/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>488693
Don't start wars you can't finish.

>>489008
It's astonishing that even in a thread like this, you're still the most bad faith and hateful poster participating.

There is no "Jewish question" Only retards deal in personalities.

>>488994
all israelis are fascist freaks. killing them all is a standard leftist position.

>>489014
Um excuse me
it's ackshually somewhere from 90%-98% of Israelis sir

>>488910
>could you define your terms
Neoprogressivism is 21st century progressivism, third- and fourth-wave feminism is mainstream feminist theory from the 90s onward (radfems, radlibs).

>>488914
Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s

>>488916
>Third/fourth wave feminism actually started in the 1980s
Yeah, my bad ig.

>>488914
i think it would be more accurate to talk it about a degenerated reprisal of the american left in the form of the millenial left, haunted by the failure and collapse of the left at the turn of the century
we saw the same militant identitarianism and youth fetishization of the new left plus its battles with old labour (think eugene debs) reemerging in sanders, but in a weirdly detached hipster way
its a cheap borrowing from history (a.k.a. a LARP) that doesnt match the same conditions which is probably why it comes off as so hysterical

Third wave feminism is way better than the abomination that was second wave.

>>488929
>>488932
/lgbt/ was added in response to a passing vote created by a regular user. If you do not want the /lgbt/ board to be on the site you can use this exact same process to remove it

Leftychan reminds you that we have a democratic process for changes to the site and its moderation. You are encouraged to propose and vote on changes on our Matrix

>>488948
Don't think he really wants to vote since he knows nobody cares so he wants to scream very loud for people to pay attention.

>>488948
Where is the vote and how can I participate? Thank you kindly.

>>488944
You can literally use the same reasoning to say that all that shit is contained to /lgbt/ and to keep it off /leftypol/ and other boards.

I'm honestly not sure what gay people need a board for but I don't see the harm.

>>488796
I agree with you. I am already of the opinion that we should join liberals in those issues in which we all agree, such as being anti-Trump. But one could say that leftists should simply start their own demonstrations, and not participate in liberal protests while not opposing them either. I am asking a question of strategy, not of principle.

>>488795
I reject the basic premises.

Firstly, the implication of signs like in that image is foremost that Trump is "Russian," with the "Communist" imagery mostly being used as a dumb "gotcha!" and appeal to nationalism. That doesn't mean that no liberals believe it earnestly, but even of those it's not the majority. So basically you have a minority who hold up "Trump = Soviet Communist = bad!" signs and then a minority of those people who earnestly believe, on an intellectual level, that Trump is a Communist. It's a minority of a minority of liberals. I don't deny that that minority of a minority are stupid in that specific way and are holding stupid signs, but every time a guy on an image board is like "look at this one guy in a group of 10,000 people, is this everybody?" it seems odd.

secondly,
>What I ask is this: do you think it is fruitful for American leftists to join liberals in anti-Trump demonstrations? Or should we instead have demonstrations of our own? Could liberal protests become an opportunity for educating liberals, or would attending merely make them more secure in their current ideology?
I reject the premise of all three of these questions.
It is liberals, by which I mean the DNC specifically, who have sought to co-opt the existing protest movement. Under Biden there were massive protests, under Trump they continued. Even these recent "Hands Off!" protests, which have been something the liberal establishment have heavily aimed to direct and co-opt (to avoid the Palestinian genocide and crackdown on anti-Zionism which is a project of both the DNC & GOP) have seen participation, and in some cases continued local dominance, by the anti-genocide demonstrators who people like Pelosi seek to drown out or infiltrate. The left has not stopped protesting. The momentum is something the DNC has lost and is cynically moving to steal. It is not ours to reach out to liberals or to segregate ourselves from opposition to Zionist tyranny and repression by the American state, it is ours to continue to build the movement which the liberal voters, by increasing discomfort at their material conditions under a psychotic American failed state, are now compelled to meet on the streets.

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>>488798
Are you american though?

>>488805
Yeah.

MAGA's working class base is more class consciousness and Communist than 99% of ""leftists"" out there. They associate Trump with Communism for good reason (his working class base which wants popular sovereignty, not Trump himself).

‘Cop City’ legal case could cast spotlight on US police foundations’ activities
In the Atlanta case, a judge is considering 12 hours of testimony, related case law and evidence in a lawsuit that concerns whether records such as board meeting minutes from the Atlanta Police Foundation (APF) are subject to the state’s open records law. If they are, they must be released to plaintiffs: a local digital non-profit news outlet and a Chicago-based research organization.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/11/copy-city-legal-case-police-foundations

Jewish students at Georgetown protest detention of professor Badar Khan Suri
Suri, a postdoctoral fellow at Georgetown and an Indian national, was arrested by masked federal agents following a Ramadan iftar in March. He is being accused by Department of Homeland Security officials of spreading Hamas propaganda.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/11/g-s1-59580/jewish-students-at-georgetown-protest-detention-of-professor-badar-khan-suri

The Social Security Administration Is Gutting Regional Staff and Shifting All Public Communications to X
“We are no longer planning to issue press releases or those dear colleague letters to inform the media and public about programmatic and service changes,” said SSA regional commissioner Linda Kerr-Davis in a meeting with managers earlier this week. “Instead, the agency will be using X to communicate to the press and the public … so this will become our communication mechanism.”
https://www.wired.com/story/social-security-administration-regional-office-elon-musk-x/
https://archive.ph/sr8pu

CDC denies help for lead poisoning in Milwaukee schools due to layoffs
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has rejected a request from health officials in Milwaukee for help with a lead poisoning investigation, after Health andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Rev Left Radio: m[BEST OF] What Is To Be Done? - V.I. Lenin
ORIGINALLY RELEASED Apr 20, 2019
What is to be Done? is a classic work on the role and organisation of the revolutionary party in the communist movement. Lenin criticises economism, revisionism and spontaneity, and argues persuasively for a centralised and professional vanguard of the proletariat. On this episode of Red Menace Alyson and Breht explain and reflect on the text, and then extract the core lessons for revolutionaries today.
https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/best-of-what-is-to-be-done-vi-lenin-1

(HOUDINI) Update on Malhoud Khalil: They Bet We'll Choose Fear. Let’s Prove Them Wrong.
This man is a permanent resident. Green card holder. His wife's a US citizen. By every measure, he's American. Doesn't matter if he wasn't born here—he's as American as I am, as American as anyone whose family's been here five generations. And they're deporting him. Not for crime, not for violence—for protesting. The US government's excuse? That letting him stay would "weaken efforts to combat antisemitism worldwide." Translation: The regime's ability to do imperialism depends on silencing criticism of Israel. They’re using "antisemitism" as a shield for genocide, for propping up a colonial outpost. And if saying that out loud puts me in legal danger, if it means I could get black-vanned next—then we’ve already lost. Let's be crystal fucking clear: Criticizing Israel isn't antisemitism. Jewish Voices for Peace—actual Jewish anti-Zionists—are defending Khalil. If they’re "antisemitic," then the word means nothing. (Side note: HOUDINI Magazine is named after a Jewish person, so miss me with that shit from the jump.) This is about ideas. Khalil's being deported for his beliefs, same as Italian anarchists during the 1st Red Scare. They’re making up excuses to disappear him because he spoke out. And if they can do it to him, they can do it to you. To me. To anyone.
https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=776101&title=update-on-malhoud-khalil-they-bet-we-ll-choose-fear-let-s-prove-them-wrong

Young Men ArPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488739
>UN says 36 Israeli attacks killed only Palestinian women, children in Gaza
Wait what ?

Everybody got mad they killed women and children, and they decided lets do only that ?
How did they even manage it ?

>>488746
>How did they even manage it ?
They didn't that shit is statistically impossible.

>>488676
>Cyber defense bill allows collection and use of private information without consent
>The bill under discussion states that the government may enter into agreements with private businesses, including key infrastructure providers and home appliance makers, to have them provide correspondence information.
The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology, they should be calling this "cyber-breach bill" instead. The US forced a backdoor into infrastructure providers too and the Chinese managed rummaging around for 2 hole years before they got detected.

Obviously the war on privacy is an egregious crime, and this should be viewed as a conspiracy not a legislative proposal. I think tho that as a means of repression it could backfire because these kinds of systems are inherently vulnerable to saturation attacks, basically people can use this to ddos the police.

Lastly if a mafia manages to use corruption to get access to this, they'll get the cyber-yakuza

>>488690
>The Chinese are known to "cyber-pown" countries with foolish governments forcing such gaping security holes into their technology
Known by whom? You shouldn't trust a fucking thing anyone says about state cyberwarfare after the Vault7 leaks. Here's why.

>>488698
Fair point, this pretty much negates attribution.

However the other point that backdooring technology is foolish remains true.

>>488678
>Breaking the Silence on Palestinian Armed Struggle
>On February 22, 2024, China’s Ambassador to The Hague, Zhang Jun, uttered the unexpected. His testimony, like that of a number of others, was meant to help the International Court of Justice (ICJ) formulate a critical and long-overdue legal opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Zhang articulated the Chinese position, which, unlike the American envoy’s testimony, was entirely aligned with international and humanitarian laws. But he delved into a tabooed subject—one that even Palestine’s closest allies in the Middle East and Global South dared not touch: the right to use armed struggle. “Palestinian people’s use of force to resist foreign oppression and complete the establishment of an independent state is an inalienable right,” the Chinese Ambassador said, insisting that “the struggle waged by peoples for their liberation, right to self-determination, including armed struggle against colonialism, occupation, aggression, domination against foreign forces should not be considered terror acts”. Expectedly, Zhang’s comments didn’t reverberate much further: neither governments nor intellectuals, including many on the left, used his remarks as an opportunity to explore the matter further. It’s far more convenient to assign Palestinians the role of the victim or the villain. A resisting Palestinian—one with agency and control over his own fate—is always a dangerous territory.
I almost overlooked this.

Wow that is unusually clear words for a Chinese diplomat.
I'm not well versed in assigning meaning to diplomatic tone. Anybody care to speculate ?

>>488728
>I'm not well versed in assigning meaning to diplomatic tone. Anybody care to speculate ?
What? There's not a whole lot of ambiguity here. This was said at the ICJ, it's a legal argument, and it's simply accurate.

Majority of Americans hold unfavourable view of Israel, Pew poll finds
According to a Pew Research poll published on Tuesday, 53 percent of Americans now express an unfavourable opinion of Israel, up from 42 percent in March 2022 - before the 7 October 2023 Hamas-led attack on southern Israel and Israel’s decimation of the enclave.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-americans-hold-unfavourable-view-israel-pew-poll-finds

House Republicans pass bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote
House Republicans for a second time passed a stand-alone bill that would require proof of citizenship to vote in federal elections and impose voter roll purge requirements on states.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5242559-house-republicans-pass-bill-requiring-proof-of-citizenship-to-vote/
https://archive.ph/4YjfL

Pro-Palestinian protesters at Stanford charged with felonies
Those charged, ranging in age from 19 to 32, entered the building and demonstrated a "conspiracy to occupy" it, prosecutors said, adding that at least one suspect entered the building by breaking a window. All suspects wore masks, they said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pro-palestinian-protesters-stanford-charged-with-felonies-2025-04-10/

US government has revoked more than 600 student visas, data shows
Some of these cases were related to their activism and participation in student-led protests against the war in Gaza, and others were for “minor crimes”. Inside Higher Ed says that the majority of college officials say they’re unsure why the foreign-born students had their visas revoked or have yet to receive formal notification of the changes. Most have still not received any communications from immigration authorities.
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Germany: the youth, Die Linke and the class struggle
Young people are looking for change, a dignified life and meaningful and secure work. This desire for a better society must sooner or later turn into class struggle. The electoral success of Die Linke has revealed the militant mood among young people. Shortly before the election, Die Linke was able to strengthen its reputation as a force for social justice and, above all, as a champion against racism and reactionary migration policies. The vote in the Bundestag between the CDU and AFD in favour of a racist asylum bill sent a shockwave through the youth. Die Linke countered this by saying that it would ‘take to the barricades’ against racism, austerity, rearmament and war. This was the central factor that enabled Die Linke to achieve its surprising electoral success. This promise to fight inspired a broad section of young people to get behind Die Linke. The party was able to build on the militant energy with which hundreds of thousands demonstrated against Friedrich Merz (CDU) and the AfD. Die Linke is perceived as a militant party that opposes the open racism and brutal austerity policies of the established parties in Berlin. In doing so, it has been able to tap into the concerns of a large proportion of young people. Yet Die Linke has been in a deep crisis for years. …
https://marxist.com/germany-the-youth-die-linke-and-the-class-struggle.htm

Gustavo Petro’s Final Year
The first left-wing government in Colombia’s recent history enters its fourth and final year with the same sense of instability that has accompanied it from the start, a result of its lack of a parliamentary majority and the relentless pressure from economic, media, and judicial elites. Some of the reforms promised in 2022 have been approved, while others remain stalled in a Congress controlled by the traditional parties, and the goal of “total peace” with domestic armed groups remains a dream. The outcome of the 2026 elections will depend on the final balance of the government’s reformist agenda, Petro’s ability to mobilize his supporters, and the conservative opposition’s capacity to unite behind candidates. The former M-19 guerrilla turned president is well aware that the streets are the battleground where he can outmaneuver conservPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Social Security abandons phone service cuts after backlash
The U.S. Social Security Administration abandoned plans to end phone services for retirees that would have started on Monday, following a growing outcry from advocates who warned that the changes could cause chaos and further strain the agency.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/social-security-abandons-phone-service-cuts-after-backlash-2025-04-09/

Republicans trying to change rules to avoid House vote on Trump tariffs
The sleight of hand was embedded in procedural rule legislation setting up debate on a separate issue: the budget resolution that is central to Trump’s agenda.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/trump-tariffs-house-republicans-rules

House votes to scrap Biden-era consumer finance rules
The Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday voted to scrap two consumer finance rules adopted under former President Joe Biden that capped bank overdraft fees and gave officials the power to supervise the legal compliance of tech companies' digital wallets and payment apps.
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/house-votes-scrap-biden-era-consumer-finance-rules-2025-04-09/

A pipeline company filed hundreds of lawsuits against landowners. Now its project is threatened
Lee Enterprises and The Associated Press reviewed hundreds of cases, revealing the great lengths the pipeline operator went to get the project built, only to be stymied in South Dakota by a groundswell of opposition from local farmers and landowners.
https://apnews.com/article/summit-carbon-solutions-carbon-capture-pipeline-midwest-lawsuits-landowners-6c410dad59ce4d5d6de5ff4962dd0913
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General Secretary of the Communist Party of Turkey Kemal Okuyan: Boycott, Republic and Revolutionary Stance
It is impossible for the discussions on “”Who’s part of the boycott, why are they included, and who’s in and who’s out of its scope?” not to shift towards “where does the capital start, where it ends”. One cannot dodge the truth. The leadership of CHP (the bourgeois main opposition party) can tweak its stance all it wants. Even some can keep dreaming of a united front against fascism with TÜSİAD (the principle organization of big capital in Turkey), and the government can keep shouting “they are waging a war on our national and domestic capital” — but the seal is already broken. Bourgeois politicians will scramble to seal things back up, but we won’t allow it. There’s no such thing as good or bad capital. Period. “
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/04/kemal-okuyan-boycott-republic-and-revolutionary-stance.html

The Russian oligarchy and the politics of social catastrophe
While Trump is interested in a deal that will allow the US to exploit the raw material resources of Ukraine and Russia at the expense of its imperialist rivals in Europe, he is increasingly dissatisfied with Putin’s dragging out the negotiations. Now, these tensions are exacerbated by a global trade war. A peace treaty, even if it is reached, no matter how much verbal guarantees and ostensible actions accompany it, will only be a temporary truce. Unless the working class intervenes independently, it will inevitably lead to a new war, even larger and more barbaric than the one that has been going on for the past three years. Moreover, the global trade war unleashed by Trump’s tariffs further deepens the political and economic instability of all capitalist governments and intensifies the global drive to war. In order to understand the class dynamics and the way forward for the working class in this volatile situation, it is important to review the current state of the economy and social relations in Russia.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/09/brcf-a09.html

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UAW President Shawn Fain explains why he supports Trump's tariffs
Fain referred to last Wednesday's announcement of global tariffs as "reckless," but firmly supports an earlier round of tariffs on the U.S. auto industry. Those tariffs both help and hurt U.S. auto companies, because they produce so much in Canada and Mexico. Auto parts typically cross the border multiple times as a car is assembled. GM has already said it will move some production back to Indiana — but Stellantis ordered layoffs.
https://www.npr.org/2025/04/07/nx-s1-5352409/trump-auto-tariffs-uaw-shawn-fain

Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs
The New Civil Liberties Alliance filed a suit against Trump’s imposition of import tariffs on exports from China, arguing that doing so under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) – which the president has invoked to justify the duties on nearly all countries – is unlawful.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit

Bogus report on tariff pause briefly lifted markets before White House denied it
The Dow Jones Industrial Average briefly erased a morning loss of 1,700 points, shot up more than 800 points and then went back to a loss of 629 points. The S&P 500 likewise made sudden up-and-down lurching movements.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-kevin-hassett-false-bogus-report-ad825e7d8c06514843821dfd898bd3f9

Mother and three kids released by Ice after protests from US ‘border czar’s’ hometown
A mother and her three children who were taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) agents as part of a sweep in the tiny hometown of the Trump administration’s “border czar”, Tom Homan, have been released following days of outcry from community figures, advocates and protesters calling for their freedom.
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Ukraine is a capital of freedom!
These are the very theses that every Ukrainian can see in the space of the own city. Since the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the authorities have begun to strengthen the theses about freedom and democracy. It is worth noting that during the times of "independence" in Ukraine there has never been an influential opposition. And the opposition, as is known, is an indicator that there is at least some kind of struggle between certain sides in the state.
https://libcom.org/article/ukraine-capital-freedom

Urban Ore Workers Fight for Fairness!
For nearly two years, workers at Berkeley’s only remaining salvage yard, Urban Ore, have been bargaining for their first union contract. Urban Ore workers unionized with the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) to advocate for living wages and better working conditions in their shop, and to join other workers in a growing labor movement that is fighting for the working class. But over the last two years, the owners of Urban Ore have focused their energy and money on fighting our union rather than bargaining in good faith for a fair contract.
https://www.iclcit.org/urban-ore-workers-fight-for-fairness/

Throwing Washington Overboard By Daniel De Leon ( During Spanish–American War)
Capitalism, threatened from behind by the Social Revolution, turns around to the uprising Proletariat, and with a sanctimonious scowl invokes the past as a sacred thing, to be worshipped and bowed down before. What?! Does the Socialist Movement want to break with the “time-honored” habits of the land? What?! Shall the principles of Americanism, consecrated by the Revolutionary Fathers, be done away with? What?! In horror the Pillars of Society throw up their arms, and the conviction leaps from their eyes that, as the Socialists have no reverence for the past, they must be wiped out. Nevertheless, we have again and again maintained that there is nothing more infidel than Capitalism; all its gods, its idols, its principles are readily sacrificed whenever it can thereby turn its sacred things into money. It came into the world decapitating everything in sight and out of sight; uprooting chPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>488674
>Bogus report on tariff pause briefly lifted markets before White House denied it
In other words how to do a pump and dump.

>>488673
>Sri Lankan police detain youth under anti-terrorist laws for opposing Gaza genocide
<Don't mass murder children !
<well well you must be a terrorist !

It's going to happen, eventually the word "terrorist" will undergo a dramatic change in meaning to "a person with humane ethical values". And the spelling will change to "terrurest", Yes that's oddly specific but i'm going with it.

>>488679
One more thing, organizing shouldn't involve paying money for anything other than your own expenses for projects your team is doing. If there's something concrete they want, they can set up a fundraiser for it.

I know these parties want you to pay them for newspapers and have a subscription model, but I really think they don't deserve it. More like… if it's a volunteer effort and I am volunteering I am already paying with my time.

If they want to generate money they have to produce something.

>>488679
Tbh the PSL is at least good at campaigning, their numbers in the 2024 election were like the highest any ML party has ever had in the US. Their mutual aid/outreach stuff is also a step in the right direction.

That said… the protest movement in the US has obviously failed to seize public anger and direct it into decisive action which can meet the urgency of the situation, and PSL, however much I respect them compared to the DSA (who don't even bring the kind of protest energy the PSL does, let alone anything more concrete), is not about to carry out the actions that are called for. We absolutely need new organizations devoted to that, and if I had the money I would put it towards defensive local organizing and decisive blows against the organs of state engaged in genocide. I feel a fucking fire inside which isn't satisfied by marching and making demands of those evil bastards in charge who won't listen, and it's not satisfied by posting about it either. The frustration that comes with knowing there are others who feel the same, but almost exclusively encountering people who are unwilling to act is profound. I'm sick of wasting time.

>>488684
I'll also add, and this is a bit mean, but it's difficult to think of a greater indictment of the American opposition than the fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day than people who spent over a year protesting and calling for strikes and (very) temporarily shutting down roads & ports with protests did. Like, nobody can say we didn't have time to pool resources for something big. Nobody can say we didn't have time to make real plans to take out arms factories and damage the infrastructure of genocide financiers on a large scale. Thinking about the kind of stuff the American orgs didn't want to do because they wanted to avoid breaking the law genuinely pisses me off.

>>488684
>>488685
>The fact that Trump did more to wreck the US economy in like a day
That might be a culmination of features built into capitalism itself all coming to a conclusion. I wouldn't necessarily compare what protestors can do at current levels of organization with what capitalism can do to itself.

I'm reminded by a quote from Lord of the Rings:

>Strange powers have our enemies, and strange weaknesses! said Théoden.
>But it has long been said: oft evil will shall evil mar

>>488686
I mean, there was gonna be a recession hitting between January and March 2026, anyway, sure, but Trump did kinda give it a big boost.

What I'm not seeing that much of is a real effort to prepare for an action which could cause damage like that. In the time the protestors have been protesting, we could at least have built something able to do much more damage than we did.