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 No.481934

For some reason many people are very reluctant to get vaccines as a means to boost their immune response to hazardous microbes.

There is another solution if we made people with DNA from 6 parents instead of only 2, humans would get a rate of genetic adaptation that should be beyond the maximum rate of adaptation through mutation for viral, fungal and bacterial infections.

This would involve artificial fertilization with 2 normal parents + 4 random DNA donors. For best effect we'd draw DNA donor-samples from the entire planet. As bonus various genetic diseases like mitochondrial dysfunction would get wiped out as well (that's already being treated through tri-parent DNA) , the common cold would probably become a rare occurrence affecting only a very small number of people. Metabolically people would have to expend less energy on immunological function and we'd get a boost in brain-power, muscles and endurance.

It would probably annoy the Eugenics crowd if we did that. To be clear eugenics never had a basis in real biology, so this does not make any material difference, it's just surplus enjoyment of an ideological middle finger.

Practically speaking if you wanted a Hexa-child. You and the other parent would have to give your DNA to the big DNA-lottery and then you get 4 random DNA samples in return.

By the way the medical tech already exists, so for this to become a thing, it only requires organization.

I'm curious if there's any takers ?
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 No.481959

Enough with the eugenics! Holy fuck I don't want engineered super babies, I want cheaper groceries and my own apartment! Fuck off.
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 No.481960

retarded shit, viruses aren't real
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 No.481963

>>481959
<random DNA donors
>I don't want engineered super babies
it seems that OP's proposal would satisfy that stipulation

>I want cheaper groceries
divert surplus from militarism and elite luxuries to the productive economy.
>and my own apartment!
Slay the real estate hedge-funds and divert the surplus to public housing
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 No.481965

Does somebody have, like, a futuristic CGI trance music video for this thread?

>By the way the medical tech already exists, so for this to become a thing, it only requires organization.
Link?
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 No.481980

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Why don't we just do the plot of 9 and arm our soul robots with the tools to defeat capitalism
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 No.481987

>>481934
>For some reason many people are very reluctant to get vaccines
What if I told you that pharmaceutical corporations and the billionaires who own them don't have your best interest at heart.
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 No.481988

>>481987
>pharmaceutical corporations and the billionaires who own them don't have your best interest at heart.
I can understand the mistrust, but why wouldn't the conclusion be to have the public sector develop those medical treatments instead ?
Or how about open source medicine ? Instead of rejecting medicine altogether, get a more trustworthy producer.
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 No.482000

>>481959
I thinl super engineered babies isnt so bad.
As long as we make humams biologically independemt of food and water, we set.

Also, curb the human population by nine-tenths.
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 No.482015

>>482000
>As long as we make humams biologically independemt of food and water, we set.
Seems implausible. Can you explain how this would work ? How'd we get energy to live and matter to replace cells ?

>Also, curb the human population by nine-tenths.
Are you volunteering to curb your self ? You know, people who want to reduce the human population can't be taken seriously unless they lead by example.
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 No.482039

>>482015
Curbing means birth control.
And doing away with criminals.
And I dont mean shoplifting from Wal-Mart. I mean serial killers, sexual predators, druglords, etc.

Also, I want humans to be biologically independent by making anthropological cloroplasts
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 No.482040

>>482039
I'm assuming you mean eugenics via forced sterilizations.

Color me skeptical regarding the prospects of producing better behavioral patterns that way. If you do sterilizations you artificially create an evolutionary pressure to avoid sterilizations, but you do not choose how that is achieved. In other words you'll likely select for more cunning serial killers.

Without understanding how these behaviors are generated, as in the interaction between environment and biology, it's unlikely that you can shape anything with intent.

I also see some problems with regards to people making up imaginary crimes to persecute people with this. Crimes may have external causes, while there can be kleptocracy, some shoplifting certainly is caused by a defective economic system that fails to generate sufficient purchasing power within the population. While you could try to sterilize bad economists to combat the economic effects that cause shoplifting, it doesn't seem like a particular effective strategy.

>I want humans to be biologically independent by making anthropological cloroplasts
You got to explain that some more.
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 No.482043

>>482040
He's been watching too much Farscape. Photosynthesis doesn't produce enough energy to facilitate mammal metabolism.
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 No.482058

>>482043
Im well aware that photosynthesis isnt enough for mammalian consumption on its own but its worth a shot.

>>482040
Notice how I said ACTUAL ciminals.
I dont count count shoplifting from corporate stores as serious crime.
Mom-and-pop stores on the hand…

I mean serious crimes like PEDOPHILIA (and not the definition of fucking young adults either, I mean actual prepubescent humans), HOMOCIDE, BULLYING/ABUSE, DOMESTIC LAUNDERING/THEFT, ETC.

Also, people should not be allowed to have kids ubtil they undergo mandatory hospitality training.
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 No.482060

>>482043
>He's been watching too much Farscape. Photosynthesis doesn't produce enough energy to facilitate mammal metabolism.
>>482058
>Im well aware that photosynthesis isnt enough for mammalian consumption on its own but its worth a shot.

Doing photosynthesis could potentially bypass some chemical conversions, and that likely would mean slower metabolic aging, especially if you can manage direct ATP molecule production. But it doesn't mean independence from food.

>>482058
>Notice how I said ACTUAL ciminals.
Ok this is your intention. Lets set that aside for a moment.
I think your methods don't work and will not create the change you seek.

If you do a sterilization on a population, the only variable that matters is that the people who can evade the sterilizations are the ones that have offspring. What your intentions are is completely irrelevant. Traits like deception and aggression are likely useful for getting past the "sterilization filter". Do you understand, you are not the one that chooses which traits are being selected for. You create an evolutionary obstacle and natural selection will choose every single trait that gets organisms past the obstacle. Natural selection is a heartless bitch and will smack you with unintended consequences.
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 No.482064

The only animals that derive significant energy from photosymbioses are ones that barely move at all, namely sponges and corals. The only photosymbiosis found in a vertebrate to date is in the yellow spotted salamander, where green algae inhabit the cells of embryos. The function isn't necessarily energy though, it's to provide extra oxygen for eggs commonly laid in oxygen-poor ponds.
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 No.482083

>>482064
>The only animals that derive significant energy from photosymbioses are ones that barely move at all, namely sponges and corals.
That's not how you would make humans able to gain energy from photosynthesis. Our immune system wouldn't allow for that kind of symbioses.
However human skin pigmentation cells are already half way there and already can do certain types of photo-chemistry, it would be a minor modification on that system to get the effect.
You are correct that we wouldn't get enough energy from this to power any kind of locomotion, but you probably would get a boost for generating homeostasis at rest. If a person were do a type of meditation that brings down the metabolic rate to deep sleep levels, it would likely help people to survive famine for much, much longer. In normal conditions, the energy you get from photo-chemistry would remove metabolic strain from the rest of the organism. You probably get a small longevity boost from this. Also all the light you convert into energy won't burn your skin and you'd get better protection from sunburn, as a result your skin would age slower.

If you adjust your expectation to realism levels, instead of science fantasy transhumanism of bio engineering the homo-deus. Something like this could be considered a medical procedure that brings enough health benefits that makes it worth it.
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 No.482100

>>482083
The biological machinery involved in photosynthesis is a big complicated system involving many things, including systems to protect against the damaging reactive oxygen species produced in the process. It would make much more sense to initiate an endosymbiotic event with cyanobacteria or some kind of algae via immune tinkering than attempt to re-invent the wheel with a panoply of new genes.
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 No.482111

>>482100
This is an interesting choice.

You are right making the cellular machinery to get all the biochemistry worked out will require some doing. However people use oxygen too. If you can get it into O² form, you can just dump it into a blood-vessel and it's attach to a red blood cell. It'll get metabolized.

While algae require none of that, herding cyanobacteria and making sure accidental mutation do not result in detriments to the host isn't without it's challenges either.
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 No.483658

>>482083
>>482100

The molecular shape of hemoglobin is the same as that of clorophyll from what I studied in high school biology
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 No.483660

>>483658
Only the metal-containing heme groups and the active site of chlorophyll molecules are similar. They contain a different metal though and their molecular function is radically different.

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