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Anonymous 2025-05-12 (Mon) 22:13:47 No.157905

BadEmpanada - MESSAGE TO THE GOOD INDIAN PEOPLE (Re: Pakistan & Kashmir)

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Anonymous 2025-05-12 (Mon) 23:46:35 No.157906

John Fetterman: Israel's Golem | Chapo Trap House

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 01:37:18 No.157907

US-Turkish commentator stopped at border, questioned about Gaza views

Hasan Piker says he was held by US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) at Chicago’s O’Hare airport and questioned for nearly two hours about his views on Trump and Israel’s war on Gaza.

In a livestream on Twitch, where he has 2.8 million followers, Piker, who was carrying a US passport when he entered the country, said he was led to a private room on his arrival.

He said a CBP officer questioned him about his criticism of Israel’s war on Gaza, asking him, “Do you like Hamas? Like, do you support Hamas? Do you think Hamas is a resistance group?”

The incident has drawn criticism from rights advocates.

Chip Gibbons, the policy director of Defending Rights & Dissent, said the rights group was “deeply disturbed that CBP is stopping political commentators at the border to interrogate them about First Amendment-protected activities”.

“Such an abuse of power is an affront to press freedom,” Gibbons said.

https://aje.io/1xgt8y?update=3705887

BadEmpanada chimes in on the 'Ethan Klein got Hasan Piker detained by American gestapo' story

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 05:50:10 No.157911

>>157907
>Hasan: *gets asked if he supports Hamas for a few hours*
>Assange and Snowden: *considered national traitors and criminals and forced to flee their country*
You know, that was… surprisingly tame.

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 21:04:33 No.157920

>>157911
Assange and Snowden weren't pursued for their political opinions though.

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 22:38:01 No.157921

>>157920
>Assange and Snowden weren't pursued for their political opinions though.
Sorta but if the American government can do that kind of shit to whistleblowers then it was always like that, it's just that with Trump people started to notice it more. Other presidents are no different from Trump in that aspect. In fact, under Biden the police and the border wall continued to expand. We should stop making a Pikachu face after witnessing something which was predicted decades ago. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that Trump is "too kind." Quite the opposite: I expected him to be more ruthless.

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 22:47:16 No.157922

>>157921 (me)
Certainly that accident with Hasan is chilling. But it could have been worse. America only puts on a facade of libertarianism but it is the country where empoverished African-American citizen get kidnapped and sent into prison camps as slave labor.

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Anonymous 2025-05-13 (Tue) 23:26:04 No.157923

>>157921
>Sorta but if the American government can do that kind of shit to whistleblowers then it was always like that,
The second part doesn't really follow the first part.

The Assange thing specifically followed a wave of pro-surveillance and censorship reforms under Bush, and the Snowden thing was also directly related to that. It's gotten markedly worse in the past 20 years, and in the past year+ the waves of arrests specifically for "wrongthink" on Palestine have increased.

>We should stop making a Pikachu face after witnessing something which was predicted decades ago. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying that Trump is "too kind." Quite the opposite: I expected him to be more ruthless.
I didn't say you were "saying Trump is too kind." I didn't even mention Trump.

It's very weird that that's the first place you go when I point out that whistleblowers & random twitch streamers are not 1:1. I've been criticizing this shit for 20 years, so no, I do not agree that people should be nicer to the president or pretend that incremental worsening is not bad because it was also bad before. That's just complacency with extra steps.

>>157922
>America only puts on a facade of libertarianism
The word you're looking for is "liberalism." America doesn't put on a facade of "libertarianism." Even the GOP specifically only pretend to be libertarian part time.

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 00:03:37 No.157924

We Can Grok It For You Wholesale feat. Mike Isaac | Chapo Trap House

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 06:43:23 No.157927

Idubbz Destroys Ethan's CPS Lies in Brutal Video

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 08:55:17 No.157928

>>157923
>It's very weird that that's the first place you go
You misunderstood me (really feeling like Stallman rn), I just said that I'm not defending Trump by saying Hasan's punishment is "surprisingly tame." I mean, people get fucking deported for criticizing Israel and Hasan just got a few hour talk.
>I do not agree that people should be nicer to the president
Yet I didn't say that either.
>pretend that incremental worsening is not bad
Didn't say that one either.
>The word you're looking for is "liberalism."
No, I know which word I chose. It isn't just economic liberalism. It's talks about liberty and human rights and anti-authoritarianism and shit. Libertarianism is not economic liberalism, it's a leftist word used by libertarian socialists. Liberte, egalite, fraternite and stuff.

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 09:19:47 No.157929

>>157928
>You misunderstood me (really feeling like Stallman rn), I just said that I'm not defending Trump by saying Hasan's punishment is "surprisingly tame." I mean, people get fucking deported for criticizing Israel and Hasan just got a few hour talk.
Your first comment was to contrast him with Assange and Snowden, which are very different cases. It's really not that surprising that Hasan Piker wasn't treated like either of them.

>No, I know which word I chose. It isn't just economic liberalism. It's talks about liberty and human rights and anti-authoritarianism and shit.
That's liberalism.

"Liberalism in politics is associated with nonauthoritarianism, the rule of law, constitutional government with limited powers, and the guarantee of civil and political liberties. A liberal society is tolerant of different religious, philosophical, and ethical doctrines and allows individuals to freely form and express their conscientious convictions and opinions on all matters and live according to their chosen purposes and life paths. In economic terms, liberalism is associated with an unplanned economy with free and competitive markets, as well as private ownership and control of productive resources."
- per https://oxfordre.com/politics/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228637.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228637-e-236

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 10:13:19 No.157930

>>157929
>It's really not that surprising that Hasan Piker wasn't treated like either of them.
I said it's not surprising that he got arrested either because there were far worse precedents before, you'd expect 'em to go harder on him since it's worse now. Also, I already mentioned students getting deported, he's not even a student, he's a streamer. Students get deported, black people get sent to prison camps, normal people are treated way, way worse.
>That's liberalism.
What I'm talking about is values and principles, not the way this or that government functions. I say that they continuously fail to follow libertarian principles. That's why they can't be called libertarians, they are authoritarians through and through, even if they may pretend to care about civil liberties.

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 10:29:06 No.157931

>>157930
>What I'm talking about is values and principles,
Again, liberalism.
The facade put up by the American state isn't libertarianism, it's liberalism. It's the idea that liberal social values and liberal economics are compatible. The American state isn't pretending to be anarchist, it's pretending to embody enlightenment liberal values.

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Anonymous 2025-05-14 (Wed) 10:47:00 No.157932

>>157931
>The facade put up by the American state isn't libertarianism, it's liberalism.
Well, certainly they don't call it libertarianism because libertarianism implies a deeper commitment to liberty. But what liberalism is in practice is just economic deregulation and liberal democracy, that's it.

Also, yes, libertarianism is a critique of liberalism through these same liberal enlightenment values themselves. Proudhon used natural rights to critique the concept of private property for example.

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Anonymous 2025-05-16 (Fri) 02:50:38 No.157948

>>157932
>Also, yes, libertarianism is a critique of liberalism through these same liberal enlightenment values themselves.

This is actually a good distinction. Libertarianism is hated by everyone, even centrists.

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Anonymous 2025-05-16 (Fri) 03:36:08 No.157949

Noah Samsen - Ethan Klein Lawsuit Response

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Anonymous 2025-05-16 (Fri) 10:22:54 No.157954

>>157948
>Libertarianism is hated by everyone, even centrists.
It really depends on whether this or that brand of libertarianism is left, right or center. Leftists often try to collaborate with left-libertarians, rightoids often try to collaborate with right-libertarians. And centrists like Andrew Yang ig.

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Anonymous 2025-05-16 (Fri) 11:01:17 No.157955

Dasha <3

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Anonymous 2025-05-18 (Sun) 02:19:30 No.158023

Hasan on Trump and US "ceasefire" cons

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Anonymous 2025-05-18 (Sun) 03:01:16 No.158025

How the Houthis defeated Donald Trump - The Kyle Kucklinski Show

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Anonymous 2025-05-18 (Sun) 04:21:55 No.158026

>>157949
Dude this little faggot is such a fucking slime ball. I get hasan is a faggot, or, whatever, but Ethan is such a douche. I got in an argument with hasan on live once about Ethan and he should have took te kid gloves off from the start. Now look at him. That dude is such a snake in the grass lying faggot.

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Anonymous 2025-05-18 (Sun) 04:33:12 No.158027

>>158026
Absolutely, Ethan fucking sucks. It's weird this guy who feeds his kids dog poop is this emboldened to attack others.

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Anonymous 2025-05-18 (Sun) 06:18:47 No.158028