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 No.492247[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Since there have been new doc releases and recent new exposures of notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his activities with Israeli intelligence, Donald Trump, Ehud Barak, (former) Prince Andrew, Peter Thiel, and various ops, corporate states, and world governments, and with new information now coming very fast, I thought I'd create a new thread just to collect more of this new stuff in one place, as well as to potentially add previously released info which might be getting memory holed.
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 No.494787

>>494552
there's probably a ton of long-term congresspeople like McConnell that have been getting their jollies off at the island for years.

Public pressure is high on the degeneracy of the capitalist class (or "epstein class" kek) but there's no will in the government since they are all the perpetrators.
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 No.494862

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 No.495138

Epstein is why I believe in corporal punishment for adults
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 No.495139

>>492248
But they’re not wrong
By your logic, anti semitransparent and anti Zionism should be the same.

Hebephilia is the more proper term because they’re preying on PUBESCENT females not PREPUBESCENT ones
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 No.495140

>>494302
Children cannot consent because they haven’t completed puberty yet.
Let alone have sociophysical autonomy.

You’re forgetting about senile elderly patients or severely mentally ill prime age adults as invalids of consent


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 No.494482[Reply]

Serious question. Capitalists hate it, the bourgeois hate it, idpol cucks hate it, the reactionaries hate it. Just because they want to carve their own niche within this pedophobic zeitgeist doesn’t make them consistent.

It should also be noted that all the current nominally communist countries have magic age lines below the Hollywood one of 18, as well as Stalin, Mao, Evo Morales, etc… got laid with JB (with Evo still being persecuted for having sex with someone below the bourgeois magic age line), as well as that the USSR didn’t have a formal age of consent even under Stalin.

I should also point out that being against bourgeois norms isn’t some trendy Tumblr fad, as the Spartacist League opposes the magic age line (a.k.a., the age of consent, which was literally invented by feudal nobility because they found extramarital sex among peasants too icky) and the communist party of Britain (CPB) used to oppose it as well.

On the top of that, since there’s no evidence that intergenerational intimacy is inherently harmful, therefore this isn’t a materialist question of harm as much as a bourgeois dialectics of moralisms after moralisms that only serve to attack working class men.

So again…

Why is youth-love bad?
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 No.494483

thx for reminding me why gulags existed…

Only because you were FREE to do smth in a "left" state, doesnt mean you SHOULD. Simple as that.

You are confusing Age of Consent with the age you are liable in bourgeois juristiction.

The age of consent is (typically 14) set because of the growth of the human brain and the dev. of sexual relations AMONGS peers.
It is NOT normal for a adult to fuck kids/teen. But why am I bothering, you will just read what you want.

Sex between Adults and kids is in 99.9% due to a power gap and hierarchy. And if you were a left, you would see that. But you are just in the search of a explanation for your disorder. Get help or smth
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 No.495134

>>494483
The problem is, young adults are classified as children in the sociosexual realm nowadays.

Also, if power gap is the reason why adult-child relationships are bad, then why are intereconomic relationships not looked at the same way?
Not OP by the way.

Also, historically, adulthood began at fourteen. Nowadays people say 25.


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 No.494400[Reply]

Hey, I'm a guest here. Why do leftists believe that sex is morally good and that sex-positivity is nessesary?

I'm currently writing a paper of sorts and I need to know the perspective of the sex-positive.

I'm not looking for pretentious sources that try to overcomplicate themselves to make the author look smsrt. I just need a good explanation of the whole thing.

What do most people here agree is a valid reason to push sex-positivity on society itself?

And what do sex-positivists think of leftist puritism?
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 No.494415

You can have sex after you've won something.
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 No.494418

OP, are you ok?
Why are people so morally obsessed with sex and sexuality?
Leftists don't view sex as good. They call anything sexual as "predatory"
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 No.494419

>>494401
>Sex, gooner shit, troon shit, pornography etc is pushed onto people by the ruling class,

This is popular anti-sec sentiment pushed by people.
iMO, there's nothing wrong with sex and porn. People just wanna politicize things that should not be.
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 No.495007

the real contradiction is the promotion of sex, but prohibition of childbirth, making sex a purely destructive act. further, some even think that childbirth should be alienated to central controls (e.g. eugenic breeing) and that de facto, all unplanned pregnancies should be killed.
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 No.495133

>>495007
Yet what I see is the opposite. Sex is promoted only as purely procreative. Recreational sex is pathologized


 No.495082[Reply]

What do you guys think of centrists? I think that other than anti-idpol leftists, post-left anarchists and lolberts centrists are the most tolerable people to talk to. Who else do we have? Woketards? Radlibs? Christcucks? Literal fascists? Like, everyone else is kinda dumb and insane at least in some way, there isn't much to choose from. And centrists are the most popular political faction after woketards/radlibs and Christcucks/fascists.
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 No.495108

>>495087
>At least people on the far right (lolberts) know that something is wrong and are willing to engage with others who think something with wrong, you can have quite productive conversations and even ally with them on specific issues.
That's fair. But you can still ally with centrists on culture war, no?
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 No.495109

>>495108 (me)
Also, can you blame the centrists for always choosing the middle ground when both sides are full of crazies and when moderate opinions often appear to be the more nuanced ones as a consequence of that? Culture war, AI, even immigration and wars are very, VERY polarizing topics where each side uncritically supports a certain position. It's understandable how one's kneejerk response to it all will be believing that the horseshoe theory is correct. After all, how many people even know about anti-idpol leftists? Seriously.
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 No.495120

>>495096
>You're not entitled to my labor value or solidarity. Solidarity is earned.
Who asked?
>It is fundamentally wrong to bring life into the world.
No its not that's just how life works. There are no wrongs or rights in the natural world.
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 No.495122

>>495105
>because you gave in to peer pressure.
That's retarded, there is a correct side based on the available evidence.
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 No.495127

>>495122
>That's retarded, there is a correct side based on the available evidence.
You can never be certain that this or that side is absolutely correct, you can only be certain that this or that side is correct-er. Learning is a continuous process, you don't suddenly wake up one day and exclaim: "Ewreka! I know exactly how the world works!" Even if you pick a side, you shouldn't just delegate your thinking to it, you should approach all alliances with a critical lens. Otherwise, why are you even on this board? If you are unable to criticize the left then you shouldn't be there, go away.


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 No.494799[Reply]

the community actually needs a place to live
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 No.495037

https://www.cpusa.org/article/rise-in-unity-for-democracy-and-our-future/
>Rise in unity for democracy and our future – Communist Party USA

"Housing for people, not profit

Housing is a human right which requires removing the profit motive. Affordable housing, built and maintained with union labor, must be created for renters and homeowners. Rents and mortgages should be immediately rolled back to no more than 30% of income with the goal of pushing housing costs below 10% of income. We need to enact national rent control with protections against evictions and foreclosures. More public housing must be built with first priority to the unhoused. Profiteering by banks and private equity firms must be stopped. The time to organize tenant unions is now!"
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 No.495038

>>495037
Now remember to vote Democrat. We have to stop Trump!
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 No.495088

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 No.495089

>>495088
What are you trying o communicate with this video, anon?
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 No.495090

>>495089
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?


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 No.495039[Reply]

I see a lot of talk concerning how Israel should be supported by the USA and European countries for various reasons and, notably, none of them concern with material benefits for either native Europeans or long-time American citizens, instead focusing on abstractions and ideals. As Trump has led the USA into another forever war with Iran (at the behest of Israel, per the words of US Secretary of State Marco Rubio), it is pertinent to talk about a common anti-Zionist talking point that I find counterproductive. Namely: Israel’s colonialism is the same as that of American settle colonialism from the late 18thcentury to the early 20th century.

This is incorrect as, while America is a settler-colonial state, nonetheless was founded on the basis of enlightenment principles like equality before the law and liberty, considering how the American and French revolutions at the time were leftist at the time of the events, with the notion of equality of men itself being already extremely radical at a time when absolute monarchies were the standard in Europe. That’s not all, as contrary to popular opinion the Founding Fathers themselves weren’t conservative. Whether it’s the lack of any mention specifying the USA as a “white Christian country” founded on the basis of theology in the constitution and the federalist papers, George Washington himself coming to oppose slavery before the abolitionist movement began to gain momentum, many of said fathers being at best deists or nominally Christian, the USA being effectively the first democratic republic in history with limited suffrage being a short-lived experiment that was swept away in favour of universal male suffrage, Thomas Jefferson himself owning a copy of the Quran and a version of the Bible excised of all supernatural elements and among other examples show that the USA was far from the hotbed of reactionary politics both liberals and chuds tend to portray it as. Even the Indian Removal Act that led to the infamous “Trail of Tears” wasn’t unanimously agreed upon, with strong opposition by Christian missionaries and other politicians who opposed it based on the shared humanity and parity between white settlers Native Americans.

So it’s no wonder given all this that, despite the reproduction of reactionary politics like Manifest Destiny and Jim Crow laws, the notion of equality (or pretence to it) persisted throughout American history, which laid the seeds for the civil rights, feminist, and gay rightPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.495048

>>495045
Oh wow he freed a few slaves after winning an entire war fought to preserve it. Truly a great man.
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 No.495049

>ITT Honkies recognizing Israeli settler colonialism while continuing to fail to recognize their own perpetuated on Blacks and indigenous peoples.
Top kek
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 No.495080

>>495046
Jefferson at least wanted a new constitution every 19 years. If not democratic, it is at least populist. Although probably next to impossible to actually enact kek it would take 17 years of drafting each time


But yeah, there are no elections in a democracy. Every government position, from senator on down to public librarian, should be determined by lot. This is how it was in ancient Athens, which would be considered a democracy if it wasn't for the massive amount of slaves and total lack of rights for women.
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 No.495081

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 No.495083

>>495080
Athens did have some elected offices. They were the ten military generals and many offices dealing with finance. The general sentiment though, as outlined by Aristotle, is that elections were oligarchic in nature. In fact the popular opinion on this was so coherent that it was actually a justification for making financial offices elected: if someone who handles money embezzles money while in office, that money could later be reclaimed from their estate.


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 No.493465[Reply]

What is the difference between a cop shooting you in the face, and a gang member shooting you in the face? What makes the former 'legit' and the latter 'criminal'?

Has there ever been one example in human history of that invisible entity calling itself 'government' that didn't exist outside of its self-declared right to kill you if you didn't do what it said? That a tiny minority (or even one single person) one day declaring "I am in charge, now. Bow down or I'll murder you." and everybody else inexplicably nodding and going along with this psychotic nonsense?

I'm not being an anarchist nor a lolbert. I fully understand the need for this objectively nonsensical situation in order for humanity to function and prosper. Without somebody holding a bigger stick than someone else, that someone else has no reason to behave himself.

And there is no stick bigger than God.

There wouldn't be ~3 billion Christians and Muslims if somebody didn't convince them all (with violence) that if they misbehaved that after they died an invisible sky fairy would exercise incalculable sadism by trapping them in trillion-degree lava for the rest of time.

And the only reason that this schizophrenic idea stuck is that somebody with a big stick told everyone else that "this bronze age book of barbaric bedtime stories is all true and in fact nothing is more true than it, so do what it says or I'll kill you AND THEN you will 'die the second death' by being trapped in trillion-degree lava until the end of time".

What is the point of this OP? Nothing, really. Just had this on my mind while lamenting that existence in its current form was a ghastly mistake, if there really is some sort of unmoved mover and ground of all things that created it. And that if there is no outside-of-time-and-physicality lawmaker behind the invisible concepts we call the laws of nature, that all there has ever been and all that there ever will be is a fully-automatic universe consisting of incomprehensibly small bits and bobbles bouncing around in the cosmic void, then there is no such thing outside of things, that what we call "concepts" are just us trying to cast invisible nets around invisible nonsense to try and make sense of an ultimately senseless existence.
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 No.495042

>>493465
>There wouldn't be ~3 billion Christians…
Islam is another story, but this is actually quite ahistorical for Christianity. Christianity wasn't a state-sanctioned religion until several centuries after its founding. Before that its growth was largely voluntary and early Christians had a communal outlook.
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 No.495044

>>493465
OP Fuck your AI slop. But also yes, government is a monopoly on violence. The only difference between a socialist government and a capitalist one is who the government is oppressing. Yes you can still get arrested for bullshit you don't agree with under socialism, but at least they will use cops to oppress the bourgeoisie primarily and prevent a reversion back to capitalism.

Nobody knows what happens next. We probably need almost every country to have a socialist revolution before the state can wither away. But I don't like to think too far into the future, things are so fucked in America that we should really take it week by week with some sort of outlook.
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 No.495054

>>495044
>but at least they will use cops to oppress the bourgeoisie primarily and prevent a reversion back to capitalism
One can only hope. Sadly most of the socialist governments of the 20th century simply brought the bourgeoisie class into the state apparatus. When you eliminate the undemocratic work arrangements that create the basis of class in the first place, you don't need cops to suppress the bourgeoisie.
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 No.495065

It's telling that the only way human society can be conceived is the rule of a particular method of violence asserted for no reason worth considering, and this is seen as wholly natural and automatic. You have to ask if it was always like this, and usually you conclude that it was not, yet not one example against it is "real". Even when the violence is nowhere near what it purports to be and does not have the power it claims, the assertion of arbitrary violence and cruelty is the only Law humans ever regard or grant spiritual authority, because they really don't know anything else.

If this is about a self-declared right to kill, any idiot can claim that. I can get in my car and use it as a weapon for some vehicular murder, and suddenly I'm "God" according to that theory. Whether you kill by direct violence or by habitual lying and institutions that make it "automatic", it's always reduced to the essential acts of killing and torture and never about anything good or useful. Everyone who tried to assemble something on any other basis is immediately attacked, denounced, and edited out of history, even though we know such a thing would be trivial and non-controversial. It would be very easy to not do any of this, but if we did, suddenly the people who did this to you whine about a "human spirit" and "human nature" that they have already declared a monopoly over.

At the end of all of it, nothing really gets done. The real government of humanity, or what counts as such, is always conducted in secret. This is thrown in front of your face and every institution we have ever known exists to laugh at you as you're ejected from the world. You might think this is a modern thing, but if you look at the past and are not trapped by the fetters you are exhorted to believe are "natural", the Roman system was remarkably similar. The Romans didn't even bother lying about it, and Roman historians will tell you it was a bunch of shit from start to finish. Nowhere do the Romans invoke anything like ideology or justice when it came to the purpose of the state. The purpose of the Roman state was to preserve slavery, and it's written in the legal code. The most humanistic Roman leaders would tell you why the state exists, without any glorification of the idea of the state. That perversion is a modern, Germanic invention that has nothing to do with the Law of any country that was at all functional. Yet, here we are, where the only idea permitted is a glorification Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.495066

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 No.462013[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

This is a general thread for all China-related news.

Gusano fuckers can die. Westoid """maoists""" can sudoku.

We are going to analyize ITT every move by China in their road to a socialist economy.
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 No.491692

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>>491676
CHAIRMAN XI PLEASE FUCKING DO IT, PLEASE NUKE TEL AVIV
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 No.491712

Is it a dangerous time for Americans to move to China to teach English? If there's war, would we be able to get refugee status or would we simply be deported?
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 No.495050

Where can I read (in English preferably) the entire fifteenth five year plan that the Communist Party of China put out for the Fourth session of the 14th National People's Congress

I can't even find the draft, supposedly it was submitted on March 5th - https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202603/05/content_WS69a8fd53c6d00ca5f9a098c2.html
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 No.495051

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All I found was this
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 No.495053

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I also found the recommendations

<Recommendations of the Central Committee of

the Communist Party of China for Formulating the 15th Five-
Year Plan for
National Economic and Social Development


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 No.491830[Reply]

https://cpusa.org/article/imperialism-hurts-workers-everywhere-including-here-in-the-usa/
Imperialism hurts workers everywhere, including here in the USA – Communist Party USA

Genocide

The Netanyahu Israeli government rained down U.S.-made bombs provided by Biden on Gaza killing over 40 thousand Palestinians 80 percent of whom are women and children, destroying most housing, hospitals, schools, universities, mosques, churches, industry, farms. Wantonly killing health care and aid workers, Israel’s siege starves Palestinians of food, water, medicines, sanitation and electricity. Now Trump wants to ethnically cleanse Gaza and turn it into a resort.


Assassinations

On the African continent Burkina Faso’s Thomas Sankara, Congo’s Patrice Lumumba, Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi and Guinea-Bissau’s Amilcar Cabral were all overthrown and assassinated to assist the continued transnational theft of each country’s resources.


Blockades

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.494520

CPUSA are master dickriders
Dickless faggots all of them
Left-imperialists
Cucks
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 No.494521

>>494517
This is pathetic beyond words.
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 No.494524

>>494517
Any org that is still doing this "nothing to see here 'cuz Marxism" shit is totally discredited. It's one thing to think critically about what is or isn't supported by demonstrable facts; it's another to continue to run cover for capitalists' gangster-like collusion and criminality even after they have come to light.

With that said, I refuse to click it - what conclusion did CPUSA reach with this article or segment, can you quote it? I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt even if they are DNC cucks, this is just the introduction - perhaps their conclusion is less stupid. Is it?
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 No.494966

The cpusa is imperialist
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 No.494994

>>493993
🤣🤣🤣


 No.492068[Reply]

>Be Northern Virginia.

>Corporations build hundreds of data centers that receive most internet traffic.


>So much demand for data centers here that they are literally shutting down garden centers to build more data centers



(Not saying we should do any trolling, but AI slop is ruining the internet, sooo…)

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/index.html?layerId=0&layers=ffda13ae2bb8433cb1c97258c6474f56
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 No.494779

Northern Virginia is the hub of the bourgeois in America. It contains both the wealthiest and most powerful people. But it isn't a community in any sense of the word, nor are sub-areas.

They could build picket fences over every parcel and nothing would change. Datacenters, unless they make noise bother few.

People are very isolated and everything in public has a price. The mental health of the state and even its economy is in freefall.

Also nothing is going to slow down AI and neo-Ludditism is cringe, especially when made on internet devices and articulated by developers who are just worried about their jobs.
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 No.494780

>>494779
Only thing I disagree with is:
>nothing is going to slow down AI
AI has already peaked. We haven't seen any giant leaps forward from gpt4, so it's slowing down by virtue of the technology reaching it's limits. It's wrong to expect AGI at this rate, rather we will see incremental improvements with diminishing returns.

Economically, the booj are going to ride this bubble until it pops, but then America will truly have nothing left.
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 No.494786

Do Iran's missiles have the range to hit Virginia?
If they take out data centers that would be a big W
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 No.494791

>>494780
this is kinda like the "internet bubble" did companies over-leverage and make too many businesses at that exact moment? sure.

But the internet itself wasn't a bubble it was just getting started, now we've far exceeded the amount of internet businesses seen during the gold rush phase of the internet, by multiples.

> We haven't seen any giant leaps forward from gpt4


Turns out you can pick the worst performing AI company and say anything you want. But 3 years ago people were saying the big LLM models couldn't do basic math (and many couldn't often), now every other cognitive-task oriented professional is using them to do their jobs for them because they've gotten so much more intelligent.
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 No.494826

>>494779
> Northern Virginia is the hub of the bourgeois in America. It contains both the wealthiest and most powerful people. But it isn't a community in any sense of the word, nor are sub-areas.


Does it have to do with the historical cash cow of tobacco plantations?


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