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 No.11264[Reply]

Why did Marxists choose to side with the young women over young men considering young women are more privileged in society today?
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 No.11291

>>11283
>illicit or informal work
>unless it's informal gig workers who I don't personally disregard
This is the problem with trying to define classes based on how you personally feel about them instead of by their relationship with capital. Lumpenproles aren't all in a gang, but do all work irregular, informal, illicit, or taboo work - usually with very low or unreliable pay. Hence the "reserve army of labor" label.
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 No.11300

>>11291
But it's not based on how I personally feel, it's based in how they make money.
'Informal Work' has pretty much been subsumed by capitalist enterprises. And there weren't giant pools of illegal immigrants in Marx's time like there are now, they just relied on old fashioned colonialism for free labor or original capital.
Some of Marxism is just outdated. Like the fact that Marx thought of money as a commodity, which fiat currency isn't, but was when there was the gold standard during his time.
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 No.11303

>>11300
>But it's not based on how I personally feel, it's based in how they make money.
Then your excluding certain groups based on things other than how they make money is based on how you feel.
>'Informal Work' has pretty much been subsumed by capitalist enterprises.
An increasingly large swathe of first world workers are deliberately lumpenized, yes.
>And there weren't giant pools of illegal immigrants in Marx's time like there are now,
He literally alluded to Bohemians in his original description of lumpenproles lol. The only reason that there weren't large swathes of "illegal immigrants" in the US, specifically, at that time is that the US didn't require any documentation for legal entry until the 20th century. There were massive waves of migration from Europe (Ireland is especially notable, also Germany and Italy) for which no identification or registration was required, and there were also large waves of immigrant laborers from China, which led to the Chinese (specifically) eventually being refused entry and citizenship entirely based on race/nationality, so technically the Chinese (and the Chinese alone) did kind of become the prototypical "illegal immigrants" before "illegal immigration" was properly codified as a more general concept.
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 No.11305

>>11303
>Then your excluding certain groups based on things other than how they make money is based on how you feel.
No, it's based on how THEY make money, aka their relationship to the means of production.
>An increasingly large swathe of first world workers are deliberately lumpenized, yes.
No, their status as simply employees is just obfuscated for political and legal reasons. If you have a boss that tells you when, how and at what wage you work, you're a prole or employee. Even libs recognize this and have been trying to change the rules governing gig workers
https://nysba.org/reimagining-workers-rights-in-the-gig-economy-bridging-the-gap-between-independent-contractors-and-employees/
>He literally alluded to Bohemians in his original description of lumpenproles lol.
I'm talking about modern workers now, the type of 'informal work' doesn't exist in modern times. There are no 'ragpickers'. At best I could think of someone like a scalper falling into this 'informal work' category, but they're a negligible part of the work force.
>The only reason that there weren't large swathes of "illegal immigrants" in the US, specifically, at that time is that the US didn't require any documentation for legal entry until the 20th century. There were massive waves of migration from Europe (Ireland is especially notable, also Germany and Italy) for which no identification or registration was required, and there were also large waves of immigrant laborers from China, which led to the Chinese (specifically) eventually being refused entry and citizenship entirely based on race/nationality, so technically the Chinese (and the Chinese alone) did kind of become the prototypical "illegal immigrants" before "illegal immigration" was properly codified as a more general concept.
OMG, the 1800's immigration wave from Europe were not lumpen. They were settler brought on to complete the American settler-colonialist project aka 'Manifest Destiny' and their legal status as settlers (read: white) was established as far back as 1691 after Bacon's rebellion. It's just a honky sePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.11307

>>11305
>settlers
here we go again…


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 No.11289[Reply]

>oooh Anon, you were never supposed to figure it out
>you are too smart for your own good
>I rove you
>goodbye!
God I want this
Why cant China just go imperialist already and state-issue CCP certified wives after genociding the beckies and stacies?


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 No.6791[Reply]

why is Chadpreet so much more buff and manly than me?
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 No.7064

>>7036
>workers of the world unite!
>eww subcontinental brown men
make it make sense
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 No.7727

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Happy Diwali to those that celebrate it.
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 No.10901

You know it's bad when Ogre has more people defending Indians
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/781658.html

Anti-Indianism must be combated, lest you look like an astroturfed Epstein-4chanite/Maxwell-Redditite.
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 No.10948

>>10901
Why does Ogre hate Indians so much?
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 No.11235

>>6852
>>6853
Bump for thesse


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 No.633[Reply]

Oh yeah, porn thread.
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 No.11007

Thoughts on 'disabled man x abled woman' porn?

I found out it existed
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 No.11010

>>10111
The fire rises.
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 No.11218

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 No.10878[Reply]

This article from a Wall Street magazine, hand wrings about how the Boomers finally leaving the workplace en masse is going to cause a labor shortage and a windfall for Gen Z.
This mass exodus from the workforce was supposed to happen 30 fucking years ago. But because of Boomers' staggering avarice and selfishness Boomers clung onto their jobs, homes and positions of authority as long as they absolutely could and now that even the very youngest of them are in their 60's, death, illness and just becoming outdated and unable to adapt to productivity increases with tools like AI, are forcing them out of the market.
The incel phenomenon is a purely economic issue. Now with 3rd wave feminism allowing women to earn a sustainable wage independently, men go from being a necessity to survive to a huge liability if they're not bringing something beyond a meager wage to the table.
And many men simply don't have anything to offer a partner than a wage. They're not handsome, refined, monied, and increasing not white (which in a de facto apartheid society does make a difference).
The labor glut created by the boomers that the boomers were themselves spared the effects of, created a huge underclass of young men that had to complete with entrenched boomers that built their political power during the greatest economic expansion in modern history.
Then the Boomers, with nothing else to do, stayed in the labor market 30 years longer than they were expected, creating a huge back pressure of labor demand that will be uncorked all at once in the next few years.
Incels are the complete product of neoliberalism. Neoliberalism that was built on the seemingly endless labor supply provided by the baby boomer population. Neoliberals are the brats of the post WWII explosion of in the rate of profit that the utter destruction of European capital in WWII caused. And these neoliberals thought that good times would last forever and did zero contingency planning.
Many Gen X'ers, Millennials, and Gen Z'ers comment on how 'good' the Boomers had it. Once this labor shortage starts in earnest, it will make those good times look quaint in comparison.
Younger generations are far and away more educated than Boomers are. Boomers actually had issues graduating high school, and the ones that did have something closer to a middle school level of education. That's why Boomer leaders like Trump, talk like a 12 year old.
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 No.11158

>>11156
Furthermore, school will be cool because socialism will be the panacea.
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 No.11162

>>11156
Goddamn, all they do is peck at each other like old hens.
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 No.11168

>>11162
They are old hens. The constant wokescolding mixed in with reactionary undertones and the constant whining about “slop”
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 No.11178

More videos about how more women are finding short men attractive.
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 No.11217

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I know I do


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 No.11214[Reply]

Is dating idealist? You don't know for sure if a relationship is gonna work out, so how do you investigate that materially?
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 No.11215

No, there's happy healthy marriages out there were the man and woman love each other. They're just not the rule.


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 No.11104[Reply]

Thoughts on 'refusing to block your rapist' discourse going on right now?

Btw X is actually alive unlike this dead fucking site
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 No.11115

I think I'm coming to the same conclusion on my own - that women tend to fuck those who game them and pressure them into sex. If you want to get laid it's basically just a numbers game.
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 No.11164

>>11104
they all have abusive fathers and want to get back at them by proxy by accusing random men of rape
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we truly live in the dumbest of all possible worlds


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 No.11128[Reply]

- Normies: Relationships just happen, stuff just happens, it just happened
- pol chud soyjak: Nothing happens

It's all connected…
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 No.11166

I just happened to fuck your mother, but here you are trying to cope with some grand theory.


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 No.5800[Reply]

List the petty spiteful ways you mess with the Chosen Gender™. Based pic related. That uygha's my hero right now.

For me:
I don't hold open doors.
I don't stop to give directions.
I search up videos on Youtube, sort by recent and press dislike on the female ones. (I really hope this demotivates them to stop, especially lower view ones.)
I don't lower the bathroom seat wherever I go.
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 No.11105

>>5801
>implying women aren't labor aristocracy or unproductive labor for the most part

>>5802
>>5806
>>8437
cuck fags
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 No.11116

>>11105
>unproductive labor
Dude nurses and doctors are unproductive labor in Marxism, that doesn't mean we don't depend on them. Stop assigning moral shit to economic shit.

>labor aristocracy

Maybe the ones on OF are but that's not the majority of women.
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 No.11145

Nice try, but you can't be leftist if you are misogynist.


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 No.8759[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

State-issued girlfriend program thread


Alternate titles for this program/policy/initiative/plan:
state-assigned
state-issued
state-mandated
state-appointed
state-ordered
state-mediated
state-arranged

government-assigned
government-issued
government-mandated
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 No.10931

>>10927
I'm for legalizing prostitution in the west. I also support stipends for single men to fund surrogacy.
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 No.10932

>>10931
Single men and their kids will have to explain how in the world motherhood could be so disrespected the rest of your lives. That's deep. Think long and hard.
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 No.10933

>>10932
'Disrespecting motherhood' is just your opinion. Do you also scold single moms for 'disrespecting fatherhood'?
You don't. As far as explaining it to the child I'd just tell the truth. I couldn't find anyone to marry so I choose to have a child on my own. Women make this choice everyday and no one questions it.
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 No.11121

>>8831
>At what point do you just admit you are a failure of a man who can't do anything
himself.

No one can do anything themself. Also you don’t do a job of convincing these people that their ideas are wrong by telling them they’re are failures.

>You don't want to buy a house or interview for a job or ask a girl out. You want somebody else to do the work and give you the result. That's the problem.


We don’t want to shift the responsibility to someone else we want to abolish the buying of houses and employment of workers all together.
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 No.11142

>>10927
>>10931
Maybe we should have courting classes for teenagers and have mandatory sex education and homestead training


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