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Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engles Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.


> our political ideology
I'm not a Marxist though


Pathetic attempt at holding people from reading. Pull your faggy soyboy face off with a knife and eat it


Also you should read Losurdo.


Welp, might as well start with absolute beginners tier, lol.



Nice attempt at idpol. Stalin wasn't black.


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some guides/lists


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Feel free to post a reading list for your own poltical ideology




Based. This whole board needs more reading. How about adding some ML content? I see the Lenin list and some Mao in the MLM list, but maybe some Stalin and other MLs? These are good books for starters:


Hopefully someone more well read than me should suggest more books, these are the only ones i've read.


Stalin's collected works' magnet


>inc Mein Kampf


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IIRC: Principles of communism seems to imply, so far, that the proletariat was unique to the 19th and 20th century. Does this imply that the current working class is not proletarian?

Also there's an interesting section about manufacturing workers, self employed types, that distinguishes them from both petty Borgeious and Prolotariate.


This is a good thread but very bad that it was posted by a mod. Remember we're supposed to be a non-sectarian board?


Not sure what you mean by that. It is true that a lot of the conditions of the working class are now different to what they were (particularly in the first world), but the overall analysis still stands.

>The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital; whose weal and woe, whoselife and death, whose sole existence depends on the demand for labor — hence,on the changing state of business, on the vagaries of unbridled competition. The proletariat, or the class of proletarians, is, in a word, the working class of the 19th century.

The last line only implies that the proletariat was the working class that appeared in the 19th century. It does not say it is a phenomenon specific to that time. Notice what actually describes the proletariat: living off the sale of one's labor alone. That is still very much true of the current working classes.

In what way is the OP sectarian? Sure, it's more marxist focused, but it caters to various different tendencies, even Bookchinist communalism (not marxism). Not to mention, the mods have been gathering this list for a while now, yet no anarchist (or other tendency) posters have contributed in any way to the list. If anything it just goes to show that either a) anarchist posters are just completely uninvested in the board or b) anarchists don't read. In either case, the solution is not for the mods to bend over backwards to make reading lists for tendencies they don't know, but for interested posters to engage, gather and suggest material. Note the post above by one of the mods, expliticly saying contributions are still welcome.


I propose an activity: Anons post a leftist position they can't stand or despise and another from that position recommends the first anon a book.

I'll begin, I can't stand anarcho-primitivists, can an An-prim recommend a book.


probably the best youll get is Desert which is a good read and well written but in terms of real analysis and propositions is shit im sorry to say


Desert is not anprim.


thank you, I wanted more recommendations


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oh thank god this is back. this was always my favorite thread in the old leftypol.



Killing Hope By William Blum, a history of US Military and CIA interventions since WW2


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Ok so even if you ignore the uniqueness of the 19th and 20th century prolotariat as a mass of industrial workers how is it we are not fully certain that the prolotariate is not, itself,a faiding class in the 21st century or at least not as strong and therefore unable to rise to the challenge of communism? Are we not being more and more integrated into the manufacturing workers role? E.g: Computers are a good example of manufacturing prolotariat and we all have one of those. Or what about people who own capital in the form of stocks? Now that technology has advanced to a point where anyone can download robbinhood amd start investing does this not imply that the prolotariate has at least fallen into the margins of society?



I fucking hate maoism, can a MLM recommend me a book that is not a Mao book, that is not a Gonzalo interview, and that is not Moufawad-Paul ?




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Already did, hence why i'm not a maoist.


Mao wasn't that bad. I haven't read a super lot of him but i understand he had good revolutionary theory as far as practice goes.


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based thread


I want to know more about this too


the law of value series has been taken down from youtube

any mirrors?


Has it really.


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Gonna add some lists


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Not really reading, but still


Engels : Ludwig Fuerbach
Darwin: The Origins of the Species.
Daniel Dennet: Darwin’s Dangerous Idea
Plekanov: The Materialist Conception of History
Lenin: Materialism and Empiro-Criticism
Kautsky : Origins of Christianity
Paul Cockshott: How the world Works
Turing: Can a Machine Think
Althusser : Lenin and Philosophy
Daniel Dennet: Consciousness Explained
Claude Shannon: Mathematical Theory of Communication
Paul Cockshott, Allin F. Cottrell, Gregory J. Michaelson, Ian P. Wright and Victor M. Yakovenko: Classical Econophysics
Phil A. Neel: Hinterland
Paul Cockshott, Allin F. Cottrell: Towards a New Socilaism
Nicholas Shackel: The Vacuity of Postmodernist Methodology.
Smedley Butler: War Is A Racket
William Blum: Killing Hope U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II
Losurdo Domenico: Liberalism A Counter-History
Micheal Parenti: Blackshirts and reds rational fascism and the overthrow of communism


what do u guys think of Neue Marx-Lektüre


Bro…just don't


>Who the fuck is that?

heinrich n shit. monetary theory of value


originally spawned by Isaak Illich Rubin who was purged by stalin, but has gained popularity again.


>Now i'm even more curious
It isn't some forbidden fruit like you think. Just straight up retardation


Why's it retarded? Seems pretty straightforward to me. We can't have commodity exchange on a systemic level without a universal equivalent (money).
Therefore value can only be realized through this exchange of money, not just created in a vacuum of production.


This by far doesn't cover it buddy. They have far more to say than that. Their line of thought essentially brings you back being an armchair analyst


Hello, to clarify, the reason that MLM and Leftcoms specifically have their own sections on our list is those are the only people that contributed so far. If you think there should be an anarchist reading list (or whatever) then please give some suggestions for your ideology and we will add them.


What I've read just emphasized the role of money for value, what are you referring to?


Explain verwertung in your own words.


Actually a great list for the modern communist


Black panth party lit


>Classical Econophysics before Towards A New Socialism
Lmao what?? TANS would be a much better book to read first than Classical Econophysics since TANS was written for the average person in mind whilst Classical Econophysics is more esoteric and dense book.


>Actually a great list for the modern communist
It's not a complete and carefully curated list, this was adhoc. you might actually want to read other stuff too like Marx's Capital for an obvious example
you don't have to read it in that order. I guess you are right TANS should come before Econophysics


I gathered it was kinda rough. I'm sure the cybersoc thread could expand it into 2 lists, one scientific and one more political (lenin, althusser, parenti, etc)


>What will this new social order have to be like?
Above all, it will have to take the control of industry and of all branches of production out of the hands of mutually competing individuals, and instead institute a system in which all these branches of production are operated by society as a whole – that is, for the common account, according to a common plan, and with the participation of all members of society.

>It will, in other words, abolish competition and replace it with association.

<Moreover, since the management of industry by individuals necessarily implies private property, and since competition is in reality merely the manner and form in which the control of industry by private property owners expresses itself

<it follows that private property cannot be separated from competition and the individual management of industry. Private property must, therefore, be abolished and in its place must come the common utilization of all instruments of production and the distribution of all products according to common agreement – in a word, what is called the communal ownership of goods.

<In fact, the abolition of private property is, doubtless, the shortest and most significant way to characterize the revolution in the whole social order which has been made necessary by the development of industry – and for this reason it is rightly advanced by communists as their main demand.



You k ow engles really makes it sound like economic planning was not to plan for production A-priori, rather, to have an economic plan for production after the fact: Meaning qe produce, or, literally as engles puts it: Over produce and the we plan out the distribution of our over production or the distribution, to a degree, of our production in general.


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except if you're overproducing then you're wasting labour. distributing surplus after the face sounds production anarchy-y


I guess, perhaps. It still doesn't sound to me like the distribution and production of resources is planed out in totality though. I think you have to allow for some anarchy fundamentally in some way. Look at the passage:

"There will be no more crises; the expanded production, which for the present order of society is overproduction and hence a prevailing cause of misery, will then be insufficient and in need of being expanded much further. Instead of generating misery, overproduction will reach beyond the elementary requirements of society to assure the satisfaction of the needs of all; it will create new needs and, at the same time, the means of satisfying them. It will become the condition of, and the stimulus to, new progress, which will no longer throw the whole social order into confusion, as progress has always done in the past. Big industry, freed from the pressure of private property, will undergo such an expansion that what we now see will seem as petty in comparison as manufacture seems when put beside the big industry of our own day. This development of industry will make available to society a sufficient mass of products to satisfy the needs of everyone."

It pretty much seems to me like he is saying "over production is actually good as long as the over production is planned for accordingly.


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it's expanding production that he's talking about as a good thing though. and we should keep in mind that we have the climate situation to deal with, so there are limits to which industries can actually be expanded. there's also a bit of language wrangling to be had over what "over"production actually means in a planned economy. agriculture will tend to have overproduction as a rule if we plan for the worst case and so always get bountiful harvests (relative to needs)


Computers are not "proletariat". The proletariat is a specific class of people within the system of capitalism. Computers are not people. As for people who own stocks, if their relations to the means of production is still having to sell their labor for survival, it doesn't matter that they own a few shares. Their status is still one of being a prole.




indeed. additionally, machines do not create value


I didn't say computers were Prolotariate: I said engles defines a Prolotariate aa one who literally only sells his labor to survive. He makes a clear distinction between people who make a living off the internet; self employed people and a difference between people who hold stocks; and people who live off their own labor. He makes a clear distinction between them.


is it boring



I enjoyed it.


It's a thread anon just post them here


based, you did good

now keep on reading


What De Leon texts would you recommend.


Has anyone red the Grundrisse. The text seems even longer than capital. But from what ive skimmed it seems a bit more straightforward and easier to read


I think Samir Amin deserves a mentioning if Foster gets one, no?


why do I seemingly get burnt out on even reading like twenty pages a day

i want to read more in general because im kind of a dumbass but I also want to be well read enough to push back on libs and fascists but I can't seem to get to the point where I read like a few books a month


have you tried with audiobooks?


Set aside a block of time everyday during which you read a set number of pages. for me this is an hour or two before going to sleep.
You may also benefit from briefly switching genres. IDK what you consider to be light reading, but try some fiction books to get up to speed before returning to history/theory.


oh, yeah, but the two audiobooks I tried I can barely even focus on anything because the narration was so fucking SHIT

i figured audiobooks would be cool for me since i listen to podcasts and random lectures on YT at my wagie job and retain almost everything but it's not the same


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Hey /leftypol/. Just passing by to let everyone know about /read/: a collective of reading groups from /edu/. We host various different reading groups, and hold discussions over Matrix. If anyone here wants to discuss works of theory (such as those in the OP - note we're the authors of the Introduction to Marxism list), come on over to our Matrix. One of our groups just got done reading Capital vol1 and will be moving on to Lenin soon. Meanwhile, another one of our groups is gearing up to read Capital.

We have a Matrix community for discussion and a little website for our library and reading schedules. If you are interested, see our thread for the details >>>/edu/5912

I would also encourage anyone to post theory questions and threads over on >>>/edu/, a sadly underutilized board.

Without revolutionary theory, there can be no revolutionary movement.


based theory nerds /edu/cating leftypol


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Thoughts on this book?


Never heard of it.


I have the pdf in Spanish, there are like 350 pages.
I still don't read it, don't know if it's worth it




fuck marx
fuck engels
fuck authoritarians
fuck communism
fuck you




Cope and seethe


>Wanting to abolish authority in large-scale industry is tantamount to wanting to abolish industry itself, to destroy the power loom in order to return to the spinning wheel.
what did that faggot mean by this?


>You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible.
>t. state-worshipping karl marx
a despot, classicist zealot, and preeminant national zocialist




>fuck authoritarians
ok boomer


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this gentleman has not seen a revolution


You can't sage a sticky. You know that?


yeah, i just forgot to remove it


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>All this MLM but not a single Cockshott or Parenti book


Cockshott good
Parenti is nothing but a shill though. Kind of like the """""""""""""""intelectual""""""""""""""" equivalent of watching a review that you know it's going to be positive to reinforce your view


There is a empirical marxism reading list somewhere around here




I mean he is a Historian that does a very good job at collecting positive facts to counter Anti-Communists. For a newbie, he is perfect. Why does /leftypol/ always need to shit up the party?


seems pretty obvious, especially in context, since he spells it out very explicitly with examples. having no authority to manage whats happening with heavy equipment on a shop floor would be a disaster


Post it you fucking retards. Do you need some one to hold your soyhands?


Parenti is a pseud


This is why nobody likes you retards.


Recommend Parenti to your lib friends all you want, he's a great polemic writer. But if we're trying to educate Marxists, thinking people, we shouldn't suggest subpar or sloppy writers.


>But if we're trying to educate Marxists, thinking people, we shouldn't suggest subpar or sloppy writers.
Holy LARP. This thread includes an Introduction to Marxism and an Absolute Beginners list. What is this retardation? You want to alienate everyone from your retarded reading groups?


>Recommend Parenti to your lib friends all you want, he's a great polemic writer
That's how Parenti is recommended you retard. Nobody claims he is the highpriest of marxism
Yeah, I don't know what his problem is


> Nobody claims he is the highpriest of marxism
Except tankies


I don't know why people talk shit about the manifesto.
It's actually a very well written text.


Why hasn't this been included in the OP? It's not strictly leftist but it's full of history books that are organized (by me). Someone put it in the list of previous leftypol boards iirc



Actually if you added some of xi's work here or deng that would be appreciated.


kek, why those two in particular? I haven't added books for a few years though, tbh. And i never got into adding books on communist china too much, only the republican period.


Tbh i half way find myself agreeing with dengoids and half way not. I also like xi as a leader in and of himself and find his long history with the party to be note worthy.

I figure i should probably actually read the men before full on making my declarations about them. After reading mao ofc.


I see. well you can try libgen, of course. I ultimately just compiled books from there. I've wanted to take up adding more and organizing the collection again but it's time consuming and I am not a NEET anymore. I really wanted to add more leftist history and theory too but never got the chance


am i stupid or does anti oedipus make no fucking sense

keep in mind i've read like 3 books in my life


>Patricia Crone
>Crawford Gribben
Some… odd choices


lol u mad bro?


Here you go


I can’t stand communalists. Can a bookchinite anon recommend me a book? (hard mode: not the new revolution, I’ve already read that)


Does anyone here have a PDF of “The Politics and Economics of the transitional period” by Bukharin? Marxists.org doesn’t have it any everywhere else is paywalled


I easily found it on libgen




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There are lots of great theory recs ITT, but who are the best left-wing (I mean really left-wing, not just liberal/succdem) fiction writers, and what are their best works?


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I liked this when I read it 10 years ago
basically a story of a missionary attempting to spread their religion in the congo in the 50s or somewhere around there
things go horribly wrong


I actually read that in AP English, and now that I think of it it was pretty redpilled on neocolonialism. I'll add it to my list.


>Patricia Crone
In the middle eastern section? Not all of her work is discredited, right?
>Crawford Gribben
had to look it up, but i assume he is in the ireland section? I had wanted to start by putting books on northern ireland (ideally I would like to put every single book on ireland in there eventually, but that is ambitious), but I never got around to thoroughly organizing it. Generally, I just strip mind libgen on a certain historical topic and then organized them in a logical fashion, but that means there's a lot of blindspots where I put some shitty historians, though I like to think that I'm more knowledgeable than most people about this stuff


Brecht is definitely up Top 3.


No it's deliberately written to make sense only to a schizo. If you can't read that much, watch this vid. It's as decent as "youtube philosophy" gets


>actually, being skitzo is based

Why I come here, the.


What do you mean?


Depends. If you watch the video or read Deleuze, you can see that he is really criticizing this "LARPing" and commodification process of identity, ideologies etc. that we see so much on social media, especially leftist social media. Some things he says are alright


I still found it


Based. Bless you anon.


I come here for takes like this lol.


I mean…it makes sense in a way. Capitalism really is schizophrenic in its destructiveness


So if we don't want to be commodified like identities or even ideologies, we should become schizophrenic or stepping out of the boundaries?


I agree but just to clarify. What is the "fundamental nature" of the skitzo that makes him so difficult to commodify? And by ideological framing or grounding you mean a robust theoretical framework to reference, I assume? Something the ideology shoppers or people that take are obsessed with taking on identities, lack?



Post it you fucking retards.


Unironically valuable insight.


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It's fine but read the original too


Shitttttt, I forgot thia was a thing. I'll read that too. For sure.


>"On July 31, the physical distancing requirement changes. If a workplace has unvaccinated employees, an employer would have a choice under the new rules: require everyone to be masked and physically distanced, or require unvaccinated employees to wear a respirator such as an N95 and others to wear at least a cloth face covering."


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Hey /leftypol/, /read/ here. So we've had lots of whining about lack of a Marxist-Leninist reading list, but surprisingly few actual recommendations. The mods are willing to edit the OP if more stuff is to be added. So, how about we make a Marxism-Leninism reading list, /leftypol/?

In the /read/ chat we came up with a few suggestions for books of various authors which are relevant to MLism (regardless of whether or not they considered themselves as such).

- Foundations of Leninism
- Dialectical and Historical Materialism
- Marxism and the National Question

- History and Class Consciousness

Che Guevara:
- Reminiscences of the Cuban Revolutionary War
- Socialism and Man in Cuba

We also thought of adding works by Ho Chi Minh and Antonio Gramsci, but we have refrained from doing so, as none of us are quite familiar with their works. Anyone have suggestions?


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For Gramsci we found this neat book by Foreign Languages Press which seems interesting. Pic related is what's in it.

Is this a good suggestion for an introduction to Gramsci's works?


Why does the Marxist.org intro to wage labor and capital shit on The LTV? Lol


Anyone has this book either in spanish or english? I swear i can't find it anywhere


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It's on libgen.


We should add a link to libgen, marxist.org and z-library to the OP so people know where to look for books.


>so people know where to look for books
I prefer physical books. What are some of the best publishers for socialists? Monthly Review, Verso are the ones I know about, but what else?


Not exactly a theory book, but I really like Stites' attempts at categorizing the grassroots socialist movements of the USSR manifested in utopian experiments, and how they were reinventions of old Russian utopian ideals in a sense.


>last pic


>British accent
piss off


Was cleaning my bookmarks and found transhumanistbunkerchan is dead. It was pretty embarassing as it was, but really? This is the replacement? A mold-infested interface peddlng same failed 150 year old shit? How many of you woke up at 5 am to catch the bus to the commie factory you lazy STD infested eunuchs? None.

And the rules of this site… hilarious
>Hey fellow commies, did you prep your wife's bull today?

Lol @ ''wife" … you fucking losers


(You) have aids and your wife is made for CCP


>32 page manifesto on the front cover


You people are all morons and need to read capital


The beginning is deceptively straightforward, then it hits the Chapter on Money and goes into Finnegan's Wake Territory


Cuz he's a moron who thinks that the problem with "socialism" in the USSR is that the state planners couldn't set prices right. Not only does he bend over for Stalinism, he even accepts the bourgeois critiques of "socialism" hook, line, and sinker.


Kys burger. The guy isn't even british, but it's not your fault your education system failed you


Citations needed you stupid trot


if anything you need to trim the marxist leninist stuff from the OP.

The absolute last thing a modern, new leftist needs is to be given a reading list of like 30 books published a hundred years ago. Capital is essential, but everything else is optional.


>pls stop making people read things i don't agree with
>it's unfair giving them the advantage to have them actually know about the shit i am just shitposting over


I'm writing a paper on India's independence movement, and I'm trying to find some contemporary works which debated the merit of violent resistance to the British. Gandhi wrote an article in 1929 condemning violence called "The Cult of the Bomb," which received a response in defense of violence from the Marxist revolutionary Bhagwati Charan, entitled "The Philosophy of the Bomb." I wanted to read both of these but I can't seem to find the actual text of Gandhi's article anywhere, only references to it in other works. Does anybody know where to find it?


If we’re accepting Parentis standards then articles in the Nytimes and Washington Post should be good enough ?


stay mad, my teeth are white and I don't bow to an old hag


I'm sorry, I thought you meant Cockshott. Parenti is pretty decent for the average normie that wants to go beyond social democracy. Idk why you are being so harsh a critic with him now


Do you need to be an autist in the reading thread?


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On libgen there is a file that contains a shit ton of Gandhi's writings in 100 volumes. I've been combing over it and haven't stumbled upon that particular article, but I have uploaded the volume here that covers the period during which he would have written it. Pic related is a denunciation of the event in front of the Indian National Congress that led him that led him to rwite the article, so I might stumble upon it soon. But this might suffice because I'm sure the material here mimics what he wrote in that article at the time


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Found the article! It was a few pages later


Archiving here for… reasons


John Smith- Imperialism in the Twenty First Century

should go in the Marxist essentials list


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Beyond based, thanks Anon.


good luck! were you able to find the philosophy of the bomb?


>The Philosophy of the Bomb
Are you sure it's by Bhagwati Charan? I found this but it's by Bhagat Singh


There's nothing wrong with reading at your own pace. As you work reading back into your schedule you're attention span will return. Read a page a day if you have to


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May I suggest a cute non-ideological book on the GDR (there is cool info on sex in Central Germany),
>Katherine Pence, Paul Betts - Socialist Modern: East German Everyday Culture and Politics
And this one,
>Fulbrook, Mary. The People's State: East German Society from Hitler to Honecker (Yale University Press, 2005)


already losing


Has anyone read any Franz Fanon? I’m thinking about reading his “Wretched of the Earth”, is it any good?


Yeah, it's based. So is black skins white masks


Yeah I found it on the Anarchist Library.
I've seen it attributed to a number of others, I mentioned Charan because that's who it was credited to in the book I'm reading on the Hindustan Socialist Republican Army.


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as someone who does not understand how national liberation is Marxist in any sense, that has only read some Lenin, what are some good books on Marxist national liberation?


I'll admit I haven't read either of those, but "non-ideological book on the GDR" seems unlikely to me.

The Wretched of the Earth (Fanon).


How do I start on Critical Theory?


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anyone happen to have a pdf of this?


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Nevermind, found it


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Has anyone else here read "Suicide Note" by Mitchell Heisman?

Here's the link to the text:
(Read pp. 32 - 625)

TL;DR: https://www.scribd.com/document/198985140/Mitchell-Heisman-s-suicide-note-overview

Alternatively you can listen to it while gaming: https://youtu.be/BiMZi5P7WJA



Maybe Paulo Freire's "The Pedagogy Of The Oppressed"?


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Is Carr's History still the go-to history for beginners? Others? Thx


I mean, just read Marx. But keep in mind that debating and rhetoric aren't tied to being right or correct. It's theatrical. If you want to pwn people in debates or whatever, learn to screech like the grifters do.


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There are a lot of islamists and naive leftists who don't know the history of Iran in this board. I suggest the former to fuck off and go back to /pol/ and the latter fuckers to read up.







Who is a better companion to kapital? Harvey or Heinrich. A companion I will read and probably never get to kapital itself because it's hard as balls.


They're both good. Harvey is more of an explainer, while Heinrich is more of a critical analysis/new reading. That said, neither companion really serves as a substitute for the book itself. They're made to be read alongside Capital, not in its place. It can be difficult, but there's no replacement for it. Seriously, read the book. It's more about persistence than being le big brain theory man.

Discussing with others and asking questions can help a great deal. For this purpose, there is a new friendly Capital reading group just starting over at >>>/edu/5912


not a marxist


Harvey butchers value (and in general misses a lot) and Heinrich rejects falling rate of profit as well as saying other wild shit. I enjoyed Cleaver's notes personally.


Also none of the companions really work as a standalone work. They are meant to be a supplement/clarification for your own notes.


He was pretty much a marxist. In western academia he isn't treated as one, sure. But consider that he read and drew great inspiration from the works of Marx, Mao and even the very short works of Ho Chi Minh and wrote extensive critiques of german idealism, not to mention his involvement with anti-colonial and anti-imperialist revolution. While perhaps not an explicit marxist, Fanon is marxist-adjacent enough that we can consider him at the very least a crypto-marxist. Marxist readings of Fanon seem much more fruitful than whatever "decolonial" academic libs seem to be doing with him.


>But consider that he read and drew great inspiration from the works of Marx, Mao and even the very short works of Ho Chi Minh and wrote extensive critiques of german idealism
So did Nick Land
>not to mention his involvement with anti-colonial and anti-imperialist revolution.
So did most right-wing nationalists from the third world, which is what Fannon is


t. coping westoid


sci hub has been frozen with no new uploads of papers since December 2020




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What are some great books on leftist praxis?


praxis guide: go outside


Can someone write up on good leftist extra resources like journals, magazines, blogs, publishers etc.?


How is the site called again, where one can get free files of all kinds of literary works? It was "lib"-something.




Z-library is another good place to check when you are looking for books.


Thanks, comrade.


semen please


I know someone who can help you with that




Any good audiobooks out there?


Nobody who reads could ever be a Marxist.
He’s right with his critics about capitalism but he’s horribly wrong on the solutions.


>but he’s horribly wrong on the solutions.
What are his solutions then. Go on and detail them please


t. never read Marx


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the killer of racists, fascists, right winger extremists and liberals

What are your thoughts on the USSR doing this or Communist supporters doing this?


>"Can't cook an omelet without first cracking a few eggs"
-Joseph Stalin


they arent human with right to live but eggs?




sounds like my anarchist phase




i read part of this and scanned through and it seems highly subversive, weaving valid points in with quick conflations trying to make division the book itself agrees are social constructs be equivalent to hard reality-derived divisions


What book would someone recommend to go in depth on why collectivism vs individualism is a false dichotomy?


it isn't though


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Does anyone have a good history book about the first red scare?


I don't mean it in a greed sense or anything like that, but more in that you can be collectively focused while still expressing your own individuality.


To often /leftypol/ thinks that because personal liberty needs to be partially suspended during a revolution, that because of this, personal liberty as a concept is inherently reactionary.


I wanted to post this as a joke in /b/, but honestly how do we start reading like 2 books a day? Some of the right is slowly becoming more intellectual in their bullshit, and it's becoming more obvious to me that you basically need to know everything ever to properly engage with them


This is your idea of a "sophisiticated" rightoid channel?


Yeah that's the thing, it's stupid but it's still presents the veneer of sophistication and when these people start spouting off about philosophy you better be fucking strapped or they'll just drown you in bullshit


I mean if this is your reason to finally read Hegel, then I won't interfere


hey hey I have found a few in the megas in this thread, but I am looking for a reading list/mega about american and/or european imperialism. I just want a book where the us is the bad guy. thanks


don't have a reading list, but check out Vijay Prashad's "Washington Bullets: A History of the CIA, Coups, and Assassinations"




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what are some basic hoxhaists texts?


you gotta read all philosophy books before reading delueze


philosophy reading list pls (complete and everything, fully so I understand Hegel and philosophy generally)


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Wealth of Nations and Capital: are they enough for understanding economics?
And about Ricardo, which book is his main work that I need to read?


Focus on those, you don't need to read Ricardo after Marx


>to dupe the masses with high-sounding phrases about peace in order to prepare for a new war; to dazzle the masses with the brilliance of “democracy” in order to consolidate the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie; to stun the masses with clamour about the “sovereign” rights of nations and states in order the more successfully to prepare for intervention in China, for slaughter in Afghanistan and in the Sudan, for the dismemberment of Persia
d- did Stalin just casually predict all this shit?


wait this shit was IN FUCKING 1924!!!???


>casually predicted
Anyone could've read the news. Imperialism started decades and decades ago. Hello, century of humiliation? Brits in Afghanistan? imperialism in India? Newfags lurk more.


>But even then the cul-de-sac stares one in the face. Look at England. The last new market which could bring on a temporary revival of prosperity by its being thrown open to English commerce is China. Therefore English capital insists upon constructing Chinese railways. But Chinese railways mean the destruction of the whole basis of Chinese small agriculture and domestic industry, and as there will not even be the counterpoise of a Chinese grande industrie, hundreds of millions of people will be placed in the impossibility of living. The consequence will be a wholesale emigration such as the world has not yet seen, a flooding of America, Asia and Europe by the hated Chinaman, a competition for work with the American, Australian and European workman on the basis of the Chinese standard of life, the lowest of all – and if the system of production has not been changed in Europe before that time, it will have to be changed then.

Engels predicted reform and opening up


Adam Smith writes like shit and I don't think there's much to be gained from reading him, you'll get the gist on both him and Ricardo by reading Vol 2


just nietzsche, spinoza, marx and maybe bergson (though i never bothered), stop to appreciate artists he namedrops


Haven't read it but there's a book called Savage Peace by Ann Hagedorn that covers the chaos of 1919, including race riots and the red scare


I feel like I should read more during my downtime in work instead of shitposting. Is there anyway to make it more pleasant on the eyes other than just going through the pdf in adobe?


e-readers are great, highly recommended. if you're short for cash you can find a used kindle for a good price


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I think the best you can do on a computer is to lower your screen brightness and maybe use a blue light filter (although it's questionable whether they even help). Using epubs instead of PDFs is also good as Adobe Reader is an absolute piece of shit and epubs can be quite comfortable to read. Of course none of this compares to physical books or ereaders, so perhaps try to get a cheap Kobo or maybe a Kindle.


Are e-readers that much better? I like to read on the phone because it's like right there and I can go on libgen and immediately download stuff


There is an ereader thread on /tech/ with recommendations
I love my ereader because it reads epubs, mobis, and pdfs, and the battery life is insane.
I get most of my books from 1lib, but sometimes i go out of my way to look for .epubs


the thing about ereaders is that they don't use regular backlit displays which fuck with your eyes, but e-ink displays, which resemble real paper more. it's a very different experience.


I prefer to read actual books when I can for sure but I'm in an office I can pass off reading on the screen as working. I've tried out using an epub instead and it does seem better for sure so thanks on that front.


Buying an eReader and pritaing books is cheaper than buying paper versions and much more pleasant than reading on your computer screen


>Harvey or Heinrich
Here is a quote from Capital, chapter one: "Skilled labour counts only as simple labour intensified, or rather, as multiplied simple labour, a given quantity of skilled being considered equal to a greater quantity of simple labour. Experience shows that this reduction is constantly being made. A commodity may be the product of the most skilled labour, but its value, by equating it to the product of simple unskilled labour, represents a definite quantity of the latter labour alone."
When the products are exchanged in the market, the product made by X hours of skilled work is usually worth more than the product made by X hours of unskilled work, so some quantity of skilled labor is equated to some (bigger) quantity of unskilled labor in the market. Harvey's comment: "Marx never explains what ‘experience’ he has in mind, making this passage highly controversial." Then more confused rambling follows.

Here's a quote from the foreword of Capital: "The value-form, whose fully developed shape is the money-form, is very elementary and simple. Nevertheless, the human mind has for more than 2,000 years sought in vain to get to the bottom of it all…"
Heinrich says repeatedly that value is specific to capitalism.

These people aren't helping with understanding anything. I say just read Capital. Take your time, don't make any rules about reading X pages per day, just pick up the book regularly.


None. Harvey is a dumbass who denies that Marx had a LTV at all. Heinrich is just as stupid. Just read the book, working class people in the 19th and 20th century read it on their lunch break. Also saying 'kapital' is a LARP








remove name


Just be a chad and read both and come to your own educated conclusions. Don't be afraid to go against the grain if you disagree with some of the remarks made. Marx has been interpreted and will continue to be so for a long time and there won't ever be a perfect reading of him. Classics like Capital are read and reread because new bits make impressions that didn't before.




it is stickied you dummy, always has been


been getting into theory and recently got Value, Price and Profit + Wage Labour and Capital. i am just wondering what the utility of reading this is if labor theory of value is false? or is that porky propaganda? there seems to be a good amount of valid points against it


any book recs on planned economy?
especially anything regarding OGAS?


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Short answer: Keep on reading. Then read Capital.

Long answer: There is no simple answer to the question of the LTV's validity. There are two main ways of dealing with this, I would say. Some of those in the tradition of so-called Marxian Economics have brought out empirical evidence of it. Cockshott is an example of this, and he is quite popular on this board, as I'm sure you've seen. Other thinkers, like the Neue-Marx-Lekture people, point out that Marx wasn't really an advocate of the LTV as it is normally understood, as that was the theory of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, etc, and Marx was really criticising it. These people prefer to present Marx's theory as primarily critical, not descriptive in a positive sense. Michael Heinrich is a representative of this kind of theory.

Here's a video of Cockshott discussing the labor theory of value and his take on its validity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnYMfjYh1Q . Attached are a few PDFs from Cockshott + Cottrell arguing in favor of the LTV and a PDF of Michael Heinrich criticizing so-called Marxian Economics. I don't fully endorse either position, just posting them so you can get a wider view of these things.

Ultimately I'll tell you to keep on reading what you are reading, as it is very important. And read Capital, as it is the most important book you can read regarding these questions.


holy shit, thanks a ton. really appreciated


Got any recommendations for rightoids on idpol and the culture war, urban rural antagonism, neoliberalism and the nation-state, what role liberal civil society has in capitalism/imperialism, how nationalist populism relates to imperialism and if it's 'fascist'


The Managerial Revolution by Burnham. All of Burnham is fine for paleocon stuff.
Leviathan and its enemies by Samuel Francis.


I meant marxoid stuff for the record


Unironically the cultural Marxists like Adorno and the culture industry


You really don't need books to figure out the standard perspective of many of these issues.
Most Marxist theoreticians died before ever seeing this stage of capitalism; in any case you can get the main perspective by just browsing the site of literally any communist group or website regardless of sectarian differences.
Generally the line is:
<Neoliberalism was inevitable since the falling rate of profit caused the dissolution of the post-WW2 consensus which itself was an abnormality in the overall history of capitalism since capitalism always been barbaric
>Urban-Rural Antagonism
Any serious Marxist will admit that forced collectivization is necessary and that the peasantry/farmers do not factor into classical Marxist class analysis. Lenin's tactical considerations such as land reform and NEP may be resorted to if necessary, but the overall goal to address rural/urban antagonism is to prole-atize the countryside by forcing all agricultural workers to get onto state-managed collective farms and to establishing a basic standard of living and benefits to avoid alienation.
>IDPOL/Culture War
You already got everything you needed by browsing this board - basically all culture/race/etc. issues are distractions and convenient diversions organized by or seized upon by the ruling elite to avoid economic questions; I think Marx(?) or some other socialist talked about this when he remarked on the uselessness of the pro and anti-Prohibition debate as sucking up time and energy and distracting people from actual pressing problems.
>Imperialism and Liberal Society
Unironically just read The Grayzone or follow their writers or even just MSM and highlight a work every time it mentions "human rights" "humanitarian intervention" etc. for examples on how modern day liberal signaling cues are utilized in service of imperialist objectives.
>National Populism vs Fascism
Too many people have too little grounding in Fascism, specifically historical fascism in Italy and Germany and how it played out, so I would actually recommend two books in this case:

1) Fascism and Big Business by Daniel Guerin
Goes over the two most famous fascist regimes in history by utilizing sources from that period (including the Fascists' own periodicals and newspapers) and analyzing what they were really (materially) doing. This is a pretty short read so I'd recommend this first.

2) Wages of Destruction by Adam Tooze
Entirely focused on Nazi Germany, Tooze advances a thesis of how the Fascist outlook of Nazi Germany's society and leaders led inexorably to war and imperialism.

Having developed a better understanding of historical Fascist regimes, their characteristics, and how they came to power, you can then utilize your own brain and your own analysis of modern "Right-Populist" or nationalist political movements to figure out whether or not they really are Fascist. I'll leave it up to you but this is something you have to decide for yourself.


Thanks anon
I just need stuff from a marxist perspective to make sense of the conflict between liberalism and populism


>Any serious Marxist will admit that forced collectivization is necessary
Whoa hold on there. Wtf are you saying right now? Is forced collectivization the reason why the USSR lost its dual-power base of workers and peasants? Some theorists even argue that this was the reason the bureaucracy could become as bad as it did


>Is forced collectivization the reason why the USSR lost its dual-power base of workers and peasants
Not at all, collectivization allowed peasants greater participation in soviets


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This is not a joke or a shitpost but I'm finally starting Capital Vol 1 and I kinda don't want to because I feel like it's going to alienate me from other people even more

like what the fuck type of dude gets a girlfriend reading this shit


>what is citizenship


Hey bros I’m a newbie to philosophy and I wanted to know if it was better to start with: Camus, la Boetie, Plato, Sartre or Vaneigem.


Raul Vaneigem because he is very easy to read. If you plan on reading the Situ's you will get a better all around understanding from him as a beginner than you will anyone else.


Thanks! I also thought about Freud, Rousseau or Badiou but they're longer and harder I think


If the ideas Vanegiem portrays interests you I'd move on to Debord and probably get the Situationist Anthology if english is your first language. It's probably the best one to have.
https://www.akpress.org/situationistinternationalanthology.html In fact i'd say it's a very good one to start with, too.


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>>441293 (me)
Oh, and don't let any sperg intimidate you out of reading them through an irrational froffing hatred of 'post-modernists'.
I know it shouldn't be said but it seems all to common in modern day.


Anyone got anything for the history of Arab and Chinese nationalism, Latin American and African anti imperialist/populist movements, and communist interactions with these?


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>The Jungle - Upton Sinclair
Upton Sinclair's dramatic and deeply moving story exposed the brutal conditions in the Chicago stockyards at the turn of the nineteenth century and brought into sharp moral focus the appalling odds against which immigrants and other working people struggled for their share of the American Dream. Denounced by the conservative press as an un-American libel on the meatpacking industry, and condemned for Sinclair's unabashed promotion of Socialism and unionisation as a solution to the exploitation of workers, the book was championed by more progressive thinkers, including then President Theodore Roosevelt, and was a major catalyst to the passing of the Pure Food and Meat Inspection act, which has tremendous impact to this day.




Aw fuck lol






Blood Lies by Grover Furr


We have a reading sticky anon, but, hey i am never against a good reading thread.




>bumping a sticky


>My little pony weirdo

<Telling anyone they have never had a job.

Take it to the right wing debate thread weirdo.


Lmao in literally at work right now you retarded pony fag.


>Check out the /edu/ thread at https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html
thanks anon, I will. in fact, that website seems a lot better than this one. Think I'll stay there


The Labor Theory of Value can be scientifically proven, while supply and demand curves cannot.




can you dg grogger?


nawwww nawwww


new book pdf


Holy shit, it's finally out?


nice selections


I finally decided I need to stop being such a brainlet and actually do some more reading since it's been a while, so last night I started reading Social Reform or Revolution by Rosa Luxemburg last night. The themes discussed and the positions she argues against seem to show that nothing has changed, or at least nothing positive against capitalism. The working class is still cucked and the majority still claim that things will suddenly change on a massive scale if we ask nicely


Can you post a PDF? I think I'll join you. I've been easing manga and I need to start actually reading a good book for once.


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Based and red pilled thanks anon.


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Don't thank me, thank Rosa Luxemburg




I have a bf who's just as much of a sperg as me, just more about nuclear plants and the NT kernel and less about revolutionary things(he aligns with what I say sometimes, other times drinks CIA Kool-aid).


>NT kernel
sounds pretty gay unless he's into penetration testing tbh fam


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What a load of pathetic garbage. You commies sure are a bunch of loser squares. No one wants to read this irrelevant trifle. The authors of almost all renowned communist literature lived in a completely different economic system to ours, in ancient unfamiliar times. It's worse than the Bible. It's an impediment to leftism.


>Jesus Christ look at all the words


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Now he's into algae and how it can be made into fuel efficiently.


Does something like a Hershey's Kiss really never incur as much labor as a pencil? This is a really specific question that might be unanswerable, but that's something surprising to me.


Between mining, processing and transporting graphite, cutting, milling, and treating wood, the paint and all that goes into making that, synthesizing the rubber for the eraser, producing and punching out the alloy that forms the little metal bit that holds the eraser in place, and doing everything that is involved in packaging and distributing the finished product, yeah, I imagine that the pencil contaims more socially necessasry labor time.


What the fuck is with liberals and making this pseudo-racism argument about cops in saying that "you can't make mass judgments about every cop because there are a few bad ones. What if I did that to your group?"

I could say "I ain't choose my skin color, they chose their profession," but that feels insufficient. Is it?


A better response would be, "if most of them were good, then there would not be any bad ones."


Most don't really choose their profession either per se.


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heck yeah火炎焱燚, America is the only thing holding/forcing capitalism worldwide.


Hello, commies! My brain came to the conclusion that I must read commie propaganda. But being a slothful person, reading long books is not my goal in life. So I was wondering: what are good, short commie books? I am currently reading the red book, then I will read the manifest of the commie party and then I will read a book by rosa luxemburg which I can't find in english (un po' di compassione). Anything else, around the 100 pages?
Cops are trained to be evil, because criminals are (very often) not cooperative people.
I had to interact with cops very often during my youth, and I can tell you that they are meant to act assertive toward the fellon, while condescending toward the victim.
Someone who is not able to pull off such a masquerade would not become a policeman. Someone who can't scream "FBI OPEN UP" effectively will not become an FBI agent.
The only counterargument you can present is that they must do a quiz before becoming a policeman, where they are "tested" on the topic of morality. Other than the fact that these tests are flawed because they are multiple choice quizzes, the interaction with the culprit is, as I said, preferred to as raw as possible.
If you wanna read more:
TL;DR cops are trained to act as good people only toward good people.


Apart from the Marx & Engels Reading List above, I don't really know what to tell you.


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Here's a complete take down of Zionism and Jewish Supremacist Elitism.
It took me forever to finish that bibliography, so when debating Zionazis and their Supremacist lackies, you better be referring back to it.
Now I've down Jewish Supremacism and Zionism, I'll be balanced and work on Islamism next. I am the last standing autistic warrior of 2000s Neo-Atheism.


Started reading this after you posted, it's quite shocking. I knew that Israel was extremely brutal towards Palestinians, but i didn't know about the internal brutality in their society. Like having a popular children's game about daring to get run over by cars.


I'm working on the (seemingly) first Spanish translation to Blackshirts and Reds, I'll make an audiobook version too once it's completed. What would you recommend to put it out there so it gets read and doesn't get lost?


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I don't know what license this has.

sites that host public domain license material
http://www.loyalbooks.com/ (lacks network encryption, your isp can see what you do on that site)

You can upload any text based book to Library genesis.
check this https://librarygenesis.net/ if the above domain doesn't work
If you have a shitty government, probably don't upload from your home internet connection to that site unless you use tor or a decent vpn like mullvad, don't get me wrong the site is great, but they don't censor any books which doesn't make them very popular with shitty governments

obviously you can also upload the audio book on video and audio streaming sites

relatively open platforms

more cooperate platforms
https://www.audacy.com/ (doesn't work in the EU)
https://open.spotify.com/ (might have malicious DRM shenanigans)

There's always torrent sites too, you can use those even if you don't have a peg-leg, eye-patch and parrot.
The Pirate Bay (TPB)
RARBG (died a few months ago, it spawned replaced sites but, you gotta be "in the scene" to know which ones are legit)
copy past these terms into https://searx.fmac.xyz to find the sites
If you go that route maybe ask somebody else how best to do this, my torrent knowhow is perhaps a bit too rusty to give good advice.


Amazing, thanks for the pointers.


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Any reading guides or just recommendations for DPRK stuff? Could be anything and everything really; actual juche ideology, history, architecture, daily life, inner workings of the state, etc. I just want to learn more about North Korea


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Quit spamming every thread with your desert fairy tales bullshit.


>>473158 Your gonna burn in Hell, you probably think its okay to be a faggot.


theres probably more gay christians than gay communists


Fundamentals of Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism, DPRK: Seven Decades of Creation and Changes, On Nationalism, Complete Exposition of the Principles of the Juche Idea are all great reads relating to the DPRK
Also if you want good documentaries Pyongyang Today, My Brothers and Sisters in the North are good starters
Some links






interesting docu thx for posting it


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