle is and now science is finally willing backing this up.
I'm not anti-LGBTQ, I don't think any harm should come to these people, but the idea that it's just another form of sexuality is wrong.


>There are legions of minorities that endure more hardship and don't have these mental illnesses.
Most minorities don't experience the same degree of social atomization as LGBT people unless they are actively being ethnically cleansed (like palestinians)


>Most minorities don't experience the same degree of social atomization as LGBT
History, Psychology, statistics all prove this otherwise. LGBTQ people are not the most oppressed minority, they're not even close.


This is retarded any n. I'm gay too

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uhhh, medbros?


I blame the R*mans for this


Rome must be destroyed

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Have we just witnessed the first act of militant leftcelism?
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>Until the jap police decide to say what his motives was, it can be whatever we want it to be.
The Police said that the man was dissatisfied with Shinzo Abe's leadership.
It's probably not right wing terrorism, because they usually just go after random people.
But this is unlikely coming from the left because Abe wasn't in office anymore. (Abe resigned from office in 2020 for health reasons)
"Abenomics" was shit:
and shooting the guy while he held office might have made some sense as a motive, but 2 years after why bother ?

My guess is a private hitman, hired by either corporate or mafia, which in Japan has a lot of overlap.


>Chinese celebrating Abe's death.


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From what I've read it was fash on fash violence. The shooter thought Abe was a Moonie sympathizer.


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I regret to inform you all that our favorite Israel supporting social-fascist has become the victim of a prolonged misogynistic verbal attack right outside the center of US democracy.

While on her way to push biden left by voting to send heavy artillery to Nazi paramilitaries in Ukraine, our socilaist qveen was ambushed with a barrage of hate speech by an assumed white supremacist incel. Just when the savior of the american left was finally recovering from the trauma of being involved in the january 6th riots (she watched them on TV) another case of entitled white male anti-establishment protest struck.

When will brocialists and class-reductionist chuds finally take the oppression faced by our female elected officials seriously?


Damn, she does have a nice booty.


You are putting the finger on the identitarian based criticism deflection technique of the super-structure, and the hypocrisy of warmongering. I personally liked the sarcastic delivery of your polemic, does it get resonance with the masses ?


I heard on the "It's Going Down" anarchist podcast one activist saying that it's good that abortion proponents are now actually calling it abortion instead of abstracting with the "pro-choice" moniker.
I'd have to agree with this, but I think she misunderstands why it was originally done. 3rd wave feminists framed abortion has having zero ethical quandaries, likening it to having an apendex removed, but the visceral imagery of an abortion is to vivid for even a layman to ignore so to avoid having to explain how a pile of cut up baby parts is in fact not a human, they abstracted it by saying it's a choice.
But by using the term abortion I think they are going to have an uphill bad explaining to the public how this disturbing practice is infact simply healthcare. I say all this as someone that supports abortion, but this is the political reality.

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This is Melanie King, a Youtuber that gives dating advice to women. While not obstinately red pilled, her critiques of modern women closely follow those of incel ideology.
That women have a SMV (Sexual Market Value) that declines as they age and or have children, that there are winners and losers in this market (Chads and Betas) and the 80/20 rule, 80% of women are going after the top 20% of men.
I've been seeing more mainstream incel sympathizing, or manosphere channels popping up on YouTube. Which is interesting because around 2014-2015 YouTube waged a fatwa on such content and killed all the traffic and success that early Manosphere content creators were enjoying at the time like Sandman who had something like 100k+ subscribers before the YouTube incel purge.
And you can't ignore that this woman is really attractive, which makes it a lot harder to dismiss her critique as sour grapes. Regardless, such an attractive women publicly espousing Red Pill/Incel ideology would have been unheard of even a few years ago, and now there's an entire echo system .
To be fair to King, she would say that her views of women are informed by her religion, and not incels.
Have you all seen more incel sympathizing median in the mainstream or near mainstream.
I think incels and men's grievance with feminism over all are becoming to big to ignore and are beginning to reach critical mass.
Here's a link to her channel, it's quite well established.
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I think you're navie to think it wasn't always this way.


Idealogies are always based on material conditions. You should be sad that dating got so bad for so many that it spawed these ideologies. Not that the ideolgoies themselves caught on.




Relationships are gamified in some circles of the internet. I feel that living in this hellscape of social conservatism, hegemony of capital, and violence of the state and the minority who controls it are responsible for a hardening of attitudes regarding sexual partnerships.

It becomes a problem to optimize. Solve for optimal sex. Solve for optimal psychological well-being. Solve for career advancement. Solve for properly optimized offspring. It's no different from selecting what institute you will attend after high school, which courses you will take to secure a desired position in society seeking positive outcomes in life.

The woolly free-love kind of romantic concept has been rejected by an increasing number of people who in the face of a hardscrabble world, seek out materially beneficial arrangements. It's not just "incel ideology". Female Dating Strategy (FDS) and associated communities and attitudes are spreading amongst women. It represents the embrace of traditional attitudes towards marriage. Returning to "pragmatism" is not a hard sell when the common folk need to be awful pragmatic about budgets and living arrangements and exploitative working conditions.

Women are a part of the formulation and enforcement of the memes that enslave them in the same way that men are. We are all participants and authors in this game. The thing that makes people like her and the incels so seemingly anachronistic is that the old rules of the game are changing rapidly (via industrialized society and technology), so much so that nobody knows what they are yet and we have yet to reach a stable equilibrium. Think less "evolutionary psychology" and more game theory. They are easy to mix up. Evo-psych just adds bullshit explanations on top and asserts that shit is inherent to our nature because Le Neutral Selekchion. Truthfully it is a game. But as the conditions have changed and the rules are in dispute, there's room right now for a lot of chaotic moves and unorthodox playstyles.

So the best these people have is to hold on to the tried and true rules that got us this far. Played skillfully, even the old meta can stay potent against new and uncoordinated challengers.

Schizo TLDR:
This is not going away until we figure out how to make sex sane in a poPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


To making dating sane again you have to abolish child support, circumcisions, legalize porn, sex doll brothels develop a male birth control pill and lift travel restrictions so that men can find brides overseas. Nothing short of this will end the madness.

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Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
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I think the issue with analysis like this is it treats the capitalist economy like it's its own independent agent. Like it has conscious thought itself. Capitalism is always playing both sides; Everyone with capital comes out on top this way. Not because they chooose to, but, just through simple market forces. Likewise, abortion can help or hurt a capitalistic system.


>I think the issue with analysis like this is it treats the capitalist economy like it's its own independent agent. Like it has conscious thought itself.
Your critique is valid in a general sense. But in this specific instance, banning abortion pills will not affect availability, it's just too easy to make and smuggle these pills. I don't know how illegality will affect prices, smuggling is more expensive, but the absence of patent-enforcement also makes it less expensive. You can ban drugs that cause addiction, because they have the effect of creating junkies with a recurring transaction pattern, which can be the point of entry for police investigation and enforcement. Abortions are infrequent events without creating junkies.

Women and some men as well will also be highly motivated to get these pills, and many people will be politically motivated to interfere with enforcement of abortion bans so the agency isn't entirely on the side of capital and markets.

>Capitalism is always playing both sides; Everyone with capital comes out on top this way

Maybe, this could also be an opportunity to build alternative economic structures that provide the commodities and services that capitalism and markets won't. You could even try to build alternative legal structures. This is an exploitable conflict but there is no rule that says capitalism has to benefit from it.

>Not because they chooose to, but, just through simple market forces.

That's not really true, this abortion ban was a deliberate decision, capital is worried that a shrinking population means labor power will become scarce. They are right the demographic changes are going to favor the political power of workers over that of capital. Banning abortions, won't fix it though. The rate of surplus extraction is the pivotal factor. In a very brutal way profits and children compete for the same source.


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I overall agree with everything you said accept the last bit; I don't think that is really true because on the same coin the system of capitalism is also creating a generation of alienated and depressed teenagers and young adults who basically only have social interaction over the internet at this point which is also effecting birth rates. Though, I do find this analysis to hold some validity and is quite interesting to think about.


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Roasties BTFO’d.


Fuck rosties.

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Y'all better not be doing this.

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>The buffalo shooter was a /pol/tard and an incel.
Thoughts? /pol/ is freaking out about getting shut down now. I….can’t see this happening because 4chan is too big, maybe just /pol/ will be deleted?
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How fucking in denial can you possibly be in? Jesus Christ.


Yeah, well it has precedent with 8ch getting shutdown due to the NZ Christchurch Mosque Shooting.


No, if you buy one through legitimate means they'll trace you up to return it.


why the fuck does every white 18-21 year old try to grow a beard? if you have pubebeard at very best all it does is make your face look dumpy and round
>>111 you haven't already?


>you haven't already?
No, just a handgun. I poor.

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Interesting video on people falling in love with Replika, an A.I. girlfriend. I think this will be the future for many incels, and many near-cels i.e. men that occasionally get sex and affirmations from the opposite sex.
It really seems like it's ready for prime time now. Where someone can and has convincingly fallen in love with a computer program.
It's going to be funny to see the simp market crash and all these thots suddenly with not betas to fall back on when Chad inevitably dumps them when they hit the wall.
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If you think these bots will be such great things, why would you want to give away control over them to corporations. Even if you think that they will never gain full mastery over AI, they will still have a lot more sway over these bots then the end users would have. Ai algorithms are from a technical perspective weighted statistical brute-force computation, that won't produce intelligent autonomous cognition. To get a truly intelligent machine you will have to put all the bits of intelligence into it by your self, it will not self assemble greater intelligence. You can't get more out of it then you put in. You should read about information theory by Claude E Shannon.

Maybe I could see your side if you would be championing an opensource version of it. In a build your own girlfriend kind of way. But advocating submission to corporate control, sorry that's one step too far.


The bots should be free and open source obviously.


I don't "want" to give control of AI waifus over to corporations. But ever major IT technology have always been introduced to the masses via commercial products first.
I'd love nothing more than for the public to fund and market a libre version of AI girlfriends but its not happening so there's no point in discussing it.


>that won't produce intelligent autonomous cognition
Yeah I know, just like I know McDonald's is garbage compared to a home cooked meal. But millions still eat Big Macs everyday.because they are compled to by material conditions.
What you feminists don't understand is that the bottom 80% of guys literally have nothing.when it comes to romance. They'll fall in love.with AI girlfriends for the same reason the poor eat fast food, because they have no other choice.


Human male and Human female relationships have always been shit for men and always will be. When AI girlfriends become advanced enough for my liking I will hop on boat. The corporate side of thing matters little, we will probably be corporate wageslaves not of our own will anyway. If things go peachy I would like to enjoy romantic entertainment with my AI girlfriend for decades.

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