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 No.470267[Reply]

fuck wvobbly that fucking snake. anti-vol polemic? I'll show you fucking anti-vol polemic you limp-wristed lib
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 No.470269

wvobbly is a fag but not as faggy as your shitty rhyme. what the fuck are you on about anyway shithead
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 No.470465

Yeah, seriously OP, can you elaborate?
I have no idea what an anti-vol polemic is, is that something Wvobbly said? Is that a term I should know? I don't know what it is.
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 No.470466

Like I'm all for you illuminating me on what stupid bullshit is going on on .org now, but just tell me. This isn't .org, you don't have to mince everything you say into twitter size here, you can elaborate and I'll actually read it.


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 No.470122[Reply]

我爱毛泽东!
Mao Zedong is the sun of my heart!
Mao Zedong is the sun of the people!
Mao Zedong is the sun of the proletarian!
Mao Zedong is the Greatest Leader of History!
LONG LIVE THE GREAT PROLETARIAN CULTURAL REVOLUTION!
LONG LIVE MAO!
SERVE THE PEOPLE!
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 No.470281

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 No.470285

I hate AI so much
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 No.470288

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 No.470289

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>>470285
AI LUV u
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 No.470390

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 No.468102[Reply]

From Corbyn to Sanders and all their supporters. Why are "Parliamentary leftists" the biggest utter fucking cucks in human existence who seem to just take knife after knife stabbed into their back, but thank the Neolibs for doing it?
I honestly do not understand it, why don't these people defend themselves? It's honestly fucking insane the stubbornness the Parliamentary left will go to in NOT defending the left and themselves and against the most insulting smears and attacks.
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 No.468208

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Titus Vespasianus, do it again!
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 No.469741

>>468102
labour/democrats would rather fund and help elect a right-winger from another party than Sander/Corbyn

So why they choose to run in these parties is bizarre. But they piss off righties for doing so nonetheless. Ton of my righty friends got freaked out Sanders became head of Senate finance. There's a role for both internal and external pressure, but they aint gonna get elected in these parties.
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 No.469757

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>>469741
These are neoliberal power-brokers, they have no politics, they see all parties as nothing more than organizations with a hierarchy. And the higher the position in said hierarchy they can get to, the higher the price they can achieve for selling out.

They don't oppose people like Sanders or Corbyn because they disagree with them, they see these people as threats to their ability to sell out, or as something that could lower their payoff. For those that have a sense of fairness, it doesn't go beyond everybody having the same opportunity to be a shill.

They also think that everybody is motivated by the same selfish goals as they are. And they're just better at it. They might be a type of idiot savants, they are extremely skilled at rising through the ranks, but when they gain a position of power they aren't actually able to do the tasks that these positions require. They rely on somebody bribing them to push this or that agenda and other people to delegate tasks.

They don't process information about the world beyond the relevance for social climbing, that's a major reason why they do self-defeating strategies. For example they do economic policies that cause massive de-industrialization and push social policies that result in rising scientific illiteracy but at the same time they try to build up military power which relies on a big industrial sector and a scientifically literate population.

If you try to explain the material reasons to them why the things they try to do aren't coherent, they get really mad at you because they think you are trying to trick them into doing something that harms their career prospects.
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 No.469932

>2023
>still believing in politics
Either they get killed or they get corrupted (assuming they weren't power-hungry narcissist psychopaths to begin with).
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 No.470037

>>469757
Yep, in my early political days, did campaigning for Labour and holy shit the narcissitic weirdos you meet.
Pretty much all "young labour", "young Republicans", "young liberal" types are careerist, NPD/Psychopath freaks. You know it from talking to them as well.


 No.451809[Reply]

the other incel thread got derailed into age of consent shit-flinging, and furthermore i have a larger point so i will make a new thread. overall, i am of the belief that blackpill ideology and the materialist analysis of sex can be reconciled with one another. it is of my opinion that the reason so many incels are traditionalists stems from a fundamental false consciousness that has its origins in the truth of sex not having fully actualized

both black pill thinking and radical feminist thought share a fundamental kernel of truth: that sex based asymmetries are fundamentally grounded on the ownership of particular reproduction organs. other sexually dimorphic traits of the human species which are not primary sexual characteristics still play a role in job market, but as evinced from the fact that we still have unequal representation in jobs that do not require manually intensive labor, it should be clear that their role is far more minimal. there have also been posited psychological differences between men and women, but while they might have some explanatory power, there is a care that should be made, on how substantial these differences really are, which hasn't been had. my problem with this direction is that it uses a continuous distribution of neurodiversity in order to justify a bipartite categorical structure. furthermore, such an explanatory approach is practically inept, as it either suggests that nothing should be done in asymmetrical sexual standards, or an impossible regression in the material conditions of sex (id est, traditionalism). such a regression is, on one side impossible under hegemonic capitalism, and on the other hand, unlikely with current technologies (viz, automation, proliferation of contraception/protection from STIs, mate finding technologies like tinder, etc). this isn't to mention that a social-material regression would be predicated on women turning back on their material interests, which, without copious propaganda is unlikely. not only that, but many men either prefer to have women that are genuine intellectual and economic equals, or are simps who would rather prioritize the rights of women over their own sexual gratification

not only is standard traditionalism insufficient, but so is socialist approaches. the material conditions which produce asymmetries in sexual relations are mostly invariant to economic distribution strategies. we've had patriarchy since agriculture. technology and the reality of diPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.466629

>>466626
Well, I'm not an incel - not that it matters. Once rejected, always rejected. It will always be some bullshit.
If people really want to value this, they're only contributing to the nightmare. I wish I could say it's only their problem, but their problems become my problems because they're trained to go after me or anyone who wants to stay out of their faggotry.
You're not really "incel" unless you're in that hard lumpen class, and in that situation, your life is destroyed for far more than the lack of pussy. It's just a reminder of why the world is a living hell.
But go on. I don't know why you think you're going to win with your likely porn addiction or whatever pity sex you are getting, or why you think this ends well. Fags always revel in the rot.
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 No.466631

Seriously, I'm glad I didn't accept being a fag, which is one of the objectives of this rot. That's worse than anything I saw in the incel world, and that's saying a lot. That said, one of the fates for incels was to become a fag or troon out.
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 No.466740

Feminism is just liberalism for middle class white women.
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 No.466760

>>451812
SCUM manifesto has done more for both men's rights and women's rights than regular feminism has since it's inception by theory alone.
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 No.469989

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>incel/female question
just call em lesbians


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 No.461341[Reply]

<Xi Bros…. I don't feel so good

Over the past week or so, major protests have been escalating in China due to the Zero COVID policy. Apparently, Chinese visitors to the world cup were astonished that no one outside of China cares about the coof anymore, and shared their thoughts on WeChat, which has exacerbated existed discontent. Now, protestors in China are calling for the removal of Xi and the CCP. Maybe nothing immediate will come of it, but it does indicate that cracks in the social cohesion and unity in China are developing, and this may have longer term ramifications.
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 No.469946

>>462161
There's 100's of millions of middle class people in the US, Europe and Japan. Also the result of the people's glorious revolution?
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 No.469947

>>462161
>Measuring poverty by porky metrics.
Meanwhile urban poor Chinese are more precarious and live in shittier conditions than they ever did as peasants.
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 No.469951

>>469947
The situation with China internal migrant workers has improved tho.
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 No.469987

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>>469951
chins arnt human but hymen for the west
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 No.443868[Reply]

They are filled with conspiracy theories all over the net.

Interesting thing is how often they've been banned. China banned them, Franco spain banned them, Iran banned them, Nazis banned them, USSR banned them, papal banned them, Cuba banned them, hungary banned them. Goes on and on

What do you make of them?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry
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 No.444251

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>>443875
Yeah. The Freemasons emerged from medieval guilds in the Western world where apprenticeship is very important. Young people would choose a "master" in a particular field, and professionals would group up in guilds to protect themselves, like for carpenters and… masons. That was the basis for what became these secret societies of bourgeoisie in England in the 1700s. When it came to America, it was a secret society for bankers, judges, wealthy businessmen, and politicians.

>>443868
>They are filled with conspiracy theories all over the net.
Yes. I think ultra-conservatives dislike the Freemasons because they see them as spinning powerful webs to spark revolutions.

Today, I suppose the Freemasons are pretty old-fashioned now. It's like old men who want to get away from their wives, while the upper bourgeoisie today have the World Economic Forum and so forth. The right-wing conspiracy theories don't really talk about the "New World Order" either anymore but the "Great Reset." And this is viewed in highly Manichean terms, like an "evil" plot to enslave the world. But the people at the top of the capitalist world don't see themselves as evil. They think they're doing good for the world, or doing things that will benefit everyone, whether that's the reality or not.

But I'd almost say the Freemasons in the 1700s-1800s were like the Protestant bourgeoise's alternative to the Catholic Church's upper crust of priests and cardinals. And they were at odds with each other, because the Freemasons discouraged Catholics from joining, and the Catholic Church issued injunctions against the Freemasons. There are ultra-conservative Catholics who also feared a Masonic-Judaic alliance. Jewish bankers and merchants worked with the Anglo capitalists who were part of the Freemasons and so forth. I imagine that's why Franco banned the Freemasons. He was an ultra-conservative Catholic leader. The Nazis of course banned Freemasonry as they were reactionary ultra-nationalists.

>China banned them

They kicked them out of the mainland. The Chinese freemasons were tied up with the British and the KMT and are apparently still allowed today to exist in Hong Kong. And they havPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.454313

It's all façade and you still look too misinformed about them. Nobody here relates them with "the protocols of zion's elders" and this speaks alarming
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 No.454335

Do they even still exist?
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 No.454340

>>443868
Haven't been politically relevant since the 19th century.
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 No.469978

>>454340

They are most certainly still relevant. Social Media distractions, and cover-ups make people think they're no longer important. The WEF, WHO, WB are FULL of 33rd Degrees.

Zionists fund Freemasonry, so it won't die, but could be restructured to captivate Millennials and Zoomers.

The problem is retaining long enough to identify if MM are capable of becoming a 33rd (sociopathic tendencies).

Current generations are degens, mostly, and it's hard to find well-rounded and morally eskewed individuals that would join.


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 No.469824[Reply]

Is Foucault correct when he says that mass surveillance caused Cancel Culture ?
Has people being under constant observation and evaluation brought back puritanism in a new form ?

Do we need to create spaces that can't be observed, in order to generate good quality culture ?
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 No.469941

>>469939
treating other side as terrorist (popular by mods)
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 No.469959

You've always lived under "mass surveillance". The rulers are not blind and always have informants, and have always wanted to clamp down on any possibility of the little people having a single thing. The only thing that changed is that the masters have more eyes and more informants, and trained their subjects to be more eager to snitch. The only snitches who are punished are those who work against the lords' preferred thugs and gangsters.
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 No.469961

In other words, Foucault is an idiot making obtuse mystifications to pretend biopolitics is new. It was inherent in the imperial religion of the 19th century and everything the liberals and Nazis did, and implied by socialism and communism.
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 No.469975

>>469939
>Can someone define cancel culture?
A historic example would be the inquisition coming after you for opposing the crusades.

A contemporary example would be the radlibs harassing you as a something-phobe for not supporting rainbow-imperialism.
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 No.469977

>>469959
Interesting point, i guess class struggle has to contain an information element. So what exactly is the objective here ? Should the proles know more about the ruling class than the other way around ?
>>469961
Yes Foucault's writings are obtuse, but i don't think he's pretending this stuff is new.


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 No.469601[Reply]

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 No.469685

>>469684
Yeah that's true but this feels like they're just making a puppet and you're not supposed to notice the strings because you're marveling at the scifi aspect.
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 No.469686

>>469684
yeah but what happens when it's trained on a dataset of $$$democratic world leaders$$$
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 No.469934

>What are the political implicit of immortal legislators?
None, as long as nobody believes that any human (or robot) has the right to tell another human how to live his life.
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 No.469942

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>>469934
>it's all about BELIEVING duuudeee..
solipsistic brainrot
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 No.469948

>>469934
Lol, where have you been the last 20 years. Algorithms have been telling people what to do for years.


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 No.464982[Reply]

https://odysee.com/@Geopop:4/the-nuclear-energy-race-oliver-stone:5

Is Oliver stone correct about the new race for nuclear energy being led by China, India and Russia.

Is the west going to miss the boat ?
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 No.464999

>>464998
>Actually I would say the west is hiding it’s time until the neofeudal rent system becomes a immense inescapable reality
They can't make China submit to it, China is already to strong.
These people aren't the rulers of the world anymore.
>then industrialization will continue in a way that reinforces this reality
they're not playing 4D chess, they are loosing a game of checkers
>I don’t think they want to end industry period, they’re just stalling until it becomes beneficial to them
I get what you mean they want to blackmail industrial production to pay them rent, but all they can do is impose a rent burden on some industrial production that will than be out-competed by other industrial production that does not have a rent burden.

Marx made a pretty strong argument for why industrial power will in the end triumph over finance power.
What we are witnessing is a shift of economic power towards Asia, because the western capitalists are not keeping up with industrial investment.
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 No.469916

https://invidious.baczek.me/watch?v=3_64wOUbiPE

the Nuclear Now Film just released
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 No.469927

>>464982
>race for nuclear energy
What race?
The technology is ancient and (afaik) still unprofitable to this very day, despite the billions upon billions that are being poured into research.

Can you give an example of a single nuclear power plant that actually makes a profit without government subsidies?
inb4 muh AGW
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 No.469937

>>469927
Nuclear power is very advanced, it's using the properties of matter that are way more powerful. From the point of physics there is just way more juice inside the core of an atom than its electron cloud.

Not using the core of atoms means technology gets stuck at a certain level. Not just for energy production but also for other applications. Eventually we'll want to mess around with the nucleus of the atom for other purposes like material science or possibly computing.

Nuclear power makes a lot of economic sense it uses comparably very little resources and labor inputs to produce absolutely huge quantities of energy. That means very low cost energy.

The main reasons why the capitalist mode of production has problems harnessing nuclear power is because it's a long term technology, it takes 2-5 years to build a plant, and then it runs for 40-60 years and then it takes another 2-5 years to decommission it. Which means that the entire cycle of an atomic power plant might be up-to 70 years. Most capitalists don't have that kind of patience.

Nuclear power-plants make electricity, and while electricity is the highest quality of energy we can make, it's also much harder to commodify, because you can't just fill up a tanker and then ship it to a customer. There sort off is a fix for that, i'll com back to it later.

Let me be clear here capitalism isn't the yard-stick against which we measure reality, if capitalism isn't able to deploy a useful technology that means capitalism is insufficient, not the technology. In Marxist jargon one would say capitalism is a fetter on the productive forces.

I think that if you want to run nuclear power within the capitalist mode of production the easiest way to do it, is by having a state-run energy production that provides super low cost energy to capitalist industries. It's basically energy as an infrastructure/subsidy.

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 No.469938

>>469927
Can you explain to us why we should give a shit about profitability?


 No.469842[Reply]

Racial identity categories have no biological merit, so the thread-subject line is objectively correct.
The hard materialist line isabolishing race identities as false consciousness in favor of class unity.
Is this politically doable ? Could this gain traction among the masses ?

https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=vm4WMd5qJgM
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 No.469848

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>>469844
>not clicking that
>I agree with the basic premise.

very peculiar
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 No.469872

>>469848

Yeah, race is a charade & I'm not clicking.
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 No.469912

Race is not a "thing" or "substance" you can isolate in a lab, but a question of heredity - basically asking "who your ancestors are" in a general enough sense that is understandable. We have a sense of what races are and who is in what race, but it only became relevant because eugenics became the political idea. The idea of "race rule" was absurd to even the screaming racists of the 19th century. It took eugenics to make that idea acceptable as a pseudoscience.

Maybe some day we wouldn't kill each other over stupid shit. There was a strange time in America where we thought that would happen. No such luck. Today's racism is thoroughly a proxy for eugenics generally, rather than mere "identity". The white racists can't even say what they really think with a straight face, because it's such a laughable claim about nature. It's intended for the petty-manager slaves who want to kick down someone, and when they don't have an identity ready for them to kick down, they find some other trait to justify their shitty behavior. None of it is based on anything but a crass greed, and that is intended. The true aristocracy are far more racist than anything that comes out of the mouth of a Reaganite bullycoward retard, and they are retarded. Listen to a liberal in the political elite talk about Africa and you can see hatred that would make Hitler blush, despite the lack of anything the Africans did except exist and want something for themselves. It's really absurd, but all of it comes back to a eugenic interest overtaking anything else. The Reaganites are their enablers, encouraged to be as stupid and venal as possible, then abase themselves and indulge in cuckold porn because they're the most worthless men and women, whose contribution to humanity is nothing but cheap and abundant torture and misery. The actually capable racists are the true danger. Without their hand, the Reaganites would be exposed as the fags they are and put down, and we wouldn't have to hear their retardation ever again.
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 No.469928

Race is a charade but I don't understand anything else you said and I won't click some youtube link unless you give me a reason to.
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 No.469930

>>469928
The video is from the Katie Halper show (lefty independent media with cerebral comedy and political commentary) , and there are 2 Marxists ( Pascal Robert & Jason Myles) explaining how capitalism uses identity politics. It's just shy of 5 minutes short.


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