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 No.490487

Will Isreal nuke all the major cities in the middle east to expand and force God to armegeddon and bring back jesus christ?

or the religion is not real? or would nuking all middle east prove israels, evengelicals, or the arabs god or lack there of?
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>>490487
I think they might use nukes if they are invaded and about to lose.
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 No.490494

>>490487
>Will Isreal nuke all the major cities in the middle east to expand and force God to armegeddon and bring back jesus christ?
This is a bafflingly idiotic false dichotomy. The idea that the Christian concept of the Second Coming has anything to do with the Zionist nationstate called "Israel" is a lie made up to sell Zionism. Pre-Zionist Christian eschatology didn't hinge anything on a modern colonization project. Even the idea that a "Jewish return" would necessitate genocide was contradicted in scripture - it was a product of Zionists like Herzl (an atheist) and others whose plan was to colonize Palestine and forcibly remove the Christians and Muslims in order to do so. Zionism was gradually inserted into Christianity with increasing frequency during the 20th century, often very cynically, as in the case of the influential "Scofield Reference Bible," which was likely commissioned by a Zionist named Samuel Untermyer.

There are, today, Evangelicals in the US who would insist that this interpretation is the only one, but American Evangelicalism is basically a state religion with a bunch of political functions at this point, and stuff like Christian Zionism and "prosperity gospel" would, at other times, have been viewed as heresy.

On top of that, your question is built on a premise that only God as interpreted by Christian Evangelical Zionists is relevant to this question. I won't ask how old you are, but it's a really astonishingly naive premise. Even religious Jewish Zionists, who apparently exist, don't predicate their belief in God on the Evangelical Zionist narrative that killing all the non-Jews in Palestine will bring Jesus back and then all the non-Christians will burn forever. Jews don't believe Jesus was the messiah, of course religious Jewish Zionists don't predicate their religious or political beliefs on bringing back someone they consider to be a false prophet! They reject the New Testament! It's part of being Jewish. There are some Jewish people who believe Menachem Scheerson was the messiah, there were some Jewish people who believed Sabbatai Zevi was the messiah, but religious Jews in general do not believe Jesus of Nazareth was the messiah, so any conception of a "second coming" is dismissed.

Muslims believe in the Abrahamic God, and also believe that Jesus was the messiah and will return, but they generally reject the modern Evangelical Zionist idea that the colonization of Palestine will cause this.

Rastafari believe in the Abrahamic God, but many believe that the second coming has already occurred in the form of Haile Selassie.

Druze believe in the Abrahamic God, but afaik they were just minding their own business when Zionists colonized Palestine and they believe Hamza ibn Ali was a reincarnation of Jesus.

These aren't even all the Abrahamic faiths. Most of Christianity before Zionism, and pretty much all non-Protestant & non-Zionist Christian doctrines, rejected and reject this specifically Zionist literalist eschatology. In non-Christian Abrahamic faiths, this narrative is essentially non-existent. The idea that "Israel" is doing what it does with the goal of bringing back Jesus & immediately condemning "Israeli" Jews to Hell for rejecting him is nonsense.

Outside of Abrahamic faiths, it's even more absurd to predicate the existent of God on the genocide of Palestine by Zionists. Zoroastrianism, the oldest surviving monotheistic religion, reveres a non-Abrahamic supreme God called Ahura Mazda. Hinduism, the largest surviving ancient polytheistic religion, contains a multitude of traditions, Gods, divine avatars, and legends, but does not predicate the existence of these Gods or their philosophical relevance on modern Evangelical Zionism. There are a number of surviving 'pagan' traditional religions around the world (very few in Europe), and their Gods also don't depend on a modern ethno-fascist movement in western Asia killing & subjugating all the non-Jews. You'll find that most conceptions of God do not hinge on using genocide to summon Jesus, it's actually very rare.

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