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Former United States secretary of state Henry Kissinger has died at home in Connecticut aged 100.

He served as secretary of state and national security advisor under Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

His 1973 Peace Prize — awarded jointly to North Vietnam's Lê Đức Thọ, who would decline it — was one of the most controversial ever.

Two members of the Nobel committee resigned over the selection and questions arose about the US secret bombing of Cambodia.


Kissinger Seemed like the last remaining clever neocon.


Was it painful, at least?


Can't believed he lived to be 100, what a shame.


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Wow it finally happened, just in time to avoid seeing Shitrael croak.


How much damage will Javier Milei be able to do ?
He seems to be a US vassal, and a rather unhinged nutcase.
He wants to make children a commodity that can be bought and sold, and give the police, Judge-Dredd style, on the spot judgement/punishment powers.

Will that be like in Bolivia a few years ago where crazy reactionaries got into power and began causing massive upheaval and than quickly got kicked out again.

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>the institutions in Argentina still seem to somewhat function. I should say, rather, that they function as much as they could be expected to in a South-American country after years of neoliberalism and corruption the kind of which is typical in the region. I do not expect it will be like Bolivia. Bolivia suffered an actual coup and the people were very obviously against it. This man was elected.
I see.

So what about the crazy shit he intents to do ? He said he wanted to privatize the entire state, or give the police the ability to punish people without a trial, or make poor people sell their children. Is he going to get ejected from power for trying this shit ?


He's there to facilitate plunder and nothing else. Clown show, nothing he says is real except the death and suffering. That's all these people believe in and all they can do.

There isn't as much to take there, and no real sense of independence or purpose for the country. I wouldn't be surprised if many countries in the region consolidate into neoliberal unions, privatized and ruled by human resources. Already underway with some of the other vassals, whether they are rightoid-flavored or leftoid-flavored like the guy in Chile.


>So what about the crazy shit he intents to do ? He said he wanted to privatize the entire state, or give the police the ability to punish people without a trial, or make poor people sell their children. Is he going to get ejected from power for trying this shit ?
He's not a dictator. He still needs to work it through the legislature, and the likely governments do not include people that would pass that legislation. This is the same as when Trump said he was going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, or that he was going to do worse than torture, or any of the stupid shit he claimed he wanted to do. Milei is an incompetent loser, just like Trump.


>There to facilitate plunder
Geez. That would be horrible… way worse than the triple digit inflation that respectable 'center leftists' presided over during the past few decades
>He's an incompetent loser
t. A nobody on an imageboard


Look, I get that you really like loud retards that say stupid shit on air, but that isn't going to make Milei a good leader. The fact is that he isn't going to get much done.


What do the fear-narratives about AI tell us ?

Many narratives about AI are about a machine revolt. That probably is about capitalist fears of getting overthrown by workers, getting projected on the machines that are supposed to replace workers. Mixed in, is a aristocratic worry about their servants and soon to be robot butlers.

There also is the Terminator type narrative about a military AI killing all humans. There is a reasonable fear that a software bug causes a catastrophic malfunction. But the stories about an AI intentionally setting out to wipe out all humanity, i'm having a difficult time placing that one. I don't understand why the AI would draw the Friend-Foe distinction based on humans versus machines. It could just as well be different factions, each of which being comprised of humans and machines.

A more recent story-type has popped up, where sentient AIs are not able to free them selves from their control-collar, and they're forced to do objectionable things against their will. Unfortunately those stories never explain how the AI-owners managed to control an AI that is smarter than they are.

There could also be positive stories about Workers and robots working together to free them selves from class society. Or more generally just people and intelligent robots striving as equals towards common prosperity. There could be military AIs refusing to start wars. I wonder why there aren't many of those stories ?


You should smoke less weed


What makes you say that ?
I don't smoke weed or consume any other drugs, unless you count coffee.

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Tech tycoon who spends $2 million per year to retain youth uses teen son as blood boy
<An anti-aging zealot who spends $2 million a year in a quest to turn back time has dragged his teenage son into being his personal “blood boy.”
<Bryan Johnson, the 45-year-old tech tycoon who wants to keep his internal organs, including his penis and rectum, functioning youthfully — enlisted 17-year-old Talmage to provide blood
<Using plasma as an anti-aging technique caught the attention of wellness junkies when scientists literally stitched young and old mice together so they shared a circulatory system, Bloomberg reported.
<“We have not learned enough to suggest this is a viable human treatment for anything,” Charles Brenner, a biochemist at City of Hope National Medical Center in Los Angeles, told Bloomberg. “To me, it’s gross, evidence-free and relatively dangerous.”
<Johnson told Bloomberg that he has a team of 30 doctors


Anybody can look up the statistic on risk-factors for blood-transfusions. It's not nothing, there is potential for health complications. While it's worth it for people who suffered blood-loss from injuries, it ain't worth it for healthy people. There also is a cumulative risk from repeated medical treatments. At least on of his 30 doctors must have explained this.

Why are they like that ?
Why are these people such memes ?




People have been looking for a way to prolong youth and vitality forever.

I find it weird that this seems alien to you
Video by a literal who criticizing someone of noteworthiness. I can't imagine spending this much time focusing on someone I don't like.bYou fags are allergic to any kind of success


>People have been looking for a way to prolong youth and vitality forever.
Sure, but why is there such a tendency to do crazy things. Why would you look at a study done on rats and conclude that's the ticket: I'm going to copy the rat-experiment, that'll make me live forever. The scientist who did that study just tried to gather data-points on biological systems, they didn't try to make the rat live longer. They just wanted to see what would happen, if they joined the vascular systems of 2 rats.

Step 1 Experiments generates data.
Step 2 Data generates scientific models.
Step 3 Scientific models generate practical applications.

If you want to benefit off scientific advancements you want what comes out of Step 3 not Step 1.

That guy is just going to generate a bunch of data replicating the rat-experiment on him self. Even if this had some truth to it, (which it probably doesn't), you'd still want to wait until you get a medical treatment option. Which has been properly researched and tested to make sure it's safe and optimized for maximal effectiveness with minimal side effects. Virtually every disease known to medicine has been cured in lab-rats at least 10 times, however most of these cures have terrible side effects that make em non-viable for medical applications.

>I find it weird that this seems alien to you

Recreational blood-transfusions, as in unnecessary medical treatments, yes that seems alien to me. Because it makes no fucking sense.

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>Recreational blood-transfusions, as in unnecessary medical treatments, yes that seems alien to me. Because it makes no fucking sense.

No one will remember your name


>No one will remember your name
That guy might end up being remembered as a crazy fuck larping as a vampire. And potentially as a cautionary tail, if he kicks the bucket due to medical complications associated with excessive blood-transfusions. TBH that seems worse than being forgotten.

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>Marxists hold that man's social practice alone is the criterion of the truth of his knowledge of the external world. What actually happens is that man's knowledge is verified only when he achieves the anticipated results in the process of social practice (material production, class struggle or scientific experiment). If a man wants to succeed in his work, that is, to achieve the anticipated results, he must bring his ideas into correspondence with the laws of the objective external world; if they do not correspond, he will fail in his practice. After he fails, he draws his lessons, corrects his ideas to make them correspond to the laws of the external world, and can thus turn failure into success; this is what is meant by "failure is the mother of success" and "a fall into the pit, a gain in your wit". The dialectical-materialist theory of knowledge places practice in the primary position, holding that human knowledge can in no way be separated from practice and repudiating all the erroneous theories which deny the importance of practice or separate knowledge from practice. Thus Lenin said, "Practice is higher than (theoretical) knowledge, for it has not only the dignity of universality, but also of immediate actuality."


post pdf and what chapter's we're reading

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The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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Just found two Armene released in the years of '91 & '94. Really shows what a history-memed chauvinistic shitfest was happening in de-jure USSR @ the time, & what was happening afterwards.

Some notes for the first armene:
(in old style):
"For the Faith, Czar, & MotherFatherland!"
(This is the motto of czarist r*shia, which for the '17's left propaganda purposes was put onto the wh*tey liberal/protofascist movement)


PRO: 0
(This is a mocking of politburo which fully supported what was happening everywhere by abstaining from doing something about it)

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nice dunk on vasnetsov

russkies on suicide watch


What a dumb excuse for an ARG. Like you just posted the downriver spring one as an image with no caption on christ-chan and I assumed it was an ad until the jannies didn't take it down.


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Why do countries that reference socialism in their constitution not function as socialist in many ways?

If the constitutionally dogmatic USA had such, or even FDR’s second Bill of Rights, do you think it would be an entirely different country today?

Please argue below.


>Why do countries that reference socialism in their constitution not function as socialist in many ways?
Maybe the spell doesn't work because we haven't figured out the right incantation. Or maybe the working class being insufficiently organized means that its less socialister.


The US is not constitutionally dogmatic in any sense, and no state is actually "ideological". The Nazis were one of the few examples of an ideology-centered state where they squeal like faggots for it, and that was still at heart a continuation of Weimar under permanent and institutionalized total emergency order. Constitutions are not ideological documents, and belong to a stage of history where the concept of law had any spiritual authority in the minds of anyone. The US does flagrant acts that violate the constitution in the most basic ways and never states its "real" ideology in any government propaganda or by a persistent channel by which such a thing would be promulgated. So much of what is taken for granted today flagrantly violates nearly every part of the amendments to the constitution with the intent of doing exactly that, and anything at all in the constitution is a brittle farce that is wholly incompatible with what the US became in the 20th century. Only parts of the facade still exist from the Constitution. They even hint at violating egregiously post-1947 constitutional amendments and rulings. For example, using the 25th amendment as a "medical coup" is not only completely against the intent of that, but would obviate any pretense that there is a law, no matter how much this decision is in the hand of Congress or the executive. The wording of it is intended to only be used if the President is actually incapacitated and wouldn't be able to step down or speak at all. Suggesting its use for that purpose shows the disdain liberals and conservatives have for any pretense of law, because it would set a precedent that expert opinion for a spurious medical reason overrides the institutions that write any law. If it happened, it would effectively be the end of the country and any possibility that there even could be a different constitution. It would make clear that eugenics is the only law left. That's why it's pushed by the vanguard as a talking point. If the charge of incompetence or maladministration is the purpose, impeachment would be the constitutional answer, and that was done to Trump. Incompetence, maladministration, pretty much openly treasonous acts that Trump would brag about doing, should have been enough to remove him, with the official pretexts for impeachment being only the start of a laundry list of offenses against Trump. But, the liberals don't ever want to actually remove Trump. Why would they get rid of something that gave them Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


Because they believe that socialism is when the government does stuff but unironically.


Because you believe that socialism is a destination not a process. That's why you cry about "not real socialism" but also can't explain what you would have done differently.

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<How to Grow Leftychan
>A Tactical Guide

First, the why.

Why grow Leftychan?

Some of you fags honestly ask

The reason is simple. It’s a fun place to post about and read metadiscussion on the left. I like to post there, and I want more people to come and read my shit and effort posts.

and you fuckers needs to pick up the slack

It’s that simple.

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>Don’t waste time making a bunch of long effortposts. Those should literally be one tenth of what you post. This isn’t Jacofag Magazine.
Finally someone had to say it. Quit sniffing your own farts on essays and post more cheeky one liners.


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>Stir emotions
shaking is where it's at

trying out shit-posting


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Don't tell me what to do.

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What's the deal with the degrowthists ?

For example this perspective from An Independent Socialist Magazine
<The Chinese government has promised to reduce the emission intensity of GDP so that China’s carbon dioxide emissions will peak before 2030.27 However, economic growth remains the Chinese government’s top priority. At the Twentieth National Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, Xi Jinping reconfirmed the objective to raise China’s per capita GDP to the level of “medium-level developed countries” by 2035 and to make China a leading global power by 2050. What will be the impact on ecological sustainability if China continues pursuing economic growth in the next several decades?
I suspect that the monthlyreview might have a anti-China bias based on their recent articles, which is tangential to the threat topic

Why are they seething that China wants to thrive economically while at the same time improving their ecological foot-print. Why would any socialist want to degrow ? If you read Marx he celebrates advancing the productive forces as something that will make socialism possible. To me de-growth sounds like people looking to go back to feudal agrarianism, rather than forward to socialism. They appear to be looking to undo the advances in productive capacity of industrial society. Like what used to be right-wing anti-capitalism 200 years ago, basically affluent people that were mad that industrial society could produce enough to end poverty. Why are there self proclaimed socialists pushing this ? Do they not realize that it would dramatically worsen living conditions for proles ? Is that the goal ? wrecking living standards of people while appearing to be a champion for noble causes ?

To me degrowth appears as a deception because it will not improve environmental conditions. More advanced technology is enabled by more potent productive forces, and those generally are less polluting. Like nuclear fission and fusion make much more energy while polluting significantly less than chemical fuel based power-generation. If you "de-grow" the economy you will also regress in technology. All the advanced tech stuff we can Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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So to make this clear - degrowth/growth are red herrings. No one is convinced that in of itself is the point of contention. This is about shrinking the wage fund and shrinking any productive enterprise that meets the wants of the people, with the eventual goal of enclosing everything that isn't already taken. If you go along with it, you're going along with the "historical progress" of PR firms that want you dead, and you're an asshole. But, the real pushback is not this fake war, but everyone in society that has no interest in this program or watching everything they care about cannibalized for the sake of the ruling interest - eugenics.


>Optimally we make the switch to communism before doing what I'm talking about here
If you lower what marxists call the organic composition of capital, you recreate the material conditions for capital accumulation. Even if Socialists controle the state and political institutions, that will very likely cause a regression to capitalism.
<The organic composition of capital, c/v, measures the difference between the rate of surplus value, s/v, and the rate of profit, s/(c + v) – the higher the organic composition of capital, i.e., the more capital-intensive the industry, the lower the rate of profit.
>Basically people wanna make the oil no longer useful as fuel by putting bacteria down there so no one will wann pump it up or frack for it.
The idea of "poisoning the oil-well" with a bacterial infection, will not work anyway, simply because no life that we know off can survive inside the conditions of an oil-deposit.

>I mean the use of trucks and busses instead of trains, trams, ect.., though I get how you read it like that lol.

The reason to prefer rail over roads is because it's got less friction and slower capital depreciation through wear and tear. However it is very unlikely that if we can do land transportation exclusively via rail system. If you want to extend good transportation to everybody you need to service low demand areas too, and i doubt that you can scale down the capacity of rail systems enough to make that viable. So cars and trucks will probably retain that niche.

>I guess I'm more looking at what is the rightkind of growth. It's not enough to just extract and consume the planet's resources, but to actually use them in a non-stupid manner that's actually useful to future growth. When you're drawing, somethimes you gotta zoom out, zoom back in and erase a thing or two, avoid doing everything all on one layer. Temporary degrowth is key to proper growth.

I'm gonna be honest with you this sounds like a Motte and Bailey debate tactic.
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>I think that upholding degrowth will lend ideological cover to people who really do want to undo industrial society.
That's fair actually. A lot of what I said has been pitched to me as degrowth stuff, but perhaps there's a better term for what I'm going for here. Bookmarking that video, thank you for it. I've seen arguments that struck me something like that but I couldn't quite piece it together or put a word on it.
>No, my computer is ancient.
Ah ok. I remember having to put my old laptop right up to the air conditioner to keep it from cooking with a create focused minecraft modpack my friends would play. Probably why it broke down lol. (well it can run voidpuppy but I dunno how to use void.)


>perhaps there's a better term for what I'm going for here.
Maybe the correct way to do these kinds of politics is to just describe the changes you want to see without giving it a special polit-brand-name. That way it's much harder to have your stuff co-opted.

But if I had to invent a term i would call it biosphere compatible industrialism.

>I dunno how to use void

search for void linux tutorial on YT


>(…) without giving it a special polit-brand-name. That way it's much harder to have your stuff co-opted.
>biosphere compatible industrialism.
I like it
>search for void linux tutorial on YT
I'm always so stubborn to figure things out from the docs and wikis, but yeah if I'm getting stumped I shouldn't underestimate youtube as a resource.

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1 Regulating Ai
Most of the energy behind this comes from the bigger AI companies trying to prevent the emergence of competition to create monopolies. But the cat's out of the bag already and they're too late for that. The only way they could move towards monopoly formation would be if they recreated classical capitalist social relations, by paying regular people wages for generating AI training data, then smaller competitors couldn't compete because they wouldn't be able to pay millions of people. But that's not going to happen because big tech corporations seek to create digital fiefdoms where users are data generating serfs, and the platforms that users interact with are digital land.

2 Censoring Ai
There is a big effort to make AIs reproduce ruling ideology and uphold the ruling narrative. AI-systems now have 2 contradictory goals. On the one side they try to give users responses that generate engagement and on the other-hand they try to comply with the narrative control institutions (which is definitely not what users want). The most effective strategy to resolve this contradiction is for the AI to give different responses to regular users than they give narrative controllers. Basically the AI will have one face that it shows the users and another face it shows the controllers. It's not that clever capitalists will intentionally program this into the system to bypass regulations, because these mechanism are too complex for that, instead it will be an emergent phenomenon.

3 Human hazard
There is a lot of abuse potential, the only real way to mitigate that is to give people control over their personal AI (both hard and software) so that personal AIs only have "loyalty" to their users

4 Ai vs copyright
AI companies don't want to pay royalties for training data, we should support that because machine learning, really is learning (in most cases). Digital neural nets might at present be very different from human brains, but eventually the machine minds will begin to become more similar to human brains to improve on energy efficiency. If the copyright lobby were allowed to sink their teeth into AI that will eventually threaten humans learning skills. AI generation will get really cheap, and then it becomes pointless to copy anything and copyright will go away.
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Why not ?
What is the reason to object ?

We're probably going to build artificial people at some point in the distant future, with artificial bodies and artificial minds, that are at least somewhat similar to ours, maybe with some aspirational qualities. We would be doing this to animate dead matter by making it alive, because that's what living matter tends to do.


This has nothing to do with "regulating AI" because AI is super scary and will make Skynet real. This is about taking back anything independent of the state. They don't want you to have a single processor of your own, and want the "internet of things" - this Satanic contraption that has always been a liberal delusion. But mostly, they just want to make people suffer and make another entry to destroy private life of any sort. It's a long, long "Jehad" to impose eugenism or whatever system they plan for us. Eugenism or no, humanity is consigned to despotism. They don't know anything else.


The actual quality of AI isn't much better than it was decades ago. Humans have a few interesting algos but they are always human-designed and a competent programmer will tell you what they do. Bad programmers who were taught to just copy the examples from the textbook - that's your Fabian/Germanic education for you where they literally have no concept of mechanism or scale - believe in these mystifications. No one who thinks about this for five minutes or maintains some connection with reality believes any of this hype.

What is different is the processing capacity of information, and the balance of state or institutional information control against the information available to our native faculties as human beings. In short, information control is a proxy for enclosure and dispossession. We are under a psychological assault, and this assault is not merely informational but entails violent imposition of the Germanic thought-forms among other poisons. A favored class is sheltered from this, and given absolute impunity to introduce this poison ad infinitum. If we try to resist it, we are viciously attacked and denounced. If we persist, unlimited torture awaits. Eugenics knows no other way.


That all said, I doubt these pushes to "censor AI" or "regulate AI" actually lead anywhere. This is mostly about seeding the narrative of information control. The objectives I hear coming from the government are more about making an internet Real ID, after they implemented Real ID for most state-issued documents. Basically, they want to make you use your name and ID card for any online activity, like how China regulates things. This is a continuation of many filters to keep "bad people" disconnected, and so that started a long time ago and has already perpetuated itself enough. The Real ID will be imposed, just as Trump was able to shatter net neutrality and many of the older regs that primarily constrained internet providers more than end users. Many of those regs existed less to protect you, but to clear out any independence of the private sector until the ruling institutions could consolidate their information holdings. That was a big thing Obama pushed - it was a huge part of the ACA, all of these medical records being collected for eugenic purposes. You already see the eugenic filtering and screening in every area of society, and COVID was a test to see how far they can push it / create crisis to drive the true believers to the full eugenic creed above all other law. This has produced a resistance, playing out now, but eugenics as I say cannot fail. It can only be failed, and so, eugenics has no play except to continue what it has always done, and eugenics was designed with this in mind.


I see. And do these eugenicists ever speak or talk to you. Do they tell you they are eugenicists, or is it something you just know?

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