/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

Bear in mind that if it comes to a civil war, that will be the end of any reconciliation between those selected to live and those selected to die. Those who survive the war on the latter side will never, ever trust the institutions, "revolutionary" or otherwise. They have no reason to ever believe any government, and no government will or can give assurances to restore any trust in institutions. The survivors of the damned will only be able to form their own institutions, if they are allowed, and they will continue to suffer under the pressure of the ruling institutions which are antagonistic towards them. Very likely the terms of "keeping the peace" will be a total segregation of those selected to die, and many selected to die becoming the reserve army of slavery. With the alternative being maximal torture and death in absolute terror, there is only slavery or suicide. Enough stubbornness will prevent suicide, and the maximal torture thing will be difficult without resuming the purge that was somehow miraculously defeated. So that will mean those who were truly defeated - us of the damned - will be allowed to live on the most meager terms possible. That is what we will be reduced to - arguing just how bad the coming slavery will be. There will be false promises of freedom and manumission, but that has always been a lie and will be doubly so after the struggle. They were never going to let us in their society.

Why didn't the Albanians have this many mass shootings?

>>468715
The Big Retard is right for once.

>>468467
>As to the video, Penisman seems to think that "financial vs productive" capital is divided between china and the west, which is not true. The west has its own productive capital, and china has its own financial, just look at the recent real estate bubble.
Marxists look at which part is dominant. In China productive capital is dominant, while in the west financial capital is dominant. That's what Cockshott says. The recent real estate bubble proves this point. The Chinese state is bailing out the customers who bought buildings and the construction companies, while financial capital took the L.

>His explanation as to why other countries agreed to sell their shit for dollars after the end of Breton Woods is also nonsensical
Explain why you think that.

>Bro they just need more money to accumulate more surplus and somehow only the US was able to provide this growing money supply
>even petrodollar recycling makes far more sense than this dogshit take
Not sure what this means

>>468469
>In China productive capital is dominant, while in the west financial capital is dominant.
The only problem is that chinese "productive capital" invests its trade surplus back into the us financial markets lol

>Explain why you think that.
you literally quote my explanation below retard lol

>Not sure what this means
It means that the explanations of the kind "well according to M-C-M' to accumulate more surplus value you need a bigger money supply, and so third-world capitalists agreed to be ripped off by the US Treasury and the wall street because the US dollar was already a reserve currency!" are nonsense
Capitalists are not a hivemind, they don't care about abstract M-C-M' schemes, they care about their individual financial accounts.

Capitalists don't want to be ripped off. You need to explain why they couldn't use any other currency, or multiple currencies, to facilitate their accumulation cycle.

I'm not sure where to ask this.

When the world de-dollarizes, does that mean that the US in particular but also the west in general will start shift it's capital composition towards productive capital, and away from financial capital ?

My reasoning is that if western currencies become weaker, exporting manufactured goods and machine capital will become easier while exporting financial capital will become harder. De-dollarization also means that the US can't print infinite money for massively bloated military budgets and they could be looking to make up the loss of global influence from receding military power towards gaining soft-power from exporting goods and machine capital.

Does that logic add up ?

https://invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=q1CrvY_of_8

>>468469
whenever you see someone making a statement like
>hurr durr china has a financial sector just like the US
without quoting numbers, regulations, policy, or literally anything besides their word, don't waste your time, they are arguing in bad faith. the financial sector represented 20% of the american gdp (5.1 t. usd out of 25.4 t.), or ~2 times the gdp of the manufacturing sector in 2022 according to official estimates. the financial sector in china for the same period represented only around 7% of the chinese gdp (1.32 t. out of 18.3 t.) while the manufacturing sector represented around 40%
just ask for numbers and data and see how their arguments crumble away
http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/202201/t20220119_1826672.html

>>468655
>shift it's capital composition towards productive capital
capital isn't playdough. there won't be a shift: a large chunk of capital will just be destroyed if the dollar loses it's global currency status

>>468693
thanks
quality answer

>>467205

So are borders, money, and words - even "fake," here. What's it mean? It's gibberish. Just a bunch of chicken scratch imbued with arbitrary meaning, unless there's some reason to imbue it with meaning, some usefulness.

>>467214
And so is your manhood

>>467205
"fake" and "abstraction" are two different things and something being an abstraction doesn't inherently make it bad or not useful.

>>467221
Comrade dk just reupped and is ready to enlighten us

Socialism can unironically be somewhat monarchic.

have visited last year
here we go
>trashy neighborhoods, i mean lots of actual random trash
>social climate is that suspicion/distrust(extra burger toppings)
>Dogs wander the streets
>hipsters(gentrification)
>females usually are snobby cunts, also so many dykes
>residents are especially self centered
>chicano cringe pride
>globohomo condensed into a city
>cracked sidewalks, shitty roads
>streets are shit
>part of car culture is to ignore ambulances and not pull to the side
>excessive circle jerking among the labor aristocracy(its a union town)

anyway Mao Mao, Pol Pot, and Franny Franco were spot on about cities

>what is deindustrialization
>what is neoliberalism
<muh bureaucrats
<muh eye cue
Leftoids and cryptofash proving once again that they share the same quality of being historically illiterate

>>468657
>cryptofash
woot is dis

>>468657
Don't you have coffee to pour?

>>468662
probably busy having anal with a goat fish

Are you the sword guy ?

OP stop being a one0ff faggot and post more

>>468405
Hate to break it to you, but traditional landlords are extinct outside of latam. Housing landlords, economically speaking, are akin to any other small business tyrant petty bourgoise.
>produces commodity from an owned real estate site (maintained shelter from empty housing)
>has to do work to maintain commodity (repairs, bills, etc.)
>monopolizes and hires proles to do this labour
>monopolization fucks over consumers who get shitty commodity (lead poisoned, under-maintained housing)

>>468628
No one is saying they aren't petty bourgeoisie, but, I think they are worse, like, as people. At least busniess owners operate something useful for society and have some kind of push back IE their labor force but I have literally never met a landlord that wasn't a complete POS and they don't even operate anything useful. They just take what already exists and exploits the labor of some one souly through the ownership of it; Something people require for survival no less. If we did this with food there would be riots.

>>467937
I'd honestly not be surprised if it's some white dude trolling

>>468631
no worker wears a suit of their own volition, it's literally a slur for a boss, manager etc.

it's like worker wearing a tophat - ridiculous

Here's the take from the Geopolitical Economy Report

https://invidious.sethforprivacy.com/watch?v=kseAIrInKcM

>>468602
about a 2/10 compared to based De Gaulle

>>468600
>he's actually a Multipolarista
It adds up actually

<Pootin raises the retirement age and russian cucks swallow it.
<Macron tries to do the same as his fellow multipolarista but gets massive riots and strikes.
I think Macron should blitzkrieg Germany next because Alsace-Lorraine needs national self-determination.

and yes, I know that Alsace-Lorraine is part of modern day France..

>>468521
Well, multi means more than one, so I guess a bipolar US-China Imperial redivision of the globe with new-era Tito-esque fence sitters is multipolar as well!

I mean he’s not completely converted. He still has an obsession with the middle class

I love reading pieces like this by actual rightoids who can fucking READ because it's really an interesting insight into how at least the intellectual thought processes of the other side.
Something I see the same with this author, and rightoid figures like say Hitchens is that they sound reasonable for the most part, but then become completely fucking blinded by their dumb preconcieved notions and moral/romantic views of the Middle Class, Capitalism etc
It always boils down to "Capitalism is actually good, but bad faith actors like cosmopolitian international capitalists are bad because they're not nationalistic so don't have loyalty". This is ridiculous, the reality is Marx was always right he just saw through the romanticsed views and saw the cold reality of Capitalist realism. These aren't bad faith actors, they're the most viciously successful element of the Capitalist class who Capitalism rewards.
The Marxist view isn't that Capitalists are bad people, they're just agents of capital. How can Marxism view Capitalists as bad people when Engels himself was a Capitalist elite? Again the Rightoid mind can't seem to seperate systematic logic from moralism. They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
I definitely get the view that the most intellectual rightoids, seem to be massive romantics and moralfags and this leads them to having utterly childish, "splitting" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology) ) views when confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism.

Also "Waah if Socialism is correct, why did the USSR collapse" uhh because the USSR was ruled by shitheads and Radlibs? Because the Materialist development for a transition to Socialism has not yet been achieved? (Unlike what this article claims (can be chocked up to Engels overeagerness), Marx seemed to imply that Socialism was literally hundreds of years away)

>>468607
>They know Capitalist business people and they're good friends and very nice, polite people, so they're not bad or evil. It doesn't matter if they're bad or good or nice or rude, all that matters is the role they play within the Capitalist machine.
This lacks basic common sense. Any successful communist party understood the personal quality of people of of paramount importance. I feel really bad for you if you can't distinguish between decent and shit people, and constantly fall back on, 'Well they're a prole so we're on the same side.' basically a prey mentality
>confronted with the overwhelming truth of Scientific Marxism
Let's ignore the cultish verbiage for a moment. The hallmark of scientific knowledge is the ability to manipulate and change that which is the object of study. By this very definition, considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.

>>468608
A prole can be an asshole, but he still has the same class relations and values than I do. I don't have to like people to stick up for them. I understand that personality disorders like BPD and ASPD exist and they SHOULD be kept away from movements and from power. But those are the exceptions rather than the rule, a decent system should be able to root out these types anyway.
I know plenty of Business people, they're "good" people, they polite, kind, do a lot of community stuff, blah blah, this doesn't stop the role they play in the Capitalist system, they are class enemies and when the moment of truth arises, the reality is, these people will most likely side with the forces of reaction.

>considering the abysmal track record of western Marxists at having any solid impact on changing society, it's safe to say that western Marxism isn't scientific.

Western Marxism basically doesn't exist outside of Cockshott and a few other fringe autists who are treated as "red brown strasserites" by Baizuo. This doesn't disprove Marxism, all it debunks is Western "Leftists" from adhering to Scientific Socialist methods. Quickest way to see if a Baizuo is a Leftist, ask him to do a Materialist reading of Gender and explain how can they accept Transwomen are Women?

>>468458
relevant video (with dogshit audio)

>>468577
it looks like she got gangbanged by the cookie monster and elmo

>>468578
Even with the paint she's an 8

>>468578
even with the paint she looks like a taint

>>468580
Don't say things like that about her, she's very pretty.

>>468581
white knights belong @org gtfo