/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>476988
Kissinger Seemed like the last remaining clever neocon.

Was it painful, at least?

Can't believed he lived to be 100, what a shame.

Wow it finally happened, just in time to avoid seeing Shitrael croak.

>>476894
>the institutions in Argentina still seem to somewhat function. I should say, rather, that they function as much as they could be expected to in a South-American country after years of neoliberalism and corruption the kind of which is typical in the region. I do not expect it will be like Bolivia. Bolivia suffered an actual coup and the people were very obviously against it. This man was elected.
I see.

So what about the crazy shit he intents to do ? He said he wanted to privatize the entire state, or give the police the ability to punish people without a trial, or make poor people sell their children. Is he going to get ejected from power for trying this shit ?

He's there to facilitate plunder and nothing else. Clown show, nothing he says is real except the death and suffering. That's all these people believe in and all they can do.

There isn't as much to take there, and no real sense of independence or purpose for the country. I wouldn't be surprised if many countries in the region consolidate into neoliberal unions, privatized and ruled by human resources. Already underway with some of the other vassals, whether they are rightoid-flavored or leftoid-flavored like the guy in Chile.

>>476905
>So what about the crazy shit he intents to do ? He said he wanted to privatize the entire state, or give the police the ability to punish people without a trial, or make poor people sell their children. Is he going to get ejected from power for trying this shit ?
He's not a dictator. He still needs to work it through the legislature, and the likely governments do not include people that would pass that legislation. This is the same as when Trump said he was going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, or that he was going to do worse than torture, or any of the stupid shit he claimed he wanted to do. Milei is an incompetent loser, just like Trump.

>>476907
>There to facilitate plunder
Geez. That would be horrible… way worse than the triple digit inflation that respectable 'center leftists' presided over during the past few decades
>>476911
>He's an incompetent loser
t. A nobody on an imageboard

>>476912
Look, I get that you really like loud retards that say stupid shit on air, but that isn't going to make Milei a good leader. The fact is that he isn't going to get much done.

You should smoke less weed

>>476913
What makes you say that ?
I don't smoke weed or consume any other drugs, unless you count coffee.

People have been looking for a way to prolong youth and vitality forever.

I find it weird that this seems alien to you
>>476891
Video by a literal who criticizing someone of noteworthiness. I can't imagine spending this much time focusing on someone I don't like.bYou fags are allergic to any kind of success

>>476893
>People have been looking for a way to prolong youth and vitality forever.
Sure, but why is there such a tendency to do crazy things. Why would you look at a study done on rats and conclude that's the ticket: I'm going to copy the rat-experiment, that'll make me live forever. The scientist who did that study just tried to gather data-points on biological systems, they didn't try to make the rat live longer. They just wanted to see what would happen, if they joined the vascular systems of 2 rats.

Step 1 Experiments generates data.
Step 2 Data generates scientific models.
Step 3 Scientific models generate practical applications.

If you want to benefit off scientific advancements you want what comes out of Step 3 not Step 1.

That guy is just going to generate a bunch of data replicating the rat-experiment on him self. Even if this had some truth to it, (which it probably doesn't), you'd still want to wait until you get a medical treatment option. Which has been properly researched and tested to make sure it's safe and optimized for maximal effectiveness with minimal side effects. Virtually every disease known to medicine has been cured in lab-rats at least 10 times, however most of these cures have terrible side effects that make em non-viable for medical applications.

>I find it weird that this seems alien to you
Recreational blood-transfusions, as in unnecessary medical treatments, yes that seems alien to me. Because it makes no fucking sense.

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>>476901
>Recreational blood-transfusions, as in unnecessary medical treatments, yes that seems alien to me. Because it makes no fucking sense.

No one will remember your name

>>476902
>No one will remember your name
That guy might end up being remembered as a crazy fuck larping as a vampire. And potentially as a cautionary tail, if he kicks the bucket due to medical complications associated with excessive blood-transfusions. TBH that seems worse than being forgotten.

>>476857
post pdf and what chapter's we're reading

Just found two Armene released in the years of '91 & '94. Really shows what a history-memed chauvinistic shitfest was happening in de-jure USSR @ the time, & what was happening afterwards.

Some notes for the first armene:
>00:41
(in old style):
"For the Faith, Czar, & MotherFatherland!"
(This is the motto of czarist r*shia, which for the '17's left propaganda purposes was put onto the wh*tey liberal/protofascist movement)

>01:44
PRO: 0
CONTRA: 0
ABSTAINED: 1372
RESOLUTION ACCEPTED
(This is a mocking of politburo which fully supported what was happening everywhere by abstaining from doing something about it)

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>>471509
kek

nice dunk on vasnetsov

russkies on suicide watch

>>476687
What a dumb excuse for an ARG. Like you just posted the downriver spring one as an image with no caption on christ-chan and I assumed it was an ad until the jannies didn't take it down.

>>471509
based post

>>476833
>Why do countries that reference socialism in their constitution not function as socialist in many ways?
Maybe the spell doesn't work because we haven't figured out the right incantation. Or maybe the working class being insufficiently organized means that its less socialister.

The US is not constitutionally dogmatic in any sense, and no state is actually "ideological". The Nazis were one of the few examples of an ideology-centered state where they squeal like faggots for it, and that was still at heart a continuation of Weimar under permanent and institutionalized total emergency order. Constitutions are not ideological documents, and belong to a stage of history where the concept of law had any spiritual authority in the minds of anyone. The US does flagrant acts that violate the constitution in the most basic ways and never states its "real" ideology in any government propaganda or by a persistent channel by which such a thing would be promulgated. So much of what is taken for granted today flagrantly violates nearly every part of the amendments to the constitution with the intent of doing exactly that, and anything at all in the constitution is a brittle farce that is wholly incompatible with what the US became in the 20th century. Only parts of the facade still exist from the Constitution. They even hint at violating egregiously post-1947 constitutional amendments and rulings. For example, using the 25th amendment as a "medical coup" is not only completely against the intent of that, but would obviate any pretense that there is a law, no matter how much this decision is in the hand of Congress or the executive. The wording of it is intended to only be used if the President is actually incapacitated and wouldn't be able to step down or speak at all. Suggesting its use for that purpose shows the disdain liberals and conservatives have for any pretense of law, because it would set a precedent that expert opinion for a spurious medical reason overrides the institutions that write any law. If it happened, it would effectively be the end of the country and any possibility that there even could be a different constitution. It would make clear that eugenics is the only law left. That's why it's pushed by the vanguard as a talking point. If the charge of incompetence or maladministration is the purpose, impeachment would be the constitutional answer, and that was done to Trump. Incompetence, maladministration, pretty much openly treasonous acts that Trump would brag about doing, should have been enough to remove him, with the official pretexts for impeachment being only the start of a laundry list of offenses against Trump. But, the liberals don't ever want to actually remove Trump. Why would they get rid of something that gave them Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>476833
Because they believe that socialism is when the government does stuff but unironically.

>>476840
Because you believe that socialism is a destination not a process. That's why you cry about "not real socialism" but also can't explain what you would have done differently.

>Don’t waste time making a bunch of long effortposts. Those should literally be one tenth of what you post. This isn’t Jacofag Magazine.
Finally someone had to say it. Quit sniffing your own farts on essays and post more cheeky one liners.

>>476763
>Stir emotions
yuk
shaking is where it's at

trying out shit-posting

Don't tell me what to do.

So to make this clear - degrowth/growth are red herrings. No one is convinced that in of itself is the point of contention. This is about shrinking the wage fund and shrinking any productive enterprise that meets the wants of the people, with the eventual goal of enclosing everything that isn't already taken. If you go along with it, you're going along with the "historical progress" of PR firms that want you dead, and you're an asshole. But, the real pushback is not this fake war, but everyone in society that has no interest in this program or watching everything they care about cannibalized for the sake of the ruling interest - eugenics.

>>476774
>Optimally we make the switch to communism before doing what I'm talking about here
If you lower what marxists call the organic composition of capital, you recreate the material conditions for capital accumulation. Even if Socialists controle the state and political institutions, that will very likely cause a regression to capitalism.
<The organic composition of capital, c/v, measures the difference between the rate of surplus value, s/v, and the rate of profit, s/(c + v) – the higher the organic composition of capital, i.e., the more capital-intensive the industry, the lower the rate of profit.
>Basically people wanna make the oil no longer useful as fuel by putting bacteria down there so no one will wann pump it up or frack for it.
The idea of "poisoning the oil-well" with a bacterial infection, will not work anyway, simply because no life that we know off can survive inside the conditions of an oil-deposit.

>I mean the use of trucks and busses instead of trains, trams, ect.., though I get how you read it like that lol.
The reason to prefer rail over roads is because it's got less friction and slower capital depreciation through wear and tear. However it is very unlikely that if we can do land transportation exclusively via rail system. If you want to extend good transportation to everybody you need to service low demand areas too, and i doubt that you can scale down the capacity of rail systems enough to make that viable. So cars and trucks will probably retain that niche.

>I guess I'm more looking at what is the rightkind of growth. It's not enough to just extract and consume the planet's resources, but to actually use them in a non-stupid manner that's actually useful to future growth. When you're drawing, somethimes you gotta zoom out, zoom back in and erase a thing or two, avoid doing everything all on one layer. Temporary degrowth is key to proper growth.
I'm gonna be honest with you this sounds like a Motte and Bailey debate tactic.
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>>476785
>I think that upholding degrowth will lend ideological cover to people who really do want to undo industrial society.
That's fair actually. A lot of what I said has been pitched to me as degrowth stuff, but perhaps there's a better term for what I'm going for here. Bookmarking that video, thank you for it. I've seen arguments that struck me something like that but I couldn't quite piece it together or put a word on it.
>No, my computer is ancient.
Ah ok. I remember having to put my old laptop right up to the air conditioner to keep it from cooking with a create focused minecraft modpack my friends would play. Probably why it broke down lol. (well it can run voidpuppy but I dunno how to use void.)

>>476790
>perhaps there's a better term for what I'm going for here.
Maybe the correct way to do these kinds of politics is to just describe the changes you want to see without giving it a special polit-brand-name. That way it's much harder to have your stuff co-opted.

But if I had to invent a term i would call it biosphere compatible industrialism.

>I dunno how to use void
search for void linux tutorial on YT

>>476792
>(…) without giving it a special polit-brand-name. That way it's much harder to have your stuff co-opted.
true
>biosphere compatible industrialism.
I like it
>search for void linux tutorial on YT
I'm always so stubborn to figure things out from the docs and wikis, but yeah if I'm getting stumped I shouldn't underestimate youtube as a resource.

>>476725
Why not ?
What is the reason to object ?

We're probably going to build artificial people at some point in the distant future, with artificial bodies and artificial minds, that are at least somewhat similar to ours, maybe with some aspirational qualities. We would be doing this to animate dead matter by making it alive, because that's what living matter tends to do.

This has nothing to do with "regulating AI" because AI is super scary and will make Skynet real. This is about taking back anything independent of the state. They don't want you to have a single processor of your own, and want the "internet of things" - this Satanic contraption that has always been a liberal delusion. But mostly, they just want to make people suffer and make another entry to destroy private life of any sort. It's a long, long "Jehad" to impose eugenism or whatever system they plan for us. Eugenism or no, humanity is consigned to despotism. They don't know anything else.

The actual quality of AI isn't much better than it was decades ago. Humans have a few interesting algos but they are always human-designed and a competent programmer will tell you what they do. Bad programmers who were taught to just copy the examples from the textbook - that's your Fabian/Germanic education for you where they literally have no concept of mechanism or scale - believe in these mystifications. No one who thinks about this for five minutes or maintains some connection with reality believes any of this hype.

What is different is the processing capacity of information, and the balance of state or institutional information control against the information available to our native faculties as human beings. In short, information control is a proxy for enclosure and dispossession. We are under a psychological assault, and this assault is not merely informational but entails violent imposition of the Germanic thought-forms among other poisons. A favored class is sheltered from this, and given absolute impunity to introduce this poison ad infinitum. If we try to resist it, we are viciously attacked and denounced. If we persist, unlimited torture awaits. Eugenics knows no other way.

That all said, I doubt these pushes to "censor AI" or "regulate AI" actually lead anywhere. This is mostly about seeding the narrative of information control. The objectives I hear coming from the government are more about making an internet Real ID, after they implemented Real ID for most state-issued documents. Basically, they want to make you use your name and ID card for any online activity, like how China regulates things. This is a continuation of many filters to keep "bad people" disconnected, and so that started a long time ago and has already perpetuated itself enough. The Real ID will be imposed, just as Trump was able to shatter net neutrality and many of the older regs that primarily constrained internet providers more than end users. Many of those regs existed less to protect you, but to clear out any independence of the private sector until the ruling institutions could consolidate their information holdings. That was a big thing Obama pushed - it was a huge part of the ACA, all of these medical records being collected for eugenic purposes. You already see the eugenic filtering and screening in every area of society, and COVID was a test to see how far they can push it / create crisis to drive the true believers to the full eugenic creed above all other law. This has produced a resistance, playing out now, but eugenics as I say cannot fail. It can only be failed, and so, eugenics has no play except to continue what it has always done, and eugenics was designed with this in mind.

>>476758
I see. And do these eugenicists ever speak or talk to you. Do they tell you they are eugenicists, or is it something you just know?