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Firstly, let me state that I am aware that in *some way* all forms of American socialism will be "anti American" in that it advocates for the removal of the current system, just as all (or most) forms of socialism do. Even demsocs believe that the system under which we currently operate is wrong and must be changed in some way. But American leftists in particular have this very, very anti-American sentiment. And I get it. I hate America too. And the USA is, of course, a colonial state that engaged in genocide. But is it truly beyond redemption?

Moreover, I have to wonder, is it truly expedient to tell people (or at least to imply by our own words and actions) that they have to hate the very *idea* of a united America? I do not necessarily support the ACP, but this is probably why people do. So-called MAGA communism is appealing to many particularly because it lacks this anti-American sentiment.

To be clear, I am anti-America in one sense. I believe that the USA is a genocidal empire, and a force for evil in the world. But in the sense that America must be entirely dissolved, I am not. I do not believe that. Many of the criticism levelled against the USA could have been made against China or Russia. But these were not dissolved; they were simply made into communist versions of themselves. I find America's problem to be capitalism, not the mere existence of a united American nation.
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>>489295
Insane how Jackson went from commenting on TYT drama to speaking in person for Ansar Allah to millions. And at such a young age. I can't think of a more impressive online personality.
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>>489386
Has always felt like some kind of astroturfing operation to me.
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Wanna know a secret?
Most political ideologies have anti American sentiment.

Rightists hate America for allowing secularism and female autonomy.

Atheists hate America for showing Judeo Christian religiopolitical bias.

Anarchists hate America for having a sturdy state.

Authoritarians hate America for advocating individualism.
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>>489393
Sounds like America might be the problem. We need a post-American ideology.
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>>489393
Sounds a bit like a more sophisticated version of Doubleyou's
<they hate us for our freedoms

>>489394
i'm going to make a wild guess that anti-American sentiment isn't really all that ideological. It's more likely about the big empire dropping bombs, doing regime-change and economic warfare.


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Denmark summons US ambassador over Greenland spying report
According to the newspaper, US spy agencies were told to focus efforts on the semi-autonomous country's independence movement, and American goals to extract mineral resources there. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard accused the Journal of attempts to "undermine" President Trump "by politicizing and leaking classified information".
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0eley5gy8wo

Thousands of households in Berlin without water for hours after burst water main
A burst water main caused massive restrictions to the water supply in large parts of Berlin, Germany on the night of Wednesday, April 30. This incident once again highlights the ailing infrastructure in the German capital and the impact of decades of cutbacks by every government of that state.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/05/07/7aba-m07.html

Did Lammy ‘mislead Parliament and the public’ on arms sales to Israel?
BRITISH firms have exported over 160,000 military items to Israel since October 2023, a new report revealed today. Details of the shipments suggest Foreign Secretary David Lammy could have misled Parliament when he claimed exports were ”defensive in nature.”
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/did-lammy-mislead-parliament-and-public-arms-sales-israel

Syria’s al-Sharaa confirms indirect talks with Israel amid soaring tensions
“There are indirect talks with Israel through mediators to calm and attempt to absorb the situation so that it does not reach a level that both sides lose control over,” al-Sharaa said, reiterating blame on Israel over what he described as its “random interventions” in Syria.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/7/syrias-al-sharaa-confirms-indirect-talks-with-israel-amid-soaring-tensions
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US charges NY man with hate crimes over Columbia protests
Bazrouk's case appears to be the first time the DOJ has brought federal hate crime charges related to the recent Columbia protests. A DOJ spokesperson could not confirm that information. The assaults allegedly all took place in Manhattan, at an April 2024 protest outside the New York Stock Exchange, a December 2024 protest outside Columbia University, and a January 2025 protest near Gramercy Park.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-charges-ny-man-with-hate-crimes-over-columbia-protests-2025-05-08/

Pro-Palestinian protesters take over room in library at Columbia; dozens in custody
A spokesperson for the university said they were dealing with a disruption in Reading Room 301 of Butler Library after demonstrators entered around 3:15 p.m. Acting President Claire Shipman said the individuals have still refused to identify themselves and leave the building, and says the university has "requested the presence of the NYPD" to assist in securing the building.
https://abc7ny.com/post/columbia-protest-pro-palestinian-protesters-disrupt-university-no-word-arrests/16350773/

US court says student activist Rumeysa Ozturk must be sent to Vermont
That ruling marked a rejection of a Trump administration appeal to delay the transfer and keep Ozturk in Louisiana, where she has been held in an immigration detention centre since late March. … Separately, in Newark, New Jersey, a federal judge ordered the Trump administration to deliver specifics about its rationale for describing Khalil, a leader in Columbia University’s student protests, as a threat to US foreign policy.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/7/us-court-says-student-activist-rumeysa-ozturk-must-be-sent-to-vermont
https://archive.ph/dItsg

Republicans to Pay for Trump Tax CPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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The United States Has Overused Its Sanctions Weapon Review of Chokepoints: How the Global Economy Became a Weapon of War by Edward Fishman (Elliott & Thompson, 2025)
Today we are accustomed to the use of economic sanctions as central tools of foreign policy. Many people may be surprised to discover, however, that this is actually a rather recent development. Sanctions used to be akin to a slap on the wrist — they would be used to target foreign leaders and their inner circles, making it harder for them to moor their yachts in the Mediterranean or purchase mansions in London. Now, of course, sanctions are among states’ most powerful weapons for waging economic warfare. In a new book, Chokepoints: How the Global Economy Became a Weapon of War, Edward Fishman describes how sanctions have been transformed over the past several decades. Fishman has worked in the State Department, the Department of Defense, and the Treasury, where he spent several years in the Terrorism and Financial Intelligence team designing sanctions on states like Iran. Chokepoints is accordingly an insider’s account of how the United States developed an armory of powerful sanctions based on its control over the world’s financial system — and how the overuse of these tools ended up undermining their effectiveness, ultimately compromising US hegemony itself.
https://jacobin.com/2025/05/us-foreign-policy-sanctions-weapon

Celebrate VE Day, and remember the lessons of the anti-fascist war
POLITICIANS use Victory in Europe Day, the anniversary of Nazi Germany’s surrender, as an excuse for militarist bombast. We must not let this pass. May 8 1945 marks the 80th anniversary of the victory over fascism. Communist Party of Great Britain leader Harry Pollitt called it “the greatest victory of all time.” What may have begun as an inter-imperialist war had become by 1945 a people’s war, mobilising the whole working class in the effort to defeat the most murderous regime in history, Nazi Germany. It was an internationalist war, the heroism of the armies that fought the Nazis equalled by that of the partisans and resistance fighters who fought and died across occupied Europe. The anti-fascist coalition gave birth to the United Nations — to join which, originally, countries needed to declare war on Nazi Germany — and,Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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India fires missiles across the frontier with Pakistan, killing at least 1 child, officials say
India fired missiles across the border into Pakistani-controlled territory in at least three locations early Wednesday, killing at a child and wounding two other people, Pakistani security officials said. India said it was striking infrastructure used by militants.
https://apnews.com/article/pakistan-india-missiles-border-tensions-21a2859557179f2b32d6b8d5628ac853

India advances Kashmir hydro projects after suspending pact with Pakistan, document shows
India has advanced the start date of four under-construction hydropower projects in the Kashmir region by months after suspending a water-sharing treaty with Pakistan that had slowed progress, according to an industry source and a government document.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/india-advances-kashmir-hydro-projects-after-suspending-pact-with-pakistan-2025-05-06/

Gateway to Corruption: Cambodia’s Education-Crime Nexus
Some private educational institutions have established ties to corrupt tycoons and crime-linked entities, while the public system is reliant on philanthropy – often from those very same sources.
https://thediplomat.com/2025/05/gateway-to-corruption-cambodias-education-crime-nexus/
https://archive.ph/rGOKm

US, Yemen's Houthis agree ceasefire brokered by Oman
The United States has agreed to end its conflict with Yemen's Houthis in an Oman-brokered ceasefire pact announced on Tuesday, despite the Iran-backed group vowing to continue its attacks on Israel. In a statement posted on social media, Omani Foreign Minister Badr Albusaidi said both sides had agreed to stop targeting each other.
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Episode 456: Multilevel Marketing Madness(TrueAnon)
Bridget Read joins us to discuss her new book Little Bosses Everywhere .We talk through the post-2020 explosion of MLMs, the specifically American history of pyramid schemes, guru charisma, dark accounting magick, and more.
https://soundcloud.com/trueanonpod/multilevel-marketing-madness

Communist Party of Pakistan: Down with chauvinism and war hysteria, long live proletarian internationalism
The escalating hostilities between India and Pakistan deliberately intensified to evoke war hysteria and precipitate a potential military confrontation are profoundly detrimental to the interests of the peace-seeking masses in both nations. The Communist Party of Pakistan registers its deep apprehension regarding this deteriorating situation. In a communiqué issued by the Central Committee, the Party unequivocally condemns the recent act of terrorism in Pahalgam, in which innocent tourists were brutally slain. The statement asserts that stoking bellicose sentiments and transforming tensions into armed conflict would be catastrophic for both states. War begets nothing but ruin. For Pakistan, already ensnared in a debt-ravaged economy and subsisting on loans from the IMF and other predatory financial institutions, the consequences would be even more devastating.
https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/05/communist-party-of-pakistan-down-with-chauvinism-and-war-hysteria-long-live-proletarian-internationalism.html

The RIAA's Full Frontal Assault on Archive.org
They're launching a full-frontal assault on Archive.org. The record company—well, technically the RIAA, the Recording Industry Association of America—is behind it. They’re suing Archive.org for $700 million. Nearly a billion dollars.
"The finest works of art are precious, among other reasons, because they make it possible for us to know, if only imperfectly and for a little while, what it actually feels like to think subtly and feel nobly." —Aldous Huxley
Why? Because Archive.org digitized and is now hosting a bunch of 78 RPM records from thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Whelp, first the book publishers attempted to extract their pound of flesh from archive.org. Sadly not enough people paid attention and the precedent was set. Now come the other hordes of idea monopolists to try and undo the last 30 years of computing.
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>>489352
Why didn't Vietnam leave behind a communist Cambodia?
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>>489366
Probably for the same reason Vietnam isn't communist today.
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>>489354
>They’re suing Archive.org for $700 million. Nearly a billion dollars.
Yeah those loony damage-claims prove they're clearly making it up as they go along. We have to conclude it's just a type of mafia that has hacked the legal system for an extortion racket.

>But the record companies don’t care. They want Archive.org gone. Why? Because corporations crave absolute control over the past, over the narrative, over what people can see, learn, and hear. Control equals profit. If the only music you're allowed to access is locked behind a paywall—or limited to the corporate-approved "classics" from 1980 onwards—they win.

You are not wrong about their intentions. But consider that the Internet Archive is an attempt at coexisting. They don't necessarily win, by making coexistence impossible.

>>489365
>Now come the other hordes of idea monopolists to try and undo the last 30 years of computing.
This struggle has been going on for millennia, and we keep getting our Libraries burned down. We keep inventing new ways to store and distribute information and they keep destroying it. The Internet has come very close to solving the problem, but maybe there's still something we need to figure out.


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 No.489297[Reply]>>489360

Why does it seem like support for Georgism disappeared suddenly in the middle of the 20th century? George's book Progress and Poverty was one of the most popular books of the 19th century and provided momentum for the Progressive Era. It seems like it kind of dropped off the face of the Earth after WWII. The last reference I can find to Georgism is Aldous Huxley's Brave New World Revisited in 1958, but after that it's like it poofed completely out of existence. Was it the cold war shifting the focus of the capitalist defense force to anti-communism? Was Georgism just a fad, propped up artificially as a bulwark against Marxists? Were Georgists just completely superceded by Marxists by that time? What happened?
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>>489323
Where does this say that though?
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>>489317
>Shitlib Woke Parties (US)
Pretty harsh anon.
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>>489297
it died with Nehru
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>>489360
… Elaborate?


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In Mississippi, six former sheriff's deputies have been sentenced to between 10 and 40 years in prison for raiding a home and torturing, shooting and sexually abusing two Black men, Michael Jenkins and Eddie Parker, in January 2023. The six former deputies, all of whom are white, called themselves the "Goon Squad" and have been linked to at least four violent attacks on Black men since 2019. Two of the men attacked and tortured by the group subsequently died. To discuss the case and the verdict, we're joined by Eddie Parker and attorneys Malik Shabazz and Trent Walker. "Never have we seen this many police officers sentenced to this kind of time in one week," says Shabazz, who calls the verdict "historic." Jenkins, Parker and Shabazz are currently suing the Rankin County Sheriff's Department over its track record of civil rights violations and racist targeting of Black residents.

After this and the secret mass grave recently found behind the police station near Jackson, what's next for Mississippi?
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>>479962
I believe that court case is still ongoing.
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>goon squad
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>>479973
maybe they were self-aware on some level ?
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>>479974
Probably, yes.
That's a weird habit of certain kinds of tremendously evil people. Like the Ku Klux Klan with the whole dressing as ghosts and burning crosses thing, La Cagoule in France, the Romanian Iron Guard, Haiti's Tonton Macoute, etc.
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Officials in a Mississippi county settle lawsuit filed by 2 Black men tortured by deputies
Rankin County officials announced last week that they had settled a lawsuit filed by Michael Jenkins and Eddie Parker—who were brutalized by sheriff’s deputies in 2023—for $2.5 million.
https://apnews.com/us-news/mississippi-michael-jenkins-eddie-terrell-parker-lawsuits-law-enforcement-7173cee79fcbcbd89216a6fc03088378


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Yemen's Houthis announce campaign targeting Israeli airports
Yemen's Houthi rebels said late on Sunday they would impose a "comprehensive" aerial blockade on Israel by repeatedly targeting its airports, in response to Israel expanding its operations in Gaza.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/yemens-houthis-announce-campaign-targeting-israeli-airports-2025-05-05/

'We want them to die alone': What is Israel's Gideon's Chariots plan for Gaza?
Israel has said that it will give Hamas until the end of US President Donald Trump's trip to the Middle East, which is 10 days from now, or "Operation ‘Gideon’s Chariots’ will begin with great force and will not end until all its objectives are achieved".
https://www.newarab.com/news/what-israels-gideons-chariots-plan-gaza

Uganda’s military chief says holding opposition activist ‘in my basement’
In a social media post late on Thursday, Ugandan General Muhoozi Kainerugaba said Mutwe had been captured “like a grasshopper”. “He is in my basement … You are next!” Kainerugaba wrote on X in response to a post by Wine saying that Mutwe had been abducted. Kainerugaba, who is known for his incendiary social media posts, also alluded to Mutwe being tortured, saying he had beaten him and shaved his head.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/2/ugandas-military-chief-says-holding-opposition-activist-in-my-basement
https://archive.ph/tkUPV

Rwanda Confirms Talks With Trump Administration to Take Deported Migrants
In 2022, Rwanda agreed to take in some people seeking asylum in the United Kingdom while their claims were being processed. However, the scheme was shelved amid legal and human rights concerns following the return to power of the center-left Labour Party. Rwanda is still seeking to collect £50 million ($66.4 million) from Britain despite the canceled deaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Bill that would punish Americans boycotting Israel pulled from US Congress
An anti-boycott, divestment and sanctions bill scheduled for a vote on Monday has been pulled from the US Congress after severe backlash from several “America First” Republican lawmakers and social media podcasters.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/bill-that-would-punish-americans-boycotting-israel-pull-us-congress

Trump issues executive order requiring English proficiency for truckers, escalating attacks on immigrant workers
The order, framed by the White House and Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy as a “commonsense safety requirement” and an effort to “protect America’s truck drivers, drivers, passengers, and others,” is nothing of the sort. It is a discriminatory measure that weaponizes a decades-old regulation against immigrant workers, exacerbating an existing labor shortage and ignoring the real, pressing safety issues plaguing the trucking industry.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/05/05/truc-m05.html

Democratic-led states sue to prevent Trump from gutting health agencies
A group of Democratic-led states filed a lawsuit on Monday to challenge the Trump administration's decision to gut the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services by firing 10,000 of its employees and shuttering entire agencies within the department.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democratic-led-states-sue-prevent-trump-gutting-health-agencies-2025-05-05/

Michigan drops charges against pro-Palestinian campus protesters
Attorney General Dana Nessel said she believed the cases were strong but suggested her office was worn down by criticism and other factors. She noted that a judge in Washtenaw County still hadn’t decided whether to send the cases to a trial court despite multiple hearings.
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Three tasks we face in confronting an empowered Reform UK
BRITAIN is now confronted with a Reform UK threat of a new scale and character. The party is no longer fringe, but a powerful force, controlling 10 councils and two elected mayoralties outright. The polls suggest it can make serious gains in Scotland and Wales as well. It has already indicated how it will use its new powers. Within a day Nigel Farage and Richard Tice were threatening refugees (saying Reform councils would seek to stop accommodating them, and suggesting they be moved out of buildings and into tents) and local government workers. In the latter case the attack concerned both terms and conditions and jobs relating to concepts Reform doesn’t believe in, from climate change to equalities. The left faces three essential tasks.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/three-tasks-we-face-confronting-empowered-reform-uk

How Hamas Sees the Current Moment: An Exclusive Interview With Osama Hamdan
In an exclusive interview with Drop Site News, a senior Hamas official said that the movement will not capitulate to any demands from Israel or the U.S. to lay down its weapons and vowed that Hamas will reject any temporary ceasefire deal that does not include a clear path to a total Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and an end to the genocide. “No need for a short-term ceasefire,” said Osama Hamdan, one of the longest serving senior officials within Hamas. “What the Israelis are offering is: We will give you a ceasefire for a short while and then we will come back to kill you again. So what's the idea of giving you food for 12, 40 days, two weeks or three weeks, and then coming back to kill you? It means that you endorse the genocide and you accept that for your own people.”
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/osama-hamdan-hamas-gaza-israel-trump

Bureaucratic Mishaps Demonstrate Undemocratic Nature of Elections Under Capitalism.
Gabriela Santiango-Romero, a current Detroit city council person representing a largely Latinx and immigrant district, has been disqualified from running in the upcoming elections in November. According to the Wayne CoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>489314
>Undemocratic Nature of Elections Under Capitalism
Elections won't be any more democratic under socialism. You can throw out all the other machinations of capitalist rule but as long as you keep their oligarchic institution of governance you're going to get an oligarchy under socialism.
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>>489312
>>489313
Thanks comrade anon, your efforts are appreciated as always.


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Where the hell is the Chinese version of a color revolution in the US? Why haven't socialist states like the USSR persued regime change and propaganda in the USA? Why aren't hackers working 24/7 trying to get compromising material on US officials?

America first of all can't do it alone. We fucking need help. And second, propaganda and sending agents to orgamize against the capitalist government is way more cost effective than arming up to the teeth (which these states are already doing).
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>>489300
Well it might be lasers but there are other forms of suitable energy too. I didn't know "directed energy" was already a marketing buzzword. I thought i was just using a non-specific term. I'm feeling a bit perplexed, all the existing energy weapons are sort of just technology tests, why would they need marketing before they have wares to sell ?

>>489301
You are right that it's still possible to over-saturate these, but you can't really deplete any interceptor ammunition. I do think that it eventually be cheaper to scale generators and emitter arrays than missile batteries.

I don't know why you think that intercepting automatically means detonating the warhead.
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>>489302
>I don't know why you think that intercepting automatically means detonating the warhead.
That's not necessarily my point. An adversary on the other side of the planet might intentionally detonate some of their warheads in the upper atmosphere to generate an EMP and knock out ground infrastructure if they have a feeling that a lot of their warheads might get intercepted anyway. The range of EMPs is easy to underestimate and might end up harming the adversary too (so would nuclear winter), but anything goes in MAD.
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>>489303
>An adversary on the other side of the planet might intentionally detonate some of their warheads in the upper atmosphere to generate an EMP and knock out ground infrastructure if they have a feeling that a lot of their warheads might get intercepted anyway.
I can't answer this off the top of my head. I'm not sure what the effective range of an EMP would be when knocking out a energy-weapon-array. Not sure how to estimate that given the broad range of possible designs for energy-weapon-arrays.

But you bring up a valid point.
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>>489305
Self-contained military installations typically have shielding to protect against EMPs. It's the entire rest of the civilian infrastructure that doesn't because it's impractical. The target of an EMP wouldn't be a hypothetical laser/maser array likely shielded against this sort of thing, it would be civilians just like targeting a city with a nuke is.
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>>489306
So what you are getting at, is that you think intercepting nukes is not worth it because there's always EMPs. Not sure if I agree with that.


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Retards here have been claiming an imminent stock market crash for almost 10 years straight.

But it looks like this time we might actually get a crash this time because the Republicans seem to like crashing the market in their second terms.

And it does seem like Trump and his advisors are trying to crash the market.

Either that or Trump's economic advisors are just stupid.
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>>488687
Such a pretty color
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How long will MAGAtards keep defending this imbecile?
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>>488700
Some people will do it forever.
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Due Dissidence: US Ports GOING EMPTY As Tariff Effects HIT HOME


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>LibRight: "Corporate tyranny is better"
>AuthLeft: "State tyranny is better"
>LibLeft: "Mob tyranny is better"
>AuthRight: "All of the above are great"
>centrists: "All tyranny should be done in moderation"
Why do we have to choose? Can't we have individualism without corporate tyranny, socialism without state tyranny and democracy without mob tyranny? Why do we always have to sell our liberty to some institution? Why can't we have all the good stuff without all the bad stuff? Have modern ancoms forgotten their individualist roots? Have they forgotten about Bakunin, Goldman and Malatesta? What kind of libertarianism is this if you have to obey the corporations or the majority?

Look, our Matrix server already has elements of consensus democracy, it can work. The more we rebel and split the closer we get to anarchism. So I don't understand why we always sacrifice one freedom for another in politics (except the AuthRight bootlickers, they're obsessed with order and control).
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>>489227
>If ancient states in Egypt and West Asia predate capitalist relations, that doesn’t make them “antagonistic” to capital
No, it's the fact that rulers in Egypt and middle eastern states regularly went after the finance capital class with debt amnesty proclamations. That's what made them antagonistic to capital. Protecting their population from losing everything including their freedom to the accumulation of creditors. This tradition lasted over a thousand years until the Bronze Age collapse, far longer than capitalism has even been around today.
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>>489234
>You're a reactionary, got it.
Please, spare me these hissy fits. This word is used by radlibs just as often in a way that's just as meaningless.
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>>489235
There was no “finance capitalist class” in Bronze Age Egypt or Mesopotamia. Only temple/palace creditors and local merchants. Jubilee laws managed primitive accumulation under tributary/slave regimes, preserving free peasants for taxes, labor, and military service.

Debt amnesties were state tools to stabilize class relations, not evidence of states “against capital.” Capitalist finance relies on interest‑bearing money and abstract capital features absent until the late medieval and early modern periods.

Ancient debt relief regulated class exploitation; it didn’t oppose or negate capital in the modern sense.
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>>489239
>Capitalist finance relies on interest‑bearing money and abstract capital features absent until the late medieval and early modern periods.
You seem to be engaging in some very fine pedantry here. If by "capitalist finance" you mean "finance for industrial capital", then fine, OK, that particular thing is obviously exclusive to the economic system that displaced feudalism and which we are currently living through. "Finance capital" on the other hand is simply any time a loan is given with interest. It predates industrial capital (the form of capital that actually established capitalism) by several thousand years and in fact it even predates the invention of currency. Throughout the history of civilization there has existed both a class of people whose primary occupation is living off rent and a class of people who needed to take out loans from them to get by. The word class is appropriate here because their interests often worked together and in opposition to other classes in society. They didn't need to wait until capitalism to invent themselves or their respective class conflicts.

You should read Michael Hudson's work on this subject, while there are some rulers who simply wanted to stabilize their society by freeing people from debt bondage, there are also some pretty clear-cut instances of both ancient and classical/medieval rulers going to war against the creditor class because they saw them as a threat to their own rule.
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>>489241
There is a distinct qualitative difference between pre-capitalist usury and modern finance capital, it's not pedantry.

His work seems interesting but he's a reformist.


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One Year of Genocide

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Updates since the start of the last thread:
The (largely civilian) Palestinian death toll has now passed 61,000. Excess deaths have been estimated by The Lancet to plausibly be upwards of 186,000.

In early January 2025, Israel agreed to a ceasefire in Gaza and a prisoner exchange. Despite all of the killing, Hamas's military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, appears to have largely replenished its numbers, and threw parades celebrating the exchange. The ceasefire is on terms Hamas had already agreed to in May 2024.

Following Hezbollah strikes on Tel Aviv, a ceasefire in Lebanon was agreed to on November 27th. Israel proceeded to violate this ceasefire more than 600 times, and has refused to leave the country at the agreed-upon 60 day deadline, prompting unarmed civilians to stage protests and drive them out of parts of south Lebanon.

Lebanese Army leader Joseph Aoun was elected president of Lebanon.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by US-backed al-Qaeda operatives. Israel proceeded to steal more land from Syria and launched a massive bombing campaign on Syria and Syria's arsenal without any resistance.

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Activist ship with 30 people on board sinking after drone attack near Malta

Earlier, we reported that an Israeli military drone has reportedly attacked a vessel with the Freedom Flotilla activist group as it set off to break Israel’s Gaza blockade and deliver aid to the besieged enclave.

Yasemin Acar, a media officer with the group, has now told CNN there is a “hole in the vessel” and the “ship is sinking”.

Acar said the ship was attacked off the coast of Malta in international waters, and it is now anchored 17km (10.5 miles) from the country. The crew has “sent out SOS calls to the surrounding countries” and a “small boat” from Cyprus has been sent to help, she added.

“We have 30 international human rights activists on that vessel at this very moment, on a vessel that is sinking,” said Acar.

Posting on X, the group said a drone attacked the ship twice at 00:23 Maltese time on Friday morning (22:23 GMT on Thursday night), breaching the hull and causing a fire to break out on board.

Israeli missile strike on children’s playground leaves 8-year-old paralysed

Eight-year-old Palestinian girl, Rehab, was on a playground swing in Gaza when an Israeli missile attack left half her body paralysed.
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>>489190
What did they think was going to happen sailing unarmed to Israel, a country committing genocide?
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>>489194
Freedom Flotilla activists have been attacked by Israel before. They knew what they were getting into.
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