>>11303>Then your excluding certain groups based on things other than how they make money is based on how you feel.No, it's based on how THEY make money, aka their relationship to the means of production.
>An increasingly large swathe of first world workers are deliberately lumpenized, yes.No, their status as simply employees is just obfuscated for political and legal reasons. If you have a boss that tells you when, how and at what wage you work, you're a prole or employee. Even libs recognize this and have been trying to change the rules governing gig workers
https://nysba.org/reimagining-workers-rights-in-the-gig-economy-bridging-the-gap-between-independent-contractors-and-employees/>He literally alluded to Bohemians in his original description of lumpenproles lol.I'm talking about modern workers now, the type of 'informal work' doesn't exist in modern times. There are no 'ragpickers'. At best I could think of someone like a scalper falling into this 'informal work' category, but they're a negligible part of the work force.
>The only reason that there weren't large swathes of "illegal immigrants" in the US, specifically, at that time is that the US didn't require any documentation for legal entry until the 20th century. There were massive waves of migration from Europe (Ireland is especially notable, also Germany and Italy) for which no identification or registration was required, and there were also large waves of immigrant laborers from China, which led to the Chinese (specifically) eventually being refused entry and citizenship entirely based on race/nationality, so technically the Chinese (and the Chinese alone) did kind of become the prototypical "illegal immigrants" before "illegal immigration" was properly codified as a more general concept.OMG, the 1800's immigration wave from Europe were not lumpen. They were settler brought on to complete the American settler-colonialist project aka 'Manifest Destiny' and their legal status as settlers (read: white) was established as far back as 1691 after Bacon's rebellion. It's just a honky se
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